Planning Hawaiian vacation
bbpryceblues
Can anyone help me with good places online to get detailed hotel and
travel info, as well as good deals? I've looked on Yahoo! Travel and
haven't found much, and I'm not too keen on doing one of those hotel
auction things. I'm hoping to go to the Big Island and Oahu in November.
Any hotel recommendations would be helpful too. This will be our
anniversary, so I want to stay somewhere romantic.
BB
Irwin Lazar
On 12 Sep 2000 20:35:01 GMT, bbpryceblues
<bbDELETE-M...@aol.com> wrote:
Contact Carol Horne at www.tropical-escapes.com, we used her for our
last trip to hawaii and she was wonderful.
Also check out the pleasant hawaiian holidays web site for great
information about hotels and resorts.
As far as hotels, i'd recommend staying in the less luxurious places
such as condos, it kind of forces you more to get out and explore the
island culture, plus the prices are pretty good. If you absolutely
want to stay in a resort, check out the Hilton Waikaloa Village on the
big island, it's simply incredible. The Outrigger properties in Oahu
are a pretty nice value.
And finally, before you go, visit www.wizard-pub.com and pick up the
guidebooks for the islands that you will visit.
irwin
Stan Bowen
Try Pleasant Hawaiian Holidays <www.2hawaii.com>. They have pictures of a
wide variety of Hotels and a map of each island. Prices are so so, but from
time to time they do have good deals. Enjoy your vacation.
Stan
Wasatchgld
I'm going to O'ahu this October, and I found the best deals on
www.bid4vacations.com - besides auctions, they have special prices on hotels,
airline tickets,and car rentals. I would recommend checking with some travel
agents as well - this is a slower time of year so you might get a really good
deal.
(If you like Hawaiian entertainment, check www.mele.com for a really good
concert calendar.)
Good luck and have fun!
Judy Barrett
bbpryceblues wrote:
Guess it depends what "romantic" means to you...5-star hotel with hot and
cold running room service, or maybe something far from the maddening crowd.
How 'bout a treehouse all to yourselves?
http://www.waipio.com/
A little "spice" at the Onion House?
http://www.skylarkmedia.com/onionhouse/
A charming cottage with a fireplace (and great food) near Volcano?
http://www.kilauealodge.com/
Budget not a concern? (Last quote I heard was $75,000/mo.)
http://www.trinityproperties.com/paulmitchell.html
Michael J Wise
bbpryceblues wrote:
> This will be our anniversary, so I want to stay somewhere romantic.
There are a LOT of places that you can stay in Hawai`i that are ANYTHING
BUT. My advice is, if you can afford it, either:
Hyatt Regency Maui
Hilton Waikoloa
Aloha mai Nai`a!
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If you want romantic but don't require being waited on hand and foot, consider
Hobbit House on the Big Island. The URL is: http://hawaii-lodging.com/BnB.html
It's a very unique house with lovely interiors and a great view.
Karia
It is definitely off-season for Hawaii right now, so
it's a good time for you to go. Have you tried the
big hotel chain sites? I just got a 35%- off rate in
Kauai through Starwood's site (www.preferredguest.com).
Make sure you ask about rental cars, too, because they
have some kind of deal going with Avis.
brya...@earthlink.net
In article <968879...@mochi.lava.net>, Judy says...
>cold running room service, or maybe something far from the maddening crowd.
>
>How 'bout a treehouse all to yourselves?
>http://www.waipio.com/
>
>A little "spice" at the Onion House?
>http://www.skylarkmedia.com/onionhouse/
>
>A charming cottage with a fireplace (and great food) near Volcano?
>http://www.kilauealodge.com/
>
>Budget not a concern? (Last quote I heard was $75,000/mo.)
>http://www.trinityproperties.com/paulmitchell.html
>
>
I'm actually born and raised in Hawaii. You've made a good choice for islands
to go to. Oahu will offer you a glitzy glamourous stay with lots of shopping,
dining and fun things to do. If you're looking for a place where everything
fast paced is right around you stay in Waikiki. Waikiki beach is always pretty
crowded but the weather is really good year around. Great places to stay and
romantic? One of the most romantic is the Pink Palace, The Royal Hawaiian
Hotel. Sheraton's flagship property in Hawaii.
For Big Island, I lived there for 3 years, You have two basic choices, the sunny
side - West or the green side - East. Remember where there's green, there's
rain. Kona is on the westside and is a charming town on the water, but no real
beaches. Lots of hotels along the coast line and Waikoloa, north west and above
has a couple of outstanding white sand beaches. Sunsets are awesome and very
romantic. Besure to take in the volcano and dine oceanside at sunset.
To choose your accommodations, to tell you quite honestly, I head up the Hawaii
region of a website: visitingcities.com There's an extensive list of hotels
and lots of info on island activites and things to see and do. I'll be building
more content over the next few months so keep an eye on it.
Have fun...bc.
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PatMull is just a fat bastard
Hi Bchun
Thank you for this info. I will be visiting O'ahu with my son in two weeks
and would like to do some 'Island hopping', I would be extremely grateful
for any pointers also, is it preferable to hire a car or use public
transport to explore O'ahu. BTW I'm Irish so this is most likely a 'one off'
Thanks in advance
Pat
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Michael J Wise
PatMull is just a fat bastard wrote:
> ... also, is it preferable to hire a car or use public transport to
> explore O'ahu.
Personally, I'd suggest the car. If you're here on vacation, and it's a
once-in-a-lifetime thang, TheBus may just be a case of "Saving Too Much
Money" for the time available.
And on the other islands, unless you book a place on a tourbus, you have
no other real option.
Maui:
- Haleakala at Sunrise (10K' elevation, dress warm, and leave
hotel at 3am, at the latest)
- Road to Hana (if you like twisty, mountainside roads)
- Iao needle, if it's a clear day
- BigBeach is kewl
- Lahaina
- Brunch at Swan Court, Hyatt Regency
Big Island:
- The Volcano
- maybe a "Circle Island Tour"
- Check out the Hilton Waikoloa for a day...
O`ahu:
- Arizona Memorial (Open by 7am, IIRC, closes at 3pm)
- Bishop Museum
- `Iolani Palace (closed mondays, maybe sunday too)
- Nu`uanu Pali drive
- Pali Lookout
- Kailua / LaniKai Beach
- Turtle Bay Hilton (for the view)
- Sunset Beach (ESPECIALLY around Christmas time)
- Glider rides at Dillingham field
- Matsumoto's Shave Ice in Haleiwa... (SLURP! Closes at 5pm)
Daniel
<mu...@madasafish.com> ...
>
> Hi Bchun
>
> Thank you for this info. I will be visiting O'ahu with my son in two
weeks
> and would like to do some 'Island hopping', I would be extremely grateful
> for any pointers also, is it preferable to hire a car or use public
> transport to explore O'ahu. BTW I'm Irish so this is most likely a 'one
off'
If you like exploring on your own timetable and have
a couple days on the island I would rent a car and do
your own itinerary. Rental cars are fairly cheap on
Oahu check the big websites for alamo and dollar.
Slainte,
Daniel
PatMull is just a fat bastard
Teri
Your email does not appear to be working, could you email me back.
Thanks
Pat
PatMull is just a fat bastard
Michael
go raibh mile maith agat ( a thousand thanks), very much appreciated, I have
heard that the hospitality and food has to be sampled to be appreciated, if
everyone is as friendly as you I envisage a wonderful stay, again thank you.
I also want to have a helicopter flight over a volcano, I was told that it
is an awsome sight, do some snorkeling and visit the beach in Halona
blowhole (sp) where Burt Lancaster kissed Deborah Kerr in from here to
eternity, I'm a movie freak :-).
I am also looking forward to the food :-)))
what does Aloha mai Nai`a! mean It sound very romantic.
Thanks again Michael, I can't wait.
Pat
Michael J Wise wrote
>
> PatMull is just a fat bastard wrote:
>
> > ... also, is it preferable to hire a car or use public transport to
> > explore O'ahu.
>
PatMull is just a fat bastard
Daniel
go raibh a mile maith agat, many thanks to you too, your advice is noted and
very much appreciated. I know I'll have a wonderful time.
Pat
Daniel <dffs...@hotmail.com> wrote
Michael J Wise
PatMull is just a fat bastard wrote:
> I also want to have a helicopter flight over a volcano, I was told
> that it is an awsome sight,
Likewise, but a bit rich for my blood at this point. Can dream, though.
> do some snorkeling...
North shore is "Best in Summer".
South shore is "Best in Winter".
"Best in X" means "REALLY BAD IN Y". Be advised.
> and visit the beach in Halona blowhole (sp)
It's a bit of a climb down, but there's usually a few people down there.
> I am also looking forward to the food :-)))
Aside from Kalua Pig, LauLau, LomiLomi Salmon and the obligatory Poi,
most of the good eats are ... well, pretty universal. Just had a nice
piece of Prime Rib at the "Big Island Steak House" at Aloha Tower
Marketplace, but my favorite eatery is Sam Choy's BLC.
> what does Aloha mai Nai`a! mean It sound very romantic.
[Sigh...]
Well, therein lies a story. Suffice it to say that there was a battle.
With skillets. And the main combattants were a "pushy chick", a Pue`o
(Hawaiian Owl), a Poi Dog (aka Heintz 57, Mutt , whatevah), and a bunch
of other characters. Even had one Gecko Lady. Anyway. I went looking
for a handle, and chose Dolphin, 'cause about a decade ago, I got to
swim with some at the Hyatt Regency (now Hilton) Waikoloa on the Big
Island. So, out came the (in)famous Pukui and Elbert's dictionary, and
out popped the word, "Nai`a". Rest was history.
Wasn't until I actually arrived in the islands that I found out that
it's a reasonably common GIRL's name. Oh, fo SHAME. Anyway, it kinda
stuck.
Aloha ::= "Agape(gr)", "Love", "Greetings"
mai ::= "from..."
Nai`a ::= "the Dolphin"
Mary J. Alderdice
On 17 Sep 2000 00:05:01 GMT, Michael J Wise <mjw...@kapu.net> wrote:
>
> PatMull is just a fat bastard wrote:
> > I am also looking forward to the food :-)))
>
> Aside from Kalua Pig, LauLau, LomiLomi Salmon and the obligatory Poi,
> most of the good eats are ... well, pretty universal. Just had a nice
> piece of Prime Rib at the "Big Island Steak House" at Aloha Tower
> Marketplace, but my favorite eatery is Sam Choy's BLC.
I beg to differ. =)
Shoyu chicken, chicken katsu, loco moco, good teri anything, hamburger
steak, chili and rice, beef stew and rice, mochiko chicken, saimin, spam
and rice, portugese sausage...
*None* of those things are found in restaurants on the mainland. (Well,
maybe chicken katsu at Japanese restaurants.) Trust me on this one. =)
I got a great fix of local food when I was in California late last month.
If you're in SF, check out http://www.menehune.com/punahele/. *Very* ono.
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Judy Barrett
"Mary J. Alderdice" wrote:
> On 17 Sep 2000 00:05:01 GMT, Michael J Wise <mjw...@kapu.net> wrote:
> >
> > PatMull is just a fat bastard wrote:
> > > I am also looking forward to the food :-)))
> >
> > Aside from Kalua Pig, LauLau, LomiLomi Salmon and the obligatory Poi,
> > most of the good eats are ... well, pretty universal. Just had a nice
> > piece of Prime Rib at the "Big Island Steak House" at Aloha Tower
> > Marketplace, but my favorite eatery is Sam Choy's BLC.
>
> I beg to differ. =)
Fo'real, Mary!
> Shoyu chicken, chicken katsu, loco moco, good teri anything, hamburger
> steak, chili and rice, beef stew and rice, mochiko chicken, saimin, spam
> and rice, portugese sausage...
>
Not to mention MANAPUA, chicken and/or squid luau, pipikaula, POKE, Korean
barbecue, MALASADAS,
chicken adobo, any kine local fish, Hawaiian Sun Lilikoi, Pass-O-Guava, Dave's ice
cream, li hing mui, li hing everything (margaritas!), mochi, MOCHI ICE CREAM!,
strawberry mochi on the Big Island, Uncle Lani's Poi Mochi, soybeans, iso peanuts,
Pearl's Coconut Candy from Kauai, Zip-Min, mahi sandwich at Flamingo (!!!), shave
ice, taro chips, Portuguese sausage and eggs at McDonalds........
shoots.....how much time you got?
Mary J. Alderdice
Yeah! What she said! Manapua. I would kill for a really good manapua (I can
only get frozen chicken steamed buns at the local Chinese grocery). I make my
own poke, but it's not the same, and the dried ogo from the Noh packets...
again, just not the same. ADOBO. I get my li hing addiction fixed by
http://www.crackseeds.com/. Mochi, I get at the local Japanese grocery. *sigh*
Mochi ice cream... And I think I need to stop now. =)
Oh man. I really shoudn't have jumped into this thread. *twitch*
I ordered food from Zippy's on Thursday. It needs to arrive. Soon. *twitch*
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>
> North shore is "Best in Summer".
> South shore is "Best in Winter".
>
> "Best in X" means "REALLY BAD IN Y". Be advised.
Promotional euphemisms!
alohacyberian
I'd say the helicopter flight over the volcano is not to be
missed. You'll love it! KM
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>
> I also want to have a helicopter flight over a volcano, I was
told that it
> is an awsome sight, do some snorkeling and visit the beach in
Halona
Leslie Ross
"Judy Barrett" <JBar...@hawaii.dot.rr.com> wrote in message
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Please don't forget Haupia anything....okinawian sweet potato pie topped
with haupia!!!
Leslie Ross
www.click-away-hawaii.com
PatMull is just a fat bastard
Thanks Michael
I really do appreciate your time
Your explanation of Aloha mai Nai`a! makes it as romantic if not more so
than I first suspected
Thank you for that
Pat
I like Dolphins :-)))
Michael J Wise <mjw...@kapu.net> wrote in message
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>
> PatMull is just a fat bastard wrote:
>
> > I also want to have a helicopter flight over a volcano, I was told
> > that it is an awsome sight,
>
> Likewise, but a bit rich for my blood at this point. Can dream, though.
>
> > do some snorkeling...
>
> North shore is "Best in Summer".
> South shore is "Best in Winter".
>
> "Best in X" means "REALLY BAD IN Y". Be advised.
>
> > and visit the beach in Halona blowhole (sp)
>
> It's a bit of a climb down, but there's usually a few people down there.
>
> > I am also looking forward to the food :-)))
>
> Aside from Kalua Pig, LauLau, LomiLomi Salmon and the obligatory Poi,
> most of the good eats are ... well, pretty universal. Just had a nice
> piece of Prime Rib at the "Big Island Steak House" at Aloha Tower
> Marketplace, but my favorite eatery is Sam Choy's BLC.
>
Michael J Wise
PatMull wrote:
> ... also, is it preferable to hire a car or use public transport to
> explore O'ahu.
Personally, I'd suggest the car. If you're here on vacation, and it's a
Aloha mai Nai`a!
Sue Larkin
In article <969293...@mochi.lava.net>, Michael J Wise
<mjw...@kapu.net> wrote:
[...]
: - `Iolani Palace (closed mondays, maybe sunday too)
SCHer, Jim Carroll, is a docent at the Palace and gives a wonderful
tour on Saturdays at 11:15am, iirc.
Another Oahu "must see" is/are the lagoons at Ko`olina...a series of 4
gorgeous, swimmable lagoons, with a full length walking path, on the
west side of the island. The Ihilani Hotel is situated on the first
lagoon. Each lagoon has limited public parking, except the 4th
one...lotsa parking!
Noach
"Sue Larkin" <sue...@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> Another Oahu "must see" is/are the lagoons at Ko`olina...a series of 4
> gorgeous, swimmable lagoons,
> The Ihilani Hotel is situated on the first
> lagoon
Is it true that the lagoon at the Ihilani is netted-off from sharks?
Sue Larkin
Noach wrote:
: Is it true that the lagoon at the Ihilani is netted-off from sharks?
IIRC, all 4 lagoons are. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong!
Soeren Ziehe
In article <969293...@mochi.lava.net> [18 Sep 00]
Michael J Wise <mjw...@kapu.net> wrote:
> O`ahu:
[...]
> - Glider rides at Dillingham field
Yep. Awesome. :-)
If you're more daring you can also go skydiving (also from Dillingham
Airfield, you jump with a tandem master). Or maybe parasailing, it's fun
too.
Robinton
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In article <969344...@mochi.lava.net>,
Sue Larkin <sue...@pobox.com> wrote:
> Another Oahu "must see" is/are the lagoons at Ko`olina...a series of 4
> gorgeous, swimmable lagoons, with a full length walking path, on the
> west side of the island. The Ihilani Hotel is situated on the first
> lagoon. Each lagoon has limited public parking, except the 4th
> one...lotsa parking!
>
Just came across the following excerpts from
From: bk...@webtv.net (Beverly Kai)
Subject: Re: Going to Hawaii
Date: 21 Apr 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <13289-39...@storefull-124.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.magnum-pi
Out by (the former ) Barbors Point at Ko Olina is the Ihilani Resort
and Spa. The golf is right there, along with seashore lagoon, pool
and 'cuisine". It is off the highway, and once you are there, the only
way out is to hike to the highway and catch the bus for an hour's
ride back to Waikiki, or rent a car.
The Ihilani is at least four star and maybe five. It is so quiet and
remote that you could be anywhere -nothing particularly Hawaiian
except for the local families that they HAVE to allow to use the
lagoons - - - but they keep forgetting to tell their security guards
that the public has all access to all beaches.
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Noach <noa...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Just came across the following excerpts from
> From: bk...@webtv.net (Beverly Kai)
>
> Out by (the former ) Barbors Point at Ko Olina is the Ihilani Resort
> and Spa. [...]
> The Ihilani is at least four star and maybe five. It is so quiet and
> remote that you could be anywhere -nothing particularly Hawaiian
> except for the local families that they HAVE to allow to use the
> lagoons - - - but they keep forgetting to tell their security guards
> that the public has all access to all beaches.
Hmmm...since Bev is a friend of mine I won't contradict her! <8:]
However...we have conflicting experiences and descriptions!!! <wave to
Bev!> The Ihilani Resort IS in the middle of nowhere...which is why
many people like it! Civilization is but 10 minutes away, tho'. The
hotel is very upscale and beautiful and, as Bev said, not particularly
Hawaiian. The walkway that winds along the lagoons is beautifully
landscaped and definitely has a tropical feel. And, the water is
absolutely gorgeous. I live 15 min. away and consider Ko`olina the
equivalent of an outer island vacation...even for just a morning of
walking and beach!!!
Must admit I wasn't aware of the security guard/public access problem.
There are 2 security shacks...one, a short distance from the freeway,
on the main road and another one at the side street entrance to the
hotel. I've never figured out why the first guard shack even exists!
I'm sure the largest parking lot was strategically placed at the lagoon
farthest from the hotel to keep the general public from crowding the
Ihilanis lagoon. The public parking lot for that beach is very small
but the Ihilani's guard, once you tell him you're beaching it, just
waves you on thru. That's been my experience, anyway! There are no
guards for the other 3 lagoons and I've seen many local families at
each lagoon, including the Ihilanis. However, in defense of Bev, I have
no idea whether or not any of these families had to talk their way in.
They shouldn't have to, tho'. Bev's right about public access to all
beaches. I love watching the local families picnicking, playing and
swimming. The lagoons are a wonderful respite for many people who
reside on the economically deprived west side.
David Croxford
Sue Larkin wrote:
> .....
> Must admit I wasn't aware of the security guard/public access problem.
> There are 2 security shacks...one, a short distance from the freeway,
> on the main road and another one at the side street entrance to the
> hotel. I've never figured out why the first guard shack even exists!
The first time I visited Ko'Olina as a new resident of the island, I
figured that the manned security shack at the entrance was to deter
unwanted guests and so turned around and left. It wasn't until last week=
,
some ten weeks after I had arrived that I heard, I believe from this grou=
p
that all beaches are open to the public here .... that raises a question.
There seem to be a lot of beaches on military reservations, are the
general public allowed to visit these beaches, even when they are on
military property?
I admit I've never tried because I have assumed that only military
personnel are allowed on the installations.
David
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"Sue Larkin" <sue...@pobox.com> wrote in message
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>The Ihilani Resort IS in the middle of nowhere...which is why
> many people like it! Civilization is but 10 minutes away, tho'.
What area, specifically, is that close? I had recalled seeing the Ihiliani
described as 45 mins. from Waikiki but couldn't find the source of that so I
called them directly and the woman who answered the phone said that are
about 40-45 mins. from Waikiki. Of course, I know it depends on traffic.
I also asked about whether or not all of the lagoons are netted-off from
sharks and large fish and she answered in the affirmative. I had heard that
they were but there it does not specify that in their brochure or on their
website. I wonder why; seems like it would be a selling-point.
(I realize that the risks of being attacked by a shark while swimming at the
other beaches is probably quite rare but still...)
>I live 15 min. away and consider Ko`olina the
> equivalent of an outer island vacation...even for just a morning of
> walking and beach!!!
You are so blessed to have that so close and be able to enjoy it.
What about the Kahala Mandarin? Ever go there? The Ihiliani and the Kahala
Mandarin are the two resorts on Oa`hu which appeal to me the most but
they're both quite pricey.
> There are 2 security shacks...one, a short distance from the freeway,
> on the main road and another one at the side street entrance to the
> hotel.
Are there guards on-duty 24 hrs. a day?
Also, do most of the better hotels and resorts in general have 24 hr.
security?
>I've never figured out why the first guard shack even exists!
My guess would be for extra security. A criminal is less likely to get past
two guards than he is to get past one.
>Bev's right about public access to all
> beaches. I love watching the local families picnicking, playing and
> swimming. The lagoons are a wonderful respite for many people who
> reside on the economically deprived west side.
It's nice that anyone can enjoy them, even those w/ out the means to stay
there.
To the best of my knowldedge, most beaches (at least from high-tide line
down) in the U.S. must, by law, be accessible to the public. So, obviously
this is a great advantage in living near nice beaches.
Noach
"David Croxford" <phot...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The first time I visited Ko'Olina as a new resident of the island,
So you made it! You moved. Congratulations! Tell us more if you have a
chance.
> There seem to be a lot of beaches on military reservations, are the
> general public allowed to visit these beaches, even when they are on
> military property?
Good question. I would think that security considerations could override the
general law here.
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Is this line intentional? Or is part of the same problem which causes some
of your lines to break in awkaward places with '=' signs? Is this a software
problem? Do David's posts appear this way to others?
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On 27 Sep 2000 01:20:04 GMT, David Croxford <phot...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>There seem to be a lot of beaches on military reservations, are the
>general public allowed to visit these beaches, even when they are on
>military property?
>I admit I've never tried because I have assumed that only military
>personnel are allowed on the installations.
The military considers itself above state law, and therefore does not
provide beach access except under special circumstances.
Michael J Wise
Noach wrote:
> What area, specifically, is that close? I had recalled seeing the Ihiliani
> described as 45 mins. from Waikiki but couldn't find the source of that so I
> called them directly and the woman who answered the phone said that are
> about 40-45 mins. from Waikiki. Of course, I know it depends on traffic.
Scroll ALL the way down. You're probably looking at the place now, but...
Scroll over until you see the lowest point. That's Diamondhead. Just to
the North-West is the Ala Wai canal, shaped like a hockeystick. The region
between the Ala Wai canal and the sea is Waiki~ki~. Scroll to the right,
and it goes up a bit thru Honolulu City Center, and then there's a
rectangle jutting out into the sea. That's the airport. Just west is
Hickam AFB, and the massive blue "Tree" thing just west of there is Pearl
Harbor. The island in the middle is called "Ford Island", and on the
easternmost side is where the USS Arizona was docked at 8am, December 7th,
1941. Scroll to the right some more, until the land stops going down and
sharply starts going up again. That is Barber's Point, site of a certain
Naval Air Station, the Campbell Industrial Park (Oil Refineries, 'n stuff,
the trades blow all the crap out to sea...), the Paradise Cove Luau,
and... (near the little blue inlet, I guess)
The Lagoons at Ihilani.
> I also asked about whether or not all of the lagoons are netted-off from
> sharks and large fish and she answered in the affirmative. I had heard that
> they were but there it does not specify that in their brochure or on their
> website. I wonder why; seems like it would be a selling-point.
On the one hand, sharks are (usually) only interested in eating towards
dusk, and there are so many other shark-sized things that one WANTS to
come in... namely da Honu!
On the other hand, yeah, on a Leeward shore, nice to be sure.
> What about the Kahala Mandarin? Ever go there? The Ihiliani and the Kahala
> Mandarin are the two resorts on Oa`hu which appeal to me the most but
> they're both quite pricey.
Yup. Kahala Mandarin has dolphin (and Honu!) shows. Don't get to swim with
'em though. Oh well. They are just EAST of Diamondhead, follow the coast
until you are getting close to the highway again, and just before... there
is a little spot with no roads. Bingo. Oh, and while we're heading east,
that bit that looks like a can-opener is Hanauma Bay. Just to the west of
it is Hawai`i Kai.
Another one you may wish to consider is the Turtle Beach Hilton on the
north shore. Rent a car, and it's quite nice. However, it seems to be
showing its age in some ways, and I hope that they've dealt with the fruit
fly problem I saw there in one restaurant a year or so back....
I remember waking up to the sound of someone racking on my first morning
there, and getting up to look, and they were about 100' away! SO quiet!
All rooms have ocean view (the place is shaped like a three-point star at
the end of a point), the pool was wonderful, local-kine kids run by you on
the way to the ledge, jump off, swim about 100' out, and start surfing.
Way-kewl!
But DON'T YOU! Notice the rocks, 'n'K? BOGUS! Unfortunately, where there
is surf, there must, by definition, be rocks close to the surface.
Personally, if I were to go on a vacation for a week or so, and wanted to
feel like I was in Hawai`i without spending $400 a day, I'd be looking at
either the Hyatt Maui, or the Hilton Waikoloa.
But if they HAVE dealt with the Fruit Fly problem, the Turtle Bay Hilton
would be my first choice on O`ahu. Heh. Almost forgot....
Back to the map. Scroll ALL the way up. Search for the highest point.
That's it. To the South-West is the largest surf in the world during the
winter months. Just where it starts to head straight west again is
Hale`iwa, and a certain shave-ice shop. And a burger place!
Oh well. Now I've done it. Hungry time.
> Are there guards on-duty 24 hrs. a day?
My guess, yes. There is always staff around at a hotel 24x7, and I would
be very surprised if they sent all the security guards home at 6pm.
Michael J Wise
Michael J Wise wrote:
> Scroll ALL the way down. You're probably looking at the place now, but...
> Scroll over until you see the lowest point. That's Diamondhead. Just to
> the North-West is the Ala Wai canal, shaped like a hockeystick. The region
> between the Ala Wai canal and the sea is Waiki~ki~. Scroll to the right,
LEFT! WEST! AAARG!
> and it goes up a bit thru Honolulu City Center, and then there's a
> rectangle jutting out into the sea. That's the airport. Just west is
> Hickam AFB, and the massive blue "Tree" thing just west of there is Pearl
> Harbor. The island in the middle is called "Ford Island", and on the
> easternmost side is where the USS Arizona was docked at 8am, December 7th,
> 1941. Scroll to the right
LEFT! WEST! AAAGH, THE PAIN! Sigh...
> Yup. Kahala Mandarin has dolphin (and Honu!) shows. Don't get to swim with
> 'em though. Oh well. They are just EAST of Diamondhead, follow the coast
> until you are getting close to the highway again, and just before... there
> is a little spot with no roads. Bingo. Oh, and while we're heading east,
> that bit that looks like a can-opener is Hanauma Bay. Just to the west of
> it is Hawai`i Kai.
Looks ok.
> Back to the map. Scroll ALL the way up. Search for the highest point.
> That's it. To the South-West is the largest surf in the world during the
> winter months. Just where it starts to head straight west again is
> Hale`iwa, and a certain shave-ice shop. And a burger place!
Looks ok.
WHY can't I notice the mistakes BEFORE I post? Oh well....
Sue Larkin
Noach <add...@reply-to.is.accurate> wrote:
: "Sue Larkin" <sue...@pobox.com> wrote in message
: >The Ihilani Resort IS in the middle of nowhere...which is why
: > many people like it! Civilization is but 10 minutes away, tho'.
: What area, specifically, is that close?
Kapolei and Waikele are 10 min., toward town. Nanakuli is 10 min. past
Ko`olina. Keep in mind that the term "civilization" isn't necessarily
synonymous with city or tourist attraction. In this case it means
grocery stores (Kapolei and Nanakuli), movie theaters (a large complex
in Kapolei...1 theater in Nanakuli but not sure it's still
operational), restaurants (including fast food...and in limited
numbers... in all 3 communities) and shopping (Waikele).
: I had recalled seeing the Ihiliani
: described as 45 mins. from Waikiki but couldn't find the source of that so I
: called them directly and the woman who answered the phone said that are
: about 40-45 mins. from Waikiki. Of course, I know it depends on traffic.
This is true!
: >I live 15 min. away and consider Ko`olina the
: > equivalent of an outer island vacation...even for just a morning of
: > walking and beach!!!
:
: You are so blessed to have that so close and be able to enjoy it.
I hear ya!!!
: What about the Kahala Mandarin? Ever go there? The Ihiliani and the Kahala
: Mandarin are the two resorts on Oa`hu which appeal to me the most but
: they're both quite pricey.
Been there! It's wonderful, but...prior to it becoming the Mandarin in
1996 it was the Kahala Hilton for around 30 years, iirc. The KH was my
hang out for at least 10 years, mainly for music and dancing. The "cast
of characters" there became like 2nd family. It was the best kept
secret in town! Such wonderful memories! I'm still huhu at the change
over! There'll never be another Maile Lounge! And Kit Samson's Sound
Advice was THE BEST music in town! The hotel...and the lounge...drew
celebrities and dignitaries alike. Sharing the dance floor with Imelda
Marcos or listening to George Shearing, who sat in, were just 2 of the
many, many experiences at the old KH! Some more, umm, palatable than
others!
: > There are 2 security shacks...one, a short distance from the freeway,
: > on the main road and another one at the side street entrance to the
: > hotel.
:
: Are there guards on-duty 24 hrs. a day?
Yes, I believe so.
: >I've never figured out why the first guard shack even exists!
:
: My guess would be for extra security. A criminal is less likely to get past
: two guards than he is to get past one.
Possibly! It's pretty unintimidating! However, it's presence can be a
deterrant, I guess.
: To the best of my knowldedge, most beaches (at least from high-tide line
: down) in the U.S. must, by law, be accessible to the public. So, obviously
: this is a great advantage in living near nice beaches.
Growing up in a beach community in SoCal I remember seeing signs along
the beach..."Private beach...to mean high tide".
Irwin Lazar
On 16 Sep 2000 21:05:02 GMT, "PatMull is just a fat bastard"
<mu...@madasafish.com> wrote:
>
>Michael
>
>go raibh mile maith agat ( a thousand thanks), very much appreciated, I have
>heard that the hospitality and food has to be sampled to be appreciated, if
>everyone is as friendly as you I envisage a wonderful stay, again thank you.
>
>I also want to have a helicopter flight over a volcano, I was told that it
>is an awsome sight, do some snorkeling and visit the beach in Halona
>blowhole (sp) where Burt Lancaster kissed Deborah Kerr in from here to
>eternity, I'm a movie freak :-).
>
>I am also looking forward to the food :-)))
when we were in Kaua'i last summer, there was a company that did tours
of sites used in movies. You might want to see if there is one on the
island that you will be staying on.
Irwin