The whole story about the commercial by KCR
ka-kei wai
It seems like not a whole lot of people know what happened. What I post here
is what I heard from some friends of mine in Hong Kong. I don't know if it is
real or not but it's been the most popular topic among people in Hong Kong.
Also, looks like "60 Minutes Plus" (Not the one in the US) is going to talk
about it, which makes it more serious. And here is what happened :
There was a commercial by KCR in which 7 children were playing in a forrest.
Those children are all from Beijing. But according to the KCR, there are
supposed to be only 6 children. Thats means there is an extra child, who until
now, nobody knows who he is. And a lot of people said that the extra child was
jumping and with blood flowing out of his mouth during the whold commercial.
The more terrible thing is the 2 of the 6 children are dead now and the other
4 missing but it seems like no one knows how they died. Since they are in
Beijing, it's tough to investigate on the incident.
What I heard is that that the "60 Minutes Plus" on the Peral is going to show
the commercial again (It's been stopped) using slow motion. But I don't know
the exact date.
And that's all I know. If any of you have more information on it, please let
me know or post it here. Thanks.
- Paul.
Smart Handsome Chas
My friend in Hong Kong told me that the seventh child was dead before the
commercial was taking. That means.....
Chas.
Leo WaiChung So
>
> There was a commercial by KCR in which 7 children were playing in a forrest.
> Those children are all from Beijing. But according to the KCR, there are
> supposed to be only 6 children. Thats means there is an extra child, who until
> now, nobody knows who he is. And a lot of people said that the extra child was
> jumping and with blood flowing out of his mouth during the whold commercial.
> The more terrible thing is the 2 of the 6 children are dead now and the other
> 4 missing but it seems like no one knows how they died. Since they are in
> Beijing, it's tough to investigate on the incident.
>
no suitable local children in HK?
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the advertisement knew they had an extra kid on the comercial - which they
probably didn't pay (if they need to pay), anyway, that's wierd, please
inform us what happen after the pearl shows the slow motion
Fran
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This is news, news from HK. Is this better than discussion on some actresses?
>
Smart Handsome Chas
aired yesterday. They was no bleeding from that seventh kid. That all I know
about the show. Correct if I am wrong about it. Thanks.
Chas.
juy...@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu
So, is it really an extra child who should not be appeared in the ad? Could
you please provide us more information? Thanks!
Julia
P.S. I would also like what reaction does KCR has?
juy...@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu
to know
Sorry for the mistake.
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Smart Handsome Chas
As I said, that's all I know about the show. I think there was really an
extra kid appeared. I also want to know the whole story, therefore I sent
out mails to my friends in Hong Kong already. I'll post here if I have
something interesting or new to share with SCHKers. Thanks.
Chas.
Amos Yung
>In article <1992Nov9.1...@cis.ohio-state.edu> one writes:
>>
>> There was a commercial by KCR in which 7 children were playing in a forrest.
>> Those children are all from Beijing. But according to the KCR, there are
>> supposed to be only 6 children. Thats means there is an extra child, who until
>> now, nobody knows who he is. And a lot of people said that the extra child was
>> jumping and with blood flowing out of his mouth during the whold commercial.
>> The more terrible thing is the 2 of the 6 children are dead now and the other
>> 4 missing but it seems like no one knows how they died. Since they are in
>> Beijing, it's tough to investigate on the incident.
>>
> A silly question aside. Why are they all from Beijing? Are there
> no suitable local children in HK?
>
Another silly question. Is there any concrete newspaper/tv news reference
to this story? Or is this another one of those city legend?
> leo.
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Samson Luk
In a msg on <Nov 10 17:24>, Smart Handsome Chas of 6:700/1.300 writes:
SHC> which was aired yesterday. They was no bleeding from that
SHC> seventh kid. That all I know about the show. Correct if I am
FYI, ATV playback the film in slow motion tonight, 'bleeding' can indeed be seen from the 2nd kid's (a girl) mouth!!!
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C Ma
heard that it is the cover story. Go to chinatown and buy a copy if anyone
of you would like to read more informations.
Also, I heard that the *bleeding* kid was a girl because "she" is wearing a
dress, but her legs could not be seen clearly. Her parents said she was dead
before the ad was shot.
Can someone in HK kindly tell us what other magazine talked about this besides
Next Magazine?
Chibi
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Michael C. KWAN
What does KCR stand for ? Do you have more information about this
story ? I am really interested.
Thanks
Michael KWAN
C Ma
to mainland.
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>
> FYI, ATV playback the film in slow motion tonight, 'bleeding' can indeed be seen from the 2nd kid's (a girl) mouth!!!
>
> Regards
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so, the kid IS really bleeding, so everything is REAL??
BusterR!
Smart Handsome Chas
Com'on! One more guy here do not know what KCR is! Ahhhhh.............!
It stands for Kowloon Canton Railway. Take care.
Chas.
chuck kay hon
>>My friend in HK watched the TVB Pearl's show on KCR's commercial, which was
>>aired yesterday. They was no bleeding from that seventh kid. That all I know
I was told it really depended on people, some people could see it, some
couldn't. Some could see seven, but some could only see six, strange ???
It is a shame I haven't got the chance to watch the commercial, I am
interested to know how many I can see, 8-). Do you see six or seven ?
>>about the show. Correct if I am wrong about it. Thanks.
>>
>>Chas.
>>
>
>So, is it really an extra child who should not be appeared in the ad? Could
>you please provide us more information? Thanks!
yes, the audiences should only see 6.
>P.S. I would also like what reaction does KCR has?
they stop the ad.
Another piece of information, some people( one of them is called
Li Kui Ming, Li is his surname ) said they actually could see more
and more ghosts going to HK from mainland China, the reason was that the
Chines Government didn't allow people to carry out any funeral services to
the death, so the death couldn't sleep well ( if you believe in Bible) or
the death refused to leave this world ( if you believe in Buddisim ), that's
why they become a ghost and hanging around. Their suggestion is no matter
what religion the death committed, his/her relatives should do proper
funeral services to them so as to let them sleep peacefully or migrate to
next phase of life. Another suggestion from them is that if you can behave
yourself or you commit to one of the religions, you won't have much trouble
with these ghosts.
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[someone else wrote]
>>
>> FYI, ATV playback the film in slow motion tonight, 'bleeding' can indeed be seen from the 2nd kid's (a girl) mouth!!!
>>
> so, the kid IS really bleeding, so everything is REAL??
I know I shouldn't make a joke out of this... yet, with the advanced tech-
nology of today, I wouldn't be surprised if someone edited the video with
a computer... (like, morphing the girl into a... you know). Of course, I
doubt people would do that to gain publicity or what not. However, I
would now think twice before believing videos, you know...
> BusterR!
Just a thought. BTW, my friend (before hearing about the shocking news) told
me a while ago that the kids in that commercial look pale. He thought they
were sick or something... mm... perhaps he has "ying-yang" eyes??
Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: ab...@coos.dartmouth.edu
Ho Sun Pang
>
>Another piece of information, some people( one of them is called
>Li Kui Ming, Li is his surname ) said they actually could see more
>and more ghosts going to HK from mainland China, the reason was that the
>Chines Government didn't allow people to carry out any funeral services to
>the death, so the death couldn't sleep well ( if you believe in Bible) or
>the death refused to leave this world ( if you believe in Buddisim ), that's
>why they become a ghost and hanging around. Their suggestion is no matter
>what religion the death committed, his/her relatives should do proper
>funeral services to them so as to let them sleep peacefully or migrate to
>next phase of life. Another suggestion from them is that if you can behave
>yourself or you commit to one of the religions, you won't have much trouble
>with these ghosts.
>
Ha ha...
Ho Sun Pang
>
>I know I shouldn't make a joke out of this... yet, with the advanced tech-
>nology of today, I wouldn't be surprised if someone edited the video with
>a computer... (like, morphing the girl into a... you know).
>
Yep, that could be done trivially with a MacII.
>
>Just a thought. BTW, my friend (before hearing about the shocking news) told
>me a while ago that the kids in that commercial look pale. He thought they
>were sick or something... mm... perhaps he has "ying-yang" eyes??
>
I'd think about it this way: Many people may be subconciously influenced
by other people, esp. in these kind of freak stories. May be it's just a
not-so-common shadow and people may well taken as "bleeding", since they
"expect" to see something like that after all these stories.
Try this tonite: Shortly before you sleep, turn off all the lights and don't
let any direct light in your sight. Then think of something scary when you
see the very dark silhouettes of the objects in your room. Imagine them as
ghosts faces, bloody faces, chopped hands, macabre, etc. See what you get.
- Louis
Yau Chor Tung
> It seems like not a whole lot of people know what happened. What I post here
> is what I heard from some friends of mine in Hong Kong. I don't know if it is
> real or not but it's been the most popular topic among people in Hong Kong.
> Also, looks like "60 Minutes Plus" (Not the one in the US) is going to talk
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> about it, which makes it more serious. And here is what happened :
^^^^^^^^
A popular local magazine -the Next Magazine on 13/11 has told that it is also
a rumour. The "60 Minutes Plus" has nothing doing with this story.
> There was a commercial by KCR in which 7 children were playing in a forrest.
> Those children are all from Beijing. But according to the KCR, there are
> supposed to be only 6 children. Thats means there is an extra child, who until
> now, nobody knows who he is. And a lot of people said that the extra child was
> jumping and with blood flowing out of his mouth during the whold commercial.
From the same magazine: the reporter went to Beijing and found that none
of the children were dead. Moreover, in fact there were 10 children
in the commercial, but after the cutting, it seems there were only 6 or 7,
just because at a particlur time, only 6 are caught by the camera,
and another time 7.
> The more terrible thing is the 2 of the 6 children are dead now and the other
> 4 missing but it seems like no one knows how they died. Since they are in
> Beijing, it's tough to investigate on the incident.
It is like a joke more than a ghost story.
Yau Chor Tung
Andy Woo
Hello Samson!
Wednesday November 11 1992, Samson Luk writes to Smart Handsome Chas:
SHC>> which was aired yesterday. They was no bleeding from that
SHC>> seventh kid. That all I know about the show. Correct if I am
SL> FYI, ATV playback the film in slow motion tonight, 'bleeding' can indeed
SL> be seen from the 2nd kid's (a girl) mouth!!!
Yes, I also saw that! I am scared by that! But I felt strange that TVB
still insists that there is nothing special in the film. I felt disappointed
by the TVB this time, the programme is not as informative as ATV's!
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>As far as I know, this week's Next Magazine got something on this matter. I
>heard that it is the cover story. Go to chinatown and buy a copy if anyone
>of you would like to read more informations.
>
>Also, I heard that the *bleeding* kid was a girl because "she" is wearing a
>dress, but her legs could not be seen clearly. Her parents said she was dead
>before the ad was shot.
>
>Can someone in HK kindly tell us what other magazine talked about this besides
>Next Magazine?
i bet the whole thing was planned by the Next Magazine...
Chan Chun Kit Lionel
I also watched the ATV program (Hong Kong Chase Chase Chase). The so-called bleeding
is only a shadow below the mouth corner. Nothing special.
I don't believe this KCR rumour.
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Mary Kong
It is not surprising that a lot of us do not know what KCR is. I for one,
did not konw. That was because I left Hong Kong about 17 years ago.
cs225 student
But KCR has been there for about 100 years.
Richard
YAU Chor-tung
>In a msg on <Nov 10 17:24>, Smart Handsome Chas of 6:700/1.300 writes:
> SHC> which was aired yesterday. They was no bleeding from that
> SHC> seventh kid. That all I know about the show. Correct if I am
>FYI, ATV playback the film in slow motion tonight, 'bleeding' can indeed be seen from the 2nd kid's (a girl) mouth!!!
In fact there is no 'bleeding'. The so-called 'bleeding' is only a shading.
It is not red,but grey. And I think it is easily distinguished as a shading
rather than bleeding. It appear only in slow motion. In normal speed the
shading just lasts for a very short time.
Try it yourself, pick any one of your family vedio and play in slow motion,
you will see many of your family member bleeding too. It is natural to have
unclear image in slow motion.
Yau Chor Tung.
YAU Chor-tung
>>P.S. I would also like what reaction does KCR has?
>they stop the ad.
Not correct! The ad. has been stopped for quite a long time (several
months) before the ghost story is heard. And now the KCR has decided to
pay extra money to show the ad. again to stop the rumour. I saw it
yesterday.
If you want any company to lose some money, you can use the same trick and
spread rumour about their ad., etc. I think most people will believe.
This is natural.
>Another piece of information, some people( one of them is called
>Li Kui Ming, Li is his surname ) said they actually could see more
>and more ghosts going to HK from mainland China, the reason was that the
>Chines Government didn't allow people to carry out any funeral services to
>the death, so the death couldn't sleep well ( if you believe in Bible) or
>the death refused to leave this world ( if you believe in Buddisim ), that's
>why they become a ghost and hanging around. Their suggestion is no matter
>what religion the death committed, his/her relatives should do proper
>funeral services to them so as to let them sleep peacefully or migrate to
>next phase of life. Another suggestion from them is that if you can behave
>yourself or you commit to one of the religions, you won't have much trouble
>with these ghosts.
This guys has been famous after showing up on a serie of TVB programmes.
And he has conducted a film about misteries and has earned a lot of money.
However, the Next magazine has discussed the large amount of forgery in
his film. e.g. a child suffering from mental illness was said to be a
ghost (i.e. a ghost in the child) and was shown in the film. The boy's
mother knew this only after watching the film, and was very much upset by
the film. This guys has many inventions :- e.g. he invented the Radio-
Theory of Worshipping Gods :- every gods is a radio station, Juese is one,
Budda maybe another. Any everyone is tuned to receive the signals from a
particular station and there is no interference between stations!
I do feel sick about many of his invention and is sad that many people are
interested by them.
Yau Chor Tung.
Downtown boy
>
>Another piece of information, some people( one of them is called
>Li Kui Ming, Li is his surname ) said they actually could see more
>and more ghosts going to HK from mainland China, the reason was that the
I cannot but cracked up reading this. Do they go to HK with a purpose?
Travelling, getting a job, settling down or what? This is getting
funnier than ever.
Mary Kong
Even if the KCR has been opened for 100 years, I doubt I would remember it since
I was only 5 years old.
George Lo
>
>
>did not konw. That was because I left Hong Kong about 17 years ago.
KCR has existed for more than half a century.
The Big Color Wolf
But What if Mary Kong is EXACTLY 17 years old now?
I left Hong Kong 17 years ago also, but I go back there fairly often and
before someone enlightened me on KCR I could only associate it with the
Kowloon bus company. Now I know it stands for Kow-Guang Tit Lou.
Sincerely yours,
Julian CHANG
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Yiu Wan
>In article <15...@suns7.crosfield.co.uk> h...@crosfield.co.uk (chuck kay hon) writes:
>>
>>Another piece of information, some people( one of them is called
>>Li Kui Ming, Li is his surname ) said they actually could see more
>>and more ghosts going to HK from mainland China, the reason was that the
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I cannot but cracked up reading this. Do they go to HK with a purpose?
> Travelling, getting a job, settling down or what? This is getting
> funnier than ever.
too much kcr stuff.. I guess it is only a halloween joke , but
hong kong dudes like to hear this kind of stuff..
>>Chines Government didn't allow people to carry out any funeral services to
>>the death, so the death couldn't sleep well ( if you believe in Bible) or
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
pardon me: I dont know what u mean?!
btw, i am a christain..
oh. yeah.. ??? 8-);
>>why they become a ghost and hanging around. Their suggestion is no matter
>>what religion the death committed, his/her relatives should do proper
>>funeral services to them so as to let them sleep peacefully or migrate to
>>next phase of life. Another suggestion from them is that if you can behave
>>yourself or you commit to one of the religions, you won't have much trouble
>>with these ghosts.
>>
i don't know but I guess as 97's drawing near, people
like to think this kind of stuff.
yeah.. what they call it ?? "end of the world mentality"
hey, just my 2 cents. 8-)
hey, dudes, let's not waste the bandwidth and back to those
'normal' topics.. a
Steven
Winfred Fong
Richard, wake up. It doesn't matter how long the KCR has been in
business; it is rather how close are you to that environment. If
you think one should know an acronym because of its age, try these:
1. ACTS;
2. ACSE;
3. LLCP.
I feel very uneasy to read reply from people like you. Because
I left HK (my beloved) 16 years ago and didn't know what KCR
stands for, it doesn't give you any rights to mock at me.
I am not trying to blame/flame anyone here, I am simply requesting
mutual respect from people who use this international network
for communications purpose.
fred fong
juy...@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu
>In article <BxtpM...@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cs22...@dcl-nxt10.cso.uiuc writes:
>>
>>But KCR has been there for about 100 years.
>>
>>Richard
>
>Richard, wake up. It doesn't matter how long the KCR has been in
>business; it is rather how close are you to that environment. If
>you think one should know an acronym because of its age, try these:
> 1. ACTS;
Air Corps Tactical School
Acronyms have different meaning to different people. I don't think
Winfred has the same interpretation on ACTS as I have. I agree
that depends on the environment. BTW, I believe that most of my
friends in HK do not know that BTW is "By the way".
So, stop arguing on why people do not know "KCR". May be a list of
the acronyms should be put in the FAQ (an acronym here again) file.
Julia
Alvin W. Law
>heard that it is the cover story. Go to chinatown and buy a copy if anyone
>of you would like to read more informations.
>
>Also, I heard that the *bleeding* kid was a girl because "she" is wearing a
>dress, but her legs could not be seen clearly. Her parents said she was dead
>before the ad was shot.
>
>Can someone in HK kindly tell us what other magazine talked about this besides
>Next Magazine?
East Week (No. 3) also talked about this commercial. It's the Talk of
the Town in Hong Kong these days.
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This is just a suggestion but maybe people should just write out the whole name
once in the beginning of their posts and put the acronym next to it in
parentheses for those people who may not know the acronym. This deals with the
crux of the problem and it doesn't really take all that long to type out the
names. After that first time, then it can be assumed that the reader is
familiar with the term.
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>
> It is not surprising that a lot of us do not know what KCR is. I for
one,
> did not konw. That was because I left Hong Kong about 17 years ago.
>But KCR has been there for about 100 years.
Non, 82 years ONLY, It completed in 1911.
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