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Yaj Tshaj Koob
Nov 17, 2012, 7:07:09 AM11/17/12
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On Saturday, November 17, 2012 2:30:07 AM UTC-6, lisce...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Cov phooj ywg sawv daws,
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> Thaum peb nyob tim thaib teb thiab nplog teb mas muaj cov hmoob mob tsuas coob kawg. Txij li thaum peb tuaj rau teb chaws no lawm, kuj tsis paub tias cov hmoob mob tsuas khiav mus nyob coob rau lub zos twg tas lawm.
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> Xav nug nej me ntsis tias hmoob mob tsuas no es lub aas kim yog hais li cas. Kab mob tsuas no es nws ho yog hom kab mob dab tsis, thiab tshwm sim qhov twg los tiag tiag.
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> Puas yuav muaj ib yam tshuaj los kho tau thiab? Raws li hnov xwb mas nws yuav yog ib yam kab mob uas yuav kis zuj zus mus lawm xwb. Qhov no puas muaj tseeb?
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Twb hais lus Hmoob dawb tsi meej li los xij yuav hais tas zog li os, pom leej twg hu ua Hmoob mob tsuas no maj, kuv hnov Hmoob hu ua Hmoob mob rua, los sis tia Mob Ruas no, tsuas yog co Moob sib qee pab thiaj hais lus tsi meej es hais li koj hais tias mob tsuas li ntawd.
YTK
> Cov phooj ywg sawv daws,
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> Thaum peb nyob tim thaib teb thiab nplog teb mas muaj cov hmoob mob tsuas coob kawg. Txij li thaum peb tuaj rau teb chaws no lawm, kuj tsis paub tias cov hmoob mob tsuas khiav mus nyob coob rau lub zos twg tas lawm.
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> Xav nug nej me ntsis tias hmoob mob tsuas no es lub aas kim yog hais li cas. Kab mob tsuas no es nws ho yog hom kab mob dab tsis, thiab tshwm sim qhov twg los tiag tiag.
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> Puas yuav muaj ib yam tshuaj los kho tau thiab? Raws li hnov xwb mas nws yuav yog ib yam kab mob uas yuav kis zuj zus mus lawm xwb. Qhov no puas muaj tseeb?
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Twb hais lus Hmoob dawb tsi meej li los xij yuav hais tas zog li os, pom leej twg hu ua Hmoob mob tsuas no maj, kuv hnov Hmoob hu ua Hmoob mob rua, los sis tia Mob Ruas no, tsuas yog co Moob sib qee pab thiaj hais lus tsi meej es hais li koj hais tias mob tsuas li ntawd.
YTK
Moghlub
Nov 17, 2012, 8:58:04 AM11/17/12
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Tej zag nwg tub yog Moob Sib es txhaj sau ntawv tsi meej los mas, YTK aw.... hahahahaha...
Cov Moob mov ruas kws tuaj rua teb chaws nua ces yeej tuaj nyob xyaw suav dlawg rua qhov txhua chaw le luas muas. Puab tuaj txug ces tsoomfwv muab tshuaj rua puab noj ces puab cov kaab mob tsi tuag tawm sis tsuag qhwv (qauj) tsi ua mivnyuas lawm. Dhlau 3 tam neeg ces puab zoo huv si lawm sub nua laiv.
Sim nug puab cov dlov tawm saib puas yog le has nuav?
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Cov Moob mov ruas kws tuaj rua teb chaws nua ces yeej tuaj nyob xyaw suav dlawg rua qhov txhua chaw le luas muas. Puab tuaj txug ces tsoomfwv muab tshuaj rua puab noj ces puab cov kaab mob tsi tuag tawm sis tsuag qhwv (qauj) tsi ua mivnyuas lawm. Dhlau 3 tam neeg ces puab zoo huv si lawm sub nua laiv.
Sim nug puab cov dlov tawm saib puas yog le has nuav?
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yaw...@rocketmail.com
Nov 17, 2012, 10:46:16 AM11/17/12
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Tseem tseem lug Moob tag mas has le nuav.
Tug lej 5 mas hu ua "tswb". Lub rib hauv ntsuab nrog mas txhaj hu ua "rib". Caaj nqos lab mas hu ua lub "nqom". Tug paas ntoo mas hu ua tug paam". Leej txiv mas hu ua "iv" Lub txiv ntoo mas txhaj hu ua "txiv" Raab rag mas hu ua "tsag". Tug rag qhov cug mas txhaj hu ua "rag". saum roob mas hu ua saum "tsoob" Mob rua mas hu ua mob "tsua". Lub rua mas txhaj hu ua "rua".
Cov lug kuv has mas yog tseem tseem lug Moob sib Moob Ntsuab ntaag nawb.
Tug lej 5 mas hu ua "tswb". Lub rib hauv ntsuab nrog mas txhaj hu ua "rib". Caaj nqos lab mas hu ua lub "nqom". Tug paas ntoo mas hu ua tug paam". Leej txiv mas hu ua "iv" Lub txiv ntoo mas txhaj hu ua "txiv" Raab rag mas hu ua "tsag". Tug rag qhov cug mas txhaj hu ua "rag". saum roob mas hu ua saum "tsoob" Mob rua mas hu ua mob "tsua". Lub rua mas txhaj hu ua "rua".
Cov lug kuv has mas yog tseem tseem lug Moob sib Moob Ntsuab ntaag nawb.
yah...@hotmail.com
Nov 17, 2012, 11:18:12 AM11/17/12
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has txug has meej/tsi meej....
kuv tsev neeg lug rua moospheeb 1880....yeej yog cov kws lug rua moospheeb ntxuv ntxuv lawd.
cov laug qha mas, peb moog sis tsoob...peb moog nce roob....moob mob rua...peb nce tsua....tsag lig xub....muab rag txav tawg...
muaj ib co, kuv tsi paub tas sov yog kawm hov twg lug, xij has tsi meej li. cov laug kag los yeej has tsi meej le...kuv xaaav tas tejzag yog puab tsi txawj siv puab cov nplaig xwb....qhov tseeb, puas has phiv lawm.
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kuv tsev neeg lug rua moospheeb 1880....yeej yog cov kws lug rua moospheeb ntxuv ntxuv lawd.
cov laug qha mas, peb moog sis tsoob...peb moog nce roob....moob mob rua...peb nce tsua....tsag lig xub....muab rag txav tawg...
muaj ib co, kuv tsi paub tas sov yog kawm hov twg lug, xij has tsi meej li. cov laug kag los yeej has tsi meej le...kuv xaaav tas tejzag yog puab tsi txawj siv puab cov nplaig xwb....qhov tseeb, puas has phiv lawm.
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DownUnder
Nov 19, 2012, 5:26:13 AM11/19/12
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Mob Ruas ... leprosy or Hansen's disease (HD), yog tim tus kabmob hu ua Mycobacterium leprae and Mycobacterium lepromatosis ua rau mob. Nws tsis yog tim noob li feem coob tseem ntseeg.
Thaum ub, Hmoob thiab neeg ntiaj teb (since Biblical time - See Ben Her movie) tsis paub txog cov mob no. Sawvdaws thiaj ntseeg tias mob ruas yog tim noob (genetic) vim sawvdwas observe over the years tias cov mob no mas pheej yog mob rau cov neeg ib tsev xwb. Tsis tag lino xwb, cov neeg mob ruas tau mag society muab lawm outcast los tau ntau 1000 xyoo.
Cov kabmob M. leprae no mas yog kis tau rau cov nyob ze-ze xwb, nyob ua ke vim cov kabmob sibkis los ntawd kev ua pa - respiratory droplets - yuav tsum yog nyob sib ze tiag tiag thiab yuav sib kis tau. Cov nyob deb li 2-3 meters lawm ces yeej ki tau nyuab lawm (same like catching the Flu or other viral respiratory tract infection).
Thaum muaj ib tug mob lawm, lawv cov members ib tsev neeg yuav yog cov saib-xyaus tus mob ntawd - closed personal contact es thiaj kim tau tus kabmob...
Tos Hmoob ntseeg tias yog tim noob mas vim tias cov kabmob no yuav tsum sib sijhawm ntev heev uas yuav tawm-sim ua tus mob tawm los. Feem ntau mas yuav tsum siv sijhawm txog li ntau-ntau xyoo mas tawm-sim - tej tug mas siv txog li 30 xyoo tom qab 9tau kis tus kabmob lawm) es mam pom kev mob 9the disease) tawm-siv los. Vim lino, yog ib tsev neeg muaj ib tug mob ruas lawm ces Hmoob yuav pom tias ib tiam mas yuav pom muaj li ib ob tug mob... ces Hmoob cia li ntau nqi tias yog tim noob (genetic) es sawvdaws thiaj tsis pub mus yuav tej members tsev neeg los ua nyab/vaus..
Tsis tag lino xwb, society tseem muab lawm faib mus nyob ua lawm ib luv zos, tsis pub los mix nrog the community at large... eg. nyob ze pem Hin Heup... Bam Somsanouk ect... los txog tim Ban Vinai.
Vim twb tsis yog tim noob, vim yog tim kabmob ua rau mob xwb, lino, peb yeej muaj tshuaj kho cov mob no tau kom zoo kiag. Qhov Hmoob pheej muab tsev neeg mob ruas faib ua cov NOOB HMOB RUAS" mas yog vim tias thaum lawm paub tias lawm mob lawm ces lawm twb muaj complications ntau yam lawm uas yus yuav noj tshuaj kom zoo kiag lawm los, tej complications ntawd tseem nyob li qub, ua rau sawvdaws tseem pom. Tejno, Hmoob thiaj tsis kam mus ze tej neeg mob ruas or tej tsev neeg mob ruas uas lawm yeej tau noj tshuaj, kho tau zoo lawm.
Thaum lawm tau noj tshuaj lawm, tom qab li 2-3 limpiam xwb, cov neeg mob ruas no twb tsis mauj cuab-kas yuav kis tau tus kabmob rau lwm tus lawm.
Lino, tej tsev neeg mob ruas uas thaum ub nyob rau ntuj qujqab, feem coob yeej tau kho zoo tag by cov missionary - lawv yeej zoo tag lawm. Niaj hnub no, cov neeg no yeej nyob nrog savwdaws ua ke, may be your Hmoob neighbour, tabsis nej tsis paub lawv lawm xwb.
Nyob tim USA....
As of October, 2005, 3,604 patients on the United States registry were currently receiving care - 166 new cases reported in the U.S. in 2005. Most (100 or 60%) of these new cases were reported in the following states; California, Louisiana, Massachusetts, New York, and Texas.
Tamsis no... here is the global fact:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprosy#Global_situation
Worldwide, two to three million people are estimated to be permanently disabled because of leprosy.[9] India has the greatest number of cases, with Brazil second and Myanmar third.
In 1999, the world incidence of Hansen's disease was estimated to be 640,000. In 2000, 738,284 cases were identified.[74] In 2000, the World Health Organization (WHO) listed 91 countries in which Hansen's disease is endemic. India, Burma, and Nepal contained 70% of cases. India reports over 50% of the world's leprosy cases.[75] In 2002, 763,917 new cases were detected worldwide, and in that year the WHO listed Brazil, Madagascar, Mozambique, Tanzania, and Nepal as having 90% of Hansen's disease cases.
According to recent figures from the WHO, new cases detected worldwide have decreased by approximately 107,000 cases (or 21%) from 2003 to 2004. This decreasing trend has been consistent for the past three years. In addition, the global registered prevalence of HD was 286,063 cases; 407,791 new cases were detected during 2004.
In the United States, the first definite reference to the disease was in Florida in 1758. In 2004, there were 131 total cases of the disease in the United States. Of the 131 cases, two-thirds were found to be males. Also out of the 131 cases, 25 were of individuals who were born in the country, which amounts to 19%. Mexico (18.3%), Micronesia (11.5%), Brazil (9.2%), and the Philippines (7.6%) were the next leading countries where the victims of the disease were originally born. A total of 20 cases were found to be white, not of Hispanic origin. As of October, 2005, 3,604 patients on the United States registry were currently receiving care.[76] The disease is tracked by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), with a total of 166 new cases reported in the U.S. in 2005. Most (100 or 60%) of these new cases were reported in the following states; California, Louisiana, Massachusetts, New York, and Texas.[29] Although the number of cases worldwide continues to fall, pockets of high prevalence continue in certain areas such as Brazil, South Asia (India, Nepal), some parts of Africa (Tanzania, Madagascar, Mozambique), and the western Pacific.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprosy
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Thaum ub, Hmoob thiab neeg ntiaj teb (since Biblical time - See Ben Her movie) tsis paub txog cov mob no. Sawvdaws thiaj ntseeg tias mob ruas yog tim noob (genetic) vim sawvdwas observe over the years tias cov mob no mas pheej yog mob rau cov neeg ib tsev xwb. Tsis tag lino xwb, cov neeg mob ruas tau mag society muab lawm outcast los tau ntau 1000 xyoo.
Cov kabmob M. leprae no mas yog kis tau rau cov nyob ze-ze xwb, nyob ua ke vim cov kabmob sibkis los ntawd kev ua pa - respiratory droplets - yuav tsum yog nyob sib ze tiag tiag thiab yuav sib kis tau. Cov nyob deb li 2-3 meters lawm ces yeej ki tau nyuab lawm (same like catching the Flu or other viral respiratory tract infection).
Thaum muaj ib tug mob lawm, lawv cov members ib tsev neeg yuav yog cov saib-xyaus tus mob ntawd - closed personal contact es thiaj kim tau tus kabmob...
Tos Hmoob ntseeg tias yog tim noob mas vim tias cov kabmob no yuav tsum sib sijhawm ntev heev uas yuav tawm-sim ua tus mob tawm los. Feem ntau mas yuav tsum siv sijhawm txog li ntau-ntau xyoo mas tawm-sim - tej tug mas siv txog li 30 xyoo tom qab 9tau kis tus kabmob lawm) es mam pom kev mob 9the disease) tawm-siv los. Vim lino, yog ib tsev neeg muaj ib tug mob ruas lawm ces Hmoob yuav pom tias ib tiam mas yuav pom muaj li ib ob tug mob... ces Hmoob cia li ntau nqi tias yog tim noob (genetic) es sawvdaws thiaj tsis pub mus yuav tej members tsev neeg los ua nyab/vaus..
Tsis tag lino xwb, society tseem muab lawm faib mus nyob ua lawm ib luv zos, tsis pub los mix nrog the community at large... eg. nyob ze pem Hin Heup... Bam Somsanouk ect... los txog tim Ban Vinai.
Vim twb tsis yog tim noob, vim yog tim kabmob ua rau mob xwb, lino, peb yeej muaj tshuaj kho cov mob no tau kom zoo kiag. Qhov Hmoob pheej muab tsev neeg mob ruas faib ua cov NOOB HMOB RUAS" mas yog vim tias thaum lawm paub tias lawm mob lawm ces lawm twb muaj complications ntau yam lawm uas yus yuav noj tshuaj kom zoo kiag lawm los, tej complications ntawd tseem nyob li qub, ua rau sawvdaws tseem pom. Tejno, Hmoob thiaj tsis kam mus ze tej neeg mob ruas or tej tsev neeg mob ruas uas lawm yeej tau noj tshuaj, kho tau zoo lawm.
Thaum lawm tau noj tshuaj lawm, tom qab li 2-3 limpiam xwb, cov neeg mob ruas no twb tsis mauj cuab-kas yuav kis tau tus kabmob rau lwm tus lawm.
Lino, tej tsev neeg mob ruas uas thaum ub nyob rau ntuj qujqab, feem coob yeej tau kho zoo tag by cov missionary - lawv yeej zoo tag lawm. Niaj hnub no, cov neeg no yeej nyob nrog savwdaws ua ke, may be your Hmoob neighbour, tabsis nej tsis paub lawv lawm xwb.
Nyob tim USA....
As of October, 2005, 3,604 patients on the United States registry were currently receiving care - 166 new cases reported in the U.S. in 2005. Most (100 or 60%) of these new cases were reported in the following states; California, Louisiana, Massachusetts, New York, and Texas.
Tamsis no... here is the global fact:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprosy#Global_situation
Worldwide, two to three million people are estimated to be permanently disabled because of leprosy.[9] India has the greatest number of cases, with Brazil second and Myanmar third.
In 1999, the world incidence of Hansen's disease was estimated to be 640,000. In 2000, 738,284 cases were identified.[74] In 2000, the World Health Organization (WHO) listed 91 countries in which Hansen's disease is endemic. India, Burma, and Nepal contained 70% of cases. India reports over 50% of the world's leprosy cases.[75] In 2002, 763,917 new cases were detected worldwide, and in that year the WHO listed Brazil, Madagascar, Mozambique, Tanzania, and Nepal as having 90% of Hansen's disease cases.
According to recent figures from the WHO, new cases detected worldwide have decreased by approximately 107,000 cases (or 21%) from 2003 to 2004. This decreasing trend has been consistent for the past three years. In addition, the global registered prevalence of HD was 286,063 cases; 407,791 new cases were detected during 2004.
In the United States, the first definite reference to the disease was in Florida in 1758. In 2004, there were 131 total cases of the disease in the United States. Of the 131 cases, two-thirds were found to be males. Also out of the 131 cases, 25 were of individuals who were born in the country, which amounts to 19%. Mexico (18.3%), Micronesia (11.5%), Brazil (9.2%), and the Philippines (7.6%) were the next leading countries where the victims of the disease were originally born. A total of 20 cases were found to be white, not of Hispanic origin. As of October, 2005, 3,604 patients on the United States registry were currently receiving care.[76] The disease is tracked by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), with a total of 166 new cases reported in the U.S. in 2005. Most (100 or 60%) of these new cases were reported in the following states; California, Louisiana, Massachusetts, New York, and Texas.[29] Although the number of cases worldwide continues to fall, pockets of high prevalence continue in certain areas such as Brazil, South Asia (India, Nepal), some parts of Africa (Tanzania, Madagascar, Mozambique), and the western Pacific.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprosy
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Moghlub
Nov 19, 2012, 5:52:40 AM11/19/12
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Thanks, Dr. Pao. It helps those of us who have no detail knowledge of such disease.
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Yaj Tshaj Koob
Nov 19, 2012, 7:04:38 AM11/19/12
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On Monday, November 19, 2012 4:26:14 AM UTC-6, DownUnder wrote:
> Mob Ruas ... leprosy or Hansen's disease (HD), yog tim tus kabmob hu ua Mycobacterium leprae and Mycobacterium lepromatosis ua rau mob. Nws tsis yog tim noob li feem coob tseem ntseeg.
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> Thaum ub, Hmoob thiab neeg ntiaj teb (since Biblical time - See Ben Her movie) tsis paub txog cov mob no. Sawvdaws thiaj ntseeg tias mob ruas yog tim noob (genetic) vim sawvdwas observe over the years tias cov mob no mas pheej yog mob rau cov neeg ib tsev xwb. Tsis tag lino xwb, cov neeg mob ruas tau mag society muab lawm outcast los tau ntau 1000 xyoo.
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> Cov kabmob M. leprae no mas yog kis tau rau cov nyob ze-ze xwb, nyob ua ke vim cov kabmob sibkis los ntawd kev ua pa - respiratory droplets - yuav tsum yog nyob sib ze tiag tiag thiab yuav sib kis tau. Cov nyob deb li 2-3 meters lawm ces yeej ki tau nyuab lawm (same like catching the Flu or other viral respiratory tract infection).
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> Thaum muaj ib tug mob lawm, lawv cov members ib tsev neeg yuav yog cov saib-xyaus tus mob ntawd - closed personal contact es thiaj kim tau tus kabmob...
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> Tos Hmoob ntseeg tias yog tim noob mas vim tias cov kabmob no yuav tsum sib sijhawm ntev heev uas yuav tawm-sim ua tus mob tawm los. Feem ntau mas yuav tsum siv sijhawm txog li ntau-ntau xyoo mas tawm-sim - tej tug mas siv txog li 30 xyoo tom qab 9tau kis tus kabmob lawm) es mam pom kev mob 9the disease) tawm-siv los. Vim lino, yog ib tsev neeg muaj ib tug mob ruas lawm ces Hmoob yuav pom tias ib tiam mas yuav pom muaj li ib ob tug mob... ces Hmoob cia li ntau nqi tias yog tim noob (genetic) es sawvdaws thiaj tsis pub mus yuav tej members tsev neeg los ua nyab/vaus..
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> Tsis tag lino xwb, society tseem muab lawm faib mus nyob ua lawm ib luv zos, tsis pub los mix nrog the community at large... eg. nyob ze pem Hin Heup... Bam Somsanouk ect... los txog tim Ban Vinai.
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> Vim twb tsis yog tim noob, vim yog tim kabmob ua rau mob xwb, lino, peb yeej muaj tshuaj kho cov mob no tau kom zoo kiag. Qhov Hmoob pheej muab tsev neeg mob ruas faib ua cov NOOB HMOB RUAS" mas yog vim tias thaum lawm paub tias lawm mob lawm ces lawm twb muaj complications ntau yam lawm uas yus yuav noj tshuaj kom zoo kiag lawm los, tej complications ntawd tseem nyob li qub, ua rau sawvdaws tseem pom. Tejno, Hmoob thiaj tsis kam mus ze tej neeg mob ruas or tej tsev neeg mob ruas uas lawm yeej tau noj tshuaj, kho tau zoo lawm.
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> Thaum lawm tau noj tshuaj lawm, tom qab li 2-3 limpiam xwb, cov neeg mob ruas no twb tsis mauj cuab-kas yuav kis tau tus kabmob rau lwm tus lawm.
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> Lino, tej tsev neeg mob ruas uas thaum ub nyob rau ntuj qujqab, feem coob yeej tau kho zoo tag by cov missionary - lawv yeej zoo tag lawm. Niaj hnub no, cov neeg no yeej nyob nrog savwdaws ua ke, may be your Hmoob neighbour, tabsis nej tsis paub lawv lawm xwb.
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> As of October, 2005, 3,604 patients on the United States registry were currently receiving care - 166 new cases reported in the U.S. in 2005. Most (100 or 60%) of these new cases were reported in the following states; California, Louisiana, Massachusetts, New York, and Texas.
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> Tamsis no... here is the global fact:
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprosy#Global_situation
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> Worldwide, two to three million people are estimated to be permanently disabled because of leprosy.[9] India has the greatest number of cases, with Brazil second and Myanmar third.
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> In 1999, the world incidence of Hansen's disease was estimated to be 640,000. In 2000, 738,284 cases were identified.[74] In 2000, the World Health Organization (WHO) listed 91 countries in which Hansen's disease is endemic. India, Burma, and Nepal contained 70% of cases. India reports over 50% of the world's leprosy cases.[75] In 2002, 763,917 new cases were detected worldwide, and in that year the WHO listed Brazil, Madagascar, Mozambique, Tanzania, and Nepal as having 90% of Hansen's disease cases.
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> According to recent figures from the WHO, new cases detected worldwide have decreased by approximately 107,000 cases (or 21%) from 2003 to 2004. This decreasing trend has been consistent for the past three years. In addition, the global registered prevalence of HD was 286,063 cases; 407,791 new cases were detected during 2004.
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> In the United States, the first definite reference to the disease was in Florida in 1758. In 2004, there were 131 total cases of the disease in the United States. Of the 131 cases, two-thirds were found to be males. Also out of the 131 cases, 25 were of individuals who were born in the country, which amounts to 19%. Mexico (18.3%), Micronesia (11.5%), Brazil (9.2%), and the Philippines (7.6%) were the next leading countries where the victims of the disease were originally born. A total of 20 cases were found to be white, not of Hispanic origin. As of October, 2005, 3,604 patients on the United States registry were currently receiving care.[76] The disease is tracked by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), with a total of 166 new cases reported in the U.S. in 2005. Most (100 or 60%) of these new cases were reported in the following states; California, Louisiana, Massachusetts, New York, and Texas.[29] Although the number of cases worldwide continues to fall, pockets of high prevalence continue in certain areas such as Brazil, South Asia (India, Nepal), some parts of Africa (Tanzania, Madagascar, Mozambique), and the western Pacific.
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> Mob Ruas ... leprosy or Hansen's disease (HD), yog tim tus kabmob hu ua Mycobacterium leprae and Mycobacterium lepromatosis ua rau mob. Nws tsis yog tim noob li feem coob tseem ntseeg.
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> Thaum ub, Hmoob thiab neeg ntiaj teb (since Biblical time - See Ben Her movie) tsis paub txog cov mob no. Sawvdaws thiaj ntseeg tias mob ruas yog tim noob (genetic) vim sawvdwas observe over the years tias cov mob no mas pheej yog mob rau cov neeg ib tsev xwb. Tsis tag lino xwb, cov neeg mob ruas tau mag society muab lawm outcast los tau ntau 1000 xyoo.
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> Cov kabmob M. leprae no mas yog kis tau rau cov nyob ze-ze xwb, nyob ua ke vim cov kabmob sibkis los ntawd kev ua pa - respiratory droplets - yuav tsum yog nyob sib ze tiag tiag thiab yuav sib kis tau. Cov nyob deb li 2-3 meters lawm ces yeej ki tau nyuab lawm (same like catching the Flu or other viral respiratory tract infection).
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> Thaum muaj ib tug mob lawm, lawv cov members ib tsev neeg yuav yog cov saib-xyaus tus mob ntawd - closed personal contact es thiaj kim tau tus kabmob...
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> Tos Hmoob ntseeg tias yog tim noob mas vim tias cov kabmob no yuav tsum sib sijhawm ntev heev uas yuav tawm-sim ua tus mob tawm los. Feem ntau mas yuav tsum siv sijhawm txog li ntau-ntau xyoo mas tawm-sim - tej tug mas siv txog li 30 xyoo tom qab 9tau kis tus kabmob lawm) es mam pom kev mob 9the disease) tawm-siv los. Vim lino, yog ib tsev neeg muaj ib tug mob ruas lawm ces Hmoob yuav pom tias ib tiam mas yuav pom muaj li ib ob tug mob... ces Hmoob cia li ntau nqi tias yog tim noob (genetic) es sawvdaws thiaj tsis pub mus yuav tej members tsev neeg los ua nyab/vaus..
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Ua tsaug ntau rau koj cov lus tshab txhais txog txoj kev sib kis ntawm cov neeg mob ruas rau peb tau paub txog, Hmoob ib txwm yeej ntshai cov neeg mob ruas no kawg, thaum ub cov Hmoob huv yeej tsi pub cov Hmoob tsi huv no los nyob sib ze hlo li, tab sis tuaj rau mab teb Meskas no mas tuaj nyob sib xyaw li lawm, thiab ib feem tsi paub caj ces cov Hmoob mob ruas no ces yeej sib yuav sib chab sib chaws li lawm.
Ua tsaug ntau rau koj cov lus tshab txhais.
YTK
Moghlub
Nov 19, 2012, 9:15:30 AM11/19/12
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Nyob zoo YTK and all,
Ntau xyoo dhlau lug, peb ib tug phauj tau nyam tsum ib tug hluas nraug Moob kws nwg yeej paub tsi txug puab keeb kwm vim tuaj nyob tebchaws nua ces suav dlawg nyob sis xyaw lawm. Nwg tau caum tug huas nraug moog txug tom puab tsev ces nwg le moog pum tug hluas nraug nam hab txiv kws tej ntiv teg ntiv tej taw tub nqws taag lawm. Nwg ceeb luj heev ces nwg ca le nyag kev tsiv rov lug. Thaus nwg lug txug tsev ces nwg ca le xaaj kuas nwg nam nwg txiv puab tsi yoom has dlaab tsi hlo le. Tsi taag le ntawd taab txawm yog tog nraug vauv ho lawv qaab tuaj has los nwg maam le ua tug dlaws hab tiv. Tawm sis tog nraug vauv los luas yeej paub luas chaw muas ces luas ca le ua ib sab tsi tuaj has dlaab tsi le lawm.
Naj nub nua los yug tsoom Moob yeej ntshai rwj rwg nyob tsaam ces tej hluas tsi paub ces ho moog nyam raug tej tub los sis tej ntxhais kws yog caaj ceg Moob mob ruas ces yuav ua neej tuav plig rawv hab..... hehehehehe..
M
Ntau xyoo dhlau lug, peb ib tug phauj tau nyam tsum ib tug hluas nraug Moob kws nwg yeej paub tsi txug puab keeb kwm vim tuaj nyob tebchaws nua ces suav dlawg nyob sis xyaw lawm. Nwg tau caum tug huas nraug moog txug tom puab tsev ces nwg le moog pum tug hluas nraug nam hab txiv kws tej ntiv teg ntiv tej taw tub nqws taag lawm. Nwg ceeb luj heev ces nwg ca le nyag kev tsiv rov lug. Thaus nwg lug txug tsev ces nwg ca le xaaj kuas nwg nam nwg txiv puab tsi yoom has dlaab tsi hlo le. Tsi taag le ntawd taab txawm yog tog nraug vauv ho lawv qaab tuaj has los nwg maam le ua tug dlaws hab tiv. Tawm sis tog nraug vauv los luas yeej paub luas chaw muas ces luas ca le ua ib sab tsi tuaj has dlaab tsi le lawm.
Naj nub nua los yug tsoom Moob yeej ntshai rwj rwg nyob tsaam ces tej hluas tsi paub ces ho moog nyam raug tej tub los sis tej ntxhais kws yog caaj ceg Moob mob ruas ces yuav ua neej tuav plig rawv hab..... hehehehehe..
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Yaj Tshaj Koob
Nov 19, 2012, 10:40:52 AM11/19/12
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Thaum kws kuv tseem nyob Colorado muaj ib tsev Moob Lauj twm zeej tuaj poob nrag Denver, Co suav dlawg yeej tsi paub tas puab yog Moob Mob Ruas le kuas yim hov muaj ib tug tub hab tes cov tub hluas puab ua phooj ywg ua ke, koj tuaj kuv tsev kuv tuaj koj tsev, tes txhaj le moog pum yawm hluas Moob Lauj txiv tej teg taw puav leej nqws taag, hab tu tej tug lawm, huas khawb khawb tej ntsej muag txho taag le, tes yawm hluas kws moog pum txhaj lug has qha rua nwg txiv tes nwg txiv le has tas yog koj pum le koj has ko tes yog Moob mob ruas, koj yuav tau txhob moog tim puab hab koj xob ua phooj ywg zoo rua yawm hluas ntawd nuas tes tug tub hluas kws tsi yog Moob mob txhaj le ncua kev ua si nrug yawm hluas Moob mob ruas zuj zus le hov.
Kuas si teb chaws nuav tes Meskas muab tshuaj rua cov Moob hov noj noj tes kuj tsi ntw lawm.
YTK
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
Nov 19, 2012, 12:10:10 PM11/19/12
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tej no twb tsis ntev2 thaum ub li na. thaum 80 tawm ntawd xwb hos.
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
Nov 19, 2012, 12:12:15 PM11/19/12
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On Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:07:09 AM UTC-6, Yaj Tshaj Koob wrote:
zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 19, 2012, 6:53:56 PM11/19/12
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Nej mus saib cov hauv no:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtIgXbi4m1c&noredirect=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcYY5eCwwUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EBQq6iFayM
Ua tsaug Dr. Pao. Ib qhov ntxiv; yog hais tias ib tug hmoob miskas mus txiag cov poj niam hmoob uas muaj leprosy (thaum tus poj niam tseem hluas), es tus hmoob miskas ntawv puas kis tau leprosy los ntawm tus poj niam ntawv?
zajlaujhmoob
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtIgXbi4m1c&noredirect=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcYY5eCwwUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EBQq6iFayM
Ua tsaug Dr. Pao. Ib qhov ntxiv; yog hais tias ib tug hmoob miskas mus txiag cov poj niam hmoob uas muaj leprosy (thaum tus poj niam tseem hluas), es tus hmoob miskas ntawv puas kis tau leprosy los ntawm tus poj niam ntawv?
zajlaujhmoob
zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 19, 2012, 7:38:03 PM11/19/12
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Tsis nco qab ib yam ntxiv thiab Dr. Pao,
Yog hais tias yus muab ib tug pog hmoob zoo zoo nkauj uas muaj leprosy hnia, npuav qhov ncauj, thiab nrog nws noj ib taig mov ntse dej ua ke, es yus puas kis tau leprosy los ntawm nws thiab?
Ib qhov ntxim, yog hais tias tus pog zoo zoo nkauj ho niaj hnub tuav qaub rau yus noj ne, yus puas kis tau thiab?
zajlaujhmoob
Yog hais tias yus muab ib tug pog hmoob zoo zoo nkauj uas muaj leprosy hnia, npuav qhov ncauj, thiab nrog nws noj ib taig mov ntse dej ua ke, es yus puas kis tau leprosy los ntawm nws thiab?
Ib qhov ntxim, yog hais tias tus pog zoo zoo nkauj ho niaj hnub tuav qaub rau yus noj ne, yus puas kis tau thiab?
zajlaujhmoob
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
Nov 19, 2012, 10:16:44 PM11/19/12
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DownUnder
Nov 20, 2012, 2:56:56 AM11/20/12
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Kev mob Ruas tsis yog yam mob uas yuav sib kis tau los ntawm pw ua ke (sex). It is NOT... jom nkag siab ZOO, nws TSIS YOG - it is NOT a sexual distributed disease (STD).
Sibkis lo ntawv tej kev ua pav (respiratory droplets)...
Tabsis yog thaum pw ua ke mas feemcoob yeej muaj sib nwj, intimate physical contact thaib closeness... ces tej no kuj yuav ua kom kis tau tus kabmob IF tus neeg mob ntawd tseem tsis tau nraug mus noj tshuaj kho.
Yog tus mob twb tau mus kho lawm... nws tau noj tshuaj raws li tus Dr hais ces tom qab li 2-3 limpiam xwb, tsis muaj kabmob lawm... THIAB yuav kis TSIS TAU rau lwm tus lawm. Lino, cov Doctor thiab Missionary, lawm take precaustion... es lawm mus kho cov neeg mob ruas nyob ntuj qub-qab, mus nrog lawm nyob ua ke hauv lawm tej zos los yeej khi tsis tau vim cov neeg mob twb tau noj tshuaj... so they cannot spraed the bacteria to others any more.
Cov mob rus es muaj COMPLICATIONS li sawvdwas pias txog, yog tus neeg ntawd tau mus noj tshuaj, kho lawm raws li cov Dotor hais ces nws yeej kis tsis tau mob rau lwm tiu lawm... yus yuav mus nrog nws sib tuav-tes, sib khawm, nyob ua ke los yeej kis TSIS TAU tus mob lawm..
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Sibkis lo ntawv tej kev ua pav (respiratory droplets)...
Tabsis yog thaum pw ua ke mas feemcoob yeej muaj sib nwj, intimate physical contact thaib closeness... ces tej no kuj yuav ua kom kis tau tus kabmob IF tus neeg mob ntawd tseem tsis tau nraug mus noj tshuaj kho.
Yog tus mob twb tau mus kho lawm... nws tau noj tshuaj raws li tus Dr hais ces tom qab li 2-3 limpiam xwb, tsis muaj kabmob lawm... THIAB yuav kis TSIS TAU rau lwm tus lawm. Lino, cov Doctor thiab Missionary, lawm take precaustion... es lawm mus kho cov neeg mob ruas nyob ntuj qub-qab, mus nrog lawm nyob ua ke hauv lawm tej zos los yeej khi tsis tau vim cov neeg mob twb tau noj tshuaj... so they cannot spraed the bacteria to others any more.
Cov mob rus es muaj COMPLICATIONS li sawvdwas pias txog, yog tus neeg ntawd tau mus noj tshuaj, kho lawm raws li cov Dotor hais ces nws yeej kis tsis tau mob rau lwm tiu lawm... yus yuav mus nrog nws sib tuav-tes, sib khawm, nyob ua ke los yeej kis TSIS TAU tus mob lawm..
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DownUnder
Nov 20, 2012, 3:07:47 AM11/20/12
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THe rule to remember....
Nyob tebchaws no yog leej twg (muaj mob infectious disease) es nws tseem muaj kabmob thiab yuav kis tau rau lwm tus mas cov Health Official yeej yuav tau muab tus neeg mob ntawd cov mus qho rau ib shav tsev ISOLATION - TSIS PUB lwm tus mus ze tau - unless taking the proper protection measure eg. rau mask, hnag tsho protection, thiab siv goves.
Txua-txua tus neeg mob (infectious diesease)yuav tsum raug Doctoer txheeb-xyuas kom new CLEAR lawm tiag-tiag ... tias nws yeej khi TSIS TAU kabmob rau lwm tus lawm mas cov Health official thiaj li yuav tso nws TAWM LOS mus nyob sib xyaw nrog cov neeg community thoob plaws.
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Nyob tebchaws no yog leej twg (muaj mob infectious disease) es nws tseem muaj kabmob thiab yuav kis tau rau lwm tus mas cov Health Official yeej yuav tau muab tus neeg mob ntawd cov mus qho rau ib shav tsev ISOLATION - TSIS PUB lwm tus mus ze tau - unless taking the proper protection measure eg. rau mask, hnag tsho protection, thiab siv goves.
Txua-txua tus neeg mob (infectious diesease)yuav tsum raug Doctoer txheeb-xyuas kom new CLEAR lawm tiag-tiag ... tias nws yeej khi TSIS TAU kabmob rau lwm tus lawm mas cov Health official thiaj li yuav tso nws TAWM LOS mus nyob sib xyaw nrog cov neeg community thoob plaws.
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zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 20, 2012, 3:32:46 AM11/20/12
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Ua tsaug Dr. Pao,
Tso siab lawm lau......thank god it make me feels so good....
Qhov reasons kuv tuaj nug mas twb vim thaum ub 1990, kuv tau tham ib niag pog hluas 26 xyoo ua zoo zoo nkauj lawm. Thaum tham mas tsis paub nws caj ces zoo ces yeej tau muaj kev hlub mes ntsis lawm.
Muaj ib hnub kuv thiaj nug tias cas tuaj nrog nws nyob thiab paub nws tau 3 xyoo es kuv tsis tau pom nws niam nws txiv li. Nws pheej hais tias lawv nyob sab sauv (upstair) xwb. Muaj ib hnub, kuv xav mus xav los, kuv thiaj ua ib siab sim mus ntsib kom tau nws niam thiab txiv nkawv puas kam kuv coj nkawv niag ntxhais mus saib movie. Kuv txawm nce mus txog sab sauv, ua cas nws niag ntxhais ces li caum kuv qab ceev ceev los thaiv kuv kiag, tsis pub kuv mus hauv nws niam nws txiv hoob.
Kuv nug niag pog tias yog vim li cas nws tsis kam kuv mus saib nws niam thiab nws txiv, ces nws thiaj li teb tsis tau kuv ib los li. Kuv hais tias, yog nws tsis kam ces kuv yuav mus tsev es tsis tuaj tham nws ib zaug ntxhiv lawm. Tus poj mas quaj tas zog, thiab nws niam nws txiv thiaj li nthe nthe kom nws cia li ua ib siab tsov kuv mus kom pom nws niam thiab nws txiv, vim nkawv xav pom kuv thiab.
Kuv ceeb loj tshaj plaws, txij li thaum kuv pom nws niam thiab nws txiv. Txij hnub ntawv los, ces kuv thiaj nug tus pog tias ua cas nws niam nws txiv ho tsis muaj tes muaj taw. Nws quaj quaj quaj quaj rau kuv, thiab ntaus kuv lub hauv siab ob teg, ces khawm kuv ruaj ruaj, thiab tsis kam kuv los tsev lawm. Tsis tas li ces nws mam li qhia qhov tseeb tias lawv yog neeg "mob tsuas" (tsis yog mob rua los sis mob ruas li nej hais).
Tu siab kawg li, vim kuv thiab tus neeg kuv paub tau 3 xyoo yeej muaj txoj kev hlub loj thiab dav heev li lawm. Kuv thiaj li los txog tsev, ces mam ua zoo piav rau cov laus, ces lawv muab kuv cem sab kawg kiag. Kuv twb yuav luag mag cov txheeb ze ncaws, vim tham ib niag nkauj hmoob mob tsuas.
More later....
Tso siab lawm lau......thank god it make me feels so good....
Qhov reasons kuv tuaj nug mas twb vim thaum ub 1990, kuv tau tham ib niag pog hluas 26 xyoo ua zoo zoo nkauj lawm. Thaum tham mas tsis paub nws caj ces zoo ces yeej tau muaj kev hlub mes ntsis lawm.
Muaj ib hnub kuv thiaj nug tias cas tuaj nrog nws nyob thiab paub nws tau 3 xyoo es kuv tsis tau pom nws niam nws txiv li. Nws pheej hais tias lawv nyob sab sauv (upstair) xwb. Muaj ib hnub, kuv xav mus xav los, kuv thiaj ua ib siab sim mus ntsib kom tau nws niam thiab txiv nkawv puas kam kuv coj nkawv niag ntxhais mus saib movie. Kuv txawm nce mus txog sab sauv, ua cas nws niag ntxhais ces li caum kuv qab ceev ceev los thaiv kuv kiag, tsis pub kuv mus hauv nws niam nws txiv hoob.
Kuv nug niag pog tias yog vim li cas nws tsis kam kuv mus saib nws niam thiab nws txiv, ces nws thiaj li teb tsis tau kuv ib los li. Kuv hais tias, yog nws tsis kam ces kuv yuav mus tsev es tsis tuaj tham nws ib zaug ntxhiv lawm. Tus poj mas quaj tas zog, thiab nws niam nws txiv thiaj li nthe nthe kom nws cia li ua ib siab tsov kuv mus kom pom nws niam thiab nws txiv, vim nkawv xav pom kuv thiab.
Kuv ceeb loj tshaj plaws, txij li thaum kuv pom nws niam thiab nws txiv. Txij hnub ntawv los, ces kuv thiaj nug tus pog tias ua cas nws niam nws txiv ho tsis muaj tes muaj taw. Nws quaj quaj quaj quaj rau kuv, thiab ntaus kuv lub hauv siab ob teg, ces khawm kuv ruaj ruaj, thiab tsis kam kuv los tsev lawm. Tsis tas li ces nws mam li qhia qhov tseeb tias lawv yog neeg "mob tsuas" (tsis yog mob rua los sis mob ruas li nej hais).
Tu siab kawg li, vim kuv thiab tus neeg kuv paub tau 3 xyoo yeej muaj txoj kev hlub loj thiab dav heev li lawm. Kuv thiaj li los txog tsev, ces mam ua zoo piav rau cov laus, ces lawv muab kuv cem sab kawg kiag. Kuv twb yuav luag mag cov txheeb ze ncaws, vim tham ib niag nkauj hmoob mob tsuas.
More later....
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
Nov 20, 2012, 5:11:07 AM11/20/12
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DownUnder
Nov 20, 2012, 5:13:16 AM11/20/12
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YTK...
THank you for your kind words.
We are here to share, to learn from each other..
I am just doing what I can as you are doing what you could in SCH.
Nyob zoo Xyoo Tshiab..
DU
THank you for your kind words.
We are here to share, to learn from each other..
I am just doing what I can as you are doing what you could in SCH.
Nyob zoo Xyoo Tshiab..
DU
zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 20, 2012, 8:46:33 AM11/20/12
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idon'tknow,
kuj tsis paub tias yog vim li cas ib txhia neeg ho has tias, "mob rua, mob ruas", tas sis txhua txhua cov neeg nyob ntawm peb lub zos mas tsuas paub los lus "mob tsuas" xwb.
Kuv mas surprise kawg qhov uas feem coob cov neeg nyob hauv no ho hais tsis hais li peb hais. Kuv tus kheej nrog rau txhua tus neeg kuv paub mas tsuas paub los lu "mob tsuas" xwb.
Tej zaum peb cov hmoob tuaj tshiab rau teb chaws usa no ho muab lo lus pauv lawm pob, vim tias thaum nej hais tias "mob rua, mob ruas" no ces peb tsis nkag siab lawm na.
Lo lus twg thiaj yog lo tseeb? Tej zaum nej cov hluas hauv no tsis paub lus hmoob zoo lawm. Rov qab mus nug nej poj nej yawm?
zajlaughmoob
kuj tsis paub tias yog vim li cas ib txhia neeg ho has tias, "mob rua, mob ruas", tas sis txhua txhua cov neeg nyob ntawm peb lub zos mas tsuas paub los lus "mob tsuas" xwb.
Kuv mas surprise kawg qhov uas feem coob cov neeg nyob hauv no ho hais tsis hais li peb hais. Kuv tus kheej nrog rau txhua tus neeg kuv paub mas tsuas paub los lu "mob tsuas" xwb.
Tej zaum peb cov hmoob tuaj tshiab rau teb chaws usa no ho muab lo lus pauv lawm pob, vim tias thaum nej hais tias "mob rua, mob ruas" no ces peb tsis nkag siab lawm na.
Lo lus twg thiaj yog lo tseeb? Tej zaum nej cov hluas hauv no tsis paub lus hmoob zoo lawm. Rov qab mus nug nej poj nej yawm?
zajlaughmoob
Moghlub
Nov 20, 2012, 10:10:41 AM11/20/12
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Dr. Pao,
Yog li no, yog vim li cas tus Txiv Plig Fabkis uas tuaj nrog cov Hmoob mob ruas ntawm lub zos Xoum Sanouk uas yuav txog pem Houay Moh ntawd ho kis thiab nws twb kho tsis zoo es thiaj tuag lawm nev? Qhov no ho yog li cas lawm?
Ua tsaug,
M
Yog li no, yog vim li cas tus Txiv Plig Fabkis uas tuaj nrog cov Hmoob mob ruas ntawm lub zos Xoum Sanouk uas yuav txog pem Houay Moh ntawd ho kis thiab nws twb kho tsis zoo es thiaj tuag lawm nev? Qhov no ho yog li cas lawm?
Ua tsaug,
M
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
Nov 20, 2012, 11:08:44 AM11/20/12
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TXHEEVCOM
Nov 20, 2012, 11:57:25 AM11/20/12
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idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
Nov 20, 2012, 12:51:21 PM11/20/12
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zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 20, 2012, 12:57:51 PM11/20/12
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i don't know thiab txheebcom,
niag tsov hluasnkauj ntawv mas, ntxim hlub kawg kiag li. tab txawm nws qhia kiag tias nws yog hmoob mob tsuas los peb cov txiv neej yawg yeej tseem tso tsis tau nws tseg kiag li, vim niag tsov tom ntawv muaj niag cwj pwm ib yam ib idon'tknow hais.
koj mus nrog nws nyob mas, niam ci nqaij, ua hnab vam, thiab khob poob rau yus noj huv tib si. thaum kuv noj nws tais khob poob mas, xav ntuav lawm xwb, vim niag pog zoo nkauj, tiam sis tsis txawj ua khob poob. nws ua tau ib co zoo li kua dis xwb.
Nqos tsis taus los lam nqo kom niag tsov tom ho kav ntsaim yus xwb. niag tsov tom no mas kuj ua rau kuv khuv xim txog niaj hnub niam no thiab. yog hais tias muaj tseeb li dr. pao thiab yog ntxhob paub thaum ntxov tias muaj tshuaj kho tau cov mob tsuas no ntshe kuv twb coj los ua niam yau lawm.
niaj hnub no mas ntsib niag tsov tom ntawv mas chim siab tshaj plaws; vim nws txoj kev hlub thiab kev ua zoo rau yus xwb. yus yeej tsis poob ib lub xees liab rau nws li, yog xav tau dab tsis los nws kam tas li.
nej puas paub, niag tsov tom ntawv tseem yuav khaw (booot), thiab ib lub niag tsheb pub rau yus caij thiab. ua zoo npau no los yus tseem muab nws tsog kiag, li ib tawb quas tso pov tseg.
More later.....
zajlaughmoob
niag tsov hluasnkauj ntawv mas, ntxim hlub kawg kiag li. tab txawm nws qhia kiag tias nws yog hmoob mob tsuas los peb cov txiv neej yawg yeej tseem tso tsis tau nws tseg kiag li, vim niag tsov tom ntawv muaj niag cwj pwm ib yam ib idon'tknow hais.
koj mus nrog nws nyob mas, niam ci nqaij, ua hnab vam, thiab khob poob rau yus noj huv tib si. thaum kuv noj nws tais khob poob mas, xav ntuav lawm xwb, vim niag pog zoo nkauj, tiam sis tsis txawj ua khob poob. nws ua tau ib co zoo li kua dis xwb.
Nqos tsis taus los lam nqo kom niag tsov tom ho kav ntsaim yus xwb. niag tsov tom no mas kuj ua rau kuv khuv xim txog niaj hnub niam no thiab. yog hais tias muaj tseeb li dr. pao thiab yog ntxhob paub thaum ntxov tias muaj tshuaj kho tau cov mob tsuas no ntshe kuv twb coj los ua niam yau lawm.
niaj hnub no mas ntsib niag tsov tom ntawv mas chim siab tshaj plaws; vim nws txoj kev hlub thiab kev ua zoo rau yus xwb. yus yeej tsis poob ib lub xees liab rau nws li, yog xav tau dab tsis los nws kam tas li.
nej puas paub, niag tsov tom ntawv tseem yuav khaw (booot), thiab ib lub niag tsheb pub rau yus caij thiab. ua zoo npau no los yus tseem muab nws tsog kiag, li ib tawb quas tso pov tseg.
More later.....
zajlaughmoob
TXHEEVCOM
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On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:57:52 AM UTC-8, zajlau...@hotmail.com wrote:
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
Nov 20, 2012, 4:38:55 PM11/20/12
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TSOV TOM HMO I KOJ UA CAS RAU KUV LAWM NA? TSIS YOG KOJ UAS KHAWV KOOB LOS SIV TSHUAJ NTXHW 6 KUV LAWM LOS CAS KUV TSEEM NCO KOJ TXOG TAV NO NA? XAV ROV MUAB NWS CAWS CEG KIAG THIAB SIB ZOG TAS MAV KOM NWS ROV QW/NTSAJ DUA IB HMO.
zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 20, 2012, 5:11:25 PM11/20/12
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Txheev Cov,
Seb tus pog koj hais ntawv puas muaj ib tug butterfly tatoo uas yog xim pink nyob ntawm nws lub pawj xwb?
Yog hais tias muaj ces yog tus koj hais, yog tsis muaj ces tsis yog. Cia koj mam teb rau koj tus kheej; los sis koj twb tsis tau pom tus butterfly pob?
idon'tknow,
Tus siab lau...niag pog ntawv ces twb muaj peb tug tub lawm os. Nws niag txiv mas tseem yog ib tug neeg kuv paub zoo zoo thiab nyob ze ze peb thiab. Niaj hnub no ces ua ib siab lawm xwb os.
Tej zaum ntsib nws ntshe yuav tau kom nws mus thov tshuaj noj, tsam ib pliag ces nws cov ntiv tes thiab ntiv taw yuav plog zuj zuj li nws niam thiab nws txiv.
zajlaug
Seb tus pog koj hais ntawv puas muaj ib tug butterfly tatoo uas yog xim pink nyob ntawm nws lub pawj xwb?
Yog hais tias muaj ces yog tus koj hais, yog tsis muaj ces tsis yog. Cia koj mam teb rau koj tus kheej; los sis koj twb tsis tau pom tus butterfly pob?
idon'tknow,
Tus siab lau...niag pog ntawv ces twb muaj peb tug tub lawm os. Nws niag txiv mas tseem yog ib tug neeg kuv paub zoo zoo thiab nyob ze ze peb thiab. Niaj hnub no ces ua ib siab lawm xwb os.
Tej zaum ntsib nws ntshe yuav tau kom nws mus thov tshuaj noj, tsam ib pliag ces nws cov ntiv tes thiab ntiv taw yuav plog zuj zuj li nws niam thiab nws txiv.
zajlaug
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
Nov 20, 2012, 6:36:02 PM11/20/12
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zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 20, 2012, 7:03:06 PM11/20/12
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idon'tknow,
kuv tus kheej xwb yeej khuv xim kawg kiag li, vim qhov yus tsis paub thiab tsis nkag siab zoo txog cov hmoob mob tsuas no.
koj paub txij hnub kuv muab nws tso lawm, nws thiaj ua ib siab khiav mus yuav txiv, mas kuj ua rau kuv lub siab mob mob mob mob heev kawg kiag.
kuv kuj quaj tau ob peb hnub, thiab muab xav hais tias yog "yog vim li cas?", txoj kev hlub zoo npaum no es yus ho yuav tsog tau tseg yooj yim npaum li no.
Niaj hnub no kuv los yeej xav tsis thoob li, vim tam sis no, tus hluas nkauj los kuj mus kawm tas master lawm thiab.
kuv cov kua muag poob heev kawg, thaum twg kuv xav txog txoj kev hlub 3 xyoo uas zoo tshaj plaws nyob qab ntuj no.
"Khuv Xim"
Khuv xim txog lub neej txoj kev hlub
uas ib tug neeg tau muab rau kuv
Nyob yav tas los niaj hnub no
Tsuas yog kuv npau suav pom lawm xwb
Khuv xim txog ib tug hlub yav tas
uas nws yog tus uas hlub kuv tshaj
txawm yuav nrhiav mus txog qhov twg
los tsis muaj tus hlub kuv npaum li nws
Yog kuv tig tau lub neej rov qab
Kuv yuav tig rov qab mus kom txog
lub neej tag los kev ua lub neej
nrog tus hlub kuv tshaj
Kuv yuav mus nrog nws ua lub neej
Lub neej ib leeg tsis ntshaw lwm tus
Yuav ua txhua yam los hlub pauv nws
Txoj kev hlub uas nws muab rau kuv
Oh..baby I miss your love
I miss your kisses
I miss your touch
I’ll never find someone like you
I miss you so much
Tag sim ua neej tig tsis tau rov
ua siab nyob kuv txoj kev liam
tsis muaj tus hlub mus tag ib sim/txhis
Ua lub neej nyob nrog kev khuv xim
Khuv xim txog lub neej yav tag dlaus los
uas kuv twb muaj txhua tsav txhua yam
ua kuv lub neej nyob luag ntxhu ntxhi
zajlaug
kuv tus kheej xwb yeej khuv xim kawg kiag li, vim qhov yus tsis paub thiab tsis nkag siab zoo txog cov hmoob mob tsuas no.
koj paub txij hnub kuv muab nws tso lawm, nws thiaj ua ib siab khiav mus yuav txiv, mas kuj ua rau kuv lub siab mob mob mob mob heev kawg kiag.
kuv kuj quaj tau ob peb hnub, thiab muab xav hais tias yog "yog vim li cas?", txoj kev hlub zoo npaum no es yus ho yuav tsog tau tseg yooj yim npaum li no.
Niaj hnub no kuv los yeej xav tsis thoob li, vim tam sis no, tus hluas nkauj los kuj mus kawm tas master lawm thiab.
kuv cov kua muag poob heev kawg, thaum twg kuv xav txog txoj kev hlub 3 xyoo uas zoo tshaj plaws nyob qab ntuj no.
"Khuv Xim"
Khuv xim txog lub neej txoj kev hlub
uas ib tug neeg tau muab rau kuv
Nyob yav tas los niaj hnub no
Tsuas yog kuv npau suav pom lawm xwb
Khuv xim txog ib tug hlub yav tas
uas nws yog tus uas hlub kuv tshaj
txawm yuav nrhiav mus txog qhov twg
los tsis muaj tus hlub kuv npaum li nws
Yog kuv tig tau lub neej rov qab
Kuv yuav tig rov qab mus kom txog
lub neej tag los kev ua lub neej
nrog tus hlub kuv tshaj
Kuv yuav mus nrog nws ua lub neej
Lub neej ib leeg tsis ntshaw lwm tus
Yuav ua txhua yam los hlub pauv nws
Txoj kev hlub uas nws muab rau kuv
Oh..baby I miss your love
I miss your kisses
I miss your touch
I’ll never find someone like you
I miss you so much
Tag sim ua neej tig tsis tau rov
ua siab nyob kuv txoj kev liam
tsis muaj tus hlub mus tag ib sim/txhis
Ua lub neej nyob nrog kev khuv xim
Khuv xim txog lub neej yav tag dlaus los
uas kuv twb muaj txhua tsav txhua yam
ua kuv lub neej nyob luag ntxhu ntxhi
zajlaug
Yaj Tshaj Koob
Nov 20, 2012, 7:03:52 PM11/20/12
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On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:38:56 PM UTC-6, idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู wrote:
idonotknow,
Txawm yuav zoo npaum cas los thaum koj tau lawm ces muaj ib hnuv koj yuav dhuav nws tsi xav khawm nws lawm os, tsi txhob pom tus ub tus no zoo es yus niag pog laus ho tsi zoo los cas? Tu siab ntau pab tsi tau cov neeg siab coob.
YTK
idonotknow,
Txawm yuav zoo npaum cas los thaum koj tau lawm ces muaj ib hnuv koj yuav dhuav nws tsi xav khawm nws lawm os, tsi txhob pom tus ub tus no zoo es yus niag pog laus ho tsi zoo los cas? Tu siab ntau pab tsi tau cov neeg siab coob.
YTK
phwvn...@yahoo.com
Nov 21, 2012, 8:20:53 PM11/21/12
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Zajlaugmoob...aw,
Los lus mob Tsuas/ruas no yog tib los lus.Koj yog cov moob leeg hais lus moob tsis meej xwb.Tiag-g los lus mob RUAS no thiaj yog lo sav daws hmoob nplog paub coob tshaj.
Koj yog cov mob leeg:
Lub roob ces nej hu lub tsoob.
Rov los tom koj lawm.Tsov los tom koj lawm.
Tus R mas hu tus TS. Koj mus hais tias moob mob Tsuas rau lawv mas lawv feem coob tsis paub nawb. Mob ruas mas sawv daws feem coob thiab paub.
Hais txog koj tus hluas nkauj mob tsuas koj hais ces kuv nyeem koj tej ntawv piav hauv no ces koj yeej kis mob RUAS lawm nawb.
Hais ncaj yog koj tau deev nws,nwj nws noj khoom uakev ces koj kis lawm nawb.
Tej laus thaum ub yeej hais yog hmoob mob ruas dej zaub tuaj rau koj noj es nws tej ntshav los koj tej zaub ces koj noj ces kis ntag.
Koj tus hluas nkauj nej twg sib puav qhov ncauj lawm ces koj yeej nqos nws li aub ncaug/quav ncaug ces koj yeej kis law.
Muaj ib tug kwv tij hmoob Yaj nyob Fresno thaum ub mas nws yeej tsis yog hmoob mob ruas.Nws tsis mloog lus ces nws txawm mus tham-m ib tug hluas nkauj hmoob mob RUAS li koj ntag. Cov laus cem-m yawg ces yawg tso tsi tau tseg mus nrog hluas nkauj nyob-b tau ib ntus ces mam khiav rov los nrog cov kwv tij duas.
tom qab no yawg cia li mob li mob ruas lawm laid.Yawg cia li pib mob tej ko taw thiab tes tsis tau nqws kiag.Tiam si yeej ua kiav txhab los ntshav liab vog.Tam sim no ces moob cia hais tias yawg tsev neeg yog hmoob mob ruas no lawm.Tiag-g cov laus paub zoo yawg yeej tsis yog.
Koj cia li mus hais kom doctor kuaj koj nawb....tsam koj laus zus ces ho huam tuaj laid..... kab mob ruas mam pib noj koj tuaj....tuag lauj koj naj.Txhob rawm zoo siab koj yeej muaj kab mob ruas lawm od.Peb yawg kwv tij kuv hais ntawd ces tam sim no cov paub yawg caj ces zoo-oo thiaj tsis hais xwb cov tsis paub ces luag ntxhi yuav xwb yog pom yawg naj.
Los lus mob Tsuas/ruas no yog tib los lus.Koj yog cov moob leeg hais lus moob tsis meej xwb.Tiag-g los lus mob RUAS no thiaj yog lo sav daws hmoob nplog paub coob tshaj.
Koj yog cov mob leeg:
Lub roob ces nej hu lub tsoob.
Rov los tom koj lawm.Tsov los tom koj lawm.
Tus R mas hu tus TS. Koj mus hais tias moob mob Tsuas rau lawv mas lawv feem coob tsis paub nawb. Mob ruas mas sawv daws feem coob thiab paub.
Hais txog koj tus hluas nkauj mob tsuas koj hais ces kuv nyeem koj tej ntawv piav hauv no ces koj yeej kis mob RUAS lawm nawb.
Hais ncaj yog koj tau deev nws,nwj nws noj khoom uakev ces koj kis lawm nawb.
Tej laus thaum ub yeej hais yog hmoob mob ruas dej zaub tuaj rau koj noj es nws tej ntshav los koj tej zaub ces koj noj ces kis ntag.
Koj tus hluas nkauj nej twg sib puav qhov ncauj lawm ces koj yeej nqos nws li aub ncaug/quav ncaug ces koj yeej kis law.
Muaj ib tug kwv tij hmoob Yaj nyob Fresno thaum ub mas nws yeej tsis yog hmoob mob ruas.Nws tsis mloog lus ces nws txawm mus tham-m ib tug hluas nkauj hmoob mob RUAS li koj ntag. Cov laus cem-m yawg ces yawg tso tsi tau tseg mus nrog hluas nkauj nyob-b tau ib ntus ces mam khiav rov los nrog cov kwv tij duas.
tom qab no yawg cia li mob li mob ruas lawm laid.Yawg cia li pib mob tej ko taw thiab tes tsis tau nqws kiag.Tiam si yeej ua kiav txhab los ntshav liab vog.Tam sim no ces moob cia hais tias yawg tsev neeg yog hmoob mob ruas no lawm.Tiag-g cov laus paub zoo yawg yeej tsis yog.
Koj cia li mus hais kom doctor kuaj koj nawb....tsam koj laus zus ces ho huam tuaj laid..... kab mob ruas mam pib noj koj tuaj....tuag lauj koj naj.Txhob rawm zoo siab koj yeej muaj kab mob ruas lawm od.Peb yawg kwv tij kuv hais ntawd ces tam sim no cov paub yawg caj ces zoo-oo thiaj tsis hais xwb cov tsis paub ces luag ntxhi yuav xwb yog pom yawg naj.
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
Nov 21, 2012, 8:47:16 PM11/21/12
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koj tseem muab hais koj ib tug kwvtij qhia tus original poster txog zaj no thiab mas ib ntsis nws yuav hnov mob ub mob no txawv2 thiab ntag ov.
DownUnder
Nov 22, 2012, 12:46:32 AM11/22/12
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Moghlub... et. al...
Kev sib kis tus kab mob Mob-Ruas ces muaj li kuv tau piav los lawm (in my previous posts).
Nco ntsoov tias cov neeg khi tau tus kabmob lawm tabsis nws yuav siv caij txog ntau hli, ntau xyoo uas kev mob-ruas mam tawm-sim los rau yus pom... tabsis lub caij ntawv, yus neeg ntawd (uas kis tau us kabmob tabsis tseem tsis tau pom tus kev mob-rus tawm-sim) yeej muaj peevxwm kis tau nws cov kabmob rau lwm tus tau.
Cov neeg uas khi tau tus kabmob tabsis tseem tsis tau muaj mob tawm-siv los (subclinical) mas yog cov teebmeem los tshaj plaws vim nws yuav kis (nws tub kabmob) tau rau lwm tus uas nrog nws nyob ua ke - close physical contact li kuv tau pias los lawm.
Vim lino, tus Txiv Plig Fabkis uas koj piav txog thiaj kis tau tus kabmob los ntawm cov neeg uas yeej kis tau tus kabmob lawm tabsis kev mob-ruas tseem tsis tau tawm-sis los (subclinical case due to long incubation period).
** Muaj ntsis yuav zoo lis HIV thiab ntag... tus khi kab mob HIV lawm tabsis nws kuj tsis paub tias nws muaj mob vim yuav sij caij ntev es tus mob thiaj tawm-sim los, tabsis lub caij ntawv, nws yeej muaj peevxwm khi tau nws cov kabmob rau lwm tus**
Tsis tag lino xwb, yog cov neeg , including Dr, uas tsis muaj experience txog hom mob no yuav tsis muaj cuab-kav diagnose tau hom mob no vim cov niam qhuav pib mob mas tshuas pom ib nyuag thaj tawv-nqaij dawb-tseb (Hypopigmented skin patch) tawm-sis xwb.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/hypopigmented%20macule%20in%20tuberculoid%20leprosy.jpg
Thaj tawv nqaij no yuav loog zujzus, pib ua ntej mas yog tsis hnov kub, tsis hnov txias (loss of hot & cold sensation), ces mam li loog heev tuaj uas tsis hnov mob li lawm (loss of tough & pain sensation... then feeling total numbness to pressure on that skin patch)... yus muab koob nkauj los yeej tsis hnov mob li lawm
Vim kev txheeb (diagnosis) hom mob no tsis yoojyim... YUs yuav tsum NTSIA POM tej tawv-nqaij tawm-sis or positive skin smears (yog muaj laboratoty thiab microscope ces kov cov tawv nqaib mus txheeb, ces yeej pom cov kabmob)). Tsis tag lino xwb, tej nyuag thaj nqaij dawb-tsev no kuj tsis yog ib qhob mob nyhav dabtsi uas tus neeg mob yuav mob-siab rau es yuav mus cuag DR sai-sai. Nws twb cia mob nhyav heev lawm - nqaij twb loog tag or complications - zoo li cov duab hauv no, nws mam mus cuag Dr. THaum ntawv ces DR kho tau nws tus mob kom tus-qab tabsis nws tej complications ces yeej zoo tsis tau rovqab li lawm.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/hypopigmented%20macule%20in%20tuberculoid%20leprosy.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/tuberculoid%20lesion.jpg
LOss of eye brow & eye las:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/loss%20of%20eyebrows.jpg
More advance case:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/arm%20nodules%20in%20lepromatous%20leprosy.jpg
Neglected case - very serious case:
Affecting the nose:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/saddle.gif
And then the face::
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/face%20nodules.jpg
Hand damage:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/deformed%20hands.jpg
Foot dammage:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/ulcerated%20foot.jpg
Saib cov information nyaj yuav teb tau koj qhov question koj nug txog tus Txiv Plig Fabkis.
du
Kev sib kis tus kab mob Mob-Ruas ces muaj li kuv tau piav los lawm (in my previous posts).
Nco ntsoov tias cov neeg khi tau tus kabmob lawm tabsis nws yuav siv caij txog ntau hli, ntau xyoo uas kev mob-ruas mam tawm-sim los rau yus pom... tabsis lub caij ntawv, yus neeg ntawd (uas kis tau us kabmob tabsis tseem tsis tau pom tus kev mob-rus tawm-sim) yeej muaj peevxwm kis tau nws cov kabmob rau lwm tus tau.
Cov neeg uas khi tau tus kabmob tabsis tseem tsis tau muaj mob tawm-siv los (subclinical) mas yog cov teebmeem los tshaj plaws vim nws yuav kis (nws tub kabmob) tau rau lwm tus uas nrog nws nyob ua ke - close physical contact li kuv tau pias los lawm.
Vim lino, tus Txiv Plig Fabkis uas koj piav txog thiaj kis tau tus kabmob los ntawm cov neeg uas yeej kis tau tus kabmob lawm tabsis kev mob-ruas tseem tsis tau tawm-sis los (subclinical case due to long incubation period).
** Muaj ntsis yuav zoo lis HIV thiab ntag... tus khi kab mob HIV lawm tabsis nws kuj tsis paub tias nws muaj mob vim yuav sij caij ntev es tus mob thiaj tawm-sim los, tabsis lub caij ntawv, nws yeej muaj peevxwm khi tau nws cov kabmob rau lwm tus**
Tsis tag lino xwb, yog cov neeg , including Dr, uas tsis muaj experience txog hom mob no yuav tsis muaj cuab-kav diagnose tau hom mob no vim cov niam qhuav pib mob mas tshuas pom ib nyuag thaj tawv-nqaij dawb-tseb (Hypopigmented skin patch) tawm-sis xwb.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/hypopigmented%20macule%20in%20tuberculoid%20leprosy.jpg
Thaj tawv nqaij no yuav loog zujzus, pib ua ntej mas yog tsis hnov kub, tsis hnov txias (loss of hot & cold sensation), ces mam li loog heev tuaj uas tsis hnov mob li lawm (loss of tough & pain sensation... then feeling total numbness to pressure on that skin patch)... yus muab koob nkauj los yeej tsis hnov mob li lawm
Vim kev txheeb (diagnosis) hom mob no tsis yoojyim... YUs yuav tsum NTSIA POM tej tawv-nqaij tawm-sis or positive skin smears (yog muaj laboratoty thiab microscope ces kov cov tawv nqaib mus txheeb, ces yeej pom cov kabmob)). Tsis tag lino xwb, tej nyuag thaj nqaij dawb-tsev no kuj tsis yog ib qhob mob nyhav dabtsi uas tus neeg mob yuav mob-siab rau es yuav mus cuag DR sai-sai. Nws twb cia mob nhyav heev lawm - nqaij twb loog tag or complications - zoo li cov duab hauv no, nws mam mus cuag Dr. THaum ntawv ces DR kho tau nws tus mob kom tus-qab tabsis nws tej complications ces yeej zoo tsis tau rovqab li lawm.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/hypopigmented%20macule%20in%20tuberculoid%20leprosy.jpg
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/tuberculoid%20lesion.jpg
LOss of eye brow & eye las:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/loss%20of%20eyebrows.jpg
More advance case:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/arm%20nodules%20in%20lepromatous%20leprosy.jpg
Neglected case - very serious case:
Affecting the nose:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/saddle.gif
And then the face::
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/face%20nodules.jpg
Hand damage:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/deformed%20hands.jpg
Foot dammage:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Leprosy/pictures/ulcerated%20foot.jpg
Saib cov information nyaj yuav teb tau koj qhov question koj nug txog tus Txiv Plig Fabkis.
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zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 22, 2012, 1:00:14 AM11/22/12
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Ua tsaug Dr. Pao,
Zoo heev qhov koj tuaj qhia rau peb paub. Zoo siab tau paub txog yam kab mob tsuas li koj hais sau no.
Kuv zaj dab neeg txog niag pog tsov tom ntawv ces yog cuav xwb. Kuv lam xev ib zaj example tuaj rau sawv daws hmloog kom lom zem xwb. Kuj xav xev ib zaj kom sawv daws ho muaj reactions and responses ntxiv...hehehe.hhehe
Kuv tus kheej xwb yeej tsis lam tham hmoob mob tsuas yooj yim li. Peb cov laus no ces, ua ntej yuav tham ib tug hluas nkauj/laus nkauj ces yeej mus nug qab zeb qaum zeb tag mam li tham....hehehe
Tsis ua cas, ces kuv mam li xev kuv zaj dab neeg txog niag pog tsov tom ntawv ntxim rau sawv daws hmloog seb lawv cov reaction ho yog li cas thiab.
Cov hluas, nej puas paub nab, txij hnub kuv muab niag pog tsov tom tso tseg, ces nws tej txheeb ze mas niam hu xov tooj tuaj rau kuv, hais tias kom kuv mus coj niag tsov tom los tsev, es lawv mam them nqi tshoob, nqi noj, nqi haus, thiab muab niag tsov tom pub dawb rau kuv.
Kuv ces, tsa chij dawb lawm xwb....hehehe...mus tsev ces pauv xov tooj, thiab tsis hu nus ib zaug ntxiv lawm...
Lom zem heev
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zajlaug
Zoo heev qhov koj tuaj qhia rau peb paub. Zoo siab tau paub txog yam kab mob tsuas li koj hais sau no.
Kuv zaj dab neeg txog niag pog tsov tom ntawv ces yog cuav xwb. Kuv lam xev ib zaj example tuaj rau sawv daws hmloog kom lom zem xwb. Kuj xav xev ib zaj kom sawv daws ho muaj reactions and responses ntxiv...hehehe.hhehe
Kuv tus kheej xwb yeej tsis lam tham hmoob mob tsuas yooj yim li. Peb cov laus no ces, ua ntej yuav tham ib tug hluas nkauj/laus nkauj ces yeej mus nug qab zeb qaum zeb tag mam li tham....hehehe
Tsis ua cas, ces kuv mam li xev kuv zaj dab neeg txog niag pog tsov tom ntawv ntxim rau sawv daws hmloog seb lawv cov reaction ho yog li cas thiab.
Cov hluas, nej puas paub nab, txij hnub kuv muab niag pog tsov tom tso tseg, ces nws tej txheeb ze mas niam hu xov tooj tuaj rau kuv, hais tias kom kuv mus coj niag tsov tom los tsev, es lawv mam them nqi tshoob, nqi noj, nqi haus, thiab muab niag tsov tom pub dawb rau kuv.
Kuv ces, tsa chij dawb lawm xwb....hehehe...mus tsev ces pauv xov tooj, thiab tsis hu nus ib zaug ntxiv lawm...
Lom zem heev
More later
zajlaug
zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 22, 2012, 1:11:32 AM11/22/12
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Dr. Pao,
Tsis nco qab ib qhov questions ntxiv thiab;
Ua li ne, nej cov uas pheej mus mus tim nplog, es mus tham hluas nkauj nes, yog lawv mus tham ncaj cov uas hmoob mob tsuas thiab muaj kev hlub loj loj nyob los tsuas teb ntawv es tej zaum kuj mag cov hmoob mob tsuas tso kab mob rau lawm pob?
Ib qhov kuv hnov xwb mas, cov uas pheej mus tim nplog mas nyiam nyiam yaim thiab npuav heev.
Yog hais li koj hais ces, cov uas pheej mus mus tim nplog ces kawg mob tsuas lawm lau...(cov uas pheej mus tham cov zoo zoo nkauj nram lav 52, veescas, thiab lwm qhov na?
Dr. Pao, koj xav li cas txog cov pheej mus ua haib haib tim nplog es tsis paub hmoob tej ntxhais tej caj ces?
zajlaug
Tsis nco qab ib qhov questions ntxiv thiab;
Ua li ne, nej cov uas pheej mus mus tim nplog, es mus tham hluas nkauj nes, yog lawv mus tham ncaj cov uas hmoob mob tsuas thiab muaj kev hlub loj loj nyob los tsuas teb ntawv es tej zaum kuj mag cov hmoob mob tsuas tso kab mob rau lawm pob?
Ib qhov kuv hnov xwb mas, cov uas pheej mus tim nplog mas nyiam nyiam yaim thiab npuav heev.
Yog hais li koj hais ces, cov uas pheej mus mus tim nplog ces kawg mob tsuas lawm lau...(cov uas pheej mus tham cov zoo zoo nkauj nram lav 52, veescas, thiab lwm qhov na?
Dr. Pao, koj xav li cas txog cov pheej mus ua haib haib tim nplog es tsis paub hmoob tej ntxhais tej caj ces?
zajlaug
DownUnder
Nov 22, 2012, 4:23:38 AM11/22/12
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Tej koj hais txog ntawd kuj yog ib cov teebmeem.
Kuv tsis tau txheeb xyuas thiab tsis tau hnov leej twg hais txog tej STD hauv cov ntxhais Hmoob nyob tim ub... esp HIV.
HIV mas yog ib yam mob uas kuj muaj coob heev nyob Thaib teb thiab pib coob zujzus nyob rau Nplog teb vim Nplog kuj tsis muaj testing thiab control zoo li lwm tebchaws.
Lino, kuv qhov advice ces yog leej twg mus Thaib teb thiab Nplog teb, es vam mus nhriav kev ua hluas, mas yuav tsum tau take precaution thiab PROTECTION yus tus kheeg kom zoo 120%. Tsis li ntawd ces, yeej yog pheej phoo xwb ntag!!!
du
Kuv tsis tau txheeb xyuas thiab tsis tau hnov leej twg hais txog tej STD hauv cov ntxhais Hmoob nyob tim ub... esp HIV.
HIV mas yog ib yam mob uas kuj muaj coob heev nyob Thaib teb thiab pib coob zujzus nyob rau Nplog teb vim Nplog kuj tsis muaj testing thiab control zoo li lwm tebchaws.
Lino, kuv qhov advice ces yog leej twg mus Thaib teb thiab Nplog teb, es vam mus nhriav kev ua hluas, mas yuav tsum tau take precaution thiab PROTECTION yus tus kheeg kom zoo 120%. Tsis li ntawd ces, yeej yog pheej phoo xwb ntag!!!
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zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 22, 2012, 4:47:44 AM11/22/12
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Dr. Pao,
Thaum kuv tseem kawm ntawv tom U mas kuv kuj tau nyeem ib daim research paper hais txog HIV, AIDS, thiab lwm yam kab mob.
Rau li daim research paper ntawv mas, zoo li feem ntau mas twb yog vim cov laus nyob tim usa no yog cov coj cov kab mob HIV, AIDS, thiab lwm yam coj mus kis rau cov hluas nkauj tim ub.
Tus twg mus rau sab ntuj tim ub, ces feem ntau kuj yog muaj kab mob ntawm nus tus kheej, es ho coj nws tej kab mob muab kis rau hmoob tej ntxhais(hmoob tej ntxhais tim ub tsis paub dad tsis, tsuas xav txog qhov zoo zoo nyob thiab ntshaw ntshaw nyiaj, ces kam kiag lawv lub cev rau rau cov laus; ces cov laus tso kab mob rau niag ob ceg xwb).
Zoo li cov nyob tim usa mus kis kab mob rau cov tim ub. Ib txhia tim usa uas tsis muaj kab uas tsis ceev faj ces ho rov mus kis kab mob tim ub los tsev.
Kuv agreed li koj hais, dr. pao, hais txog qhov uas yuav tau "take precaution thiab protection".
Dr. Pao, koj tus kheej ne, koj ho xav li cas txog cov tub ntxhais hluas tim usa uas pheej mus yuav ib tug pog hluas/yawg hluas tim ub tuaj nrog nws nyob tim usa no? Koj puas xav hais tias yuav tau muab check kom txaus txaus seb tus pog/yawg hluas ntawv puas muaj kab mob tso mam li cia lawv sib yuav?
zajlaug
zajlaug
Thaum kuv tseem kawm ntawv tom U mas kuv kuj tau nyeem ib daim research paper hais txog HIV, AIDS, thiab lwm yam kab mob.
Rau li daim research paper ntawv mas, zoo li feem ntau mas twb yog vim cov laus nyob tim usa no yog cov coj cov kab mob HIV, AIDS, thiab lwm yam coj mus kis rau cov hluas nkauj tim ub.
Tus twg mus rau sab ntuj tim ub, ces feem ntau kuj yog muaj kab mob ntawm nus tus kheej, es ho coj nws tej kab mob muab kis rau hmoob tej ntxhais(hmoob tej ntxhais tim ub tsis paub dad tsis, tsuas xav txog qhov zoo zoo nyob thiab ntshaw ntshaw nyiaj, ces kam kiag lawv lub cev rau rau cov laus; ces cov laus tso kab mob rau niag ob ceg xwb).
Zoo li cov nyob tim usa mus kis kab mob rau cov tim ub. Ib txhia tim usa uas tsis muaj kab uas tsis ceev faj ces ho rov mus kis kab mob tim ub los tsev.
Kuv agreed li koj hais, dr. pao, hais txog qhov uas yuav tau "take precaution thiab protection".
Dr. Pao, koj tus kheej ne, koj ho xav li cas txog cov tub ntxhais hluas tim usa uas pheej mus yuav ib tug pog hluas/yawg hluas tim ub tuaj nrog nws nyob tim usa no? Koj puas xav hais tias yuav tau muab check kom txaus txaus seb tus pog/yawg hluas ntawv puas muaj kab mob tso mam li cia lawv sib yuav?
zajlaug
zajlaug
Moghlub
Nov 22, 2012, 2:26:09 PM11/22/12
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Yawm Zaajlaug,
Es sub koj nim tsi tau paub has tas tsoom fwv Melikas tub check zoox maam le tso ib tug neeg txawv tebchaws tuaj yuav cov neeg Melikas nev.
Cov nam laug kws moog ntswb kev laaj sab hab txuas sav kuas ntev ntxiv ntawd ces txawm yuav yaim le caag los xij puab luas muas. Kawg qhov puab phom luv dluav taag lawm ces moog phlwx ib chim tsi tau ces yuav tau siv nplaig paab txhaj zoo puab sab laiv.... hahahahahaha...
Le caag los quas nyag yuav tsum tau ceevfaaj quas nyag xwb las as.
M
Es sub koj nim tsi tau paub has tas tsoom fwv Melikas tub check zoox maam le tso ib tug neeg txawv tebchaws tuaj yuav cov neeg Melikas nev.
Cov nam laug kws moog ntswb kev laaj sab hab txuas sav kuas ntev ntxiv ntawd ces txawm yuav yaim le caag los xij puab luas muas. Kawg qhov puab phom luv dluav taag lawm ces moog phlwx ib chim tsi tau ces yuav tau siv nplaig paab txhaj zoo puab sab laiv.... hahahahahaha...
Le caag los quas nyag yuav tsum tau ceevfaaj quas nyag xwb las as.
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zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 22, 2012, 3:12:59 PM11/22/12
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Moshlub aws...
Zoo li koj hais yog lawm mas. Cov laus ces lawv tus tub twb tsis pab ua hauj lawm rau lawv lawm ces, yeej kag yuav tau muab lub tsaj ntswm thiab tus nplaig pab xwb, thiaj li yuav zoo siab mas.
Qhov koj yog qhov kuv pheej hais tas zog mas, vim thaum nws muab lub tsaj ntswm tsaus rau hauv ob ceg lawm ces nws tus nplaig thaj le kis tau kaab mob, vim tas nws pheej yaim, nqus, thiab nti tawm (ib txha ces, nqos kiag lawm thiab).
Aj yam..kuv muaj ib yam nplawg mas nyam nyam moog tim mub heev kawg. Nws qhov precautions thiab protection ces tsuas yog nqa ib co maj naus (lemon) nrog nws xwb. Nws hais tas, ua ntej nwg yuav nrug ib tug tuab neeg muaj kev hlub mas nws yuav tau nyem ib lub maj naus kom tawg, ces muab ob tug ntiv tes pleev cov kua maj naus (lemon) ntawv, ces ho coj mus pleev niag mog niag me ntxhais hauv nws ob ceg xwb.
Tus nplawg hais tas, yog niag pog ntsaaj thiab quaj ces nws hais tam hmo ntawv kom ntawv tsis txhob muaj kev hlub xwb.
Puas muaj lwm yam precautions thiab protection uas nej cov hluas paub thiab tau siv thaum nej mus muaj kev zoo siab rau sab ntuj tim ub?
zaajlaug
Zoo li koj hais yog lawm mas. Cov laus ces lawv tus tub twb tsis pab ua hauj lawm rau lawv lawm ces, yeej kag yuav tau muab lub tsaj ntswm thiab tus nplaig pab xwb, thiaj li yuav zoo siab mas.
Qhov koj yog qhov kuv pheej hais tas zog mas, vim thaum nws muab lub tsaj ntswm tsaus rau hauv ob ceg lawm ces nws tus nplaig thaj le kis tau kaab mob, vim tas nws pheej yaim, nqus, thiab nti tawm (ib txha ces, nqos kiag lawm thiab).
Aj yam..kuv muaj ib yam nplawg mas nyam nyam moog tim mub heev kawg. Nws qhov precautions thiab protection ces tsuas yog nqa ib co maj naus (lemon) nrog nws xwb. Nws hais tas, ua ntej nwg yuav nrug ib tug tuab neeg muaj kev hlub mas nws yuav tau nyem ib lub maj naus kom tawg, ces muab ob tug ntiv tes pleev cov kua maj naus (lemon) ntawv, ces ho coj mus pleev niag mog niag me ntxhais hauv nws ob ceg xwb.
Tus nplawg hais tas, yog niag pog ntsaaj thiab quaj ces nws hais tam hmo ntawv kom ntawv tsis txhob muaj kev hlub xwb.
Puas muaj lwm yam precautions thiab protection uas nej cov hluas paub thiab tau siv thaum nej mus muaj kev zoo siab rau sab ntuj tim ub?
zaajlaug
Moghlub
Nov 23, 2012, 1:34:20 PM11/23/12
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Zaajlaug,
Sov ua le koj tug npawg ntawd has puas yuav work es.
1. sov kua maj naus puas yuav ntsuag tau
2. Yug yuav ua caag zais lub maj naus es tug pog txhaj tsi pum/paub
3. Ib ntsis tug pog tsi txaus sab rua yug nev
Qhov kws cobphum (puajphais) tshaaj plawg ces yog txhob moog kov xwb mas txhaj le puaj phais xwb os... hehehehehehe... Tawm sis ntuj nis ntuj aw.... lub nyuas tswx mog hab ceevx ntawd mas ua caag yuav qaab sab ua luaj le hab os.... hahahahahahahaha.....
M
Sov ua le koj tug npawg ntawd has puas yuav work es.
1. sov kua maj naus puas yuav ntsuag tau
2. Yug yuav ua caag zais lub maj naus es tug pog txhaj tsi pum/paub
3. Ib ntsis tug pog tsi txaus sab rua yug nev
Qhov kws cobphum (puajphais) tshaaj plawg ces yog txhob moog kov xwb mas txhaj le puaj phais xwb os... hehehehehehe... Tawm sis ntuj nis ntuj aw.... lub nyuas tswx mog hab ceevx ntawd mas ua caag yuav qaab sab ua luaj le hab os.... hahahahahahahaha.....
M
zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 27, 2012, 12:31:32 AM11/27/12
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Tham mus tham los, zoo li kuj yog dag nej, zoo li kuj hais tiag tiag thiab.
Cov hluas aw...qhov tseeb ces kuj tsis paub, tab sis hnov no los los hnag ces
tseem ua rau kuv nco nco kuv niag pob mob tsuas kawg kiag thiab.
Thaj uas siv maj naws mas kuv tsis tau siv thiab pom dua li, tiam siv mas kuv
npawg hais tias nws yeej work kawg li. Nws mas nqa maj naws tas li xwb, yog hais
tias niag pog nug tias, "yog vim li cas koj ho nqa maj naus nrog koj", no ces
kuv niag npawg hais tias, "nqa maj naus tuaj rau koj tuav qaub rau wb noj xwb".
Cog pog ces tsis paub dab tsis, ces txawm coj maj naus coj mus tuav qaub lawm
tiag tiag.
zajlaug
Cov hluas aw...qhov tseeb ces kuj tsis paub, tab sis hnov no los los hnag ces
tseem ua rau kuv nco nco kuv niag pob mob tsuas kawg kiag thiab.
Thaj uas siv maj naws mas kuv tsis tau siv thiab pom dua li, tiam siv mas kuv
npawg hais tias nws yeej work kawg li. Nws mas nqa maj naws tas li xwb, yog hais
tias niag pog nug tias, "yog vim li cas koj ho nqa maj naus nrog koj", no ces
kuv niag npawg hais tias, "nqa maj naus tuaj rau koj tuav qaub rau wb noj xwb".
Cog pog ces tsis paub dab tsis, ces txawm coj maj naus coj mus tuav qaub lawm
tiag tiag.
zajlaug
Phuajxab
Nov 27, 2012, 4:47:23 AM11/27/12
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Kuv pom koj tuaj tawm tswv yim ntau lawm tab si Ntshai yuav siv tsi tau nawv kua
Txiv mabnaus muaj ceem heev yog koj siv rau luag tej nqaij mmos liab plaim li
ntawm mas yuav mob heev thiab thev tsi taus kiag nawv, Ua zoo Tsam ces tim lub
nyuag Mabnaus ntaws ua rau yus rig tsho ntuag tag mam los txog tsev ov. Los xyov
Tseem yuav mus zov kiag lub nyuag teb chaws nplog thiab.
Ua zoo tus ntse ces lam hais dag kom lom zem, Tus ruam ces yuav khaws coj mus
siv. Kuv yuav piav mme rau koj tias nyob rau peb sab ntuj tim no muaj ib yawg
thaub hnub nyoog ze 60 xyoo lawm, Nws tos tau ib tug niam mos ab
tuaj txog, Yawg thaub ntawm nws yeej npaj tau ib co tshuaj tim thaibteb los,cov
Tshuaj no nws hais tias yog tiv thaiv kab mob sib kis ntawm poj niam thiab txiv
neej, Thaum tus niam mos ab tuaj txog ces yawg thaub no yuav nrog pw, ua ntej
ces txawm muab cov tshuaj no txhaj rau lub chaw mo mam li nrog pw. Mas mob heev yeej thev tsi taus li, Tus niam mos ab tuaj nyob tau 3.4 hli nco tsi zoo lawm
ces nws tiv tsi taus tus yawg thaub no Pheej muab nws txhaj tshuaj muaj ib hnub
nws thiaj li nyiag tau kev khiav tawm mus cuag tau cov tub ceev xwm, Luag
tau coj nws mus ceev cia thiab tshawb txog cov teeb meem uas tau muaj los. Kuj
yog zoo tias tus Niam mos ab no tsi kam Foob yawg rau tsoomhwv Yawg thiaj li tsi tau nyob nkuaj, Ces tus niam mos ab thiaj li tau rov qab mus tsev Rau Nplog
teb lawm, Kuv yuav tsi qhia nkawm txij nkawm nov npe thiab tus neeg rau nej
los txhob xav li cas, Zaj no yeej muaj tseeb nyuam qhuav tau 2 xyoos los no xwb
tiag.
Yam twg yog yuav yuam kev yuav tau zam nawv.
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
Nov 27, 2012, 5:45:42 AM11/27/12
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zajlau...@hotmail.com
Nov 27, 2012, 11:58:37 PM11/27/12
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Phujxab aws..
Koj yeej hais yog kawg kiag li lawm os. Lub sijhaum peb tab tom xav no xwb ces hmoob txhua leej txhua tus twb mus siv kuv tus npaug tej tsev yim no tas lawm os.
Kuv niag npaug ces, nws hais tias lub txiv majnaus mas yog ib lub tseem ceeb tshaj plaws no. Nws mua cov example nram qab no:
1. Nqa majnaus noj ua si (noj ntsuag ntsev) thaum mus nyob ntawm hluas nkauj ib sab.
2. Nqa majnaus thiaj li tau qaub noj; vim hluas nkauj pluag pluag li os
3. Nqa majnaus es thiaj li tau nrog hluas nkauj sib tawb sib thab sis txheeb maj naus ua si
4. Nqa majnaus es yus thiaj li tau muab xyem kom taug kiag ua si, thiab coj los pleev yus, thiab niag pog....hehehe
more later txog lub majnaus
Yog nej tsis nqa ces tu siab lau
Koj yeej hais yog kawg kiag li lawm os. Lub sijhaum peb tab tom xav no xwb ces hmoob txhua leej txhua tus twb mus siv kuv tus npaug tej tsev yim no tas lawm os.
Kuv niag npaug ces, nws hais tias lub txiv majnaus mas yog ib lub tseem ceeb tshaj plaws no. Nws mua cov example nram qab no:
1. Nqa majnaus noj ua si (noj ntsuag ntsev) thaum mus nyob ntawm hluas nkauj ib sab.
2. Nqa majnaus thiaj li tau qaub noj; vim hluas nkauj pluag pluag li os
3. Nqa majnaus es thiaj li tau nrog hluas nkauj sib tawb sib thab sis txheeb maj naus ua si
4. Nqa majnaus es yus thiaj li tau muab xyem kom taug kiag ua si, thiab coj los pleev yus, thiab niag pog....hehehe
more later txog lub majnaus
Yog nej tsis nqa ces tu siab lau
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
Nov 28, 2012, 8:25:51 AM11/28/12
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Yaj Tshaj Koob
Nov 28, 2012, 8:42:46 AM11/28/12
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On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:58:37 PM UTC-6, zajlau...@hotmail.com wrote:
Koj yog yawm ibobpeb lawm koj hais lus tsi meej thiab, lo lus tias noj txiv qaub "ntsuag ntsev" no tsi meej lawm, tus hais meej mas hais tias " noj txiv qaub Ntxuag Ntsev" no pob. nws yog Ntxuag ntsev, tsi yog ntsuag ntsev, hahahaha.
YTK
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