MUAS CHOJ SIV DAB TSI PAUV LANGXANG?
neohmong
Li kuv twb noog rau Pejxeem Hmoob lawm, ua li nej leej twg puas paub
qhov tseeb tias Muas Choj siv yam khoom dab tsi thiaj li muas/yuav tau
lub npe Langxang rau Muas Choj? Kuv hnov mas yam khoom Muas Choj siv
ntawd yog ib yam khoom me me xwb tab sis muaj nqis thiab muaj zog heev
li es thiaj ntaus tau Huab Tais Nplog tsev neeg lub siab muag es Huab
Tais thiaj ua siab muab Langxang pub rau Muas Choj kav no laid. Nej
puas muaj leej twg paub ntau tshaj qhov kuv hnov no ma?
NeoHmong
XejThim
Yog koj paub yam khoom MC muab pauv ntawd ces ciali spell out kiag xwb
los mas cas tseem yuav kom peb twv thiab nas. Yog pheej hais zas zas
li koj ces kuv yeej tsuas twv tias yog muab poj niam khoom ob ceg coj
mus pauv es thiaj li ua rau king nplog siab muag ntas no xwb tiag.
Puas yog li ntawd mas?
Sub MS hos tsis koom nrog VP qhab naj es nws tseem khiav mus npuab
nplog lawm thiab lov? MC tsev neeg twb yeej ib txwm noj vp tej kauv
tes kauv taws puag thaum ub los txog hnub yawg txiv tau tso ntiaj teb
tseg es ziag no tseem hos tawg ntawm vp lawm thiab. Los yog MS pom
meej tias vp txoj hauv kev tw lawm no ne? Txawm li ntawd los pam xeeb
yog yus tus yawm yij diam yuav tsum tau muab tswv yim thiab pab paub,
cas tseem xav noj kheej thiab?
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wty
Neohmong aw, ua cas koj yuav hnov cov xov qaub pob ntseg ua luaj li
nab! Kuv xav hais tias tsis yog HUab Tais Blog muab Lanxang rau Muas
Choj tabsis yog Muas Choj muab koj, kuv, nej, peb muag rau Huab Tais
tas lawm xwb. You and I have been unknowingly given to Huab Tais Blog
as hunting dogs to hunt for Huab Tais xwb.
wty
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ceeb_v
Ua cas koj yuav teb Neohmong raug siab ua luaj li naj. On your first
paragraph, where did you get your source from?
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tseemyeej
Es pos yog "Phev" naj?
Tseemyeej.
Note: (Phev=pheth=diamond.)
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neohmong
Tsis yog kuv zais, qhov tseeb kuv yeej paub tsis meej tias yog yam
khoom dab tsis tiag. Yog li thiaj li tau noog nej sawv daws xwb.
Kuv los yeej xav tau li koj hais tias yuav tsum yog yam khoom txiv
neej nkaus xwb mas thiaj li yuav ntxias tau Huab Tais Nplog tus tub
xwb. Li cas los cia seb puas muaj tus paub tseeb tshaj qhov wb xav
tau thiab xwb laud.
Tam kuv paub mas MC yeej ib txwm nrog VP thiab yeej yuav tsis tsiv
tawm ntawm VP kiag li. Hais txog Langxang ces yog ib qho pleev qhov
muag (a political propaganda) rau sawv daws pom xwb, qhov tseeb ces VP
thiab MC nkawv yeej taug tib txoj kev xwb.
NeoHmong
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Moobsib
Mej- especially, Neohmong, Xejthim hab Tseemyeej- puav leej yog ib cov
txiv neeg qoog txuj hab thoob tsib to nrog txaus lawm, ua caag ho moog
muab lub topic nuav caav ntxuag dlev, ntxuag npua lawd? Nam kuag kaab,
kuag hlau le kuv nuav xaav mas ib nyuas dlhau nrim zog lawd. Yuav tau
txuag mej lub fwjchim hab nawb. Yog mej pheej dlha huam khaaj dlhau
nrim le ntawd ces, tej zag, yuav ua rua coob leej xaav tau los yog
ntaus nqe tas mej yeej ua num rua Nplog Lab tag nua laiv. Saib Pejxeem
Hmoob tub muab Neohmong lam/liam kag ua Nplog Lab lawm nev.
Taab txawm tas Muas Choj yuav sawv huv ob tsev neeg mej teev tseg sau
nuav los peb suav dlawg yuav tau pub lub caij rua nwg proof rua peb
suav dlawg saib nwg puas taug cov laug txuj qub lw. Ua ke ntawd, kuv
ntseeg has tas, txawm paab twg pawg twg tho tau txuj hauv kev rua suav
dlawg taug los yeej yuav kawg yog mej cov kub zuag zuag ntawm ko nrug
ua ncej ru, ncej kaum mas txhaj le rua hab khov. Yog le mas thov kuas
suav dlawg yuav caav los kuas caav raws kaab, raws kev mas txhaj yuav
zoo rua yug haiv neeg.
Ntawm pluaj sab hlub hab movtshua,
Moobsib
wty
Txawm Muas Choj muab dab tsi muas huab tais nplog los tsis tseem ceeb.
Kuv xav hais tias peb tsis tas yuav paub vim txawm paub los peb yeej
us tsis tau dab tsi. Tabsis yog be have grown up lam no kuv xav hais
tias peb yuav either stay out of Muaj Choj's road or support him vim
leej twg los coj Hmoob los yeej yuav tsum muab Hmoob muag rau tus ub
tus no xwb.
wty
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Charlie
Cov neeg koj hais no kuv tsis suav hais tias lawv yog Hmoob lawm.
Txawm licas los puam chawj; lawd cav tsis yog ib co tsiaj li qaib,
npua, nyuj, nees, thiab twm. Lawd puav leej yog neeg. Tsuav lawd
tsis ntshai txaj muag xwb. Cov neeg no tos lawd nyiam hais lus phem
xwb los simneej no yeej tsis muaj leejtwg paub txog hais tias lawd zoo
licas thiab yuav pab tau Hmoob dabtsi. Cov no koj xav hais tias
tejzaum Hmoob tsis yuav lawm ces Nplog Liab yuav txais mus; cov neeg
no mas Nplogliab hajyam tsis xav pub lawd txav ti. Tsis ua licas, ib
haiv neeg twg yeej muaj ib pab neeg zoo lino. Cov no ces tag rau qhov
lawd tuaj hais li koj pom no lawm.
Tseg ib ntus no Os Dej tsis zov pas dej lawm ua rau qav tawm tuaj qog
qis qos lawm xwb; ua rau koj "Moobsib" tus uas ibtxwm tsis tuaj
leejtwg tog mloog tsis tau li lawm puas yog? Koj puas nco kuv thiab?
Tsuas yog kuv tib leeg xwb pab Hma no thiaj cav tsis dhau, vim kuv
paub lawv zoo thiab lawv txoj kev xav. Cov neeg no mas zoo li cov maum
aub es koj cem thiab xuas pas nplawm tasli xwb mas thiaj ib nyuag
mloog hais; yog koj hais zoo thiab koj tseem pov daim puav nqaij rog
rau noj mas koj ntaus tsis khiav li lau. Neeg los zoo ib yam tej dev
no ho.
Charlie
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tseemyeej
You know well that it was a joke, time to time, I have to break the
ice intending to deter the tension. I never mean to harm any body. If
I've gone to far, please accept my deep and sincere appolgy. As an old
friend, I hope Muas Choj doesn't mind my joke.
Yog koj chis dhlaus heev nuas ces cas kuv pas ib zag joke pub koj
noog:
Kuv nyav moog nrug puab noj mos cov zog lug, ib leej nam hav ruas tug
miv ntxhais has tas:
- "Miv ntxhais koj tuav cov hov txob nuav es ntsiv peb haj tauv noj"
Tug miv ntxhais teb tas:
- "Awd..."
Ib ntsiv puav raus taus mov txhwj vug ces leej nam txhaj nug tas:
- "Miv ntxhais koj cov hov txob nev?"
Tug miv ntxhais teb tas:
- "Nyob nuav nev?"
Leej nam saib saib ces has tas:
- " Caag koj tsua tsis tuav naj?
Tug miv ntxhais teb tas:
- " Nam... es kuv tub tuav tsawv nuav nev?" Hahahahaha....
You get it?
Tseemyeej.
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Moobsib
Yog ho yuav muab cov neeg koj has ntawd classified le ko mas peb haj
yam yuav muaj tsi taug kev twjlij (freedom) hab kev thaaj yeeb. Tsuas
ntshai nej cov kubxaj ho muaj solid proof tas lawv yog dev raws nqaij
rau Nplog Liab xwb. Tsis li ntawd ces each of them merely express
their true feeling and value on matters which have been brought to the
table.
Tej zag kuj yuav zoo yog koj ua zoo tig rov mus ntsia koj txoj qub lw.
Li cas los xij, ua tsaug ntau.
Moobsib
Moobsib
Yog mej has txug kev ua saub le kuv mas kuv pum tas yog kev tso dlaaj
tso luag kuas nub hab hli poob sai xwb ov. Kuv ntseeg has tas yog koj
yog koj tug kheej dlha ib txuj num le Muas Choj es peb muab tso dlaaj,
tso luag le ntawd los ntshai yuav ua rua koj ceeb laaj tis xaav sawm
hab. However if you see it as a joke, so be it.
Movtshua,
Moobsib
ceeb_v
I think we need to study well among all different political factions
within our own community before supporting or promoting any of them.
The fact that so many groups have their own visions, thus create
tensions among ourselves. Those of you who wish to be our leader in
the future, including individual name like Moua Sao, must come up with
better vision than what you presented.
Personally, I do not know who Moua Sao is. May be he is just another
typical man worked so hard to meet daily family needs. That is not
enough to be a politician or leader. I just do not see these
individuals are leaders, may be luckily leaders to their own sibling
family. A leader must be equipped much much more than you can
imagine.
It is not easy like say, you cannot just give a pussy for the King
overnight and you become King.
This is just my humble opinion.....
Ceeb
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ceeb_v
I think we need to study well among all different political factions
within our own community before supporting or promoting any of them.
The fact that so many groups have their own visions, thus create
tensions among ourselves. Those of you who wish to be our leader in
the future, including individual name like Moua Sao, must come up with
better vision than what you presented.
Personally, I do not know who Moua Sao is. May be he is just another
typical man worked so hard to meet daily family needs. That is not
enough to be a politician or leader. I just do not see these
individuals are leaders, may be luckily leaders to their own sibling
family. A leader must be equipped much much more than you can
imagine.
It is not easy like say, you cannot just give a pussy for the King
overnight and you become King.
This is just my humble opinion.....
Ceeb
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neohmong
Ua tsaug ntau rau koj cov lus cheem. Yog kuv noog li no es ho dhau
nom nrim zog lawm no los thov zam kham nawb. Li kuv teb rau Xejthim,
qhov tseeb yog kuv xav paub tias yog MC siv yam khoom dab tsi mus pauv
Langxang xwb.
Kuv lub tsib lus yog xav kom Hmoob cov coj tsis txhob siv "Hmoob" mus
pauv ub pauv no rau lawv ntxiv lawm xwb. Kuv xav kom lawv siv lawv
lub tswv yim txheej ceeb mus pauv yam khoom uas lawv ntshaw thiab yam
lawv xav tau es tsis yog siv "Hmoob txoj sia, roj ntsha, thiab lub cev
ntaj ntsug" mus pauv li thaum peb hnov tias tog koomsam (communist)
siv cov ntxhais zoo zoo nkauj tuaj ntxias cov nom kubxaj tim Vibnais
xwb.
Yog tias MC tsis tau ua li peb ib txhia hnov ntawd ces tej lus kuv
noog yawg no tsis muaj qab ntxhiab/nuj nqis rau yawg li. Tsis tag li
xwb, kuv cov lus noog no yeej tsis chwv thiab yeej tsis sav tsam yawg
li vim yawg twb tsis tau ua li tau noog ntawd ned, qhov tseeb, kuv cov
lus kawg ua tshauv ua theej yaj nrog huab nrog cua mus xwb. Tab sis
yog ho muaj tseeb li peb hnov ntawd mas kuj yog ib qho tsis zoo rau
yawg MC kiag li.
Li cas los peb cov lus sib pauv mus los no tsis tseem ceeb dab tsi vim
hais tias MC twb tsis los teb sawv daws qhov tseeb tias yog muaj li
cas rau li cas tiag ces kawg cia li xwb. Tab sis yog yawg MC tsis los
tshab txhais kom meej ces kawg ib txhia yuav tau ntseeg li lawv hnov
ntawd laid; qhov no, yuav ua rau sawv daws tsis txhawb yawg MC ntxiv
yog tias ib tug thawj es mus siv tej tom fab qis li no xwb.
NeoHmong
TX: Hmoobsib, ua siab loj, nyaj yog NeoHmong, Xejthim, thiab
Tseemyeej sim seb Muas Choj hawj thiab xob npaum li cas xwb.
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neohmong
Cas yuav ua ko tw pau ua luaj li, tsis yog raug kubxaj sam lawm los
cas. Txhob poob siab kiag li, lawv (NeoHmong, Xejthim, thiab
Tseemyeej) "Cov neeg no mas zoo li cov maum aub es koj cem thiab xuas
pas nplawm tasli xwb mas thiaj ib nyuag mloog hais," tab sis qhov
tseeb tiag, lawv cov no (NeoHmong, Xejthim, thiab Tseemyeej) hais me
me xwb los cas nim yuav ntaub ntaub yawg Charlie thiab nws pab kubxaj
pob kub li. Yog lawv tseem hais kiag tej niam lus loj thiab mas ntshe
Charlie thiab nws pab kubxaj cia li huab cheej li pob.
Charlie, ua siab loj, lawv cov no (NeoHmong, Xejthim, thiab Tseemyeej)
yog maum dev xwb lawv ua tsis tau dab tsi rau koj thiab koj tus huab
tais li os yawg. Tiam sim lwm zaus yog koj tus txiv dev Charlie no
tuaj hais lus hauv SCH no yuav tsum tsis txhob pau pau ko tw lawm es
thiaj li tsis raug lawv cov maum aub no zim kaus rau koj lawm nawb.
Tsis ntawd ces tus txiv dev Charlie no kawg mag cov maum aub no caum
ua pos tw nthoob see roob lees ploj ntais rov rau MI lawm xwb nawb.
Zoo li koj tsis zeem kiag li yuam. Tsam koj ho txaj txaj qhov muag
tuaj feem tag nrho ib tsoom zeej hauv SCH no, cia ua li no, kuv,
NeoHmong, rov caw koj tuaj nrog peb koom txheej koom sob dua. Tiam
sis zaum no koj tuaj no ces npaj coj lus tib neeg tuaj nrog sawv daws
hais es tsis txhob coj lus "DEV Charlie" tuaj hais lawm nawb. Nco
ntsoov od, yog yus coj lus tsiaj tuaj tham ces yus tau lus tsiaj ris
rov qab xwb nawd.
NeoHmong
TX: Charlie, puas koj hais tias peb (NeoHmong, Xejthim, thiab
Tseemyeej) tsis txawj noj mov thiab tsis tau rua qhov muag no nab?
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solid...@yahoo.com
Moua Sao could be an ordinary working individual, so did DYD? after
being equiped with a ph.d from france in 1972 he was installed,
without any previous political experiences, in a high political
position by GVP. so he is your splendid politician right? es koj ned,
koj yog ib niag kaw taw liab xwb ua cas ho xav hais tias koj thiaj yog
the real politician ma? txhob lam hai lus phem rau lwm tus yuav tau
lawv prove lawv tus kheej tso mad yawg YAJ CEEB.
ua li cas npawg ceeb qhov uas koj mus xyuas lawv ncaws npa pem mn ko?
pej xeem hmoob puas tuaj coob thiab?
PXM
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tseemyeej
Fab kis hais tias:"Dans la cite des aveugles, c'est le borgne qui est
roi." Txhais hais tias tag nej cuab kwv tij hmoob Xyooj(khamkeuth)tsa
koj los ua tus PUAB TAIS kav nej tsev neeg vim koj yog tus pom kev dua
ntawm nej pawg, but it doesn't mean that you will be king of Neohmong
or XejThim and Tseemyeej. Koj tus pas ntaus dev is telling me that you
are still far behind us.
We all had past that task long before you were born, O.K? Only Freedom
and Democracy could rule our lives, nothing else.
Tseemyeej.
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ceeb_v
Of course, DYD is the same ordinary man like all of us. Although from
what I know about DYD, he has far more capable than Mouas Choj, as far
as being a leader. Way back in Laos, DYD was appointed to his what
ever position he held by the Royal Lao government. VP had nothing to
do with DYD, except DYD has lots of respect to GVP. The bottom line
between DYD and GVP. High education versus none education. So, the
one who has almost none education was so afraid that those who have
high education will take the leadership away from him. So, he
purposely created all kinds of problem for those who hold high
education. It was not only DYD, there were so many cases in the past
all the way until today. Vim li ntawd khwv txeeb lub tebchaws
Lostsuas npaum li cas los txhiaj li tsi mus tsi los.
I am not DYD's splendid politician nor politician on my own. I am who
I am. Before, I used to follow GVP for so long. I finally found that
I work to make others' pocket fat only. And I know that one of these
days, these fat guys will end up shooting their own hom, burning their
own houses, and end up in Jail. So, I left them few years ago.
I was so busy. In fact, I have never had time go watching soccer nor
attending those corruption activities. Beside, I have no interest.
They mean no value to me.
Ceeb
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neohmong
Koj mus ci qos nrog yawg laus MC txaus lawm los kas, ua cas mus lawm
ntseg to li. Kuv tseem npaj tos koj cov lus teb rau lwm daim post
nad, los yog koj tsa chij dawb lawm ma yawg. Los yog koj mus mag kua
nceb ntawm yawg laus MC es koj thiaj li zooj twj ywm li lawm mad.
Txhob txhawj xeeb, kuv twb hais rau koj thiab koj tus yawg laus MC
tias yog tsis kam sib cav los yeej tsis yuam kiag li no ned.
NeoHmong
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Charlie
Cov "kubxaj" li kuv no mas xam hais tias yog lawv cov "yeebncuab" ces
tsis tas yuav kom lawv hais zoo lawm! Uali Moua Sao, Nkauj Nyiag,
thiab Zoov Khab lawv cov no ho txhaum cov hma no dabtsi? Yog koj paub
no thov qhia es kom peb paub hais tias lawv tseem yog Hmoob thiab.
Raws li kuv tsom xwb mas zoo li cov tib neeg no tsis muaj Hmoob nyob
hauv lawv lawm. Qiv Hmoob plab yug xwb.
Yog koj ho tsis paub los kuj xij thiab. Ua tsaug!
Charlie
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Charlie
Zoo! Yog hais tias koj twb dhau tej uas kuv hais no uantej yug kuv
lawm. Cia kuv mam soj qab taug lw saib puas muaj yog li koj hais no.
Txawm licas los koj tuaj tshiab ces I'll give you the benefit of the
doubt. Hos "Neohmong" ces kuv xav hais tias lam ziab tshav ntuj laus
xwb tiag, tiag li. Tau 2-3 lub xyoo no yeej hais tsis tau ib lo lus
zoo rau leejtwg li; tsam no ces tig mus ntxo Moua Sao thiab
Nkaujnyiag.
Kuv tsis tau hais tias kuv yuav ua nej ntej tabsis yog zoo li ib txhia
hauv no xwb - kuv tsis lam poob qab ibzaug.
Hais txog cov Hmoob Xyooj - Khamkeuth. Kuv nyuag lo ntswg li lino xwb
koj twb xyiv fab hais tias yog lawv Huabtais lawm. Ua li yog koj
ntsib kiag Huab Tais Khamkeuth thiab no ho yuav zoo licas. Hmoob
Khamkeuth muaj coob laid.
Kuv yuav tsis lam kam los ua nej tus King yoojyim; tabtxawm hais tias
nej thov kuv kiag los yeej tsis tau. Tabsis, nrog nej ua tus "puab
tais" xwb mas txawj kawg.
Charlie
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Moobsib
Kuv xaav tas lub zim txwv no if we can't win our enemies' heart then
there is no way we are going to win the war- political or otherwise.
Rho koj lub muas txwv pemthaj los siv maj...
MS
XejThim
Zoo siab koj tseem xauj txog peb cov lus peb teb yawg neohmong tej lus
nug thiab. Kuv tsis paub tias xyov yawg MC muab nws yam khoom twg coj
los pauv nws txoj kas moos, txawm yuav yog nws muab dab tsi los qhov
ntawd yeej tsis tseem ceeb rau peb...ntawd yog nws dej nws num. Tab
sis cov lus kuv tau teb neohmong mas kuv tsuas yog teb tam li nws nqaj
lus nug xwb. Ua li kuv twb yeej ceeb toom rau nws lawm, yog nws paub
es pheej tsis qhia es yuav kom twv xwb ces kawg yuav tau twv li qhov
yus xav xwb. Raws li neohmong nqaj lus nug mas tias MC muab dab tsi
pauv langxab es thiaj li ua rau king nplog lub siab muag ntas no kuv
thiaj li tau twv tias kawg yog pojniam li khoom xwb thiaj li ua tau
rau txiv neej (King)lub siab muag ntas. Kuv xav tias xyov MC yuav
react li cas yog thaum nws pom kuv zaj lus twv. Tam kuv xav xwb mas
kuv twb tsis tau liam tias yog nws muab khoom pojniam pauv no yog li
nws yuav tsis pom qab chim rau kuv. Yog ias nws ho xav tias kuv twv
dhau cai hwv lawm no los cia kuv mam li nrog nws tham. Ua tsaug!
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XejThim
tw ntsuas rau Neohmong lawm cas ziag no tseem cav tuaj kes tes kes
taws hais tias luag zoo li yog maum dev no nas.
charli...@yahoo.com (Charlie) wrote in message news:<bd1cd63a.04070...@posting.google.com>...
tseemyeej
> Zoo! Yog hais tias koj twb dhau tej uas kuv hais no uantej yug kuv
> lawm. Cia kuv mam soj qab taug lw saib puas muaj yog li koj hais no.
HMOOB US muaj 4 pab:
1/-Hmoob NIAG MOOS(Nong Het/Longcheng) yog cov xub ua qhev, xub ua
nom, xub txawj ntawv, xub vam meej, xub pom freedom, Xub pom
democracy, xub tso hauj lwm qab rooj tseg: Txiaj Xab's family,
Lyfoung's family, Laobliayao's family, Suav Yaj, Ntsuab Vaj, Soob Lwj,
Ham Choj. A lot of VP's family quit too, don't you know that. I'm
included among those hmoob NIAG MOOS.
2/-Hmoob MOOS PHEEB yog cov sawv tom qab thiab tab tom tsis txuag zog
kiag. Ntsuab Rwg, Nchaiv Laaj, Vaaj Sawm, Rock...Cov no sau nyiaj
hnyav. About 10 yrs ago, muaj ib npluav rog nyob Merced(MOOS PHEEB's
Headquarter). Lawv sib txeeb "pab txha lofabelis"(Lao Family) cov
MoosPheeb Locked cov LoojCeeb qhov rooj ib tsam, cov LoojCeeb Locked
cov MoosPheeb ib tsam, npaum nkaus KongLe & Souphanouvong lawv ua "Rog
Tshis Sib Laub" tom plain des jars. Ua ua ua hli qaij hehehe... Thaum
kawg mus txog court luag txiav txim kom muab cov nyiaj hauv account
coj los faib rau 2 yawg lawyers ces tsum. 2-3 xyoos dhau los lawv sib
txeeb tib tug pab txha qub nyob Sacramento, ua tib yam nkaus cov
MOOSPHHEB swb kiag cov LOOJCEEB zaum ntawd os...Hawhawhawhaw...
3/-Pab MOOSLOOB/NABYUB pom kev vam meej tom qab kawg, niaj hnub no
nyob(USA)lawv hu peb hu ua "HMOOB XAV TUM". Lawv yeej tsis to taub
tias XAVTUM yog dab tsi? Lawv hais kwv txhiaj "niam dab yeeb ncuab
melika siab phem siab tsis zoo". Khab Mib, Pov Lis Muas yog cov thawj.
Pov Lis tsuas niaj hnub mus ua teb ua chaw xwb thaum kawg teb chaws
tuaj ua yawg(Tus me niam yaus nrog poj ntxoog pais lawm awb...!). Nyob
USA, pab no muaj teeb meem nrog YEEB heev vim thaum ub lawv nyob ze
golden triangle.
4/-Pab KHAMKEUTH yog pab uas thaum Fabkis tuaj(1893) ntshai ua
"coolie" khawb kev 15 hnub thiaj khiav dua nram Khamkeuth Khammouane
lawm 3-4 tiam neeg. VP's era (60's) peb thiaj rov los sib ntsib. Nej
thawj phaum nom ces yog Tshuas Ntaj, Txiaj Xab, Neej Saub, Tshuas
Dawb...Nej phaum hluas kuj tseem rau siab kawg nkaus pab lub teb lub
chaw nej cov hauv paus nyob Wausau, Oroville and Detroit. Nej haj
tseem sau nyiaj hnyav kawg no laiv, hnov tias cov khiav tuaj coob coob
tam sim no yog cov tuaj Lav Xos (km20)tuaj.
Yog muaj khub lus twg khav khoob no nug tau.
TseeYeej.
Moobsib
2 xyoos dlhau lug kuv moog txug tim laav 52. Muaj ib tug kwv thaam rua
kuv noog tas muaj ib paab Moob Khamkeuth lug nrug puab nyob huv laav
52. Muaj ib zag puab moog has plaug kwx ib tog yog cov Hmoob
Khamkeuth. Cov Hmoob Vientiane tsi tau ntsib dlua los paub txug Hmoob
Khamkeuth tug cwjpwm ces puab txawm xaav tas yuav zoo li puab. Thaus
txug caij ua caag cov Hmoob Khamkeuth tuaj puv tsev. Pib has nthawv
nthaav xwb ces Hmoob Khamkeuth rhu nrig, rhu qus lug nrug has xwb mas
cov txwjlaug hab cov qhua plaug dlha tsi yeej. Dlhau ntawd ces txhua
zag muaj plaub nrug cov Hmoob Khamkeuth nomtswv txhaj npaaj tub
ceevxwm txaus txaus tog....
MS
neohmong
Tsis txhob poob siab ma, tij laug Hmoobsib tsuas yog lam kos ciaj ciam
tias nyuj muaj nyub kab nees muaj nees kev xwb. Kuv tsis xav tias tij
laug Hmoobsib yuav chaws koj qhov ntswg kiag li.
Txawm li cas los xij peem, MC twb tsis kam los teb kuv cov lus noog
hlo li, qhov no sawv daws yuav muab txhais li cas los tau tag vim sawv
daws twb tsis paub qhov tseeb es thiaj li tau noog yawg MC xwb. Ua li
koj hais, yog kuv noog li no xwb es twb ho txhaum yawg MC thiab ho
tsiv mloog rau ib tsoo npoj yaig hauv SCH no lawm los kawg kuv mam li
thov txim xwb.
NeoHmong
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neohmong
Zoo heev, koj qib txam paub txog txheej keeb puav vis kev ntab ntws
ntawm Hmoob lub zij ceeb no tsis yog dog dig kiag li nawb yuam. Kuv
xav tias kuv yog ib tus uas caum Hmoob qab txoj hmoob lw ntxaws kawg
li no tab sis kuv ces poob qab deb heev li...hos koj mas thiaj yog tus
caum cuag Hmoob qab thiab zeem thoob Hmoob lw tiag od.
Txawm li cas los kuv tso siab twj ywm rau nruab siab tias koj yog ib
tug khov ntawm peb cov hluas no lawm ntag nawd. Ua luag tej laus hais
"pom dua tsis ua dua."
NeoHmong
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Moobsib
Kuv xam pom tias tej laus qee leej tsi nyiam mloog sawv daws tej lus
thuam, lus qhuab, lus ntuas. Lawv tsuas ywj lawv lub siab kom lawv tau
kheej yam tsi xav thiab hlub txog yus haiv neeg. Lawv thiaj coj yus
haiv neeg maub nuj nuag rau txoj kev liam sim, pemsij, puas ntsoog ua
rau feem coob tau tab ncuab (pitty) txog yus haiv neeg lub neej. Txawm
li ntawd los xij, sawv daws yeej ua tsi tau dab tsi ntau los daws los
yog hloov yus haiv neeg txoj hau kev. Sawv daws yeej yog cia li suffer
all along.
Peb sawv daws niaj hnub tuaj cav pem hauv no feem ntau yeej tab hais
txog tseeb tsim (politics) ntawm yus haiv neeg xwb. Yog li no mas
thaum tej tus neeg li Muas Choj tuaj nrog peb sib faib tswv yim thiab
cavpem peb yuav tsum tsi txhob nrhiav lus los tshom kom fab luag es
luag thiaj nyob nrog peb cav pem. Yog yus paub thiab pom tej yam uas
luag coj los ua ntxim yuav tsi meej pem los yog tsi zoo rau yus haiv
neeg mas yuav tau txav zog tham zaum puav saib tus neeg ntawd puas
cooperate los li cas. I mean we aught to be more diplomatic. Each of
us have to exhaust our right and fair effocts before jump into certain
conclusion.
Xyov nej cov kwv los cov tij thiab nkauj muam sawv daws xav li cas tab
sis ntawm kuv tus kheej mas kuv xav tias peb yuav tsum tau muab lub
chance rau txhua tus. Ua ke ntawd yuav tau pub lub caij rau txhua leej
thuam, qhuas thiab qhuab ntuas yus mas thiaj zoo.
Li cas los xij, nej sawv daws yijmeem rau siab nro nthuav txuj pub peb
thiab. Kuv tus laus no yeej xeev xwm tias kuv kawm tau ntawm nej ntau
kawg. Kuv yeej nco nroov nej txiaj ntsim.
Ntawm pluaj siab hlub thiab mov tshua,
Moobsib
Charlie
Koj yuav xub yug dua kuv tiag rawsli tej keeb kwm koj feeb txog no.
Ntawm kuv! Tos kuv nco ces Koom Tshaj Nyablaj thiab Nplogliab tso
"yellow rain lossis kua mis daj" rau peb nyob roob Peb-Ceg, Roob
Phubia thiab Phuv Theev ua rau peb me-nyuam Hmoob tus laus txog tus
hluas, tus loj txog tus yau pw nromxyas hauv tej kwjha. Suab quaj
thiab suab nyiav nrov nkhaus vos li hoshuam, me nraj thiab yij laub
tsaws quaj nrhiav npoj nrhiav lub chaw ntsuab, tiamsis lub suab phom
loj, phom me, thiab lub suab hu ntawm leejniam leejtxi "khiav tiag os!
Nyajlaj tuaj lawm" nrov tsis ploj. Piav mas zooli ua npau suav; yus
tej me qhov ntsej qhov ntswg txhaws tag - qhov ncauj txhav tas ua twb
tsis taus pa. Khiav hav zoo hav tsuag hla pobzeb pobca, tsuj pos kaus
ntsaj, kaus xyoob, thiab kaus ntoo, dawm me cav, me nab, thiab me
tsov, tsis nco qab ntshai vim tus Nplogliab mas tseem phem tshaj.
Thaum khiav dhau lawm mam los xav, "Hmoob tejnom tejtsw, Hlob Vaj Pov,
Yawg Pha Nyas, Dr. Yaj Dos, Yaj Misnus, Lis Ntsuab Vaj, Lis Nom Tsas
thiab Lis Xis Blong Lyfong - Lis Pajtsaj, nej tuag tas lawm los ua
licas. Siab phem tso peb menyuam Hmoob ua ntsuag ciaj." Ho rov xav,
"tsis yog Hmoob tej nom tej tsw ua, Nyablaj Liab - Nplogliab siab yeej
phem thiab siab tsis zoo. Nyob los yuav tuag, khiav mus los yeej yuav
tuag. Ua ib siab tiv thaiv, tuag hnub twg los xam tau. Yog muaj
Tswvntuj Tswvav tiag - nyaj yuav dim ib hnub thiaj tag. Yog tsis dim
los yeeb vim yog yug txhaum los ua Hmoob. Txhob chim rau tej nom tej
tsw; lawv los zoo ibyam li peb. Lawv mus tau zoo lawm tiag, tabsis ua
neeg tsis muaj daiv av ces yeej tuag ibyam tshuav txoj pa xwb." Tejno
yog menyuam Hmoob txoj kev xav; ib txhia chimsiab thiab tu siab ces
peem ciaj peem tuag saib tuaj mus raws puas cuag tej hlob. Ibtxhia ces
ciaj thiab tuag los nyob rawv hauv yus daim av. Tej teebmeem no
thiajli muaj los txog lub yijceeb no.
Nej ntsia mas Hmoob Khamkeuth, Hmoob Noomhej, Moos Pheeb - Moos Om,
Hmoob Dawb, Hmoob Leeg, thiab tub niag Moos thiab Tub Roob Toj siab
ibleeg zoo txawv lawm ib yam. Koj thiaj yog tsob hos kuv thiaj yog
cag. Hmoob Khamkeuth ces kuv cia koj ibleeg kav. Tabsis rau kuv
"Charlie Xiong," kuv pom tus nom Hmoob nrog rau tus me tub ntsoj tub
ntsuag los zoo ib daim me cev nqaij daim tawv. Hmoob Dawb thiab
Hmoobleeg - Khamkeuth tsis-Khamkeuth los koj tuag yeej mob, mob kuv
siab, kuv tuag yeej mob, mob koj siab. Txawv dua li nej es yuav muab
kuv cai npho li Khamkeuth cov yog kuv ibleeg txhawj. Tus siab os cov
txivleej tub yog xav txog.
Charlie
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Moobsib
Rawm rawm nrog koj sib cav ces txawm tsi nco qab nug koj lawm. Yog vim
li cas koj ho nug lo lus no? Puas yog lub npe Lanxang los yog lolus
Lanxang no tsuas yog Vajntxwv Lostsuas thiaj yog tus siv tau xwb? Los
yog lawv tsev neeg (Vaj Ntxwv Lostsuas) yeej yog tus tswv lawd? Kuv
nug koj li no mas vim kuv nyuam qhuav xeev txog tias tej zaum lub npe
Lanxang no yeej muaj neeg siv los yog ua tus tswv lawm es luag ho tso
rau txiv dab laug Muas Choj siv no nav. Thov tshab lus kom meej thiab
ntxaws rau peb thiab saib, yog koj paub zoo naj?
Ua tsaug ntau,
Moobsib
Charlie
Ntximli Hmoob Khamkeuth kuj tseem sib hlub heev yog muaj li koj hais.
Ua neeg yog thaum Mostxwv qabzib tag lawm, Saddam Hussein lawv tsis
tseg ces kawg Bush Jr. muab Mostxwv iab coj los tham nrog xwb. Tej
zaum cov Hmoob tsis Khamkeuth koj hais ko - coj li Saddam ne. Los yog
koj hais tias Hmoob Khamkeut yog Iraq qhab-nab no? Txawm li cas los
kuv kuj zoo siab hais tias kuv muaj ib pab neeg tseem ua tau ib puab
ibpawg; tsis zoo li kuv tus no es raug cov Pro-Communists
attacked ua hnub ua hmo.
Charlie
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Moobsib
MS
tseemyeej
Yam li koj txais tsis tau kuv lub ntsiab lus sub. You're too obsessed
by your one way solution. You need to overcome your anger in order to
be able to solve the Hmoob problem.
koj hais tias nej raug tuag coob coob, tab sis kwv tij Nplog kuj piav
txog lawv cov mi nyuam uas raug Aiv Noom dag tias coj mus kawm txawv
teb chaws tab sis twb yog lawv coj mus tua Cob Fab mas ruam ruam ces
Cob Fab tua tuag coob kawg nkaus. Thaum lub caij ntawd, cov tseem
tseem 30 xyoo sau nthwv tuaj sib txeeb rooj zaum thiab huab khoom nram
VT tag lawm.
Koj txhob xav tias NplogLiab tua Hmoob xwb, lawv los sib chua lawv
hlab pas kawg nkaus li thiab. Lawv yeej hais tawm tias thaum ntus lub
teb chaws Thaj Yeeb "XamtibPhaj" kwv tij HavXaj tuag coob tshaj ntu
Tsov Rog, koj pos paub nws txhais li cas?. Kuv twb piav ib lwm lawm
ces kuv yuav tsis piav toom no nytxiv lawm. Yog xav paub rov mus
tshawb kuv cov qub lus lub hlis tag ub.
Bottom line is: Peb sawv daws, tsis hais cov nyob sab ub los yog sab
no, yeej raug Faij Xaib thiab Faij Khuam dag tas tus. You are lost;
Neohmong, DYD, Xejthim, Ceeb_V, Teev, and Tseemyeej are not your
problems nor your ennemies. Your anger is being exploited by somebody
else. Do you get it? "You need to learn how to forgive and how to
forget".
WaKE UP!!! If you behave bullheadedly like this, I'll not pursue the
discussion with you anymore. You make yourself looked funny.
Tseemyeej.
neohmong
Thov txim tsis tau teb koj cov lus noog. Txawm yog kuv kuj paub tsis
zoo es thiaj li noog MC thiab ntag laud. Tam kuv paub mas nws tsis
yog lub npe Langxang li qhov koj xav tau ntawd, tej zaum, kuv hais tej
zaum yog lwm yam loj tshaj li lub npe ntawd, ntshe yog kev tseej tswj
(politics) pob.
Li kuv hais, yog MC tsis tawm los qhia peb ces peb yeej tsis paub qhov
tseeb li nawb. Kuv hnov luag tej hais li ub li no tab sis tsis paub
kiag qhov tseeb tseeb ces thiaj li tau noog tus tswv tsab li ntawd
xwb. Yog yawg MC tsis kam teb lawm ces ua li tej laus hais "niam lus
tsuas tau li" xwb.
NeoHmong
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Charlie
Muaj tseeb qhov peb raug dag los ntawm Sablaug thiab Sabxis! Kuv paub
koj txoj kev xav. Koj xav hais tias kuv tus real enemy ces yog
Neohome, worst yet, GVP. Hais lus tsis dag leejtwg. Yog yuav muab
hais, GVP hlub nej tshaj! Nej khiav nrog nws tuaj lawm nej tsis tau
nrog nab, tsov, roob zeb thiab roob tsuas, hav zoo thiab hav tsuag ua
lub neej. Nej feem coob uas nrog kuv sib, sib cav hauv no tsis tau
raug txoj kev txom nyem; tsis tau raug yus cov leaders muab yus tso
povtseg. Yog yuav muab hais ces Asmikas exploited peb, but where do
we draw the
line? Peb xum nrog Suav, nrog Nplog, and Nyablaj lossis nrog Asmikas
thiab GVP.
Tau puas tsawg tiam lawm peb kev vammeej txog qhov twg? Even Dr. Yang
Dao yog zoo los ntawm tus Fabkis - cov txiv plig. Leejtwg cob yus
ntse yus tsis txhob lam mus laj tus ntawd txheej. Hmoob muaj txog
pua, phav tus Doctors & Masters lawm; leejtwg yog tus cob Hmoob;
Nplogliab los-od? Yog thiab los mas; lawd ua rau Hmoob chim ces Hmoob
rau siab ntso mus compete. Tabsis thaum yus zoo lawm ces yus tig rov
tsis nco yus tus phooj ywg uas pab yus. Nej yeej paub lawm hais tias
Hmoob nyob qab ntuj no tos ntsoov peb cov Hmong Asmiska xwb. Yog peb
piam sij lawm ces Hmoob txoj kev vam will follow. Nej yog cov
confused. Tus Asmikas phem kawg thiab lawv ntxub koj los tsuas yog
lawv txawb qe thiab nto tawb quab ncaug. Tsis zoo li tus Koom Tshaj es
nyob, nyob ces koj ploj - nrhiav tsis tau. Tus Asmikas, thaum koj mus
txog tom court, lawd khob tusqws nrovnrawj ces plaub tag. Tus
KoomTshaj, Nplog Liab, ces hais tag saum qaumrooj tabsis qabrooj ces
koj tseem yuav mag.
Nej tsis yog kuv cov problems; kuv tsuas piav kom nej to taub xwb. Kuv
xav kom nej ua zoo xav saib kuv hais puas yog.
Yog nej kam, kuv tuaj yeem cia nej: Neohmong, Xejthim, DYD, Teev,
thiab Tseem Yeej - peb mus hold ib lub conference caw tag nrho Hmoob
tuaj es kuv tib leeg nrog nej cav kom kawg tsis pub leejtwg pab kuv.
Txhob yog zais nheev tuaj hauv no tuaj hais tsis mus kuv ces mus rhuav
kuv niam & kuv txiv li Neohmong. Koj twb ho mus pib zoj rhuav Hmoob
"Khamkeut." It appears you are much more opt and intelligent than
Neohmong, however I am still at a great loss with respect to your
comments.
FYI, I would much rather be exploited with by the U.S. than be
exploited by the Lao PDR.
tseemyeej
> Yijlaug Tseemyeej:
I'm a Tijlaug not a Yijlaug.
> koj txoj kev xav. Koj xav hais tias kuv tus real enemy ces yog
> Neohome, worst yet, GVP. Hais lus tsis dag leejtwg. Yog yuav muab
> hais, GVP hlub nej tshaj! Nej khiav nrog nws tuaj lawm nej tsis tau
> nrog nab, tsov, roob zeb thiab roob tsuas, hav zoo thiab hav tsuag ua
I never said who is your ennemy but I did ask you to overcome your
anger, why you have to repeat it again? Do you ever know who borrowed
Tou Cha's gun? If you don't know the answer then you are too stupid,
you deserve being slave.
>Yog yuav muab hais ces Asmikas exploited peb, but where do
> we draw theline? Peb xum nrog Suav, nrog Nplog, and Nyablaj lossis nrog >Asmikas thiab GVP.
Don't worry about other people exploiting hmoob people, just worry
about yourself being exploited first. Set yourself free, dummy.
> Yog nej kam, kuv tuaj yeem cia nej: Neohmong, Xejthim, DYD, Teev,
> thiab Tseem Yeej - peb mus hold ib lub conference caw tag nrho Hmoob
> tuaj es kuv tib leeg nrog nej cav kom kawg tsis pub leejtwg pab kuv.
How could you dare debating me? Don't make me laugh. You're making
yourself looked more and more imbecile.
> Txhob yog zais nheev tuaj hauv no tuaj hais tsis mus kuv ces mus rhuav
> kuv niam & kuv txiv li Neohmong. Koj twb ho mus pib zoj rhuav Hmoob
> "Khamkeut."
True that I did mention "Hmoob Khamkeuth" but none of my words are
offensive. Instead I urge you to take a closer look to the recent
stream of exodus. They seem to be more Hmoob Khamkeuth than others,
you are the 1st one who announced the news from km20, right?. You
should compare my "words" and the "action" of the people behind this
scam. Who is trying to exploit the Hmoob Khamkeuth now?
You don't need to reply, if you still want to accuse DYD, Teev,
Neohmong, Xejthim, Ceeb_V, Tseemyeej serving Nplogliab. It makes no
sense, we go no where, you are incurable, only time will determine
your destiny.
Good Luck.
neohmong
Koj mas nyaum tiag tiag li...hahahahaha...xa yawg Charlie tw kev
tag...ziag no ces lam los keb ub keb no lawm xwb las. Nyuag me nyuam
Neej Saub no yog koj tseem tso hem thawj hais hnyav zog ko ntxiv thiab
ces cia li quaj qoo mus phab mus li lawm xwb na. Tsis thas hais yawg
Charlie yuav nrog DYD, Teev, Neohmong, Xejthim, Ceeb_V, Tseemyeej lawv
sib cav li os (xyov koj puas tau los hauv no thiab koj puas tau hnov
txog qhov Charlie mus ua ntsev nchuav tas rau tim DC), cim tshaib no
thaum lub 1 ntuj xyoo 2003 ntawd NEOHOME tso yawg Charlie tuaj mus cav
nrog Amb. Hartwick nyob rau hauv Amb. Hartwick lub briefing nyob DC.
Kuv tus phooj ywg hais tias, yawg Charlie cav ua tus me khws khws sawv
tsees los noog Amb. Hartwick txog teeb meem tim Nplog, yawg Amb.
Hartwick teb zoj ob los thiab noog kiag ib los rov rau yawg Charlie,
yawg Hartwick sob lus noog ua rau yawg Charlie tw kev-yawg Charlie cia
li ua u as u as-yawg Charlie tseem noog tug niag ruam ntsuav rov rau
yawg Hartwick tias "You want me to answer your question?"-yawg
Hartwick teb tias, "Yes"-ua rau cov audience nyob hauv lub chav tsev
ntawd luag ib tsaug-tom qab sawv daws luag ib tsaug tas mas ua rau
Charlie ntsej muag liab ploog cuag them xem tag-loj me, loj me, liab
ntsuab, liab ntsuab ces yawg thiaj li zaum tib tug mluas mluas tseg-ib
me pliag zoj (kev sib tham twb tsis tau xaus) xwb ces yawg Charlie
qhab nab cia li ua Suav txo yia tawm hauv lub chav tsev ntawd tw yoom
los lawm. Kuv kuj tsis nyob ntawd lus sij hawm ntawd kiag, kuv tsuas
hnov kuv tus phooj ywg hais li xwb. Tab sis yog koj xav paub ntxiv,
koj noog Teev Lis meb, kuv ntseeg tias Teev Lis nyob hauv lub rooj
briefing ntawd, yog li Teev yuav tsum pom txhua yam tswm sim lub sij
hawm ntawd, kuv xav nad.
NeoHmong
XejThim
> thiab Tseem Yeej - peb mus hold ib lub conference caw tag nrho Hmoob
> tuaj es kuv tib leeg nrog nej cav kom kawg tsis pub leejtwg pab kuv.
Charlie, zaum i kuv twb posted txog tias Neohom ob tug nyuj kub zuag
zuag, caj dav nyias nyias uas nej cov Nai phoo Xiongs nyob nroog
Wausau xaiv tuaj mus nrau Ya Yang txog NTR es nkawd kub twb raug lwg
ti txha mos kiag lawm no nes. Ib tug (he happened to be a Xiong) twb
quaj dhev ua rau nej cov generals hosted lub rooj debate ntawd tau
poob ntsej muag loj kawg kiag yam lawv tsis pom qab zais ntsej muag
rau qhov twg lawm no cas koj tseem yuav khav tuaj mus debate nrog pab
ub pab no thiab nas? Ntu i DYD twb hais rau koj tias tej zaum koj kub
zuag lawm, tab sis caj dab tsi tau ntug kom txhob maj maj mus sim nrog
cov phaw laus tsam poob plig no nas. Koj puas nco qab yawg tau invited
kom koj nrog yawg mus nug State Department es koj suab ntsiag lawm
nas? Hais mas yam li yuav tshawv heev rau koj tab sis kuv kuj tsis yog
yuav under estimate koj, kuv admire koj tias koj yeej yog ib tug siv
tau nyog lawm tab sis txhob mus khav debate txog zaj no tsam koj laj
laj nriav koj cov proof os. Xav tias koj yuav tsis chim dab tsi rau
XejThim
Puas yog li ntawd tiag es Charlie thiaj li ntaug npaws tsis tshua kam
txheem Neohom tw ntxiab lawm mas, los yog yawg mus ua tsis tau kam es
Neohom muab yawg tshwj tseg lawm ne? Cas yuav mus ua tau raws nraim
DYD los lus faj tseg rau Charlie tias kom yawg txhob rawm maj maj mus
sim cov txiv nyuj laus ntug ntug lawm tsam poob plig no ua luaj li os
yom. Ntsev twb nchuav lawm ci tub tab sis tseem tsis zeem qees thiab
es yawg tseem yuav kom rhuav plu npaum li cas tso?
neoh...@yahoo.com (neohmong) wrote in message news:<29d91d7e.0407...@posting.google.com>...
Charlie
You should be concerned about yourself, not others - not me. If I can
handle you, Neohmong, Xejthim, Teev, DYD, and Ceeb simultaneously,
wouldn't you think that's pretty good? I'm still yearning for a
public face-to-face debate with all of you. I have yet to see the real
faces behind Tseem Yeej, Xejthim, Ceeb, and Neohmong. And, you have
yet to reveal who you really are in SCH before I or anyone else can
take you serious. You people amazed me with your buffonish cartoon
characters. I couldn't have a better time of my life watching you hide
and attack me under your screen names.
There is nothing I haven't overcomed if I survived the LPDR holocaust
in Mount Phubia, the excruciating pain and sulfrage I have been
through is beyond your imagination. I take it very personal when it
comes to the atrocities in Laos, but I am not angry. I'm as calm as a
deep blue sea; the wind is what made me fury occasionally.
Who cares about the case of Tou Cha's n; it's all personal to them.
Why do you people want to stick your noses in the mud? This is truly
an opportunity for you people, isn't it? Haven't you got enough of
these Hmong feuds? And, what do "Charlie Xiong" have to do with Tou
Cha's gun? I'm 1000 miles away. I can't possibly be blamed for someone
else's mischief, unless of course you see me as God. Therefore, any
mystery that is unsolved by default becomes my job. It is no wonder
you people won't face me outside of SCH; I might just have solutions
to every problem of yours.
Charlie
Koj puas yog Yawg uas Teev thiab HND txib zov rooj vag thaum peb nkag
mus hauv Hartwick's briefing? Kuv paub koj lawm. Koj yuav hais licas
los tau, tab-sis thov koj muab daim video uas nej taped coj mus
publicize saib leej twg yog cov
ntsej muag liab ploog. Kuv saib nej pom kuv tuaj xwb ces nej twb
ntshaus tag.
First, nej dag hais tias nej had nothing to do with politics; your job
was non- profit, strictly non-profit. Thaum kawg nej yog cov host
this political forum.
Ntawm Hartwick, yog kuv tseem nug nws tshaj qhov kuv nug thiab ces
kawg ntshai nws yuav ciali kom kuv mus ua tus Ambassador. Kuv tsis
tau pom dua ib tug U.S Official es twb teb tsis tau luag ib simple
question? Tsis tau pom dua ib tug U.S. Official es yuav rov qab mus
nug nws cov audience hais tias yuav ua licas.
That's incompetence! Txhob yog nej nyob hauv thiab kuv txhob muab nej
cov nom Hmoob saib hlob ces kuv tseem yuav nug thiab hais ntau tshaj,
tabsis kuv ntsia zoo li nej lub forum ntsiag tag cuag li kuv yog
Hartwick hos Hartwick yog kuv lawm kuv thiaj ua twjywm tsam kuv ho
dhia tsis dhau koj lub rooj vag.
Charlie
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XejThim
> faces behind Tseem Yeej, Xejthim, Ceeb, and Neohmong. And, you have
> yet to reveal who you really are in SCH before I or anyone else can
> take you serious. You people amazed me with your buffonish cartoon
> characters. I couldn't have a better time of my life watching you hide
> and attack me under your screen names.
Charlie,
Tej zaum koj yuav tsis tau paub Neohmong, Tseemyeej thiab Ceeb lawv,
tab sis hais txog ntawm kuv mas koj yeej paub zoo kawg kiag tab sis
ntshai yog tsis xav lees paub lawm xwb. Wb twb yog phooj ywg puag
thaum yau, niaj hnub nyob ua ke, ua si ncaws npas ua ke, yog hais kev
sib txheeb los tej zaum yeej sib txheeb thiab, nyuam qhuav sib ncaim
yav tiav hluas lawm xwb. Los yog koj xav ntau dhau hwv lawm es koj
puas hlwb lawm thiaj li tsis nco qab yav tag los lawm mas? Ua li kuv
hais ntau zaus rau koj lawm, kev sib tham hauv no yog kev sib pauv
tswv yim xwb koj wb txoj kev phooj ywg tseem yog li qub (no yog ntawm
kuv) tsis tau muaj caub muaj chim dab tsi rau koj os. Yog kuv tuaj
txog MI, kuv tseem yuav los so hauv koj yog tias koj tsis kawv kuv
qhov rooj. Yog hos ntshai associate nrog rau tus neeg koj muab ti npe
hu ua communist no, no los tsis ua li cas nyob tsam koj tus superior
hos suspect koj los sis tsam ho sav tsam koj teg dej num rau hauv
Neohom.
tseemyeej
> If I can
> handle you, Neohmong, Xejthim, Teev, DYD, and Ceeb simultaneously,
> wouldn't you think that's pretty good?
You're annoying me with your bullyhead. Face-to-face? It may be
possible if you ask for advice but surely not for a debate. To make a
debate agreeable and profitable both camps have to be worth the
audience's time.
> You people amazed me with your buffonish cartoon
> characters. I couldn't have a better time of my life watching you hide
> and attack me under your screen names.
So charlie is your real name? Koj daws tsawg zaus npe lawm os? Ua li
koj tsev neeg pos paub? nyob tsam peb tuaj nrhiav charlie es tsis muaj
neeg paub ne?
> There is nothing I haven't overcomed if I survived the LPDR holocaust
> in Mount Phubia, the excruciating pain and sulfrage I have been
> through is beyond your imagination.
Your sufferance could be worst if it was Souphanouvong and Faidang
taken power, instead of Kaisone taken the power, you would see the
worst of Laos killing's field. Because Kaisone wanted the power and
the people but Souphanouvong wanted the power and the revenge.
> Who cares about the case of Tou Cha's n; it's all personal to them.
> Why do you people want to stick your noses in the mud? This is truly
> an opportunity for you people, isn't it? Haven't you got enough of
> these Hmong feuds? And, what do "Charlie Xiong" have to do with Tou
> Cha's gun? I'm 1000 miles away.
You don't give a damn? So who a hell is the guy with the charlie name
jumping up and down around Tou Cha scandal issue since May 04. Cov
neeg uas nqos tsis tau yus tawb quab ncaug ces yog cov neeg DAG xwb.
Niag neeg dag nplob khib li ko es tseem qualify debate kuv thiab? Why
should I waste my valuable time? Go back to the post where I pinpoint
the 4 hmong groups, you belong to the slave group, so serve your time
untill you meet the cycle of your destiny. You don't deserve a good
advice from me anymore. You are incurable, so from now on, you can go
ahead and call me Nplogliab, Nyablajliab, communist, koos sam etc.....
Tseemyeej.
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XejThim
Koj kuj tsis yog dog dig thiab nawb yom? Tus phooj ywg Neohmong thiab
Ceeb nej ob peb tug tuaj tuaj hauv no mas kuv qhua nej kawg tias hais
txog kev hais taus thiab hais raug ntsiab lus nas. Kuv thov qhua nej
cov peev xwm thiab thov kom nej tej peev xwm no tawg paj txi txiv rau
peb haiv hmoob mus lawm yav tom ntej.
tsee...@wapda.com (tseemyeej) wrote in message news:<4d521a95.04071...@posting.google.com>...
Charlie
You're right! It's pointless to have discussions with faceless
people. Both camps have to atleast show their sincerety and
seriousness by revealing their identities first before a face-to-face
debate can even be considered. I know there's a point you won't go
beyond. You people are good at attacking others from behind and
merely from behind; keep it that way if you're too chicken to come
out.
I've invited a lot of people tuaj daws kuv npe laus, but obviously you
weren't one. Charlie is my naturalized name; I picked the most common
American name to be used outside of Hmong paradyme. Tsavlis yog kuv
lub npe laus uas Niam Tais thiab Yawm Txiv tuaj daws. What is your
name? Do you have a name?
Incase you're too blind to see, my sufferance in the LPDR is mediocre
compare to the thousands who are stranded in the jungle for all of
these years. Key-
sone or Souphanouvong, it's all the same? What could've been worse.
Laos has fallen back to the darkage and more people died during the
Lao PDR atrocities than the war itself.
Can you recite one thread of my rhetorics about Tou Cha? The only
time I've ever made comments about the case was my general
interpretation of concealed weapons. In Michigan, Tou Cha would be
guilty as ever; no one else. You can't borrow even a private hunting
rifle to anyone, let alone a registered magnum,
45 handgun from a reputable law enforcement agency like the Police
Department of St. Paul, MN. If he alledged that the gun was stolen,
then that's a whole different case. Why would anyone want to believe
that a 10-year Veteran Law Enforcer would be foolish enough to borrow
anyone his line of duty gun? His negligence is a crime in itself, let
alone the scheme of circumtance surround it.
I have not called anyone of you a Communist. God only knows what you
are, to have come out and tiredlessly attacked people from screen
names.
Charlie
tsee...@wapda.com (tseemyeej) wrote in message news:<4d521a95.04071...@posting.google.com>...
Charlie
Txawm koj yuav yog kiag kuv tus best friend and my hunting partner
(kuv tus Aub Pha), los yog koj zim hniav zaig rau kuv li tus hma lawm
ces kuv yuav tau xyuas saib cov dev mub (rabies) twg tom koj lawm es
koj thiaj uali. Kuv yuav tsum ua txhua yam kom koj rov zoo los es kuv
yuav coj koj ua kuv luag mus yos hav zoov; hma coob, coob li.
Yog koj yog kuv tus phooj ywg tiag, tsem kom xws Aub Tsem - txhob
zimkaus li ib tus Txiv Hma rov rau kuv. Koj cov kaus hlev ua rau kuv
tsis paub xyov koj yuav tom kuv thaum twg.
Aub! In real life, they are men's best friends; never would they
betray their frieds - men. Tabsis, you are not that kind of friend;
you are a human being. Human beings are the best and worst of all
species. Thaum lawv tig pob tw tuaj
rau koj lawm; even the very best of friends can turn enemies. We've
seen with Souphanouvong and Souvana before our naked eyes; I've seen
you, Neohmong, Ceeb, and the rest of your wolf-pack against me. What
significance does one have in friendship when he is friendlier to your
enemies than to you? Explain this to me.
Charlie
Xej...@yahoo.com (XejThim) wrote in message news:<4133ef88.04071...@posting.google.com>...
tseemyeej
> You're right! It's pointless to have discussions with faceless
> people. Both camps have to atleast show their sincerety and
> seriousness by revealing their identities first before a face-to-face
> debate can even be considered.
Yog koj dag kuv tsis ua li cas nawb. Tsuav koj txhob dag koj tus kheej
xwb. Koj muaj ntsis nplob khib lis koj tus master sub nad? You
flip-flop a lot; lies after lies. Yog vim li ntawd, feem ntau thiaj
tsis tshua xav nrog koj txuas lus tej zaum kuj sib ceg li kuv pom koj
pheej cem luag tej "Yaj caiv Plawv, Lis caiv po" Yog luag nrog koj cav
cai ces koj cem luag Nplogliab tsis muaj Nplogliab and end up with
trash talks. Yog luag tsis nrog koj cav lawm ces koj declare winner.
> Incase you're too blind to see, my sufferance in the LPDR is mediocre
> compare to the thousands who are stranded in the jungle for all of
> these years. Key-sone or Souphanouvong, it's all the same?
Thaub charlie awd...yog ruam li koj ces txhob mus nrog luag ua Kas
Moos mog. Ua ntej koj yuav mus ua KasMoos yuav tau muab ib rab taus
rau koj mus xyaum txhib taws tsos. Yog koj muaj peev xwm txhib tau cov
taws ua pob caus tawg tag lawm mas mam rov los ua KasMoos nawb. Tsis
muaj ib pab neeg twg(political party) yeej teb chaws vim muab PERSONAL
CONCERNS los lwv yeej nav. Koj pos paub qhov differences between Mao
and Chang? Mao Tsuas hais tias nws yuav tua Japanese imperialists xwb
hos Chang mas tas zog raws tua Mao pab neeg kom tuag tag(The March of
10,000 Li). Thaum kawg pej xeem thiaj poog Mao tag li. Koj pos paub,
Sihanouk muab Khieu Samphanh lawv hle liab qab tom public market lawv
thiaj nkag hav zoo lawm tab sis lawv pos nros txog lawv txoj kev ntsim
siab ib zaug mad? Koj pos paub txog Souphanouvong thiab Faidang lawv
chim npaum li cas rau Faij Khuam tab sis nyob hauv lawv tus
Nabnyusnpais lawv tsuas cem cov Cavkaphav fabkis thiab Melikas nrog
cov tes tawv xwb. That is how they have won the war.
Koj los ua tib zoo saib nej pab kubxaj saib yuav ua cas thiaj yeej
thiab pauj taus kua zaub ntsuab? Saum lub roob PhuNpiab muaj pes tsawg
pab pawg? Kev koom siab muaj loj luaj li cas? Tus KasMoos pos ua ib
nqag? Ntiaj teb tig rau seem twg lawm? Pej kum haiv leej twg tuaj yus
tog, leej twg yog yus phoojywg? Los yog tab haj sib kaus tas zog xwb
mad? Koj mas nim yog naiphoo kuv mas nim yog naipha, tus no mas nim
yog nyas luam, tus tod mas nim yog cob kheem, muaj tej tug mas tseem
ua txog cob lauj(world leader) ab yaj...yaj...yaj....ntuj es.
Koj ho mus tig saib Nplogliab txoj kev PHOOJYWG soj? UN pos lees paub?
Koom Haum Asean pos lees paub? US pos lees paub? Thaib pos lees paub?
Vim li cas Thaib thiab Miskas thiaj ua siab tso Hmoob Tham Krabok
tuaj? Yog kuv hais li no ces koj twb maj rawm muab kuv hu ua niag
Nplogliab!!! mus nrog Nplogliab nyob los mas no pos yog?
It took hmoob NiagMoos/Nonghet generations to figure out how to get
out of slavery. Qhov kuv pheej vis mus vis los no yog xav advice kom
hmoob Khamkeuth get a SHORT CUT xwb. Otherwise you can go ahead and
serve your slavery time, so we can be even.
Tseemyeej.
charli...@yahoo.com (Charlie) wrote in message news:<bd1cd63a.04071...@posting.google.com>...
Charlie
Koj nyiam tham txog kas moos cia kuv hais kas moos nrog koj. Koj
ntshaw txoj kev muaj yeej li Mao, Keysone, thiab Ho-Chi Minh xwb es
koj thiaj rov tig koj lub nrob qaum tuaj npuab peb puas yog? Koj pom
lawv yeej dabtsi. Txom nyem tsis txom nyem; neeg tuag tshaib tuag
nqhi. Txij li Suav thiab Nyablaj tawm tswvyim dua tshiab thiab tig
los nrog Asmikas caum kev vammeej es thiaj mamli ibnyuag tso taus pa.
Nplogliab tus cwjpwm yog coj li niaj hnub no xwb mas yuav vammeej tsis
taus ib sim.
Lawv tog Koos Sam nyiaj taus mob tiag tabsis lawv lub siab phem lawv
tsis hais qhia koj. Lawv tos kom koj nyob hauv lawv obceg ces lawv
mamli muab koj zuaj; li no es Yawg Phas Nhas thiab Lis Teeb Paj Tsab
thiaj li ncaim ntawm peb Hmoob mus yam tsis muaj lub ntxa. Lawv zais
siab npaum no es leejtwg los thiaj tsis ntseeg lawv. Yog peb coj lino
es peb ho rov mus nrog lawv nyob; peb puas yuav muaj kev vammeej. Peb
txawm yeej los peb puas yuav nyob tsheej.
Ua neeg nyob yog siab ncaj ncees tiag, yuav tau los zaum saum rooj
tham licas tag mas ua li ntawd xwb - txhob ua tshaj. Koj puas paub
hais tias vim licas peb Hmoob thiaj hu lawv ua "Nyablaj." Hmong mus
ua rog mas lawv ua txuj tuag, tabsis koj dhau lawm lawv mas zuaj tom
koj cajtw tuaj. Ua neeg yog koj tsis coj raws txoj kev ncaj, ces luag
pub koj yeej rau qhov koj heev dhau hwv lawm xwb tabsis koj ua neej
lub siab yeej tsis kaj. Kuv muaj ib tug phoojywg nyob Los Tsuas - nws
twb muaj 30+ xyoo lawm. Sim neej no nws yeej tsis tau pom tias
Khamtay, Lengsavad, thiab cov Nom Nplogliab no yuav tawm tuaj tuav
pejxeem tes rau lawv pom, twb tsis hais nws tus kheej yuav tau mus
ntsib. Yog coj lino es koj hais tias yog thiab zoo no los. Koj tuaj
kuv coj koj mus tim White House. Koj xav ntsib tus nom loj npaum
licas los yeej tau. Peb Hmoob pom GVP yaig, pom heev thiab hnov hais
lus ntau dhau qhov ntau ib txhia li koj twb rov saib tsis taus.
Kuv tsis yog ib tug tub kas moos li koj xav. Kuv tsuas tuaj nrog nej
nuam yaj hauv tshav nruag ntug xwb. Yog ua licas koj thiaj yuav kom
UN, U.S., ASEAN & Nplogliab lees paub tso koj mamli paub koj cov
Hmoob. Hmong must struggle for Hmong rights before others will
struggle for Hmoob. Kuv nyob xwb es koj puas lam pub mov rau kuv noj
ib zaug. Tsis nyhog nej cov Noob Nom, Noob Nonghet & Xiengkhuang uas
xub muaj kev txawj kev ntse no yuav tsum los txhawb Hmoob. Nej tso
"Hmoob Khamkeut" tso pam thawj es nej dauv tes ntsia thiab nej tseem
tuaj lauj tag zog xwb es peb puas "ciajvaj, xa lub yajceeb puas mus
txog qhov kaj."
Hais txog kev tsis hloov; xyog yog koj los yog kuv li lau? Kuv tsis
hloov tab sis kuv ho tsis mus tsa Keysone thiab Faidang tw ntxiab.
Yog lawv los tuav lub tebchaws es lawv ua zoo npaumli qhov koj hais no
xwb ces Hmoob yeej tsis tshwm roojteb no ib zaug. Even koj kiag twb
tsis kam nrog lawv nyob. As simple as that?
More next time.... And, please!!! Lino xwb koj twb hais tias kuv yog
kas moos lawm. Nov yog lus cav nrog nej ua si xwb.
Charlie
tsee...@wapda.com (tseemyeej) wrote in message news:<4d521a95.04071...@posting.google.com>...
tseemyeej
> Koj nyiam tham txog kas moos cia kuv hais kas moos nrog koj. Koj
> ntshaw txoj kev muaj yeej li Mao, Keysone, thiab Ho-Chi Minh xwb es
> koj thiaj rov tig koj lub nrob qaum tuaj npuab peb puas yog?
Tos kuv hais tias koj yog niag nyuj pam thawj no os yeej muaj tseeb
tiag ne. Koj xav kom kuv tham txog Cleopatra lov? Los yog Gandhi lov?
Los yog Mandala? Los yog Reagan? es koj thiaj zoo siab maj? Kuv tsuas
xav kom cov niag kub pam thawj txawj doog kub xwb os. Tab sis yam li
koj tseem cav yuav ua tus qhia kuv sub laiv yuad...
> nuam yaj hauv tshav nruag ntug xwb. Yog ua licas koj thiaj yuav kom
> UN, U.S., ASEAN & Nplogliab lees paub tso koj mamli paub koj cov
> Hmoob. Hmong must struggle for Hmong rights before others will
> struggle for Hmoob.
Tim txoj me ke xav muab hmoob npe mus muag noj li ko es peb thiaj mag
luag tej saib tsis tau las mas. Koj pos pom hais tias cov Lospav suav
npluav nuj 555(RLG) pos tau nrog peb tua nyablaj ib phom li? Lawv hais
lus nplog twb tsis meej "Uab nij naxabkoos Sananikone". Vim li cas
lawv thiaj muaj privilege dua peb hmoob? And now here came LPDR yog
leej twg yog cov npluav nuj dua? All they need to do is just turn
around and say:" Uab nib nasxabkoos Phomvihane" Pos yog pab suav qub
xwb maj? Koj pos paub Lengsavad yog haiv neeg twg? Nws niam nws txiv
nyob qhov twg? Es Yong Chanthalangsy nev? Tsis ntev tom ntej no ces
Nplog twb yuav ciaj ua Singapore or Thailand with chinese economic
domination, koj pos paub naj yawm thaub hmoob paum nas tsuag awd?.
> Tsis nyhog nej cov Noob Nom, Noob Nonghet & Xiengkhuang uas
> xub muaj kev txawj kev ntse no yuav tsum los txhawb Hmoob. Nej tso
> "Hmoob Khamkeut" tso pam thawj es nej dauv tes ntsia thiab nej tseem
> tuaj lauj tag zog xwb es peb puas "ciajvaj, xa lub yajceeb puas mus
> txog qhov kaj." Hais txog kev tsis hloov; xyog yog koj los yog kuv li lau?
Kuv twb hais rov hais rais, if you don't want to take a SHORT CUT then
go ahead and serve your slavery time, so we can be even.
Koj sau "Hmong WORKING GROUPs for Betterment in Laos"
7. Lao and Hmong refugees continue to escape Laos flooding Thailand
seeking political asylum;
Nej nyob US no, yuav dag noj dag haus los yeej meem dag kom pluag tag
los tau. Ua cas tseem yuav mus dag cov hmoob nplog(hmoob Khamkeuth)
tuaj rau thaib ncaws thiab cov me ntxhais mos mos tuaj rauv thaib tswm
naj? Kuv hnov tias nej cov Khamkeuth twb them nyiaj thru Dr.Rock's UN
lawm no laiv? Koj yeej tsis paub khwv lwm yam noj lawm lov? Why are
you willing to sacrify your people for you own ambition?
Tseemyeej.
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Charlie
Koj tus kub muab zuag zog lawm ntshai nyob hauv nkuaj nrau tuaj xwb
ciali chob li lawm paub? Kuv mloog mas koj kub lov tag lawm es koj
lam nqov tuam phov li ub li no xwb. Tsis li ces lawv yeej tso koj
tawm tshav lawm. Kuv twb kom lawv cab koj tawm hauv nkuaj no tabsis
koj tsa tw nqhoob xwb as.
Xav zoo, zoo koj mam li accuse kuv txog cov Hmoob khiav tawg ua sab ua
sua tim NPlog thiab Thaib. Leejtwg yog cov mus tshum kom Hmoob tuaj.
Koj puas xav paub.
Kuv mloog mas koj paub kuv tsis zoo li. Koj puas xav hais tias Hmong
Tham Kra Bok thiab Hmong Nplog no muaj domino effect. Koj nug cov
Hmong Nonghet nyobtim New York saib yog ualicas Hmong ua luaj li.
Leejtwg cov yog cov nyob rawv tim Tham Krabok screening Hmong rov qab
thiab tuaj. Yog koj tsis tau paub tseeb no nqov kom nrov zog es kuv
mam li teb. Twb pam xeeb mus qhib kev rau Hmong tuaj, tabsis thaum
Hmoob tuaj no ho tsis lees paub. Hmoob yuav muab Hmong thawb mus txog
thaum twg? Ntximli koj tuaj tshiab. Kuv yeej hais lawm hais tias yog
peb tsis faj ces zaum no yuav yog Ban Vinai Repatriation zaum ob - I
predicted all along. Thaib ncaws xwb mas tseem zoo; tabsis Thaib ncaws
tas es Thaib rov muab thawb rau Nplog ncaws. Kuv mloog mas zoo li koj
yog neeg nruab liaj nruab teb xwb; koj tsis paub txog kas moos li.
Kuv tham txog Hmoob es koj mus tham txog Mao Tse Tung xwb es wb yuav
hais txog mus qhov twg.
Koj muaj issue nrog Dr. Rock cas koj tsis hais ncaj qha rau nws. Kuv
yuav pab tsis tau koj. Kuv tsis tau muag leej twg noj. Yog ua li cas
tsawg lwm los koj hais los mus xaus rau Dr. Rock thiab GVP lawv xwb.
Kawg lawv thiaj ua tau xwb puas yog?
Koj twb pom Suav Los Pav tau noj ces ua twjywm es tos nco ces peb nrog
koj zoo siab xwb; pheej tuaj thuam neeg ua dabtsi. Nco ntsoov hais
tias koj yuav muab tus Turkey mus piv rau tus Eagle tsis tau. Yog
hais tias kuv tso phluav human rights tseg es los nrog koj kiag; wb
mus raws Suav Los Pav no koj puas ua thawj hlo mas? Yes or No? Yog
koj ua tau ces kuv tuaj yeej mus recruit cov Khamkeut nrog koj kiag.
Nej cov Nonghet mas ua li koj hais, pom txaus lawm; "cab tshis hla dej
tseem yoojyim zog."
Charlie
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neohmong
Yawm Charlie no ces koj cav heev zog ko ntxiv xwb ces kawg quaj. Kuv
paub yawg Charlie zoo, Charlie ces khav ntawm ntug cub rau cov nyeg
xwb. Hais txog cov qus ces tsis txhob cia siab kiag li, nws qhov heev
tshaj plaws ces sau tej daim nniag ntawv xeeb xeeb txob (tsis muaj
puas muaj ntsis) mus rau US DOS, Congress, & UN lawv xwb. Tag hauv
ris li ntaws li lawm os, Tseemyeej.
Koj los tom qab zog, koj tsis paub yawg Charlie ces lam khav khav yuav
nrau cuam no tab sis nrau ob phlaw xwb ces cab dab lem tas, tes taw
zuav tas, aub nyaug si laim, ces pos tw nthoob ploj pliag nraum roob
xwb.
Cia kuv qhia Charlie chaw muag thiab chaw tawv (weakness and strenght)
rau koj:
Weakness: Quaj (siab kub, cav tsis yeej ces siv kev quaj qw los lwv).
Strenght: Foom (siab luv, cav tsis yeej haum ces siv kev foom kom
khaum los hem).
Hais txog kasmoos, Charlie yog ib tug uas yooj yim muab lem heev li.
NeoHmong
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mouatony
Zoo le peb muaj kev txawj tabsis peb tseem tsis tau ntse txau. Peb
ib tsoom
Moob kws tau tsiv tuaj rua lub camp Thamkrabot ntawd kuv xaav tas yuav
tsis muaj leej twg, los ib tug twg, moog haub ntxag puab tsiv tuaj
tabsis thaum puab nov tas Moob Thamkrabot yuav raug Tseem fwv Ameka
tog tuaj ua tuab neeg thoj nam tawg nrog tuaj rua teb chaw Ameka ces
puab yuav tsuj rhav kev tsiv tuaj habseb puab puas muaj chance tau
tuaj. Mej yog ib cov tub txawj ntxhais ntse mej yuav tau nrhav kev
paab cuam rua Moob. Mej tsis nrhav txuj kev ntawd hos mej tseem sib
challenge cuag MIV HAB DLEV xwb. Yog leej twg keej heev xaav kuam Moob
ntshai hab hawm yug ces tawm plawg tuaj has rua Moob hab moog has
Nploglab kuam xob tua tua Moob xwb. Mej naj nub tuaj sib caav sib tshe
zoo le tej tsaj tsis paub lug es yuav muaj qaab hau mas. Yog leej twg
ua tau rua Moob ces tug ntawd yog HERO xwb. Koj tsis tig koj lub npe
hu ua PHAIB EJ LOS MOOB YUAV MUAB LUB NPE NTAWD RUA KOJ LE OS.Txiv
nyuj kub yuav zuag npaum twg los yog nrau tsis tau hab nrau tsis nraug
ces tsis taag yuav tuaj nqov heev heev. Peb yog tuab cov nam kuag kaab
kuag hlau xwb los peb mas khaav peb kawg nkau. Kuv xaav kuam thaum peb
ua tau rua Moob noj lawm maam cas lwm tug khaav yug rua Moob hab
nplajteb paub. Thaum yug khaav yug xwb tsis muaj qaab hau Moob yuab
tsaa tug ntiv teg twg rua yug los yeej tau.
Tony
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Moobsib
phoojywg Tsavlis ntawd le los mej yeej sis txheeb hab sis raug zoog
lug lawm nev. Mej yeej ib txwm tau noj sav noj nyoog ua ke lug es mej
txhaj sis paub zoo ua luaj. Kuv ntshai nyob tsaam ces luav tsi pw luav
qub zeg lawm xwb lauv... hehehehehehe.... J/K.
Charlie, ntshai yuav tau ua siab ntev mus ntxias Neohmong, Xejthim
thaib Tseemyeej lawv los ua nra laj kab pob? Koj xav li cas? Los koj
ua ib siab muab lawv xuam tawm plaws hauv koj tsob Hmoob li lawm naj?
Cov no kub zuag thiab khov cuab nrhaub ntshai ua laj kab yuav ruaj
heev kaj.... Tso dag xwb os, txhob chim nawb...
ms
tseemyeej
> Koj tus kub muab zuag zog lawm ntshai nyob hauv nkuaj nrau tuaj xwb
> ciali chob li lawm paub? Kuv mloog mas koj kub lov tag lawm es koj
> lam nqov tuam phov li ub li no xwb. Tsis li ces lawv yeej tso koj
Koj mus khaws luag tej lus thiab tej tswv yim los siv xwb. Tab sis haj
tseem pheej tej niag tsiam pam thawj rau luag. Thaum kawg koj tham
txog twg los luag thiaj tsawm koj tsauj zias li tsawm aub mas koj
tseem khav tias yus yog PRO. Cav khav yuav coj kuv mus ntsib nom tswv
pem White House thiab laiv Hahaha ... White House is open daily to
public isn't it? Koj nyuag hmoob xib taws daj ko thiaj muaj peev xwm
coj tau kuv mus ntsib luag xwb lov? Pab koj txaj muag dhau hwv lawm
laud. Tos nej ib sij dag hmoob mus nram white house ib zaug os, that
is how you guy make a living?.
> Xav zoo, zoo koj mam li accuse kuv txog cov Hmoob khiav tawg ua sab ua
> sua tim NPlog thiab Thaib. Leejtwg yog cov mus tshum kom Hmoob tuaj.
> Koj puas xav paub.
Tus ntej muag twg yog tus sau cov lus no naj?
"Hmong WORKING GROUPs for Betterment in Laos"
7. Lao and Hmong refugees continue to escape Laos flooding Thailand
seeking political asylum;
> Kuv mloog mas zoo li koj
> yog neeg nruab liaj nruab teb xwb; koj tsis paub txog kas moos li.
Hahahaha...Hmoob Nonghet yog neeg nruab liaj nruab teb xwb???? But
atleast lawv tso kev ntshaw nom tseg, tso txoj kev ua qhev tseg, tso
txoj kev muag hmoob tseg lawm ntev. Koj hu xov tooj mus nug koj 2 tug
nyuag yawg laus nram Fresno saib pos yog vim txoj kev ntshaw NOM quav
dev es yus 2 me kwv tij thiaj sib lawb qas neej qas dab tib si lawm
maj?
> Kuv tham txog Hmoob es koj mus tham txog Mao Tse Tung xwb es wb yuav
Yav tag los kuv tseem ua siab tib ntuj ntev ua lub ua ntsiav ntuas
koj, tab sis koj cav tig zoj yuav qhia kasmoos rau kuv??? hawhawhaw...
Zaum no ruam pam thawj noj nkhawb li ko ces cias ywj koj os: "Go ahead
and serve your slavery time, I won't give your any more advice".
> Yog hais tias kuv tso phluav human rights tseg es los nrog koj kiag; wb
> mus raws Suav Los Pav no koj puas ua thawj hlo mas? Yes or No? Yog
> koj ua tau ces kuv tuaj yeej mus recruit cov Khamkeut nrog koj kiag.
100% YES. I'll try to liberate every one out of slavery, but kuv tsis
ua leej twg tus thawj, kuv tsuas pab tswv yim tau. Human rights? hard
to make a buck. Yog yuav nrog hmoob Nonghet mas yuav tsum txhob ntshaw
nom thiab txhob pam thawj lawm mas thiaj nrog tau hmoob Nonghet nawb.
Tseemyeej.
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tseemyeej
Thanks for your support, kuv tsis txhawj txog tus paub qab hau, tab
sis kuv hmov tshua txog tus xiam hlwb raug yellow rain li charlie xwb.
Hopefully, he'll recover from his ill mentality before it is too late.
Tseemyeej.
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Charlie
Koj tag li ko lawm los tseem tshuav thiab? Wb nyuam qhuav sib tham.
Kuv tseem xav tau hais tias koj yuav pib nkag siab xwb koj twb siv cem
kuv ua "pam thawj noj nkhawb, thiab ntsej muag ruam tsis muaj ruam"
lawm es tos koj tsiskam tawm los mus fim leejtwg.
Vim licas kuv thiaj yuav txais yuav koj cov lus qhub? Koj puas tau
hnov ib zaj lus nruag hu ua, "Tus Hma thiab Tus Yaj."
A Wolf was chasing a Lamb, which took refuge in a Church. The Wolf
urged him to come out, and said, "If you don't come out the priest is
sure to catch you and offer you up in sacrifice on the altar to God."
To which the Lamb replied, "Thanks, I think I will stay where I am;
I'd rather be sacrificed any day by a priest than be eaten up by a
Wolf."
The point is, never take advice from the wicked. Yog koj xav nrog kuv
tham li neeg muaj meejmom thiab koj lub hom phiaj yog yuav los pab kuv
thiab qhia qhov zoo rau kuv tiag no koj puas kam qhia kuv saib koj yog
kuv leej tij twg? Yog koj ho txaj muag qhia hauv no los koj email
ncaj qha rau kuv los tau.
Charlie
tsee...@wapda.com (tseemyeej) wrote in message news:<4d521a95.04071...@posting.google.com>...
> charlie,
>
Charlie
The good we do should always outweigh the bad. Muaj ib zaj dabneeg
hais lino:
The Weasel and the Man
A Man once caught a Weasel, which was sneaking about the neighbors'
houses, and was one day caught by a man and was going to be drown in a
tub. The Weasel then begged hard for its life and said to the man,
"Surely you have not the heart to put me to death, do you? I am a
Weasel, but please think of how useful I have been clearing your house
of the mice and lizards which used to infest. Please show your
gratitude, and spare me."
The Man replied, "You have not been altogether useless, I will help
you but who killed the fowls? Who stole the meat?" No! You do much
more harm than good, I shall not let you go easily.
My point is: The good that we do should always outweigh the bad. Yog
hais tias yus tau ua zoo ntau tshaj qhov phem lawm ces luag yuav zam
txim, tab sis yus ua phem ntaus tshaj lawm ces kawg yuav tsum nkaum
yuav li Neohmong thiab Ceeb lawv cov no lawm xwb. Tawm los los pheej
ntshai tsam zoo li tus Weasel no. Cas tej laus twb ua lub ua ntsiav
qhia los neeg yeej kawm tsis tau li. Ntshai ntuj yeej tsis tej tus
neeg los ua phem ces puam chawj lau.
Charlie
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neohmong
Kuv los xav tau raws nraim li yawg Charlie cov lus thiab tiag, hais
tias peb ua neeg nyob yog yus tsis pom yus qhov bad outweigh yus qhov
good ces yus thiaj li maub dub xaus ntiv qhiav tag zog, zoo li Charlie
lawv cov kubxaj ces thiaj li dag Hmoob kom rau rau siab ua teb chaws
los tau 30 xyoo no, tab sis tsis pom dab tsis tswm sim li tsuas yog
pom Hmoob rau Nplog caum tua puv toj puv pes xwb tiag. Kuv xav tias
tsam no mas yawg Tsav Lis txawj xav kawg li tuaj lawm.
NeoHmong
charli...@yahoo.com (Charlie) wrote in message news:<bd1cd63a.04071...@posting.google.com>...
tseemyeej
> Koj tag li ko lawm los tseem tshuav thiab? Wb nyuam qhuav sib tham.
> Kuv tseem xav tau hais tias koj yuav pib nkag siab xwb koj twb siv cem
> kuv ua "pam thawj noj nkhawb, thiab ntsej muag ruam tsis muaj ruam"]
Tus yuav khaws tej lus zoo mus ua neej ces yeej tsis tas yuav cav muaj
yeej muaj swb mam khaws. Txog txij luag hais hnyav zog los vim yus
yeej ib nyuag pam thawj tiag thiab nawb, txhob xav li cas. Kom koj xav
tias kuv zoo li Buddha tsis muaj lo NTSHAW thiab KHIB lawm, leej twg
xav khaws kuv cov lus mus siv ces khaws xwb hos tsis khaws los lwm
leej lwm tus yeej tos nrhw yuav txais mus yaug ncauj yaug lo.
> Koj puas tau hnov ib zaj lus nruag hu ua, "Tus Hma thiab Tus Yaj."
Fable is good for kids only. I'm too matured for that.
> The point is, never take advice from the wicked. Yog koj xav nrog kuv
> tham li neeg muaj meejmom thiab koj lub hom phiaj yog yuav los pab kuv
> thiab qhia qhov zoo rau kuv tiag no koj puas kam qhia kuv saib koj yog
> kuv leej tij twg? Yog koj ho txaj muag qhia hauv no los koj email
> ncaj qha rau kuv los tau.
Kuv tsis yog ib tug neeg muaj meejmom but surely not a wicked as you
said, koj txhob tos pom kuv, koj tsuas khaws yuav kuv cov lus qhuab
xwb. Kuv tus kheej ces tsis loj tsis siab kav taw dub nciab, tsis siab
tsis qis tug niag plab zais zis xwb. Ntawm cheeb tsam kuv nyob no, kuv
yeej tsis mus fim leej twg li (mind my own business), tsuas yog thaum
twg luag tws kev mas luag sij pheej tuaj sab laj yuav advices ntawm
kuv xwb. Nyob hauv SCH no koj thiaj ntsiav kuv zoo li tus yeeb ncuab
tab sis in real life I'm a well respected person. ID is not important,
so just keep Tseemyeej as our point of contact.
Bye,
Tseemyeej.
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tseemyeej
Ntu nuav tsis nov koj moo le lawm es koj moog ua saub rua hov twg tsis
qhas kuv le naj? Tsuv tum awd...
> mej yeej sis txheeb hab sis raug zoog lug lawm nev.
> Mej yeej ib txwm tau noj sav noj nyoog ua ke lug es mej txhaj sis paub zoo
> ua luaj. Kuv ntshai nyob tsaam ces luav tsi pw luav qub zeg lawm xwb lauv.
Txhob nyaaj hab lam tej nam lug paam thawj le kua maj!!! Kuv yeem tsis
paub txug puab cov hov le hab kuas peb txuj kev xaav moog sis xws xwb.
Yaam le tej nyuj neeg uas ua paa sis hum ces nyob taug ua ke xwb caav
tsws txheeb ceg qaab los sis ceg teg le os koj yawm awd.
Ncus ntsoov moog ua saub nua has qhas kuv hab ov.
Tseemyeej.
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Charlie
Kuv mamli khaws koj cov lus cia; yog li ces txhua tus uas hais lus
phem, phem rau kuv thaum twg ces yog koj xwb. Thajtsam ntawm kuv nyob
no tsis muaj ib co neeg hais lus ko thiab tsis muaj leejtwg ua
phoojywg rau cov uas rov tawmtsam yus haiv neeg li nej ko; muaj tus
puav thiab tabsis lawv nkaum ib yam nkausli koj thiab xwb. Thaum lawv
ob-peb leeg nyob uake mas lawv mamli tham ntxhi hos duali ntawm thaum
sawdaws coob, coob ces lawv nyob li daum raug xub.
Koj yog hom no ne yuam? It's okay. It's your prerogative to attack
tom cajtw tuaj; that's what the Internet is good for...
Charlie
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Moobsib
dlev nuam yaaj huv nuav lawm xwb os. Sov ua caag mo nuav pw pw txug ib
taag mo dlua tseem ua npau suav tsiv Nyablaaj ces txhaj sawv lug soj
mej qaab.
Ca ntu puav moog tsheej thaum twg nua ces maam tshaabxu rua mej paub
nawb!..
MS
Moobsib
Ua li es koj tau xuas hneev tua Daum los dua lawm los cas es koj ho
paub tias Daum raug xub zoo li cas naj? Kuv saib ntu uas Daum raug xub
yuav yog 100 tawm xyoo dhau los xwb poj. Peb phaum no ces kawg rau
muas txwv xwb tiag.
Ua ntsuag khav hwv os... Ib ntsis ces Commies sawv coob coob hauv koj
zos ces koj ho laj nyob nawb....
ms
XejThim
Koj hais li kos ces yawm Tsaav yeej ntau nqi kiag tias koj yog ib tug
communist yuav sawv against yawm Tsaav txoj kas moos mus ua nom tim
nplog lawm no os. Ceev faj tsam yawm Tsaav lam xuas dub muab koj tsav
os mog. Ziag no ces txhua txhua tus Hmoob tsis npuab yawm Tsaav qab
tshob ces nws yeej ua qhov muag qauj le tias cov ntawd yog commies xwb
no tiag. Koj saib yawm Tsaav wb mas yeej ib txwm yog npoj yaig kwv
luag sib rwb sib raws ua kev nyob ua kev yuav luag npaum li yug tawm
ib lub plab los ziag no nws twb muab kuv muag rau communist lawm nas.
paajd...@yahoo.com (Moobsib) wrote in message news:<818ff16c.04072...@posting.google.com>...
tseemyeej
Koj pheej xav tias koj zaj yog xwb hos luag tej hais mas yog NplogLiab
thiab yog rov taw tuam ntuj, tawmtsam yus haiv neeg xwb. Hmmm...? Koj
tsim nyog serve koj qhov slavery time lawm tiag laud.
Congratulation!!!
> Thajtsam ntawm kuv nyob no tsis muaj ib co neeg hais lus ko thiab tsis muaj
> leejtwg ua phoojywg rau cov uas rov tawmtsam yus haiv neeg li nej ko; muaj
> tus puav thiab tabsis lawv nkaum ib yam nkausli koj thiab xwb. Thaum lawv
> ob-peb leeg nyob uake mas lawv mamli tham ntxhi hos duali ntawm thaum
> sawdaws coob, coob ces lawv nyob li daum raug xub.
Rooj teb koj nyob ko, txawm koj yuav popular npaum twg los puam chawj
kuv tseem ntseeg 100% tias yog kuv tuaj txog kuv yuav tsum popular
tshaj koj 1%. Koj tsis tas yuav piv kuv rau tus DAUM vim kuv yog hom
neeg poob dej dej tsis tshoob poob hluav tawv hluav taws tsis kub
lawm.
Kuv tuaj hauv SCH no ntev tav no muaj 3 tug thiaj tawm tsam kuv xwb.
Tab sis koj tib leeg thiaj cam thawj tug niag vwm leg. Hos 1 tug ntawm
2 tug i mas kuv xav tias yog koj tus kwv los yog koj tus tij laug, tab
sis nkawd tsuas hais lo puav xwb kuj tsum lawm. Es koj nev? Muaj tsawg
leej tawm tsam nab????
Mus saib kuv zaj lus hauv: "Suav thiab Eesdias".
koj mam xav xwb saib kuv hais pos yog?
tseemyeej.
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Charlie
I used the language that our fore-fathers' peers can understand.
Tseemyeej said he knew many ways before I was born; the "daum raug
xub" should not be that old of an cliche. Dua li ntawd, niaj hnub no
peb cov kwvtij Hmong uas nyob havzoov tseem xuas hneev tua tau nqaij
daum no. Cas koj yuav hais tias muaj 100 xyoo lawm.
Kuv tsis yog khav! Kuv hais qhov tseeb xwb. Yog koj paub ib co
Commies in Michigan uas tseem tham muaj zog zis nyob qhov twg no
lwmzaus koj qhia kuv. Kuv yuav txav zog mus kom ze me ntsis.
Charlie
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Moobsib
Txij le kuv luj hlub huv Lostsuas teb, kuv yeej tsi tau nov peb Hmoob
xuas neev tua ib tug Pubthawj/Daum le es kuv txhaj tsi paub sov Daum
raug xub ntsoos le caag mas. Ua le koj txawm xuas neev tua Daum lug
dlua lawm lov? Los yog koj has nam noog taujvaub/pujdaum xwb maj?
Has txug Commies mas kuv cov lug tsuas txhais has tas yog mej ua
Kaasmoos mej yuav tau xyuam xwm, yuav tau ua zoo hab coj zoo. Mej yuav
tau ua zoo kuas txaus es cov nyuas naj nub ua xyem xyaav le peb txhaj
le yuav lug poo mej. Tsi le ntawd ces ib ntsiv mej yuav ua nraug zeeg
muag le Xejthim has ces peb ca le yog Commies taag le lawm. Thaum
ntawd yuav nyuaj rua mej heev.
Moobsib
tseemyeej
Puab cov hov haam tsis tua Daum tag las as. Xyoo 1968?, puab moog
ntxag tau ib paab Daum nraag Khamkeuth tuaj zuv Khaib
XamXSauj(ThabHamNpab), cev cov nam hov cas les muab thauj ncaaj qhas
dlua puag tom ThoobHaimHeem lawm. Pab nam Daum hov ces tsua moog NTSIV
QUAV TSIS LUG le lawm tag. Sad story....The last airlift of the group
was saved by a good hmong who told them to choose their own
destiny(has paaj lug). They were only a few left.
Poor DAUM.....!!!
Tseemyeej.
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XejThim
Cas ntxim li koj yog ib tug Hmoob Khamkeuth thiab nas...cas yuav paub
zoo txog lawv phav Hmoob Khamkeuth caj ceg ua luaj li.
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tseemyeej
Es charlie hu kuv yijlaug, kuv thiaj teb tias kuv yog nws TijLaug no
nev.
Ham tsis kuv yawg lawv nyob nram Khamkeuth les es. Peb twb yog pab
khiav coolie 15 hnub ntag mad. Peb nyuam qhuav rov los XeevKhuam thaum
rog KongLe tsis ntev xwb.
Tseemyeej.
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neohmong
Tsis yog hais mus hais tuaj es txog neb tseem taug Thovpab thiab Peter
Phiab nkawv qab thiab nawb mog ob niag tsov tom nees daj dua ntawm neb
na. Wjj...neb mas hais tau tej yam niag txaus txaus poob poob siab
li...hahahaahha..txawm li cas los peb yog tib co kwv tij khawb mes xwb
ces kav liam os...
NeoHmong
Xej...@yahoo.com (XejThim) wrote in message news:<4133ef88.04072...@posting.google.com>...
tseemyeej
Cas yuav tham tu siab ua luaj naj? Lam tham pem xwb mas. Vim qhov
topic "MUAS CHOJ..." twb fade out lawm thiaj lam laug hnub laug hmo
tos Charlie los nws twb tsis ua suab sab, tsis teb li thiab Ab yaj yaj
yaj...Tos paub Charlie twb mus ua Zab luj noob lawm. Yawg txawm siv
mus yaim ....npluj npliv ua tug me tsw quav ntxiag sab tod tuaj. This
is what we call political incorrected. Hm....? Peb pab no twb tsis tau
muaj leej twg cem yawg tias NTSEJ MUAG RUAM...NPUAV Q... no li tab
sis yawg ho tsis yeem nrog peb nyob yawg ho kam mus ua Zab TswQuav
qhev. Tej zaum nws xav tias tsuav yeej yus pab me so called NplogLiab
xwb.
Tseemyeej.
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Charlie
Kuv pum daum raug xub lawm. Kuv tua tsis tau, tabsis kuv cov tijlaug
thiab tej niam tej txi tua tau thaum peb khiav havzoov hauv Teb Chaws
Los Tsuas xyoo 1975 txog 1979. Koj xav hais tias wb tseem mos, mos no
los? Kau hniav daj tag lawm hos. Tej zaum koj yog Hmoob niag moos
thiaj koj muaj hmoo tuaj lawm puag ntxov koj thiaj tsis pom. Tsis pom
tej atrocities no los hajyam zoo, vim yog nej pom lawm nej yuav tsis
xav mus ncig tebchaws Los Tsuas. Yog tiam ntawd los txog es kuv tau
rov qab tau mus Tebchaws Los Tsuas kuv yuav yog ibtug uas txwv tsis
pub neeg tua daum, dablaug, nraj, yij, hoshuam, kauv, sai, liab, cuam,
thiab tej me tsiaj nruab nrag no ywjsiab lawm. Lub sihawm uas peb
khiav no, ntshai cov LPDR kawg tabsis pom tej tsiaj no thaum lawv raug
xub lawv ntshai tshaj yus lawm ces ua rau yus thim xav lawm ntau.
Kuv to taub koj zoo heev, tabsis koj puas xav hais tias cov neeg no
zoo li koj.
Yog lawv zoo li koj mas peb twb tsis hais txog txij lino. Ua li koj
puas paub lawv li kuv paub koj? Nraug zeeg tsis nraug zeeg los kawg
lawv co nos tsis kam tawm los fim kuv lawm ne. Ua neeg yog yus ncaj
ncees thiab xav pab luag tiag, yuav zais ntsej zais muag ua dabtsi.
Muaj lus phem lus zoo haiv pov rhees rau saum rooj - look at each
other in the eyes - ces khaws nkaus nyias tug coj mus siv rau nyias
lub luag mas kuv thiaj qhuas. Tuaj mus mas zais ntshis tsis pub kom
luag ntes tau yus, tabsis dhau lawm mas txia ua txiv plis txaij nraug
zees rov tuaj tom yus qaib xwb es kuv yuav ua licas xyuamxwm tau mas?
Xyuamxwm ntau
ob tsag ces kuv qaib tuag tu noob xwb.
Charlie
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Moobsib
Kuv xaav tas koj has Pubthawj raug xwb nua nawj..... Yog has nam noog
taujvaub raug xub mas kuv los yeej tau tua lug dlua lawm. Noog
taujvaub/Pujdaum hab noog Abhau/Dablaug mas thev tshaaj plawg. Xub
chob nkaus lawm los tseem muaj peev xwm yaa taj quas lag rua tim tej
zoov dlub le lawm ces yug ca le nqog nqog quav ncaug xwb tag. Mej leej
twg puas tau tua dlua hab? hehehehehe...
MS
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XejThim
Kuv tsis yog cov nyob Khamkurth ov, tabsis kuv kuj hnov txog ib cov
neeg los yav qab teb nej tham ntawd los lawm thiab los mas.
Cas hais lus ntxim li kuv twb yuav paub neb thiab...aub, kuv tsis yog
ib tug neeg nyiam khiav politic tej zaum ntshai peb yuav tsis sib
paub. Kuv li kuv yog cov neeg niaj hnub nyob hauv tsev zov pojniam
xwb.
Tseemyeej, cas koj yuav hais tau khib Charlie ua luaj mas. Txhob hais
lus tsw tsw kuv nyuag phooj ywg Khamkurth ntawd os tsam muaj hnub koj
tau kev ti ces hos yuav tig rov qab vam nws thiab ov. Koj saib kuv
nrog nws sib cav hauv no xwb twb ua rau nws ua plawv nres ob peb zaug
rau kuv li lawm tiag.
Zoo siab tau ntsib neb hauv no; yog tsis mind no e-mail rau kuv saib
neb puas yog cov neeg kuv paub. Mam tham dua!
neohmong
Txawm li cas los "zaub nchuav tsis puv, mov nchuav tsis puv choo" li
tej hais ntag lau, tsam no Charlie thiab cov kubxaj txawm yuav nyiam
qw nrov paum li cas los Hmoob tsis cuab pob tseg li lawm, Hmoob paub
tias txoj kev ua teb ua chaw yog ib txoj kev phem qias neeg rau Hmoob
taug xwb.
Tej lus peb sib cav nrog lawv cov kubxaj no txawm yuav yog thiab tsis
yog los lub sij hawm no tsis tau muaj qab hau pes tsawg, tab sis ib
hnub tom ntej no Hmoob mam li pom tias cov lus peb tau sau hauv no yog
ib co lus muaj kuab muaj tshuaj rau Hmoob, kuv ntseeg li ntawd.
Xejthim thiab Tseemyeej, zoo li kuv yeej yuav paub neb txog tes li
thiab tiag tab sis cia mam li sib zeem thaum kuv tuaj txog ntawm neb
tsev nawd.
Kuv thov ua tsaug ntau rau qhov neb tshoob hawb kuv zog txij kuv tuaj
nrog lawv cov kubxaj sib cav los tau 2 lub xyoos no. Yog tsis muaj
neb ntshe kuv tsis muaj ceem thiab tsis lom zem kiag li. Ua siab
ntev, peb li luag hauj lwm twb yuav tiav sai sai no lawm, hnub twg num
tiav kuv mam li tuaj zaum tsoo khob nrog neb mog.
Wjj...nov qaab lawm, tij laug Hmoobsib, yog hnub twg num tiav kuv mam
li yaum kom tau Xejthim thiab Tseemyeej nkawv nrog kuv tuaj kab phaj
cawv sam xeeb koj tus ua tij kom tsim hnyog qhov koj tau tuaj kiab
kiab khais khais peb cov kwv nawb.
Mov tshua,
XejThim
Yog li koj hais lawm, cov kujxaj qhaj naj tej kev ntxeev ntxias ces
tsuas muaj tsuag zuj zus mus lawm xwb. Kuv xav tias tos li tej lus peb
hais no pheej chob chob lawv siab los twb yog peb qhia qhov tseeb es
lawv ntshai tsam tib neeg paub lawv lub qes lawv thiaj xij pheej chim
ua luaj. Lub ntuj tig zuj zus ua rau me nyuam Hmoob pom kev dav zuj
zus lawm ntseeg tias cov coob yuav tsis lam qaug quav yooj yim lawm,
tab sis kom nco ntsoov tias peb cov Hmoob ib feem tseem nyiam nyiam
ntseeg txoj kev dag ntxias heev yog tias leej twg muaj laj lim tswv
yim kav tsij yeej meem tshab xo ntxiv tiag kom suav daws paub txog
lawv pab nyuag kujxaj txoj kev dag noj dag haus no lub hom phiaj.
tseemyeej
Txawm peb yuav yog leej twg los tsis tseem ceeb, tsuav peb pom tib lub
hom phiaj xwb. Yog nyob nyob ho tsis muaj txoj hmoo sib ntsib no los
tsuav peb nco tib ntsuj ntsoov tias peb yog HMOOB xwb ces twb zoo zoo
kawg lawm. Txawm kuv cem charlie los tsuas yog CEM xwb kuv cav tsis
tau cais npho li nws cais tias peb mas nim yog Nplogliab thiab peb mas
nim rov taw tuam ntuj, nim tsis yog hmoob lawm... Peb tsuas cav txoj
CAI xwb, peb tsis cais tus HMOOB.
Yawm Moobsib,
Kuv tug kheej mas has rua koj paub tas kev npau suav yeej muaj ntau
heev kuas yaam yug xaav tsis thooj le luag xaav. Yog le hov kuv txhaj
tsis muaj political goal and never want to be with any faction at all.
mou...@yahoo.com
You sais I was a good friend of yours. I frankly honor such statement,
however you used to be my friend once and it will continue to be the
way it used to forever; and nothing will change our friendship.
Politics is a game, someone might win today and lose tomorrow. So,
winning and losing won't matter to me. Tsuas yow xav pom kom peb Hmoob
muaj noj muaj haus thiab muaj vaj huam sib luag li lwm haiv neeg xwb
twb zoo siab lawm.
Lo lus Politics no qhov tseeb tiag ces yog kev sib txeeb nom sib txeeb
tswv xwb. Ib tus neeg twg los sib hais thiab tau tawm tswv yim ces
yeej yog tib lub hom phiaj xwb. Txhob xav mus lwm yam ntau ntau thiaj
tsis mob hlwb, tsuas xav hais tias yeej yuav muaj hnub tsiab xwb,
whereas sunset and sunrise. We all are waiting for it.
You are always my best freiend.
Muas Choj
neohmong
Txhob poob siab kiag li "qav ces kawg rov ua qav" xwb. Tseemyeej, koj
hais yog lawm tsuas yog cov nyuag kubxaj thiaj muab peb lo rau
Nplogliab thiab xyeeb cais peb tawm ntawm lub koom haum kubxaj; tab
sis pab lawv cov kubxaj tu siab ntau tias lawv cais peb tawm ces lawv
tsis tau looj noob coob ntxiv lawv lawm xwb, hos ntawm Hmoob mas Hmoob
yeej tsis khuv yuav cais peb tawm kiag li.
3 tug phooj ywg, nco ntsoov tias peb tsuas "xyeej tsawg xwb tsis xyeej
coob" kiag li, hu ua Hmoob no xwb ces txawm yuav nyiam yog LIAB, DAWB,
NTSUAB, TXAIJ, DAJ, XIAV, zoo li cas thiab nyob rau qhov twg los xij,
peb yeem tsis xyeej/cais kiag li.
NeoHmong
tseemyeej
Good to hear from you again, I know that as young elites, We all did
share the same dream "HMOOB CIAJVAJ". But this dream, later, caused
conflict of opinions among us, look at Hawj Dee and BounMee lost their
lives, Thoob Thoj lost his leg as well. Their losts may have the same
dream but not the same political ambitions. Sometime, I couldn't
figure out what was behind these sacrifices?
Neohmong,
Kuv tos taub koj tej lus zoo, sab twg los peb yeej tshuav txheeb
tshuav ze thiab tshuav phooj tshuav ywg. Muaj ib xyoos ib tug neej tsa
tuaj nrog lawv sab laj pawg Kubxaj nws los sov hauv kuv. Kuv thiaj nug
nws tias nws tus kwv kiag niam txiv ib plab yug twb yog ib tug MD nyob
LosTsuas, es yog txog thaum kawg muaj tsov muaj rog nos nws tua pos
taus tus kw? Nws teb tias tua tsis taus. Kuv thiaj hais raus nws tias
yog li no koj tuaj sab laj ua dab tsi? Nws teb tias sau tau me ntsis
nyiaj es coj tuaj xwb...Uhmmm?
Tseemyeej.
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Anti
pub kubxaj ua hauj lawm nrog nej li, tsis pub kubxaj tuaj nrog nej
tsib tham li, thiab tseem hwv tias yuav muab cov kubxaj no ruav tsem
kom tag thiab.
tej no es tsis yog cais thiab ces ntse yog tus neeg ruam lawm xwb.
kubxaj ruam los kubxaj tsis niaj hnub tuaj cem nej hauv no, muab nej
tej npe sau tias enemy #1 , thiab hais tias yuav muab nej rhuav tsem
tawm li nej ua rau kubxaj.
kubxaj tsis yog yuav rhuav tsem hmoob li nej, kubxaj tshuas rhuav tsem
communist xwb tab sis nej hlub communist es nej ho mus nres mos txwv
thiv thaiv cov communist ces txog thaum kawg nej ho tuag lawm los
txhob tu siab rau kubxaj thiab kubxaj ho tuag rau nej cov mos txwv
lawm los tej zaum kubxaj yuav tsis tu siab.
amen
Pos Muas
Koj mas siab loj siab dav tiag tiag yom. Kuv twb pab koj npau taws
kawg rau Tseem Yeej thaum nws cem tias, "Txawj Pov Muas cov niag tub
uas ntshaw ntshaw nom" no tab sis koj tseem hais tias Tseem Yeej yog
koj ib tug phooj ywg zoo. Zoo kawg qhov uas koj yeej tsis chim rau
Tseem Yeej txawm yog nws yuav hais li ntawd rau koj. Los nrhiav kev
daws tso pej xeem Los Tsuas kom dim ntawm Nplog Liab ob txhais tes
hlau, yuav tau coj dav dav li koj tiag thiaj li yuav puag tau sawv
daws rau hauv txoj kev vam meej.
Muas Pos
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Rhwbliag
Kuv xav tias yog yuav ua Kammoos tiag mas yuav tau ua phawv to qab li
ntawd mas thiaj tau xwb. Yuav tau to taub tias tej lus uas pejxeem
tshum los liam yus li ub li no mas luag tsuas sim saib yus siab puas
ntev thiab yus puas txawj txaus xwb. Yus yuav tau ua siab loj siab
ntev los tuav kom tau yus tej yeej ncuab tib si mas yus thiaj yuav
yeej. Nyuam qhuav pib xwb es yeeb ncuab sawv puv tos vaj tos tsev ces
tsi tas yuav ua kammoos li mas....
Tam sim no sawv daws tseem txhawj thiab ntshais hais tias MC yog tus
mojzeej rau VP xwb no es sawv daws thiaj tsi ntseeg yawg xwb. Thaum
sawv daws paub tseeb tias MC tsi yog mojzeej rau leej twg lawd kuv
ntseeg hais tias neeg yuav tig zuj zus los koom tes nrog yawg, yog
tias yawg tsi muaj hidden agenda naj.
Rhwbliag
tseemyeej
Ua cas koj pheej always be there for Choj's protection? Becuz neb yog
MUAS lov? Los yog koj yog Choj tus silhouette maj? Since you insist so
much, let's set the friendship aside and have a debate? Would you
dare represent Choj?
> Koj mas siab loj siab dav tiag tiag yom. Kuv twb pab koj npau taws
> kawg rau Tseem Yeej thaum nws cem tias, "Txawj Pov Muas cov niag tub
> uas ntshaw ntshaw nom" no tab sis koj tseem hais tias Tseem Yeej yog
> koj ib tug phooj ywg zoo.
Muaj tseeb kawg, kuv yeej tau hais li ntawd tiag, but if you can't
take other's opinion then you'll have no chance in this new millinium.
Muaj ntau zaus cov hluas tub ncaws pob hmoob pheej complain tias ua
cas soccer tournament thaum twg mas pheej txais lwm haiv neeg tuaj
participate? Kuv teb lawv tias yog koj pheej ncaws yeej koj tus kwv
xwb ces koj tseem tsis tau yog tus champ. Ciav lwm tus muab koj luam
zaum puav kom nplaig hlauv mas koj thiaj paub koj lub zog txog qhov
twg.
PosMuas, yav tag los vim lawv coob leej cheem kuv thiaj uv koj, zaum
no yog koj nrauj tsis taus tseg tsis nyog ces pib koj lub ncauj lus
tuaj tau.
Tseemyeej.
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Pos Muas
Ntawm kuv thiab koj tseem tshuav dab tsi thiab na? Kuv tsis tshuav
dab tsi yuav nrog koj hais lawm vim thaum ntej kuv xav tias koj cog
pos ncig koj tsev ces cia kuv ho cog pos ncig kuv tsev thiab es thiaj
sib phim nyob ua ke koom zej koom zos no, tab sis kuv mus saib Muas
Choj na has yawg ho cog paj zoo zoo nkauj ncig tsev xwb. Kuv tseem
tshuav ntau yuav xyaum coj kom tau siab loj siab dav li Muas Choj
thiaj tsim nyog qhov niaj hnub hais tias yuav tso kom tau Hmoob dim
ntawm txoj kev raug luag quab yuam caij tsuj.
Ntawm tus kas moos, koj twb yeej hais tias nyuj kub pam thawj tsis tas
yuav nrau nyuj kub zuag; qhia tau hais tias koj nyob koj nruab deg,
kuv nyob kuv nruab nqhuab ces wb ob leeg txawm yuav saib tib daig duab
los ntshe koj pom yog tsov hos kuv pom yog dais ces cia koj taug koj
kab kuv taug kuv kev. Kuv txawm yuav cab tau tus nees mus rau nram
pas dej los yog tus nees tsis nqhis dej ces kuv yeej yuam tsis tau kom
tus nees haus dej li.
Muas Pos
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tseemyeej
> Ntawm kuv thiab koj tseem tshuav dab tsi thiab na?
Yog tsis tshuav ces txhob tees txog kuv lub npe xwb ces tau lawm.
That's fine.
> Kuv tsis tshuav dab tsi yuav nrog koj hais lawm vim thaum ntej kuv xav tias
> koj cog pos ncig koj tsev ces cia kuv ho cog pos ncig kuv tsev thiab es thiaj
> sib phim nyob ua ke koom zej koom zos no,
Koj lo lus no txhais tau tias Muas Choj neb yog IB TSEV no lov? Los
yog txhais tau hais tias neb yog IB TUG kiag no maj?
Luag tej laus hais tias tus cem thiaj yog tus hlub no, ua li peb vaj
tsab xeem lis ob cag ib nyuag hais xwb txawm siv "TUB QAUG" (this is
your own words)koj lawm es yog muaj txoj hmoo Muas Choj tau ua nom no
nws yuav los kav pej xeem los yog los kav NEJ TSEV li koj hais xwb
maj? Yuav tsum qhia peb paub ua ntej nkim peb tej zog ov.
Have a nice day.
Pos Muas
Kuv siab me zog lawm es koj ib nyuag hais txog Txawj Pov Muas thiab
nws cov tub xwb, twb tsis yog hais rau kuv los twb tub qaug kuv kiag
lawm tiag. Tab sis Muas Choj, tus uas koj hais kiag rau twb ho tsis
muab koj tej lus ntawd ntaus nqi phem dab tsi thiaj ua rau kuv ib
nyuag txaj muag hais tias kuv siab tseem me hwv tiag. Koj lub npe
tseeb, kuv tsis paub tab sis koj lub npe "Tseem Yeej" koj txawm yuav
tsis xav pub rau kuv ntos txog no los, kuv tseem yuav thov siv ntxiv
mus nawb. Koj ib nyuag tsis nyiam kuv lub tswv yim xwb es kuv txawm
yuav tsis ntos txog koj lub npe no mas kuv ho muab coj nqaim hwv lawm.
Tsis tas li xwb ua tsaug rau koj cov lus qhia hais tias yog tseem
hais lus li kuv hais no xwb no mas ntshe yog ua nom los kav kuv tsev
neeg xwb. Muaj tseeb, ntawm kuv tus kheej, lub siab yeej tsis tau dav
txaus tiag. Tab sis Thov koj tso siab rau Muas Choj; nyaj yawg yuav
tsis lam peem kom ciaj ib tug coj es los kav yawg tsev neeg xwb.
Muas Choj, thov txim ntau ntawm koj uas kuv tau los txais cua es ua
rau Tseem Yeej nyaj siab hais tias kuv thiab koj yog tib tug neeg no
nawb. Ntawm koj thiab Tseem Yeej neb txoj kev phooj ywg neb yeej meem
tis hlua kom khov tshaj qub ntxiv.
Muas Pos
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Moobsib
Le Tseemyeej has, taab txawm peb cov nuav yeej txheeb ze txiv dlaab
laug Muas Choj kawg los peb yeej tseem xaav tau twb ywm rua nruab sab
tas nyob tsaam ces nwg yog mojzeej rua lwm tug vim tas nwg sawv huv 2
tsev neeg muaj koob hab muaj qhov zoo qhov phem lug lawm. Yog le ntawd
mas txiv dlaab MC yuav tau ua lub sab luj hab yuav tau coj lub sab
ntev lug cob qha pejxeem Hmoob/Lostsuas kuas suav dlawg to taub nwg
meej. It is not going to be easy though, in my personal view. Txawm le
ntawd los yog nwg muaj pluaj sab ncaaj, zoo hab pheejxeeb lug coj ib
zej tsoom pejxeem fuab fwm lawd, nwg yuav tsum tau txais txaj ntshaa
txaj ntsim xwb xwb.
Mov hab tshua,
PDY
tseemyeej
> koj lub npe "Tseem Yeej" koj txawm yuav tsis xav pub rau kuv ntos txog
> no los, kuv tseem yuav thov siv ntxiv mus nawb.
Npe ces yeej tis los rau tib neeg hu tab sis koj hais tias:
> Ntawm kuv thiab koj tseem tshuav dab tsi thiab na?
Kuv thiaj xav tias you meant what you said, so let it be that way:
> Yog tsis tshuav ces txhob teev txog kuv lub npe xwb ces tau lawm.
> Tsis tas li xwb ua tsaug rau koj cov lus qhia hais tias yog tseem
> hais lus li kuv hais no xwb no mas ntshe yog ua nom los kav kuv tsev
> neeg xwb.
Yam twg yog kuv hais lawm mas kuv yeej lees paub ntag, tab sis yog yam
kuv tsis tau hais mas txhob muab coj mus ua zab txuas ceg. Please keep
it simple and plain. Kuv cov lus yog lus interrogative not
affirmative.
> yog muaj txoj hmoo Muas Choj tau ua nom no nws yuav los
> kav pej xeem los yog los kav NEJ TSEV li koj hais xwb maj?
Anyway, what I said was just an opinion. Please help me say HI to tij
laug MUAS NPAWV with my deepest respect. You seem to be very closed to
him right?
Tseemyeej.
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