Seeing "The Joy Luck Club" in NYC on 10/9
Mary Y. Tsang
schkers in new york city and vicinity will get together for dinner,
movie("the joy luck club,") and probably discussion of vaious topics in schk
on the evening of sat., oct. 9th. if you are interested, please email me
before this thur. (9/30) afternoon. i will give you the details via email.
mary,
nyc
p.s. old timers and new members are welcome to join the gang.
John Ho
went to watch it ASAP. This is one serious movie, the
kind that should at least get an Oscar nomination. I highly
recommend it and I think all netters owe it to yourself if
you don't go see it. Currently, there is only one cinema in Dallas
that is showing but the cinema was FULL - this is not the mini-cinema
kind but a full size cinema. To my surprise, I found 98% of
the audiences were Caucasians and few Asians. I was skeptical
at first and wondering if the Caucasians will enjoy this movie
but the movie is done well, it crosses the cultural line and everybody
enjoyed it.
One thing I have to tell you ahead of time - bring a box of Kleenex. :)
There are TONS of emotions in this movie and it is VERY touching. Also,
there are tears everywhere and I am serious; the majority of the
audiences cried, female and male, young and adults - the man and woman
sitting besides me were crying with tears all over their faces.
My wife told me that women were crying inside the restroom in groups
after the movie. It is serious.
P.S. ADVICE: Guys, find some girls to watch it with you and
girls, don't go with guys. :)
--
// John Ho from Dallas, Texas, USA (jo...@jho.com)
Steven Leung
> The movie "Joy Luck Club" opened up in Dallas last Friday and I
> went to watch it ASAP. This is one serious movie, the
> kind that should at least get an Oscar nomination. I highly
> recommend it and I think all netters owe it to yourself if
> you don't go see it. Currently, there is only one cinema in Dallas
> that is showing but the cinema was FULL - this is not the mini-cinema
> kind but a full size cinema. To my surprise, I found 98% of
> the audiences were Caucasians and few Asians. I was skeptical
> at first and wondering if the Caucasians will enjoy this movie
> but the movie is done well, it crosses the cultural line and everybody
> enjoyed it.
I won't be surprised 'coz the book is very popular. BTW, Amy Tam
happened to be a student of San Jose City College (you know, those
small community college) and there is a big showcase in the college's
library entrance exhibiting books published by faculties of the college.
As you might expect, there are actually not that many books there in
the showcase. But the upper three rows are empty, except with Amy's two
fictions right there in the middle, together with her signed photo.
SJCC no doubt must be very pround to have her as their student, I
mean, think about that, not even Stanford or Berkeley has that honor.
Since I also had taken some course from SJCC, so I'm proud to tell you
guys that she is my alumna. :-) :-) :-)
> One thing I have to tell you ahead of time - bring a box of Kleenex. :)
> There are TONS of emotions in this movie and it is VERY touching. Also,
> there are tears everywhere and I am serious; the majority of the
> audiences cried, female and male, young and adults - the man and woman
> sitting besides me were crying with tears all over their faces.
> My wife told me that women were crying inside the restroom in groups
> after the movie. It is serious.
>
> P.S. ADVICE: Guys, find some girls to watch it with you and
> girls, don't go with guys. :)
You really scare me, John. I already wept more than once when I
read her book. Maybe I should wait until when the cinema is more
or less empty ...
Steven
--
862. Remember that what's right isn't always popular, and
what is popular isn't always right.
- Life's Little Instruction Book Vol. II by H. J. Brown, Jr.
Peter S. Lau
>One thing I have to tell you ahead of time - bring a box of Kleenex. :)
>There are TONS of emotions in this movie and it is VERY touching. Also,
>there are tears everywhere and I am serious; the majority of the
>audiences cried, female and male, young and adults - the man and woman
>[...]
So, did you cry? :-p
pete
The Wandering Hermit
>
>P.S. ADVICE: Guys, find some girls to watch it with you and
> girls, don't go with guys. :)
Hmm ..... better convince girls not to read this article ....otherwise ..
deadlock ..;)
Kelvin Leung
>To my surprise, I found 98% of
>the audiences were Caucasians and few Asians. I was skeptical
>at first and wondering if the Caucasians will enjoy this movie
>but the movie is done well, it crosses the cultural line and everybody
>enjoyed it.
I'm not surprised, John. I believe Amy Tan has become a notorious
author in the past few years, and her books were on the New York Times
best selling list for a while. I believe a few classes in my school
even used it as a required textbook (they were comparative literature
and women studies classes though). I even overheard an elderly
Caucasian woman recommending her friend (another elderly Caucasian
woman) to read that novel in my college bookstore once.
I read it some years ago... but don't remember what the story was about.
Was it the one about four daugthers and their mothers? (and hey,
isn't all Amy Tan's books talk about daugthers and their relationship
with their mothers?) Does the movie talk about all four families, or
does it focus on one family only?
>P.S. ADVICE: Guys, find some girls to watch it with you and
> girls, don't go with guys. :)
Good grief, John. I begin to wonder which side you are on. :)
>--
>// John Ho from Dallas, Texas, USA (jo...@jho.com)
Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
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better." -- Dr. Seuss (The Lorax)
aw...@hilbert.coe.northeastern.edu
that take place in China, so real and so rarely seen in American theaters.
I went in fully expecting a MAJOR tearjerker, as a result I did not cry, but
close.
But guys, have you noticed that all the Chinese male characters in the movies
(with the exception of June's father and Wayne Wang, the piano teacher) are
bad to the bone? All these guys that the women married were total assholes.
I talked with a girl (non Chinese) afterwards and she said that the movie made
her feel that marrying a Chinese guy is the worst thing that can happen.
Amy Tan herself is married to a Caucasian. I wonder if she has some dislike
for Chinese man. Does anybody know?
Aaron
RAYMOND KWAN
>Currently, there is only one cinema in Dallas
>that is showing but the cinema was FULL - this is not the mini-cinema
>the audiences were Caucasians and few Asians.
both screens SOLD OUT for most of the day! However, unlike in Dallas,
there were at least 20% Asians. This is quite a departure from "The Lover",
where the only cinema showing was 90% empty, and I was the only Asian...
>there are tears everywhere and I am serious; the majority of the
>audiences cried, female and male, young and adults - the man and woman
>My wife told me that women were crying inside the restroom in groups
>after the movie. It is serious.
personally I didn't see/hear any people crying. I have to say that the
people inside the Beltway (in Washington) are of a different breed. They
seem to enjoy the swear words by the "daughters" more. But still, the
response was overwhelmingly positive, with everybody clapping their hands
at the end.
-Raymond Kwan
Georgetown University Medical Center
rkw...@gumedlib.dml.georgetown.edu
rk...@nyx.cs.du.edu
Maggie Yee Man Pong
>One thing I have to tell you ahead of time - bring a box of Kleenex. :)
>There are TONS of emotions in this movie and it is VERY touching. Also,
>there are tears everywhere and I am serious; the majority of the
>audiences cried, female and male, young and adults - the man and woman
>sitting besides me were crying with tears all over their faces.
>My wife told me that women were crying inside the restroom in groups
>after the movie. It is serious.
>// John Ho from Dallas, Texas, USA (jo...@jho.com)
Well, I read the novel about 4 yrs ago and I loved it. However, I don't
remember that I cried my brain out. I guess I'll have to see the movie to
refresh my memory.
maggie
RAYMOND KWAN
aw...@hilbert.coe.northeastern.edu writes:
>But guys, have you noticed that all the Chinese male characters in the
movies
>(with the exception of June's father and Wayne Wang, the piano teacher) are
>bad to the bone? All these guys that the women married were total assholes.
>I talked with a girl (non Chinese) afterwards and she said that the movie
made
>her feel that marrying a Chinese guy is the worst thing that can happen.
as much as some did. But there are other aspects that make me disagree with
John Ho that the movie is of "Oscar" type.
One is that the relationship between the four mothers and their daughters
are too similar: mothers expect them to have roots and spirit; daughters
just want to be average American girls; they finally understand each other.
And those incidents are too familiar and boring as well: don't want to play
piano or chess... The stories of the mothers and grandmothers back in China
are more exciting, but I still have problems interrelating the past with the
present. What is the film really telling us? Finally, I'd expect more
between the four mothers and between the four daughters: despite the fact
that they have all know each other for over 20 years, they all appear to be
strangers!
I'm not saying it's not a good picture, but I have to say that I'm a bit
disappointed. Nevertheless, I still recommend it, and then we can all
discuss...
The other one
>Yes, a pretty moving and at times funny movie. I especially like those parts
>that take place in China, so real and so rarely seen in American theaters.
>I went in fully expecting a MAJOR tearjerker, as a result I did not cry, but
>close.
>But guys, have you noticed that all the Chinese male characters in the movies
>(with the exception of June's father and Wayne Wang, the piano teacher) are
>bad to the bone? All these guys that the women married were total assholes.
Warning:Spoiler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One other. The guy that Lauren Tom's character brings to the
party after dumping here petty cheap husband. The one who not only
liked her, but liked her mother enough to suggest bringing her to
Tahoe with them.
>I talked with a girl (non Chinese) afterwards and she said that the movie made
>her feel that marrying a Chinese guy is the worst thing that can happen.
>Amy Tan herself is married to a Caucasian. I wonder if she has some dislike
>for Chinese man. Does anybody know?
>
>Aaron
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"May the good Lord take a likin' to yuh and blow you up Real Soon"
- Big Jim McBob & Billy Saul Heurock: Celebrity Farm Film Report
John Ho
No. But it was close. :)
John Ho
>Quite different reaction in Washington. The response was more subdue, and
>personally I didn't see/hear any people crying. I have to say that the
>people inside the Beltway (in Washington) are of a different breed.
Different strokes for different folks. :) Maybe "Hard Target" from
John Woo will be a blockbuster up there. :)
John Ho
>jo...@jho.com (John Ho) writes:
>>P.S. ADVICE: Guys, find some girls to watch it with you and
>> girls, don't go with guys. :)
>Good grief, John. I begin to wonder which side you are on. :)
As a man, I stand on the male side.
As a husband, I stand besides my wife. :)
Peter S. Lau
>pl...@qucis.queensu.ca (Peter S. Lau) writes:
>>So, did you cry? :-p
>
>No. But it was close. :)
Oops, I'd better get ready for it since I am quiet
emotional lately. :-\ Even the Cotton commercial
wets my eyes. :-{
pete
H.K. Pang
>The movie "Joy Luck Club" opened up in Dallas last Friday and I
>went to watch it ASAP. This is one serious movie, the
>kind that should at least get an Oscar nomination. I highly
>recommend it and I think all netters owe it to yourself if
>you don't go see it. Currently, there is only one cinema in Dallas
>that is showing but the cinema was FULL - this is not the mini-cinema
>kind but a full size cinema. To my surprise, I found 98% of
>the audiences were Caucasians and few Asians. I was skeptical
>at first and wondering if the Caucasians will enjoy this movie
>but the movie is done well, it crosses the cultural line and everybody
>enjoyed it.
>
>One thing I have to tell you ahead of time - bring a box of Kleenex. :)
>There are TONS of emotions in this movie and it is VERY touching. Also,
>there are tears everywhere and I am serious; the majority of the
>audiences cried, female and male, young and adults - the man and woman
>sitting besides me were crying with tears all over their faces.
>My wife told me that women were crying inside the restroom in groups
>after the movie. It is serious.
>
this is ridiculous. i thought we as a species are thru with this crying movie
stuff. the reason why many non-asians went to see the movies, i suspect, was
merely out of novelty. the same for those mainland moveis that won awards
worldwide.
if a movie makes you cry, you're probably got cheated. a good movie should make
you feel like wanting to be a part of the movie.
>P.S. ADVICE: Guys, find some girls to watch it with you and
> girls, don't go with guys. :)
>--
>// John Ho from Dallas, Texas, USA (jo...@jho.com)
PS. any girl care to go watch it with me? :)
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H.K. Pang
Steven Leung <le...@bittemple.storage.tandem.com> wrote:
>jo...@jho.com (John Ho) writes:
>> The movie "Joy Luck Club" opened up in Dallas last Friday and I
>> went to watch it ASAP. This is one serious movie, the
>> kind that should at least get an Oscar nomination. I highly
>> recommend it and I think all netters owe it to yourself if
>> you don't go see it. Currently, there is only one cinema in Dallas
>> that is showing but the cinema was FULL - this is not the mini-cinema
>> kind but a full size cinema. To my surprise, I found 98% of
>> the audiences were Caucasians and few Asians. I was skeptical
>> at first and wondering if the Caucasians will enjoy this movie
>> but the movie is done well, it crosses the cultural line and everybody
>> enjoyed it.
>
>I won't be surprised 'coz the book is very popular. BTW, Amy Tam
>happened to be a student of San Jose City College (you know, those
>small community college) and there is a big showcase in the college's
>library entrance exhibiting books published by faculties of the college.
>As you might expect, there are actually not that many books there in
>the showcase. But the upper three rows are empty, except with Amy's two
>fictions right there in the middle, together with her signed photo.
>SJCC no doubt must be very pround to have her as their student, I
>mean, think about that, not even Stanford or Berkeley has that honor.
>Since I also had taken some course from SJCC, so I'm proud to tell you
>guys that she is my alumna. :-) :-) :-)
i thought she went to Harvard and married a white guy....
>
>> One thing I have to tell you ahead of time - bring a box of Kleenex. :)
>> There are TONS of emotions in this movie and it is VERY touching. Also,
>> there are tears everywhere and I am serious; the majority of the
>> audiences cried, female and male, young and adults - the man and woman
>> sitting besides me were crying with tears all over their faces.
>> My wife told me that women were crying inside the restroom in groups
>> after the movie. It is serious.
>>
>> P.S. ADVICE: Guys, find some girls to watch it with you and
>> girls, don't go with guys. :)
>
>You really scare me, John. I already wept more than once when I
>read her book. Maybe I should wait until when the cinema is more
>or less empty ...
>
>Steven
>--
>862. Remember that what's right isn't always popular, and
> what is popular isn't always right.
> - Life's Little Instruction Book Vol. II by H. J. Brown, Jr.
Wing Ng
Most of the successful Chinese women overseas (and some in HK too)
marry Caucasian men.
Wing
aw...@hilbert.coe.northeastern.edu
>
>One other. The guy that Lauren Tom's character brings to the
>party after dumping here petty cheap husband. The one who not only
>liked her, but liked her mother enough to suggest bringing her to
>Tahoe with them.
>
>me...@wotan.cns.nyu.edu
>"May the good Lord take a likin' to yuh and blow you up Real Soon"
>- Big Jim McBob & Billy Saul Heurock: Celebrity Farm Film Report
>
>
Yeah, I did not forget him, but I thought his role was so small and
insignificant that it is not worth mentioning.
Aaron
Tanin Uthayanaka
>Quite different reaction in Washington. The response was more subdue, and
>personally I didn't see/hear any people crying. I have to say that the
>people inside the Beltway (in Washington) are of a different breed. They
>seem to enjoy the swear words by the "daughters" more. But still, the
>response was overwhelmingly positive, with everybody clapping their hands
>at the end.
>
>-Raymond Kwan
> Georgetown University Medical Center
> rkw...@gumedlib.dml.georgetown.edu
> rk...@nyx.cs.du.edu
Well, I was there Friday night when it opened and I heard a lot sniffling and
one lady actually had a box of tissue with her. I almost did but the acting just
didn't get to me. I think there were too many stories...12 if I'm not mistaken...
---
Tanin Uthayanaka
Robby Lee
<aw...@hilbert.coe.northeastern.edu> wrote:
>But guys, have you noticed that all the Chinese male characters in the movies
>(with the exception of June's father and Wayne Wang, the piano teacher) are
>bad to the bone? All these guys that the women married were total assholes.
No kidding. Who's the writer of this movie? Some mistreated Chinese
Feminist? Or is this an attempt to stereotype Chinse males?
I hate that male actor (the one that sleeps w/ every girl he mets in
China), who was also in China Cry. That's the only character he can play.
An asshole throughout the movie. If anyone saw China Cry, you'd remember.
He plays the same role! Heck! He's not even Chinese!!!
Robb...@Kaiwan.Com
John C. T. Wong
>In article <1993Sep28.1...@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu>,
> <aw...@hilbert.coe.northeastern.edu> wrote:
>
>>But guys, have you noticed that all the Chinese male characters in the movies
>>(with the exception of June's father and Wayne Wang, the piano teacher) are
>>bad to the bone? All these guys that the women married were total assholes.
Well, Andrew McCarthy's character was as bad as the rest of
the Chinese Men in the movie. Although he defended Rose in
front of his mother, he was sleeping around.
But the movie is different from the book. In the book, the
architect (the dude with the really hip house) was caucasian.
I think. Perhaps Amy Tan is not a bigot, she hates all men. ;^)
Hey is there a word like misogyny that applies to men? But
who could hate us males?
>No kidding. Who's the writer of this movie? Some mistreated Chinese
>Feminist? Or is this an attempt to stereotype Chinse males?
>
>I hate that male actor (the one that sleeps w/ every girl he mets in
>China), who was also in China Cry. That's the only character he can play.
>An asshole throughout the movie. If anyone saw China Cry, you'd remember.
>He plays the same role! Heck! He's not even Chinese!!!
That would be Russell Wong. He's also in "Eat a Bowl of Tea"
also by Wayne Wang. He plays a decent guy in that one.
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Richardson, Texas 75080
Son-Cheong Kuan
H.K. Pang <pa...@twain.ucs.umass.edu> wrote:
>In article <CE10C...@jho.com>, John Ho <jo...@jho.com> wrote:
>>The movie "Joy Luck Club" opened up in Dallas last Friday and I
>>went to watch it ASAP. This is one serious movie, the
>
>this is ridiculous. i thought we as a species are thru with this crying movie
>stuff. the reason why many non-asians went to see the movies, i suspect, was
>merely out of novelty. the same for those mainland moveis that won awards
>worldwide.
>
I think that the producer (Oliver Stone) may have something
to do with it (attracting non-Asians viewers) (?)
I mentioned to one Caucains. Her immediate reaction was
"Oh, Oliver Stone's movie"....... Hmmm....
Victor
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