Hawaiian translations
tom patrick mcauliffe
Could someone please translate this for me?
We are trying to name our new home...
Mahalo
Tom@SF
House of the Sea
House of Joy
Sea & Sun View
???
Makai = ocean?
Karl Magnacca
On 30 Oct 1999 03:05:03 GMT, tom patrick mcauliffe <tom...@home.com>
wrote:
>
>Could someone please translate this for me?
>We are trying to name our new home...
>Mahalo
>Tom@SF
>
>House of the Sea
Hale Kahakai
>House of Joy
Hale Aloha
>Sea & Sun View
Kilokahakai/Kilola? (not sure about these)
Karl
Kalaninuiana`olekaumaiiluna Mondoy
Karl Magnacca wrote:
> >
> >House of the Sea
>
> Hale Kahakai
>
> >House of Joy
>
> Hale Aloha
I like your version of House of Joy. Because you know that there was a
school (I think) that was Hale Le`a and can have a negative connotation.
:-)
I also like your beach house meaning to much better than the longer
version of Ka hale o ke kai. :-) I hate translation, especially INTO
English. I can do the opposite but hate translating ANY language into
English. Mainly because I think it's the English speaker who looks for
a near literal translation so I end up doing so knowing that it doesn't
work very well.
Karen Lofstrom
Kalaninuiana`olekaumaiiluna Mondoy <motu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
:> >House of Joy
:>
:> Hale Aloha
: I like your version of House of Joy. Because you know that there was a
: school (I think) that was Hale Le`a and can have a negative connotation.
The Hanalei district of Kauai was historically called Halele'a, house
of joy. From an ancient Hawaiian's point of view it had everything, I
suppose -- good fishing, streams to support kalo lo'i, wild lands to
harvest.
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Karl Magnacca
On 31 Oct 1999 18:20:07 GMT, Kalaninuiana`olekaumaiiluna Mondoy
>>
>> Hale Aloha
>
>I like your version of House of Joy. Because you know that there was a
>school (I think) that was Hale Le`a and can have a negative connotation.
Actually I didn't, but I figured aloha was close enough to joy and
more people would understand it. What's the negative?
>I also like your beach house meaning too much better than the longer
>version of Ka hale o ke kai. :-)
Yeah, that was what I figured too. Just about all the Hawaiian I know
comes from Place Names, so that's the context I think of it in :-)
> I hate translation, especially INTO
>English. I can do the opposite but hate translating ANY language into
>English. Mainly because I think it's the English speaker who looks for
>a near literal translation so I end up doing so knowing that it doesn't
>work very well.
It probably also has to do with English-speaking people having spread
all over, and (especially with regard to places) the most specific
words tend to be those that deal with things that are most localized
(like the oft-repeated "Eskimos have 200 words for snow" anecdote).
For example, I imagine it would be hard to translate "glen" into
Hawaiian, but it probably doesn't come up very often.
Karl
Michael J Wise
In <nortle-941...@news.lava.net>,
Kalaninuiana`olekaumaiiluna wrote:
> I like your version of House of Joy. Because you know that there was a
> school (I think) that was Hale Le`a and can have a negative connotation.
As in, "House of Pleasure", yes?
Aloha mai Nai`a!
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Kalaninuiana`olekaumaiiluna Mondoy
Karen Lofstrom wrote:
>
> The Hanalei district of Kauai was historically called Halele'a, house
> of joy. From an ancient Hawaiian's point of view it had everything, I
> suppose -- good fishing, streams to support kalo lo'i, wild lands to
> harvest.
The whole district? Ooh, nani ho`i `o Kaua`i! *L*
Hilohana
hale is house
hale makai is sea house
the noun comes first in Hawaiian and the description after
kai is sea
moana is ocean
there is a condo on Maui called
hale ono loa which is
house of good living
(house good much)
Kalaninuiana`olekaumaiiluna Mondoy
I wonder who comes up with these names? I think `Ono as far as I know
means "to crave" or as we all know it, "delicious". Oh wait, probably
the Maui Visitor's Bur. had a big part in naming the condos? *G*
Ed Hefferon
Hilohana wrote:
>
> there is a condo on Maui called
> hale ono loa which is
> house of good living
> (house good much)
My mother in law tried to teach me conversational Hawaiian, (a
rather ordinary student) i somehow got the impression that "ono" only
referred to food being good.
Aloha ed
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Judy Barrett
Ed Hefferon wrote:
Smells can be ono, performances or situations can be ono (just as in
colloquial English a tune can be "tasty"), you can be ono (hungry for)
something.....but I still can't make sense of "hale ono loa."
Phil
Judy Barrett <j-ba...@att.net> wrote in article
<nortle-942...@news.lava.net>...
> Ed Hefferon wrote:
> > Hilohana wrote:
> > >
> > > there is a condo on Maui called
> > > hale ono loa which is
> > > house of good living
> > > (house good much)
> Smells can be ono, performances or situations can be ono (just as in
> colloquial English a tune can be "tasty"), you can be ono (hungry for)
> something.....but I still can't make sense of "hale ono loa."
According to Pukui: ono means either a fish or six. For delicious, good,
or tasty - the word would be 'ono. So hale ono loa might mean Big House
Number Six. Kinda like the condo Elima Lani means Heavenly Five. Or some
resorts with more than one property put words like Ekahi (#1), Elua (#2) or
Ekolu (#3) in their names.
Just my 2 cents. E kala mai ia'u.