Can Andy Lau sing ??
ZhiX
Yah ... We know he is very very popular.But can he sing ?? I mean ever
since his "Thank you for your love" Andy's songs sound excatly the same !
Did anyone hear his "Everytime I wake up' It's a wonderful song but .....
He sounds really funny when trying to reach the higher notes right ?? I
mean someone like Jacky, Zhang Ke Fan, Zhong Han Liang MIGHT sound better
then him !
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Angel Lim
ZhiX wrote:
>
> Yah ... We know he is very very popular.But can he sing ?? I mean ever
i hv bought a ticket 2 watch him perform on 31 aug :)
i dunno any of his songs coz i seldom listen 2 andy sings
Chang Wu
ZhiX wrote:
>
> Yah ... We know he is very very popular.But can he sing ?? I mean ever
> Did anyone hear his "Everytime I wake up' It's a wonderful song but .....
> He sounds really funny when trying to reach the higher notes right ?? I
> mean someone like Jacky, Zhang Ke Fan, Zhong Han Liang MIGHT sound better
> then him !
>
For me, I am not a "STAR fan" but a "SONGTRACK fan". I pay more
attention towards good songs instead of each individual star. If my
guess is correct, you are a "SONGTRACK fan" too, right?
Jeffrey Szeto
ZhiX (zh...@mailhost.net) wrote:
: Yah ... We know he is very very popular.But can he sing ?? I mean ever
: since his "Thank you for your love" Andy's songs sound excatly the same !
: Did anyone hear his "Everytime I wake up' It's a wonderful song but .....
: He sounds really funny when trying to reach the higher notes right ?? I
: mean someone like Jacky, Zhang Ke Fan, Zhong Han Liang MIGHT sound better
: then him !
Yes, Andy can sing... sort of. I think he's really good at singing songs
that are very depressing, very "charm", the "say yun lum lau" type. "yut
hay jau gor dick yut jee" is a good example. However, as soon as he
tries the sweeter, more gentle kind of song, it sounds REALLY awful. I
mean, listen to "Except... You", and think about how brutally he's
butchered such a beautiful song.
In case any Andy fans out there are thinking about flaming me, let me
just say this: I buy his CD's anyway, especially the Mandarin ones. Not
that I'm particularly attached to his singing, mind you; it's just that
his depressing songs are very good. Perfect stuff to listen to when
you're in a shitty mood.
Jeff
james chan
In article <320F77...@utoronto.ca>, Chang Wu <chan...@utoronto.ca>
says:
>
>ZhiX wrote:
>> "Thank you for your love" Andy's songs sound excatly the same !
>> Did anyone hear his "Everytime I wake up' It's a wonderful song but
What cd is that on ?????
>> He sounds really funny when trying to reach the higher notes right ??
I like some of the songs that he wrote
>I agree. Andy's skill IS limited. However he does have good songs.
>For me, I am not a "STAR fan" but a "SONGTRACK fan". I pay more
>attention towards good songs instead of each individual star. If my
>guess is correct, you are a "SONGTRACK fan" too, right?
I agree with this comment
more attention should be made to good songs
not just the singer
NO!
NO !!!!
ZhiX
>
> do I think Andy can sing? Yes, he can and he is only behind
>Jacky among the 4 sky kings.
Ermmmm Where did you get this info from ??
His "chang may lu" was such a great song.
>Anyway, his songs sounding the same comes from the composer, but the end
>product does have something to do with the singer's interpretation.
I totaly agree wiht you on this . It just happens that for Andy,
All his songs sound the same as their were written by the same composer
However Andys's interpretion for the songs sound excatly the same !It's
always the feeling and tone he's singing !
I
>don't really listen to him, so I would like to end this now, but would
>like to say this: he has a better understanding of singing the songs
>better than most.
Based on which song ?? Better then most ?? In understanding of songs
I would say that Aaron has a edge over him Besides Aaron sounds more
sincere .. this is based on Their latest songs of course ( Aaron's Message
Dove and Andy's Disaster
Wendy
"ZhiX" <zh...@mailhost.net> wrote:
>
> Yah ... We know he is very very popular.But can he sing ?? I mean ever
>Did anyone hear his "Everytime I wake up' It's a wonderful song but .....
>He sounds really funny when trying to reach the higher notes right ?? I
>then him !
I think he can sing. I mean, he might not be master at it but I guess that he had improved a lot since his first CD. And I don't ag=
ree with you that his songs sounds the same after "Thank You For Your Love". His "Thinking Of You Causes Accidents" CD has a wide va=
riety of songs which are good!
Wendy
LingWu Chung
Oh yeah. In my humble opinion Andy can really sing. I am not a fans of his
and the last time I was convinced he really can sing is when he was
performing in his concert. It was almost the end of the concert and he has
been singing all night long and he almost lost his voice. But then he sang
"Lei Hoi Nei Yi Hau" (After Leaving You) and the quality of his singing is
almost as good as in the album. And that Andy's skills are limited is also
true. What I become convinced though, is that he is really diligent. He
started out as a poor singer.
LingWu
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Jeffrey Szeto
*bewitched* (lan...@rigel.oac.uci.edu) wrote:
: chung gor gor,
: are you sure he sang lei hoi nei yee hau? cuz that's jacky's song.
Actually, Jacky's song is "lei hoi yee hau". And "lei hoi nei yee hau"
is Andy's song.
BTW, what's with this gor gor jeh jeh dai dai mui mui stuff that's been
going on? Hmm, guess we just became one big happy family or something. :)
Jeff
WpFan
*bewitched* wrote:
> chung gor gor,
> are you sure he sang lei hoi nei yee hau? cuz that's jacky's song.
I guess he mean Andy sing his own song "lei hoi yee hau". The
song was out couple of years ago with "Tin Tin Sheung nei". In that
song, there is few note is high.....
wpfan
*bewitched*
On 16 Aug 1996, LingWu Chung wrote:
> Oh yeah. In my humble opinion Andy can really sing. I am not a fans of his
> and the last time I was convinced he really can sing is when he was
> performing in his concert. It was almost the end of the concert and he has
> been singing all night long and he almost lost his voice. But then he sang
> "Lei Hoi Nei Yi Hau" (After Leaving You) and the quality of his singing is
> almost as good as in the album. And that Andy's skills are limited is also
> true. What I become convinced though, is that he is really diligent. He
> started out as a poor singer.
chung gor gor,
are you sure he sang lei hoi nei yee hau? cuz that's jacky's song.
,****,,****,
,* ** *, "suir ling nei sum chee"
* *
* L.C. * who makes your heart go crazy?
*, ,*
*, ,*
'*,* *smiling while dreaming* ;)
Steven Wong
I think in the beginning, he is a bad singer as his voice is very low
and toneless. But in his recent albums, songs like siang shi chen zi,
tian yi and siang yue tao yong yuan (with Rosemond Kwan) is excellent.
Of course, Jacky Cheung is better than him but Andy Lau is improving
tremdously and if he is not the BEST, he is definitely one of the best.
Any comment(s)???
JT
*betwitched* ?tse tse?,
Lei Hoi Nei Yee Hau was indeed sang by Andy ...... Jacky sang Lei hoi
Yee Hau.
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*bewitched*
On Sat, 17 Aug 1996, JT wrote:
> > chung gor gor,
> > are you sure he sang lei hoi nei yee hau? cuz that's jacky's song.
>
> *betwitched* ?tse tse?,
> Lei Hoi Nei Yee Hau was indeed sang by Andy ...... Jacky sang Lei hoi
> Yee Hau.
sor-wee la, jt gor gor. me mess up song titles. i guess i just don't
remember hearing andy's song before. anyway unless you're younger than 18, i
don't think i could be your tse tse. ;)
Angel Lim
JT wrote:
> > > Oh yeah. In my humble opinion Andy can really sing. I am not a fans of his
i will give my comments after i watch his performance on 31 aug at
suntec city :)
Willie J.
I never think he's a masterful singer, but his lastest cantonese
album "Care about you(flip the world)" is pretty good although still
shadowed by his typical Andy Lau style. Track 4 and 7 are really
worth listen, rest are fine. There're at least 6-7 songs stands
above the average.
So, yes andy lau can sing certainly and sometimes very well.
Willie
JT
*bewitched* wrote:
>
> On Sat, 17 Aug 1996, JT wrote:
>
> > > chung gor gor,
> > > are you sure he sang lei hoi nei yee hau? cuz that's jacky's song.
> >
> > *betwitched* ?tse tse?,
> > Lei Hoi Nei Yee Hau was indeed sang by Andy ...... Jacky sang Lei hoi
> > Yee Hau.
>
> sor-wee la, jt gor gor. me mess up song titles. i guess i just don't
> remember hearing andy's song before. anyway unless you're younger than 18, i
> don't think i could be your tse tse. ;)
Hey! I thought revealation of age is a taboo to females?!?! :o
Heh! Heh! Heh! That makes me your gor gor ......
> ,****,,****,
> ,* ** *, "suir ling nei sum chee"
nei ling ngor sum chee
> * *
> * L.C. * who makes your heart go crazy?
you make my heart go bonkers
> *, ,*
> *, ,*
> '*,* *smiling while dreaming* ;)
drooling saliva at the same time?
LingWu Chung
: chung gor gor,
Wow, please call me other ways, this is too ....
: are you sure he sang lei hoi nei yee hau? cuz that's jacky's song.
Oh I am sure. 'cos Jacky's song is really "lei hoi yi hau". Andy's song
"lei hoi nei yi hau" is like :
Lei hoi nei yi hau,
choi chi to nei si chi *achem* sum sor yau ...
: ,****,,****,
: ,* ** *, "suir ling nei sum chee"
: * *
: * L.C. * who makes your heart go crazy?
: *, ,*
: *, ,*
: '*,* *smiling while dreaming* ;)
:
Hey, I think I recognised your signature from a while ago.
If I am right you should be "Miss Bewitched" instead of "Mr. Bewitched"
That Guai Lo called you, right?
LingWu Chung
Steven Wong (sw...@pacific.net.sg) wrote:
: I think in the beginning, he is a bad singer as his voice is very low
Right now I would rather listen to Andy 'cos Jacky's improved to a point
where he could almost improve no more. In fact Jacky's style and voice and
everything is so fixed and I got tired and even sick of his voice :(
LingWu Chung
*Gotta add this 'Chung' on so that somebody would call me Chung Gor Gor
again ....*
Hai Ng Hai, MeiMei Mui Mui ? (If my memory isn't failing me.)
LingWu Chung
Jeffrey Szeto (jsz...@vcn.bc.ca) wrote:: : are you sure he sang lei hoi nei yee hau? cuz that's jacky's song.
:
: Actually, Jacky's song is "lei hoi yee hau". And "lei hoi nei yee hau"
:
: BTW, what's with this gor gor jeh jeh dai dai mui mui stuff that's been
: going on? Hmm, guess we just became one big happy family or something. :)
:
: Jeff
I was bewildered too. You mean it's been going on for a while?
Jeff suk suk :P (instead of gor gor jeh jeh dai dai mui mui)
Where is my Siu Si Mui?
LingWu Chung
LingWu Chung
JT (star...@singnet.com.sg) wrote:
: *bewitched* wrote:
: >
: >
: > > > chung gor gor,
: > > > are you sure he sang lei hoi nei yee hau? cuz that's jacky's song.
: > >
: > > Lei Hoi Nei Yee Hau was indeed sang by Andy ...... Jacky sang Lei hoi
: > > Yee Hau.
: >
: > sor-wee la, jt gor gor. me mess up song titles. i guess i just don't
: > remember hearing andy's song before. anyway unless you're younger than 18, i
: > don't think i could be your tse tse. ;)
:
:
: Hey! I thought revealation of age is a taboo to females?!?! :o
: Heh! Heh! Heh! That makes me your gor gor ......
Oh no! I feel like I am "Chung Suk Suk" or even "Chung Pak Pak"!
Hey Jeff I guess girls would like to tell ppl home old they are when they
are 18 'cos that's when they are the most pretty!
Jeffrey Szeto
LingWu Chung (3a...@qlink.queensu.ca) wrote:
: I was bewildered too. You mean it's been going on for a while?
: Jeff suk suk :P (instead of gor gor jeh jeh dai dai mui mui)
: Where is my Siu Si Mui?
: LingWu Chung
Man, I'm NOWHERE near that old to be elevated into the status of a suk
suk. I'm an undergrad, too. I guess at the most you can call me see
hing or something.
And forget about siu si mui -- she's not good enough for lingwu chung
anyway. Ying Ying beats Ngok Ling San ANY day.
Time for me to find my Wong Yung.
Jeff
Vernon W. Hui
On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, keyBoArD cowBOY wrote:
> >suntec city :)
>
> He's sung here before. Some years back at Hoover.
he performed in chicago last december. although his performance was
almost exactly the same as it was for his concert tour from the summer of
('94/95?) i was very impressed with his on stage-persona. he even opened
up a 15-20 minute "time-out" to let us deem cherng some songs. i think he
really has worked hard to get to where he is today, cuz he was pretyy bad
when he first stared.
Vern
*bewitched*
On Sun, 18 Aug 1996, JT wrote:
> > sor-wee la, jt gor gor. me mess up song titles. i guess i just don't
> > remember hearing andy's song before. anyway unless you're younger than 18, i
> > don't think i could be your tse tse. ;)
>
> Hey! I thought revealation of age is a taboo to females?!?! :o
> Heh! Heh! Heh! That makes me your gor gor ......
only after you get older, does it start to become a sensitive issue. to
guys too. but when you're young, you flaunt it :)
> > ,****,,****,
> > ,* ** *, "suir ling nei sum chee"
> nei ling ngor sum chee
> > * *
> > * L.C. * who makes your heart go crazy?
> you make my heart go bonkers
> > *, ,* then you're too easily affected.
> > *, ,*
> > '*,* *smiling while dreaming* ;)
> drooling saliva at the same time?
uh, no. i fortunately don't have that
probelm. you on the other hand,
need to be careful. you don't wanna end
up being the first guy to drown in his
own drool.
ugh! after reading your reply, i decided to change that part. i never
realized how perverted it sounds.
,****,,****,
,* ** *, "suir ling nei sum chee"
* *
* L.C. * who makes your heart go crazy?
*, ,*
*, ,*
'*,* just *smiling* now, dreaming's too dangerous ;)
*bewitched*
On 19 Aug 1996, Jeffrey Szeto wrote:
> Man, I'm NOWHERE near that old to be elevated into the status of a suk
> suk. I'm an undergrad, too. I guess at the most you can call me see
> hing or something.
>
> And forget about siu si mui -- she's not good enough for lingwu chung
> anyway. Ying Ying beats Ngok Ling San ANY day.
totally. siu see mui is an idiot. too bad lingwu chung can't forget about
her.
> Time for me to find my Wong Yung.
actually, there is one who used to be in schke but i haven't seen her for a
long time now. you might have trouble finding her. besides i think jing
gor gor would beat up. :)
,****,,****,
,* ** *, "suir ling nei sum chee"
*bewitched*
On 19 Aug 1996, LingWu Chung wrote:
> : chung gor gor,
> Wow, please call me other ways, this is too ....
how about lingwu dai gor? chung dai gor? chung gor? (like ying ying calls
you)
> Oh I am sure. 'cos Jacky's song is really "lei hoi yi hau". Andy's song
> "lei hoi nei yi hau" is like :
>
> Lei hoi nei yi hau,
> choi chi to nei si chi *achem* sum sor yau ...
ooo, sounds good. gotta listen to it.
> : ,****,,****,
> : ,* ** *, "suir ling nei sum chee"
> : * *
> : * L.C. * who makes your heart go crazy?
> : *, ,*
> : *, ,*
> : '*,* *smiling while dreaming* ;)
> :
>
> Hey, I think I recognised your signature from a while ago.
> If I am right you should be "Miss Bewitched" instead of "Mr. Bewitched"
> That Guai Lo called you, right?
yep. i used to go under the name gidget, if you remember.
keyBoArD cowBOY
Angel Lim <ang...@pacific.net.sg> wrote:
>JT wrote:
>> > > Oh yeah. In my humble opinion Andy can really sing. I am not a fans of his
>i will give my comments after i watch his performance on 31 aug at
>suntec city :)
He's sung here before. Some years back at Hoover.
keyBoArD cowBOY
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Kenny Leong
ZhiX wrote:
>
> Yah ... We know he is very very popular.But can he sing ?? I mean ever
> since his "Thank you for your love" Andy's songs sound excatly the same !
> Did anyone hear his "Everytime I wake up' It's a wonderful song but .....
> He sounds really funny when trying to reach the higher notes right ?? I
> mean someone like Jacky, Zhang Ke Fan, Zhong Han Liang MIGHT sound better
> then him !
> *Respect My Views & I'll Respect Yours*
Yes, he can definitely sing. He's got the albums to prove it as well as
the fans, plus his awards. Yes, Jacky is a great singer but has that deep
kind of voice which I wouldn't want to listen to all the time. Whereas
Andy Lau has a more pleasant kind of voice. Anyhow, they're all good,
otherwise they wouldn't be there.
Kenny L.
Clara Tay
Well, actually Andy Lau can sing but most of the songs sounds almost the
same. I think that he should have a breakout in order to prove that he can
sing.
It seem that all the song from him make me feel so sad.
Why? tell me why, please tell me why??? Can any one tell me why????
In article <321A24...@cerberus.ece.jcu.edu.au>, Kenny Leong
ZhiX
>
> Yes, he can definitely sing. He's got the albums to prove it as well as
> the fans, plus his awards.
number of awards, number of fans reflect if a singer can sing ?? My
personal view is NOT ...
Yes, Jacky is a great singer but has that deep
> kind of voice which I wouldn't want to listen to all the time.
Whereas > Andy Lau has a more pleasant kind of voice.
Lots of people will disagree with you ... including me .. ( No offense )
(B b
Ng Chin Chin
Hello,
Well, in my opinion, he has improved a lot since he first started in 1985.
I remembered watching his 93 concert and was still critising that he
didn't have enough skills to sing live in concert and hey! in the 94
concert, I was awed by his performance! There were some songs where he
sang better live in concert than in the albums.
My friend who had just watched the 96 concert in HK also reflected that it
is even better than the 94 one.
I seriously think that he has worked hard to improve his singing skills,
just because he has first started out as an actor that people have the
biased opinion that he cannot sing.
Regards...
Chin Chin
*bewitched*
On 21 Aug 1996, tan ching cheng wrote:
> > : And forget about siu si mui -- she's not good enough for lingwu chung
> > : anyway. Ying Ying beats Ngok Ling San ANY day.
>
> > Ying Ying is more beautiful than Siu Si Mui, smarter than Siu Siu
> > Mui, and she even trade her own life for mine in Siu Lam Chi... but
> > sometimes love is like, girls that you cannot be with are worth 1000 times
> > more than the girl you can be with all the time.....
>
> yeah, guys always like that... it is call "gee chor jing"
> girls better don't go with the guys who like them, otherwise girls
> will be "gee chor jing" either....
sleeptalk ah,
what's gee chor jing? first disease?
> > : Time for me to find my Wong Yung.
> > You gotta be a stubborn, foolish, but kind and nice guy like Ching
> > Gor Gor.
> Ching gor gor is kinda fool but he just love one, only one..
> which is much better than Ling Wu Chung.....
> Sleeptalk
agreed. how come there's no jing gor gor around here?
LingWu Chung
Jeffrey Szeto (jsz...@vcn.bc.ca) wrote:
: Man, I'm NOWHERE near that old to be elevated into the status of a suk
: suk. I'm an undergrad, too. I guess at the most you can call me see
: hing or something.
I think I am the same age as you are, or perhaps I am even older
than you. I am 21. I'll call you Jeff Hing Dei! (Si Hing, No way. I am Wah
San Pai Tai Si Hing!
: And forget about siu si mui -- she's not good enough for lingwu chung
: anyway. Ying Ying beats Ngok Ling San ANY day.
Ying Ying is more beautiful than Siu Si Mui, smarter than Siu Siu
Mui, and she even trade her own life for mine in Siu Lam Chi... but
sometimes love is like, girls that you cannot be with are worth 1000 times
more than the girl you can be with all the time.....
: Time for me to find my Wong Yung.
You gotta be a stubborn, foolish, but kind and nice guy like Ching
Gor Gor.
========================
LingWu Chung
: > : chung gor gor,
:
: how about lingwu dai gor? chung dai gor? chung gor? (like ying ying calls
: you)
Lum Siu Si Mui calls me .... :)
: > : ,****,,****,
: > : ,* ** *, "suir ling nei sum chee"
: > : * *
: > : * L.C. * who makes your heart go crazy?
: > : *, ,*
: > : *, ,*
: > : '*,* *smiling while dreaming* ;)
: > :
Suir Ling Ngoh Sum Chee? Siu Si Mui Loh. Ying Ying is very nice to me,
but she loves me more than I love her. I one I truely love, though, is Siu
Si Mui...
: > Hey, I think I recognised your signature from a while ago.
: > If I am right you should be "Miss Bewitched" instead of "Mr. Bewitched"
: > That Guai Lo called you, right?
:
: yep. i used to go under the name gidget, if you remember.
Nope I don't. I have actually mistaken you to be another gal. Too bad my
memory is getting worse :( Maybe I drank too much )
tan ching cheng
LingWu Chung (3a...@qlink.queensu.ca) wrote:
> Jeffrey Szeto (jsz...@vcn.bc.ca) wrote:
> : And forget about siu si mui -- she's not good enough for lingwu chung
> : anyway. Ying Ying beats Ngok Ling San ANY day.
> Ying Ying is more beautiful than Siu Si Mui, smarter than Siu Siu
> Mui, and she even trade her own life for mine in Siu Lam Chi... but
> sometimes love is like, girls that you cannot be with are worth 1000 times
> more than the girl you can be with all the time.....
yeah, guys always like that... it is call "gee chor jing"
girls better don't go with the guys who like them, otherwise girls
will be "gee chor jing" either....
> : Time for me to find my Wong Yung.
> You gotta be a stubborn, foolish, but kind and nice guy like Ching
> Gor Gor.
Ching gor gor is kinda fool but he just love one, only one..
which is much better than Ling Wu Chung.....
Sleeptalk
> ========================
*bewitched*
On 21 Aug 1996, LingWu Chung wrote:
> : > : chung gor gor,
> : > Wow, please call me other ways, this is too ....
> :
> : how about lingwu dai gor? chung dai gor? chung gor? (like ying ying calls
> : you)
> Just call me LingWu Si Hing or LingWu Dai Gor, just like what Yi
> Lum Siu Si Mui calls me .... :)
okay, if that makes you happy, ah lingwu dai gor. just don't think of
me as a nun though. yee lum is too wishy-washy.
> Suir Ling Ngoh Sum Chee? Siu Si Mui Loh. Ying Ying is very nice to me,
> but she loves me more than I love her. I one I truely love, though, is Siu
> Si Mui...
then you're a fool. but if you're happy being a fool, so be it. :)
,****,,****,
,* ** *, "suir ling nei sum chee"
* *
* L.C. * who makes your heart go crazy?
*, ,*
*, ,*
tan ching cheng
*bewitched* (lan...@rigel.oac.uci.edu) wrote:
> On 21 Aug 1996, tan ching cheng wrote:
> > > Ying Ying is more beautiful than Siu Si Mui, smarter than Siu Siu
> > > Mui, and she even trade her own life for mine in Siu Lam Chi... but
> > > sometimes love is like, girls that you cannot be with are worth 1000 times
> > > more than the girl you can be with all the time.....
> > yeah, guys always like that... it is call "gee chor jing"
> > girls better don't go with the guys who like them, otherwise girls
> > will be "gee chor jing" either....
> sleeptalk ah,
> what's gee chor jing? first disease?
"gee(self) chor/jor(make) jing(cheap)" hahaha... sorry ah...
guys "gee jor jing" coz they like something which they can't get...
girls "gee jor jing".. when they let guys get them...
as Mr. LingWu said 1000 times.... after guys get them, girls will
depreciation 1000 times.... what a pity thing...
Sleeptalk
> > > : Time for me to find my Wong Yung.
> > > You gotta be a stubborn, foolish, but kind and nice guy like Ching
> > > Gor Gor.
> > Ching gor gor is kinda fool but he just love one, only one..
> > which is much better than Ling Wu Chung.....
> > Sleeptalk
> agreed. how come there's no jing gor gor around here?
lenglui ;)
> Andy Lau has a more pleasant kind of voice. Anyhow, they're all good,
> otherwise they wouldn't be there.
>
> Kenny L.
>
>
excuse me. whoa, i beg to differ. the " they're all good, otherwise they
wouldn't be there." statement is definitely...*shakes head* no. GOOD
has absolutely nothing to do with the entertainment circle anymore.
when you start seeing people like GOng HEi mUn and the what's her name
vice-president from fitto, you know something is wrong...
and when you see leslie and priscilla being worshipped for their returns
when all they truthfully have done is profit financially from such an
actiona and then barely throw ANY effort into their singing,....you know
something is wrong...
and you know when vchow is made to be like such a QUEEN of singing, you
definitely know something is wrong.
and when you see all those out there who could easily out-sing andy lau or
whomever, but have NO recognition whatsoever, you know something is wrong.
and when you think about how all these years, jackky has never received a
single "most accepted male singer" when ANDY of all people has numerous
times, you know something is wrong.
face it, tvb is just a stupid facade. they choose what to do and how to
do and who to do it with. take that comment as far-fetched as you like. i
think it all applies no matter what way you saw that comment as.
maymay
http://gl.umbc.edu/~mtam3
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It was the horror of this world that a thousand evils were visited on
those who were blameless and no one was ever punished, and side by side
with the greatest promise was nothing but misery and want. Children
mutilated to make a choir of seraphim, their song a cry to heaven
that heaven did not hear...
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Keith Tang
ZhiX (zh...@mailhost.net) wrote:
: Yah ... We know he is very very popular.But can he sing ?? I mean ever
: since his "Thank you for your love" Andy's songs sound excatly the same !
: Did anyone hear his "Everytime I wake up' It's a wonderful song but .....
: He sounds really funny when trying to reach the higher notes right ?? I
: mean someone like Jacky, Zhang Ke Fan, Zhong Han Liang MIGHT sound better
: then him !
Hehe we all know that there are "sut lick pye" singers and then there are
the ones that are "idol pye" singers. I have to admit that Andy is one
of the "idol" singers. He definetly does not have the talent when
compared to other singers such as Jacky Cheung, Hacken Lee, Emil Chou or
Cheung Yeu (How do you say Cheung Yeu in Mandarin?). Even though some of
his songs are good, I have to agree with you that Andy's songs sound so
very much alike. Who are your most favourite singers that can actually
sing? ;)
ZhiX
> Hehe we all know that there are "sut lick pye" singers and then there are
> the ones that are "idol pye" singers. I have to admit that Andy is one
> of the "idol" singers. He definetly does not have the talent when
> compared to other singers such as Jacky Cheung, Hacken Lee, Emil Chou or
> Cheung Yeu (How do you say Cheung Yeu in Mandarin?). Even though some of
> his songs are good, I have to agree with you that Andy's songs sound so
> very much alike. Who are your most favourite singers that can actually
> sing? ;)
>
Mmmm ... For Females I have to say that Faye Wong, Kit Chan, Mavis Fan,
Nisa ( Lim or Lin ?? ) For Males, Jacky Cheung, Cheung Zhi Ling, Jeff
Chang, Zheng Zhong Ji ... What about it ??
Kenneth Leong
"lenglui ;)" <mt...@gl.umbc.edu> writes:
>> Andy Lau has a more pleasant kind of voice. Anyhow, they're all good,
>> otherwise they wouldn't be there.
>>
>> Kenny L.
>>
>>
>excuse me. whoa, i beg to differ. the " they're all good, otherwise they
>wouldn't be there." statement is definitely...*shakes head* no. GOOD
>has absolutely nothing to do with the entertainment circle anymore.
>when you start seeing people like GOng HEi mUn and the what's her name
>vice-president from fitto, you know something is wrong...
These folks have talent. Sure others may be able to sing better but do
they have the same combined features to give them the edge? Nope.
>and when you see leslie and priscilla being worshipped for their returns
>when all they truthfully have done is profit financially from such an
>actiona and then barely throw ANY effort into their singing,....you know
>something is wrong...
Well to a lot of people, they are still great. And there is nothing
wrong.
>and you know when vchow is made to be like such a QUEEN of singing, you
>definitely know something is wrong.
She is incredibly talented. She didn't become popular just be sitting
around. Again there is nothing wrong with this.
>and when you see all those out there who could easily out-sing andy lau or
>whomever, but have NO recognition whatsoever, you know something is wrong.
Like I said previously....these others may sing better, but do they
have the same features in a head to head comparison? - Dancing,
character, communications skills, gift for entertaining large crowds for
long periods of time? etc...
>and when you think about how all these years, jackky has never received a
>single "most accepted male singer" when ANDY of all people has numerous
>times, you know something is wrong.
Why should there be anything wrong with that? That's just the vote of
the public isn't it? - fair and square.
>face it, tvb is just a stupid facade. they choose what to do and how to
>do and who to do it with. take that comment as far-fetched as you like. i
>think it all applies no matter what way you saw that comment as.
> maymay
I hope I've given you some other ideas to thinking about first.
Kenny L.
--
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email: Kennet...@marlin.jcu.edu.au
ZhiX
> >excuse me. whoa, i beg to differ. the " they're all good, otherwise they
> >wouldn't be there." statement is definitely...*shakes head* no. GOOD
> >has absolutely nothing to do with the entertainment circle anymore.
> >when you start seeing people like GOng HEi mUn and the what's her name
> >vice-president from fitto, you know something is wrong...
Regarding the vice-preident thing Is she the one who sang "Tao Sin" ?? If
she is .. MMmm I must say the song sounds quite all-right. She is able to
sing !
> >and you know when vchow is made to be like such a QUEEN of singing, you
> >definitely know something is wrong.
> She is incredibly talented. She didn't become popular just be sitting
> around. Again there is nothing wrong with this.
I totally agree with you ! I mean lotsa people just judge Vivian based on
her looks They just say she's a pretty face without talents BUT if they've
taken some trouble just to listen to her albums They'll see that She's
talented as well.
> >and when you see all those out there who could easily out-sing andy lau
or
> >whomever, but have NO recognition whatsoever, you know something is
wrong.
> Like I said previously....these others may sing better, but do they
> have the same features in a head to head comparison? - Dancing,
> character, communications skills, gift for entertaining large crowds for
> long periods of time? etc...
Out sing Andy ?? Lots of poeple could do that Can't they ?? William So is
just one that popped into my mind.
> >and when you think about how all these years, jackky has never received
a
> >single "most accepted male singer" when ANDY of all people has numerous
> >times, you know something is wrong.
> Why should there be anything wrong with that? That's just the vote of
> the public isn't it? - fair and square.
The public may not be always right .. Surprisingly the general public
listens to whatever the radio dishes out to them ..Sometimes Good singers
and songs are left out from the station's playlist and thus the general
public who's too lazy to explore other singers and songs will not know
them.
Nicole Ong
Everybody's been going on about whether Andy can sing. Well, I used to be a
big fan of his and while I do like his singing, I have to say that there are
many other male singers who are much better, but not as good-looking. That's
why they get passed up for Andy for all the popular male singer awards.
Haven't been really listening to him recently. His attitude nowadays really
pisses me off. He used to be this really nice sweet boy who was really
sincere about everybody and everything. But now it's all just publicity crap.
As long as his albums sell, and fan club populations get bigger, he doesn't
really care about anything else, xcept looking good.
I was a big fan till last year's 933 music awards (in Singapore). His fan
club was there all cheering (sickeningly) for him. Gawd, those girls (and
guys) are really juvenile. ( I made an ever-lasting vow never to join a
fan club after this, tho' Jeff Chang and Takeshi Kaneshiro almost made me
change my mind) And there are thirty-somethings who still act as if they were
in their teens. (I know one of them). However, AL just had this god-awful
arrogant attitude, and it really p.oed me coz I was actually cheering for him.
Last year anyway. I hope Jeff wins it this year.
As for the big question, Can Andy Lau actually act? Even back in my fan-dom
days, I never paid 5, 6 bucks to watch him at the movies. All of them sucked.
Except maybe A Time of Romance <?> with Jacqueline Ng and Heaven and Earth.
Everything else seemed like a clone of A Time Of Romance: He was a gangster,
fell in love with rich <maybe> pretty girl whose family sent her away after
learning about budding romance, and he goes and gets himself killed, chopped
down in Portland Street, maybe. See? It sucks. (But I haven't watched
Shanghai Grand yet.)
I know a whole lot of AL fans will come after me with burning torches, but I
don't care. I hope he knows that there are fans <ex-fans> of his who feel
this way, and maybe change his whole attitude.
Nicole aka Cyradis
Seeress of Kell
I once played poker with apack of tarot cards, got a full house, and four people died.
Nicholas
Everyone can sing. It's just the matter if he/she can sing well. And of
course Andy can sing well. No doubt about it!! His songs are suitable to
him. If you think you can sing better than Andy...you would have been the
top male star by now.
--
I'm a simple Mac user.
Wing-Chun V Cho
Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.hongkong.entertainment: 1-Sep-96 Re:
Can Andy Lau sing ?? by Nich...@aa.net
agree with you again!
Beijing Ge Men-er
In article <01bb997a$8c0331a0$LocalHost@zhixiang>,
ZhiX <zh...@mailhost.net> wrote:
> I totally agree with you ! I mean lotsa people just judge Vivian based on
>her looks They just say she's a pretty face without talents BUT if they've
>taken some trouble just to listen to her albums They'll see that She's
>talented as well.
she might be very talented. but judging by only listening albums is not
enough. i would say if singer's album and live show are both good, then
he/she is a good singer, one example is Alan Tam...
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Ivor
In-Reply-To: <ang-010996...@morrison-c25.aa.net>
Wow, her "The Night is too Dark" album is just too nice.
Ought to be a Hit ... ... Any one out there know her official HomePage
??? Also where is Channel V HomePage ???
Tristan Chu
: days, I never paid 5, 6 bucks to watch him at the movies. All of them sucked.
: Everything else seemed like a clone of A Time Of Romance: He was a gangster,
: fell in love with rich <maybe> pretty girl whose family sent her away after
: learning about budding romance, and he goes and gets himself killed, chopped
: down in Portland Street, maybe. See? It sucks. (But I haven't watched
: Shanghai Grand yet.)
: I know a whole lot of AL fans will come after me with burning torches, but I
: don't care. I hope he knows that there are fans <ex-fans> of his who feel
: this way, and maybe change his whole attitude.
It is wierd how when you are writing this, how you mention about his
attitude that pissed you off, what if he has a good attitude, you won't
be here dissing him. So I guess it is just the attitude that has gotten
you into saying these stuff. But I really don't care for how you attack
him, because I personally am not a fan of his, just someone that admires
a handsome and cool guy like him. Anyway, I am not trying to attack you
or your writing, but when you said all his movies are the same, as
frustated as you are, it is not truth, he has played in many different
parts. But it's not use telling you, because you're frustated, that's why
all the bullshit!!
S.L.M
: Everybody's been going on about whether Andy can sing. Well, I used to
be a
: big fan of his and while I do like his singing, I have to say that there
are
: many other male singers who are much better, but not as good-looking.
That's
: why they get passed up for Andy for all the popular male singer awards.
I agree. Singers like Zhang Kefan, Wu Sikai... they have remarkable vocals
and composing abilities. Alas, they don't have die-hard fans like Andy. As
what you've written up
there.. its the "MOST popular singer " awards that's up for grabs. Andy is
certainly getting them cuz there's hordes of 'enthusiastic' fans casting
their votes for him. But if you were to include " Best vocalist"... not a
chance in hell will he be getting them! he sings like a "hokkien lung"
: Haven't been really listening to him recently. His attitude nowadays
really
: pisses me off. He used to be this really nice sweet boy who was really
: sincere about everybody and everything. But now it's all just publicity
crap.
: As long as his albums sell, and fan club populations get bigger, he
doesn't
: really care about anything else, xcept looking good.
I dunno about his attitude change but I do know that his popularity hasn't
wane over the years.
It's either he's looking better than before or his singing has attracted
more fans. Somehow, I doubt its the latter. But the exposure he has been
getting is way, way many times more than the other artistes. You see him in
commmercials, movies, charity events, covers of Cdz, magazines blah blah
blahs.....too much of anythang is bad for you.
: I was a big fan till last year's 933 music awards (in Singapore). His
fan
: club was there all cheering (sickeningly) for him. Gawd, those girls
(and
: guys) are really juvenile. ( I made an ever-lasting vow never to join a
: fan club after this, tho' Jeff Chang and Takeshi Kaneshiro almost made me
: change my mind) And there are thirty-somethings who still act as if they
were
: in their teens. (I know one of them). However, AL just had this god-awful
: arrogant attitude, and it really p.oed me coz I was actually cheering for
him.
: Last year anyway. I hope Jeff wins it this year.
You know what! I was there too!! Andy-dressed as a 白 馬 王 子 with
a bandaged hand.d. Remembered < who can ever forget those crazy bunch>
getting really pissed off by his fans with their gigantic hand
gloves<bloody ninnies blocked my view>, irritating chants and all. I
thought I saw a couple of Ah sohs and Ah paks there too!! Really
....sheeeshh! Anyway. I wasn't cheering for him back then, or anyone else
in fact< not even for Faye whom I was rooting for at that time> It was all
so ludicrous!! Three quarters of the stadium was laughing at the other
quarter for making a fool of themselves. For goodness sake.. clap only when
necessary. Thank Gawd Leon & Jacky didn't turn up. Or else a "fanwar"
would have broken out!!
: As for the big question, Can Andy Lau actually act? Even back in my
fan-dom
: days, I never paid 5, 6 bucks to watch him at the movies. All of them
sucked.
: Except maybe A Time of Romance <?> with Jacqueline Ng and Heaven and
Earth.
: Everything else seemed like a clone of A Time Of Romance: He was a
gangster,
: fell in love with rich <maybe> pretty girl whose family sent her away
after
: learning about budding romance, and he goes and gets himself killed,
chopped
: down in Portland Street, maybe. See? It sucks. (But I haven't watched
: Shanghai Grand yet.)
In fact most of the HKies' productions SUCK! I've stopped watching them in
the theatres since the day I decided that its all pure thrashy craps that
are recycled. <Stephen
Chow's flicks had something to do with that decision>
Whether AL is able to act... personally, I feel that he is a better actor
than a singer. <quality of script is another debatable issue>
ZhiX
Beijing Ge Men-er <yu...@csd.uwo.ca> wrote in article
<50d5iv$j...@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>...
> she might be very talented. but judging by only listening albums is not
> enough. i would say if singer's album and live show are both good, then
> he/she is a good singer, one example is Alan Tam...
Alam Tam ??!! Lots of people will disagree with you ... Besides I can't
stand the way about how Alan keeps going on about his "YOUTH"
BTW .. Vivian's conecrt where she sang live was really very good ...
ZhiX
> It is wierd how when you are writing this, how you mention about his
> attitude that pissed you off, what if he has a good attitude, you won't
> be here dissing him. So I guess it is just the attitude that has gotten
> you into saying these stuff. But I really don't care for how you attack
> him, because I personally am not a fan of his, just someone that admires
> a handsome and cool guy like him. Anyway, I am not trying to attack you
> or your writing, but when you said all his movies are the same, as
> frustated as you are, it is not truth, he has played in many different
> parts. But it's not use telling you, because you're frustated, that's why
> all the bullshit!!
Wait a minute ... Are you sure you're not a Andy Fan ?? Cause you sure
sound like one ... Andy's RECENT movie roles are kinda of similar .. Cool
guy-type of roles where YOU DON'T ACT , YOU LOOK COOL ..
You wanna REAL acting from a singer Try Aaron Kwok ..
BTW , No matter how bad Andy is, at least he dosen't act young unlike a
certain Ermmm .. singer ...
Nicole Ong
Hmmm, something's wrong with my news reader. So have to reply from memory.
Anyway I don't have a chinese reader so not so sure what you wrote. But I
def. agree with you on the fans. Luckily I was sitting quite far up so they
couldn't block me. The giant hands made them look like WWF fans instead. :=P
(I just luv to diss the fan club juveniles). BTW are you going this year? I
wanted to but decided to save $$$ and watch on TV.
Oh yeh. A certain singer's fan club fights with anybody whether he's there or
not. Something about being in a big group and cheering for an idiot who isn't
even good-looking. But Jacky doesn't have a fan club. Just lots and lots and
lots of fans.
Another agreement. Stephen Chow movies suck!!!! I proclaim to the world.
Don't why ppl actually pay good $$$ to watch him, and then try to defend
themselves when I diss them about it. They mainly have nothing to say after I
say his movies are sh**! :=P
I'm going to wait and see if Andy decides to get some really good movies and
start doing good on the moviescreen.
Nicole Ong
In article <01bb9a56$c12ae760$0c0474cb@zhixiang>,
"ZhiX" <zh...@mailhost.net> wrote:
> You wanna REAL acting from a singer Try Aaron Kwok ..
>
> BTW , No matter how bad Andy is, at least he dosen't act young unlike
a
>certain Ermmm .. singer ...
>
WHO???!!!
Nicole Ong
In article <01bb989b$3319c3e0$Loca...@MERLINDA.swiftech.com.sg>,
"S.L.M" <merl...@swiftech.com.sg> wrote:
>I agree. Singers like Zhang Kefan, Wu Sikai... they have remarkable vocals
>and composing abilities. Alas, they don't have die-hard fans like Andy. As
>what you've written up
Yep. It's sad 'coz then a lot of people who are not 'into' singers etc., get
the wrong idea and think that 'Most Popular' also means 'Best Singer'.
Extremely unfair to a lot of up and coming young singers and even older ones
like Hacken Lee and Jeff Chang. 2 of my faves, BTW. ;-)
>chance in hell will he be getting them! he sings like a "hokkien lung"
>
8-) Agree with you there. Lucky it's not very obvious.
>I dunno about his attitude change but I do know that his popularity hasn't
>wane over the years.
>It's either he's looking better than before or his singing has attracted
>more fans. Somehow, I doubt its the latter. But the exposure he has been
>getting is way, way many times more than the other artistes. You see him in
>commmercials, movies, charity events, covers of Cdz, magazines blah blah
>blahs.....too much of anythang is bad for you.
>
It's definitely his looks! Just to digress, there was once I heard a girl on
radio (Aaron fan). She didn't really like one of his songs at that time, but
be'coz of 'Lung Hu Bang' (Top Ten Songs) and b'coz she was his fan, she
decided to just vote it into the Top Ten. Only some time after did she slowly
grow to like it. This is exactly what is happening with all these 'pretty boy
singers' who gain popularity not becoz of talent but mainly coz of looks.
Anyway, I don't really like the way he looks now after he got his personal
trainer. Looks like he's got 2 big caves in his cheeks. Ewww!
(Lost the rest of your message. Will try to search for it) Nice 'talking' to
you. ;-)
Nicole Ong
In article <50dv31$3...@news.csus.edu>,
sac1...@saclink1.csus.edu (Tristan Chu) wrote:
>
> It is wierd how when you are writing this, how you mention about his
>attitude that pissed you off, what if he has a good attitude, you won't
>be here dissing him. So I guess it is just the attitude that has gotten
>you into saying these stuff.
YES OBVIOUSLY! It's the attitude which pisses me off. I already stated it
very clearly. Read my message again if you can't get it. His attitude sucks.
Check out my messsage about his concert.
But I really don't care for how you attack
>him, because I personally am not a fan of his, just someone that admires
>a handsome and cool guy like him. Anyway, I am not trying to attack you
>or your writing, but when you said all his movies are the same, as
>frustated as you are, it is not truth, he has played in many different
>parts.
Again please read my message properly. I've already explained how his movies
are the "same". B'coz the plots are always the same. Not b'coz he plays the
same part, or they used the same actors or places for filming. Don't you get
sick of seeing the "same" movie over and over again?
But it's not use telling you, because you're frustated, that's why
>all the bullshit!!
Frustrated??? Well of course. I've already said that I USED TO BE an AL fan.
(since 1987) Just that he got worse over the years so I just got pissed off.
That's why all this "hate" e-mail, all right!!!!????? I don't think I'm the
one talking the bullshit here. :=P
C.H. Mak
Ivor (s550...@mercury.np.ac.sg) wrote:
: Wow, her "The Night is too Dark" album is just too nice.
: Ought to be a Hit ... ... Any one out there know her official HomePage
: ??? Also where is Channel V HomePage ???
Glad to find another compliment on Sandy's "Night's Too Dark." It
is indeed a nice album!
The UNofficial Sandy homepage is at:
http://www.tezcat.com/~sleepy/sandy
This is a page written by Sandy fans (Ms. Vicky, actually), and
for Sandy fans. You can find almost everything you could know about Sandy
Lam. There's also a mailing list tied to the web site. The NEW address
to our mailing list is "san...@c2.net" and the web site will give you
more information about this mailing list for her fans.
The official web site for Sandy can be found at Rock Record's
homepage at:
You can find Sandy under both the HK and Taiwan directories.
If you haven't heard, Sandy will be coming to Singapore on
September 21st for her "Love, Sandy 1996 Concert."
Her concert in HK will start in only 3 more days!!!!!
I can't wait to see her on stage!
SL
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Beijing Ge Men-er
In article <01bb9a55$2958be40$0c0474cb@zhixiang>,
ZhiX <zh...@mailhost.net> wrote:
>
>
>Beijing Ge Men-er <yu...@csd.uwo.ca> wrote in article
><50d5iv$j...@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>...
>> she might be very talented. but judging by only listening albums is not
>> enough. i would say if singer's album and live show are both good, then
>> he/she is a good singer, one example is Alan Tam...
>
> Alam Tam ??!! Lots of people will disagree with you ... Besides I can't
>stand the way about how Alan keeps going on about his "YOUTH"
i really don't mind how many people disagree with me. i still think he
is a very good singer.
sorry, i dont understand what do you mean by "keeps going on about his
YOUTH".
>
> BTW .. Vivian's conecrt where she sang live was really very good ...
quite possibly.
Ken
>agree with you again!
i do not agree.. it's how much hype your agents can generate and how pretty you are....
WONG WOON KIAT
I think Andy's songs is awkward !
lenglui ;)
>
> These folks have talent. Sure others may be able to sing better but do
> they have the same combined features to give them the edge? Nope.
>
waht combined features that gives them WHAT edge? i see no hint of any
edge in gong hei mun and that lady...her name keeps escaping me..the vp of
fitto...who keeps promoting herself, the big ham.
>
> >and when you see leslie and priscilla being worshipped for their returns
> >when all they truthfully have done is profit financially from such an
> >actiona and then barely throw ANY effort into their singing,....you know
> >something is wrong...
>
>
> Well to a lot of people, they are still great. And there is nothing
> wrong.
i was merely commenting that they are getting more credit than they should
deserve. i don't see ANY effort...they WERE great. i won't and can't deny
that....but can't bring myself to like them anymore. if YOU think they are
still awesome and great...*hands in the air* whatever makes you happy.
>
>
> She is incredibly talented. She didn't become popular just be sitting
> around. Again there is nothing wrong with this.
>
how about just lying there? no, that was mean, i take it back. altho we DO
know that that happens with SOME people. either way. will you just admit
some people get PONG? for many celebrities...talent has nothing to do with
anything....look at tvb giving Ho Yuin Ying a shot for two seasons...and
look at the two unbearable insufferable seasons that we had to deal
with...*nasal voice* hok yup joi hok...sui yuin yee fong hei nei dik
oi...teen tsee doh ngo tse hak...sui ling dong leen mei been goi...
> >and when you see all those out there who could easily out-sing andy lau or
> >whomever, but have NO recognition whatsoever, you know something is wrong.
>
> Like I said previously....these others may sing better, but do they
> have the same features in a head to head comparison? - Dancing,
> character, communications skills, gift for entertaining large crowds for
> long periods of time? etc...
i know these characteristics you listed are not referring to andy lau.
i think it's jsut as simple as that that tvb favors him to others. that's
all.
>
>
> >and when you think about how all these years, jackky has never received a
> >single "most accepted male singer" when ANDY of all people has numerous
> >times, you know something is wrong.
>
>
> Why should there be anything wrong with that? That's just the vote of
> the public isn't it? - fair and square.
>
WHAT?!?!?!? did i just read somebody referring to the jsg contest as a
vote of public and being fair and square?!?!?!?!?....if THAT is how you
are going to take your stand...then i don't even want to engage anymore
into this conversation.
> >face it, tvb is just a stupid facade. they choose what to do and how to
> >do and who to do it with. take that comment as far-fetched as you like. i
> >think it all applies no matter what way you saw that comment as.
i stand strongly by this still.
> I hope I've given you some other ideas to thinking about first.
*cough* uhh, thanks.
lenglui ;)
> Regarding the vice-preident thing Is she the one who sang "Tao Sin" ?? If
> she is .. MMmm I must say the song sounds quite all-right. She is able to
> sing !
no idea...she is the one on all the videos of fitto with the MOK JUI (mok
mouth)....and does dumb hand movements....and she has this one song where
she hurriedly mumbles "oh baby i love you can't you seeeeeeeee"
> Out sing Andy ?? Lots of poeple could do that Can't they ?? William So is
> just one that popped into my mind.
>
*snort* outsinging andy is easy as hell. anyone can do it. all my guy
friends here sing better than him when you hear them sing Juit mOng Dik
Siu Yong...or Tsun WIng YUInn.....anyhow. the thing this guy was
commenting on, however, was better relations. and the only relations HE
has is tvb. don't tell me andy can dance. as for William so...OF COURSE
....he can outsing almost ANYONE....
> The public may not be always right .. Surprisingly the general public
> listens to whatever the radio dishes out to them ..Sometimes Good singers
> and songs are left out from the station's playlist and thus the general
> public who's too lazy to explore other singers and songs will not know
> them.
i said as much in an earlier post....and i can also say that the public
misses out on a lot of good songs if they only rely on the radio stations
and tvb....
lenglui ;)
i never liked him as a celebrity or singer, altho i had to admit he was
dealt a few good songs...i never liked the Tsung Ngall DIk fong choi type
of stuff tho...more like the main track from teen luin...tsun wing
yuin...the main track from gui yun, and jui mong dik siu yong.
you like a song for a song, if it is written well, nice lyrics, good
producing and composing, plus a matching voice. you like the song. you
don't say...oooh it's andy, i hate it. or oooooh it's andy, i love it.l;
but i haven't liked his stuff much. in general, and i do not like his
celebrity image. same with vchow...i like winter romance, that's it.
however, as far as acting is concerned....i think it's the same with
songs...he HAS been dealt very good roles...however, i rather he stay
actor than singer if i had the choice anyway.l i think he's better suited
for it.
lenglui ;)
On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, Nicholas wrote:
> Everyone can sing. It's just the matter if he/she can sing well. And of
> course Andy can sing well. No doubt about it!! His songs are suitable to
> him. If you think you can sing better than Andy...you would have been the
> top male star by now.
>
> a...@aa.net
>
> --
> I'm a simple Mac user.
>
well, ther are also those who rather do stuff like get an education. and
get a real job. and not face that sort of business...then, there are those
who rather create, than to project. being good has NOTHING to do with it.m
there' also choice, connections, relations....like Leo kOO, GOtta admit
he was pretty smart in settin up his relations...
Holy Shit!
any one watch Shanghai Grand ?
kanna sai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Andy Lau's singing is really like shit
yet so many idiots want to vote him in
they don't know they are committing a bloody big sin
Andy Lau sing shit they also sing.
HOLY SHIT!
HK STAR
To me, Andy Lau will always be the best. He's MULTI-TALENTED. Andy is a
real sweetheart and what a GUY!! He works hard, spends his time doing
charity work and at least he RESPECTS his fans. Andy Lau is definitely one
of the kind. I don't think we can find any STAR like him. I'll continue
supporting him and thanx for the MEMORIES Andy. Luv ya!!
Falling in love with Andy...
*bewitched*
On 2 Sep 1996, Nicole Ong wrote:
> Another agreement. Stephen Chow movies suck!!!! I proclaim to the world.
> Don't why ppl actually pay good $$$ to watch him, and then try to defend
> themselves when I diss them about it. They mainly have nothing to say after I
> say his movies are sh**! :=P
hmm... so you're saying that you saw his movies for free? i mean how else
would you know his movies suck unless you watched them.
????? ?????
???????? ???????? Q: this is a heart of ...
???????????????????
??????????????????? a.stone (cold!) f.all of the above
????????????????? b.fire (hot!) g.none of the above
??????????????? c.flowers (sweet!)
??????????? d.chocolate (yum!)
??????? e.$money$ (oooh!)
???
? *suir ling nei sum chee*
lan O:)
*bewitched*
On 2 Sep 1996, S.L.M wrote:
> there.. its the "MOST popular singer " awards that's up for grabs. Andy is
> certainly getting them cuz there's hordes of 'enthusiastic' fans casting
> their votes for him. But if you were to include " Best vocalist"... not a
> chance in hell will he be getting them! he sings like a "hokkien lung"
what the hell is a hokkien lung?
Germain Wong
a...@aa.net (HK STAR) wrote:
>To me, Andy Lau will always be the best. He's MULTI-TALENTED. Andy is a
>real sweetheart and what a GUY!! He works hard, spends his time doing
>charity work and at least he RESPECTS his fans. Andy Lau is definitely one
>of the kind. I don't think we can find any STAR like him. I'll continue
>supporting him and thanx for the MEMORIES Andy. Luv ya!!
Ok, so he may be a nice guy and all.... but HE
STILL CAN'T SING FOR SHITS!!!!!!
I always wonder.. how can a guy with his pathetic
voice get so far..... This is a strange world.
I guess good looks does help.
Wendy
Of course he can!
Wendy
Ku Chee Chiang William
wrote:
> Please lah! Andy is neither good looking nor can he sing.
> As you say, this is a strange world. How can people like
> andy gets so far!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >He sure is a good actor and for his singing, it gets better everytime,
isn't it?
GoodOld Uncle Lam
ZhiX (zh...@mailhost.net) wrote:
: > >and you know when vchow is made to be like such a QUEEN of singing, you
: > >definitely know something is wrong.
: > She is incredibly talented. She didn't become popular just be sitting
: > around. Again there is nothing wrong with this.
: I totally agree with you ! I mean lotsa people just judge Vivian based
: her looks They just say she's a pretty face without talents BUT if they've
: taken some trouble just to listen to her albums They'll see that She's
: talented as well.
I listened to her albums, hmm... Yep, I know what you mean -- she
wrote the songs, penned the lyrics, and for good measures -- played the
songs as well. Other singers like Faye, Wong Chau Sang, and Sam Hui, etc.,
they never do that. Vivian is very talented. So many genuine musicians
are envious of her enormous talent.
: > >and when you see all those out there who could easily out-sing andy lau
: or
: > >whomever, but have NO recognition whatsoever, you know something is
: wrong.
: > Like I said previously....these others may sing better, but do they
: > have the same features in a head to head comparison? - Dancing,
: > character, communications skills, gift for entertaining large crowds for
: > long periods of time? etc...
: Out sing Andy ?? Lots of poeple could do that Can't they ?? William So
: is just one that popped into my mind.
Yeah, that may be true... but doesn William So has the same head to
toe features and dancing, smiling, posing, gigoloing talent as Andy?
Think of Vivian Chow, and you'll understand.
: > >and when you think about how all these years, jackky has never received
: a
: > >single "most accepted male singer" when ANDY of all people has numerous
: > >times, you know something is wrong.
: > Why should there be anything wrong with that? That's just the vote of
: > the public isn't it? - fair and square.
: The public may not be always right .. Surprisingly the general public
: listens to whatever the radio dishes out to them ..Sometimes Good singers
: and songs are left out from the station's playlist and thus the general
: public who's too lazy to explore other singers and songs will not know
: them.
:
A very good comment about the HK market (no sarcasm here).
--Alvin
GoodOld Uncle Lam
Kenneth Leong (eng-...@jcu.edu.au) wrote:
: "lenglui ;)" <mt...@gl.umbc.edu> writes:
: >> Andy Lau has a more pleasant kind of voice. Anyhow, they're all good,
: >> otherwise they wouldn't be there.
Agreed. Like we are all good and well behaved students, otherwise, we
wouldn't be here (school) right?
: >> Kenny L.
: >>
: >excuse me. whoa, i beg to differ. the " they're all good, otherwise they
: >wouldn't be there." statement is definitely...*shakes head* no. GOOD
: >has absolutely nothing to do with the entertainment circle anymore.
: >when you start seeing people like GOng HEi mUn and the what's her name
: >vice-president from fitto, you know something is wrong...
: These folks have talent. Sure others may be able to sing better but do
: they have the same combined features to give them the edge? Nope.
Yes, we all know how talented Lily Lee is.
: >and when you see leslie and priscilla being worshipped for their returns
: >when all they truthfully have done is profit financially from such an
: >actiona and then barely throw ANY effort into their singing,....you know
: >something is wrong...
: Well to a lot of people, they are still great. And there is nothing
: wrong.
Of course there's nothing wrong. As a matter of fact, Leslie's
wonderful rendition of Janet Jackson's "Miss You Much" is what convinced
me that he is one of the finest singer. I hope all JJ's fans hear his
version so they'll die laughing.
: >and you know when vchow is made to be like such a QUEEN of singing, you
: >definitely know something is wrong.
: She is incredibly talented. She didn't become popular just be sitting
: around. Again there is nothing wrong with this.
Well yes, she didn't sit around -- but she did spend a lot time
lying on her back. There's nothing wrong with this, I'm a very open
minded person.
: >and when you see all those out there who could easily out-sing andy lau or
: >whomever, but have NO recognition whatsoever, you know something is wrong.
: Like I said previously....these others may sing better, but do they
: have the same features in a head to head comparison? - Dancing,
: character, communications skills, gift for entertaining large crowds for
: long periods of time? etc...
...Not to mention ass kissing, shoe shinning, butt licking,
the generousity of being "bowed" by some rich guy/woman, and the muscle
durability to smile for a long period of time without showing a trace of
boredom (the last I especially admire).
: >and when you think about how all these years, jackky has never received a
: >single "most accepted male singer" when ANDY of all people has numerous
: >times, you know something is wrong.
: Why should there be anything wrong with that? That's just the vote of
: the public isn't it? - fair and square.
The vote of TVB and the entertainment industry -- fair and square
and FINAL!
: >face it, tvb is just a stupid facade. they choose what to do and how to
: >do and who to do it with. take that comment as far-fetched as you like. i
: >think it all applies no matter what way you saw that comment as.
And you wonder why Beyond said the heck with TVB and joined ATV.
: > maymay
: I hope I've given you some other ideas to thinking about first.
I think the original author was looking for NEW ideas.
--Alvin
Ken
wang swee liang
With reference to your qustion, of course he can sing!. Although his voice
is a bit quite hoarse, I feel his songs contain a certain kind of deep
feeling.
Of course he can sing --- if not how come he has a lot of fans.....
Ng Chin Chin
Though different people may have different views, I definitely think that
Andy Lau can sing. Especially after watching both his concerts in
Singapore this year & comparing them to his first concert in Singapore in
1991, I think he has made tremendous efforts in improving his singing
skills. Thus, this shows his sincerity.
AL is definitely not the best, but give him time, he will work his way to
be one of the best.
regards...
chin chin
*bewitched*
On 6 Sep 1996, GoodOld Uncle Lam wrote:
> Of course there's nothing wrong. As a matter of fact, Leslie's
> wonderful rendition of Janet Jackson's "Miss You Much" is what convinced
> me that he is one of the finest singer. I hope all JJ's fans hear his
> version so they'll die laughing.
mut ley gum huck sum ga. jau yun they saye doe yau geh. just because she
hasn't had an album in ages, there is no need to chai her d fans. :p
> Well yes, she didn't sit around -- but she did spend a lot time
> lying on her back. There's nothing wrong with this, I'm a very open
> minded person.
of course, there is nothing wrong w/ practicing ... singing, on her back.
good for the vocal cords.
> ...Not to mention ass kissing, shoe shinning, butt licking,
> the generousity of being "bowed" by some rich guy/woman, and the muscle
> durability to smile for a long period of time without showing a trace of
> boredom (the last I especially admire).
hmm... and i always thought ass kissing, shoe shining, and butt licking
were all the same thing.
*bewitched*
On 6 Sep 1996, GoodOld Uncle Lam wrote:
> : Out sing Andy ?? Lots of poeple could do that Can't they ?? William So
> : is just one that popped into my mind.
>
> Yeah, that may be true... but doesn William So has the same head to
> toe features and dancing, smiling, posing, gigoloing talent as Andy?
> Think of Vivian Chow, and you'll understand.
maybe if he gets a haircut, some contacs, keeps practicing (dancing, smiling
and posing), and keeps wearing those 50's tight shirts that we(the girls) all
love. still won't look as good as andy but nothing wrong w/ trying. as
for the gigoloing talent, he may need to ask for some professional
pointers. :)
GoodOld Uncle Lam
*bewitched* (lan...@taurus.oac.uci.edu) wrote:
: On 6 Sep 1996, GoodOld Uncle Lam wrote:
: > Of course there's nothing wrong. As a matter of fact, Leslie's
: > wonderful rendition of Janet Jackson's "Miss You Much" is what convinced
: > me that he is one of the finest singer. I hope all JJ's fans hear his
: > version so they'll die laughing.
: mut ley gum huck sum ga. jau yun they saye doe yau geh. just because she
: hasn't had an album in ages, there is no need to chai her d fans. :p
I wasn't trying to chai JJ's fans. I just thought if anyone of them
want to enter the eternal realm happy and with a big smile on his/her
face, Leslie's "Miss You Much" will do the trick nicely.
: > Well yes, she didn't sit around -- but she did spend a lot time
: > lying on her back. There's nothing wrong with this, I'm a very open
: > minded person.
: of course, there is nothing wrong w/ practicing ... singing, on her back.
: good for the vocal cords.
...Not to mention her career.
: > ...Not to mention ass kissing, shoe shinning, butt licking,
: > the generousity of being "bowed" by some rich guy/woman, and the muscle
: > durability to smile for a long period of time without showing a trace of
: > boredom (the last I especially admire).
: hmm... and i always thought ass kissing, shoe shining, and butt licking
: were all the same thing.
That's why you are not on the cover of some best selling CDs and
they are! On the bright side though, you still have your dignity.
--Alvin
: ????? ?????
Kenneth Leong
sac5...@saclink3.csus.edu (GoodOld Uncle Lam) writes:
>Kenneth Leong (eng-...@jcu.edu.au) wrote:
>: "lenglui ;)" <mt...@gl.umbc.edu> writes:
>: >> Andy Lau has a more pleasant kind of voice. Anyhow, they're all good,
>: >> otherwise they wouldn't be there.
> Agreed. Like we are all good and well behaved students, otherwise, we
>wouldn't be here (school) right?
What - are we on the same wavelength?? What has this got to do with
students in a school? What grade up are by the way? I think you should
not speak until you have enough sense to have a proper conversation. A
bit more years up the sleeve perhaps?
>: >excuse me. whoa, i beg to differ. the " they're all good, otherwise they
>: >wouldn't be there." statement is definitely...*shakes head* no. GOOD
>: >has absolutely nothing to do with the entertainment circle anymore.
>: >when you start seeing people like GOng HEi mUn and the what's her name
>: >vice-president from fitto, you know something is wrong...
>: These folks have talent. Sure others may be able to sing better but do
>: they have the same combined features to give them the edge? Nope.
> Yes, we all know how talented Lily Lee is.
Spoken very unwisely. How long did it take to scrounge the bin for his
one?
>: >and when you see leslie and priscilla being worshipped for their returns
>: >when all they truthfully have done is profit financially from such an
>: >actiona and then barely throw ANY effort into their singing,....you know
>: >something is wrong...
>: Well to a lot of people, they are still great. And there is nothing
>: wrong.
> Of course there's nothing wrong. As a matter of fact, Leslie's
>wonderful rendition of Janet Jackson's "Miss You Much" is what convinced
>me that he is one of the finest singer. I hope all JJ's fans hear his
>version so they'll die laughing.
Unfortunately...a big portion of Janet Jackson's don't understand
cantonese so no point in bringing this up is it?
>: >and you know when vchow is made to be like such a QUEEN of singing, you
>: >definitely know something is wrong.
>: She is incredibly talented. She didn't become popular just be sitting
>: around. Again there is nothing wrong with this.
> Well yes, she didn't sit around -- but she did spend a lot time
>lying on her back. There's nothing wrong with this, I'm a very open
>minded person.
Well you certainly demonstrate very open mindedness with a lot of
evacuated space in the head cavity from this kind of comment. Typical
kind of comment from such type.
>: >and when you see all those out there who could easily out-sing andy lau or
>: >whomever, but have NO recognition whatsoever, you know something is wrong.
>: Like I said previously....these others may sing better, but do they
>: have the same features in a head to head comparison? - Dancing,
>: character, communications skills, gift for entertaining large crowds for
>: long periods of time? etc...
> ...Not to mention ass kissing, shoe shinning, butt licking,
>the generousity of being "bowed" by some rich guy/woman, and the muscle
>durability to smile for a long period of time without showing a trace of
>boredom (the last I especially admire).
Again, typical words from somebody who seems like they were brought up
in a muddy pen.
>: >and when you think about how all these years, jackky has never received a
>: >single "most accepted male singer" when ANDY of all people has numerous
>: >times, you know something is wrong.
>: Why should there be anything wrong with that? That's just the vote of
>: the public isn't it? - fair and square.
> The vote of TVB and the entertainment industry -- fair and square
>and FINAL!
>: >face it, tvb is just a stupid facade. they choose what to do and how to
>: >do and who to do it with. take that comment as far-fetched as you like. i
>: >think it all applies no matter what way you saw that comment as.
> And you wonder why Beyond said the heck with TVB and joined ATV.
Again, another good scrounge around the bin eh?
>: I hope I've given you some other ideas to thinking about first.
> I think the original author was looking for NEW ideas.
You just successfully proved that what you think isn't worthy of respect.
No point in generating NEW but STUPID ideas. A waste of time.
>--Alvin
Kenny
--
Kenny Leong
email: Kennet...@marlin.jcu.edu.au
ics...@cyberway.com.sg
Not only his song louzy..
The movie also louzy +++
Andy Lau "Suck"
Anson Chu
I don't think Andy can sing actually ! Apart from his voice is
hoarsey, i feel that he doesn't has any skill on singing, his songs
are good but they're all wasted ! Think he as a actor is ok !
Ng Chin Chin
I guess different people have different views, but after watching both his
concerts in Singapore this year and comparing to his first concert here in
1991, I must agree that his singing skills has indeed improved.
Andy Lau is definitely not the best singer out there, there are many more
singers that are better than him. But as time goes by, I think he has the
talent to make his way to be one of the best.
Another thing, I don't think it is constructive or fair to say that a
singer sucks, is lousy, the singer's attitude piss me off, etc just becoz
one doesn't like the singer. If you have started listening to the singer's
first album right upto the latest, then maybe you are qualified to critise
the singer, but subjected that you give constructive critisms; like "this
particular song is not suitable for his/her vocal" etc.
Imagine if you are in the singer's shoes and he/she sees this. How would
u feel? Do u think it will help him/her to change and make improvements? I
don't think so. Personally, I feel that one should view things at
different angles and be more subjective. It really doesn't help to make
personal attacks.
Chin Chin
Kenneth Leong
Germain Wong <gew...@po.pacific.net.sg> writes:
>a...@aa.net (HK STAR) wrote:
>>To me, Andy Lau will always be the best. He's MULTI-TALENTED. Andy is a
>>real sweetheart and what a GUY!! He works hard, spends his time doing
>>charity work and at least he RESPECTS his fans. Andy Lau is definitely one
>>of the kind. I don't think we can find any STAR like him. I'll continue
>>supporting him and thanx for the MEMORIES Andy. Luv ya!!
>Ok, so he may be a nice guy and all.... but HE
>STILL CAN'T SING FOR SHITS!!!!!!
>I always wonder.. how can a guy with his pathetic
>voice get so far..... This is a strange world.
>I guess good looks does help.
Also maybe because your opinion is questionable?
Kenny L.
Kenneth Leong
anso...@enterprise.net (Anson Chu) writes:
You don't think? What nonsense. So he sings in front of you on TV and
things like that and you say that he can't sing? So if I stand in front
of you and see that you are a person but I insist that you are a cat,
then would I be right? - even though you are clearly a person?
Kenneth Leong
"Holy Shit!" <feng@cyberway> writes:
> HOLY SHIT!
Yep, no wonder your name is HS. It clearly describes what comes out of
your mouth.
Kenneth Leong
ken...@singnet.com.sg (Ken) writes:
>Wendy <wend...@accsoft.com.au> wrote:
>>Of course he can!
>>Wendy
Yep, typical comment from somebody who makes comments which don't count.
GoodOld Uncle Lam
Distribution:
Kenneth Leong (eng-...@jcu.edu.au) wrote:
: sac5...@saclink3.csus.edu (GoodOld Uncle Lam) writes:
: >Kenneth Leong (eng-...@jcu.edu.au) wrote:
: >: "lenglui ;)" <mt...@gl.umbc.edu> writes:
: >: >> Andy Lau has a more pleasant kind of voice. Anyhow, they're all good,
: >: >> otherwise they wouldn't be there.
: > Agreed. Like we are all good and well behaved students, otherwise, we
: >wouldn't be here (school) right?
: What - are we on the same wavelength?? What has this got to do with
: students in a school? What grade up are by the way? I think you should
: not speak until you have enough sense to have a proper conversation. A
: bit more years up the sleeve perhaps?
I was referring to your 'brilliant' comment, "they're all good,
otherwise they wouldn't be there (located 11 lines above)." Think about
what you said, then think again about what I wrote; and if you still
don't get it, you have my sympathy.
: >: These folks have talent. Sure others may be able to sing better but do
: >: they have the same combined features to give them the edge? Nope.
: > Yes, we all know how talented Lily Lee is.
: Spoken very unwisely. How long did it take to scrounge the bin for his
: one?
Don't be bitter. If I offended your idol, I apologize.
: >: >and when you see leslie and priscilla being worshipped for their returns
: >: >when all they truthfully have done is profit financially from such an
: >: >actiona and then barely throw ANY effort into their singing,....you know
: >: >something is wrong...
: >: Well to a lot of people, they are still great. And there is nothing
: >: wrong.
: > Of course there's nothing wrong. As a matter of fact, Leslie's
: >wonderful rendition of Janet Jackson's "Miss You Much" is what convinced
: >me that he is one of the finest singer. I hope all JJ's fans hear his
: >version so they'll die laughing.
: Unfortunately...a big portion of Janet Jackson's don't understand
: cantonese so no point in bringing this up is it?
I was talking about his singing, NOT the lyrics, smartguy. But
anyway, you may be right, I shouldn't use a metaphor that this particular
reader is not bright enough to understand.
: >: >and you know when vchow is made to be like such a QUEEN of singing, you
: >: >definitely know something is wrong.
: >: She is incredibly talented. She didn't become popular just be sitting
: >: around. Again there is nothing wrong with this.
: > Well yes, she didn't sit around -- but she did spend a lot time
: >lying on her back. There's nothing wrong with this, I'm a very open
: >minded person.
: Well you certainly demonstrate very open mindedness with a lot of
: evacuated space in the head cavity from this kind of comment. Typical
: kind of comment from such type.
At least I'm objective enough not to say what you said in your
last sentence. I'd not so ignorant to presume a person to be a
certain type with only limited amount of posts to make a judgement on.
The same of which, sadly, cannot be said about you.
: >: >and when you see all those out there who could easily out-sing andy lau
: >: >whomever, but have NO recognition whatsoever, you know something is
: >: >wrong.
: >: Like I said previously....these others may sing better, but do they
: >: have the same features in a head to head comparison? - Dancing,
: >: character, communications skills, gift for entertaining large crowds for
: >: long periods of time? etc...
: > ...Not to mention ass kissing, shoe shinning, butt licking,
: >the generousity of being "bowed" by some rich guy/woman, and the muscle
: >durability to smile for a long period of time without showing a trace of
: >boredom (the last I especially admire).
: Again, typical words from somebody who seems like they were brought up
: in a muddy pen.
So, what's WRONG with being brought up in a muddy pen?!
You self-ignorant, self-righteous, reminisce of a one-sided know-it-all
who can't accept people with different opinions than yours. I was
posting in relation to the topic and the discussion, and what did you
do?... You turned it into a personal flame war with no relation to the
original discussion and everything to do with hostility and bad intent.
Personally, I don't mind flames, I have engaged enough to know between
the weak and the meek (and there's indication you belong to the former);
but I lost all respect for you -- you hypocritically suggest I need
practice on my conversation skill and here you are directing all my
dialogues into nasty put-downs directed right at ME!! I suggest you
follow your own advice and sharpen your conversation (and while you're
at it, your analytical skill)
before attempting another "thoughtful" discussion with anyone or thing.
: >: >face it, tvb is just a stupid facade. they choose what to do and how to
: >: >do and who to do it with. take that comment as far-fetched as you like.
: >: >think it all applies no matter what way you saw that comment as.
: > And you wonder why Beyond said the heck with TVB and joined ATV.
: Again, another good scrounge around the bin eh?
Again, another trite flame that adds nothing to the discussion,
its sole intend is to put-down the previous writer -- me. If you think
there's no point in generating NEW but STUPID ideas, then why did you bring
forth an OLD and USELESS idea?!
: >: I hope I've given you some other ideas to thinking about first.
: > I think the original author was looking for NEW ideas.
: You just successfully proved that what you think isn't worthy of respect.
My perception is not a popular one. It goes against the norm of
HK pop culture, and that may make some people uncomfortable, I know. So you
should realize by now that I DON'T want your respect, I could
care less. People who want respect act like you -- go with the norm, put
down people to raise themselves, etc, etc.
: No point in generating NEW but STUPID ideas. A waste of time.
When I post my comments, I know I am subjected to flames by
people who couldn't rebut my analogy. So flame on if you like, it only
shows that my analysis cannot be rebutted and disagreer has to resort to
flames to silence them. Besides, if you think they are such a waste of
time, why did you reply?
GoodOld Uncle Lam
Kenneth Leong (eng-...@jcu.edu.au) wrote:
: anso...@enterprise.net (Anson Chu) writes:
So, just because Andy sings on the TV screen that is located right in
front of me MEANS that he CAN sing? Rosanne Barr sang the US anthem in
front of millions of people and I assure you, the majority of the audience
DON'T THINK she can sing.
BTW, you can't seem to distinguish the difference between objective
and subjective matters. If you stand in front of a person and insist
that he/she is a cat, then you wouldn't be right -- you would be demanded.
However, if you stand in front of that same person and insist that he/she
can sing/cannot sing, then no one can say whether you're right or wrong
because that would be a subjective matter. Get it? I hope you do, but I
doubted ("I doubted" is also a subjective matter unalterable to outside
opinions; so, you're out of luck there if you want to flame me on this.
Advice -- debate on the issue... for once.)
--Alvin
: Kenny L.
Eric Si-tat Tong
Absolutely agree!! If we all out here be a little bit more objective and
considerate, we can all enjoy the newsgroup to share information much
better. Being one of the fans of an artist should not blindedly support
his/her idol. Being objective and giving positive critism is surely a much
better way to support one's idol and to motivate him/her to improve. I
surely understands that everyone has the right to speak out, but I believe
that Freedom of Speech doesn't imply rights to hurt others. Try keeping
just to yourself when you hate some artists out there, because that way we
can avoid a lot of flame here.
People are saying how lousy or horsey Andy Lau's voice is, I personally
agree that he doesn't have a very nice voice. But Jacky Cheung doesn't have
a nice and crystal voice like Hacken or Jeff Chang ...etc does, Jacky still
performs wonderfully darn good. Nice voice does contribute to the outcome,
but one with imperfect voice doesn't mean he/she can't sing well. What do
you think about Yip Tak Han or Danny Summer ??
Just my two cents.
et
Ng Chin Chin <ngch...@iscs.nus.sg> wrote in article
<50uhi9$7...@nuscc.nus.sg>...
*bewitched*
On 6 Sep 1996, GoodOld Uncle Lam wrote:
> : mut ley gum huck sum ga. jau yun they saye doe yau geh. just because she
> : hasn't had an album in ages, there is no need to chai her d fans. :p
>
> I wasn't trying to chai JJ's fans. I just thought if anyone of them
> want to enter the eternal realm happy and with a big smile on his/her
> face, Leslie's "Miss You Much" will do the trick nicely.
ya know, alvin, sometimes we can be so sarcastic that some people totally
miss it. i admit sometimes i don't even know which of your words are jun and
which are ga. :)
> : > Well yes, she didn't sit around -- but she did spend a lot time
> : > lying on her back. There's nothing wrong with this, I'm a very open
> : > minded person.
>
> : of course, there is nothing wrong w/ practicing ... singing, on her back.
> : good for the vocal cords.
>
> ...Not to mention her career.
yes, yes, practice does make perfect.(sometimes)
> : > ...Not to mention ass kissing, shoe shinning, butt licking,
> : > the generousity of being "bowed" by some rich guy/woman, and the muscle
> : > durability to smile for a long period of time without showing a trace of
> : > boredom (the last I especially admire).
>
> : hmm... and i always thought ass kissing, shoe shining, and butt licking
> : were all the same thing.
>
> That's why you are not on the cover of some best selling CDs and
> they are! On the bright side though, you still have your dignity.
hell w/ dignity, i wanna be on the cover of the cds instead.
*bewitched*
some people suck, while others slurp. no need to judge. :)
*bewitched*
who's danny summer?
<> GEM <>
On 3 Sep 1996, WONG WOON KIAT wrote:
>
>
> I think Andy's songs is awkward !
>
>
I think you talk awkwardly !
lenglui ;)
On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, *bewitched* wrote:
>
> maybe if he gets a haircut, some contacs, keeps practicing (dancing, smiling
> and posing), and keeps wearing those 50's tight shirts that we(the girls) all
> love. still won't look as good as andy but nothing wrong w/ trying. as
> for the gigoloing talent, he may need to ask for some professional
> pointers. :)
>
i'm sure if he wanted to be popular, all he had to do was sing mainstream
and kiss a lot of ass....and diddle over connections and hold wonderful
relationships with upperhand ppl as some certain people has done. if TVB
wants someone to be popular then dammit they will be. but instead So Wing
HOng has stuck to his jazz instinct, which i love and respect and stand
for as well as support. Have you heard his Mong Diu Nei from Oh Gal? that
is enuf to make me swoon and not care about his looks or his damn glasses.
it just depends on how one looks at things...i mean sheesh. ok, andy maybe
somewhat at an advantage with physical attributes...but remember the one
musical show where So Wing Hong acted as an evil gangster and sang a part
that was sorta like the song from West Side STory? if anyone can sing that
powerfully and brilliantly, it is only William SO.
i wish Ko Chi SUm would get HIM for that musical too... *pout*
lenglui
http://gl.umbc.edu/~mtam3
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<> GEM <>
Hey, famous people are allowed to have attitudes, Should've they feel
proud to have come so far? And acting humble would be insincere. :P
lenglui ;)
well, obviously somebody likes andy? i've been catching up on reading, and
it seems a certain person is picking out all the andy lau topics and
stepping and retorting at those with just a slight negative tone and
thanking and praising those who feel otherwise.
i don't think alvin deserved all the insults that you tried to impose.
you can say one appeals to you...but it's sorta low in my opinion to say
someone is dirt for NOT liking your sh*t...
maymay
MELISSA CHANG
In <eng-ktml....@reef.cs.jcu.edu.au> eng-...@jcu.edu.au (Kenneth
are some people who thinks he can't sing for shit but that's only their
opinion. Personally, I think he can sing very well. You know who has a
worse voice if you think Andy can't sing? Try Aaron Kwok. He has
improved a great deal, I'll give him that much. But Aaron is still the
finest guy and I love him to death but he can't sing all that well.
He's better at singing Canto than Mandarin!
melissa
MELISSA CHANG
In <01bb9e5f$0ce470c0$7e05...@sushi.cwcinc.com> "Eric Si-tat Tong"
I have to agree with whoever wrote that we should be a little more
subjective. I would hate to be Andy and read all these insults about
him. We should give a little more constructive criticism. And to
whoever wrote that Jacky Cheung can't sing, you are the only person I
have ever heard say he can't sing. Of, all the people I know thinks he
can sing wonderfully. I want to know, who do you think CAN sing? I sure
know that Jacky is one of the best singers there is.
melissa
Kenneth Leong
sac5...@saclink2.csus.edu (GoodOld Uncle Lam) writes:
>Kenneth Leong (eng-...@jcu.edu.au) wrote:
>: anso...@enterprise.net (Anson Chu) writes:
>: You don't think? What nonsense. So he sings in front of you on TV and
>: things like that and you say that he can't sing? So if I stand in front
>: of you and see that you are a person but I insist that you are a cat,
>: then would I be right? - even though you are clearly a person?
> So, just because Andy sings on the TV screen that is located right in
>front of me MEANS that he CAN sing? Rosanne Barr sang the US anthem in
>front of millions of people and I assure you, the majority of the audience
>DON'T THINK she can sing.
So did you get a large sample of this audience to vote about whether
this lady could sing or not? If you did, could you please list where you
published your findings? If not, then how can you assure anybody of what
you say is worthy of accepting?
> BTW, you can't seem to distinguish the difference between objective
>and subjective matters. If you stand in front of a person and insist
>that he/she is a cat, then you wouldn't be right -- you would be demanded.
Exactly....that's what I was aiming to show....I was aiming to show that
you and the other person cannot make rational assumptions despite having
the facts plainly laid out in front of you. It is clear and obvious that
andy can sing very well....which is shown both objectively as well as
subjectively. Now the case with the cat....objectively it's a cat.
Subjectively it should be a cat. If I say otherwise then I would be like
you and the other guy.....clearly and deliberately going against the
grain.
>However, if you stand in front of that same person and insist that he/she
>can sing/cannot sing, then no one can say whether you're right or wrong
>because that would be a subjective matter. Get it? I hope you do, but I
>doubted ("I doubted" is also a subjective matter unalterable to outside
>opinions; so, you're out of luck there if you want to flame me on this.
>Advice -- debate on the issue... for once.)
Good try Alvin, but not good enough. So you are saying that you are
better than the fans in opinion? This would be an insult to the fans.
So far the evidence is all there that andy can sing. There are the
fans as well. What have you got to show for? Nothing I suppose.
>--Alvin