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Mloog poj niam hais zaj tshoob.

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phwvnyawm

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Apr 5, 2012, 11:24:00 AM4/5/12
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All,


Peb ib txhia txiv neej lam muaj phom xwb twb tsis paub tsis cuag cov
poj niam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI_iBN-j3lU&feature=related.

Victor,

Koj tus kwv Bee Yang puas yog tus hais cov zaj tshoob hauv no naj?

yawgnomdub

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Apr 5, 2012, 12:14:18 PM4/5/12
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She is not bad at all. Let use her to do the job

xyeejtsawg

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Apr 5, 2012, 1:10:40 PM4/5/12
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Dab phwv Yog yuav muab hais qhov ti2 ces Vitor lawv nws muaj nws
ib pab Vitor lawv los nrog pab yaj phu phee no nyob lawm ces lawv
cias lis uas yaj phu phee lawm xwb. Bee yaj lawv thiaj tseem yog yaj
phuv phee os.

kwvtijhmoob

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Apr 5, 2012, 1:52:32 PM4/5/12
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On Apr 5, 10:24 am, phwvnyawm <phwvnya...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Victor,
> Koj tus kwv Bee Yang puas yog tus hais cov zaj tshoob hauv no naj?

phwvnyawm-- kuv paub victor thiab victor tus kwv bee zoo. tus hais
cov zaj tshoob hauv no tsis yog bee ov. bee mas tus neeg yuag yuag
siab ntshua, plaub hau nraum xub qwb ntev tsawv thiab tsis ntsis plaub
hau tav toj.

raws li kuv paub mas victor tus kwv bee tsis txawj zaj tshoob sub.
ntshe nyuam qhuav no ho kawm txawj lawm mas hais tsis tau. ho yav tas
los mas kuv paub nws tsis txawj sub ov. kuv tsuas pom zaum puav nws
txiv ua txiv qeej tej lub ntees tuag es nws tuaj pab nws txiv ntaus
nruas zaum puav thiab tshuab zaj puav qeej xwb, tab sis zoo li nws twb
kawm tsis tau tiav qeej thiab sub, tsuas yog tshuab qeej ntiv thiab
nuj nrws ua sis xwb. cov qeej txheej xwm zoo li nws twb tseem tsis
tau txawj. ib ntus no los kuv twb tsis pom victor nkawv txiv tom tej
ntees lawm thiab. nws puas tseem noj qab nyob zoo ne. nkawv txiv
paub kuv thiab mas.


Hmoob St. Paul

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Apr 5, 2012, 3:28:58 PM4/5/12
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> All,
>
> Peb ib txhia txiv neej lam muaj phom xwb twb tsis paub tsis cuag cov
> poj niam.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI_iBN-j3lU&feature=related.

She's good! Thov qhuas nawb! Peb cov txivneej ces twb tsis npaum nws
lawm thiab!

phwvnyawm

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Apr 5, 2012, 3:52:07 PM4/5/12
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Kwvtij,

> phwvnyawm-- kuv paub victor thiab victor tus kwv bee zoo.  tus hais
> cov zaj tshoob hauv no tsis yog bee ov.  bee mas tus neeg yuag yuag
> siab ntshua, plaub hau nraum xub qwb ntev tsawv thiab tsis ntsis plaub
> hau tav toj.

Koj hais koj ib tug Victor thiab npis lawm nawb.........raws li hnub i
Victor hais ces tus Bee Yang hais-s txiv XAIV ces yog nws tus kwv no
ned.
Bee hais txiv XAIV ces yog tus Bee hais cov zaj tshoob kuv hais no
nawb.

Koj mas kuv tsis to taub tias ua li cas Born los ntes tsis tau
koj,uncle Dr Suav Kuam los ntes tsis tau koj,Hmong-lao los ntes tsis
tau koj,kuv ho nug txiv Nom Khwb los yawg kuj tsis paub ko li
thiab........tam tseeb..... koj yog leej twg tiag......koj hais tias
koj yog hmoob Xyooj no es muaj pes tsawg tus hmoob Xyooj nyiam-m ua
hauj lwm tom ntees tuag ned? kuv mas ntshai tsam koj lam ua li yawg
Vajmoob thiab Vaj Ncuab nkawv xwb lauj.........kav liam nawb.....Thaum
July 4th xyoo no ces kuv yuav tuaj wb mam mus noj fawm ua ke. Es lam
nug koj, koj puas paub peb txiv ntxawm Zam Muas Yaj tus yuav 2-3 tug
poj niam xwb los mas......tus no yog yawg Vam Kaim do hau thiab Nkaj
huas lawv tsev txheeb-b ntag nawb.

Sib ntsib dua.

surithay

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Apr 5, 2012, 5:35:01 PM4/5/12
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Phwv, Koj puas yog hais txog Victor Yaj Uas yog hlob Vajtsab tus tub!
Yog Koj nug txog tus Victor ntawd no ces Kwvtij teb yog lawm nawb.
Victor tus kwv npis mas tsis puv li tus kws qhia zaj tshoob hauv
Youtub nawb! Kwvtij, Koj paub tijlaug Vajtsab zoo Los, ob/peb hnub
Dhau Los kuv ntsib tijlaug pem khw Hmoob yawg kuj noj qab nyob zoo.
Victor txiv Uas yog tijlaug Vajtsab mas Txawj ntau yam os... Yawg
Txawm yog tuam mejkoob rau kuv rooj tshoob ntag. Phwvnyawm, tus
Kwvtijhmoob no tej zaum tsis yog cov neej tas Xyooj. Kuv xav tej zaum
yo peb cov Caiv plawv.

phwvnyawm

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Apr 5, 2012, 6:23:05 PM4/5/12
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Uncle Surithay,

Yog lis mas tus Npis kuv hais no yeejyog Victor lawv tsev kwv tij lawm
thiab od. Txiv hlob Vajtsab Yaj cov tub mas kuv tsuas paub Thoj
(Victor xwb) tej zaum tus Npis txiv Xaiv no tsis yog koom niam,koom
txiv nrog Victor yog tij yug kwv yug lawm,hais li Kwvtij hais ces
Victor nws yeej muaj ib tug kwv hu ua Npis no thiab.

Hais txog kwv tij mas......kuv yeej xav tias nws yuav tsis yog hmoob
Xyooj, raws li hnub neb sib tham ces Luv Yaj Nom Tooj tus kwv los kuv
paub nej pab qhia ntawv ua kev ces neb teev cov npe kuv yeej paub tag
tib si ned. Tus Xeeb Lauj mas puas yog nws muaj ib tug tij laug hu ua
Tswb No maj? es nws puas yog aib Yaj Kuam ntes npas tus dab laug ned?
Tus Xeeb Lauj ua neb hais tias xyoo twg los tsis txawj laus li no naj.
sib ntsib dua.

surithay

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Apr 5, 2012, 6:41:47 PM4/5/12
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Phwvnyawm, Wb tham txog Lauj Xeeb Uas yog Yaj Kuam ntes npas tus dab
laug Los mas.... Yawg tsis Txawj laus kiag li. Victor yeej muaj ib tug
kwv hu ua npis Tabsis tsis yog tus hais zaj tshoob.

Victor Yang

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Apr 5, 2012, 7:37:09 PM4/5/12
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Phwvnyawm;


Tus Bee Yang hais zaj tshoob no yog kuv ib tug kwv thiab yog txiv
ntawm tub. Bee qhia ntawv nyob hauv Fresno state. Tus Bee Yang uas
Kwvtij Hmoob thiab Uncle Surithay hais mas yog kuv tus kwv niam txiv
yug ib phab nyob Minnesota. Kuv tus kwv Bee Yang mas tsis txawj zaj
tshoob txiv xaiv, nws tsuas txawj qeej xwb. Tswv Kav Yaj ua nrog nrog
Bee Yaang (Bee Yang Fresno) hais hais txiv xaiv yog txiv ntawm tub
(kwv txiv tus kwv tub). 10 lub xyoo dhau los lawm Dr. Geryoung Yang,
Bee Yang thiab Tswv Kav Yaj lawv mus kawm kevcai Hmoob (kawm hu plig,
kawm dab qhuas, kawm qeej, kawm zaj tshoob txiv xaiv).

Kwvtij Yaj Phuv Phees. Kwvtij Yaj Phuv Phees yog caj ces los ntawm
Naikong Txwj Zeb Yaj Phuv Nyawm. Kwv lam xyoo 19850 cov laus khiav
los txog Sam Neua (Tuam Phwv Lis or Phou Loei) peb tug yawg uas yog
leej txiv ntawm cov kwvtij Yaj Phuv Phees (yawg Lwm) tuag, tseg ib tug
menyuam tub hu ua Npliam (Txoov Npliam), niam coj mus yuav txiv Hmoob
Vwj thiab ua menyuam Hmoob Vwj lawm. Xyoo 1875 kuv yawgsuab (Nyiaj
Xab Yaj) mas khiav Tuamtshoj los txog Sojtshoj los nrhiav tau yawg
Txooj Npliam ua yog tus kwv tub nyob Phuv Fab.

Yawg Suab Nplaib, yawg Lwm thiab yawg Yaj Tuam ua yog yawg Nyiaj Xab
txiv lawv yog kwvtij koom niam koom txiv. Cov kwvtij Phuv Phees nrog
Hmoob Vwj (Cwjmem lawv pab Hmoob Vwj) ua kwvtij tau 4 tiamneeg. Xyoo
1953 kuv txiv (Vaj Tsab Yaj) mas yuav kuv niam uas yog Vwj Loob muam.
Cwjmem txiv lawv tseem muab kuv yawg (kuv txiv) npuas 12 lag nyiaj los
kho Hmoob Vwj hais tias yuav muam (yuav Hmoob Vwj). Xyoo 1959 kuv
yawg thiab yawg Nchaiv Tswb Yaj uas yog Col. Tooj Tuam Yaj txiv thiaj
tuaj mus kawm dab ntawm Naikong Txwj Zeb Yaj lawv nyob Loob Pum (Tsua
Vaj) ua ntej lawv yuav tsiv los rau Phwvnyawm. 1970 Txiv Koos uas
yog txiv Neej Khom Denver, Colorado tijlaug thiaj tuaj nrog Col. Tooj
Tuam nyob Looj Ceeb.

Chao Muang Ntsuab Toog Yaj, Naikong Paj Txoos Yaj, Tojxeem Xaiv Suav
thiab Tojxeem Npliaj Pov Yaj (Yaj Yaj yawg) or unvle Surithay tijlaug
peb koom tug poj tus yawm nyob Suav teb los. Yawg Npliaj Tub Yaj
thiab yawg Paj Txoos Yaj yeej paub tag peb pab kwvtij Phuv Phees cov
cag dab thiab laig tag peb cov pog yawg. Vim li no thaum Col. Tooj
Tuam los tuav GM 22 Commander 1971, Tooj Tuam thiaj muab kiag Heoui
Tho rau Txooj Tuam Xaiv Mos). Vim cov kwvtij uas yog Naikong Txwj Zeb
Yaj Phwvnyawm lawv tso peb yawm Txoov Npliam mus ua Hmoob Vwj thiab
noj plawv lawm es thaum rov los ua Hmoob Yaj tsis paub dab ces thiaj
kom muam phauj tsawm ua taig laig.


Qhov uas Xyeejtsawg hais tias kuv tsis yog Yaj Phuv Phees tsis muaj
tseeb: Kuv yawg koob Nkaj Siab Yaj yog tus muab yawg Txawj Tsab Yaj
(Naikhus Kab Ying yawg) txiav plawv. Kuv yawg Tooj Choj Yaj yog tus
coj cov kwvtij Phuv Phees tsiv los rau zos Phuv Phees. Kuv txiv yog
tus yuav kuv niam (yuav nkauj Hmoob Vwj) thiab cais Vwj rau Vwj, cais
Yaj rau Yaj. Thaum Col. Tooj Tuam Yaj tuaj mus kawm team (Special
Operation Team or SOP) nyob Hua Hin Thaibtb (1961), kuv txiv yog tus
ua Naismuaj (group commander) hloov Tooj Tuam thaum 1961.


Victor Yang

Yaj Tshaj Koob

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Apr 5, 2012, 8:44:38 PM4/5/12
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Victor Yang,

Ua cas koj tham txog cov pog yawg los pem Suav los koj ho teev tsi
txog peb pab nyuag hlo li hahahaha, koj tsi tau paub txog txhua pab
los li cas. Thaum kuv mus txog pem suav teb, kuv mus nug txog Hmoob
Yaj ncuab, kuv nug dab qhuas cov txig xws li 3-5-7-9 txig ntawd, Hmoob
Suav hais tias hu ua Hmoob tuam tshoj cov caiv plawv ces tsuas muaj 9
txig nkaus xwb tsi muaj lwm txig li, cov 3-5-7 yog txia lawm, lawv
hais li.

Hmoob Yajncuab pem Suav feem coob yog Hmoob hnav tiab red skirt Hmoob
9 txig nkaus xwb no. yog li cas nram peb no yuav ua ntau txig ua luaj
li lawm ne.


YTK

Victor Yang

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Apr 5, 2012, 9:08:16 PM4/5/12
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On Apr 5, 6:37 pm, Victor Yang <victoryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Phwv;


Txiv Me Yaj (Me loj & Me yau) lawv tuaj poob rau California thaum
October 1976. September kuv tus kwv Lauj Tuam Yaj (Tswv Kas Yaj)
thiab txiv Xeeb Yaj (Nraj Pov Yaj) uas yog Archan Ntxheb tus kwv tuaj
raws txiv Me nej. 1980 Naiskhus Kab Yeeb Yaj lawv qab tuaj txog.
Then Naiskhus Kab Yeeb coj 2 -3 yim kwvtij khiav los rau Fresno no
thaum 1981 or 1982. Bee Yang tuaj puag tom qab no (1985), thaum tuaj
yeej loj, muaj noobnyoog thiab ua ntsuag ciaj tuaj. 1987 txiv Tooj
Npliam (Bee Yang txiv) mam tuaj txog Fresno no. Thaum (1980s) muaj qab
muaj tsuag los yawg Nom Yeeb (Naiskhus Kab Yeeb) lawv yuav tsum tos
kom tau hlob Naikong Txhiaj Pos tuaj txog mam noj. Kevcai Hmoob txhua
yam kawg rau koj txiv (hlob Naikong Txhiaj Pos) thiab txiv Paj Tsab
Nom Pov. Vim txiv Me lawv cov ua ntej tuaj mus Church tag lawm thiab
vim lawv tsis paub kevcai Hmoob li.


Kuv ntsib hlob Naikong Txhiaj Pos thawj zaug yog December 1986, hlob
tseem faj lus kom kuv los hais rau txiv Tub Huas hais tias Khus (Dr.
Khus Yaj) mus qhia ntawv rau Suav teb lawm. Tsis tag li xwb hlob
tseem tham hais tias hlob tus tub uas hlob cia siab yog koj (Xyum)
nyob Santa Ana. Koj yuav tau txib thiab hu Bee Yang (Bee txiv xaiv or
Bee Fresno State) thiab Tswv Kav lawv, koj thiaj yuav paub lawv zoo.
Lawv kub siab lug kawm kevcai Hmoob, lawv hais tias kawm tau Master
degree twb zoo siab tsis npaum lawv txawj qeej, txawj zaj tshoob txiv
xaiv.es mus ua mej koob, kavxwm, txiv qeej, txiv xaiv rau ib lub
ntees.

Dr. Geryoung Yang uas kawm tiav DDS nyob Marquette University Dental
School (1991) tseem los yaum thiab coj Bee Yang lawv kawm txujci
Hmoob, thiab hais tias ib tug txivneeg Hmoob yuav tsum paub txujci
Hmoob: Txawj hu plig, txawj haig dab, txawj qeej, thiab txawj zaj
tshoob txiv xaiv.



Victor Yang

surithay

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On Apr 5, 2:52 pm, phwvnyawm <phwvnya...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Phwvnyawm, Zajmuas Uas yog Dr. Suav phd tus tijlaug mas muaj ib tug
Pojniam xwb ov. Tus yuav ob peb tug Pojniam mas hu Uas Txoojmuas Uas
yog Dr. Povkub Yaj txiv khiav California Los rau pem Mn. Nws tus
niamyau ces yog tus Uas rog nkajlem ua movie. Peb cov Caiv plawv mas
ua taus txiv kawg tuaj teb chaw no tseem muaj 2-3 lub pobtsawb. Koj
txhob ua li lawv ua, ua li lawv hais xwb nawb!

Victor Yang

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Apr 5, 2012, 11:36:30 PM4/5/12
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Tijlaug Yajtshajkoob;


Hmoob Yaj yeej muaj tib tug Yaj xwb yog Yaj 9 txig li koj hais. Leej
txiv xav tau ntaus tus pojniam tabsi ua tsis tau txiv. Niamhloj ua
dab roog yuav ua rau nws 9 tug tub xwb, niam nrab pom hais tias niam
hlob ua rau niamhlob cov xwb, niam nrab thiaj ua rau niam nrab 6 tug
tub thiab ib tug vauv. Niam yau los hais tias, niam hlob tsuas ua rau
niam hlob 9 tug tub. Niam nrab tsuas ua rau niam nrab 6 tug tub thiab
ib tug vauv ces niam yau thiaj ua rau niam yau 5 tug tub.

Txij hnub ntawd los thiaj muaj Yaj 9 txig, Yaj 7 txim, Yaj 5 txig.
Yaj 3 txig yog Yaj txias. Koj hais tias nyob Suav Tuamtshoj tsuas
muaj Yaj 9 Txig xwb. Yog ua tib zoo saib tej zaum Hmoob los hloov
nyob rau Sojtshoj teb vim: Hmoob hais tias Hmoob mus nrhiav tau Npuas
nram Mab nram Suab thiab Hmoob txwv tsis pub hais lus Nplog thaus tab
tom ua dab roog.

Hmoob zaj foom kom mas hais tias "luag tsuas cav nyob Tuamtshoj thiab
muaj zoo mem toj, nyob Sovtshoj thiaj muaj zoo mem txas". That mean
Hmoob twb los txog Sojtshoj lawm Hmoob mam tsim tau nqe foom kom no.


Txhob tu siab txog cov kwvtij kuv teev dhaus los no. Hmoob tuaj ntxog
USA no cov txim (dab roog) tsis tseemceeb rau Hmoob lawm.



Victor Yang

xyeejtsawg

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Apr 6, 2012, 1:48:29 AM4/6/12
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Dab Victor kuv tsuas hais raws lis kuv yawm txiv hais qhias kuv xwb,
raws lis
yawm txiv hais mas nej tsis muaj kwv tij es lawv thiaj tuaj tos nej
thiab yawm txiv
nyiaj xeeb, yawm txiv ntsuab xwm, lawv los nrog cov yaj phuv phee nyob
uas
kwv tij txij thaum ntawd los ces nej thiaj uas ib pab ib pawg thiaj
muab hus uas
yaj phuv phee nos xwb, hos hais txog mus lav tshoob lav kos mas koj
txiv mus

lav rau yaj phuv phee lawv twb tsis kam lawv yuav tsum kom yawm txiv
nchaiv
tswb mus lav mas thiaj tas xwb, raws lis kuv paub mas yog hmoob lis
tuaj yuav
txog rau hmoob yaj ces yeej yog yawm txiv nchaiv tswb uas tus tsawb
tshoob
hos yog hmoob yaj mus yuav hmoob lis ces yuav tsum yog yawm txiv
nchaiv tswb
mus xwb,yog koj mus ces lawv yeej hais kias tias koj txiv nej muaj nej
ib pab nej lav
tsis tau, xws lis Dab nkia tub tuaj nws poj niam nyob rau lub zos
Syracuse, NY
Dab laug paj cawb yuav nws poj niam, cov hmoob lis xam luam yeej tsis
tseev lis

yuav tsum kom tus tseem2 yaj phu phee xwb mas tshoob kos thiaj tiav
thaum kawg
Dab laug paj ntxhev thiaj tau tuaj.

nyob zoo

kwvtijhmoob

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On Apr 5, 4:35 pm, surithay <souayang...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Kwvtij, Koj paub tijlaug Vajtsab zoo Los, ob/peb hnub
> Dhau Los kuv ntsib tijlaug pem khw Hmoob yawg kuj noj qab nyob zoo.

dr suav-- kuv paub dab laug vajtsab zoo los mas. dab laug vajtsab yaj
mas yav tag los nws pheej ua-ua txiv qeej thiab kuv ho raug-raug hauj
lwm tom tsev txias thiab ces wb sib tham sib paub xwb. tab sis tau ib
ntus no tsis pom nws ua txiv qeej lawm es thiaj nug xwb. dhau li
ntawd los kuv kuj paub nws cov tub thiab. nws cov tub mas raws li kuv
paub mas zoo li muaj victor, tub, thiab bee xwb sub.

phwvnyawm-- koj tus txiv ntxawm Zam Muas Yaj ko mas kuv ho tsis paub
thiab ov, tab sis kuv paub Nkaj Huas thiab kaus maus das Vam Kaim
zoo. qhia me me rau koj tias kuv thiab koj ces yog yawm yij yawm dab
lawm nawb, tab sis yog koj tuaj july 4th no tiag no ces teem caij es
wb sib ntsib... koj los saib kuv hauv kuv tseg kiag. kuv thiab dr.
suav wb nyob ib lug nroog xwb. kuv mam li nrho koj txiv nomkhwb hwj
me cawv tsau ntsuaj los wb tsoo khob tso mam sib zeem hnub ntawd
nawb. 2 lub july 4 diam, seb koj tuaj rau lub twg. kuv mam mus
ntsib koj. qhov zoo mas teem wb sib ntsib tom lav52 night club kiag
xwb es thiaj tau tsoo beer.


kwvtijhmoob

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On Apr 5, 10:36 pm, Victor Yang <victoryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmoob Yaj yeej muaj tib tug Yaj xwb yog Yaj 9 txig li koj hais.  Leej
> txiv xav tau ntaus tus pojniam tabsi ua tsis tau txiv.  Niamhloj ua
> dab roog yuav ua rau nws 9 tug tub xwb, niam nrab pom hais tias niam
> hlob ua rau niamhlob cov xwb, niam nrab thiaj ua rau niam nrab 6 tug
> tub thiab ib tug vauv.  Niam yau los hais tias, niam hlob tsuas ua rau
> niam hlob 9 tug tub. Niam nrab tsuas ua rau niam nrab 6 tug tub thiab
> ib tug vauv ces niam yau thiaj ua rau niam yau 5 tug tub.
> Txij hnub ntawd los thiaj muaj Yaj 9 txig, Yaj 7 txim, Yaj 5 txig.
> Yaj 3 txig yog Yaj txias.

victor-- tsis yog nej cov yaj xwb, txhua xeem hmoob yeej muaj cov muaj
txim sib txawv li nej cov yaj thiab. yog hnub twg dr. suav yaj thiab
dr. suav thoj lawv lub koomhaum ua tau lawv lub xab pha lawm tiag, kuv
yuav mus propose rau hmoob xab pha kom hmoob txhua xeem ua 1 txig lawm
xwb. make it simple and same for all. qhov no yog qhov kuv npaj yuav
mus propose rau hmoob xab phaj tom ntej no ntag nawb.

by the way, koj puas tseem nyob nroog brooklyn center ne? koj txiv
lawv ho khiav tawm tim cov tsev luam lyndale/olson hwy mus nyob rau
qhov twg lawm tom qab lawv muab cov tsev ntawd tsoo pov tseg tas nas.
tau ntev lawm tsis tau sib ntsib lawm. koj so kam (retired) lawm los
tsis tau? hnov tias koj tab tom sau ib phau ntawd txog hmong
educators no es puas tau tiav thiab. thaum twg tiav no ho qhia es mam
tuaj pab txhawb yuav los rau tej tub thiab tej ntxhais kawm txog peb
hmoob keeb kwm thiab.







surithay

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Apr 6, 2012, 9:13:25 AM4/6/12
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Kwvtij,
Koj hu tijlaug Vajtsab ua dablaug no yog dablaug txiv los yog dablaug
nus? Cia Phwv tuaj txog peb mas li sib ntsib seb koj yog tus pojntsoog
twg es kuv yuav twv tsis tau koj kiag li. Bee Kevin Xyooj thiab koj
ne... neb yog ib phaj los leej twg yog txiv-leej twg yog tub? Kos
Xyooj Appleton-Hmong radio ne. ho yog lawm licas rau koj? Kuv nug koj
li no mas vim kuv muaj qhov txheeb nkawv.
Sib ntsib dua.

kwvtijhmoob

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Apr 6, 2012, 9:45:47 AM4/6/12
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On Apr 6, 8:13 am, surithay <souayang...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Kwvtij,
> Koj hu tijlaug Vajtsab ua dablaug no yog dablaug txiv los yog dablaug
> nus? Cia Phwv tuaj txog peb mas li sib ntsib seb koj yog tus pojntsoog
> twg es kuv yuav twv tsis tau koj kiag li. Bee Kevin Xyooj thiab koj
> ne... neb yog ib phaj los leej twg yog txiv-leej twg yog tub? Kos
> Xyooj Appleton-Hmong radio ne. ho yog lawm licas rau koj? Kuv nug koj
> li no mas vim kuv muaj qhov txheeb nkawv.

dr. suav-- tu siab tias peb yog cov hmoob moos mauj. peb yog cov los
poob rau sab tsis muaj kev kawm ntaub ntawv tsis muaj ces peb feem
coob yeej tsis tau tuaj kawm ntawv siab nyob rau nroog loj li viacas
li nej cov nyob sab qaum teb. peb yog neeg phaub haib phaub nas xwb.
ntawv nplog ces phuab lab aj daib khiam pis xwb. tuaj teb chaws no
los peb cov hmoob xyooj moos mauj kuj tuaj tau tsis coob. hmoob xyooj
kuj muaj coob nyob teb chaws no thiab, tab sis kuv kiag los yeej tsis
paub lawv zoo thiab. qhov tseeb ces yus yog me nyuam neeg nyob qhab
qis qis xwb ces lawv cov qhab loj li Bee Kevin Xyooj thiab Kos Xyooj
lawv cov no yus yeej tsis kam txav ti thiab no ov. qhia koj tias tus
kuv paub zoo me ntsis ces yog peter phiab xyooj, tus owner ntawm xov
tooj cua kpnp1600 xwb. kuv thiab peter yog lawv ib phaj los mas.

teb koj txog ntawm dab laug vajtsab yaj mas nws yog dab laug txiv
lawm. yuav kom phwvnyawm thiab koj peb sib paub zoo mas kawg qhov
yuav tsum tau tsoo beer lawm xwb mas ntshe thiaj yuav sib paub xwb
lauv. kav tsij npaj tuaj lawm tom lav52 xwb. mam kom phawvnyawm tuaj
ntsib wb rau tod thiab kuv mam li hu rau phwvnyawm txiv nomkhwb nqa 2
hwj cawv cub tuaj ntxiv thiab es peb mam tsoo khob tov xwb mas.







surithay

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Kwvtij, ua tsaug rau koj cov lus teb, tos kuv tau nug koj los vim kuv
pojniam yog Kos tus tijlaug ntxhais. Nug kom paub thiaj li paub sib hu
xwb. Peter Phiab ces kuv paub yawg zoo thiab kuv kuj paub yawg txiv
Nyiaj Npis vim kuv tau qhia ntawv rau Phiab ob tug kwv-Tsawb thiab
Hawj nkawv. Hais txog ntawm kev kawm ntawv siab thiab qis tsis yog ib
yam loj rau kuv. Kev kawm ntawv yog kawm kom nrhiav tau noj tau haus
xwb. Yog nyias tus kheej npaj nyias lub neej rau yav pem suab xwb.
Hais txog kev ua nomtswv, cojnoj, cojua ces tsis yog cov Dr. thiaj li
ua tau. Leejtwg los yeej muaj peevxwm ua tau seb yus puas muaj lub
siabloj siabdav, nyiam kwvtij neejtsa thiab haus tau Black Label li
Born hais xwb. Tos Phwvnyawm tuaj tso peb mam li mus nrog lawv xyaum
hau black Label nawb!

Hmoob St. Paul

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Ua cas es tsam no nej cia li tham txog kwv tij lawm xwb es tsis hais
txog poj niam hais zaj tshoob li lawm na... tsis ua cas, mloog nej
hais txog nej tej kwv tej tij tej txheeb tej ze ces twb lom zem kawg
lawm.

Surithay, hnub i pom koj thiab koj poj niam neb mus taj laj, tsis tau
los hu koj tab sis zoo li ntu no koj kaj siab lawm ntau es nrog koj
zoo siab nawb. Pom tus zoo nyob sab ntuj tim ub los yuav tau qhia
thiab saib puas muaj sijhawm mus xyuas lawv thiab. j/k.

surithay

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On Apr 6, 10:11 am, "Hmoob St. Paul" <hmoobstpaul2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hmoob St. Paul, koj pom wb qhov twg naj! yog vim licas ho tsis los hu.
Seb koj puas kam ua vauv Thaib xwb? Yog kam ces kuv tseem tshuav cov
niamhluas kwvtij coob. Puas kam nrog kuv mus cog ntoo yas.... lawv lub
zos mas ntoo yas ntau heev li.

kwvtijhmoob

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On Apr 6, 10:15 am, surithay <souayang...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> tos kuv tau nug koj los vim kuv
> pojniam yog Kos tus tijlaug ntxhais.

auv... yog li ov. tus kwvtij kos xyooj ntawd kuv kuj hnov npe lawm
thiab tab sis tsis tau ntsib thiab pom thiab ov. txawm li cas los zoo
siab koj tau peb cov noob dais lawm thiab. yog li yuav tau hlub kom
kawg nawb. peb cov ntxhais taw dai mas muaj ntsis coj ncha ov.

Yaj Tshaj Koob

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On Apr 6, 10:11 am, "Hmoob St. Paul" <hmoobstpaul2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hmong ST. Paul,

Koj hais yog lawm laus, pib lub ncauj lus no, hom mus tham lwm lub
ncauj lus txawv lawm,

>......................................................................................tsis tau
> los hu koj tab sis zoo li ntu no koj kaj siab lawm ntau es nrog koj
> zoo siab nawb. Pom tus zoo nyob sab ntuj tim ub los yuav tau qhia
> thiab saib puas muaj sijhawm mus xyuas lawv thiab. j/k.

Kuv hais rau koj tias tsi txhob mus ntshaw tej li koj tham no, yog
tias koj yeej yog ib tus txiv neej 100% yuav tib tus poj niam xwb tsi
muaj 2-3-4 lwm tus li no ces koj yog ib tus zoo txiv neej paub qab hau
txog neeg lub neej ntawm lub cuab yig zoo kawg lawm, ho ntshai yog koj
yeej yog hom uas muaj coob tus dhau los lawm no ces tsi paub hais
lawm, nyob txij koj txawj ua xwb.

Yus ua ib tus qauv zoo yog zoo rau lub cuab yig hauv ib yim neej, hauv
lub cuab yim neej tsuas muaj kev sib yuav yog ib tug poj niam thiab ib
tug txiv neej nyob ua ib cuab ib yig xwb no mas thiaj muaj kev kaj
siab, thiab tej me tub me nyuam thiaj tsi muaj kev tu siab rau yus,
tej tub kis thiaj saib yus tam li lub ntuj.

Cov neeg yuav coob tus los sis nrauj txiv nrau poj niam coob tus ntawd
txhais tau tias yus kheej tsi tsheej haj rau lub cuab yig pes tsawg,
tej tub ki me nyuam nyob ua lub neej ntxhov nyho, tsi qab siab kawm
ntaub ntawv, thaum kawm tau los txog los muaj kev tu siab loj, thaum
muaj ib rooj noj los txhawb siab los sis rooj noj es muaj kev hais lus
txog txoj kev kawm los nws twb tsi paub yuav tuav niam los sis txiv
lub npe, thiab twb tsi muaj lub ntsej muag luag li lwm tus uas muaj
niam thiab txiv tseem nyob khov kho ua ib ke ib yim. Thaum twg tej me
nyuam los qhib ncauj hais lus los tsuas pom lub kua muag poob vim niam
txiv lub neej sib nrauj, lub neej tsi tsheej cuab ntseg yim.

Txawm yuav pes tsawg tus los yuav mus tsi txog twg nawb, qhov yuav zoo
yog yus tus kheej coj ua thiaj tau, yus yog ib tus coj tsi zoo piam
cuab ces nyob ze luag yuav taw ncauj, nyob deb luag yuav taw tes.

Thaub ub kuv hnov koj hais txog pog mebthaub tas li nyaj koj tsheej
haj thiab pauj?


YTK

Victor Yang

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On Apr 7, 7:52 am, Yaj Tshaj Koob <mutant_l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 10:11 am, "Hmoob St. Paul" <hmoobstpaul2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ua cas es tsam no nej cia li tham txog kwv tij lawm xwb es tsis hais
> > txog poj niam hais zaj tshoob li lawm na... tsis ua cas, mloog nej
> > hais txog nej tej kwv tej tij tej txheeb tej ze ces twb lom zem kawg
> > lawm.
>
> > Surithay, hnub i pom koj thiab koj poj niam neb mus taj laj, tsis tau
> > los hu koj tab sis zoo li ntu no koj kaj siab lawm ntau es nrog koj
> > zoo siab nawb.  Pom tus zoo nyob sab ntuj tim ub los yuav tau qhia
> > thiab saib puas muaj sijhawm mus xyuas lawv thiab. j/k.
>
> Hmong ST. Paul,
>
> Koj hais yog lawm laus,  pib lub ncauj lus no, hom mus tham lwm lub
> ncauj lus txawv lawm,
>
> >.......................................................................... ............tsis tau
Yawmyij Xyeejtsawg;


Raws li twm koj cov lus mas koj yuav peb cov ntxhais YPP thiab koj
teev tau kuv txiv Vaj Tsab Yaj, Nchaiv Tswb Yaj, Paj Txheej Yaj, Nyiaj
Xeeb Yaj, Ntsuab Xwm Yaj, Nkias Tub Yaj, & Xaiv Muas Yaj zoo. Yawg
Yaj Suav Nplaib, yawg Yaj Tuam, Yawg Yaj Xwm thiab Yaj Lwv lawv yog
kwvtij niamtxiv yug ib phab. Naikong Txwj Zeb Yaj Phwvnyawm yog Yawg
Suav Nplaib tub xeeb ntxwv. Yawg Nchaiv Tswb or Yawg Paj Tsheej
(Naikhou Kab Yeeb) yog Yaj Lwv cov tub xeeb ntxwv. Kuv yawg Tooj Choj
yog Yaj Tuam tub xeebntxwv.

1850 Yawg Suab Npliab, yawg Yaj Lwv thiab cov kwvtij thiab Hmoob khiav
Tuamtshoj los rau Sovtshoj (China to Indo-China) lawm. Yawg Yaj Tuam
tsis los vim Suav tuaj tsa Yaj Tuam ua tus coj cov Hmoob nyob rau Tuam
Laj (Tuam Laj Ntxwv) ua nyob Southern Yunnan. Thaum yawg Yaj Suav
Nplaib thiab Yawg Yaj Lwv lawv khiav los txog Tiaj Nquab ze Tuam Phwv
Lis ces yawg Yaj Lwv tuag. Yaj Lwv muaj ib tug tub hu ua Npliam (Yaj
Txoov Npliam). Raws lis cov laus hais mas thaum txiv (Yaj Lwv) tuag
mas Yawg Txoov Npliam muaj 3 tag kis. Txiv Hmoob Vwj txawm tuaj yuav
pog Lwv thiab pog Lwv txawm coj yawg Txoov Npliam los ua Hmoob Vwj
lawm. Txiv Hmoob Vwj ces txawm yog Txoov Tuam Vwj yawg, or Cwjmem or
Vwj Loob yawg koob ntag.

Yawg Txoov Npliam los loj hlob rau txiv Hmoob Vwj, txiv Hmoob Vwj tsa
cuab tsa yim rau yawg Txoov Npliam. Ua nyuj dab rau txiv Hmoob Vwj
tuag ib tug menyuam, ua nyuj dab rau txiv Hmoob Yaj tuag tug menyuam.
Thaum kawg dab Hmoob Yaj nrhiav tau ces thiaj rov ua Hmoob Yaj tabsi
nrog Hmoob Vwj nyob muab Hmoob Vwj ua kwv ua tij txog 1953 ua kuv txiv
yuav kuv niam, thiab dablaug Tswv Vaj Vwj tuaj yuav phauj Ntxawm
(Phauj Ntxawm, or Phauj Txawj Hluas Thoj) uas yog yawg Nchaiv Tswb tus
muam ntxawm. 1965 thaum Yawg Soob Ntxawg tuag tseem kom yawmtxiv
Txoov Tuam Vwj tuaj ua cuabtsav.

Yawg Txoov Npliam muaj 3 tug tub: Paj Nus, Ntsuab Lwm, Nom Pov. 1870
yawg Yaj Tuam tuag nyob Tuam Laj Ntxwv (Southern Yunnan), Yawg Nyiaj
Xab uas yog Yaj Tuam tub thiaj khiav los raws cov kwvtij uas khiav
los Nplogteb thiab los nrhiav tau yawg Txoov Npliam nyob Poos Xas
thiaj Phaws Twm. 1900 Yawg Ntsuab Lwm tuag thiaj muab pog Ntsuab lwm
txis rau kuv yawg suab Nyiaj Xab uas kuv yawg Tooj Choj yawm.

Pog Ntsuab Lwm muab yawg Ntsuab Lwm 2 tug tub: Neej Lauj thiab XAIV
KHWB thiab los yug tau ib tug tub rau yawg Nyiaj Xab, tus tub ntawd
tus tub tug yawg Paj Tsav uas yog txiv Vaj Neeb thiab txiv Nom Yias
lawv txiv or Txias Xeev Xwm yawg. Yawg Xaiv Khwb yog BEE YANG Fresno
yawg koob ntag.

1918 kuv yawg koob Nkaj Siab Yaj tuag, pog Nkaj Siab tau coj nws cov
menyuam mus raws neej tsa rau Moos Phaj Moos Nyab. Xyoo 1949 cov
kwvtij (Yawg Soob Ntxawg, Yawg Ncaiv Tswb, yawg Nkias Pov, yawg Paj
Tsav) lawv mam tuaj tos kuv yawg Tooj Choj rov los rau Xam Kiam (Tha
Chor). 1952 Yawg Tooj Choj, Yawg Nchaiv Tswb thiab yawg Soob Ntxawg
lawv coj cov kwvtij tsiv los rau zos Phuv Phees.

Kuv coj kev cai tshiab (lawb dab lawm) tabsi kuv txiv lawm tseem coj
kevcai qub. Kuv txiv, kuv cov kwv cov txiv ntawm lawv koom tib tug
dab qhuas nrog cov kwvtij YPP. Tam sim no (2012) kuv tus kwv Tswv Kav
(Yeeb Pov) yog tus coj tshoob coj kos tag pab kwvtij YPP nyob Fresno,
California. 1980s kuv txiv yog tus coj tshoob kos nyob Minnesota,
thaum 1990s txiv Paj Txoos yog tus coj, 2010 no Soob Cai yog tus coj.

Yawg Xaiv Vas thiab yawm Ntsuab Xwm lawv muaj dab qhuas tiag. Tabsi
kuv txiv thiab kuv yawg lawv teev thiab ntseeg tibtug dab qhuas ua cov
kwvtij Phuv Phees ntseg. Tam sim no kuv txiv muaj noj kuv txiv tseem
laig txog: Tooj Tuam, Txooj Tsab, Txooj Muas, Txooj Vws, Nchaiv Tswb,
Txoos Xab, Nyiaj Kaus, Npuag Vaj, Soob Ntxawg .......... cov kwvtij
YPP muaj noj los lawv yuav tsum laig txog Tooj Choj thiaj tag. Yawg
Xaiv Vas yog yawm Npliaj Tub thiab yawg Naiskong Paj Txoov Yaj pab
thiab yog yawg Suab Nplaib caj nces.

Vim cov kwvtij YPP mus ua menyuam Hmoob Vwj, nrog Hmoob Vwj nyob, raws
Hmoob Vwj tau 4 tiam neej thiab tsis paub dab (UA TAIG LAIG) lawm es
dab qhuas thiaj txawv yawg Xaiv Vas, yawg Npliaj Tub, Naikong Paj
Txoos, Tojxeem Npliaj Pov, yawg Zam Yaj Saub (Chao Muang Ntsuab Toog),
Naikong Txwj Zeb lawv lawm xwb. Tiag tiag peb yog ib tsevneeg.

Thaum tseem nyob Phuv Phees yawg Nchaiv Tswb yeej yog tus coj, tabsi
tom qab (1966) yawg Nchaiv tag sim neej lawm yog yawg Paj Zeb, yawg
Txooj Lauj, txiv Txooj Tsab lawv yog cov coj lawm. 1987 Tswb (Nkias
Tub) tuaj yuav pojniam pem Syracuse, NY twb yog kuv txiv (Vaj Tsab)
tuaj lav tshoob ne? es kuv txiv thiaj mag Lis Pheej lawv cem txaus
nkuas. Vim thaum ntawd Lis Pheej tus tub yuav Txwj Pov tus ntxhais es
txiv Tub Huas thiab Pab Ntxheb peb cov hluas siab kub thiab ua heev
heev rau Lis Pheej lawv. Tabsi Hmoob Lis los muaj ntxhais zoo nkauj
thiab txiv Paj Cawv (Xaiv Muas) thiab Tswb (Nkias Tub) mus yuav kiag
cov ntxhais Hmoob Lis New York es thiaj mag lawm cem. Txiv Xaiv Muas
yuav yijlaug Txoov Tuam (Thoj Thaiv) ntxhais, Nyiaj Nruas tuaj thiab
cov kwvtij Hmoob Yaj Pennsylvania tuaj pab hais.


Yij Xyeejtsawg, kuv tham ntaus zog lawm los thov txhob tu siab. Koj
yuav leej twg ntxhais? koj yawm txiv hu li cas? thov qhia kuv puas
tau?



Victor Yang

Victor Yang

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Kwvtijhmoob;


Kuv tseem nyob Brooklyn Center, Minnesota. Tamsim no kuv txiv nrog
kuv tus kwv Npis nyob rau North Minneapolis. Hais txog ntawm phau
ntawv Hmong Formal Education kuv yeej sau li hais tiag. Vim kuv yog
tus Director of Education rau Yang Wang Meng Association - USA. Vim
cov neeg uas pheej caw kuv mus hais lus yog cov niamtxiv uas tsis paub
lub English zoo. Vim cov thawjcoj thiab niamtxiv feem coob tsis paub
lus. Vim kuv xav kom cov kwvtij Hmoob Nplog thiab Hmoob Thaib twm tau
mas thawj phau no kuv sau ua lus Hmoob (ntawv Latin). Lwm phau or kuv
phau dissertation rau kuv daim D.Ed. sau ua English.

Last month (March) 2012 xovtooj cua KPNP 1600 AM (Peter Phia Xiong)
twb caw kuv mus hais lus kuv twb tham me me rau hauv xov tooj cua
lawm. Yog koj xav hais tias zoo, txhob ua siab deb, txhob ntshais
yeej meem hu xov tooj rau kuv nrog kuv tham thiab tuaj nqa ib copy mus
saib tej zaum yuav pab tau koj. Kuv sau txog: 1 Tsevneeg Lyfoung
kev kawm txuj. 2. Hmoob Nplog kev kawm txuj ua ntej 1975. 3. Vim
Nplog kev vammeej ua ntej 1975. 4. Hmoob kev kawm txuj nyob USA.
5. Hmoob Amelicas kev vam meej. 6. Pojniam Hmoob kev kawm txuj.

Kuv twm kwvlam 300 tawm phau ntawv: Hmong History books,
dissertations, thesis, thiab tej articles uas cov scholars sau lawm.
Txawm li ntawd los kuv yog tus research txog rau sab Hmoob Education,
kuv pom hais tias tsim nyog Hmoob yuav tsum paub yog li kuv thiaj npaj
siab los sau. Thov hu xovtooj rau kuv (Victor Yang) (763) 447-0634.


Ua tsaug;


Victor Yang

xyeejtsawg

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Dab victor Kuv yeej paub koj zoo2 heev mas koj txiv los kuv yeej hus
ua dab laug
lau hos koj mas yog dab laug hluas, kuv yeej paub koj puag tim phuv
phee los lawm
koj muaj ib tug muam hus uas maiv lws, hos muaj ib tug kwv hus
uas[ keb] kuv yeej
xav qhias koj kawg tab sis koj thiab kuv wb tsis koom ib lub ntuj nes,
hais txog cov
yaj phuv phees ces kuv yeej paub tas nrhos txij lis koj tus kwv keb
lawv rov los,
kuv yeej paub tas nrhos thiab cov laus suav daws,


lob nyab loo zab loj keev

Victor Yang

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Yawmyij Xyeejtsawg;

Koj yuav tsum tau qhia kuv saib koj yog leej twg?, nyob qhov twg? Npe
hu li cas? Koj yawm txiv yog leej twg? Txhob ntshai, txhob rhiab.
Koj paub kuv zoo, paub cov kwvtij Phuv Phees zoo, koj yuav tsum yog
txiv Paj Txoos (Ntaj Txoov Leej) thiab dablaug Vaj Npliam lawv phaum
lawm. Vim kuv tus kwv Zeb (Keb) mas nyob Phuv Phees thiaj hu xwb,
thaum peb tawg rog los rau Nang Keng, them Phou Kong Khao (Pas Qav),
Nam Vet (Naj Vej) lub npe Keb tsis hu lawm. Kuv tus muam Maiv Tooj
(Maiv Lwv) los nyob Phuv Phees thiaj hu Maiv Lwv xwb, thaum peb tawg
tebchaws sawv daws hu ua Maiv Tooj lawm xwb.

Koj tuaj hauv SCH no koj twb tsis hais phem es ntshai leej twg? Qhov
koj looj nab kaj xiam sijhawm xwb. Cov yuav looj nab kaj masyog cov
tham tob tob li Vaajmoob, Yajtshajkoob, Cwjmem, Vajncuab lawv xwb
paub?


Victor Yang



phwvnyawm

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Victor,

Kuv yeej muaj ntau yam yuav tham txog peb tsev kwv tij yaj5 txig.Tiam
sis cia kuv muaj caij tso nrog koj tham dua.

Hais txog yij Xyeejtsawg mas nws yawm txiv ces yog txiv ntxawm Paj
Lis. Ua li thaum koj tsis tau tuaj hauv no kuv nrog yij Xyeej tsawg
tham.Peb nyob hauv Fresno mas lawv phaj txiv cov hu ua Paj Lis muaj 3
leeg
1 tug ces yog yawg yawm txiv tus no ces hais txog ntawm roj ntshav ces
txheeb koj ntag raws li koj tham hnub i ces nws hu yawg Nom Yeeb ua
txiv ntxawm no ned.Tus Paj Lis no naj. Tus Paj iIs 2 mas yog tus
txheeb toj xeem Xaiv Suav.Tus 3 ces yog txheeb kuv yog kuv cov txiv
ntxawm kwv tij thooj dab koom qhua.Hnub mas kuv hnov yij Xyeej tsawg
hais tias TuamLij Koob nkawv sib txheeb no sub? Yij Xyeej Tsawg yeej
yog nej cov hmoob nyob koom teb,koom chaw los. yawg tham mas tsuas
tham cov neeg nyob koom zos xwb yawg tsis paub txog tus cag caj ces
los.....ib yam peb yawg Nchaiv Kuam,yawg Nom Pov txiv Paj Tsab
txiv,yawg Nkias Pov thiab yawg Laj Laub lawv.....lawv cov no yog hmoob
nyob Roob Nyuj nrog peb nyob......tiam sis lawv khiav los nrog nej
nyob rau sab Tsua Vaj ces lawv cia li ua neeg hmoob Xeev lawm......cov
tsis paub caj ces zoo ces peb thiab lawv yog hmoob xwb tsis sib
txheeb.....qhov tseeb tiag peb koom pog,koom yawg los.
Sib ntsib dua


xyeejtsawg

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Dab phwv, koj txhob txaw2 tham mas cias nws twv kuv nad
yeej yog lis koj hais mas Dab phwv caj hmab ceg ncau mas kuv tsis
paub tiag, ntawm kuv los kuj yog roj ntsha hmoob yaj thiab, kuv
thiaj hus cov dab laug lau thiab dab hluas uas kes,

Dab victor kuv tsis yog Dab laug paj txoo lawv phaum os ntawm koj
thiab kuv mas tej zaum koj yuav uas tij me ntsi los tsi paub hos
ntawm koj tus kwv zeb thiab kuv mas xav hais tias tej zaum yuav kem
hnub xwb los tsi paub, hos ntawm Tuam lij koob wb mas yog tij
yug thiab kwv yug xwb, Dab victor thaum koj tuaj mus uas kas moos
rau phus koo qhob ntawd Tuam lij koob niam twb coj nej los noj mov

hauv Tuam lij koob lawd tsev vim tias Tuam lij koob niam yog hmoob
yaj thiab. Dab victor koj txawm paub kuv los koj yeej xav hais tias
kuv tsis
txheeb koj hos hais txog ntawm roj ntsha ces koj thiab kuv wb yog kwv
tij
kwv npawg xwb yog koj xav paub tiag los tau kawg mas thaum twg koj tau
tuaj rau Fresno hais qhias kuv paub kuv mam coj koj los saib kuv koj
thiaj
paub kuv tseeb txawm wb sib phoom kiag los koj yeej tsis paub kuv2
thiaj
paub koj xwb,

cuag lis yuav hais siab nej cov uas dab laug me ntsi kuv yeej hnov ib
txhias
Dab laug hais tias tsuas muaj yawm yij K txog dab laug xwb Dab laug
yeej
tsi tshuas K txog yawm yij no

Victor Yang

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Phwv;


Yog hais li koj hais ces kuv paub Yij Xyeejtsawg lawm. Yij
Xyeejntsawg yog T. M. Lauj, niam yog kuv ib tug phauj txeeb txeeb
(Phauj Xaiv Phiab Lauj). Yij Xyeejntsawg pojniam yog kuv ib tug muam
hu ua Maiv Nyiaj, Yij Xyeejntsawg yawmtxiv yog txiv ntxawm Paj Lis Yaj
tam sim no yog Chico, California, thiab tus dablaug hlob yog Phouma
Yang ua thaum ub nrog Yang See Glass Man nyob Looj Ceeb thiab nrog
Yang see family tuaj Amelicas teb no. Tam sim no Phouma nyob Elgin,
Illinois.

Yij Xyeejntsawg yuav tsis paub Naikong Nchaiv Kuam Yaj, Naikong Laj
Laub Yaj, Naikong Nkias Pov Yaj thiab yawm Nom Pov lawv. Vim thaum
peb tseem nyob Sam Luang Phou Da Pho mas Yij Xyeejtsawg tseem yau
(about 8 years old). 1970 - 71 peb tawg rog ces lawv khiav los mus
nyob Thong Miem lawm. 1975 - 76 ces lawv mus nyob Ban Sai (Phou Lue)
lawm yij Xyeejtsawg yuav tsis paub lawv zoo.

Hais txog ntawm 3 tug Paj Lis Yaj koj hais mas kuv paub zoo. Yij
Xyeejtsawg yawmtxiv yog Paj Lis Yaj YPP. uas yog Col. Ntsuab Vaj Lis
thiab Maj. Nom Pus Lis yawm yij. Vim li no mas Phouma thiaj tuaj nrob
Yang See Glass Man nyob thiab Yang See thiaj coj Phouma mus ua haujlwm
rau SKY. Tus Paj Lis 2 uas yog Tojxeem Xaiv Suav kwv or Dr. Vong Yang
txiv mas lawv nyob hauv Fresno, CA no. 1976 - 77 kuv mus nrog Tojxeem
Xaiv Suav thiab tus Paj Lis Yaj 2 no nyob Pha Khao kuv paub nws zoo.
Tus Paj Lis 3 uas koj hais los kuv paub zoo.



Victor Yang

Moghlub

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Nyob zoo Victor,

Tsi tau sis ntsib dlua es sov kawm lawm phaaj txiv los le caag. Sub koj nim tsi thaam tub, tub le lov. Kuv saib yaav dhlau lug koj kuj thaam tub kawg hab los sav. Koj tub yog ib tug paub xwmtxheej teb chaws zoo kawg le hab nev.. Es thaam tub tub (tob tob) nua yog thaam lawm seem twg nua maj?

M

xyeejtsawg

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On Apr 8, 3:36 pm, Moghlub <mogh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nyob zoo Victor,
>
> Tsi tau sis ntsib dlua es sov kawm lawm phaaj txiv los le caag. Sub koj nim tsi thaam tub, tub le lov. Kuv saib yaav dhlau lug koj kuj thaam tub kawg hab los sav. Koj tub yog ib tug paub xwmtxheej teb chaws zoo kawg le hab nev.. Es thaam tub tub (tob tob) nua yog thaam lawm seem twg nua maj?
>

Nev2222 Dab phwv koj pheej txawj tham los pov tsam nos Dab victor nte
tau poj ntxoog lawm
tiag ned poj ntxoog yuav tau mus tsau quav nyuj tiag laus txawm lis
cas los Dab victor yeej tsis
paub kuv lis sib phoom los nws yeej tsis paub lis kuv thiaj paub nws
xwb.

Dab victor zoo lawm uas koj twv tau tab sis uas zoo tsam koj nte tau
poj ntxoog muaj kau
nhiav tom koj tes nawb, nte tau tus tsis muaj kau hniav ces tau coj
los tsau quav nyuj
tsis ntev ces tau uas neeg zoo lawm.

nyob zoo koj

Victor Yang

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Moghlub;



Kuv twb hais tias cov zoo li koj (Moghlub, Yij Xyeegtsawg,
Tuamlijkoob, thiab kwvtijhmoob) nej mas tsis chanphen yuav looj nab
kaj, hais kiag npe, tuav kiag npe, qhia kiag npe no nes. Cov yuav
looj nab kaj mas yog cov tham tob tob li Vaajmoob, Yajtshajkoob,
Cwjmem thiab Vaajncuab lawv mas thiab tsim nyob looj nab kaj. Kuv
(Victor Yang) twb tsis zais roj zais hneev, tsis looj nab kaj li ne?
Yog yuav tham tob li cas los kuv yeej tham tau.


Victor Yang

Victor Yang

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Yij Xyeejtsawg;


Tsam no kuv paub koj zoo lawm. Peb sib ncaim tshaj 40 xyoo lawm. Kuv
nco tias kuv ntsib koj zaum kawg yog June 1971 thaum kuv tuaj Nam Vet
(Naj Vej) tuaj mus xeem ntawv (xeem P4) nyob Muang Cha es kuv los
xyuas phauj nej thiab los noj tshais hauv nej xwb. Txij thaum ntawd
los cev kuv tsis ntsib nej li lawm. Koj tijlaug Tub Txoov los kuv
ntsib zaum kawg nyob Looj Ceeb thaum May 12, 1975 xwb, tav no kuv yeej
tsis ntsib yawg li.

Txawm li ntawd los kuv yeej tseem nco tau koj lub npe zoo. Yij
Xyeejtsawg ob hnub no koj yawm txiv (txiv Paj Lis) noj li cas nyob li
cas lawm? Puas zoo me ntsis? Yijlaug Xaiv Phiab ne nej tseem nyob
tag hauv Oroville, CA no los tsiv mus rau qhov twg lawm? Hais rau
yijlaus paub tias kuv niam kuv txiv, txiv Ntsuab Pos ntxawm Ntsuab Pos
puav leej noj qab nyob zoo no nawb.


Ua tsaug;

Dablaug Victor Yang


xyeejtsawg

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Dab victor; hais txog ntawm yawm txiv los kuj khee me ntsi lawm
thiab
yuav kom zoo lis qub mas tsis zoo lis ntawd lawm nws yeej zaum
wheelchair lawm xwb vim nws yeej muaj hnub nyoog lawm thiab os.

Hos hais txog kuv txiv yug kuv los kuj nyob zoo thiab tsis muaj dab
tsis
thiab os, ntawm koj thiab kuv yeej yog lis koj hais lawm peb tawg
nram
pas qav los ces yeej tsis pom koj lis lawm tsuas pom koj ib pliag lis
koj
hais xwb txog rau nej hnub no los tsuas hnov koj nyob pem ko xwb tab
sis yeej tsis ntsib koj thiab, koj txiv mas kuv kuj ntsib ob zaug lawm
thiab

koj txiv kuj tham2 ntau yam rau kuv thiab kuj muaj tej yam tus siab
tej
yam kuj zoo siab, lub sij hawm ntawd kuv tsis nyob lawm ces koj tus
muam kuj coj koj txiv , dab laug ntsuab pov thiab kuv txiv yug kuv
lawv
mus noj mov koj txiv kuj tham2 ntau yam rau koj tus muam thiab.

nyob zoo koj thiab tsev neeg

kwvtijhmoob

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On Apr 7, 2:12 pm, Victor Yang <victoryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kuv tseem nyob Brooklyn Center, Minnesota.  Tamsim no kuv txiv nrog
> kuv tus kwv Npis nyob rau North Minneapolis.

zoo kawg. tau ib ntus no tsis pom koj txiv ua txiv qeej lawm. kuv
tseem xav tias ntshe nej tsev neeg khiav mus nyob txawm lav lawm los
yog ua cas no. yog li ces peb sawvdaws ham tsis tseem nyob koom zej
koom zos xwb las as.

> Hais txog ntawm phau
> ntawv Hmong Formal Education kuv yeej sau li hais tiag.  Vim kuv yog
> tus Director of Education rau Yang Wang Meng Association - USA.

kav tsij sau. nws yog ib qhov zoo rau peb tej tub ki kawm txog peb
hmoob keeb kwm. koj kuj ua hauj lwm rau nej tsev xeem yaj lub koom
haum ntev kawg lawm laiv. raws li kuv nco mas zoo li koj twb yeej
tuav txoj dej num no puag thaum 86-87 ntawd los lawm sub sav.

kuv xav nug koj me ntsis txog nej lub koom haum yaj vam meej. raws li
paub mas nej cov xeem yaj lub koom haum no kuj yog ib lub ruaj, khov
thiab tsim tau los ntev kawg lawm. nej lub phom phiaj thiab tej dej
num yog dab tsi xwb. nej puas tau los txhim kho nej cov yaj tej kev
cai dab qhua xws li yaj 5 txig, 7 txim, 9 txig thiab lwm yam kom
sawvdaws los ua ib yam lawm xwb. kuv pom hais tias nej lub koom haum
no khov thiab pib tau los ntev tshaj txhua lub. yog yuav ua tau ces
yog nej lub koom haum no lawm ntag. yog nej pib tau rau nej xeem yaj
lawm, kuv ntseeg hais tias hwm xeem yuav pauv raws nej xwb.

qhov kawg no rov nug koj dua es ua li koj puas tau retire laj kam
thiab. yog tsis tau no niam no koj ho ua hauj lwm dab tsi lawm xwb?


Ya

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tus muam no hais tau zoo lawm, lub suab los zoo lawm...i believe she
is from modesto, ca. temsis muaj ib qhov niag "temsis" na...


do any of you know the difference between suab tshoob and suab txiv
xaiv?

yag hawj

cwj...@hotmail.com

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Apr 9, 2012, 1:50:59 PM4/9/12
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Yus ntxhais no nws raws li nws hais ces nws kawm nws xwb, twb tsis muaj leej twg qhia...I give her 2 thumbs up!!!

Yog nws tseem kawm muaj kws li peb cov txiv neej thiab, kuv xav hais tias nws yuav hais tau zoo dua qhov no.

Moghlub

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Apr 9, 2012, 6:23:47 PM4/9/12
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Nyob zoo yawm Nyaj Yag "Moob Zoo Nraug",

Zoo sab rov ntsib koj. Koj pluj lawm yaag quas tsug taav nuav ntuj es yog moog ua dlaab tsi lawm os? Los yog nrug tug puav huv nuav sis nraug cuam puav ces txawm ua ib sab moog noj zaub lawm xwb naj?

Been missing you....

M

Victor Yang

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Kwvtijmoob;


Kuv tseem tsis tau so kam (retire), tseem niaj hnub mus ua Amelicas
qhev. Kuv tseem pheej nrog kuv cov menyuam kawm ntawv thiab kuv muaj
class nyob lwm lub xeev ua yuav tsum tau mus kawm ces kuv lam rub
Company kom flexible rau kuv. After September 11, 2011, kuv lub
Company (Pratt & Whitney Corp.) tshais rov mus rau Connecticut thiab
kuv tsis mus ces haujlwm nrhiav yuav luag tsis tau ua.

Ntawm cov txim: 5 txig, 7 txig, & 9 txig mas thov txim kuv yuav teb
tsis tau koj vim kuv tsis yog tus tuav phab Social Culture. Ntawm kuv
txiv (Vaj Tsab Yaj) ces ntshai nws yuav ua tsis tau txiv qeej ntxiv
lawm vim nws laus thiab ua neeb lawm. Kuv txiv hais rau kuv tias lub
weekend yuav los no yuav thaus hlob Paj Xwm Yaj los than, kom kuv
thauj kuv txiv tuaj xyuas hlob ib zaug ua zaum kawg.


Victor Yang

kwvtijhmoob

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On Apr 9, 8:20 pm, Victor Yang <victoryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kuv tseem tsis tau so kam (retire), tseem niaj hnub mus ua Amelicas
> qhev.  Kuv tseem pheej nrog kuv cov menyuam kawm ntawv thiab kuv muaj
> class nyob lwm lub xeev ua yuav tsum tau mus kawm ces kuv lam rub
> Company kom flexible rau kuv.

py victor-- kuv ntsia mas koj yog ib tug muaj peev xwm kawg lawm
nawb. ua hauj lwm rau yus los yus ua, ua hauj lwm pab kwvtij (koom
haum) los ua, kawm ntawv los tseem kawm thiab. hais li koj ces koj 2
tug ntxhais kuj tsis tau muaj vauv thiab los muaj lawm nas.

>Kuv txiv hais rau kuv tias lub
> weekend yuav los no yuav thaus hlob Paj Xwm Yaj los than, kom kuv
> thauj kuv txiv tuaj xyuas hlob ib zaug ua zaum kawg.

hnub twg lawv mam thau nej hlob paj xwm los tha thiab tha nyob lub
tsev txias twg? yog hnub ntawd khoom no mam li tuaj pab saib thiab.

phwvnyawm

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Moghlub,


Npawg Yaag tsis yog hu ua Nyaj Yaag.....hua ua Neej Yaag sub no.

Puas yog laug lawm es tsis nco qab lawm os.



phwvnyawm

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Yij Xyeejtsawg,

Koj txhob nyuaj siab txog koj daim nplooj.......nej cov ua kwv twb
tsis tau nrog luag hau cawv daig nru,noj dua nqaij dhaig dab hauv lub
niag zos no es ntshai dab tsi.Kob laug Phwv ces twb nrog coob tus sib
ceg,cem-m luag ntshai kuv tag....kuv twb tsis ntshai leej twg yuav
paub kuv cia nws paub nws........koj tau tuaj xyuas koj yawm yij nyob
Bannig ces nco ntsoov coj kuv tus muam los xyuas dab laug nawb.

Victor,
Koj hais txog Phouma puas yog Txhim coj nrog Txhim tuaj maj? Raws li
kuv paub mas Txhim,niam tij Txhim thiab nkawv tus me nyuam tuaj lawv 3
leeg xwb nad? Thaum Txhim yuav tuaj USA nyob hauv Nab Phoos ces peb
twb mus xyuas Txhim....xyoo 1975 mas tsuas muaj 3 yig hmoob tuaj lawv
yawg loj qab xwb. Ntshai yog Txhim ntxiv npe rau thaum sawv kev kiag
xwb lauj.......peb mus xyuas Txhim tau li 1 lim piam Txhim mam tuaj
lawm.Txhim tuaj txog Meskas teb Txhim twb sau ntawv los rau Txhim tus
txiv ntxawm Zoov Ntxheb (XF) Zoov Ntxheb
tias Txhim tuaj txog Meskas lawm.....peb mas twb zoo-oo siab tias nyaj
tsis muaj NYAV NOJ......ha..ha...ha...Hmoob mas ntshai-ai NYAV noj
kawg ned.....cov niag tsov tom hmoob RUAM no mas cas yuav RUAM ua luaj
tiag.

xyeejtsawg

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Dab phwv; tsis muaj dab tsis os kuv xav cia nws twv kuv saib nws twv
puas
tau kuv xwb, Dab phoumua tsis yog nrog Txiv lau txhim tuaj nws tsev
neeg
xwb, Dab phouma nws mam tuaj tom qab no thiab nws kuj tuaj tom num
phong
tuaj thiab nos os.

nyob zoo
tom qab nos thiab, nws kuj tuaj tom num phong tuaj thiab

phwvnyawm

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Yij Xyeejtsawg,



Phouma puas yog tuaj Nab Phoos tuaj tiag maj? raws li kuv paub mas
hmoob tsuas muaj 3 yig tuaj xyoo 1975 lawv yawg loj qab xwb.

Kuv nco mas: 1 ces yog Txhim,2. Ces yog Tub Fwb Vaj. 3 ces yog Vaj
Ntxawg sub. Hos cov tub kawm ntawv ces muaj Tony Vang (Vaj Mib) cov
kwv 3 leeg tuaj mus rau Hawaii Mib tus kwv hu ua Nruas Vaj no 2 tug
kuv tsis nco npe lawm. Hos cov mus Fab Kis teb mas cov hluas mus coob
lawm nawb xyoo 1975 naj.....ntshai yuav muaj ze 14-15 leeg mus hauv
Nab Phoos mus . Dua li ces yeej yog los txog Vib Nais mam tuaj lawm
xwb thiab yeej yog tawm xyoo tshiab xyoo 1976 mam tuaj.

Sib ntsib dua

Moghlub

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Phwv,

Yog lawm nam tem toob lawm es txhaj le has tsi raug lawm ne...

Ua tsaug os,

m

Victor Yang

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Phwv;


Phouma nrog Txhim niam thiab Txhim cov kwv cov muam lawv tuaj USA no.
Txhim coj tsis tau Phouma nrog Txhim ces thiaj muab Phouma ua npe nrog
Txhim niam thiab Txhim cov kwv cov muam. Txhim tuaj poob rau
Washington DC then khiav los rau Illinois thiab khiav los rau
Minnesota no thiaj tso Phouma tseg rau Elgin, Illinois. Vim li no
Phouma thiaj tseem nyob Elgin, IIllinois txog tav no.

Phouma thiab Muas yuag (Yaj Muas me) yog tib phaum, nkawd kawm P4 ua
ke nyob Sam Luang thaum 1968, Phouma tuaj nrog dablaug Maj. Nom Pus
Lis nyob Looj Ceeb. 1970 Muas yuag mam tuaj nrog Muas yuag txiv ntawm
Lt. Yaj Tswb nyob Looj Ceeb. Thaum Txhim yuav niamtij Txhim ces Txhim
thiaj coj Phouma mus ua haujlwm rau SKY txog thaum sawvdaws khiav.


Victor

Victor Yang

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Yig Xyeejtsawg;


Kuv yeej tseem nco zoo zoo hais tias phauj Xaiv Phiab muaj ib tug tub
hu ua T. M. Lauj, thiab yuav kuv ib tug muam hu ua Maiv Nyiaj (Txiv
Paj Lis tus ntxhais). 3 lub xyoo dhau los lawm tijlaug Txhiaj (Ntxoov
Lwm) pem Chico tau hu xovtooj mus nrog niamtxawm Nyiaj Looj tham. Cov
kwvtij YPP cem tijlaug Ntxoov Lwm heev, Ntxoov Lwm hais tias, txiv
Nyiaj Looj thiab txiv Txooj Muas peb tsis yog kwvtij YPP tham tsis
txaum.

Tej zaum koj ua kwv yuav hnov cov kwvtij YPP tham txog yawg Txoos
Npliam . Txoov Npliam yog kwv yug, ho yawg Tooj choj yawg Nyiaj Xab
yog tij yug. Yawg Txoos Npliam muaj 3 tug tub: Paj Nus Yaj, Ntsuab
Lwm Yaj, Nom Pov Yaj. Yawm Ntsuab Lwm yug tau 2 tug tub: XAIV KHWB
thiab Neej Lauj ces yawg Ntsuab Lwm tuag lawm, thiaj muab pog Ntsuab
Lwm txi rau yawg Nyiaj Xab uas yog kuv yawg Tooj Choj yawm. Pog Nyiaj
Xab yau (pog Ntsuab Lwm) muaj yawm Nyiaj Xab ib tug tub thiab tus tub
ntawd yug tau yawg Paj Tsav ces tus tub tuag. Pog Ntsuab Lwm thiab
muab tus nyab txi rau yawg XAIV KHWB.

Yawg XAIV KHWB muaj 3 tug tub: Tsuas Pov, Txoov Neeb, Txooj Ntxawg.
Yawg Tsuas Pos yug tau: Phauj Tooj Ntxawg Lis, Phauj Xaiv Phiab, Txiv
Txooj Muas, txiv Npib Pag, txiv Nyiaj Looj. Thaum yijlaug Xaiv Phiab
yuav phauj Xaiv Phiab nyob Xam Kiam mas yawg Ntsuab Pov ua nyuaj tag
zog, yeej tsis pub yuav thiab yeej tsis txais zov li. Yawm txiv
Ntxoov Huas Lauj lawv thiaj tso neeg tuaj raws kuv yawg Tooj Choj nyob
Phuv Phees kuv yawg Tooj Choj mam txais xov, thiab coj mej koob Phuv
Phees tuaj ua tshoob rau Xam Kiam.



Dablaug Victor

xyeejtsawg

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Dab victor hais txog ntawm caj hmab ceg ncau mas kuv tsis paub lis ov
vim kuv tsuas nco tim phuv phee xwb, hais qhov uas koj txiv mus lav
tshoob
es cov hmoob lis lawv tsis tseev mas tej yog cov hmoob lis xav kom
rauj cuag
thaiv thaiv cuag zeb ntsuab xwb kuv yeej tsis tau hnov koj txiv uas
plaub rau leej
twg lis, tos Nai khej lis pheej uas nkau2 rau yawv txiv nchaiv tswb
los yog thaum

Naikhej lis pheej tuaj hais niam lau suav rau naihkej lis pheej yuav
thiab hais phauj
faiv ntaj rau tub ntxawg lis es lawv sib do pov khawb tas nej ob cov
hmoob nos thiaj
uas yeeb ncuab thaum ntawd los lawm, thaum vauv thaiv tuaj yuav Dab
txwj pov tus
ntxhais kiab rov qab los txog rau tim Syracuse ces Naikhej lis pheej
thiaj ntxuv22 vauv
thai vim nej muab dob txau dhau lawm.

nyob zoo

Victor Yang

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Yij Xyeejtsawg;


Tiag tiag ces cov neejtsa Hmoob Lis thiab peb YPP yeej yog neej yog
tsav. Vauv Thaiv yuav Kiab yog lawv xav neej xav tsav es lawv thiaj
yuav, yog lawv paub tias yuav es yuav ua phaub ua ntug lawv yeej tsis
yuav. Lub caij ntawd hlob Txooj Vws, hlob Xaiv Teev, txiv Paj Lis,
thiab yawg Xyooj Pov lawv puav leej tuaj raws Lis Pheej thiab Phauj
Faiv Ntaj lawv rau New York. Teebmeem yog tim peb cov hluas YPP ua
heev zog lawm. Yuav kom xa Kiab txawm xa, tsis xa yuav hu Police
thiab tso kiag Txhiaj thiab Pov Vam nkawd mus New York.

Tshoob Kos yog zoo li no Lis Pheej lawv yuav tsum tu siab. Vauv Thaiv
yuav Kiab ces kuv yog txivntxawm xyobtxheeb ntag, kuv saib mas Lis
Pheej yeej tu siab heev rau peb. Tabsi thaum ntawd (1986 - 87) kuv
tseem hluas thiab cheem tsis tau lawv cov ua txiv... Cov kwvtij feem
coob yog cov nyuam qhuas tuaj Thaibteb tuaj txog USA tshiab tshiab
lawv los hais tsis tau dab tsi. Txiv Paj Lis, hlob Txooj Vws, yawg
Xyooj Pov lawv cov nyob New York los txawm tsis hais ib los, tsis
cheem peb cov Minnesota.

Kuv yeej paub zoo tias cov kub yog cov kwvtij YPP uas tuaj raws Lis
Pheej lawv nyob New York: Yawm Xyooj Pov, Txiv Paj Lis, hlob Txooj
Vws, hlob Xaiv Teev, txiv Txiaj Nruag, Xwm, Xeeb thiab Nplooj lawv
nyuaj siab heev. Txawm li ntawd los thov tsevneeg Hmoob Lis ua siab
loj thiab zam txim..... Txhua yam dhau los cia ua lesson rau peb
kawm. Lawv muaj ntxhais zoo kuv tseem xav kom tau ua nyab, lawv muaj
tub zoo tseem xav kom tau ua vauv. Kawg thov, kawg kho.



Dablaug Victor

tuamlijkoob

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Cov Phooj Ywg,

Ua cas zoo li sawv daws tham tsis nkag rau lub topic " Mloog Poj Niam
Hais Zaj Tshoob" li lawm nas. Nej pheej hais ua luaj li es puas yog
hais txog tus hluas nkauj los yog tus ntxhais no hais "Zaj Tshoob"
nad, los yog nej muaj nej ib tug poj niam hais lawm thiab nad. Kuv
qhuas tus ntxhais no lawm nawb, nws tshaj lij kawg li. Leej twg yog
tus yuav coj nws mus ua Mej Koob ho qhia rau peb sawv daws paub
thiab. Yog nws nyob ze kuv mas kuv yeej yuav thov nws mus ua mej
koob ua keeb kwm rau cov ntxhais kawm nawb.

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surithay

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Apr 11, 2012, 8:22:49 PM4/11/12
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Tuamlijkoob, kuv yeej qhuas nws kawg thiab zoo siab peb muaj tej tus
ntxhais tuaj hlob teb chaw no ho nyiam kawm Hmoob tej Kev cai no. Yog
nws hloov tau nws lub suab Kom txhob yog suab txiv xaiv mas haj yam zoo

Victor Yang

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Tus ntxhias no yog ib tug ntawm ib pab pojniam (ntxhais) Hmoob uas
lawv kawm zaj tshoob ntawm Bee Yang Fresno. Tus ntxhais no lub suab
seej raws li Bee Yang lub thiab hais cov zaj hauv phau ntawv "KAB
TSHOOB KEV KOS". Bee hais tias lawv thov tau funds es cov ntxhais no
thiaj tuaj kawm kom lawv paub txog txheej txheem tshoob kos.


Victor Yang

phwvnyawm

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Apr 13, 2012, 12:30:18 PM4/13/12
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Tuamlikoob,

Yeej yog li koj hais lub topic mas kuv yeej hais txog tus ntshais hais
zaj tshoob xwb tiag. Tiam sis kuv ho nug Victor txog yawg tus kwv tij
Npis Yaj ces wb cia li tham txog kwv tij,yawm yij,dab laug lawm.
Peb cia mus tham txog ua pluab tshoob kos tuaj lawm thov txim ntawm
nej sawv daws.

Victor,
Yog li ces Phouma nrog Xov Tsheej ua yog Txhim tus kwv tuaj.Xov Tsheej
coj xov Tsheej niam, 2 tug kwv thiab 2 tug muam kuv ho tsis puab tias
Phouma nrog lawv tuaj......peb thiab lawv yeej tuaj sib law liag li 1
hli xwb.
Peb tuaj poob rau NC hos Xov Tsheej lawv tuaj poob Pennsylvania sub
Txhim tuaj poob rau Washingtong DC li koj hais tau li 1 xyoo sub ces
Txhim khiav mus rau Chicago thaum xyoo 1977 lub 3 hlis ntuj peb khiav
los rau CA Orange county
ces Xov Tsheej thiaj yuav khiav los raws peb ces nws niam lawv thiaj
khiav mus raws Txhim rau Chicago tau muaj li 3-4 xyoo tom qab hnov
tias Txhim rau MN lawm yog li Txhim thiaj muab Phouma thiab Txhim 2
tug kwv Npis thiab Lawv tso pov tseg rau Chicago los txog tav no.
Yog ua li cas es Phouma ho tsis los raws nws txiv rau CA? ntshai tej
laus kuj yuav tu-u siab lawm pob? Ua li koj hais kuv yus yog tus yus
txiv cia-ia siab tshaj plaws es tsis los nrog tej laus nyob maj? tsis
yog li ua cas ho tsis tos luag tus laus mus nrog yus nyob.

Kuv yuav rov tham txog nej pab kwv tij 5 txig: Kuv ua tsaug koj hais
tau meej kawg thiab kuv paub zoo kawg tuaj lawm,kuv tsis paub tias
yawg Txawj Zeb tsis yog Txwj Zeb phwvnyawj nej txheeb npaum koj
hais.Tos li kuv pheej hnov txiv Koos, txiv Khaum thiab txiv Txoov Vam
lawm tham tias tus Npis Txiv Xaiv txheeb-b lawv no.Raws li koj piav
ces caub moos Ntsuab Toog lawv tsev,txiv Dr Suav Kuam txiv, yawg Txawj
Yis,yawg Tswv Tub uas Txawj Ntxawg nyob Fab Kis teb txiv,yawg Tooj
Npliam thiab hlob Tsav Vaj Yaj Yaj thiab Yaj Phooj txiv lawv pab no
thiab nej ces txheeb-b laid.Koj poob 2 pab nyob sab peb teb chaw Muas
Loob lawm pab nyob Roob nyuj los nyob Pham las Mus yawg Soob Dawb tus
tub hu ua Txhiaj Suav,Txhiaj Suav tus tub hu ua Nyiaj Xyooj pab no
thiab Zam Yaj Saub txiv ces yog 2 kwv tij yug los.Yawg Soob Dawb thiab
Zam Yaj Saub txiv ces yog ib phaj. Hos pab nyob Pham Thoos,Pham Vis
tuaj nyob teb chaws no ces yog txiv ntxawm Txawj Nchai thiab txiv
ntxawm Txooj Tub nkawv nyob hauv Fresno,tus hluas ces twb yog tus Faiv
Looj Yaj hnub Yaj tshaj Koob wb tham-m txog lawv khiav mus Thaib teb
ntag ned.Kuv nco hais tias yawg Nkaj Yis thiab yawg Vam Tub lawv yog
cov 5 txig thiab sub koj puas paub txog lawv? Lawv puas txheeb nej
maj? pog yawg puas yog ib tug thaum ub los?

Qhov no ntxiv kuv yuav nug koj personel: Vim li cas kuv muab nug rau
hauv no rau sawv daws pom.Kuv pom tias muaj ntau yim neeg lwm xeem
hmoob los muaj ib yam nkaus yog vim li cas tiag?

Hnub koj tham tias Npis txiv Xaiv,Tswv Kav thiab Dr Ntxawg kho hniav
lawv mas rau-au siab kawm hmoob kab li kev cais.Kuv cov kwv tij los
kuj rau-au siab kawm hmoob kev cai tag zog.

Vim li cas koj thiab kuv nad? Ho mus ntseeg-g ntuj kawm ntuj kev cai
tag siab,tag ntsws li? koj xav ned qhov twg yog qhov tseeb thiab yog
qhov yog? ua cas cov coob ho tsis mus koj thiab kuv 2 caws mus xwb? Ua
li koj hais kuv hnub i tseem yog 2 tug cov laus cia-ia siab rau
thiab.Koj mas xyov koj cov kwv tij puas hais rau koj mloog.....kuv ces
txhua-ua zaus ntsib lawv ces lawv tab thov tas zog kom rov los nrog
lawv.......... cov kem zog yeej tsis hais kiag rau yus lawv tsuas tham-
m rau lwm tus kom yus hnov xwb.......tiam sis cov ib plab yug ces thov
tas zog li.........kuv ntseeg hais tias yog ntuj hu yus lawm no
laid.........koj sim tig rov mus soj saib cov XF uas muaj txoj kev
ntseeg deb-b saib......feem coob yog nws ib leeg xwb,nws cuab kwv tij
tsis mus li....... dhau li muaj ntau yim neeg cov tub nom tub tswv tim
ub lawv muaj 1-2 tug tub rau-au siab kawm hmoob kev cai los muaj ib
tug cia li mus kawm XF.....yog tim dab tsi? puas yog ntuj lom txwm
muab tsev neeg faib kom sib ntxub los yog li cas tiag?Muaj tej chim
mas kuv cem-m ntuj kawg li thiab od?
Muaj dab tsis no wb mam sib sau e-mail ntxiv nawb.

Sib ntsib dua

Phwvnyawm


Vaj Ncuab

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Phawv;

Hais txog ntawm pab kwvtij nyob Pha Las Mus (Muas Loob Teb) uas yog
Yawg Soob Dawb thiab pab kwvtij Phuaj Twb Phuaj Vis uas yog txiv
ntxawm Txawj Nchais thiab Txooj Tub lawv thiab peb yeej yog ib
tsevneeg thiab tus pog tus yawg los Suav teb los. Faiv Looj Yaj (Faiv
Looj Chao Fa) kuv paub zoo. Raws li cov laus hais mas thaum ub peb
yawg Txawj Tsab Yaj twb tsiv Phou Fa los mus raws pab kwvtij Phuaj
Thoos Phuaj Vi ib zaug tabsi lub tebchaws ntawd tsis muaj dej haus ces
cov laus thiaj khiav rov qab los rau Phou Fa lawm. Xyoo 1950 Yawg
Naikong Paj Txoos Yaj lawv twb khiav Xab Haub (Xieng Khouang) teb los
mus raws cov kwvtij Phuaj Thoos Phuaj Vis, yawg Paj Txoos lawv los
nyob tsis tau vim tsis muaj dej haus ces 1953 lawv thiaj khiav rov los
rau Xeev teb lawm.

Tam sim no (2012) kuv muaj ib cov tub uas yog Yij Xyeejtsawg yawm txiv
Paj Lis tijlaug Txiaj Vaj (Ntsuab Toog) cov tub or Ntxawg dub (Ntxawg
black) ua ncaws pob rog Npis thoj tijlaug cov tub tsiv Phonsavanh los
mus raws pab kwvtij Pham Las Mus lawm.

Hais txog ntawm Naikong Txawj Zeb Phawvnyawm lawv thiab peb ces yeej
yog ib tsevneeg. Xyoo 1959 yawg Nchaiv Tswb uas yog Col. Tooj Tuam
Yaj txiv tuaj mus kawm dab ntawm Naikong Txawj Zeb lawv nyob Hav Dej
Nyab (Loob Pum) thiab npaj tos lawv los rau Phuv Phees. Naikong Txawj
Zeb lawv thiaj tso ib tug tub hu ua Pov (Pov Liaj Ntsuab) los ua teb
rau Phuv Phees tso tawm 1961 lawv mam los. December 1960 rog Kong Le
sawv, tebchaws ua rog thiab hnov tias lub tebchaws Phwvnyawm zoo qoob
loos heev ces Naikong Txawj Zeb lawv txawm tsiv los rau Phwvnyawm
lawm.

Hais txog ntawm Phouma, thaum 1980 Archan Ntxheb Yaj peb twb kom los
raws peb rau Minnesota los Phouma tsis kam. Thaum Phouma txiv (txiv
Paj Lis) lawv tuaj txog New York thaum 1987 los Phouma tsis kam mus
raws txiv Paj Lis lawv. Phouma yuav tsev thiab tau haujlwm zoo nyob
Elgin, Illinois ces yawg lam nyob, vim tseem tshuav Xov Tsheej thiab
yawg Pov (Naimaum Pov) uas yawg Dr. Thao Yang tom Eau-claire txiv
ntxawm tseem nyob Elgin ces Phouma lam nyob. Txiv Nruas Naikong Nkias
Pov thiab Txhim lawv khiav los Minnesota tag lawm.

Hais txog ntawm kevai Hmoob ces cov tseem coj kevcai qub yeej meem
kawm. Dr. Ntxawg, Npis thiab Tswv Kav lawv yeej kub siab thiab rau
siab kawm qeej, kawm zaj tshoob txiv xaiv, kawm kablis kevcai Hmoob,
thiab kawm dab qhuas Hmoob kawg. Tam sim no lawv yeej paub zoo hauj
sim lawm. Kuv mus Church los kuv yuav tsum kawm kom kuv paub
Vajlugkub, txawm tsis ua Xibhwb los yuav tsum kawm kom paub kev
ntseeg, thiab kev coj noj coj ua ntawm cov ntseeg zoo. Vim li no kuv
thiaj tsoos tsoos tau 2 daig degrees rau sab Pastoral Ministry thiab
Theological studies.

Kuv yeej yog kuv txiv tus tub hlob, kuv txiv yeej cia siab rau kuv,
yeej xav kom kuv kawm thiab paub txujci Hmoob. Tabsi kuv ho mus
Church lawv ho muab lawv tso tseg, lwm hnub kuv txiv thiab kuv niam
nkawd yuav tsis tau kuv 2 tug nyuj laug los thov ua siab loj, txhob tu
siab. Kuv mam hlub thiab pab nkawd thaum nkawd tseem ua neej nyob. Kuv
tsis yog mus Church thiab pab Church xwb, kuv yeej kub xaj, ua Chao
Fa, ua Neo Hom, run American politics, thiab khiav Koom Haum txaus
lawm. Txawm yog cov tsis ntseeg los ntshais coob tug tsis muaj feem
ua li kuv.



Victor Yang

Moghlub

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