Siv Yis yog dabneeg los yog kev ntseeg (religion)?
lha
Tam li kuv nyeem YTK zaj Siv Yis story no mas zoo li nws yog ib zaj
dabneeg fairy tail xwb, ua li cas hov muaj ib txhia muab coj los coj
li religion? Koj hov xav li cas?
lha
vaajmoob
hab xwb los yog vim le caag ho hu ua xamxabnam hab naj,
vmged
cwjmem
Yaj Tshaj Koob
Kwv lha,
Nyob zoo tus kwv lha, zoo siab kawg uas koj thiab kuv peb sawv daws
los yug tau ua Hmoob nyob ua ke rau ib lub caij xyoog li tiam no, Kuv
nug koj tias koj pos tau kawm dua American History? Txhua yam uas sau
ua phau ntawv yog leej twg sau? Tej ntawv uas peb niaj hnub sau no
puas yog nrog tib neeg tshwm sim tib lub caij los ua ke? Valentine day
uas peb cov ntseeg Jesus ua txua txhua xyoo hauv Church yog dab tsis?
American Constitution yog dab tsis? Phau ntawv Bible yog leej twg sau?
yog cia li poob saum ntujlos los sis yog neeg sau? Kuv ntseeg tias
txhua yam kuv teev npe los saum toj no puav leej yog neeg sau, yog
neeg sau ces puav leej yog dab neeg, tej ntawv tshwm sim tom qab no li
suav tug ntwv tau 3000 tawm xyoo los rau nim no xwb, lub ntiaj teb twb
tshwm sim tau many million years lawm raws li cov science hais. Txua
yam zoo thiab phem ua ntej tsis tau muaj ntawv, mas noob neej puav
leej muab ua dab neeg hais tag nrho. see you again brother lha.
YTK
mobsiab
Cov phoojywg , peb sim sib pab los muab lolus DABNEEG txhais saib yog
li cas tiag. Raws kuv totaub mas yuav tsis yog txhais tias
HISTORY ,yuav yog hais txog neeg thiab dab vin tias thaum yau , mloog
pog thiab yawg hais dabneeg mas yeej yog hais txog dab thiab neeg
xwb, thiab tejzaum mas yuav yog DAG NEEJ txhais tau tias yog ib lub
neej uas tus hais los sau ntawd dag (xev), txua rau kom muaj paus
muaj tsis coj los qhuab qhia neeg ua neej xwb no.
tseemyeej
On Oct 12, 6:51 am, mobsiab <mobsia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cov phoojywg , peb sim sib pab los muab lolus DABNEEG txhais saib yog
> li cas tiag. Raws kuv totaub mas yuav tsis yog txhais tias HISTORY
Chivkeeb huamyuaj DABNEEG yeej yog HISTORY ntag. DabNeeg yog tej
ZajLus uas tshwmsim los ntev niaj ntau tiam lawm. Hos yog tej yam es
nyuamqhuav tshwmsim tsis ntev no ces lawv hu ua KwvHuam no. Vim Hmoob
tsis muaj ntaubntawv ces tus tsis txawj piav kuj piav raws nraim li
muaj xwb hos tus txawj ces, txawm ua zab txuas ceg, yim xev yim zoo
mloog li lawm. Thaum kawg DABNEEG thiaj muaj ib kuag tseeb ib kuag
cuav.
> , thiab tejzaum mas yuav yog DAG NEEJ txhais tau tias yog ib lub
> neej uas tus hais los sau ntawd dag (xev), txua rau kom muaj paus
> muaj tsis coj los qhuab qhia neeg ua neej xwb no.
Qhov koj hais tias yog DAG NEEG no ces yog li kuv hais los saud xwb.
Nyob ntawm tus txawm piav kom phim. Tib yam li zaj DABNEEG YESXUS mas
chivthawj yeej muaj tseeb, tabsis, thaum piav txog qhov uas YESXUS
tuag 3 hnub es nws mam sawv mus rau saum ntuj lawm ces ho yog DAGNEEG
lawm. Vim tias, yog tsis puabciab kom muaj-j ceem li ntawd ces tib
neeg tsis teev hawm lawm.
Hais txog lha cov lus mas, tej zaum nws tseem hluas hwv ces nws thiaj
xav lintawd, tabsis luag tej laus ib txwm piv lus tias: "paub ces
laus, txawj ces tuag" no ov. Hnub no nws tau noj tau haus ces nws xav
tias nws xuas raug txoj xubkev lawm no. Tabsis, muaj ib hnub twg nws
tau kev tws, nws yuav hloov siab thiab. Raws li kuv ntiag tug ntsib
dua los mas, zoo nkaus li yus noj tshuaj ntag; chivthawj yam li ntxim
thiab, tabsis, noj mus noj los, tshuaj lawm tshuaj, mob nyob mob li
lawm. Hos mus sim lwm yam tshuaj no ces nws hos ntxim zoj ib ntus, ho
rov tsis ntxim lawm thiab. Neeg lub cev thiab tus ntsujplig ces zoo
tib yam, yog ntu yus tsis nyuamsiab ntxhovplawv ces tsis tas ua neeb,
tsis tas mus church, tsis tas mus wat li. Tabsis yog ntu yus muaj kev
nyuamsiab ntxhovplawv ces zaj twg los tsuas pab tsis kawg siab. Ua
neeb los ua npaud, pe hawm Vajtswv los pe npaud, mus thov haujsam
kebkhub los npaud li thiab, txawm li los ib hnub yus tus mob pheej loj
zujzus li xwb.
Txhais tau tias; tsis muaj ib hom religion twg yuav zoo tas-s thiab
phem tas-s, tib yam li tej tshuaj kho mob thiab, nyob ntawm ntu yus
tus mob loj los mob me, ntu yus lub neej ntu phem los ntu zoo xwb.
TseemYeej.
lha
YTK,
Vim koj piav tuaj lawm ces yuav tau nug thiaj li paub kom meej. Kuv
tsuas yog xav kawm ntawm koj xwb ov, tsis yog tuaj nrog koj sib cav
kom muaj yeej muaj swb. Nej ntau tug twb yeej paub txog Yexus lawm
ces peb tsis tag piav ntxiv lawm. Yog koj tsis xav li cas no ces cia
wb los tham thiab nug txog Siv Yis, vim kuv ntseeg tias ntau tug yeej
tseem tsis tau paub meej txog nws li. Koj pos pom zoo li no thiab los
tsis pom?
First, kuv zoo siab tau hnov Tseemyeej haistias kuv tseem hluas. Kuv
yuav coj qhov no mus qhia rau kuv niag meb thaub seb nws hov xav li
cas.
Kuv nyeem koj zaj Siv Yis no txog tog xwb ua rau kuv muaj questions
ntau heev li. Yog koj tsis xav li cas no cia kuv nug koj 2-3
los.
Yog vim li cas es nyob nyob ntxwg nyoog niam thiab txiv cia li tawm
tom mem toj los? How can this be? Yog thaum ntawd tsis muaj DAB no,
ua li cas lawv hov txawj muab tus nyuag menyuam ntawv tis npe hu ua
DAB? Es tiam ntawv dab yeej noj neeg tiag tiag lov? Thiab tiam ntawv
neeg yeej mus mus los los tau saum ntuj thiab rov qab los tau hauv
ntiajteb lov? Es neeg txawj txias mus ua tsiaj thiab? Ua li tus
menyuam dab ntawv txawj multiply himself too? Kuv saib zoo li nkawv
yug tau ib tug xwb los sav, ua cas tom qab no koj hov haistias muaj
dab coob coob tuaj lawm?
Kuv saib mas nws zoo li ib zaj DABNEEG xwb, tabsis koj cia li muab nws
coj los ua ib txoj kev ntseeg lawm. Yog kuv yuamkev qhov twg no thov
qhia kom kuv paub thiab nawb.
Leejtwg thiaj li qualify los define lo lus dabneeg no rau peb tau, los
yog peb nyias muaj nyias qhov definition?
More questions later…
lha
vaajmoob
ces defines ua lug mekas nua naj,
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-folktale.htm
A folktale is a type of traditional story that tries to explain or
understand the world. Such stories were orally passed down through the
generations and feature morals or lessons. The stories usually take
place long ago in a faraway place and are woven around talking
animals, royalty, peasants, or mythical creatures.
In a folktale, goodness is always rewarded. Heroes and heroines live
happily ever after while villains are suitably punished. Throughout
the generations, the story may change but its core remains the same.
Folktales usually have no identified author, but they mirror the
values and culture of the society from which they originated
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Yaj Tshaj Koob
lha,
Koj cov lus xav nug yeej zoo kawg, koj nug hais tias....
> Yog vim li cas es nyob nyob ntxwg nyoog niam thiab txiv cia li tawm
> tom mem toj los?
Lub caij no Noob neej los tseem muaj tsawg, lub ntuj txawm tau dav
heev, Noob neej tseem tau fwj cim los ntawm yawm saub, noob neej thiaj
qhib tau mem toj, kaw tau mem toj es nim no koj thiab kuv peb thiaj li
paub tias yuav xaiv mem toj zoo rau cov laus qaug, ib yam li Jesus
xuas tus pas nplawm hais kom tus dej hiav txwv phua kiag ua ob sab ua
ib txoj kev rau nws cov ntseeg hlas mus lawm sab ntug tim ub thiab
xwb.
> ua li cas lawv hov txawj muab tus nyuag menyuam ntawv tis npe hu ua
> DAB?
Koj nyeem tsis tau txaus thiab koj tsis nkag siab los yog koj hnov qab
lawm, Ntxwj Nyoog yug tau ib tug me nyuam tsis zoo li tib neeg, nws
zoo li lub qe, ob tog loj hauv nruab nrab nqia, nyob rau hauv lub qe
ntwd mas muaj ib cov me nyuam hais lus ntsho tsuam hauv tuaj, lawv sib
tham hauv lub qe tias lawv yog Dab lawv yuav los noj ntiaj teb tag ib
sim.
>........................Es tiam ntawv dab yeej noj neeg tiag tiag
lov?
Tsis muaj leej twg pom, tab sis yeej muaj tseeb lawm noob neej Hmoob
thiaj muab hais ua keeb kwm lug nruag cia, koj twb paub zoo lawm hais
tias Hmoob tseem tshuav cov caj ces noob noj neeg nev.
>.......................................................................Thiab
tiam ntaw
> neeg yeej mus mus los los tau saum ntuj thiab rov qab los tau hauv
> ntiajteb lov?
Hais txog koj nqe lus no mas yog kuv muab tso rau koj saib mas koj laj
tes nyeem tag thiab kuv twv sau rau lwm qhov post tias thaum ub lub
ntiaj teb no, tsim tau ntsiab tshiab ntawd muaj qee thaj cov hauv roob
mus tshum rau lub ntuj, noob neej tsiaj ib puas yam tsav xij mus xyuam
phaj ua plaub tag zog rau saum yawm saub es yawm saub thiaj muab lub
ntuj tshoom siab siab lawm. Yeej muaj tseeb noob neej yeej mus mus los
los saum ntuj thiab hauv av tau.
>........................Es neeg txawj txias mus ua tsiaj thiab? Ua li tus
> menyuam dab ntawv txawj multiply himself too? Kuv saib zoo li nkawv
> yug tau ib tug xwb los sav, ua cas tom qab no koj hov haistias muaj
> dab coob coob tuaj lawm?
Hais txog koj cov lus noog no yog yuav teb mas ntev heev, koj mus
nyeem li hauv qab no.....
Ntuj Tsim Teb Raug Noob Moob Tshwm Sim.
Thaum uas lub ntuj thiab daim av yuav txawm tau ua ib lub ntiaj teb
rau tib neeg nyob, yog muaj Yawm Saub thiab Puj Saub ob tug, nkawm
los
rau ntiaj teb thiab qaum ntuj, lub ntuj kheej lam li lub taub lub teb
plua lua li lub ncuav, ntuj yees yi li yuav poob, teb yees yis li yuav
zawj, mas yawm saub thiab puj saub ob tug thiaj li tau sib cog lus
tias, cia Puj Saub pheej lub ntiaj teb, Yawm Saub plia lub ntuj, Yawh
Saub muab duav nyiaj duav kub plia lub ntuj, Yawm Saub plia txog twg
ua ciav ntuj khov txog twg, Puj Saub hle Puj Saub nkawm nrhoob rov
txog twg av luaj txawm khov txog ntawd, Puj Saub pheej lub ntiaj teb
tau xya niaj, Yawm Saub plia lub ntuj tau xya xyoo, Yawm Saub thiab
Puj Saub nkawm yuav tso lub ntuj thiab lub ntiaj teb los sib khwb ua
ke, Puj Saub li ces yog av luaj xwb ces kuj phom Puj Saub thiaj li ua
tau ntau dua, Yawm Saub li yog muab nyiaj thiab kub puab, tawv heev
Yawm Saub ua tau tsawg dua Puj Saub li, ces txog ntua rau lub caij
nyoog ob tug teem tseg, puv xya niaj xya xyoo, nkawm thiaj yuav tso
lub ntuj thiab lub ntiaj teb los sib khwb ua ke, ua ntej nkawm yuav
tso lub ntuj thiab lub ntiaj teb los sis khwb mas Yawm Saub thiab Puj
Saub nkawm, txawm tsim tej noob tsiaj noob txhu, noob qoob noob loo,
noob xyoob noob ntoo,kab ntsaum tiav tas ua ntej, tsuas tshuav noob
neej noob sim cias tsim ua tom qab, thaum tsim tau ub no tiav tas lawm
lauj ces nkawd txawm tso lub ntuj thiab lub teb los sib khwb, muab
khwb nkaus na has ua ciav lub ntuj yau dua lub ntiaj teb, cia muab lub
ntiaj teb rub nyem los kom haum rau lub ntuj, nkawm thiaj muab lub
ntiaj teb rub nyem los kom dhos rau lub ntuj, thaum muab lub ntiaj teb
nyem kom los dhos haum rau lub ntuj ces ua rau lub ntiaj teb txoom tas
ua nre tiab ua roob ua hav, ces muaj qhov siab qhov qis tsis tiaj tus
zoo, muaj qee qhov ua roob siab siab mus tshum rau lub ntuj, thaum
Yawm Saub thiab Puj Saub nkawm muab lub ntuj tso los khwb nkaus rau
lub teb ua cas tsaus ntuj nti tsis pom kev qhov twg tuaj li, nkawm
muab tshem tawm kuj pom kev tuaj, rov qab muab khwb nkaus rau kuj
tsaus ntuj nti, nkawm thiaj tias yog zoo li no ces ntshe tsam noob
neej noob tsav, noob tsiag noob txhu, noob qoob noob loo, noob xyoob
noob ntoo nroj tsuag yuav tsis tau zoo lub neej ua, Yawm Saub thiab
Puj Saub nkawd thiaj hais tias wb twb tsim tau noob tsiaj noob txhu
noob neej ib puas tsav yam tas lawm ces cia wb muab hwj chim rau tej
tsiaj txhu seb leej twg yog tus uas yuav muaj hwj chim los ua kom tau
rau pom kev, ces nkawm tso hwj chim tas rau tej tsiaj txhu tib si,
nkawm thiaj mus hu lawv tas nrho los seb leej twg paub ua kom pom kev,
thaum nkawm hu lawv los tas nrho los nug hais tias nej leej twg paub
ua kom pom kev, ces qav kaws txawm teb tias tej zaum kuv paub ua kuas
pum kev, yog le koj sim pab ua sob, ces qav kaws txawm tshuab tau cuaj
lub npuas liab tis npe hu ua lub hnub ya mus kav nruab hnub, tshuab
tau cuaj lub npuas dawb tis npe hu ua lub hli ya mus kav hmo ntuj, lub
hnub yog ib tus puj tswj thiaj li hu ua nkauj hnub, lub hli yog ib tus
yawg tswj thiaj li hu ua nraug hli, thaum ua tsim tau lub hnub thiab
lub hli los kav ntiaj teb kom pom kev lawm ces, Puj Saub thiab Yawm
Saub ob tug tsim tau ib puas yam tsav tsiaj rau hauv qab ntuj no lawm
tsis muaj leej twg yuav los kav tau lub ntiaj
teb, cia wb mus khawb av luaj dub los puab ua wb tus tub, Yawm Saub
thiab Puj Saub nkawd txawm mus khawb av luaj dub los puab ua nkawd tus
tub, Yawm Saub ob tug rau siav rau pa rau hauv lub nrog cev ua ciav
txawm ciaj sia raws li siab xav tseg ntag, txawm nrog nkawd txuas taus
lus tham tau, Yawm Saub nkawd tias yog wb rov qab rau qaum ntuj lawm
mas yuav tsis muaj leej twg nrog wb tus tub nyob, cia wb mus khawb av
luaj dag los puab ua wb tus nyab, ces Yawm Saub nkawd txawm mus khawb
av luaj dag loss puab ua tau tus nyab.
Tus nyab mas puab tau zoo nkaus li Puj Saub, tus tub txawm puab tau
zoo nkaus li Yawm Saub ntag, thaum uas puab tau tus nyab los tshuab pa
rau siav rau los tsis ciaj sia li, ces Yawm Saub nkawd txawnm tos
thaum uas tus tub pw tsaug zog lawm, nkawd ntsia ntawm tus tub phab
tav txawm pom tus tub tus tav su zog su zog tuaj, Puj Saub nkawd txawm
muab tus tub li ib tus tav rho hlo mus dhos rau ntawm tus nyab, ho
muab tus nyab li ib tus tav rho hlo mus dho rau tus tub thiab, Yawm
Saub nkawd txawm rau siav rau pa rau tus nyab ua ciav muaj sia tuaj
lawm ntag, txawm tsheej ua ib tus nyab los rau nkawd tus tub lawm
tiag.
Thaum uas Puj Saub thiab Yawm Saub nkawd puab tau tug tub thiab tus
nyab los tsheej ua ib nkawm niam txiv uas yog tib neeg lawm tiag tiag,
ces Puj Saub nkawd txawm muab tus nyab tis npe hu ua Nkauj iab, muab
tus tub tis npe hu ua Nraug OO, ces Puj Saub thiab Yawm Saub nkawd
hais rau Nkauj iab thiab Nraug OO nkawd hais tias, wb yuav tsis nrog
neb nyob, wb ua niam ua txiv yuav foom koob moov rau neb, neb yuav kav
lub ntiaj teb qab ntuj no, kom neb tsim noob neej noob tsav kom huaj
vam puv ntiaj teb.
Wb yuav rov rau qaum ntuj, ces Yawm Saub nkawd thiaj rov qab rau qaum
ntuj lawm tau xya xyoo, Nkauj iab thiab Nraug OO nkawd ua neej nyob
ntiaj teb tau xya xyoo thiab, ces ob tug txawm xeeb muaj ib plab me
nyuam, yog ib nkawm sab xeeb thaum yug tau tus me nyuam los txawm qhwv
ib tog tsuj, nkawd thiaj li mus nug Yawm Saub hais tias, wb yug tau ib
tus tub qhwv ib tog tsuj yuav muab hu li cas, Yawm Saub thiaj li hais
tias yog qhwv ib tog tsuj no ces neb muab hu ua tub Tis Tsuj no mas,
ces Nkauj iab thiab Nraug OO nkawd thiaj li muab tis npe hu ua tub Tis
Tsuj, tsis ntev tom qab txawm yug tau kiag los ib tus tub qhwv ib tog
npuag thiab, nkawd ho rov qab mus nug Yawm Saub dua tias ua cas wb rov
yug tau ib tug tub qhwv ib tog npuag thiab, ces Yawm Saub thiab Puj
Saub nkawd thiaj li hais tias yog qhwv ib tog npuag no ces neb muab hu
ua tub Tis Npuag. Ob tug rov qab los txog tsev hauv ntiaj teb, nkawd
thiaj li muab hu ua tub Tis Npuag.
Nkauj iab thiab Nraug OO nkawd tau ua lub neej ntev loo tau ntau xyoo
tsis muaj me nyuam ntxiv li lawm lauj, ces nkawd txawm muaj ob tus
tub
nkaus xwb, ces tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag nkawd loj hlob los
tiav txiv neej qas yawg, ob tug thiaj los nug Nkauj iab thiab Nraug OO
nkawd tias niam thiab txiv neb paub lub ntuj dav los ntuj nqaim, Yawm
Saub yuav muab lim tiv rau wb, kom wb mus zaws nplooj ntoos los tshuab
ua tib neeg kom puv qab ntuj, Yawm Saub hais li no xyov yuav tshuab
npaum li cas neeg thiaj puv qab ntuj, neb puas paub tias ntuj dav los
ntuj nqaim, Nkauj iab thiab Nraug OO nkawd txawm teb tias wb tsis paub
li lauj ob tus me tub, tab sia thaum uas Yaum Saub yuav rov qab mus
mas Yawm Saub hais tias 9 lub hnub uas kav ruab hnub thiab 9 lub hli
uas kav hmo ntuj ntawd mas yog Qav kaws ua tus tshuab tau 9 lub npuag
liab txawm ya mus ua 9 lub hnub, 9 lub npuag dawb txawm ya tau mus ua
9 lub hli, tus yuav paub mas ntshe yog qav kaws xwb, neb mus nug niag
qav kaws, nws nyob nram qab zeb uas i no ces, ob tug txawm mus nug qav
kaws hais tias qav kaws koj puas paub ntuj dav los ntuj nqaim, qav
kaws txawm teb tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag nkawd hais tias aub!
ob tug me tub lauj yog neb xav paub has tas ntuj dav los ntuj nqaim
mas neb rov qab mus tsev, kuv los phem tes phem taw thiab mas cia 3
hnub tom ntej no kuv mus ntsuag los txog seb lub ntuj dav los lub ntuj
nqaim mas txhaj le yuav paub.
Ces tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag nkawd thiaj li rov los lawm tau 3
hnub, ob tug rov qab mus nug dua tias qav kaws koj mus ntsuam ntuj
ntsuam teb no lub ntuj dav los lub ntuj nqaim, qav kaws txawm hais
tias aub! tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag neb yuav kom kuv mus ntsuam
ntuj no uas, kuv mus ntsuam ntuj los ntuj nqaim li qho li xub zeb, teb
los nqaim li qho li xub ntoos, neej nyob los yuav tsis txaus nyob, dab
nyab los yuav tsis txaus txoos lauj, qav kaws hais li ntawd ces ob tug
txawm rov qab los nug Nkauj iab thiab Nraug OO ob tug hais tias, niam
thiab txiv yog li cas wb mus nug qav kaws hais tias cia 3 hnub hnub
qav kaws mus ntsuam ntuj los txog mass li yuav paub hais tias ntuj dav
los ntuj nqaim no, tau 3 hnub wb mus nug qav kaws, qav kaws hais tias
ntuj mas nqaim nti xub zeb, teb mas nqaim nti li xub ntoos no, wb tsaj
qhov muag ntsia ib ncua muag ntuj twb tsis kawg, qav kaws txawm hais
tau li ntawd los wb yuav tsis ntseeg, ua li yuav tso dab tsis mus
ntsuam ntuj dua, ces thiaj li hais tias cia niag dav dub ntawd mus
ntsuam ntuj seb dav muaj tis muaj tw ya tau.
Ces thiaj li mus hu dav dub los txog thiaj kom dav dub mus ntsuam
ntuj, dav dub ya peb tis peb ntxees ntuj caum nkauj hnub qab lawm li
ntsuj, peb tis peb ntxees teb caum nkauj hnub qab lawm lis loo los
caum tsis tau nkauj hnub qab li ntag. Dav dub rov qab los txog, dav
dub thiaj li hais tias tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag lauj! yog qav
kaws dag neb xwb, ntuj mas dav tis ua dav, ntuj dav li tom caj, teb
mas dav li tom ces, kuv ya peb tis peb ntxeees ntuj caum nkauj hnub
qab lawm li ntsuj, caum tsis tau nkauj hnub qab li, peb tis peb ntxees
teb caum tsis cuag nraug hli qab lawm lis zus yeej caum tsis tau li
ntag mas dav tas zog li, ob tug txawm nkaus hlo tug duav quav nyuj los
ntau qav kaws, tias ua cas yuav dag tas npaum li, ces nkawd txawm
ntaus peb npuag dluav quav nyuj rau qav kaws, ob tug txawm muab qav
kaws ntaus tuag.
Qav kaws tuag tas ces qav kaws thiaj nce rov qab mus txog saum Yawm
Saub, ces Yawm Saub thiaj li hais tias kav kaws ua cas tsim koj nyob
ntiaj teb koj tsis nyob koj los dab tsis, ces qav kaws txawm teb hais
tias aub! Yawm Saub hais rau koj paub, kuv los nov tsis vim li cas vim
yog hais tias koj yuav kom tub Tis Ntsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag ob tug
mus zaws nplooj ntoos los tshuab ua ib neeg nyob kom puv qab ntuj no
ces, ob tug tsis paub tias xyov ntuj dav los ntuj nqaim mas tsis paub
tsim noob neej, ces tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag ob tug txawm kom
kuv mus ntsuam ntuj no ces kuv los kuj phem tes phem taw thiab ces
ntsuam tsis tau li, ntuj mas nqaim ti xub zeb teb mas nqaim ti xub
ntoos. Ces nkawd siab tsis nqig ces nkawd ho tso dav dub mus ntsuam
ntuj dua, thaum uas dav dub mus ntsuam los txog ntua dav dub hais tias
ntuj mas dav tej tom caj, teb dav tej tom ces, yog kuv siab phem kuv
dag ob tug xwb no ces ob tug txawm ntaus kuv tuag es kuv thiaj li los,
kuv yuav los mus nyob saum uas cov hnub thiab cov hli uas kuv puab.
Ces qav kaws thiaj li los nyob hauv lub hnub thiab lub hli, lub hnub
thiab lub hli yog nkauj kub nraug cis kaws ua tus tsim tau. yawm Saub
thiaj li nug ntxiv hais tias ua li ob tug muab koj ntau tuag no koj
foom li cas rau neeg ntiaj teb, qav kaws teb Yawm Saub hais tias kuv
foom has tas thaum kuv qav kaws nyob mas ntiaj teb tib neeg yog nqaij
toog txhav hlau, ntiaj teb tib neeg siab tsis zoo muab kuv qav kaws
ntaus tuag lawm mas kom nqaij yog nqaij ciab dag txhav yog txhav
plhaub mag, tshav ntuj mas kom nqaij ciab dag yaj lis ntsuav, los nag
mas kom txhav plhaub mag lov nkig lis nkuav, ntiaj teb txawm dav dav
npaum li cas los yog nplooj tsis zeeg mas zoov yuav tsis kaj, leej tib
neeg tsis tuag mas ntiaj teb yuav ntim tsis tas, kom neeg txawj mob
txawj tuag leej hlob leej yau los kom lawv kuv qab los tib si, kuv
foom li no tas ces kuv txawm los lawm, ces Yawm Saub txawm teb hais
tias koj txawm foom hais li ntawd los yog nqaum ntuj tsis tso mob ces
ntiaj teb yuav tsis tuag.
Thaum uas qav kaws tuag tas lawm ces tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag
nkawd ntsia zoj lub ntiaj teb mas dav heev raws li lub siab xav ntag,
ces cia wb mus zaws nplooj ntoos los tshuab ua tib neeg, hnub ib ob
tug txawm mus zaws nplooj ntoos los tshuab, ib tug mus zaws tsob ntoo
kos zaws, ib tug mus zaws tsob ntoo rhawv zaws, muab sab teg xis tuav
muab sab lauj phem zawspov rov rau sab laug xwb xwb ua cas ua tau tib
cov tub xwb. Hnub ob ces ob tug thiaj li mus zaws tsob ntoo lug cov
nplooj, xuas sab tes lauj phem tuav xuas sab tes xis zaws pov rov rau
sab sis xwb xwb ua cas ua tau tib cov ntxhais xwb.
Ces tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag ob tug thiaj li hais rau cov tub
thiab cov ntxhais uas ob tug muab nplooj ntoos los tshuab ua tib neeg
ntawd hais tias nej yuav mus nrhiav txij nrhiav nkawm los ua lub neej
kom puv qab ntuj mas cov tub yuav tsum lug toj lug pes mus ntsib cov
ntxhais, yog leej twg tus tav lawm mas yuav tsum tau sib yuav ua txij
ua nkawm xwb xwb thiaj tas, nim no Hmoob li kev cai mas cov tub thiaj
li xij mus nrhiav cov ntxhais xwb, yog vim hais tias mus muab tsob
ntoo lug zaws cov nplooj los ua cov tub xwb ces nim no Hmoob thiaj
tseem nco ntsoov lug toj lug pes mus nrhiav cov ntxhais.
Li ntawd es Hmoob txoj kev xaiv mem toj, ces tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub
Tis Npuag ob tug thiaj li tau hais tseg rau cov tub thiab cov ntxhais
uas nkawd tau tsim los ua tib neeg ntawd hais tias nej nyob hauv lub
ntiaj teb no yog muaj ib tus tib neeg laus ploj qaug los sis puav 120
xyoo ces nej yuav mus xaiv looj mem mas toj roob hauv pes txawm yuav
luag li cas los xij, nej nco ntsoov sab tub yog sab laug lauj phem,
sab ntxhais mas yog sab xis, yog li no tej laus txawm tsis paub ntawv
los thiaj li piav hais qhia ib txheej dhau ib txheej ib tis dhau ib
tis los txog rau niaj hnub nim no. Zoo li ntawd mas muaj ib cim peb
caug twg los tej tub thiaj li xij ua ib lub zam mus nrhiav cov ntxhais
xwb ntag, tsis muaj txoj kev uas cov ntxhais yuav tuaj mus nrhiav cov
tub ib zaug li. Li uas tau hais los saum no mas yog Hmoob li noob neej
chiv keeb thaum ua ntuj tsim teb xeeb, ntuj tsim tau teb txawm muaj
keeb tiv txooj cag lub hauv paus ua neej nyob rau ntiaj teb.
Noob Neej Hmoob Huaj Vam, thaum uas noob neej noob tsav huaj vam coob
coob puv qab ntuj lawm ces tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag nkawd hais
tias lub qab ntuj no kub hwv, vim yog thaum nruab hnub muaj 9 lub hnub
tawm tuaj kav nruab hnub lawm 9 hnub ke, Hmo ntuj los kuj muaj 9 lub
hli tuaj lawm 9 hmo los kav hmo ntuj ua ke thiab, mas ua rau tej qoob
loo nroj tsuag tuag tas, av luaj mas tawg pleb pluav yoj txiv nyuj
txiv phaws twm poob. Ntawm cov hnub thiab cov hli ntawd los thaum qav
kaws tau tuag tas, qav kaws tseem nce mus nyob hauv cov hnub thiab cov
hli lawm thiab, cia wb ua ib leeg ib rab hneev nti, wb nce daum ntawm
tsob ntoo suab looj swm mus zov ze ze ntawm rooj ntug tua kom cov Hnub
thiab cov hli ntawd poob kom tas tso, tsuas tseg ib lub hnub los kav
nruab hnub, tseg ib lub hli los kav hmo ntuj xwb.
Ces nkawd thiaj mus txua hneev nti tau ib leeg ib rab, ces ob tug
txawm nce daum tsob ntoo Suab Looj Swm mus zov ntawm rooj ntug tua
nkauj hnub thiab nraug hli nkawd. Nruab hnub ob tug zov tua nkauj hnub
yim hnub tua tau 8 lub poob tas lawm, hmo ntuj zov tua tau yim hmo,
tua poob lawm 8 lub hli thiab. Thaum uas ob tug tua 8 lub hnub thiab 8
lub hli poob tas lawm, ces nkauj hnub tshuav ib lub los kav nruab hnub
lawm xwb, nraug hli los tshuav ib lub los kav hmo ntuj lawm xwb thiab.
Ces nkauj hnub ntshai ntshai nkauj hnub mus nkauj hnub tsis tawm tuaj
li lawm, nraug hli siab tawv nraug hli ntshai tsis heev nraug hli mus
nraug rov tuaj, nraug hli maj mam tawm zuj zus ib hmos tawm me ntsis
tuaj, nraug hli tawm tawm 15 hmos thiaj li tawm tas, thaum nraug hli
nqig rov qab los nraug hli maj mam nqig ib hmos zuj zus thiab, nraug
hli nqig rov 15 hmos thiaj li nqig tas thiab.
Ces tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag nkawd thiaj li hais tseg rau cov
tub thiab cov ntxhais uas nkawd zaws nplooj ntoos los tshuav ua tib
neeg hais tias, nej ntsia rau saum lub hli nej pom lub hli ib hmos loj
zuj zus tuaj ces nej hu ua hli xiab, thaum twg nej ho ntsia pom lub
hli ib hmo yau zuj zus ces nej hu ua lub hli nqig, hos yog thaum nej
pom lub hli kheej kheej loj sib hluag es yog lub hli nra, ces nim no
Hmoob thiaj li huv lub hli raws li nkawd qhia ua hli xiab, hli
nqig,hli nra.
Ces nkauj Hnub ntshai nkauj hnub mus nkauj hnub tsis tawm tuaj li lawm
lauj! lub ntiaj teb mas ntuj tsaus nti cuag li qhov txos tsis pom kev
ua noj ua haus li lawm lauj, ces tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag
nkawd thiaj li mus nug tas nrho tej tsiaj txhu tib si tias seb leej
twg paub hu nkauj hnub kom nkauj hnub tawm tuaj, ces nkawd txawm mus
nug tej tsiaj ib tug dhau ib tug, nug txog tus twg los hais tias tsis
paub tus yuav paub ces ntshe yog qaib xwb, nug tus twg los hais li ces
nkawd thiaj mus nug qaib tias, qaib koj puas paub hu nkauj hnub kom
nkauj hnub rov tuaj, qaib teb tias ov thaum neb tsis tau muab nkauj
hnub lawv tua mas thaum yuav kaj ntug txoj sab ntuj deeg peb teg kuv
lub siab mas tos nco xwb ces kuv twb qua hu nkauj hnub lawm, mas deeg
peb zaug ces kuv qua hu nkauj hnub peb zaug ces ntuj txawm kajntug
ntag, ob tug txawm hais tias yog li no koj txawm pab hu seb nkauj hnub
puas tawm tuaj, ua li puas tseem deeg koj lub siab thiab, ces qaib teb
hais tias tseem deeg deeg me me thiab tab sis kuv qua hu tsis tuaj li
lawm nev, nkawd txawm tias yog li no yuav ua li cas es koj thiaj li
yuav hu tau nkauj hnub rov tawm tuaj, qaib txawm teb tias aub yuav kom
kuv hu tau nkauj hnub tawm tuaj mas neb txua tau ib lub zuag kub rau
kuv ntoo, mas thaum twg kuv lub zuag kub liab mas kuv li hu mas nkauj
hnub thiaj li yuav rov tawm tuaj laus. ces nkawd thiaj li mus txua tau
ib lub zuag kub rau qaib ntoo, qaib tsis txawj ntoo ces qaib muab tus
hniav zuag tsa rao saum, ntoo lub qwb tuaj hauv, nkawd tos tos qaib
lub zuag kub liab ces qaib thiaj li hu ces nkauj hnub thiaj rov tawm
tuaj ziab lub ntiaj teb noob neej noob sim txhua.
Ces thaum uas qaib hu tau nkauj hnub rov tuaj li qub lawm ces ces qaib
hais tias yog tias sab ntuj deeg es kuv qua peb tsig ntuj kaj ces yog
kuv hu nkauj hnub, hos yog ib tag hmo ntuj deeg es to nco kuv qua ces
yog ntiaj teb yuav muaj xwm, mas thaum nruab hnub sawv ntxov los kuv
yuav hu, thaum nkauj hnub yuav mus, hnub qaij ntawd los kuv yuav xa
nkauj hnub mus nkauj hnub ho rov tuaj, hais li ntawd.
Thaum ua nkauj hnub rov tuaj txhua txhua hnub li qub lawm lauj, ces
tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npaug nkawd cov tib neeg nplooj ntoos ntawd
thiaj tau zoo lub neej ua nyob ntiaj teb, ntev mus ces neeg huaj vam
coob tuaj puv qab ntuj ces txawm pib ua neeg phem lauj, koj deev kuv
poj, kuv deev koj poj, koj tua kuv kuv tua koj ua phem ua qias, ces
yawm saub tsis nyiam ces yawm saub txawm nqig tuaj saib na has aub ua
ciav cov neeg nplooj ntoos no tsis zoo, Yawm Saub txawm mus hais rau
Lej Lwg Thiab Rhwv Mis nkawd ob tug me nyuam ntsuag ntawd tias neb mus
hais rau neeg qab ntuj no tias xya niaj xya xyoo mas dej dag yuav nyab
qab ntuj kom neeg ntiaj teb ceev faj rau lub caij uas puv xya niaj xya
xyoo ntawd, no ces nkawd txawm mus hais rau tib neeg thoob qab ntuj,
nkawd txawm mus hais li Yawm Saub hais ces cov neeg nplooj ntoos txawm
tsis ntseeg nkawd, txawm cem nkawd tias neb ob nyuag ntsuag chab
ntsuag twv no, neb nim yuav paub tus dab tsis naj, neb twb tsis paub
tias ntuj twb qhuav tau xya niaj teb twb qhuav tau xya xyoo, pov noob
qoob twb tsis nrhau cag, pov noob loo twb tsis nrhau kaus lawm es nim
yuav hais tias dej dag yuav nyab qab ntiaj teb no, neb dag xwb mas
lawv hais li ntawd rau nkawd, ces nkawd rov los txog tsev ces nkawd
thiaj li rau siab ntso txua lub Nruas Daj tau xya niaj xya xyoo, nkawd
txuas tau lub Nruas Daj loj txaus nkaus nkawd nyob thiab pw hauv lub
Nruas Daj. Ces puv yeeg xya niaj xya xyoo, aub ua ciav Yawm Saub ts
nag nqig los nag xauv npo tau xya niaj xya xyoo tsis tu li lauj, ces
dej dag nyab ntiaj teb tiag tiag li lauj, nkawd ob nug muas thiaj mus
nyob rau hauv lub Nruas Daj, lub Nruas Daj thiaj ntab yuj yees mus rau
saum ntuj thiaj mus tsoo ntawm nkiav npoo ntuj rov ntuj ntoog, ces
Yawm Saub thiaj tawm tuaj xauj, aub ua ciav pom lub Nruas ntab mus
tsoo rau ub tsoo rau no nrov ntuj ntwg, Yawm Saub txawm mus npo tau
lub Nruas los, Lej Lwg nkawd thiaj hais rau Yawm Saub tias aub dej dag
nyab qab ntuj mas neej noob tuag tu noob, noob nej mas tuag tu tsav
lawm lauj, ces Yawm Saub hais tias awb neeg ntiaj teb siab phem tuag
tas ces cia kuv mam kom yawm Xob thiab Xob Yawm nkawd muab hmuv tooj
nkaug li nkuav kom dej dag ntwg li tshuav, muab hmuv hlau nkaug li
nkaws es kom dej dag ntwg lis ntsaws, ces Yawm Saub thiaj li hais Xob
yawm muab hmuv tooj teg tej kis zeb ces dej dag nqig lawm zaj laug teb
lawm, teg rau tej kis hav ces dej dag nqig lawm zaj laug nrag lawm,
ces aub dej nqig tas ces Yawm Saub tias neb rov mus lawm ntiaj teb
neeb mus ua vaj ua tsev ua nkuaj tsiag nkuaj txhu kom txhua nrho li
thaum neb nyob ntiaj teb es neb muaj, es kuv yuav muab tej tsiaj txhu
qoob loo txhij txhua rov rau neb nqa mus tsim lub neej rau ntiaj teb,
no ces nkawm thiaj los rau ntiaj teb los tsim tau vaj tsev, nkuaj
tsiaj nkuaj txhu txhab qoob loo ib puas tsav yam tiav tas ces neb rov
tuaj kuv li mam muab cov tsiaj rau neb coj qov mus hais li no ces,
ntawm thawj tom neeg mas los xaus kiag rau thaum dej dag nyab no lawm,
thawj tom neeg uas tub Tis Tsuj thiab tub Tis Npuag nkawb zaws nplooj
ntoos los tshuab ua neeg, ces txij li tom neeg uas Lej Lwg thiab Rhwv
Mis nkawd tsim los ces yog peb tom neej nim no ntag.
Ces nkawd los ua tau vaj tses nkuaj tsiag nkuj txhu tas, txhab qoob
loo tiav tas, ces nkawd txawm rov qab mus cuag Yawm Saub, Yawm Saub
txawb muab ib lub nyuag yau zog rau tus muam Rhwv Mis nqa, muab lub
loj zog rau tus nus Leg Lwg nqa, neb nqa mus os nyhav pis tsawg los
neb ua tiag puab ua tiag peem, ua tiag nqa ua tiag ntxeem, mus txog
tsev mas neb mam qhib, tsis txhob lam qhib tom tej kev ces kuv pab
tsis tau neb lawm laiv, nkawd nqa los ua cas es lub nyuag txws xwb es
yuav nyhav tas npaum nqa tsis taus li, Rhwv Mis yog tus muam ces nyhav
pes tsawg los ua siab ntev ua tiag nqa los txog tsev nws mam qhib.
Qhib ces ua ciav yog tej tsiaj txhu, nyuj twm, qaib npua, dev os,
nees, txhua yam tsiaj nyeg ces nyias nkag nyias nkuaj lawm, cov ntawd
txawm seej, ces txog tom kev xwb ces Lej Lwg uas yog tus nus siab luv
me ntsis ces txawm hais tias nyhav tas npaum no nqa tsis taus lawm,
yog dab tsis nyob hauv sim muab qhib saibseb, Lej Lwg muab qhib kiag
ces haub cov tsiaj tawm khiav tas nrho lawm lauj tshuav tib tus nyuag
tshig tawm ua qab ces Lej Lwg thiaj tsawv nkaus tus ntawd txim kub,
ces tus ntawd tseem nti nti ua kub ntswj tas los tsis tso li ntag, coj
los tso nrog Rhwv Mis cov nyob ua ke los tseem tsis nyob li thiab, ua
tus me xu duj das mus pw rau tim tej ntug zos thiab xwb, es nim no
thiaj li muaj ib cov tsiaj qus, cov tsiaj qus ntawd thiaj li muaj
tshaj ntau rua peb cov tsiaj nyeg, yog li no muaj qhov nov mas thiaj
muaj ib cov tsiaj qus ib cov tsiaj nyeg, ces cov tsiaj qus ces yog Lej
Lwg cov, cov tsiaj nyeg mas thiaj yog Rhwv Mis li, ces Lej Lwg thiaj
mus hais Yawm Saub ces Yawm Saub tias kuv pab tsis tau lawm ov, nim no
kuv twb kom tsis txhob qhib, cov uas nim no koj ua dim ntawd mas nws
ntshai ntshai koj li lawm ov, yog nws pom lwm yam tsiaj mas tsis ua
cas, yog pom cov uas hauv pliaj thais theem zoo li koj thag mas pom
tsis tau li lauj, yog koj yuav noj mas koj yuav tau ua hneev mus tua
xwb mas thiaj tau, yog tsis li ntawd mas koj yeej ntes tsis tau los
tua noj li ov, ces Lej Lwg cov tsiaj ces yuav noj thaum twg ces thiaj
coj Hneev mus tua nkaus xwb, Rhwv Mis cov mas seej, tab sis yog yuav
tua tus twg noj mas yuav tau hais Rhwv Mis kam mas li tua tau, no mas
nim no tej tsiaj nyeg leej twg txawm tus tau ib pab coob coob los, yog
yuav muab tua noj mas yuav tau hais nug tus poj niam kam mas li tua
tau, mas yog li no.
Ces aub Lej Lwg ntim txuj mus nrhiav nkauj rau qaum ntuj ov tau xya
niaj los tsis muaj nkauj, Rhwv Mis ntim ci mus nrhiav nraug rau qab
ntug tau xya xyoo tsis muaj nraug, nkawd thiaj rov mus nug Yawm Saub
hais tais Yawm Saub aub noob neej tuag tu noob, neej noob tuag tu tsav
lawm lauj, ntim txuj mus nrhiav nkauj rau qaum ntuj tau xya niaj tsis
muaj nkauj, Rhwv Mis ntim ci mus nrhiav nraug rau qab ntuj tau xya
xyoo tsis muaj nraug li yuav ua cas, Yawm Saub hais tias noob neej
tuag tas lawm ces, Lej Lwg koj mus puag zeb txiv es Rhwv Mis mus nqa
zeb niam, neb ib leeg mus ib sab toj es dov zeb txiv thiab zeb niam
hos rau nram tiaj hos zeb txiv khwb zeb niam ua ib pawg ces neb mus
nriav neb ntawv cej ntshoob txis neb ua ib nkawg, zeb txiv khwb zeb
niam ua ib txig ces neb nrhiav neb ntawv ncig kos es txis muab neb ua
ib yig, es noob neej thiaj li yuav puv qab ntuj, nkawm txawm nqa txhib
zeb li hais ib leeg mus ib sab toj dov los ces, tus muam dhia tsis
taus, tus nus dhia taus ces tus dhia ua ntej mus txog, tus nus txawm
muab ob txhib zeb coj los tso khwb ua ib txig, ces tus muam dhia lawv
qab los txog ntsia ua ciav khwb ua ib txig tiag lauj, ces nkawm los
nrhiav ntawv cej tshoob ntawv ncig kos no, uab thaum wb yog tub ntsoj
ntxhais ntsuag es ntawv cej tshoob ntawv ncig kos wb tsis nqa lauj,
nkawm mus nug Yawm Saub, Yawm Saub tias aub neb ntawv cej tshoob mas
ntshe dej dag ntsoob nqig rau zaj laug teb lawm, neb mus hais neb cov
tsiaj seb le twg yauv mus nqa tau.
NKawm thiaj li los hais nkawd cov tsiaj ces twm txawm hais tias twm
mus tau dej ces cia twm mus nqa, nyuaj los nyuj hais tias nyuj zog loj
cia nyuj mus nrog twm mus nqa, ces nyuj thiab twm thiaj nqis hauv pas
dej mus txog zaj laug teb, ua ciav ntawv cej ntsoob ntawv ncig kos
nyob hauv zaj laug teb tiag, ces zaj laug muab tau ntawv cej ntsoov
ntawv ncig kos rau nkawd nqa los tiag lauj, thaum nkawd los twm mus
taus dej twm los hauv qab thu los twm ntshai tsam ntub dej twm muab
npuav hauv qhov ncauj twm txawm muab nqos lawm, nyuj los txog ntawm
rooj tsuas dej loj nyuj ntshai nyuj muab npuav ntawm qhov ncauj, nyuj
ncav ncav nyuj muab nqos lawm thiab, thaum nkawd los tshwm saum nruab
nqhuab no ces, nyuj nug twm tias koj puas nqa tau twm tias twm muab
nqos lawm, twm hos nug nyuj los nyuj hais tias nyuj los dej loj nyuj
ntshai nyuj ncav ncav nyuj muab nqos lawm.
Thaum nyuj thiab twm los txog ces Lej Lwg thiab Rhwv Mis nkawd nug
tias neb mus nqa pus tau ntawv cej tshoob ntawv ncig kos, ces nyuj
thiab twm hais tias aub tau wb los wb ntshai ntub dej hwv wb muab nqos
lawm, nkawd thiaj li mus hais Yawm Saub tias Yawm Saub lauj, wb kom
nyuj thiab twm mus nqa mas nyuj thiab twm ntshai ntub dej nkawd muab
nqos rau hauv plab lawm, ces Yawm Saub thiaj hu nyuj thiab twm mus
hais tias neb muab nqos lawm mas neb ntuav ov, neb ntuav kom tau nkawd
ntawv cej tshoob, ces nyuj thiab twm ntuav ntuav tsis tau tawm los li
ces Yawm Saub thiaj tias yog neb ntuav tsis tau mas neb txawm noj tau
ib plab los neb yuav tau ntuav tas mus lub neej seb neb puas ntuav tau
nkawd ntawv cej tshoob los. Ces nim no nyuj thiab twm noj tau ib plab
los thiaj ntuav rov los seb puas tau ntuav los los tsis tau li ces
thiaj ntuav tas zog li, Yawm Saub yeej foom tseg li ntawd tseg es nim
no nyuj thiab twm thiaj zog zaub, ces ntawv cej tshoob tsis tau lauj,
ces neb rov mus ntim txuj ntim cis es neb mus nug zaj laug saib tshuav
dab tsis rau neb coj los ua tshoob.
Ntim txuj ntim ci no mas yog ua zam, nkawd hais tias wb yuav ua cas
mus lawm zaj laug teb, Yawm Saub hais tias tsis ntshai los mas neb mus
txog tom rooj tsuas xwb ces neb hu ces luag cim civ yuav tawm tuaj.
Ces nkawd los ntim txuj ntim ci ces aub nkawd txawm mus txog tom rooj
tsuas ces hu zaj laug, aub zaj laug lauj nyuj thiab twm tuaj nqa ntawv
cej tshoob ntawv ncig kos, nyuj thiab twm muab noj poob rau hauv nkawd
plab lawm, tshuav dab tsis rau wb coj mus ua tshoob, koj tuaj qhia wb
lauj, ces zaj laug tawm plaws tuaj tus hwj txwv plaub hau dawb paug
tuaj, zaj laug hais tias aub yog li ntawd no ces cias kuv mam mus muab
txoj siv ceeb rau neb ua puav pheej, zaj laug mus nqa hlo txoj siv
ceeb thiab lub kaus dub tuaj, zaj laug tias kuv muab txoj siv ceeb rau
neb coj mus ua puav pheej, thiab muab lub kaus dub kaus lis yeev no
rau neb roos neb rov qab es lej laug qas neeg thiaj tsis tav neb txoj
hauv kab, roos neb rov mus tsev es tsog lej tsog laus thiaj tsis tav
neb txoj hauv kev, es noob neej thiaj yuav puav qab ntuj, es no kuv
muab zaj qeej no rau neb coj mus tshuab ua tshoob, kuv mam qhia zaj
qeeg rau neb muab tshuab kom tau ua zaj qeej tshoob, kuv mam qhia zaj
tshoob rau neb coj mus ua tshoob, zaj laug hais li no ces, zaj laug
thiaj qhia nkawd txog zaj qeej tshoob, thiab cov zaj tshoob txhua yam
rau nkawd coj los ua tshoob, ces nim no Hmoob thiaj nqa lub kaus thiab
txoj siv ceeb no los ua puav pheej no mas yog Lej Lwg thiab Rhwv Mis
nkawd tsim rau peb Mhoob nqa los txog hnub no, mas zaj qeeg thiab zaj
tshoob no mas yog zaj qhia, mas thiaj muab hu ua zaj tshoob thiab zaj
qeeg no puag thaum ntxov ub los, ces nkawd tau cov zaj no los tis
tshoob tis kos tas lawm lauj, ces thiaj muab txoj siv ceeb los ua puav
pheej, es thaum ub mas tsuav yog pov ib nyuag yam khoom rau tus
ntxhais ntawd, tsuav yog tus ntxhais txais yam khoom ntawd ua puav
pheej lawm ces, mus hais ces nug tus ntxhais yog tau txais luag khoom
lawm ces yuav tau yuav xwb ntag, ces tsis muaj txoj cai los hais, qhov
khoom ntawd txawm yog txoj cai lawm ntag, tsis sib nyiam tiag tiag
tsis txhob lam txais luag khoom, yuav dia tsis dim, ces Hmoob thiaj
coj li ntawd los.
Ces nkawd los txis tshoob txis kos tas ces, Yawm Saub txawm hu nkawd
rov qab mus nrog Yawm Saub tham, nkawd mus txog ces Yawm Saub hais rau
Rhwv Mis tias Rhwv Mis hais tias neb yog nus muag txis tshoob txis kos
tas ua txij ua nkawm lawm, kom koj muab koj tus txiv tua no koj pua
tua, Rhwv Mis tias uv tua xwb ntag los mas txaj muag tas npaum yog
niag nus muag xwb es, ces Yawm Saub tias tau lawm lauv, Yawm Saub ho
mus hu Lej lwg los tias Lej Lwg neb txis tshoob txis kos tas lawm kom
koj muab koj tus poj niam tua pov tseg no koj puas kam, Lej Lwg tias
haub tsis kam li lauj, kuv ntim txuj mus nrhiav nkauj rau qaum ntuj
tau xya niaj twb tsis muaj nkauj es, yog yus poj niam es yus hlub tas
npaum es yuav tua ab tsis, tsis tua ov, ces Yawm Saub thiaj hu Rhwv
Mis los tias Rhwv Mis koj siab phem ov, yog kom koj tua koj tus txiv
ces koj tua ntag, kuv nug koj tus txiv tias nws puas tua koj, nws tias
nws hlub koj tag zog li, yog li no mas neb nqis rov mus ua neej lawm
ntiaj teb, Rhwv Mis koj mas yuav cia tuaj theem qis ov, koj tus txiv
tuaj theem siab, es neb lub neej thiaj zoo ov, mas kuv yuav foom kom
neb tsim noob neej huaj vam kom puv qab ntuj, tab sis thaum koj yuav
xeeb me nyuam mas koj siab tsis zoo ov yuav tso dej liab ntxuav koj
lub cev tag mas koj thiaj li xeeb tub
thaum koj yuav tau koj tus me nyuam mas koj yuav mob qhuav siab qhawv
npaum li uas nim no koj tus txiv mob siab rau koj ntag ov hais li no
tseg, li no tej neeg thiaj coj li ntawd los lawm, leej twg yog tias ua
ib nkawm niam txiv, tus niam ua neej tsis tshua saib taus tus txiv,
mas ob niam txiv ntawd ua neej yeej tuaj qab tsag, tus niam hwm hawm
tus txiv me ntsis ob leeg sib pab ces yim ntawd thiaj li ua neej zoo,
yog li no thaum Yawm Saub yeej foom tseg lawm.
Ces nkawd los ces Rhwv Mis txawm xeeb ib plab me nyuam, thaum tau los
ua ciav tib lub kheej li lub taub twg, ces nkawd txawm kus nug yawm
saub tias, Yawm Saub ua cas wb tau ib tus nyuam mas tsis zoo me nyuam,
zoo li lub taub twg kheej kheej xwb, kov mas kuj ciaj sia thiab tab
sis tsis muaj ntsej tsis muaj ntswg, ces Yawm Saub txawm tias awb
ntawd yog neb yuav pom neeg puv qab ntuj, kuv mam qhia rau neb mus ua,
sab no yog hnub tuaj, sab no yog hnub poob, sab pem yog tom peg, sab
nram yog tom taug, neb rov mus txog tsev neb muab hlais ua 4 daig loj
pov rau 4 ceg kaum ntuj mas tshuav cov neb muab hlais tas huv tib sis
ces neb pov thoob plaws rau hnub tuaj, hnub poob, tom peg, tom taug
tib sis ces neb mus pw ib hmos tas kig ces neb li mus xyuas, neb li
muab lawv tis npe xwb los mas, ces nkawd rov los muab hlais raws nraim
li Yawm Saub hais thiab muab pov raws nraim li ntawd tas, ces nkawd
txawm pw ib hmos tas kig nkawm mus xyuas na has ua ciav muaj neeg mas
rauv taws ncho pa auv niab, tsev npog luas puv nkaus tom peg tom taug,
hnub tuaj hnub poob, nkawd txawm muab lawv tis npe tas, ib tus hu ua
Hawj, ib tus hu ua Thoj, hu ua Lauj, hu ua Lis, hu Tsab, hua ua Vaj,
hu ua Xyooj, hu ua Yaj, hu ua Vwj, hu ua Haam, hu ua Khaab, ces nkawm
txawm rov qab mus nug Yawm Saub dua tias, aub wb muab hlais li koj
hais muab pov raws nraim li koj hais ces, tas kig txawm pom neeg nyob
npog luas puv nkaus li lawm tiag, no ces Yawm Saub txawm hais tias yog
li mas neb mus muab lawv ua xeem, thiaj zoo tis tshoob tis kos, vim
thaum neb yog nug muag es thiaj tau me nyuam zoo li ntawd.
Ces nkawd txawm rov los muab cov neeg ntawd tis ua xeem, nkawd los
txog nkawd txawm tias aub Yawm Saub hais li tab sis tsis paub muab tis
ua xeem li es yuav ua cas nes, ces nkawd thiaj tias yog tsis paub tis
ces cia wb muab hu raws li lub npe xwb, ces nkawd txawm muab tus hu ua
Lis ua xeem Lis, tus hu ua Vaj ua Xeem Vaj, tus hu ua Hawj ua xeem
Hawj, tus hu ua Tsab ua xeem Tsab, tus hu ua Yaj ua xeem Yaj, li ntawd
mus txhua nrho cov npe tib si, nkawd ho rov mus hais rau Yawm Saub
tias, koj yuav kom wb muab tis npe hu kom muaj xeem no mas wb muab tis
cov xeem tiav tas lawm, Yawm Saub tias yog li ces zoo los mas, tab sis
neb mus hais rau lawv es txij no mus mas kom xeem no yuav xeem tom xwb
es thiaj paub zeem neej zeem tsav, tib lub xeem mas tsis pub sib yuav,
es thiaj tsis tau me nyuam zoo li neb tus me nyuam ntawd, ces nkawd
thiaj qov los hais rau lawv tias nej mas nyias yuav nyias xeem tsis
tau, cia xeen nov yuav xeem tom xwb, Yawm Saub hais li ntawd, no ces
peb cov Hmoob txawm yuav raws nraim li Yawm Saub qhia los txog rau
niaj hnub nim no, es thiaj caiv yus lub xeem tsis sib yuav. ces
covneeg txawm huaj vam coob coob tuaj lauj ces cov tib neeg rov ua
siab phem li tiam uas dej dag nyab thiab lauj, ces nkawd txawm ntshai
ces nkawd thiaj nce rov mus nug Yawm Saub tias aub cov neeg rov qab ua
siab phem dua lawm es yuav ua cas, tsam dej dag rov nyab qab ntuj dua
koj yuav hais li cas, Yawm Saub txawm hais rau nkawd tias tsis ntshai
los mas neb rov mus tsev, dej dag yuav tsis nyab qab ntuj lawm, kuv
twb kom xob yawm muab hmuv tooj hmuv hlau nkaug ntiaj teb to ua qhov
tas lawm, dej dag yuav tsis nyab qab ntuj lawm, mas ntiaj teb tsuas
tso hluav taws kub lawm xwb hais li no tseg, ces nkawd thiaj rov los
ua neej rau ntiaj teb, es nim no peb pom tej lub qhov av to cub lug
rau hauv ub lawm ces Hmoob thiaj hu ua qhov ntuj, vim thaum yog ntuj
tua ua qhov tas. Qhov ua ua dab tsis txaum, thiab raug lwm tus liam
plaub mas Hmoob ib txwm yeej hais tias muaj ntuj nyob saum no mas vim
yog Yawm Saub yog tus plia puab lub ntuj, es sawv daws ua dab tsi,
tsis ncaj los thiaj hais tias muaj ntuj nyob saum. dhau ntawd los ces
noob neej txawm ncau mus ua ntau yam neeg puv qab ntuj los rau niaj
hnub no. tseem tshuav qee yam txua thiab tab sis tso tseg xaus li no
xwb. YTK
lha
YTK,
Koj zaj dabneeg no mas ntev kawg li kuv tseem pheej nyeem tsis tau tag
li. Ua tsaug uas koj tseem siv sijhawm los teb kuv cov lus nug. Qhov
tshwjxeeb tshaj yog koj kuj tsis chim rau kuv cov lus nug koj thiab.
Txhais tau tias zoo kawg li lawm. Cia kuv rau rau siab nyeem kom tag
tso kuv li mam nug koj dua. Qhov teebmeem mas yog cov niag ntawv
Hmoob no nyeem tsis tau ceev li.
lha
Hmong-Lao
PY Iha,
Coob tus twb teb koj lawm, tabsis tshuav lawv tsis tau teb hais tias
Sivyis tsis yog tshuav dabneeg xwb. Nyaj koj yuav tau hnov txog lossis
pom kev ua neeb ua yaig lawm yuam. Cov txivneeb/niamneeb txhua tus hu
lawv tus kheej ua Sivyis. Qhov uas lawv hu lawv tus kheej ua Sivyis
possible yog li phooywg YTK thiab Yaweh lawv piav, hais tias cov txiv/
niam neeb tus great great.... grant master rau fab ua neeb ua yaig yog
Sivyis. Yog li ntawd lo lus Sivyis no thiaj li rais lo ua ib lo lus
uas txhais tau hais tias "tus txiv/niam neeb".
Qhov kuv hais no phoojywg YTK kiag los nws yeej tsis tshua agree,
tabsis qhov no yog qhov fact. Kuv yeej tsis tau hnov dua cov txiv neeb
refer nws tus kheej rau nws lub npe losis rau lo lus "kuv", lawv yeej
always refer lawv tus kheej ua "sivyis". Qhov kuv hais los no phoojywg
YTK rated as "ooo try". Meaning, kuv hais lus li menyuam yau. Tabsis
nws yog fact, tsis yog mythical story los yog legend hais tias txhua
txhua tus txiv neeb hu nws tus kheej ua "Sivyis".
HL
Yaj Tshaj Koob
PY Hmoob_lao,
Koj hais yeej raug lawm thiab, Hmoob ua neeb Hmoob yuav tsum tuav Siv
Yis lub npe rau qhov Siv Ys muaj fwj chim fwj huaj loj heev los ntawm
Yawm Saub, mas leej twg ua neeb los yuav tsum tuav Siv Yis lub npe kom
dab ntshai, Dab yeej ib txwm ntshai Tooj Nchai Siv Yis, ib yam li peb
noj mov peb ua Vajtswv tsaug, los lus kawg xaus peb xaus rau Tswv
Yesxus amen no, rau qhov Yesxus yog tug uas muaj fwj chim thiab paub
ntuj lus txawj kho mob rau lub caij Yesxus tseem nyob, ces txhua tus
thiaj hais lus qhov xaus ces xaus rau Jesus.
YTK
Tony
Koj cov lugntsuag nuav kuj yog dluav moog rua tej kws tam laug nyob
rua huv nplog teb hau has rua puab tej mivnyuas noog. Kuv yeej nov
feem ntau lawm hab.
Qaav kaws, laj lwg rhwv mim ces kuv nyav nyuas tuaj nov rua tim meskas
teb hab nyeem koj cov lugntsuag nuav.
Saib moog rua qhov luj, moob lubneej, kev xaav, hab kevntseeg yeej
moog yuav thooj le cov tuabneeg Israel hab. Ntau yaam kuj txawv.
Txawmyog le ntawd los, feem ntau ntawm tej lugntsuag nuav (vim peb tsi
muaj ntawv sau tseg) peb txhaj le muav pev rua Suav hab cov tuabneeg
Israel. Suav le ces ntseeg taag puastsaavyaam le tej lugntsuag koj
has nuav. Israel le ces coj koj noob neej rovqaab moog cob rua
Vaajtswv (tug tsim taag puastsaavyaam).
Moob tej lugntsuag kuj yog ib hom twj siv lub cobqha mivnyuas txuj lub
neej, paub txug tej xwmtxheej kws muaj nyob puagncig hab paub ntshai
yaam lub qhovmuag tsi pum. Muab las rua txheejtxhab nuav ces, Moob
yeej muaj tej kevxaav ntawd tub heev le (deep psychology).
Muab has lug ces Suav kuj nyam txug Moob lub tswvyim kws has txug ntuj
tsim teb tsaug ntawd. Meskas kuj nyam Moob lub tswvyim kws qha tug
tuag lub neej rua cov tseem muaj sa hab taw kev rua nwg tug nplig moog
thawj thab.
Qhov kws ua rua phaum moob tshab nwgnuav totaub nyuab hab txaisyuav
tej lugntsuag nuav lug ua Moob le keebkwm ces yog ib qho nyab kawg.
Yog txaisyuav ua kev teebhawm los kuj yog ib qhov xaav nyuab kawg le
hab. Txaisyuav le paajfuam kuj yog ib qho kws luas lwm haiv neeg kuj
qhuas txug peb Moob lub neej qub-qub (ancient people) thau u lug lawm.
Muab has rua huv fwjhuaj, fwvcheej, fwjchim ces yeej muaj lug sis caam
ntaag. Muab has rua huv lub neej ibtxwm coj, keevkwv, lugntsuag ces
Suav muaj tej ntawd taag lawm hab. Qhov nyuab yog paub tsi meej
hastas, tej lugntsuag nuav yog peb le tag lov, losyog peb Moob muab
lub neej tsiv Suav rog moog nyob lawv roob lawv haav lug has ua
lugntsuag rua tej mivnyuas noog xwb.
Yawm saub, Suav muaj lawm.
Zaaj laug los suav muaj lawm.
Qaumntuj yog fuabtais Suav ntaag
Tuabneeg nplajteb yog pejxeem losyog Moob ntaag
Ntawv noj ntawv haus ces Suav tej ntawv tso cai ntaag
Tej has rua sau toj nuav yog ntawm nqaj tawv le Moob tau ua lub neej
seev quasyeeg tau le 4-5 txheeb xyoo lug nuav.
Ntawm saab ntsujplig (tuabneeg moog lug tau rua sau ntuj) yog ib qhov
kws xaav nyuab kawg. Txawm yog cov tuabneeg Israel los yeej muaj le
zaaj lugntsuag koj has nuav hab. Qhov txawv ces puab muaj ntaubntawv,
muaj lub neej, keebkwm, hab muaj lugntsuag, ces puab tej paajfuam
(myth) ntawd txhajle dlhau lug ua ib hom lugntsuag kws txua tau txuj
lw kuas noob neej moog cuag tau YHWH (tsi yog npe). Tamsis Meskes tis
ua Yahweh, Moob hu ua Vaajtswv, phaum laug hu ua Yawm Saub xwb.
Tej lub caij kuv kuj xaav tsi txhoob txug qho zaaj lug kws koj has rua
huv nuav xws le zaaj koj has rua Hmoob-Lao nuav. Qho zag koj kuj nyam
txug Yesxus zaaj hab. Ntau zag koj kuj hastas Moob zaaj txhajle yog
xwb. Yog koj txuas tau kuas Moob tej lugntsuag kws yog paajfuam
(myth) ho lug nyob ze zog rua sau neej nuav es tsi txhob yog nyob rua
tam neej hab dlaab sis cuag tau hab hos totaub yoojyim rua tam toqaab
dlej dlaag nyaab qaab ntuj ces, kuv xaav hastas tsi muaj leejtwg yuav
noog koj ua tej zaaj nam xu quasdlaag le.
Yaj Tshaj Koob
Tony,
hais txog tej txuj Hmoob keeb kwm Hmoob ces yeej zoo kawg rau Hmoob
lawm, tsuas yog Hmoob tu ncua tsis muaj ntawv sau tau li 5000 tawm
ntau xyoo lawm es muaj ib txhia thiaj saib tsis tsham muaj nuj nqis
xwb uas, lwm haiv neeg tseem tuaj kawm Hmoob tej kev txawj kev paub
ntawm Hmoob coj mus yuav Doctor li ntawd los muaj coob. Nyob li phau
Bible lo kuv yeej tau thoob plaws lawm, yeej hais tau tu ncab ntu
ncuas ua ntej ua qab thiab, rau qhov tias ib tug neeg txawj ntse tuaj
sau ib cov lus rau hauv phau ntawv, taub muab tag nrog sawv daws cov
tswv yim coj los lo ua ib phau Bible loj li ntawd. Nyob li Siv Yis
tiam neeg yeej zoo haum rau Siv Yis lub caij los cawm neeg. Buhda los
yeej zoo haum rau nws lub caij, Jesus los yeej zoo tib yam thiab, tab
sis muag ib tug mas yog Hmoob tug cawm seej. Hmoob thiaj tuav nws npe
SIV YIS SIV YIS no tas li. Kuv le ces kuv tsis xyeej tej yam kws puab
has nkhaus quas ceeg rua kuv le, txawm puab has los kuv mam has rov
qaab nug saib puas qhov kws puab has yog dlaab tsis, has kom tau qhov
tseeb tes kuv le tsum.
YTK
Yaj Tshaj Koob
lha
HL,
kuv totaub koj cov lus zoo. Nyob Loojceeb kuv twb pom ib tug siv yis
tuaj ua neeb kho niam tojxeem ..... tsis nco qab nws npe lawm. Tus
siv yis kuv pom no mas nws 2 lub qhovmuag los los kuamuag kawg li, nws
yeej nqa rawv ib txoj phuam so tas mus li xwb. Tabsis nws ua neeb
txawv li peb cov Hmoob uas niaj hnub nim no ua. Nws tsis lam tshee
thiab ntaus nruas li cov nim no.
Kuv ntseeg tau haistias Hmoob yeej muaj siv yis tiag, tabsis hov yuav
haib npaum li YTK piav no mas kuv ntseeg tsis tag.
lha
noogdlej
Meb puas ncu qaab tej laug tis lug nruag le caag...."lug nruag lug
nriv-nrawv tso quav puv tog thawv, lug nruag lug nriv-nru tso quav puv
tog tsu." Tony, koj yog ib tug nyam-nyam txhais lug Mhoob, koj sim
txhais seb qhov kuv has hov txhais le caag.
noogdlej
On Oct 11, 9:53 pm, lha <lha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
lha
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noogdlej,
Ua cas koj tseem yuav tuaj stir lub hniag pasdej no kom nro thiab
nas?
lha
ilik...@yahoo.com
Kuv saib zoo li nej cov tuaj hauv no twb yog ib co neeg paub tab tej
zaum tseem txawj ntse kawg txog kab ke Hmoob lub neej qub qub yav pog
txheej thaum ub (era without high technology) thiab kab ke Hmoob lub
neej tshiab niaj hnub nim no (new era with high technology) kawg los
tshav. Tiamsid los tham txog tej lus no, nej yuav los sis cav hais
tsis sis haum li. Xyov yog nej txhob txwm ua neeg cav ncauj los yog
nej tus kheej yeej coj li tiag.
Cov lus kuv xav hais yog li no:
1. Los lus "dab neeg" ua cas tseem muaj tej tus muab coj los txhais
hais tias yog lus hais "Dag Neeg" los yog lus hais txog "Dab thiab
Neej". Vim li cas nej hos muab los lus "word" no coj los txhais li ub
li no kom confuse Hmoob cov lus hais. Raws li sawv daws yeej to taub
"dab neeg" yog hais txog ib zaj lus tau tshwm sim either xev coj los
hais kom lom zem (fiction story), los yog tau tshwm sim muaj tseeb
(non-fiction story) muaj rau yav neej ntev dhau los lawm xwb. los
lus "dab neeg" yog ib lub npe "noun" tis ua luv luv rau cov describe
cov zaj lus no xwb. Instead yuav hais los lus hais tias ib zaj lus
piav txog yav neej thaum ub no nws tsis zoo hais vim ntev thiab tsis
zoo mloog npaum los lus luv luv tis rau zaj lus no hais tias "dab
neeg" no. Tsis paub tus pog yawg txwv koob Hmoob leej twg yog tus
xub xub tis los lus no, tiamsid kuv yeej qhuas hais tias los lus no
qub heev thiab lub caij tis los lus no ntshais Hmoob yuav nyob ua ke
hauv ib lub zos los thiab thaum los lus tshwm sim kiag thiab ntshai
Hmoob tsis tau muaj coob. Niaj hnub no, mus txog lub teb chaws twg
los lus "dab neeg" no Hmoob yeej paub hais tias yog dab tsi. Kuv tsis
ntseeg hais tias thaum tus Hmoob uas nws xub xub tis los lus no nws
tsis yog xav hais tias "dab" hais txog dab, hos "neeg" hais txog
neeg. Los yog nws tis hais tias "dag" vim cov lus hais no yog lus
hais dag rau leej "neeg" xwb. Nej mas muab ntse dhau lawm unless nej
yog ib tug linguist es xav tshawb fawb saib los lus no derived qhov
twg los es thiaj tau coj los qhia ua kev txawj ntse pub rau tej me tub
me nyuam yav tom ntej. Tiamsid kuv ntseeg hais tias nej yog txhob
txwm hais kom cuam tshuam lwm tus lub ntsiab lus xwb.
2. Lub npe Siv Yis, xyov yog nyias nyob nyias ib rab teb hauv teb
chaws nplog los yog li cas. Kuv hlob luaj no, kuv hnov thawj zaug YTK
hais tias yog "Tooj Nchai Siv Yis". Kuv niam kuv txiv, kuv pog kuv
yawg lawv kuj yog laus neeg txawj txog Hmoob kab li kev cai kawg, kuv
yeej tsis tau hnov lawv hu hais tias "Tooj Nchai Siv Yis" no dua li.
Qhov kuv hnov mas yog thaum ib tug txiv neeb txheev neeb nce thaj,
thiab yuav mus muab ntsuj plig mas nws txheev txog "Leej Nkaub Siv
Yis" no xwb. Tsis tau hnov lawv hus txog "Tooj Nchai Siv Yis" no dua
li. Tiamsid tej zaum nyias nyob nyias ib rab teb hauv teb chaws nplog
tus ho paub li cas kuj muaj. Tiamsid Siv Yis no mas txhuas tus yeej
paub. Nej ib txhia tseem hais tias cov txiv neeb mas lawv hu lawv
hais tias lawv yog Siv Yis. Qhov no mas ntshai yog cov txiv neeb/niam
neeb tuaj sawv rau tim USA no thiaj hais li. Kuv pog kuv yawg lawv
muaj cov txawj neeb txwj neeb laus kawg, lawv tsis lam hu lawv tus
kheej hais tias lawv yog Siv Yis no. Lawv tsuas txheev cov dab neeb
thiab hus txog Leej Nkaub Siv Yis no xwb.
3. Zaj dab neeg Siv Yis, muaj ntau zaj hais sib xws thiab yog leej
twg yog ib tug me nyuam Hmoob yug loj nyob pem toj roob, kuv ntseeg
hais tias txhuas tus yeej hnov tej laus hais zaj dab neeg "Siv Yis' no
tiamsid ib lub teb chaws nyias cim ntawm hlwb xwb ces nyias hais nyias
txawv zog lawm. YTK zaj mas kuv ntseeg hais tias tsis yog yawg cim
hais ntawm ncauj thiab hlwb, yog yawg copy hauv ib phau ntawv dab neeg
sau zoo tseg lawm thiab yawg coj los paste rau hauv no rau peb nyeem
xwb vim cov lus hais muab teeb tau zoo zoo thiaj teeb tau muaj muaj
chaw txawb tsis hais rov qab rov quav. Yog cim ntawm hlwb thiab lub
ncauj xwb, cov lus hais yuav muaj qhov tom ntej tom qab. Thaum ub kuv
yawg hais zaj dab neeg no rau peb cov me nyuam mloog mas nws zoo mloog
heev. Thiab nws yog ib zaj dab neeg zoo kawg kiag. Kuv ntseeg hais
tias zaj dab neeg no tsis yog fiction, thiab lub caij Siv Yis txawm ua
neeg, yawg yeej muaj tswv yim txuj ci dua lwm tus. Kuv tsis ntseeg
hais tias Siv Yis mas txawj thiab ua tau npaum li zaj dab neeg hais.
Zaj dab neeg yog neeg pheej muab txua ntxiv ib txheej dhau ib txheej
kom muaj ceem thiab zoo mloog li tej movie neeg ua no kom attract neeg
lawm xwb. Tiag tiag Siv Yis yeej tsis txawj thiab keej npaum li
hais.
Nej feem coob yeej paub thiab tau hnov "dab neeg" Tsab Kaim dua los
lawm. Pog thaum ub kuv me me nyob tim Nplog, tau mus kawm ntawv nyob
Nam Mo ntawm txoj kev mus Mueng Cab. Muaj ib tug tub kawm ntawm Hmoob
hu ua Tsa Yaj nyob Xai Nya Bouri tuaj. Nws hais tias Tsab Kaim lawv
nyob koom tib lub zos no. Nws qhia peb hais tias nws paub Tsab Kaim
thiab Phouthem Lao Tswb Tsab lawv zoo heev. Tus npawg Tsa no piav
Tsab Kaim tej tes taw txuj ci lawj xeeb rau peb mloog mas peb yeej rua
ncauj tag thiab luag tsheej tsaug qhuas txog Tsab Kaim qhov peev xwm
no. Yog muab ua tib zoo piv los mas Tsab Kaim zaj dab neeg mus sis
thooj li Siv Yis zaj thiab. Kuv cim tau ib qhoTsas Yaj piav txog yog
hais txog muaj ib zaug tham ham Nplog tuaj khuj Hmoob Xais Nyab Bouri
cov twm coj mus tua noj dawb tsis them nyiaj. Tsab Kaim hais rau
Nplog hais tias nej yuav cab twm mus los tau, tiamsid cia kuv ua tes
taw rau nej saib tso. Tsab Kaim ya loo pem qaum tsev ya plaws rau
nram qab tsag thiab ua 2-3 zaug tag tsis chwv ru tsev ces Nplog thov
luas loo cog lus rau Tsab Kaim tias lawv yuav tsis tuaj yuam cab Hmoob
twm coj mus tua noj li lawm. Thaum Tsa piav zaj lus no txog Tsab Kaim
mas peb cov me nyuam Hmoob kawm ntawv ua ke mloog zaj lus no mas peb
qw ib tsaug zoo siab qhua vim Tsab Kaim tau pab Hmoob dim kev caij
tsuj. Cav ua rau peb muaj hwj chim loj thiab zoo siab kawg kiag vim
peb cov tuaj kawm ntawv ua ke mas me nyuam Nplog yeej muaj nyiaj dua
peb thiab. Zaum noj tuaj txog rau teb chaws no, kuv tus kheej tau
los nrog kiag tus Tsab Kaim noj mov hauv cawv ua ke tham txog tej no,
Tsab Kaim hais tias tsis muaj li. Kuv mam tig rov mus xav txog tej
zaj lus no, kuv ho tig ntsia Tsab Kaim nws lub cev tus kheej, kuv
thiaj xav hais tias leej twg yog tsis qhov "dab neeg" or "fiction
story" txog Tsab Kaim no. Tiamsid kuv hais tias Tsab Kaim yog ib tug
neeg zoo lus tshaj plaws thiab hais lus mos tshaj. yawg thiab kuv sis
zeem ua kwvtij kiag. Qhov kuv ntseeg, yog ntseeg hais tias zaum no
kuv pom thiab tau nrog kiag Tsab Kaim tham ntawm ncauj lawm. Tej dab
neeg hais txog yawg mas yog "fiction" tag nrho. Kuv paub hais tias
yawg kuj txawj muoi Thai no me ntsis tiamsid tsis yog champion. Hais
txog txawj lawj xeeb thiab yees siv li tej neeg tau piav mas Tsab Kaim
tsis tau kam lees rau kuv hnov kiag li. Tej zaum yog personal secret
tsis kam qhia, tiamsid yawg tus kwv piav rau kuv ib qhov teeb meem
dub tuaj muab yawg tua nram San Diego es yawg dhia qhov rai txhauj ceg
sab kawg no ces kuv paub hais tias Tsab Kaim yog ib tug normal Hmoob
li peb thiab or he may know little more about martial art. Yog li Siv
Yis zaj los yog tib yam nkaus.
4. YTK zaj dab neeg hais txog Sis Yis mus rau qaum ntuj thiab lub
ntiaj teb mas mus mus los los li niaj hnub no peb mus lwm lub teb
chaws. Muaj tseeb yav neej thaum ub mas neeg primative heev. Neeg
ntseeg hais tias muaj ib lub ntuj (sky) nyob ze lub ntiaj teb. Tsis
tag li neeg ntiaj teb yeej ntseeg hais tias lub ntiaj nws tiaj tiaj li
ib daim txiag. Qab ntug mas txawj kawg thiab yog mus txog mas kawg
poob rau sab nraud. Twb yog tom qab no, Christopher Columbus nws caij
nkoj tuaj tsis poob qab ntuj thiab tuaj txog America, neeg mam ntseeg
thiab pom hais tias lub ntiaj teb no kheej kheej li lub txiv kab ntxwv
tsis yog pluav li daim txiag. Yav neej thaum ub neeg xav hais tias
lub hnub tawm tim hauv ntug thiab txawj ya poob rau qab ntug lawm.
Zaum no nej twb paub meej meej hais tias lub hnub stay stationary,
tiamsid lub ntiaj teb(world) khiav ncig lub hnub 1 xyoo thiaj los txog
qhov chaw qub, ho nws tig ncig nws ib hnub thiaj tig los txog qhov
chaw qub. Yog li yav thaum ub tej neeg tuaj txawv ib lub teb chaws
tuaj tus neeg ntawd txawv txawv ces neeg txawm xav hais tias yog nws
tuaj saum ntuj tuaj no. Kuv cim tau hais tias tej laus tseem piav
qhia tias thawj zaug lawv pom cov Fab Kis mas lawv tham hais tias cov
neeg no txawv thiab dawb dawb. Lawv yog neeg qaum ntuj. Twb yog tom
qab no, sawv daws ua tsov rog mam paub hais tias yog neeg Fab kis tuaj
Fab Kis teb chaws tuaj. Yog li lub ntiaj teb no txawm tau more than 5
billion years lawm. Txog hnub no nej pus pom muaj ib lub ntuj (sky)
twg nyob ze ze lub ntiaj teb thiab tseem muaj neeg nyob. Nej twb paub
meej meej hais tias lub ntuj (sky) nws tsis muaj chaw kawg li. Yog li
qhov muaj lwm lub ntuj nrog lub ntiaj teb no yog xws li Sun, Mars,
Jupiter, Mercury, etc.. go see here: http://www.asaf.co.il/astronomy/graphics/planets.jpg.
Niaj hnub no nej pus tau pom ib daim article twg hais tias yav thaum
ub mas muaj ib lub ntuj (sky) nyob ze ze lub ntiaj teb no es muaj neeg
nyob thiab sis txuas lus tau. Yog nej ho pom daim article no sim muab
tso rau hauv no peb sawv daws mus xyuas saib.
5. Qhov kuv tu siab tshaj yog cov neeg mus ntseeg Christian pheej los
cem thiab thuam los lus "DAB" no rau peb cov kwvtij Hmoob. Los lus
"DAB" ntawm lus Hmoob tsis tau ntaus nqi hais tias yog "devil" li lus
English hais. Peb Hmoob hais los lus "DAB" no los describe rau tej
yam yus tsis pom ntawm qhov muag xwb. Qhov tseeb niaj hnub no tsis
tau muaj ib qho proof hais tias "DAB" exists as a body. Tej neeg muaj
mob vim yog raug kab mob "germ or germs" xwb, tsis yog raug "DAB".
Tiamsid ntawm peb Hmoob mas lawv tsis pom thiab tsis paub cov kab
mob"germ or germs" ces lawv txawm xav hais tias raug "DAB" no xwb.
Yav neej no, txawm nej cov tuaj hauv no feem coob twb pom thiab paub
txog science lawm los nej yeej tseem ntseeg hais tias muaj "DAB" thiab
pheej mus ua neeb li Dr. Pov uas even though Dr. Pov is a doctor who
knows well about "germ or germs" los nws tseem ntseeg hais tias muaj
Ntsuj Plig no thiab. Qhov peb hais tsis sis haum tshaj yog txoj kev
ntseeg vim kev ntseeg no exists ntev los dhau lawm. Tiag tiag cov
ntseeg Christian nws yeej ntseeg "DAB" los yog yam tsis pom ntawm lub
qhov muag tib yam li cov Hmoob tsis coj Christian. Jesus or Yes Xus
nws yog leej tib neeg, nws tsis yog Tswv Ntuj. Actually, there is no
Tswv Ntuj or God, but people believe it for so long and it is
impossible to change the believe. Do you know that in the past
especially in Europe many scientists were persecuted, prosecuted, and
murdered because their finding about the facts of the world and
universe? Religion deivides us all.
Ntsib nej dua.
Tony
Tej lug koj has nuav coj tau Moob lub neej nyob sau fuab lug tsaws rua
huv aav lawm (take the wishful thinking of mystical power, magic, and
supernatural force right down to earh).
Has txug lu lug Dlaab, dlaag, neej, neeg le koj has ntawd kuj yuav
muaj ib nraab yog le koj has. Ib nraab yuav yog le lu lug iha noog
ntawd hab. Qho tseeb ces peb yeej nyob rua ntu neej tsi paub sov lu
lug twg txhajle yog lawm (state of confusion). Txawmyog suavdlawg tsi
yog cov linguist los yeej muaj feem lug taug saibseb tug caag lug lug
qhovtwg lug hab yog ua le caag phaum tuabneeg ntawd txhajle siv lu lug
ntawd saav (get use to).
Has txug koj txuj kev tu sab txug cov ntseeg Vaajtswv kws pheej muab
lu lug dlaab ntawd lug tawmtsaam cov tseem coj txuj qub kevcai hab has
txug dovtawm Pov moog uaneeg, kuv xaav hastas koj ha dlhau zog. Txawm
yog le ntawd los koj yeej fuam feem has le koj has vim koj twb lug
xaus lug hastas koj tsi ntseeg tej ntawd (scientific explanation has
limit too). Steven Hawkin qhov video nyavnyuas tawm tsi ntev ntawd
hastas the universe may not need God. It will just creat itself. Lu
lug noog, what create the universe?
Koj kuj tsi tseeg hastas muaj ntsujplig, have you ever sometime wonder
what hold a body so that it has feeling, emotional, and warmth that
could smile, feeling sad, and stare at you in the face?
For science only, the cells are what make our body function, but there
is more than just the cell. That is what the ancient Hmong didn't
know. They had search high and low and could not make the connection
to the entity or creator. Here, we are trying to make sense of our
present day and see what we can learn from our past so that we can
have a better day for tomorrow.
Tony
kuas kuv txhais nua ma kuj yog ib qho nyuab kawg le hab laiv.
Just to read between the lines or xaav rua tom hauvntej hab rua
tomqaab rua ntawm koj sob lug ntawd, kuv xaav hastas tej laug has
lugntsuag dlaag mivnyuas yau kuas tsi txhob tshov tshov tej nam tej
txiv xwb.
Nwg lug ntawm zaaj lugntsuag kws nyuas mivnyuas quaj-quaj taug es leej
nam ntxa tsi tau le lawm. Leejnam txhaj has txug zaaj lugntsuag puj
dlaab paug dligmuag dle tau nyuas ntxhais kws pheej lawv kev tug ntiv
taws noj thaus nwg tsivntsaim rua yaav montuj. Nwg cua pobtxhaa rov
nkiv-nkawv, cov puj dlaab paug kws pum kev noog nwg hastas, nwg noj
dlaab tsi, nwg teb puab hastas, nwg cua plhaub maag plhaub mig ntxuag
kuantxhais.
Leej nam has zaaj lugntsuag ntawd ntxha tej mivnyuas kws quajtaug hab
tshov namtxiv heev xwb. Txawm yog has rua tej mivnyuas ntawd xwb los
kuv yeej nyam noog kawg. Kuv pw ib leeg tsausntujnti xwb los kuv yeej
tsi ntshai rua lub caij kuv tseem yog mivnyuas yau.
A long story just to translate your short quoted question.
Born2beMhong
1. zoo li koj los tsi paub dabtsi kiag li thiab (sivyis thiab
toojnchai sivyis...yog cov ruam tsi paub thiaj li tsi paub xwb nawb,
hmoob yog ib hom neeg tsi nyiam hais lus kom npliag npliag, ces cias
li muab hus qhov luv luv lawm tiag yog sivyis no xwb....LOLz!).
2. tsi tag li los cov hauv no los kuv rov tsi nkagsiab li lawm thiab,
kuv twb xav tias mus so no los zoo li sawvdaws tseem rov tuaj ua dog
ua dig zoo li no thiab. cuag li peb qhabnab no tsi paubtab
kiag...hahhahaha LOLz! -- tsi yog tim ib leeg twg li nawb, vim yog zoo
koj saib kuv li ntiagtug tsi muaj nuj nqi, koj hais lus ntsw kuv tug.
ces kuv thiaj li rov hais lus teb rov rau koj xwb. qhov tiag, vim
"PEB TXHUA TUS RUAM TIB YAM."
3. ua txiv neej yawg tib yam lawm, NOJ TSI TAU YUAV TUAG, HAIS TSI TAU
YUAV SWB, thaum luag lam tau lam hais lus TSHUM yus lawm. yog li no,
YTK thiab Lha nrog rau lawv coob tus no thiaj li rov tuaj SIBNPLAWG ua
pluas tshauv ncho pas lug li no rau peb saib duas. tej yam no, yog
yus yog cov neeg txawj neeg ntse, yus yeej nkagsiab tias. leej twg
qhov los yeej yog Neeg tsim los thiaj li muaj li no, no ces koj tsi
thuam thiab hais lus ntsw kuv li, kuv los tsi hais lus ntsw thiab
thuam koj li. ces peb tham tej ncauj lus zoo zoo li peb yog ib cov
neeg paubtab xwb.
4. kuv cias li tsi paub hmoob/moob li lawm tiag. puas yog peb yog ib
cov neeg ua nyiam nyiam tham lus kawg kiag. tabsi peb tsi muaj qhov
critical thinking thiab respect ob tog kom zoo sibluag. peb pheej
nyiam nyiam TSHUM lwm tus li tag li xwb?
tusiab rau Hmoob/Moob
Born
Yaj Tshaj Koob
PY ilik,
Nyob zoo npawg iliki, zoo siab uas koj tau tuaj sib tham nrog sawv
daws hauv no, qhov loj yoj koj xav nrog kuv tham txog noob neej, "kuv
mas yog neeg nyob lub neej qub qub puag thaum ntxov ub" Koj yog neeg
nyob rau lub neej tshiab new technology science, Kuv mloog koj tham
mas koj yog ib tus neeg paub qab hau thiab xyuam xim tshaj lij tob
kawg nkaus.
Tus neeg Hais dab neeg yog YTK, tus neeg txhais cov lus Hmoob yog
Tony, tsis yog lha koj hais yuam kev pob zeb ua pob ntoos lawm.
>........................... Kuv hlob luaj no, kuv hnov thawj zaug YTK
> hais tias yog "Tooj Nchai Siv Yis". Kuv niam kuv txiv, kuv pog kuv
> yawg lawv kuj yog laus neeg txawj txog Hmoob kab li kev cai kawg, kuv
> yeej tsis tau hnov lawv hu hais tias "Tooj Nchai Siv Yis" no dua li.
Kuv ntseeg hais tias kev hais lus yus tsis txhob dag yus tus kheej li
koj cov lus no, yog piav li koj piav no ces koj pog koj yawg yuav tsis
tau yog laus neeg, nws yog neeg laus xwb, yuav tsis yog neeg paub txog
Hmoob kab lis kev cai dab qhuas Hmoob li koj hais. Tus neej paub thiab
txawj txog tej kev cai Hmoob ntawd hais txawv koj piav cov lus saum
no.
> Qhov kuv hnov mas yog thaum ib tug txiv neeb txheev neeb nce thaj,
> thiab yuav mus muab ntsuj plig mas nws txheev txog "Leej Nkaub Siv
> Yis" no xwb. Tsis tau hnov lawv hus txog "Tooj Nchai Siv Yis" no dua
> li.
Koj pom tus txiv neeb leej twg ua neeb mus muab ntsuj plig es txheev
txog leej nkaub Siv Yis no, koj cov lus no twb tsis meej pem lawm ne
thiab yog lus lam piav raws tswv yim sav, qhuas neeb luag muaj ntau
ntau piaj qhua neeb, ib nkawm qhua neeb tus txiv neeb siv nyias kho
nyias yam mob, tias yog tus dab-dab tsis tuaj ua mob yuav tau siv
nkawm qhua neeb twg coj los kho los pab thiaj kho tau yam mob ntawd,
yog yam dab ab tsis ua mob, los sis yog ntsuj plig xav fab ntxeeb.
> 3. Zaj dab neeg Siv Yis, muaj ntau zaj hais sib xws thiab yog leej
> twg yog ib tug me nyuam Hmoob yug loj nyob pem toj roob, kuv ntseeg
> hais tias txhuas tus yeej hnov tej laus hais zaj dab neeg "Siv Yis' no
Koj sob lus 3 saum, yog tias koj paub tej zaj txawv koj kuj coj tuaj
piav rau hauv no, tsis txhob xuas ncauj dawb hais ncauj lus kev plob
hais kev plus li koj hais no mas koj thiaj yog tus tseeb thiab paub
dua tsis lam dag yus tus kheej ov.
>.......................... YTK zaj mas kuv ntseeg hais tias tsis yog yawg cim
> hais ntawm ncauj thiab hlwb, yog yawg copy hauv ib phau ntawv dab neeg
> sau zoo tseg lawm thiab yawg coj los paste rau hauv no rau peb nyeem
> xwb vim cov lus hais muab teeb tau zoo zoo thiaj teeb tau muaj muaj
> chaw txawb tsis hais rov qab rov quav. Yog cim ntawm hlwb thiab lub
> ncauj xwb, cov lus hais yuav muaj qhov tom ntej tom qab.
Kuv tseem ua 1 hlis rau koj mus tshawb phau ntawv pem Hmoob ABC Art
los sis hauv internet saib puas pom ib phau hais li YTK hai no, yog
koj nrhiav tsis tau txhais tau tias koj dag koj tus kheej lawm, kuv
ntseeg hais tias koj txoj kev kwv yees mas yuam kev deb ntawm txoj kev
tseeb, thiab koj rov qab dag koj tus kheej rau sawv daws paub pom txog
qhov koj hais no, ib tus neeg yus twb tsis tau nrog luag nyob ua ke es
yus yuav ua cas paub txog hauv luag lwm tus lub nrog cev tias muaj dab
tsis, tab txawm nrog kiag luag nyob los twb tsis paub qees. Tus neeg
kawm muaj kws tawm los tus neeg ntawm hais lus muaj chaw txawb chaw
rau, hais muaj qab xaus muaj luag, muaj paus muaj ntsis. YTK tau kawm
muaj kws los, nws tsis tau mus copy hauv phau ntawv ntawm lwm tug neeg
uas twb sau tau cia lawm, Yus hais lus yuav tau hais kom yus cov lus
kav tau yus lub taub hau mas thiaj tseeb, tsis txhob ua neeg mos qus
li koj no txog qhov kawg yuav tau hle ris, haisli tsis muaj hniav. Ib
tus neeg kawm tawm los, ib tug neeg hnov luag piav xwb, ces hais lus
li koj cov lus saum toj no ntag. kuv ntseeg tias koj txoj kev kawm,
mas tsis tau txawj txaus yuav tau kawm kom paub thoob plaws mas thiaj
li yuav coj tuaj piav pub sawv daws mloog tau.
>..................................................................Kuv tsis ntseeg
> hais tias Siv Yis mas txawj thiab ua tau npaum li zaj dab neeg hais.
> Zaj dab neeg yog neeg pheej muab txua ntxiv ib txheej dhau ib txheej
> kom muaj ceem thiab zoo mloog li tej movie neeg ua no kom attract neeg
> lawm xwb. Tiag tiag Siv Yis yeej tsis txawj thiab keej npaum li
> hais.
Yog hais li koj sob lus saum toj no ces kuv ntseeg tias koj yeej tsis
txawj Hmoob cov kab lis kev cai ib qho li ntag, koj tsuas txawj ua koj
tus txiv tsev nkaus xwb los xyov twb tuav tsis tau lub cuab yig sib
nrauj ntau tus poj niam ua dog ua dig lawm los muaj. cov lus koj hais
saum no tej zaum koj hnov TseemYeej tham txog kev txua ua movies es
koj tham lawv yawg qab, movies thiab real keeb kwm real dab neeg txawv
deb ntawm kev ua movies. Tus neeg tsis muaj koob nrov npe cawm tau tib
neeg txoj sia ces, tib neeg yeej tsis tuav txog nws lub npe ib zaug
los txog tav no li ntag.
> Nej feem coob yeej paub thiab tau hnov "dab neeg" Tsab Kaim dua los
> lawm.
Koj qhov dab neeg no mas thiaj yog koj kawm tau thiab koj txawj tiag
tiag hauv koj lub siab los hais. Ua li koj puas tau hnov dua Hmoob ua
tej yam dab tsis Hmoob tuav txog Tsab kaim lub npe, yog Hmoob yuav hu
ces Hmoob kuj hu tuav txog Vaj Pov lub npe lawm, koj puas tau hnov
dua Hmoob hais tias 5-6 leej neeg tuaj ntsib Vaj Pov es tas nrho 5-6
leej ntawd nyias tham nyias qhov tib txhij rau Vaj Pov mloog, Vaj pov
tib txhij mloog lawv tag nrho cov lus ua ke, thaum sawv daws hais hais
xaus VP li teb lawv cov lus tias koj li yog li no, tus tom, tus tim,
tus nram, tus pem rau lawv thiab, txiav txim kho plaub ntug rau lawv
tag nrho txhua tus nyias li rau nyias. Yog peb Hmoob txhob muaj ntawv
sau li nim no ces, lwm Hnub yog Hmoob ib zaj dab neeg uas muaj ceem
kawg nkaus hais txog Pov Hwm Yej thiab no.
>...................................Christopher Columbus nws caij
> nkoj tuaj tsis poob qab ntuj thiab tuaj txog America,
Yog koj paub npaum li no tiag tiag li, koj paub Coumbus tuaj xyoo twg
rau teb chaws no? Thiab yog yuav tuaj mus qhov twg? Yog yuav tuaj mus
ua dab tsis es thiaj tuaj poob rau rooj teb no, koj sim piav me ntsis
pub mloog seb?
>....................................Yav neej thaum ub neeg xav hais tias
> lub hnub tawm tim hauv ntug thiab txawj ya poob rau qab ntug lawm.
> Zaum no nej twb paub meej meej hais tias lub hnub stay stationary,
> tiamsid lub ntiaj teb(world) khiav ncig lub hnub 1 xyoo thiaj los txog
> qhov chaw qub, ho nws tig ncig nws ib hnub thiaj tig los txog qhov
> chaw qub.
Kuv yog neeg laus lawm kuv paub tsis txog tej no, koj yog tus tau kawm
paub txog Lub Hnub zoo tias, Lub Hnub tsis tig, "nws yog lub ntiaj teb
ncig 1 xyoo thiaj los txog qhov chaw qub, ho nws tig ncig nws ib hnub
thiaj los txog qhov chaw qub." Koj ob qhos no mas kuv tsis nkag siab
li, Ua Cas lub ntiaj teb khiav cig lub hnub 1 xyoos thiaj los txog
qhov qub, ho nws ho tig ncig nws ib hnub thiaj los txog qhov qub
thiab, koj kawm hais tau txawv ua luaj li. puas yog lub ntiaj teb ncig
24 teev rov los txog qhov qub thiab ncig 8640 tauj ib lub xyoo no maj,
ntshai koj yuav tau kawm dua pob.
Ntawm kuv mas kuv tsis ntseeg li koj hais, kuv ntseeg tias lub hnub
tawm tuaj, Yog hais tias lub ntiaj teb no khiav ncig ces thaum koj mus
nyob rau saum ib nta ntuj koj yuav pom lub ntiaj teb txav lawm thaum
yus rov los yuav tsis ncaj lub chaw, rau qhov daim av twb txav lawm
ne, thiab yog li cas peb caij nyooj hoom sab hnub poob mus rau sab
hnub tuaj mas lub xuab moos tsis txawv li, yog muaj li qhov koj thiab
cov science hais ces thaum kuv sawv ya kiag ces daim av ncig zuj zus
mus rau hnub poob lawm ces kuv txawm tsis ya los kuv nyob ntawd tos ce
daim av cia li txav ncig los thawj kuv ces kuv cia nqis tsaws kiag rau
hauv xwb, es tseem yuav siv caij nyoog ya mus dab tsis.
> ....................................Yog li lub ntiaj teb no txawm tau more than 5
>billion years lawm.
Tej li koj hais no puas yog yawm saub sau maj, nws yog neeg sau xwb
nev, ua cas koj ho ntseeg thiab qhov tim khawv qhia tau tias yog 5
billion years lawm ntawd yog dab tsis es koj thiaj yuav ntseeg tau
tias yog li ntawd tiag no, lawv tsuas lam kwv yees yam tsis muaj tim
khawv li thiab raws li kuv paub naj, qhov koj paub no twb tsis tseeb
tsis piv tau qhov kuv tham txog Tooj Nchai Siv Yis ib nyuag qhov.
>...................................................................................Yog li
qhov muaj lwm lub ntuj nrog lub ntiaj teb no yog xws li Sun, Mars,
Jupiter, Mercury, etc.. go see here: http://www.asaf.co.il/astronomy/graphics/planets.jpg.
Niaj hnub no nej pus tau pom ib daim article twg hais tias yav thaum
ub mas muaj ib lub ntuj (sky) nyob ze ze lub ntiaj teb no es muaj neeg
nyob thiab sis txuas lus tau. Yog nej ho pom daim article no sim muab
tso rau hauv no peb sawv daws mus xyuas saib.
Qhov koj muab rub tawm los no nws yog Mab dawb xuas tes nrag ko tawm
los xwb twb tsis yog lawv yees thaij duab tau tej no, nws tsuas xav
tias yuav yog zoo li ntawd ces lam ko ua ntawv rau neeg kawm.
Yaam twg los yuav tsis muaj qab hau ua luaj twg thiab kaj.
YTK
yawgnomdub
PY ilik thiab YTK aw
Kuv nyeem nej ob qhov science saum no mas kuv ib ke nyeem ib ke luag
ua rau kua muag paim tshe los li os. Ua cas hnub no nej yuav tuaj
predict science tau zoo mloog ua luaj naj. Muaj txuj yij meem ntuav
tuaj rau peb kawm nawb.
Taumdub
Yawmnomdlub,
Tshuav koj version ne, koj ho yuav has le caag?
Nplog muaj lu lug has tas : Xam xab nam khws khaub npaas khav civ
cais. Yog mej ntseeg Sivyig los yog, ntseeg Yesxus los yog. Nyaj
tsuas nkaag tuab lub dlawm xwb kad?
Yaj Tshaj Koob
>
> Meb puas ncu qaab tej laug tis lug nruag le caag...."lug nruag lug
> nriv-nrawv tso quav puv tog thawv, lug nruag lug nriv-nru tso quav puv
> tog tsu." Tony, koj yog ib tug nyam-nyam txhais lug Mhoob, koj sim
> txhais seb qhov kuv has hov txhais le caag.
>
> noogdlej
Noogdlej es,
Koj tsis nco qab hnub i koj twb swb, khiav ua ko tw pos tw nthoob
chaws kiag hauv koj ob ceg tshwm plaws tom xub ntiag lawm los casj. Ua
cas koj ntshai kawg nkaus li, kuv twb nyeem koj qhov post koj hais
tias has lug nruag nriv nrawv tso qhuv puv thog thawv, has lug nruag
nriv nru tso quav puv tog tsu ntawd tag lawm, tab sis koj tais caus
kawg ces koj muab delete tawm lawm. ces lha thiaj li teb cov lus li
nram qab no
> noogdlej,
> Ua cas koj tseem yuav tuaj stir lub hniag pasdej no kom nro thiab
> nas?
> lha
Ces koj li rov qab sau dua qhov post li nram qab no tias
> Tony hab Lha,
> > Tam li kuv nyeem YTK zaj Siv Yis story no mas zoo li nws yog ib zaj
> > dabneeg fairy tail xwb, ua li cas hov muaj ib txhia muab coj los coj
> > li religion? Koj hov xav li cas?
Noodlej ua cas es yus xij rov qab muab yus lub ntsej muag tsuj tas li,
yog li cas kuv thiaj hais li no rau koj, rau qhov hais tias yus xij
muab tej uas yog Hmoob niam Hmoob txiv xeeb tawm los hais mus rau qhov
phem ho qhuas lwm tug li. Ua cas ua neeg nyob yuav tsis paub qab hau
li es xij yuav ntseeg cov phau ntawv ua neeg sau ua luaj, kuv twb tau
hais ntau ntau zaug lawm tias tej ntaub ntawv sau ua phau ntawv ntawd
puav leej yog los ntawm tib neeg sau dab neeg thiab lug nruag los,
tsis yog tias nyob nyob es cia li tawm poob los rau nej cov Hmoob siv,
los yog lam kwv yees hais tau li nej hais ntawd, yuav tsum muaj lub
hauv paus los ntawm tib neeg xeeb tau tseg.
Kuv muaj ib cov kwv tij thiab Phas Nyas Npis nrog rau Col Haam Choj,
nrog rau As caas Xeev Pov Thoj lawv cov no lawv coj dab qhuas Yesxus
thaum 1952 los lawm, lawv cov no coj tsis nruj thiab tsis hais lwm tug
Hmoob tej kev cai dab qhuas li. Cov uas xij hais tu ub tu no tej kev
dab qhuas ces puav leej yog tuaj coj tim Meskas no yog feem coob thiaj
xij hais li.
Tooj Nchai Siv Yis, Buhda, Yesxus, peb tug no mas tam sim no yog peb
tug dab ua loj kawg nkaus ua sawv daws nyias teev nyias tug ntag ov.
YTK
tseemyeej
Yog noovdev hais tias:"lug nruag lug nriv-nrawv tso quav puv tog
thawv, lug nruag lug nriv-nru tso quav puv tog tsu." ces yog nws
txhais tau tias "Kuav txob ntsim yuav ntsev rau" no naj
Hahaha.....
Keep up your good fight!
TseemYeej.
Yaj Tshaj Koob
Tus kwv Yawgnomdub,
Kuv los yeej sau natwv luag mob plaab taag nrho le hab los muas. Le
hov es kuv txhaj has tas VP zaaj mas ntshai yuav muaj ceem heev rua
qhov twb ua tsis tau li ntawd los Hmoob yeej hais li ntawd ne puas
yog, thiab nej puas tau hnov dua Hmoob tham hais li.
ytk
yawgnomdub
> Tooj Nchai Siv Yis, Buhda, Yesxus, peb tug no mas tam sim no yog peb
> tug dab ua loj kawg nkaus ua sawv daws nyias teev nyias tug ntag ov.
Tseem tshuav Mohammed thiab nej. Tus no yog cov musline tus siv yig
nej. Cos musline mas lawv zoo siab muab lawv puab nplaum tuag rau lawv
tus siv yig laiv. Nej puas ua tau li ntawm maj.
taumdub aw
Kuv tsi xav hais kuv zaj tuaj os. Yog kuv hais mas haj yam yuav tawm
coob tus tuaj, tej zaum nej tus yaweh tsujsuam los yuav tawm tuaj
thiab os tabsis kav liam. Kuv hais lawv li cov christiananity xwb mas
tus siv yig no luag hu ua prophet lossis cov raug xa. Prophet mas nws
tsi represent nws tus kheej li nej hmoob xav tabsis prophet mas yog
the higher or supreme power xa los mus ua nws tes hauj lwm xwb. Lawv
li christianity mas prophet yog deliver the message and savior of
mankind xwb nws tus kheej ua tsi tau dab tsi, tus xa nws thiaj ua tau
xwb.
Example li Mose mas yog ib tus prophet uas los cawm haiv neeg Israel
kom dim txoj kev ua qhev tabsis tus muab lub power yog Vajtswv. Mose
yog tus sawv cev thiab hais Vajtswv cov lus xwb. Dhau li ntawm ces
muaj cov siv yig ua tuj zug los tabsis cov no tsi muaj lub hwjchim loj
li Mose. Lawv los ua hauj lwm ib ntus ib ntus li Vajtswv kom lawv ua
thiab xwb. Txhua tus Prophet no puav leej yog los pab cov neeg Israel
sab qaij tawv kom ua tau neeg zoo thiab sab ntsujplig kom tig mus hawm
tus tseem Vajtswv xwb.
lha
>
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Lo lus kuv sid yog "dabneeg" ov, tsis yog dab neeg (dab thiab neeg),
nyias txawv nyias qhov meaning. Kuv tseem muaj lus ntau yuav nug
tijlaug YTK tabsis tsis muaj sijhawm lub caij no. Tam li kuv nyeem
iliki cov lus mas nws kuj muaj tej qhov good points thiab tabsis uas
cas YTK koj yuav ua nyaum ua luaj rau yawg thiab mas?
lha
Yaj Tshaj Koob
Kwv Born2bH,
Tib neeg yeej muaj ntau ntau hom neeg nyob ua ke, muaj ib hom neeg mas
tsis tham lus pes tsawg, yog tau cawv me ntsis lawm mas li txawj txawj
tham hais lus ntau ntau tuaj, muaj ib hom mas thaum tsis qaug cawv ces
tham tham lus heev thaum qaug cawv lawm ces tsis hais lus lawm, ib hom
mas yug los ua cov paub qab hau ua thawj rau hauv nws tej pab pawg
nrog tu plaub ntug lus xaiv lus ncua, ib hom mas yus los ua pej xeem
tsis nyiam ua dab tsis, tsis nyiam ua plaub ua ntug,tsis nyiam nkawg
xaiv lus, ib hom mas nyiam nyiam thab plaub ntug tos tsis nyoo luag
tej tsiaj tuaj noj tsob puav nyuag nplej xwb los cia li xyuam phaj rau
nom tswv lawm, ib hom mas ua tub txib tub kai hlob nyhuv npua nyhuv
nyuj txeev plab nyuj, ib hom mas nyiam nyiam tshum kom lawv muaj kev
sib ceg, ib hom mab tsis pab tsis quav ntsej txog leej twg ib yam dab
tsis li, thaum niam txiv tuag mas nws ib leeg kwv coj mus faus.
Ua tsaug rau koj cov lus tuaj ntov dej rau, tab sis koj ntov me me xwb
ces tseem yuav cig ci pluj pliv thiab, luag hais tias yog lawv ua nyuj
tuaj ces yus yuav ua nees tos ces yog tej no, nees txawm tsis muaj kub
los nees npav xuas ko taw tuam xwb ntag.
YTK
lha
YTK & sawvdaws,
Tham qhov twg tham qhov ntawv xwb mas yuav. Yog yus tsis paub ces nug
cov paub, yog yus hod paub lawm ces qhia cov tsis paub xwb. Txhob
txawj-j sib ntuas thiab hais lus kom mob lwm tug mas. Kuv tseem xav
xav nrog koj tham ntau yam txog qhov no tabsis pheej tsis tshua muaj
sijhawm li. Ntse yuav tau mus thov nyiaj SSI noj es thiaj muaj
sijhawm tuaj nrog koj sib tham haud no laus.
lha
lha
> Tooj Nchai Siv Yis, Buhda, Yesxus, peb tug no mas tam sim no yog peb
> tug dab ua loj kawg nkaus ua sawv daws nyias teev nyias tug ntag ov.
Koj lam hais xwb pob? Kuv seb koj twb hais tias Siv Yis mas yog tus #1
haib tshaj Yesxus thiab Buddas lawm no ne, ua cas tsam no hov muab Siv
Yis hu ua dab lawm thiab? Koj twb piav haistias Siv Yis mas tua dab
haib kawg li no ne? Tsis yog tau cawd me ntsis lawm los ua cas tsam
no hais lus tsis meej pem lawm?
lha
cwjmem
Koj puas tau nug koj tus kheej hais tias:
1. Txiv neeb yog los yog ntawm qhua neeb los thawj. Kuv xav hais tias
yog 90%, at the initial stage, cov txiv neej yeej tsis xav los ua ib
tug txiv neeb, tab sis qhua neeb tsis tso. Ua rau tus neeg uas qhuas
neeb xaiv tau ntawm mob, mob ciaj khaub tag es nws mam li los lees ua
neeb. Thaum, los ua kiag neeb lawm tiag, ces nws cov mob ntawm ploj
lawm.
2. Xib fwb (a christian preacher) ntawm ces yus xav ua ces mus kawm,
Nyob rau sab ntuj no, nws yuav tau mus kawm kom tau ib daim degree.
hos nyob rau sab ub ces los twm mab dawb phau ntawv, ua hmoob hu ua
"vaj lug kub" no.
The difference is that anyone can be a christian pastor, Father, a
christian preacher, but not anyone can be a shaman because a shaman
healer spirit has to choose the shaman candidate. So, which one makes
or sense, shaman or Christain preacher?
Purpose
a. Txiv neeb's txoj luag hauj lwm ces tsuas yog los kho neeg ntiaj
teb tus ntsuj plig kom noj qab nyob zoo xwb. Yog tus neeg twg nws
tsis muaj mob ces yeej tsis mus cuag txiv neeb li. Txiv neeb yeej
tsis niaj hnub mus hais rau ntiaj tog qaum pes hasi tias nws txawv
neeb es kom neeg tuaj rau nws kho yuav nyiaj (make a living out of
it). Tus neeg mob ntawm mus thov nws es nws mam li ua neeb mus saib
thiab kho xwb. Shaman is just a spiritual healer, not a religion.
b. Xib fwb, ua yuav nyiaj. Niaj hnub mus txhias tus ub tus no los
nrag nws lub tsev teev ntuj. Ib lub listiam twg cov neeg ntseeg ntuj
ntawm yuav tsum muab nyiaj rau nws los ua ntuj tug. ib xyoo no, nws
cov pej xeem yuav tsum them li 10-15% ntawm nws cov cov pej xeem ntawm
khwv los rau nws (xib fwb) noj thiab siv rau lub tsev teev ntuj.
Christian is a religion.
Which makes more sense, do it as a need (shaman), or do it as duty
(christian)??
Lastly, NO ONE is born to be a sinner. As Buddha said "you are the
engineer of your own life". You can only control your own action.
Neither god nor other human can stop your hands, mouth, feet, and eyes
to act. A sinner must be earned to commit crime!!
So what is your respond to this discussion!!!
noogdlej
Hahahaaaa.......koj cav txais raug kawg hab laiv yom. Cov tuabneeg
kws siv hlwb ces luas nyeem tuab muag xwb luas tub txais raug lawm
tabsi cov kws siv ntivteg ntau ntawv xwb tseem ua dlev vwm tsej-j xwb
os.......
Koj puas paub sivyig ces kuv yawm has lug nruag rua kuv noog hastas,
nwg yeej yog ib tug ua neeb leej-j hab txawj khumob kawg nua es
fuabtais qaum ntuj txhaj tog nwg muag ua neeb rua sau qaum ntauj
lawm. Ntxwgnyoog sab pheem sab tsi zoo txawm muab nwg tug lub tug
ntsuj txa moog ua ib nyuas miv npua nua ov. Sov Sivyig los ua caag
yug tub yog ib yawm txivneeb keej kawg le tub tuaj nplajteb tuaj moog
khu mob rua qaum ntuj los tseem tsi paub ntxwgnyoog lub tswvyim le hab
tag. Nwg tsi paub ces nwg txawm muab nwg tug tub tug miv ntsuj kws
txwgnyoog muab txa ua ib nyuas npua coj lug tua khu neeg qaumntuj taag
hab muaj nwg tug tub cov qaj noj taag hab muab tej kua hau dlug lug
taag maam rov lug tsev hab nua naw.
Thaum lug txug ib ntaa ntuj ua caag yawd pum yawd tug tub lug tuab
nyuas ntsejmuag ntshau ntshuav mluag mlob txug ntawd. Nwg maam nug
ces nwg tug tub tub chim-m tshuav tuag ces maam pav txhua yaas rua
yawd hastas kuv nqaj koj noj taag kuv kua koj hau taag ces yawd maam
ntau hauv sab pes-poog xwb.....ua caag!
Haub yauj! thaum yawd nov kag hastas nyua nqau kws yawd muaj sawblawj
ntawd yog yawd nyuas tub ces yawg txhaj chim caj chim tuag rua
ntxwjnyoog los ua tsi tau dlaab tsi le lawm xwb. ces thaum ntawd,
yaws txhuaj pov ua nwg yawd tej nyuas tswbneeb nrov khij-khauj-lauj
dlua dlai nplajteb. Hab txhaj tsa chij rua zag hov lawm ne. Yawd
txhaj tshev hastas yog leejtwg ntshw ua neeb ces kavtsij coj moog ua
has txug yawd ces tsi kkk le lawm nua. Thaam ntau ces tua ntxwgnyoob
xwb nua tag.
Es yawd tub yog tug haib es ntxwgnyoog tseem dlaag tau yawd hab es tej
nyuas kws laam moog khaw tej tswbneeb kws yawb muab pov tseg lawm ho
muaj qaab ntxhab tug tsi os....
Tej nuav ces yog thaam lug nruag lug nriv-nrawv tso quav puv tog thawb
xwb os........
noogdlej
Yaj Tshaj Koob
Iha,
Siv Yis yeej ua tau tshaj Jesus thiab Buhda nkawm los mas, tab sis
lawv 3 tug ntawd puav leej txuas tsis taus lus rau sawv daws tim ncauj
tim lus lawm ces lawv 3 tug no kuj yog 3 tug dab loj uas neeg ntiaj
teb teev hawm niaj hnub no, kuv twb tau hais ntau ntau zaug tias tej
yam uas yus pe hawm tsis pom tus neeg ces yog hawm hu dab lawm no.
>...................................... Koj twb piav haistias Siv Yis mas tua dab
> haib kawg li no ne? Tsis yog tau cawd me ntsis lawm los ua cas tsam
> no hais lus tsis meej pem lawm?
Kuv piav Siv Yis tua dab yeej dab mas yog lub caij Siv Yis tseeg nrog
neeg ntiaj teb nyob, ua cas koj twb hais tias neeg ntseeg Vajtswv mas
hais lus zoo xwb no koj tseem hais txog tias puas yog kuv tau cawv me
ntsis hais lus tsis meej pem lawm no, qhov tsis meej pem yog lo lus
twg kiag?
> Tham qhov twg tham qhov ntawv xwb mas yuav. Yog yus tsis paub ces nug
> cov paub, yog yus hod paub lawm ces qhia cov tsis paub xwb. Txhob
> txawj-j sib ntuas thiab hais lus kom mob lwm tug mas.
Koj pos nco qab txog kj cov lus hais saum toj no lawm, puas yog koj
tau cawv me ntsis lawm los cas koj hnov qab koj cov lus lawm. Thiab
koj twb hais tias koj xav nrog kuv tham ntau yam txog Siv Yis no ua
cas koj ho nug ua dog ua dig li ntawd.
>........................................................................Kuv tseem xav
> xav nrog koj tham ntau yam txog qhov no tabsis pheej tsis tshua muaj
> sijhawm li.
Koj txhob hais txog qhov uas tsis muaj sij hawm, koj yuav hais li no
kom sawv daws hais tias koj mas thiaj yog neeg ua hauj lwm no uas kuv
los yeej yog neeg ua hauj lwm los ntev heev lawm thiaab, nyuam qhuav
so wb tsis tau muaj 1 xyoo no.
> ..............Ntse yuav tau mus thov nyiaj SSI noj es thiaj muaj
> sijhawm tuaj nrog koj sib tham haud no laus.
Koj twb yog neeg ntseeg Vajtswv koj tseem hais lus tuam mom koj niam
koj txiv koj cuab kwv tij nrog rau ib tsoom Hmoob uas tsis txawj ntse
thiab laus lawm, lawv noj SSI thiab, koj tus Vajtswv tsis tau qhia kom
koj hais lus phem rau koj tus yeeb ncuab los sis tus neeg koj tsis
nyiam, los sis tug neeg uas koj kov tsis yeej es koj hais rau li koj
cov lus tau hai dhau los lawm. Koj cov lus koj xav noog kuv tsis yog
koj xav paub es koj noog, yog koj noog kuv raws li koj txoj kev chim
siab, koj xav thom saib seb kuv puas yuav teb tau koj cov lus xwb, tab
sis koj tej lus nug kuv ces koj twb cuab tsis tau lub ntsiab lus coj
nug kuv li. Tsis tag li koj hais lus tas koj twb tsis nco koj cov lus
lawm.
Noogdlej,
Koj rov qab mus nyeem koj cov lus nram qab no saib koj puas tsim yog
ua koj tug Vajtswv ib tug neeg dawb huv ua tswv cuab rau koj tus
Vajtswv tso ov, koj hais tias
lha es.....
Hahahaaaa.......koj cav txais raug kawg hab laiv yom. Cov tuabneeg
kws siv hlwb ces luas nyeem tuab muag xwb luas tub txais raug lawm
tabsi cov kws siv ntivteg ntau ntawv xwb tseem ua dlev vwm tsej-j xwb
os......
Noogdlej kuv tuaj tav no rau hauv SCH no kuv tsis tau cem leej twg
tias Vwm li laiv, tsuas yog lwm tug cem tias Vwm no es kuv muab lawv
cov lus tig rov qab rau tug uas cem ntawd kom nws paub qhov Vwm yog
dab tsis xwb nawb koj rov mus tshawb tag nrho YTK cov post saib meb
YTK muab qhov kev ncaj ncees thiab muaj tseeb coj tuaj tham rau sawv
daws mas muaj tseeb. Ua li ne puas yog koj niaj hnub mus kawm
Vajlugkub Vajtswv cov lus qhia koj cem neeg tias ua dlev Vwm no los li
cas ne?
Thiab xav tias koj mas tshaj lij dhau qhov yuav ntseeg tau lawm laus,
koj li koj tsis siv ntiv tes ntau ntawv li, ntshe koj xuas ncauj
tshuab pa thiab hlwv xav xwb ces cia li autometic sau ntawv nrov nrij
nrawj rau koj siab li lawm pob, hais lus yuav tau hais kom txaus
ntseeg pauj, yuav nrog txiv neej zaum Xab Phas yuav tau hais us txiv
neej. Vajtswv cov neeg mas hais lus phem tag zog, ua cas yuav nkim XF
cov lus qhuab qhia ua luaj li, kawg yuav tau poob nkuaj taws lauv
Amen.
> Koj puas paub sivyig ces kuv yawm has lug nruag rua kuv noog hastas,
> nwg yeej yog ib tug ua neeb leej-j hab txawj khumob kawg nua es
> fuabtais qaum ntuj txhaj tog nwg muag ua neeb rua sau qaum ntauj
> lawm.
Kuv ntseeg hais tias koj yawg tsis txawj txog Siv Yis zaj keeb kwm no,
koj lam muab koj yawm lub npe coj los tso rau kom zoo mloog xwb qhov
tseeb zaj keeb kwm Siv Yis no muaj tsawg leej neeg mas thiaj paub
txog, yog tias hnov Siv Yis lub npe mas kuv ntseeg tias tej zaum txhua
tus yuav hnov, kuv yeej ib txwm hais tias ua neeg yus tsis txhob dag
yus tus kheej, luag tsis paub tab sis koj tug Vajtswv ntuj paub koj
hais li cas.
>...........Ntxwgnyoog sab pheem sab tsi zoo txawm muab nwg tug lub tug
> ntsuj txa moog ua ib nyuas miv npua nua ov.
Kuv yeej hais tias tuaj tim roob phuv xev tuaj no muaj tiag los pob,
ua cas koj pom kuv zaj dab neeg tag ces koj yawm txawm siv muaj ib zaj
lug nruag Siv Yis hais qhia koj thaum ub thiab mas kuv tsis paub xav
li lawm lauj, Kuv zaj yog Nyuj, koj zaj yog npua txaus luag tiag tiag.
Ua neeg mas yus taug kev yuav saib yus tus hneev taw, plom kev yuav
saib txoj lw.
> Haub yauj! thaum yawd nov kag hastas nyua nqau kws yawd muaj sawblawj
> ntawd yog yawd nyuas tub ces yawg txhaj chim caj chim tuag rua
> ntxwjnyoog los ua tsi tau dlaab tsi le lawm xwb. ces thaum ntawd,
>yaws txhuaj pov ua nwg yawd tej nyuas tswbneeb nrov khij-khauj-lauj
> dlua dlai nplajteb. Hab txhaj tsa chij rua zag hov lawm ne. Yawd
> txhaj tshev hastas yog leejtwg ntshw ua neeb ces kavtsij coj moog ua
> has txug yawd ces tsi kkk le lawm nua. Thaam ntau ces tua ntxwgnyoob
> xwb nua tag.
Hais lus li koj cov lus saum no yog lus hnov luag tej hais ces lam
hais tsis muaj qab muaj luag, kuv ntseeg tias koj tuaj hnov hauv SCH
no xwb, ntau leej muabpaiv ua qeej tshuab los ntuas, koj thiaj lam
hais ua tab ua tauv li no, leej twg nyeem tag ces twb paub tias tus
neeg dag nyob qhov twg lawm. Koj hais raws kev chim, kev hais tsis
yeej lwm tus, koj cov lus hais los neeg tsis paub lub ntsiab lus tias
koj hais dab tsi. Lam tau lam cem li ub li no. Koj tej lug tsis muaj
qaab hau, lub caij ntawd SIV YIS puab nim paub lug eeskiv thiab los
cas no es ho tias tsi kkk no ne thiaj yog koj tuaj tim roob dag tuaj
lawm tiag tiag li.
> Es yawd tub yog tug haib es ntxwgnyoog tseem dlaag tau yawd hab es tej
> nyuas kws laam moog khaw tej tswbneeb kws yawb muab pov tseg lawm ho
> muaj qaab ntxhab tug tsi os....
Koj xav koj saib los mas Jesus twb ua tau npaum tseem raug noob neej
muab ntsia ua daj tes thiab ne, Before you said something, don't
forget your own Jesus and how much Jesus obey with your evil word.
YTK
cwjmem
Zag nuav tsis zoo le zag u lawm ov. Koj yuav tsaug dlob plaub kuas
lab qaab tsuas lau!!! Yawm Tshaj los yeej yuav tso koj cov pluab
kuas taag, ho yawm Iha los yeej yuav muab koj txav tis kag xwb...Vaaj
tswv los yuav tsis yuav koj, Siyig los yuav tis pov hwm ko, tes dlaab
ntswg nyug yuav naj nub lawv koj kuas tau lug ua nwg cov "LARB" lawm
xwb tag, he he he !!! Kuv yuav tsis txav koj cov plaub lawm nawb.....
lha
noogdlej aw,
You really crack me up. Koj hais tau funny kawg li, ua rau kuv luag-g
kua muag kua ntswg los tag lis. Kuv kuj tsis paub txog Siv Yis zoo
thiab, qhov kuv paub ces me me xwb similar to what you said earlier.
Li no es kuv thiaj nug tijlaug YTK kom nws qhia rau kuv.
YTK,
Ua cas zoo li ntu no koj nyaum ua luaj tuaj li lawm? Leejtwg hais dab
tsi tuaj los zoo li tsis ntxim koj siab li sub as. Tus hais tuaj los
mag cem / yws, tus hov tsis hais li DU los mag cem / yws tibsi thiab.
Ua siab ntev mentsis yeejmeem qhia tuaj kom sawvdaws thiaj paub txog
Siv Yis zoo mas. Kuv tseem muaj more questions to ask you. Ua siab
ntev tos nawb. Thaum twg kuv xyeej caij kuv li mam nug koj.
Cwjmem,
You are correct in every way. Koj mas hais yog kawg nkaus li lawm
nawb. Mar 2:17 "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.
I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
lha
lha
lha
noogdlej aw,
You really crack me up. Koj hais tau funny kawg li, ua rau kuv luag-g
kua muag kua ntswg los tag lis. Kuv kuj tsis paub txog Siv Yis zoo
thiab, qhov kuv paub ces me me xwb similar to what you said earlier.
Li no es kuv thiaj nug tijlaug YTK kom nws qhia rau kuv.
Cwjmem,
You are correct in every way. Koj mas hais yog kawg nkaus li lawm
nawb. Mar 2:17 "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the
sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
YTK,
Kuv pheej tsis muaj sijhawm tuaj nrog nej sib tham li ces, cia kuv
conclude kuv qhov kev xav txog Siv Yis. Txhob ua nyaum-m tuaj ov,
qhov no tsuas yog kuv li kev xav xwb.
Kuv xav haistias txog txij peb Hmoob muaj zaj dabneeg no hais txog Siv
Yis los nws yeej yuavtsum muaj peb thiaj li hais tau. Tabsis qhov big
question mas yog, pos muaj npaum li qhov koj hais? Of course,
everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. Kuv tsuas yog hais txog kuv
qhov xwb.
Kuv ntseeg haistias koj zaj Siv Yis story no mas yog fiction xwb and
it is a children’s story like the Wizard of Oz, Toys Story,
Cinderella, Snow White, Beauty and The Beast, so on… You see,
menyuam yaus thiaj li nyiam mloog tej zaj zoo li no thiab thiaj li
tsis ask tough questions. Koj pos nco thaum koj muaj pestsawg xyoo
koj pog koj yawg lawv qhia zaj story no rau koj? Kuv ntseeg tau tias
nws tsis yog thaum koj twb muaj hnub nyoog 20, 30 or 40 lawm es koj
mam hnov. Koj hnov thaum koj tseem yaus-s ib yam li peb sawvdaws.
Peb cov laus no leejtwg los yeej hnov zaj no tabsis hnov thaum peb
tseem yaus-s xwb. Zaj koj hnov yeej txawv zog zaj kuv hnov, vice
versa. I know you’re going to disagree with me on this but that is
understandable. And as always, I expected a retaliation from you
against my Savior because of the comments I made on your gullible
story.
It gets funnier when you described how the universe was created. The
toast spits out the suns, the moons, and the stars, bla, bla, bla.
Let me ask you for a honest answer, do you really believe this crap?
Lol… Besides DU, Hollywood might be the only other party who's
interested in this.
lha
ilik...@yahoo.com
Kheev kuv lam muaj sij hawm ntau npaum li koj es niaj hnub tuaj sau
ntawv sis cav tsis paub xaus nyob hauv no txhua txhua lub xuaj moos
ntshe kuv yuav ua tib zoo prove ib qho zuj zus rau koj saib koj pus
yuav pom kev tuaj zog. Tiamsid kuv kawm tau thiab pom hais tias koj
tus neeg mas tsis lam yuav leej twg hais ib qho lus li tab txawm tus
ntawd nws hais twb yog yog thiab zoo zoo yuav li lawm. Koj yeej xav
hais tias koj yeej paub dua lwm tus thiab koj tib tug thiaj yog tseem
"laus neeg" hos koj ntseeg hais tias lwm tus mas yog "neeg laus" xwb.
Koj sim coj mus pw xav qhov koj hais tias koj thiaj yog "laus neeg"
lwm tus ces yog "neeg laus" xwb.
Li cas los kuv tsis yog tuaj thuam thiab tuaj nrog koj sis cav sis ceg
kom yeej swb nyob hauv no nrog koj. Kuv xav hais tias ua cas koj twb
claimed koj tus kheej haistias yog ib tug "laus neeg" tsis yog "neeg
laus" no es tseem tsis paub hais tias niaj hnub nim no, ntiaj teb muaj
tsab peev xwm thiab muaj high tech siab tshaj los tshawb los tsim ub
tsim no. Niaj hnub no yeej tsis tau muaj ib tug neeg tshawb pom hais
tias phav xyoo dhau los no muaj ib tug Shamanic Hmoob hu ua "Tooj
Nchai Sis Yis" no muaj super shamanic power los tua cov "dab" saum
ntuj thiab ntiaj teb no tuag lawm tu noob tshuav qee leej "dab" xwb.
With the high tech helps, no one ever proved that thousand years ago
there was a planet located very close distance to the planet earth and
existed human kind who lived there and had commication back and forth
with human kind on the earth. don't you know that the closest object
to the earth is the "MOON" which human kind today can't even travel
through air back and forth to the "MOON" like your Shamanic Hmoob
"Tooj Nchai Siv Yis". Worse, no one can't even prove that "MOON"
existed any form of life things or any bacteria.
You seemed to indicate yourself that you believe only facts and reals
because you challenged me to show you my other Siv Yis stories in
compare to yours. You indicated that yours is so true with no
exageration added. You even challenged me for 1 month if I can prove
that your story is copied from any of The Hmoob Dab Neeg books. You
are real fool Yajtshajkoob. I don't need to prove you any thing
because a fool like you will never take any words from others, but let
me challenge you about the proof that you can prove documents written
thousands of years ago that your super power shamanic Hmoob "Tooj
Nchai Siv Yis" existed as claimed by you. You even said Shamanic
Hmoob "Tooj Nchai Siv Yis" was more powerful than Jesus, Budha,
Mohamed, and VP the one whom you hate most , but I challenge you that
these people who you paid no respect but there are thousand books and
documents written about their greatness had some kind of super healing
power and words of wisdoms impact on today reality.
Yajtk, another thing, when I stated in Hmong words and let me
paraphrase my statement again in English here for you. "I said in the
old days, people on earth believed that the earth was flat. The sun
rised from the north horizon and travelled across on top of the flat
earth and set on the south horizon. However today, we know from fact
that the sun always remains stationary, but the earth will take 1 year
to rotate around the sun for a complete round and 1 day to rotake
itself." You couldn't grasp and comprehend the analogy and then
claimed "Koj ob qhos no mas kuv tsis nkag siab li, Ua Cas lub ntiaj
teb khiav cig lub hnub 1 xyoos thiaj los txog qhov qub, ho nws ho tig
ncig nws ib hnub thiaj los txog qhov qub thiab, koj kawm hais tau
txawv ua luaj li. puas yog lub ntiaj teb ncig 24 teev rov los txog
qhov qub thiab ncig 8640 tauj ib lub xyoo no maj, ntshai koj yuav tau
kawm dua pob." What the heck you are trying to say. Are you saying
the earth takes 24 hours to rotake around the sun for a complete round
and will rotate around the sun 8640 times in a year or what? You are
real fool and know nothing about reality. If you don't know, I
recommend that just take what I told you here. Go ask your sons and
daughters who have educated in this country and come back and prove to
me in this forum that I am wrong about the sun and the earth ratation.
Yawg Yajtk, I shouldn't even try to explain any thing to a person who
has no logical understand with reality. Most of your talks are based
on your own primative information which has no use in today reality,
perhaps you and some still believe like that only.
Yaj Tshaj Koob
lha,
It make me slothful to answer your question and interval of time, if
Siv Yis yog fiction. Than Jesus also fiction either.
I give you example, I give thanks to Christ Jesus and Siv Yis our
lord who has given me strength for my work. I think him for
considering me worthy and appointing me to serve both, even though in
the past I spoke evil of both and persecuted and insulted both. But
God was merciful to me because I did not yet have faith and so did not
know what I was doing. And our Lord poured out his abundant grace on
me and gave me the faith and love which are our in union with Sivyis
and Christ Jesus. This is a true saying, to be completely accepted and
believed; Siv Yis and Christ Jesus came into the world to save
sinners.
YTK
lha
Are you out of your mind or trying to confuse me? Didn't you just
call Jesus a dab and a fiction character? Why thanks him now? For
what, if he is not real and a dab? I think you need help.
lha
noogdlej
I totally agreed with you. Well said.
Chinse muaj ib qhov proverb hastas, " you cannot push a cow's head
down unless it is drinking water by it's own will."
Tug tuabneeg kws tsi xaav kawm tsi xaav paub ces nkim lug xwb. Thaum
twg nwg qhes dlej nwg maam moog nrhav nwg. Txhob nkim sijhawm. Koj
yim nrug nwg caam ces koj cale zoo le nwg lawm xwb.
noogdlej
cwjmem
Hold your horse brother! This is an educated discussion. Don't take
it personally.
Noogdlej,
Koj tsis ntsai tsam puab muab koj cov tis, hab plaub tsu es koj yuv
yaav tsis tau qho twg le los!!!
tseemyeej
On Oct 14, 7:08 pm, iliki...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Yawg Yajtk,
> Kheev kuv lam muaj sij hawm ntau npaum li koj es niaj hnub tuaj sau
> ntawv sis cav tsis paub xaus nyob hauv no txhua txhua lub xuaj moos
.Kuv nyeem koj thawj cov lus mas yam li koj kuj hais tau tuaj
nruabnrab ntug kawg lawm. Kuv tseem yuav sau tuaj qhuas koj nahas,
Hahaha...ua cas txawm siv ntausntxwmmem muaj ceem ua luaj lawm naj?
Zoo qhov koj tsis ev koj daim me title tuaj hauv no li dlauvtawm
povthoj xaivkaub os yom. Muaj title lawm ses tsis txhob lam tau lam
short temper li peb cov tsis muaj quavdev no laiv.
Kuv saib koj chim kawg lawm laiv, ua zoo tsam koospitawj kubhnyiab ov.
Anyway, koj tsis totaub Iha lub hom phiaj xwb, nws thiab noovdlej
nkawd tabtom tried to make fun of YTK xwb nav. They never intent to
learn anything from YTK at all.
TseemYeej.
Tony
ualuaj le.
Zoo ntau nawb! Zoo ntau qha txug hastas, suavdlawg yeej ntseeg lawv
le nyag pum nyag rua sau neej hab ntseeg rua huv nruabsab, nruabthab
(camteb moog rua saab ntuj ntsujplig). Feem coob yeej pum lawv le sau
neej nuav xwb (scientific explanation). Feem tsawg yeej pum zezuag ua
nyuj quav yaw neeg zig (pam neej pam dlaab) kuas paub tsi meej losyog
feeb tsi meej le.
Phem ntau nawb! Phem ntau txhais hastas, tug tuabneeg kws pum txawv
le suavdlawg pum yeej pum nyob rua huv nwg lub sab, paajhlwb, laajxeeb
hastas nwg le txhajle yog xwb. Rua ntawm tug tuabneeg ntawd mas luas
tej puavleej tsi yog taagnrhov huvtuabsi. Nwg tuableeg le xwb txhajle
yog. (Qhov nuav txhais tau lawm hastas, nwg yog ib tug Schizophrenia
lawm.
Txawyog peb yuav has sau neej nuav npaum lecaag (neeg laug; laug neeg)
los yeej tsi hloov tug tuabneeg ntawd lub laajxeeb le). Txawm yog tug
kws meejpem txha yuav npautawg npaum lecaag los tug tuabneeg ntawd tsi
pum, tsi paub, ces koj phua hlwb rua noj le tej laug has los yeej tsi
hloov tug tuabneeg ntawd lub hlwv, kevxaav, hab kevntseeg le. Qhov
ntawd tsi tau txhais hastas nwg tsi nyob rua sau neej nuav. Nwg tsuas
txhais hastas tug tuabneeg ntawd cev nqaj dlawm ntawv cajsa rua sau
neej tamsis nwg tug ntsuj hab lub cev sis humxeeb (incongruence) lawm
xwb.
Christian and Traditionalis will never agree with each other. The
difference is that traditional has a long history (verbal history
only). Its history became myth (nyob rua sau fuabcua) because of the
lack of our written language. It was the result of our wishful
thinking (belief). Christianity has its strong and weakness as well
(for Hmong only). The strength is that, Christian sought salvation,
an everlasting life with the creator. The weakness is that, Christian
inherit all that the traditionalist has. He or she is not that much
different other than the word "dlaab teb and ntuj ceebtsheej." Dlaab
teb represents the suffering and nashing of teeth (ntuj txag teb
tsaus, ntuj qhuav teb nkig). Heaven represents the joy of an
everlasting life and peaceful with teh creator (same as a dad who is
always there to protect you.)
We as Hmong (Traditional and Christian alike) are still Hmong. We are
in the state of confusion. Until the dust settle, the air is cleared,
and we come to our senses of where we are, the fighting (nyuj quav
xyaw neeg zig) as the elders had said will never go away.
kwvtijhmoob
> We as Hmong (Traditional and Christian alike) are still Hmong. We are
> in the state of confusion. Until the dust settle, the air is cleared,
> and we come to our senses of where we are, the fighting (nyuj quav
> xyaw neeg zig) as the elders had said will never go away.
tony-- we need to stop these non-sense excuses. "oh.. because we
don't know, oh.. because we are the old gangs, oh.. because we are not
educated enough, oh... because we are just in the transitional stage,
oh.. because of this and that" what a bull .sh...! the fact of the
matter is that hmong are smart enough, educated enough and know
enough. hmong know exactly who, what and where they are. but in
million years hmong just can't agree, period.
ilik...@yahoo.com
Txiv Ntxawm Tseemyeej,
Txhob muab kuv ua Yawg Hlob no vim kuv yog koj cov tub thiab koj twb
yog txiv ntxawm lawm. Zoo li kuv twb nco hais tias Txiv Tub Pos thiab
Txiv Pheej Lis neb yog ib phaj no sav. Yog koj yog Txiv Tub Pos thiab
Txiv Pheej tib phaj no ces koj yog lawm txiv thiab tej zaum kuv txiv
yuav hlob koj thiab saib koj pus hlob Txiv Tub Pos xwb. Yog koj yog
phaj tub ntawm Txiv Tub Pos lawv cov txiv no ces koj thiab kuv yog
kwvtij tiamsid kuv ntseeg hais tias hnub nyoog kuv yuav yau zog koj
vim kuv muaj 47 xyoo xwb.
Tsis tag li kuv tsis muaj ib lub title loj, thiab muaj meej mom li
luag lwm leej lwm tus cov pheej tuaj tuaj hauv no xws li Koj, YTK,
Cwjmem, Tony, Phwv, Born, Faj, Dr. Pov thiab coob coob tus. Kuv yog
niag "neeg laus" xwb tsis yog "laus neeg" kawm ntawv tiav GED thiab ho
ua hauj lwm nrhiav noj me ntsis tom packaging assembly line xwb.
Kuv tsis chim thiab yuav mobsiab es yuav mus ua rau computer kub
nyhiab li koj ua txiv ntxawm xav. Kuv cov lus teb rau Yawg Yajtk yeej
nchav zog tiamsid kuv tsis mobsiab. Kuv tsuas xav stress kuv cov lus
rau Yawg Yajtk kom yawg to taub hais tias zoo li tsuas pom yawg mas
hais lus ua phab ua pheev tsis mloog luag lwm leej lwm tus tej tswv
yim hais kiag li. Yawg nyiam sis cav ua tsheej phab tsheej pheev
ntxiv tag ntxiv tshiab xwb. Kuv to taub lub zos no tsis yog rooj kev
tuav tswv yim rau ib qho tseem ceeb hauv lub neej, tiamsid some how
yog lwm tus hais yog thiab raug lawm, kuj cia li txhawb thiab nqua hu
kom sawv daws yuav lub tswv yim ntawd xwb thiaj li muaj chaw mus.
Ua tsaug koj ceevfaj rau kuv kom txhob rawm maj hais lus nchav.
Yaj Tshaj Koob
Kwv lha,
Koj xij xav tias Yis Yis yog dab los sis neeg xev tswv yim hais li
ntawd, Jesus thiaj yog Vajtswv thiab tseem zoo li tib neeg no, qhov no
koj xav yuam lawm, koj puas paub tias nej hu ua Vajtswv, peb hu ua
Yawm Saub, koj ua ib zoo xav saib maj leej twg peb noob neej naj mu
pom saum ntuj ceeb tsheej. qhov koj kuv pom yog tom roob toj ntxas.
Kuv yeej paub tias koj tsis yog xav paub txog SIV YIS, koj xav muab
Siv Yis lub koob hais rau qhov phem li uas koj tsis yog Hmoob, Kuv
ntseeg tias koj yog tus more need help. Tus neeg xav paub tiag tiag
ces kuj xav piav rau, kuv thiab koj mas koj xij xav tias nyob kem deb
ib yam li lub ntuj thiab daim av lawm, Siv Yis cov neeg nyob hauv av,
ho Jesus cov neeg mas nyob saum ntuj li ntawd. Koj nyeem Xib Fwb iliki
cov lus hauv qab no, ces koj paub tias kuv xav li cas lawm.
> Yawg Yajtk, I shouldn't even try to explain any thing to a person who
> has no logical understand with reality.
Koj yog tus neeg xav paub mas koj tham lus xwb leej twg los yeej paub,
koj hais ua si los neeg yeej paub.
> YTK,
> Ua cas zoo li ntu no koj nyaum ua luaj tuaj li lawm? Leejtwg hais dab
> tsi tuaj los zoo li tsis ntxim koj siab li sub as.
Koj yuav tsum mus nyeem zoo zoo kom nkag siab tso koj mam hais lo lus
saum no, koj tsuas pom thaum kuv teb hais rov qab rau nej xwb, koj
tsis pom thaum nej hais cov lus rau kuv li. Tsis yog kuv tsis paub
hais lus tsis yog kuv ua nyaum li koj hais, yog kuv hais nej cov lus
rov qab rau nej ces zoo li ntawd. Nej muab ib txiaj rau kuv kuv yuav
tau muab ib txiaj them rov qab thiab. Koj muab ua tib zoo nyeem kuv
tej lus saib mad yog yuav ua rau kom peb muaj democracy xwb tiag.
Noogdlej,
Koj txawj hais lus kawg yuam, txawm yog zoo li koj hais ram qab no
ntag los mas, tos hais tias hais tsis sib haum naj,
> Tug tuabneeg kws tsi xaav kawm tsi xaav paub ces nkim lug xwb. Thaum
> twg nwg qhes dlej nwg maam moog nrhav nwg. Txhob nkim sijhawm. Koj
> yim nrug nwg caam ces koj cale zoo le nwg lawm xwb.
Ua cas koj hais li uas koj mas muaj nqis thiab nyhav tshaj plaws, koj
cov lus saum toj no twb siv tsis tau lawm ne, koj xav tias yog lus no
lov, ua cas koj rab nriam yuav zuag ua luaj li, koj yuav tau kawm
thiab nyob li ib tug neeg ntseeg Vajtswv thiaj yog. Koj hais li uas
kuv tseem yog me nyuam yau no, koj paub tsis txog txoj kev kawm no kuv
li qhia koj li no, Tus neeg tseem kawm txuj ci yog pib thaum 18 xyoo
mus txog ntua thaum 35 xyoo ntawd yog kawm txuj ci, tus neeg 50 nce
mus txog rau 70 caum xyoo ntu no yog koj lub neej kev txawj kev paub
lub cuab yig tsis tau tiav, tseem tsis tau muaj li hais no ces koj
txhob tos lawm, qhov koj tos ces yog tos mus nrog dab nyob thiab mus
txheeb dua ntawv li rov los thawj dua thiab ua neeg.
Kwv Cwjmem,
Ua tsaug rau koj cov lus nawb, yeej yog kev kawm kev sib qhia li koj
hais. neeg hais lus li no ces kawg yuav tau them cov lus rov qab rau
nws thiab, iliki cov lus li nram no.
> ......................... YTK zaj mas kuv ntseeg hais tias tsis yog yawg cim
> hais ntawm ncauj thiab hlwb, yog yawg copy hauv ib phau ntawv dab neeg
> sau zoo tseg lawm thiab yawg coj los paste rau hauv no rau peb nyeem
> xwb vim cov lus hais muab teeb tau zoo zoo thiaj teeb tau muaj muaj
> chaw txawb tsis hais rov qab rov quav.
Yog hais li no ces leej twg los yuav tau pay back rau nws thiab mas
thiaj tag ne, tsis yog nyob nyob es kuv lam hais iliki li ntawd. hais
txog Noogdlej ces nws lam zuag toj zuag peg xyov nws puas paub tias
nws hais dab tsis rau luag tej, nws xij xav hais tias nws cov lus mas
hais tau mos thiab zoo kawg no uas, nws cov lus mas tuaj pos kawg, twb
tsis zoo li tus neeg ntseeg Vajtswv, nws zoo li tus neeg ntseeg nyiaj.
> ........................................................ Yog cim ntawm hlwb thiab lub
> ncauj xwb, cov lus hais yuav muaj qhov tom ntej tom qab.
iliki, hais cov lus saum no ne, tos kuv hais tias nws tsis paub ib yam
dab tsis hauv Hmoob kab lis kev cai naj, iliki twb tsis paub txog tias
Hmoob li txuj ci yog leej twg kawm tsis tau rau hauv lu hlwb hauv
nruab siab ces tus ntawd yeej tsis muaj cuab kav mus sawv rog luag
hais zaj haiv ib zaug li nawb. Thiab kuv yeej paub tias nws yog neeg
ntseeg Vajtswv nws lam muab qhov xaus kawg nram qab hais li nram no
tias...
> 5. Qhov kuv tu siab tshaj yog cov neeg mus ntseeg Christian pheej los
> cem thiab thuam los lus "DAB" no rau peb cov kwvtij Hmoob.
Tej no nws yuav zais roj zais hneev kom yus tsis txhob paub nws lub
tswv yim no uas. iliki yog neeg coj dab no nws tseem yuav hais cov
lusli nram no...
> ................................................................Kuv tsis ntseeg
> hais tias Siv Yis mas txawj thiab ua tau npaum li zaj dab neeg hais.
> Zaj dab neeg yog neeg pheej muab txua ntxiv ib txheej dhau ib txheej
> hais.
Tooj Nchai Siv Yis tsev neeg uas tseem coj nws li txuj ci kev neeb,
lawv yuav tsis hais cov lus li iliki hais los aum no. Kuv piav txog
Tooj Nchai Siv Yis mas kuv piav raws nraim li Siv Yis tau tua dab
thiab tua neej es peb tsob Hmoob thiaj muaj tus vij dab vij npog, vij
sub vij sw no los thib los ntuas yam phem pov tseg, yog tsis muaj
tseeb, Hmoob lam dag xev xwb, Hmoob yuav tsis lwm qaib, tsis ntxug
sub, ntxug tauj, lyog tsis muaj leej twg yuav xav ua tej no-no, tej
kuv tham no twb yog ib qhov tim khawv uas peb pom tseeb tias muaj
tseeb es Hmoob thiaj tseem tau ua raws li qhov Siv Yis tau ua los
lawm.
Tseemyeej,
Ua tsaug rau koj, koj nyeem thiab ntes tau neeg lub hlwb zoo kawg,
iliki yog neeg thoob tsib tos nrog ces nws lam yuav hais cov lus li
nram no, nws twb tsis paub qhov nws hais luag thuam luag ua ntej lawm
es luag li sau tig nws cov ncauj lus rov qab rau nws los nws tseem twb
tsis paub qees.
> ....................................................You even said
Shamanic
> Hmoob "Tooj Nchai Siv Yis" was more powerful than Jesus, Budha,
> Mohamed, and VP the one whom you hate most , but I challenge you that
> these people who you paid no respect but there are thousand books and
> documents written about their greatness had some kind of super healing
> power and words of wisdoms impact on today reality.
Yam uas twb hais tsis yog lawm es leej twg yuav respect tau tej yam
li ntawd no, ntawm VP mas tsuas yog piav qhov VP ua xwb ov, tseem twb
piav tsis tau ntxaws thiab ne, tseem tshuav qhov uas VP tso yawg Nyiaj
Lwm Vaj dub thiab Npliaj Yob Thoj uas yog Vp tus yawm yij mus tos kev
tua Major Ly Fwm uas yog Lis Pej txiv tom ntug nras thiab yog muab
piav ntsaws mas muaj ntau qhov phem, tej ntawd yog VP keeb kwm xwb
tsis tau yog hate VP.
> .......................................... I don't need to prove you any thing
> because a fool like you will never take any words from others, but let
> me challenge you about the proof that you can prove documents written
> thousands of years ago that your super power shamanic Hmoob "Tooj
> Nchai Siv Yis" existed as claimed by you.
Nej ntsias saib maj tus neeg muaj educate yuav tsis siv cov lus li nws
hais no, tus neeg nyeem iliki cov lus tag ces luag yeej paub tias tus
neeg fool yog leej twg lawm, Hmoob hais tias pos kaus raj tsis yuav
hliav neeg ntse tsis yuav piav los yeej paub. nplog ib txwm yeej hais
tias "hub naas xwm tej npuaj mis qhuas hub," ces yog li no ntag.
iliki nim hais cuag li uas nws tsis yog Hmoob, es nws nqis puag dua
saum ib lub ntuj qhov twg los txog es luag tej muaj tag ho Hmoob Tooj
Nchai Siv Yis cov neeg tsis muaj. iliki rab riam mas tseem yuav tau
muab hov tiag tiag mas thiaj zoo siv nawb, txhob rawm tawm dej txias
yij meem tuaj hnov thiab tam kom ntse ntse li coj mus siv thiaj zoo
siv, yog zoo li tam sim no xwb ces zoo li yawg iliki xuas qwb ntau dua
li xuas hniav. Ua neeg yus twb tsis paub tias yus nyob qhov twg lawm
ces tas hauv ris li Hmoob hais lawm laus cov neeg Dr. toj siab aw! Nws
twb tsis paub tias "nws tug kheej qiv luag mem sau ntawv, qiv luag
ntawv kawm," es tseem tuaj hais rov quav rov qees li ntawd thiab nav.
Rab riam yuav ntse yuav taug yuav tsum muaj zoo kws hlau.
Tony
koj txuj kev tshab txais nraag nuav yeej yog lawm.
> xawyog peb yuav has sau neej nuav npaum lecaag (neeg laug; laug neeg)
> los yeej tsi hloov tug tuabneeg ntawd lub laajxeeb le)
Neeg lub neej tsis yooj yim suav dlawg ib txhia hiaj ua poj nrauj yawg
nrauj tag lawm, vim ua neej tsis mus raws li siab xav. tsis xav mus
ib yam, nyias pom nyias dua ib qhov zoo. qhov zoo ces txawm qhov twg
yam twg los tsuas sib nrawg xwb yuav tsis muaj tug tshaj tsis muaj tug
luv.
YTK
Yaj Tshaj Koob
cwjmem
Yuav tau zam ntxim rau cov ruam cuab ntse thiab. Tib neeg muaj 3 hom:
1. Tus Ruam (qog luag ua xwb)
2. Ruam cuab nte (hais/ua tsis yog lawm los nws yeej cam/hais tias nws
yog)
3. Ntse ( cia luag ua es nws mam li coj los xav, qhov yog nws khaws
tseg, qhov tsis yog nws muab tso cia)
After all, this is a group discussion...don't take too serious!!
Tony
Ua le caag yuav npau heev ua luaj le. "but in
million years hmong just can't agree, period," what are you going to
do about it? Get mad, get, angry, and get even as always.?
kwvtijhmoob
tony-- haj..haj..haj...no, you thought me wrong, bro!. I am not angry
at all. I was simply telling you the fact that hmong just couldn't
agree 5000 years ago, can't agree today and will still can't agree in
the next million years. so we must stop the childish excuses. we all
need to learn to act like a mature and educated man and admit that
this is just the way hmong are.
lha
YTK,
Ua cas yuav chim siab ua luaj mas, kuv yeej xav paub kuv thiaj li nug
koj hos. Yus yog tus paub tab lawm ces yuav tau qhia rau cov tsis paub
thiab, tsis txhob pheej muab luag cov lus tig rov qab los tom luag. Ib
yam li koj pheej muab Vajtswv thiab Yesxus tig rov los tom kuv. Ib qho
ob qho los Vajtswv / Yesxus twb hais li no, hais li tov ne, bla, bla,
bla. Yog koj ua li no ces kuv thwm haistias koj tag tswvyim lawm xwb.
Kuv qhov post no tsis yog hais txog Yesxus los leejtwg, but Siv Yis.
>
> It make me slothful to answer your question and interval of time, if
> Siv Yis yog fiction. Than Jesus also fiction either.
>
> I give you example, I give thanks to Christ Jesus and Siv Yis our
> lord who has given me strength for my work. I think him for
> considering me worthy and appointing me to serve both, even though in
> the past I spoke evil of both and persecuted and insulted both. But
> God was merciful to me because I did not yet have faith and so did not
> know what I was doing. And our Lord poured out his abundant grace on
> me and gave me the faith and love which are our in union with Sivyis
> and Christ Jesus. This is a true saying, to be completely accepted and
> believed; Siv Yis and Christ Jesus came into the world to save
> sinners.
Li cas los xij, kuv xav paub haistias uas cas koj hov hais tau cov lus
saum no tawm tuaj. Pos yog koj sau los yog leejtwg siv koj tus account
sau es ua txuj haistias yog koj xwb no mas? Thov koj sim qhia rau peb
seb yog vim li cas koj thiaj li hais tau cov lus no tawm tuaj.
Tam li kuv tau nrog koj sib tham hauv no mas koj yeej yog ib tug
tawmtsam Yesxus tag mus li xwb, tabsis tsam no koj hov los hais li no
lawm es yog vim li cas tiag? Pos yog koj los repent koj tej kev txhaum
yav tag los rau nws?
TY & Cwjmeem,
Kuv tsis tau hnov neb teb tuaj haistias neb ntseeg los tsis tseeg YTK
zaj Siv Yis story no. Could you be sooooo kind and provide us your
insight? Your answers could boast YTK’s ego and calm him down.
lha
Tony
different way. We knew where we are; we wished to be some where else;
and we ignored that we have issues. We wanted to be left alone, and
yet at the same time, we wanted to be pampered.
Doing it is a very tidious work; talking is a very easy work; that is
the way we like it.
tseemyeej
Yog koj hais liko no ces wb yog ib phaj xwb os. kuv txiv PajTsab, txiv
TubPos thiab txiv Pheej yog ib phaj. Kuv txiv yog yawg Vws tub, txiv
TubPos yog yawg NyiajLooj tub, txiv Pheej yog yawg SuavTuam tub. Peb
puav leej yog yawg NyiajVws cov xeebntxwv. Thaum tawg SuavTeb los,
lawv muaj 3 kwvtij xws li yog yawg TshuasNplooj, yawg NyiajVws, yawg
ZamLaum.
Hais txog hnub nyoog ces, tshuav tsis ntev kuv twb yuav mus retired
lawm laud, Ua li koj ne, ho yog pab twg?
Tham txog kev sib cav hauv lub tebchaws SCH no mas, kuv nyiam tuaj
heev vim kuv xav kawm kom kuv paub kuv tus kheej zoo tshaj qub thiab
kom paub sawvdaws seb thaum hais phem ho phem luaj twg? thiab thaum
hais zoo ne ho zoo li cas? Lub sijhawm twg mam hais lus phem, lub
sijhawm twg ho hais lus zoo. Tus hais phem los kuv cim tseg, khaws mus
xav thiab cais kom meej, cais "neej nyob neej dab nyob dab", nyob-b
tejzaum ho tau rho qhov phem ntawd los siv ua tshuaj. Tus ho hais zoo
los kuv kuj cim tseg tib yam nkaus, khaws mus xav kom thoob thiab cais
kom meej, nyob-b tejzaum ho tau rho qhov zoo ntawd los siv ua tshuaj
tau tib yam nkaus. Tej zaum luag hais chwv npliag xwb, mob tsis heev,
yus tseem thab kom luag hais kom tiv qia nkaus seb qhov dose ntawd
muaj kuab txog qib twg. Poison could be medicine if you know how.
Txhob txhawj, yog paubsiv ces tej kev tuaj sib cav hauv no yog ib kuab
tshuaj khov yus tej rojntsha kom khiav zoo txhob mob stroke xwb.
Ncontsoov tias stress yog ib txoj haukev rau kabmob nkag los
rhuavtshem yus txoj sia. Tabsis yog yus txawj siv no ces stress kuj
yog ib hautshuaj thiab. Tib yam li tejlaus cog qoobnyeg rau yus lub
nrog cev kom thaum qoobqus los ces yus lub cev twb tsim tau tshuaj
tivthaiv yus tus kheej lawm.
About religious conflicts, blood had been spilled along the way for so
many centuries, there it nothing we can do about. Remember the 10 VN
war started with
Nice to talk to you,
TseemYeej.
Yaj Tshaj Koob
lha,
hais txog kev sib hais lus xwb mas nej hais tsis khaus ntawv li os,
koj xij hais cuag li uas YTK npau npau taws no, koj pos pom yawg cem
leej twg phem, Kuv tuaj hauv no tav no kuv tsuas tiv thaiv kuv qhov
right, koj puas tau pom thaum ub kuv piav txog VP ces Hmoobvajusa tuaj
tiv thaiv VP, wb kuj hais lus ntau heev lawm, kuv los lus uas phem
tshaj ces yog los tias cas yuav ua qw npuj taws ua luaj no, lo no kuv
yeej hais, cov tuaj hauv no es sib hais nrog kuv es cem tias Vwm no ib
tug yog Noogdlej, ib tug yog Hmoobvajusa, ib tug yog iliki cem tias
Vwm ruam no, koj rov qab mus nyeem tag nrho YTK cov post saib koj pom
yawg cem leej twg li ntawd, kuv ntseeg tias koj yuav nrhiav tsis tau
li ntag.
Tus neeg xav tau thiab xav kawm mas noog tus kwv Surithay mas yog xav
paub thiab xav kawm mas noog li yawg noog mas yog neeg xav paub qhov
ntawd tiag, li koj ces yog yuav xav noog los sib ntsuag zog nkaus xwb
laid. Yuav tsis muaj qab hau rau kuv qhia koj, ho hais txog tias kuv
tag tswv yim lawm es thiaj muab Jesus coj los hais no kuv tsis tau tag
yooj yim txog tej nyuag me me no lwm yam tseem nyuaj tshaj no ntau
ntau tauj kwv twb tseem tiv tau yog hais qhov tseeb tseeb. Qhov loj
koj hais txog Siv Yis kuv yuav tau hais txog Jesus thiab vim ob tus
no sib tw lawm.
YTK
Hmong-Lao
> Hla, YTK, thiab nej sawv daws,
>
> Tiamsid Siv Yis no mas txhuas tus yeej
> paub. Nej ib txhia tseem hais tias cov txiv neeb mas lawv hu lawv
> hais tias lawv yog Siv Yis. Qhov no mas ntshai yog cov txiv neeb/niam
> neeb tuaj sawv rau tim USA no thiaj hais li. Kuv pog kuv yawg lawv
> muaj cov txawj neeb txwj neeb laus kawg, lawv tsis lam hu lawv tus
> kheej hais tias lawv yog Siv Yis no. Lawv tsuas txheev cov dab neeb
> thiab hus txog Leej Nkaub Siv Yis no xwb.
>
Phoojywg iliki,
First of all, welcome back. Kuv twb xav hais tias zhen tsis tuaj lawm
ces ntshe koj yuav tsis tuaj lawm thiab no. ha ha ....
Hais txog lo lus sivyis, tejzaum yog koj to taub kuv yuam kev lawm
xwb. Cov txiv/niam neeb tsuas refer rau lawv tus kheej hais tias lawv
yog sivyis no thaum lub caij tabtom ua neeb xwb. Dhau ntawv lawm, lawv
tsis refer hais tias lawv yog sivyis lawm. Qhov lawv hais li no
tejzaum yog li PY YTK hais lawm, lawv hais tias lawv yog Sivyis no kom
dab ntshai xwb.
Yog koj ua twb zoo mloog lawv ua neeb, koj yuav hnov hais tias lawv
siv lo lus "sivyis" no los tam lo lus "kuv". Example: Thaum ze ze lawv
yuav nqis neeb, lawv hais li no: Sivyis hnubnyoog tuaj lawm ntev,
sivyis yuav rawm rais fib tse; sivyis hnubnyoog tuaj lawm ntxov,
sivyis yuav rais rov.
HL
lha
Muaj tus qab hau dab tsi kuv hov yuav tuaj nrog koj sib ntsuas zog
hauv no mas? Kuv tsuas yog xav paub txog Siv Yis zaj xwb.
> I give you example, I give thanks to Christ Jesus and Siv Yis our
> lord who has given me strength for my work. I think him for
> considering me worthy and appointing me to serve both, even though in
> the past I spoke evil of both and persecuted and insulted both. But
> God was merciful to me because I did not yet have faith and so did not
> know what I was doing. And our Lord poured out his abundant grace on
> me and gave me the faith and love which are our in union with Sivyis
> and Christ Jesus. This is a true saying, to be completely accepted and
> believed; Siv Yis and Christ Jesus came into the world to save
> sinners.
Ua li cas zaum no koj hov tsis teb kuv cov lus uas kuv nug haistias
why koj hais cov lus no?
lha
tseemyeej
On Oct 15, 11:21 am, lha <lha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> TY & Cwjmeem,
> Kuv tsis tau hnov neb teb tuaj haistias neb ntseeg los tsis tseeg YTK
> zaj Siv Yis story no. Could you be sooooo kind and provide us your
> insight? Your answers could boast YTK’s ego and calm him down.
Qhov ntawm koj nug tias seb kuv tus kheej puas ntseeg YTK zaj Siv Yis
story? Yog tsis ntseeg no kuv yuav tsum "give some answers to boast
YTK’s ego and calm him down" no mas ntshe kuv yuav ua tsis tau li
ntawd. Vim hais tias; yog kuv tuaj koj tog ces txhais tau tias kuv
paub tib sab li koj nkaus xwb, hos kuv tuaj YTK tog (ntseeg ToojNchaiv
SivYis zaj dabneeg) ces txhais tau tias kuv tsuas paub tib sab li nws
nkaus thiab xwb.
Hnub i, koj xav tias kuv tsis paub txog koj lub hnub nyoog no, yog li
ntawd, hnub no, kuv thiaj xav rov qab mus hais txog koj lub hnub nyoog
dua, kuv yeej paub tias koj yeej over 50 lawm las mas nawb. Txij rog
KongLe (1960) los txog rau tamsim no, twb yuav txog 50 xyoo lawm. Koj
txiv ploj (raug ntes) lub sijhawm ntawd, nej mam khiav lawv qab los
raws tau peb nyob ntawm lub zos HavNpliajHiab (LoomMoos/PhuamKhom).
Qhov peb los nyob ua ke vim koj niam thiab niam ntxawm NyiajXauv yog
vivncaus ne, ces kuv txiv thiab txiv nyiajXauv ho yog kwvtij thiab no
nav. Let's assume tias thaum ntawd koj muaj 1 xyoo xwb los koj yeej
yuav tsum tshaj 50 xyoo lawm ne.
Qhov kuv hais tias koj "tseem hluas heev" no mas kuv ntaus nqi hais
tias koj tsuas paub tib sab (VajTswv) nkaus xwb, koj tseem paub tsis
tag txhua sab no nawb. YTK neb yog kwvtij caivplawv tib yam nkaus,
txhob muab qaib qus coj los ua qaib nyeg nawb mog. Nco ntsoov tias yus
tseem yog noob Hmoob ov, koj tseem yuav caivplawv li qub ov. Vim koj
yeej kawg rov los nrhiav noj nrhiav haus raws yus pab yus pawg Hmoob
xwb thiaj yuav tau. Qhov cov ntseeg Hmoob mus koom luag neeg tawvdawb
tej church mas muaj lawm, tabsis, kuv tseem tsis tau pom ib lub tseem
church Hmoob es muaj neeg tawvdawb tuaj attend li sub laiv.
Yuav ua dabtsi, hais dabtsi los yuav tau xyuam xim me ntsis nawb mog.
Bro. TseemYeej.
ilik...@yahoo.com
Hlob Tseemyeej,
Yog li kuv muab koj hu ua Hlob no vim wb yog tib phaj lawm. Tsis yog
hais kev sis cai, tiamsid yog hais pog yawg thiab dab qhuas no ces peb
yeej kem zog vim nyias nyob nyias ib lub kheung lawm. Koj tus kheej
mas cov neeg hauv no yeej paub tag lawm hais tias yog leej twg kiag,
tiamsid kuv mas lawv tsis paub cia txhob qhia hais tias kuv yog leej
twg es thiaj li zoo tuaj sis cav sis ntaus nyob rau lub me zos no kom
kawg kev. Kuv qhia me me hais tias kuv paub Txiv Tub Pos, Txiv Zeb,
Txiv Vong, thiab Txiv Ee lawv cov tub zoo heev yav thaum hluas. Lav
cov txiv los paub kuv zoo kawg.
koj me kwv ntag
cwjmem
I ntseeg Hmoob hais dlua ntseeg lawm haiv neeg hais.
1. Bible yog neg sau xwb, Xib fwb yawg mus kawm tawm los. Txhua
ntxhua lub teb chaws 9except communist) yeej muaj Christian/catholic
schools,colleges or universities
2. Tab sis kuv yos tag thoob cov teb chaws ua muaj Hmoob nyob tsis
muaj ib lub "HMONG SHAMAN UNIVERSITY" ua Hmoob tus txiv neeb los qhia
rau lawm caov txiv neeb. Txiv neeb lub luag hauj lawm tsuas yog mus
txo tus qhua neeb rau tus txiv neeb tshiab xwb, tom qab ntawm ces tus
txiv neeb tshiab ntawm ua raws li nws cov qhua neeb coj nws ua lawm
xwb.
A. Kawm ua xib fwb los ua luam, nrhiav noj nrhiav haus, los ntxias
teb ntxaw los nkag lawv lub chaw teev ntuj kom tau nyiaj txiag los yug
tus xib hwb.
B. Txiv neeb rau xaiv los ntawm QHUA NEEB los kho neeg ntiaj teb tus
ntuj plig. Nws tsis tau mus hais ntiaj tog quam pes (advertise) los ua
yuav nyiaj. Tus twg muaj mob mam li tuaj ntawm nws, nws mam li pab
saib thiab kho xwb. Many case, nws yeej tsis yuav nyiaj li.
Notes:
No human was born to be a sinner. A sinner must be earned by
committing crimes.....So, how do your christian claimed that a baby is
born as a sinner and needs to baptize when that baby asks/cries when
he is hungry? This is an absurd sinful notion that your christian
people have committed, and that should condemn as shameful brain
washing tactic to get $$$.
On Oct 15, 11:21 am, lha <lha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
lha
> Iha,
>
> I ntseeg Hmoob hais dlua ntseeg lawm haiv neeg hais.
Cwjmem,
Kuv xav haistias tsuav yog Hmoob hais lawm ces koj cia li ntseeg no
mas kuj tsis yog lawm thiab. Ib ntsis nws twb hais tsis yog lawm ne?
Es tsuav nws yog Hmoob lawm ces koj cia li ntseeg xwb? Kuv xav mas ua
ntej peb yuav ntseeg dab tsi peb yuavtsum hnug kom meej tso thiab
txaus ntseeg peb li mam ntseeg. Tsis matter haistias tus hais ntawv
yog leej twg, txawm tias nws yog mab dawb mab dub los yog nws hais yog
thiab makes sense lawm ces peb kuj yuav li qhov nws hais thiab. Ib
ntsis nws haistias 1 + 1 = 3 no ne, es koj ntseeg thiab lov? For
example. ib yam li thaum I peb tham txog cov Hmoob uas raug tua ntawm
tus choj Hin Heup. Koj ntseeg hais tias yog Lyteck tua, tabsis mas
twb tsis muaj evidence li ne, es tsuav yog Hmoob hais lawm ces koj cia
li ntseeg no lov?
Kuv tsis plan yuav tuaj piav txog Christianity txoj kev ntseeg ntxiv
lawm, tabsis koj pheej muab coj los hais ces cia kuv teb koj 2-3 lo
lus rau koj. Kuv paub haistias yuav boring rau koj heev thiab paub
haistias thaum twg kuv hais tuaj ces nej cov tsis paub txog
Christianity yuav hais tias kuv mas vwm lawm, kuv mas tsuas pom the
only way, kuv tsis consider other religion haistias hom twg los yeej
zoo yeej yog, tus twg yuav nyiam ntseeg yam twg los nyob ntawm nws.
Leave them alone tsis txhob pheej hais hais.
Cia kuv hais li no rau koj, kuv yeej ntseeg haistias yam religion twg
los yeej zoo. Seriously. Kev ua neeb ua yaig los yeej zoo, pe mlom
los yeej zoo, lwm yam xamxabnam los yeej zoo tag. Thaum ub kuv tseem
me, kev ua neeb kuj yog ib qho uas kho kuv zoo thiab, tabsis txhua yam
uas kuv hais tag los saum no thiab tseem tshuav ntau ntau yam, nws
tsuas yog pab tau thaum peb tseem ua neej nyob xwb.
Muaj ib hnub, ua neeb los yeej kho tsis tau koj thiab kuv lawm, tshuaj
los yeej kho tsis tau, khawv koob los yeej kho tsis tau, fivyeem los
yeej pab tsis tau, Yexus los yeej tsis kho peb lawm. Hnub ntawv koj
thiab kuv yuav tag ib sim neej, ncaim lub ntiajteb no mus.
Yog koj tsis ntseeg haistias muaj life after death ces koj tsis tag
ntseeg ib yam religion dab tsi li, ib yam li cov scientist, lossis
ntseeg everything es thaum koj muaj mob ces sim seb yam twg thiaj pab
tau yus, ib yam li TY hais txog cov tshuaj.
Hos yog koj tseem xav haistias maybe there’s life after death, thiab
koj xav haistias koj yuav mus nyob qhov chaw tau zoo no ces, perhaps,
Jesus is the only answer.
Peb ua neej nyob no koj xav haistias yam dab tsi uas peb ntsaw
tshajplaws? Hmoob twb ib txwm haistias, “xav muaj xwb tsis xav pluag,
xav ciaj xwb tsis xav tuag.” Kuv xav haistias qhov peb txhua tug xav
tau tshaj plaws ces yog ob qho no xwb, tabsis txawm peb yuav ua npaum
twg nyob hauv lub ntiajteb no los tsis muaj leej twg tau ob yam no
li. No one. Txawm yog tus hov muaj mauj lawm los nws yeej khiav tsis
nrhau txoj kev tuag. So the question is yog vim li cas noob neej
thiaj txawj tuag, lossis peb yuav ua li cas peb thiaj kovyeej txoj kev
tuag?
Vajluskub qhia haistias vim noobneej tsis mloog Vajtswv lus, Vajtswv
thiaj li foom kev ploj kev tuag los rau noobneej, TABSIS, txawm li
ntawv los nws yeej tseem hlub peb heev nws thiaj li tso nws tib leeg
tub Tswv Yexus los tuag theej peb txhua tug lub txhoj kom peb muaj
txoj kev rov qab mus cuag tau Vajtswv dua, ib yam li thaum ub Adam &
Eve nkawv ua neej nyob before the fall.
Qhov nws ua no yog vim nws txoj kev hlub nkaus nkaus xwb, nothing
else. Nws tsis yuam kom koj lossis kuv txais yuav qhov no, nws muab
qhov free choice ntawv rau koj ib yam li thaum ub Adam thiab Eve, as
you already know, nkawv tsis mloog nws lus nkawv thiaj noj tsob txiv
uas Vajtswv tsis pub kom nkawv noj. Thaum ntawv kev txhaum thiaj li
poob los raug peb txhua tug uas yog nkawv cov xeebntxwv.
Kuv ntseeg haistias koj yeej tsis muaj kev txhaum tiag, tabsis vim koj
qhov bloodline ntawv ntws los ntawm Adam & Eve lawm ces that makes you
a sinner as well.
Qhov cov Christians ua tsis tau li TY hais txog kev noj tshuaj ntawv
mas vim Vajluskub yeej qhia meej lawm haistias thaum peb los ntseeg
nws lawm, peb ua tsis tau phim xoom huam es yuav ntseeg ob peb txoj
kev cai religion. Koj either pick and serve Christ or someone else.
Bottom line, kevcai ntseeg Vajtswv it’s all about FAITH. Ntseeg
haistias hnub peb tuag lawm peb yuav tau mus nyob qhov chaw tau zoo.
Tsis muaj mob, tsis muaj nkeeg, tsis muaj kev txomnyeem lossis kev
quaj ntsuag. Faith is something we can’t see but must hold on to it.
If is something you can see or have it then it’s no longer faith.
Would it be better to have such faith that someday you will live for
ever in heaven then no faith at all? According to the Bible, heaven
can’t be earned by your good deeds. If it is then who’s the one
that’s making the decision for you?
I know it’s too long and boring so I’ll stop know. Go ahead and call
me anything you want to, an idiot, a narrow-mind, a mab dawb follower,
etc... I welcome them all.
lha
cwjmem
Iha,
> Kuv xav haistias tsuav yog Hmoob hais lawm ces koj cia li ntseeg no
> mas kuj tsis yog lawm thiab. Ib ntsis nws twb hais tsis yog lawm ne?
> Es tsuav nws yog Hmoob lawm ces koj cia li ntseeg xwb? Kuv xav mas ua
> ntej peb yuav ntseeg dab tsi peb yuavtsum hnug kom meej tso thiab
> txaus ntseeg peb li mam ntseeg. Tsis matter haistias tus hais ntawv
> yog leej twg, txawm tias nws yog mab dawb mab dub los yog nws hais yog
> thiab makes sense lawm ces peb kuj yuav li qhov nws hais thiab. Ib
> ntsis nws haistias 1 + 1 = 3 no ne, es koj ntseeg thiab lov? For
> example. ib yam li thaum I peb tham txog cov Hmoob uas raug tua ntawm
> tus choj Hin Heup. Koj ntseeg hais tias yog Lyteck tua, tabsis mas
> twb tsis muaj evidence li ne, es tsuav yog Hmoob hais lawm ces koj cia
> li ntseeg no lov?
Dab neeg yog dab neg xwb. Los lus dab neeg no, hmoob yuav tsis muab
los ua chaw ntseeg. Lawv tsuas hais raws li lawv kawm los xwb. Tej
zaum 2+2 = 6 lawm thiab.
Hos cov lus ua muab sau rau hauv Vajlugkub los yig neeg sau xwb, tus
sau ntawm nus yuv siv lub tswv yim ua sau tau zoo tshaj plaws los ua
koj tus neeg twg twm mam yuav muaj kev vam, kev cia siab. Li no, feem
coob cov ntseeg Church tshaj plaws yog cov neeg pluag, neeg muaj kev
txom nyem rau nruab siab.. ib yam nkaus li uas cov mus pe mhlom tom
tsev hauj sam, hmoob hlawv xab ntawv thov dab vaj dab tsev.
>
> Kuv tsis plan yuav tuaj piav txog Christianity txoj kev ntseeg ntxiv
> lawm, tabsis koj pheej muab coj los hais ces cia kuv teb koj 2-3 lo
> lus rau koj. Kuv paub haistias yuav boring rau koj heev thiab paub
> haistias thaum twg kuv hais tuaj ces nej cov tsis paub txog
> Christianity yuav hais tias kuv mas vwm lawm, kuv mas tsuas pom the
> only way, kuv tsis consider other religion haistias hom twg los yeej
> zoo yeej yog, tus twg yuav nyiam ntseeg yam twg los nyob ntawm nws.
> Leave them alone tsis txhob pheej hais hais.
Nyob rau lub ntej teb no mual li 150 cev teev dab qhuas. Tsis muaj
ib yam kev teev dab qhuas twg yuav zoo tshaj lub yam kev teev dab
qhuas (no one super religion on earth). Teev yam dab qhuas ua yuav
pab tau koj, txhob thuam lwm cov. Yog tsis pab lawv, ces lawv mam
tsum.
> Cia kuv hais li no rau koj, kuv yeej ntseeg haistias yam religion twg
> los yeej zoo. Seriously. Kev ua neeb ua yaig los yeej zoo, pe mlom
> los yeej zoo, lwm yam xamxabnam los yeej zoo tag. Thaum ub kuv tseem
> me, kev ua neeb kuj yog ib qho uas kho kuv zoo thiab, tabsis txhua yam
> uas kuv hais tag los saum no thiab tseem tshuav ntau ntau yam, nws
> tsuas yog pab tau thaum peb tseem ua neej nyob xwb.
Siv yis yog Hmoob tus cawm sheej. Nws los tiv thaiv neeg ntiaj teb
kom tau kev nyob qab nyob zoo. Nws tsis yog dab!
Siv Yis tshuas los cawm tib neeg nyob rau saum yaj no xwb (YANG as
Chinese term), hos hauv Yeeb Ceeb (Ying ion Chinese term) ces yog nws
muaj nws lwm tus kav lawm.
Yaj ceeb yog tib neeg yuav ntuj los ua neeg, Yeeb ceeb teb yog lub
ntuj tus ntsuj tus plig mus ua dab. These two world are ballanced.
Yog tsis muaj neeg tuag, ntiaj teb yuav tsis txaum nyob. Li no, thaum
tus neeg tuag lawm, lawv thiaj taw kev mus rau sab yeeb ceeb teb, mus
nyob rau ib tsum 13 hnub, thaum no, nws tsev neeg mam hu nws los tso
plig, thaum ntawm nws yauv mus rau Ceeb tsheej lawm. Nws mus txog
ntuj ceeb tsheej, nws mam li mus thov ntaub ntawv dua los ua neeg nyob
rau ntiaj teb. Tswv ntuj mam li txiav txim rau nws los ua neeg, txhiaj
nyob rau ntiaj teb..what you do this life will efect your next life.
example, koj tsim txom ib tug neeg tiam no, lwm tiam ces tus ntawm
yuav los tsim txom koj tib yam. So, whatever happen to you this life
is the payment of last life.
> Muaj ib hnub, ua neeb los yeej kho tsis tau koj thiab kuv lawm, tshuaj
> los yeej kho tsis tau, khawv koob los yeej kho tsis tau, fivyeem los
> yeej pab tsis tau, Yexus los yeej tsis kho peb lawm. Hnub ntawv koj
> thiab kuv yuav tag ib sim neej, ncaim lub ntiajteb no mus.
Miaj tsheeb, yog koj daim ntawv no haus, los yog koj coj ntawv
lostuag li ntawm lawm, txog hnub ntawm tus kab mob yeej yuav los
nrhiav kom tau koj...yeej tsis muaj leej twg dim li. Tab sis, yog
tsis tau txog tus neeg ntawd hnub tuag, mob xwb, ces txiv neeb yeej
yuav "restore" koj lub body balance, yuav zoo. Txawm txiv neeb mus
raws kiag nws tus ntsuj plig ntawm kiag los, txiv neeb yeej coj tsis
tau nws rov qab.
Every thing has a time and a place. What way can do is do not
jeopardize your suffering before your time is up! Let's join gang and
get shot, paralyze from the waist down..and life on years of physical
suffering.
> Yog koj tsis ntseeg haistias muaj life after death ces koj tsis tag
> ntseeg ib yam religion dab tsi li, ib yam li cov scientist, lossis
> ntseeg everything es thaum koj muaj mob ces sim seb yam twg thiaj pab
> tau yus, ib yam li TY hais txog cov tshuaj.
The is a life after death. Every ethnicity has its own way of
directing the deceased soul to reunite with its creator. Jesus is
only way for the white-man culture. Asians have their own ways.
example, Hmong is forbidden to do certain task that will disrupt the
cedeased soul from traveling (13 days)..Chinese 30 days (not sure),
and Vietnamese, 49 days. Cambodian bury its death for 3 year, dig it,
clean its bone, and burn it to ashe. Indians have to burn its body,
otherwise, the soul cannot travel to heaven.
> Hos yog koj tseem xav haistias maybe there’s life after death, thiab
> koj xav haistias koj yuav mus nyob qhov chaw tau zoo no ces, perhaps,
> Jesus is the only answer.
he he he...Constantine had done a great job...
> Peb ua neej nyob no koj xav haistias yam dab tsi uas peb ntsaw
> tshajplaws? Hmoob twb ib txwm haistias, “xav muaj xwb tsis xav pluag,
> xav ciaj xwb tsis xav tuag.” Kuv xav haistias qhov peb txhua tug xav
> tau tshaj plaws ces yog ob qho no xwb, tabsis txawm peb yuav ua npaum
> twg nyob hauv lub ntiajteb no los tsis muaj leej twg tau ob yam no
> li. No one. Txawm yog tus hov muaj mauj lawm los nws yeej khiav tsis
> nrhau txoj kev tuag. So the question is yog vim li cas noob neej
> thiaj txawj tuag, lossis peb yuav ua li cas peb thiaj kovyeej txoj kev
> tuag?
Death is part of life and it is garanteed.
> Vajluskub qhia haistias vim noobneej tsis mloog Vajtswv lus, Vajtswv
> thiaj li foom kev ploj kev tuag los rau noobneej, TABSIS, txawm li
> ntawv los nws yeej tseem hlub peb heev nws thiaj li tso nws tib leeg
> tub Tswv Yexus los tuag theej peb txhua tug lub txhoj kom peb muaj
> txoj kev rov qab mus cuag tau Vajtswv dua, ib yam li thaum ub Adam &
> Eve nkawv ua neej nyob before the fall.
Again, Constantine did a great job from selling this idea jus to
control the slaves' revolt. The is no such thing. A nes born is the
purest form of human. A sinner must be earn...Again, Constantine
revised its nwe testimonial well, he he he!!
lha
Thanks a lot for letting everyone know how old I am. Ua cas tseem
yuav muab qhia kiag rau sawvdaws lawm thiab lau. Lol… Tos kuv hais li
ntawv los kuv lam tso dag xwb, kuv tsis xav tias koj yuav tsis paub.
Koj twb yog lum aib lawm es ua cas koj thiaj yuav tsis paub mas. Koj
hais li ntawv es lub sijhawm ntawv koj hov muaj petsawg xyoo lawm
mas?
lha
tseemyeej
On Oct 18, 6:42 am, lha <lha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bro TY,
> Koj twb yog lum aib lawm es ua cas koj thiaj yuav tsis paub mas. Koj
> hais li ntawv es lub sijhawm ntawv koj hov muaj petsawg xyoo lawm
> mas?
I might be older than 4, younger than B and equal to L. The late L was
your aunt's son.
Simple math huh?
Bro. TseemYeej.
lha
Bro TY,
L mas yog ib tug txiv neej Hmoob uas zoo nraug kawg kiag li. Kuv tsis
tau pom dua ib tug Hmoob twg es yuav zoo npaum yawg li. Kuv xav
haistias kuv twb haib kawg lawm no tabsis tseem tsis npaum yawg thiab
tiag. hahaha... Anyway, tu siab ntau tias yawg tau tso peb tseg
lawm.
lha
Yaj Tshaj Koob
lha,
qhov kuv muab qhov ntawd pub rau koj vim tias koj yog tus neeg ntseeg
Vajtswv koj hais lus li YTK yog me nyuam yau.
>.....................................neb ntseeg los tsis tseeg YTK
> zaj Siv Yis story no. Could you be sooooo kind and provide us your
> insight? Your answers could boast YTK’s ego and calm him down.
Yam twg los kawg xuas ov txhais ko taws mus kev, caij tsheb, ua tsis
tau lwm yam dab tsis txawv dua qhov no. Yeeb sab, ntuj sab tsis muaj
neeg pom.
YTK
lha
> qhov kuv muab qhov ntawd pub rau koj vim tias koj yog tus neeg ntseeg
> Vajtswv koj hais lus li YTK yog me nyuam yau.
>
>
YTK,
Tiag li lov? Cas yuav txawj dag rau kuv muaj siab ua luaj li.
Menyuam yaus los kuj lam nrog sib txuas lus kom hnub txhob ntev ntev
thiab mas.
lha
lha
YTK,
Thov txim hais lus rov quav tag li lawm. Kuv tsis thwm haistias koj
yog menyuam yaus. Kuv yeej yog ib niag neeg tsis txawj hais lus
pestsawg es thov koj txhob thwm xas nawb. Tos kuv hov hnug koj los
zoo li tejzaum koj hais lus zoo li koj yog 2 tug neeg.
lha
lha
Cwjmem,
Hnub no muaj sijhawm, kuv yuav los teb koj cov lus nawb. Kuv paub lawm
haistias koj yuav tsis nkag siab rau cov lus no, tabsis why not give
it a shot? What’s the worst thing that could happen to me? Kawg mag
cem ob peb los xwb, right? I consider that a blessing from the Lord.
> Dab neeg yog dab neg xwb. Los lus dab neeg no, hmoob yuav tsis muab
> los ua chaw ntseeg. Lawv tsuas hais raws li lawv kawm los xwb. Tej
> zaum 2+2 = 6 lawm thiab.
Txhais tau tias koj agreed li kuv los lus nug haistias YTK zaj Siv Yis
story no ces yog dabneeg xwb. Rau qhov kuv nyeem tag mas nws yog 2 + 2
= 6 li koj hais ne. Tabsis ua cas Hmoob hov muab los ua kev ntseeg?
Koj twb haistias Hmoob yuav tsis muab dabneeg los ua chaw ntseeg no
ne?
> Hos cov lus ua muab sau rau hauv Vajlugkub los yig neeg sau xwb, tus
> sau ntawm nus yuv siv lub tswv yim ua sau tau zoo tshaj plaws los ua
> koj tus neeg twg twm mam yuav muaj kev vam, kev cia siab. Li no, feem
> coob cov ntseeg Church tshaj plaws yog cov neeg pluag, neeg muaj kev
> txom nyem rau nruab siab.. ib yam nkaus li uas cov mus pe mhlom tom
> tsev hauj sam, hmoob hlawv xab ntawv thov dab vaj dab tsev.
Phau Vajluskub yeej yog neeg sau tiag li koj hais, tabsis cov lus uas
lawv sau ntawv Vajluskub qhia haistias yog Vajtswv tshoov lawv lub
siab kom lawv sau li nws qhia rau lawv. Txhais tau haistias Vajtswv
tsuas yog siv lawv txhais tes los sau nws cov lus rau nws xwb. He is
the Author and they are the writers. The Ten Commandments thiaj li yog
Vajtswv ua tus sau kiag rau ntawm ob daig lag zeb for Moses.
The Bible was written by many writers over a period of 1600 years.
Tsis zoo li lwm yam kev ntseeg es IB TUG ua tus sau xwb. Thiab koj
yuavtsum totaub haistias these writers were not from the same
generation. So the question is… yog ua li cas es cov writers no yuav
siv sijhawm ntev tag npaum no los fool neeg ntiajteb…over 16 centuries
to write the Bible? What’s their purpose? Yog ib tug ua tus sau xwb no
mas, YES, it is possible, tabsis over 40 writers and more than 1600
years?
Cov ntseeg Vajtswv yeej muaj cov muaj thiab cov pluag sib xyaw daws.
Cov neeg muaj thiab xav haistias lawv yog neeg txhawj neeg ntse yeej
los ntseeg Vajtswv tsis yoojyim vim lawv yog cov neeg khavtheeb
arrogant, tsis kam txo fwjchim thiab xav haistias they don’t need God
in their lives. Vim li no Yesxus thiaj li haistias:
Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard
for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard
for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is
easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich
man to enter the kingdom of God."
> Nyob rau lub ntej teb no mual li 150 cev teev dab qhuas. Tsis muaj
> ib yam kev teev dab qhuas twg yuav zoo tshaj lub yam kev teev dab
> qhuas (no one super religion on earth). Teev yam dab qhuas ua yuav
> pab tau koj, txhob thuam lwm cov. Yog tsis pab lawv, ces lawv mam
> tsum.
Again, dab qhuas yeej pab tau neeg tiag, but that is not the point.
What we want is to live forever, free of pains and sorrow. Kev ntseeg
Yesxus yog txoj kev pab tau yus thaum tseem ua neej nyob AND after yus
tag sim neej, which is the most important of all. Twb yog vim li no
cov Christians thiaj li yuavtsum qhia qhov tseeb rau sawvdaws kom paub
txog qhov no es sawvdaws thiaj li yuav dim.
> Siv yis yog Hmoob tus cawm sheej. Nws los tiv thaiv neeg ntiaj teb
> kom tau kev nyob qab nyob zoo. Nws tsis yog dab!
Kuv tsis tau haistias nws yog dab, YTK yog tus hais li ntawv. Koj mam
li mus nrog nws tham txog qhov no. Siv Yis yeej yog ib tug pab peb
Hmoob, tabsis tsis yog tus cawm seej. Txawm tias nws yog los tsuas yog
ntawm sab nqaij tawv xwb… Nws pab tsis tau kom peb tau txoj sia nyob
mus ib txhis as Christ.
> Siv Yis tshuas los cawm tib neeg nyob rau saum yaj no xwb (YANG as
> Chinese term), hos hauv Yeeb Ceeb (Ying ion Chinese term) ces yog nws
> muaj nws lwm tus kav lawm.
Exactly, tus yuav cawm tau peb sab yeeb ceeb ces yog Christ. Nws thiaj
qhia rau peb haistias nws yog tus ntawv ntag. Jesus answered, "I am
the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except
through me.
> Yaj ceeb yog tib neeg yuav ntuj los ua neeg, Yeeb ceeb teb yog lub
> ntuj tus ntsuj tus plig mus ua dab. These two world are ballanced.
> Yog tsis muaj neeg tuag, ntiaj teb yuav tsis txaum nyob. Li no, thaum
> tus neeg tuag lawm, lawv thiaj taw kev mus rau sab yeeb ceeb teb, mus
> nyob rau ib tsum 13 hnub, thaum no, nws tsev neeg mam hu nws los tso
> plig, thaum ntawm nws yauv mus rau Ceeb tsheej lawm. Nws mus txog
> ntuj ceeb tsheej, nws mam li mus thov ntaub ntawv dua los ua neeg nyob
> rau ntiaj teb. Tswv ntuj mam li txiav txim rau nws los ua neeg, txhiaj
> nyob rau ntiaj teb..what you do this life will efect your next life.
> example, koj tsim txom ib tug neeg tiam no, lwm tiam ces tus ntawm
> yuav los tsim txom koj tib yam. So, whatever happen to you this life
> is the payment of last life.
Muaj tseeb li koj hais.. what we do in this life affects our next
life. Twb yog vim li no Yesxus thiaj li haistias,”for God so loved the
world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him
shall not perish but have eternal life.” So, in this life yog leejtwg
tsis ntseeg nws thiab txais yuav nws los ua lawv tus Tswv cawm seej
ces the next life tus ntawv will have to pay for the consequence,
which is a life of separation from God.
Peb lub neej tshiab tsis yog nyob lub ntiajteb no, tabsis either in
heaven or hell. Kev mus thawj thiab tsis muaj li koj hais. Yog muaj
thawj thiab, ua cas lub ntiajteb no hov muaj neeg coob zuj zus tuaj?
Ua li cov neeg tshiab no hov los qhov twg los? If reincarnation is
real then we should have the same number of people in this world, but
we are not. Men have been fooled by Satan.
> Miaj tsheeb, yog koj daim ntawv no haus, los yog koj coj ntawv
> lostuag li ntawm lawm, txog hnub ntawm tus kab mob yeej yuav los
> nrhiav kom tau koj...yeej tsis muaj leej twg dim li. Tab sis, yog
> tsis tau txog tus neeg ntawd hnub tuag, mob xwb, ces txiv neeb yeej
> yuav "restore" koj lub body balance, yuav zoo. Txawm txiv neeb mus
> raws kiag nws tus ntsuj plig ntawm kiag los, txiv neeb yeej coj tsis
> tau nws rov qab.
Peb yuav khiav tsis dim txoj kev ploj kev tuag nyob hauv lub ntiajteb
no, tabsis yog peb muaj Christ nyob hauv peb lub neej peb yuav dim
txoj kev tuag zaum ob, the second death. Txoj kev ntawv yog txoj yuav
separate us from God for eternity mus rau txoj kev tsaus ntuj.
> Every thing has a time and a place. What way can do is do not
> jeopardize your suffering before your time is up! Let's join gang and
> get shot, paralyze from the waist down..and life on years of physical
> suffering.
> The is a life after death. Every ethnicity has its own way of
> directing the deceased soul to reunite with its creator. Jesus is
> only way for the white-man culture. Asians have their own ways.
> example, Hmong is forbidden to do certain task that will disrupt the
> cedeased soul from traveling (13 days)..Chinese 30 days (not sure),
> and Vietnamese, 49 days. Cambodian bury its death for 3 year, dig it,
> clean its bone, and burn it to ashe. Indians have to burn its body,
> otherwise, the soul cannot travel to heaven.
Qhov no yog txoj kev dag los ntawm dab ntxwg nyoog kom sawvdaws ntseeg
nws xwb. Tsis muaj li ntawv. Peb txhua tug are human being and created
by the same God.
> he he he...Constantine had done a great job...
Koj txhob xav haistias cov los ntseeg Yesxus yog cov neeg raug lwm tug
dag thiab ruam. Yog Yexus lub qhov rooj tsis open rau leejtwg, tus
ntawv yeej los cuag tsis tau nws ib sim neej. Vim li no nws thiaj li
haistias,
"So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will
find; knock and the door will be opened to you.”
> Death is part of life and it is garanteed.
Muaj tseeb li koj hais, tabsis LIFE is also guaranteed through Christ.
Vim li no nws thiaj li los tuag rau koj thiab kuv. Nws muab nws txoj
sia los pauj koj thiab kuv txoj, the same as you would do for your
children so they may live.
> Again, Constantine did a great job from selling this idea jus to
> control the slaves' revolt. The is no such thing. A nes born is the
> purest form of human. A sinner must be earn...Again, Constantine
> revised its nwe testimonial well, he he he!!
With or without Constantine, Christianity txoj kev ntseeg will live
forever with the believers. Thaum kawg koj thiab kuv mam li pom seb
qhov twg thiaj li yog qhov tseeb, but then will it be too late for one
of us? I don’t expect you to understand what I’m saying, but I know
what I am saying.
Here are some questions for you to ponder about:
1. Co neeg Israelite los qhov twg los? Yog tsis yog Vajtswv kom lawv
mus nyob rau tim lub tebchaws tamsim no lawv nyob no, leejtwg yog tus
coj lawv mus nyob rau tiv? Why are they there?
2. Moses, King David and Solomon pos muaj tiag los yog myth, dab neeg
xwb?
3. Cov neeg Israelite pos tau mus ua qhev nyob tebchaw Egypt li
Vajluskub qhia?
4. Cov zos uas Vajluskub mentioned txog pos tseem muaj nyob niaj hnub
no? How about Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Sea of Galilee, Jordan River, Dead
Sea, Nazareth, Samaria, Jericho, and many many more.
5. What about the destruction of Jerusalem? Did it really happen as
the Bible described?
6. What about the governors who governed the Jews in Jesus time? Were
they real or faked?
7. Did the Israelite really exile to Babylon as described in the
Bible?
I bet you can find all the answers to these questions from your
fingertip. Better yet, book a trip to the Promised Land and discover
it for yourself.
lha
cwjmem
So, thru Christ is the only way!!!! I am not saying your belief is
wrong. So, seek Christ if you strongly believe it, and leave other
religion alone. Other religions say the same...so who is right? No
one know.
On Oct 26, 5:51 pm, lha <lha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here are some questions for you to ponder about:
>
> 1. Co neeg Israelite los qhov twg los? Yog tsis yog Vajtswv kom lawv
> mus nyob rau tim lub tebchaws tamsim no lawv nyob no, leejtwg yog tus
> coj lawv mus nyob rau tiv? Why are they there?
Yog li koj puas paub hais tias vim li cas tib neeg nyob rau ntiaj teb
ho tsis zoo ib yam, hais ib hom lus, coj ib txog kev ntseeg? Hmoob
nev tswm sim qhov twg los? Leej twg yog tus tsim Hmoob? Tsis muaj
leej twg paub. Tshuas yog leej twg xav hais li cas los tau.
> 2. Moses, King David and Solomon pos muaj tiag los yog myth, dab neeg
> xwb?
Yog lawm, cov neeg no tsis txawv lwm txoj dab neeg. Yog tus neeg sau
ntawm nws xav sau li cas los nws yeej sau tau. Lub caij ntawm, cov
neeg nyob sab ntawm phem heev. Yuav muab leejtwg yuam ua qe los tua
yeej tsis muaj leej twg yuav cheem tau. Li no, cov neej sau ntawv
thiab muab lub ntuj coj los hem hais tias yog lawv ua phem ces yuav
raug mus poob rau ntuj hluav taws thaum lawv tuag lawm, lawv tus ntsuj
plig yuav mus tsis tau nrog tswv ntuj nyob nws lub teb chaw. Li no
thiaj li yuav cheem tau lawv txoj kev tsim txom thiab kev li hiam.
> 3. Cov neeg Israelite pos tau mus ua qhev nyob tebchaw Egypt li
> Vajluskub qhia?
Tsis muaj leej twg paub tau. Yog lawv tau, lawv yeej yog ib pawg neeg
me, tsis muaj zog los yog txuj ci loj los tiv thaiv lawv. lawv thiaj
li rau qhuab yuam mus ua qhev...xwm li cov dub raug tuaj ua qhev rau
teb chaws Meka no.
> 4. Cov zos uas Vajluskub mentioned txog pos tseem muaj nyob niaj hnub
> no? How about Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Sea of Galilee, Jordan River, Dead
> Sea, Nazareth, Samaria, Jericho, and many many more.
Tus sau ntawm nws yeej teev tseg thaj chaw ntawm kom tib neeg nyob rau
ntiaj teb no ntseeg. Thaj av, lub zos, tus dej ntawm lub be yeej tsis
pauv be li . Tsawg tiam los yeej tseem hu lub be qub.
Piv txwv hais tias Looj cheeb no, dej naj nyeej no 10,000 xyoo tom
ntej no, nws puas tseem yuav hu li be qub?
Don't let writers fool you!!
> 5. What about the destruction of Jerusalem? Did it really happen as
> the Bible described?
Tsis muaj leej twg paub. Ua li Mt Helen tawg thaum 1980 ntawm, puas
yog Vajtswv ua? Lub roob hluav taws tawg nyob rau Indonesia tam sim
no puas yog ntuj ua? Ua li qav qeev nyob rau Haiti puas yog Vajtswv
ua? Yog ib tug neeg twg xav sau ua ib phau Vaj lug kub los yeej sau
tau. Same as destruction of Jerusalem...Don't be fool!!!
> 6. What about the governors who governed the Jews in Jesus time? Were
> they real or faked?
They might be real or fake, no one knows? Why is it so important to
us?? No, no body cares!!
> 7. Did the Israelite really exile to Babylon as described in the
> Bible?
Again, the writers must deliver his claim, but who knows? Is this
story different from us as why we are here in America, moved away from
our ancestral place...Tuam tshoj???
> I bet you can find all the answers to these questions from your
> fingertip. Better yet, book a trip to the Promised Land and discover
> it for yourself.
Sure the names and places mentioned in the bible are still here and
will continue as long as this earth exists. The same as Looj Cheeb,
phongsavan, nam Ngeum, Mekong river will always be part of the world
map.
> lha
You should ask yourself this questions.
1. why a new born deserves to be labeled as sinner and needed baptize
when they are born to be the purest form of human on earth?
2. how can a christian people claim themselves that god will grant
them a passport to heaven just simply go to church? and others will go
to hell?
3. why christian people have to go and recruit other folks to join in
their churches? why can't you just build a temple like a Buddhist
temple, come as they wish to pray for their own faith?
4. Why you think Christian is a super religion, and everyone need
their services?
5. Why you work so hard for your after life, than concentrate on
helping yourself for the living.
My comment to these questions are money, power, and control...This
religion is no better than any others. In fact, this religion is one
of the two most destructive religions on earth. If we get rid of
Islam and Christian, our world we have no major war.
Yesterday is in the past, today (now) is real, tomorrow is uncertain.
Let life runs its own course as long as you don't hurt anyone.
Everyone is guaranteed to go to see his/her creator after death.