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LPX- You guys remember the Fong Lee Case? Cops planted the gun.

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Lonewriter

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Mar 31, 2009, 11:55:15 AM3/31/09
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Remember when we went to file the civil suit and meet with chief dolan
and his crew? They said there was no print on the gun allegedly
carried by Fong, even after the cops claimed Fong and his friends were
passing the run while on bike? I think a $25Million suit against the
city of MPLS is a good start.

http://www.twincities.com/ci_12033266

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ntu...@gmail.com

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Mar 31, 2009, 12:26:35 PM3/31/09
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Txij li thaum kuv tuaj poob rau teb chaws no, kuv yeej tsis muaj kev
cia siab rau cov niag COPS no kiag li. Vim yus txawm xyaum ua neeg zoo
npaum cas los lawv yeej tseem pheej nrhiav teeb meem rau yus tag zog
li. Lawv hais lus rau neeg mas lawv hais lus phem phem xwb. Hais lus
loj loj thiab nyhav nyhav rau neeg xwb, leej twg pom los leej twg yeej
ntxub cov niag cops ruam no.

kwv...@aol.com

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Mar 31, 2009, 3:40:15 PM3/31/09
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First of all, I am not a member of the minnepolias police department
and I am also not related to the family of fong lee. I am a neutral
person just speaking from what I know.

For fong’s family and their attorney, I am sure they have their own
reason to file this lawsuit.
For the police, I am sure they stand by their officers’ reports.
For this pioneer press writer, we cannot assume that what he wrote is
the true fact because he simply wrote what he knew and from second
hand says.

According to this particular article, it said the gun found next to
fong’s body was dang her’s gun, which had been in police’s possession
since 2004 from a burglary. It said 10 days after the shooting, the
police, however, wrote a supplemental report claiming that the gun
recovered from the burglary was actually now not dang’s gun. By
reading this, it does sound very interesting. However, again we
cannot assume that what this article said is the true fact.

For me, I say it is highly unlikely that the gun was planted by the
police regardless. The reason is because I know for a fact that when
a gun or weapon was confiscated or found, it is kept in a secured
locker room called evidence room which is always locked that only
certain personnel has access to it. Not a single police officer is
allowed to have access to it. Not even the Chief has access to it.
Each police agency authorizes 1 or 2 staff with a certified training
to have access and can retrieve evidence in and out. All evidences
that are retrieved or removed must be authorized with 2 or more
signatures on it. If it was a plant, the officer would have to come
back to the station after the shooting and asked the authorized
personnel to retrieve the gun from the evidence room and went back to
the shooting scene and placed it there. All of this would take at
least 30-45 minutes. Now remember that in all incidents involving
shootings with injuries and death the fire and ambulance personnel
should arrived within 10-15 minutes. So as far as timing goes, it is
virtually impossible that a plant can be done.

The only way that I can think of that the police could have planted
this gun is this. the officer found the gun dropped by one of the
running boys in the street while chasing these boys and placed it next
to fong lee’s body after he shot fong to death. This is possible.

chong...@comcast.net

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Mar 31, 2009, 4:13:54 PM3/31/09
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How naive of you. Did you know that word “gullible” is not in the
dictionary?

All the police have to do is provided a signed receipt that the gun
was returned to Dang Her and it was out of their possession. End of
story!

Lonewriter

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Mar 31, 2009, 4:44:25 PM3/31/09
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OMG - if the gun was in Fong's possession or his friends before they
were chased, how come there was no print on the gun. Fong was not
wearing gloves. And you know what? What about the cop who had the gun
from the 2004 incident, who never returned the gun, he was the first
to response to the crime scene.

Hmong-Lao

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Mar 31, 2009, 5:03:57 PM3/31/09
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PY Lonewritter,
Ua tsaug uas koj coj tuaj share rau peb sawvdaws.
Tej case zoo li no yeej tsim nyog muab hais kom muaj chaw txawb chaw
rau. Yog yuav saib raws qhov news report xwb ces kuv yeej xav hais
tias cov tub ceevxwm no ua txhaum cai loj heev lawm.

HL

Jim

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Mar 31, 2009, 5:17:58 PM3/31/09
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The conclusive evidence in this case was that Fong's finger prints was
not found on the gun...the expert who viewed the video tape siad Fong
has no gun on his "right" hand...so what is so hard about this case?
This is a time for Hmong not to FUCKED UP....we have the knowledge and
legal mean to put those dirty cops involved behind bar for a long
time. Wearing a badge doesn;t give you a fucking right to murder
innocent people....though they think they can...we'll see how the law
held up.

jim

fajk...@yahoo.com

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Mar 31, 2009, 5:50:46 PM3/31/09
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This case truely disturbed me... Our Hmong brothers and sisters must
unite to help the Lee Family to fight for this case. One way or the
other the evidences were not matched.

Remember the Rodney King beating in Los Angeles. The whole town got
burned and it was justified. People's power can get these ugly cops
behind bar for a long time... Don't target those cops only... get
their dirty bosses down too...

Faj

Lee Pao Xiong

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Mar 31, 2009, 6:14:48 PM3/31/09
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s you may remember, we did file a human right complaint against the
Minneapolis Police Department. However, because we did not get any
cooperation from the family, it was decided that it was best to drop
my complaint. One thing for sure though:

1. when we met with the police chief, there was no mention that a gun
was recovered at the scene. there was only a mention that it looks
like fong lee was reaching for his gun;
2. the chief told us not to talk to the media after our briefing
because the case was under investigation. as soon as we left the
chief's office, he went to the media and told his version of the
story, even after we all agreed to not talk to the media. this to me
was a violation of trust. why was he so eager to talk to the media
after our conversation? did he have something to hide? obviously
from this news report, it seems like it.
3. instead of notifying the family about mr. fong lee's death, they
went to two organizations. it took them more than 24 hours to notify
the family members about their son's death. what took them so long to
do so? what were the intent of these two organizations? what was the
intent of the police department? the rationale that they gave us was
that they did not know who fong lee was. and yet, they were able to
trace his history? fishy there.

anyway, we cannot sue the police department. only the family do so.
we can only look out for the interest of the entire community.
however, we needed the family's cooperation, access to their
investigative report so that we can move ahead with our complaint.
when we did not get the cooperation from their clan representative, we
then decided to drop the case.

you may wonder why i was involved. there was a community meeting
convened by the Hmong 18 Council clan. I was invited to the meeting.
everyone at the meeting asked me to be the spokesperson. the family
also asked me to be involved. as such, i was appointed by the
committee to get involve after pleading from those who were there and
the 18 council president. what i did was:
1. held a press conference in minneapolis city hall;
2. file a human/civil right violation complaint against the
minneapolis police department;

other members organized marches, protests and etc.

Lee Pao Xiong
st. paul, minnesota

kwv...@aol.com

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Apr 1, 2009, 9:14:13 AM4/1/09
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For this case, i don't know how the result is going to be, but I
believe the Minneapolis Police department screwed up big time this
time.

The key points are these:
1. the video tape clearly showed there is no gun in fong’s hand
2. the police initial report stated there is no fong’s finger print on
the gun
3. 10 days after the shooting the police wrote a supplemental report
that contradicted the initial report about the gun that was recovered
from the burglary.
4. the gun found next to fong’s body. How did it get there?

I think these are the key points that will put the Minneapolis
department on the line this time. We will just have to wait and see.

Jim

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Apr 1, 2009, 9:40:07 AM4/1/09
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When the heat gets going...thier dirty laundry will come out sooner or
later. And when it does...Hmong would have moved a step up to truly
being unified as a group. When we work together for a common
adjective, we'll come out ahead and bring justice to the Lee's
family. Lets bring these crooked cops to justice!!!!

jim

tou...@gmail.com

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Apr 3, 2009, 1:08:28 AM4/3/09
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Sorry, Lonewriter.

I thought the new subject name was a little more appropriate.

Feel free to post the news articles (in possible violation of copy
rights, of course) before they go into archive and people have to pay
for them.

~Toufong


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