Donovan's Reef
yenman40
Just finished watching Big John and Donovan's Reef and was wondering about
the history of the film. Where was it filmed, (has that Hanalei river look
about it) and what ever happened to the children on the show? Also are
those PCC people doing the singing and dance scenes? Just wondering, Thanks
David W. Lumpkins
In article <nortle-916...@news.lava.net>, "yenman40"
<yenm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What are "PCC people"? Just curious. Maybe it's something I should know
but don't.
How long ago was "Donovan's Reef" filmed? The 60's? My brain cells are
mildly stimulated by the words, but not very much. I guess it didn't make
that big an impression on me. Who was in it? John Wayne? Fill me in.
Like some others here, I'm in an eternal learning mode.
--
David Lumpkins
dlum...@newsguy.com
SandyB
yenman40 wrote:
>
> Just finished watching Big John and Donovan's Reef and was wondering about
> the history of the film. Where was it filmed, (has that Hanalei river look
> about it) and what ever happened to the children on the show? Also are
> those PCC people doing the singing and dance scenes? Just wondering, Thanks
Some information from the book: "Made
in Paradise" by Luis S. Reyes 1995
"Exteriors of Donovan's Reef were filmed
during 4 weeks on the Island of
Kauai...Such tourist attractions as the
Wailua River, Hanamaulu Beach, Makahuena
Point, Nawiliwili Harbor, Waimea Canyon
and Kalihiawi Bay are prominent in the
backgrounds."
"A native village of 31 grass shaks was
built by paramount construction crews
among the palm trees at Hanamaulu Beach,
where the company worked for 3 days.
Adding decoratively to this setting were
seventy of the most beautiful girls of
Polynesian blood to be found on Kauai
and in Honolulu. Also brought to Kauai
to perform a ceremonial dance were 22
teenage Hawaiian girls from Honolulu."
Aloha,
SandyB
sandyb@aloha,net
yenman40
Sorry, I thought the movie was more famous than it apparently is. John
Wayne and Lee Marvin were the stars of the show. PCC refers to the
Polynesian Cultural Center in Laie. Yes, I believe it was filmed in the
mid-sixties. Plot is; three war heros stay on in the Pacific island after
the war because they prefer to be part of this lifestyle and culture rather
than return to mainland. (smart guys, they probably knew that the mainland
suffered from occasional winter). Thanks.
Daniel Deronda
In article <nortle-916...@news.lava.net> SandyB <san...@aloha.net> writes:
>
>Some information from the book: "Made
>in Paradise" by Luis S. Reyes 1995
>
I have always been curious to see this film. It receives a brief
mention in Kanahele's history of Hawaiian Music as featuring two
notable musical episodes. One was the singing of Pupu A`o `Ewa,
the film's theme song, by a mixed chorus a cappella. For the more
serious or romantic scenes the song, Waipi`o, was performed.
dpp_spammusubi_eater
"David W. Lumpkins" wrote:
>
> In article <nortle-916...@news.lava.net>, "yenman40"
> <yenm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> What are "PCC people"? Just curious. Maybe it's something I should know
> but don't.
Polynesian Cultural Center perhaps?
--
\m/ ^_^ \m/ Mahalo, DPP
December 1999 @ The Stan Sheriff Center, on the ground of the
BEEEYUUUUTEEEEEFUL Manoa Campus. The NCAA Division I Women's
Volleyball Final Four.
Billy Wright
TMBK the production of _Donovan's Reef_ predated by some years the
establishment of the Polynesian Cultural Center, so there wouldn't have been
any PCC cast members available for the production.
yenman40 wrote:
> Just finished watching Big John and Donovan's Reef and was wondering about
> the history of the film. Where was it filmed, (has that Hanalei river look
> about it) and what ever happened to the children on the show? Also are
> those PCC people doing the singing and dance scenes? Just wondering, Thanks
--
Yours most sincerely,
Billy Wright
mailto:wsw...@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~wsw5740/
David W. Lumpkins
The movie was very famous, but thanks for refreshing my brain cells. It
all clicked right back in. Nice film, but I don't remember much of the
actual plot. Guess I was too busy looking for landmarks. <g>
What you said about winter on the mainland really hit the mark with me.
I'm listening to a howler outside as I write this. Thanks be, this one
will be rain -- I hope.
Aloha,
David
--
David Lumpkins
dlum...@newsguy.com
David W. Lumpkins
In article <nortle-916...@news.lava.net>, dpp_spammusubi_eater
<dpp.kan...@aloha.spammusubi.nety> wrote:
> "David W. Lumpkins" wrote:
> >
> > In article <nortle-916...@news.lava.net>, "yenman40"
> > <yenm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > What are "PCC people"? Just curious. Maybe it's something I should know
> > but don't.
>
> Polynesian Cultural Center perhaps?
I'm a bit redfaced on this one, folks. This one I am savvy about, but not
this time. You know, people in the islands use initials for every public
institution that is important to them in any way. I got turned around one
time when someone referred to DOE. I was thinking "Federal Government"
.. "Dept. of Energy"?! That had no pertinence to the discussion at hand.
It turned out to be the Hawai`i Department of Education. <g>
--
David Lumpkins
dlum...@newsguy.com
Zita Maria Evensen
>
>> Sorry, I thought the movie was more famous than it apparently is. John
>> Wayne and Lee Marvin were the stars of the show. PCC refers to the
>> Polynesian Cultural Center in Laie. Yes, I believe it was filmed in the
>> mid-sixties. Plot is; three war heros stay on in the Pacific island after
>> the war because they prefer to be part of this lifestyle and culture rather
>> than return to mainland. (smart guys, they probably knew that the mainland
>> suffered from occasional winter). Thanks.
>
> --
> David Lumpkins
> dlum...@newsguy.com
>
>
the obvious stereotyping of Hawaiian people. It seems to me, it is take off
of South Pacific ( in some ways).
/z.
--
i walk in and out of many doors --
i am mixed blood/mixed metaphor.
/z. _first calligraphy_, 1998
Rinn
Daniel Deronda wrote in message ...
One was the singing of Pupu A`o `Ewa,
This is one of my ALL-TIME FAVORITE SONGS. Now I will be whistling it
all
day! :)
Rinn
David W. Lumpkins
In article <nortle-916...@news.lava.net>, ao...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
(Zita Maria Evensen) wrote:
> One of my dad's favourite movies ('cuz of John Wayne) -- but he was stung by
> the obvious stereotyping of Hawaiian people. It seems to me, it is take off
> of South Pacific ( in some ways).
>
> /z.
I think so too, Zita. It was "Romance, Inc.", but more in the adventure
category. Still a good movie. What did they know then? <g>
--
David Lumpkins
dlum...@newsguy.com
TAGarl
My wife and I saw one of the beaches from the movie Donovan's Reef on the
Hollywood Movie Tour that is on Kauai. I remember the guide told us that palm
trees were brought from L.A. and used in a scene at the beach.
King Pineapple
yenman40 <yenm...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<nortle-916...@news.lava.net>...
|
| Just finished watching Big John and Donovan's Reef and was wondering
about
| the history of the film. Where was it filmed, (has that Hanalei river
look
| about it) and what ever happened to the children on the show? Also are
| those PCC people doing the singing and dance scenes? Just wondering,
Thanks
As Sandy has answered the "where", but neglected the "when", it was
released in 1963, and is available on video for those interested. That
happens to be the year I moved to Kailua, think I'll watch it again to see
what "1963 Hawaii" looks like.
Eddie Lopez
On 22 Jan 1999 03:20:09 GMT, "King Pineapple"
<crai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>As Sandy has answered the "where", but neglected the "when", it was
>released in 1963, and is available on video for those interested. That
>happens to be the year I moved to Kailua, think I'll watch it again to see
>what "1963 Hawaii" looks like.
Hmm, how interesting. It just so happens that I have hundreds of
slides of the Waikiki area that I took in 1963. It was an
assignment for a venture that never came about. (the slides were
to fit in a small viewer that were to be sold to tourists) Every
once in awhile I whip out the old slide projector and return to
1963. If my memory serves me right the main buildings were the
Moana, the Royal, the Princess Kaiulani, and a fairly high
building that was round but was not a hotel I think. Everything
else were two and three story buildings.
Those were the days my friends.
Eddie in San Jose
>
>
Chris McEwen
Eddie, you forgot the Waikiki Biltmore hotel.
Anyone remember the Queen's Surf? Anyone remember the controversy around
its destruction?
--Chris McEwen reply to:
Northwestern Stamps & Seals nwst...@sprintmail.com
King Pineapple
Eddie Lopez <hig...@mci2000.com> wrote in article
<nortle-916...@news.lava.net>...
|
| <crai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
|
| >As Sandy has answered the "where", but neglected the "when", it was
| >released in 1963, and is available on video for those interested. That
| >happens to be the year I moved to Kailua, think I'll watch it again to
see
| >what "1963 Hawaii" looks like.
| Hmm, how interesting. It just so happens that I have hundreds of
| slides of the Waikiki area that I took in 1963. It was an
| assignment for a venture that never came about. (the slides were
| to fit in a small viewer that were to be sold to tourists) Every
| once in awhile I whip out the old slide projector and return to
| Moana, the Royal, the Princess Kaiulani, and a fairly high
| building that was round but was not a hotel I think. Everything
| else were two and three story buildings.
| Those were the days my friends.
| Eddie in San Jose
Yep, sure looks different now! It's funny, I'm getting a free preview of
HBO and Showtime this weekend and they were showing another movie made
about the same time, "In Harm's Way" (also with John Wayne). I remember
watching them film some of the battle scenes at Bellows AFB in Waimanalo
when I lived in Kailua. They had what seemed like a thousand destroyers out
in the ocean off the beach.
That other "fairly high building" you're thinking of may have been the Ala
Moana tower, the one that had the revolving restaurant on the top?
David W. Lumpkins
In article <nortle-917...@news.lava.net>, "King Pineapple"
<crai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> That other "fairly high building" you're thinking of may have been the Ala
> Moana tower, the one that had the revolving restaurant on the top?
I have seen pictures from those years, too, and remember the tower from
later visits. I'll bet it really was the Ala Moana Tower mentioned in the
above post. Who knows how long that one will last in an age of
impermanence? <sigh>
We obviously have to reaquaint ourselves with the cityscape from time to
time just to keep up with things.
David
--
David Lumpkins
dlum...@newsguy.com
Ed Hefferon
Eddie Lopez wrote:
>=20
> On 22 Jan 1999 03:20:09 GMT, "King Pineapple"
> <crai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> >
>=20
> >
> >As Sandy has answered the "where", but neglected the "when", it was
> >released in 1963, and is available on video for those interested. That
> >happens to be the year I moved to Kailua, think I'll watch it again to=
see
> >what "1963 Hawaii" looks like.
> Hmm, how interesting. It just so happens that I have hundreds of
> slides of the Waikiki area that I took in 1963. It was an
> assignment for a venture that never came about. (the slides were
> to fit in a small viewer that were to be sold to tourists) Every
> once in awhile I whip out the old slide projector and return to
> 1963. If my memory serves me right the main buildings were the
> Moana, the Royal, the Princess Kaiulani, and a fairly high
> building that was round but was not a hotel I think. Everything
> else were two and three story buildings.
> Those were the days my friends.
> Eddie in San Jose
> >
> >As Eddie said those were the days my friends, And thats the way it sh=
ould have stayed, i left the islands about the time the house i grew up i=
n became part of the parking lot for the Kaimanu hotel
Ed in Western Australia
--=20
=D0=CF=11=E0=A1=B1=1A=E1
Eddie Lopez
On 24 Jan 1999 02:35:06 GMT, "King Pineapple"
<crai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Eddie Lopez <hig...@mci2000.com> wrote in article
><nortle-916...@news.lava.net>...
>|
>| On 22 Jan 1999 03:20:09 GMT, "King Pineapple"
>| <crai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>|
>| Hmm, how interesting. It just so happens that I have hundreds of
>| slides of the Waikiki area that I took in 1963. It was an
>| assignment for a venture that never came about.
>| Moana, the Royal, the Princess Kaiulani, and a fairly high
>| building that was round but was not a hotel I think.
>
>That other "fairly high building" you're thinking of may have been the Ala
>Moana tower, the one that had the revolving restaurant on the top?
Chris, yup, the Biltmore was there.
King, The Ala Moana tower was also there but I was referring to
buildings in Waikiki. AMT was on (and still is) far from Waikiki
(well, sort of). The round building was on Kalakaua Ave. facing
Kuhio Beach and just Ewa of Kapahulu and very close to a famous
church.
BTW, AMT was where our first born's doctor's office was. Dr.
Lyle Bachman. Hmm, anyone know if he's still practicing? Nah,
can't be, he delivered our first born Oct. 1958 at Kapiolani
hospital and that would make him around 75 years old. But if
someone would check the tel. directory and - - -?
Aloha you all
Eddie in San Jose
>
SandyB
I got to see "Tora, Tora, Tora" for the
first time last week. That must have
been quite the production.
I especially liked the veiws as the
Japenese planes arrived over the North
Shore and traveled accross the Island.
SandyB
san...@aloha.net
Mel
In article <nortle-917...@news.lava.net>, SandyB
<san...@aloha.net> wrote:
When "Tora Tora Tora" opened in 1970, it ushered in the then newly opened
Waikiki #1 and #2 theatres.
Sharon Pomroy
If Eddie is saying all of his photos were of the Waikiki area in 1963
then it could not have the Ala Moana building aka the La Rond for the
restaurant in the space sacuer at the top of the building.. That
building is way out side of Wakiki.
The biggest buildings in Waikiki then were the Royal Hawaiian, Moana and
Biltmore hotels. The Hyatt is where the Biltmore was. There is a round
building Daimond Head side of the Hyatt. That building was caled Foster
Towers I think. That round building has been there a long time. Although
I grew up in Kapahulu in the 50's and spent much time on Waikii beach I
don't recall when the round building was built.
I do remember Waikiki failry well and it amazes me just how much it has
changed. In the area around Ohua St. there was all kind of crowded,
small alley ways that led to many run down shanty type houses. I had
several friendswho lived there and we would run through there liked we
owned it. The pake and japanese laundry ladies would get very mad at us
because we would run through their hanging laundry. There was a front
along Kalakua that had a grocery store, a laundry service and a
restaurant. I don't remember the names but I do remember the sights,
sounds and more so the smells.
On the makai side of Kalakaua were the tables where they would gather
tosit under the Hau trees and play checkers, chess, cards and gamble.
wow. Thanks
America-with liberty and justice for all.... Where then, is
the liberty and justice for Na Kanaka Maoli, the Native people of
Hawai'i? IKE PONO! EA! ALOHA.
Alvin E. Toda
On 25 Jan 1999, SandyB wrote:
> I got to see "Tora, Tora, Tora" for the
> first time last week. That must have
> been quite the production.
> I especially liked the veiws as the
> Japenese planes arrived over the North
> Shore and traveled accross the Island.
I remember seeing the plane scenes being photographed from
the high school I attended. Also saw the plane scenes being
photographed in Wahaiawa near schofield. It seems they
really tried to be authentic in the film. Even the radar
station on the north shore seemed filmed on site.
The film was also interesting because it portrayed the
Japanese viewpoint of the war. It was described in the
papers, but it seems a lot of people missed these points
when they see the movie. For example, the portrayal
for the late meeting with the President AFTER the attack
had started as being caused by bad typing of a formal
statement of the Japanese embassy there. In fact, as
was reported in a news report of a Japanese scandal,
the urgency of the letter was not immediate. It had
to be unencoded and it was at the end of a long
statement-- so that staff went out for a long luncheon
not knowing that the message was supposed to be
delivered so the Americans would a sufficient warning
for the attack.
It was a scandal because the Japanese foreign ministry
was itself to blame for the screw-up and they had
blamed the embassy staff from day 1. It did portray
some of the scandal on our side too. The fact that
we had broken the Japanese codes, and despite some
opportunities for advance warnings, it was still a
complete surprise. It's been about 50 years since
the attack. You'd think the whole story would have
come out by now.
I found the portrayal of the Japanese admiral's
battle meeting a little humorous, with him being
in a Zen-meditative state and only responding to
the words "Tora,Tora,Tora!" with his own terse
response. Basically, he was aware of the strenght
of this country having been educated here: "We
have awakened a sleeping giant" (it being a
complete surprise attack-- unexpected). I've
heard of Japanese representatives of dozing off
in meetings of being in "deep thought". And
perhaps this is what they are trying to do.
--alvin
Ed Hefferon
Sharon, thanks for the memories, I attended the Catholic school on
Pauokalani (sp) in the 50's and was an alter boy at the church. Most
likely chased by the same laundry ladies that chased you. If i recall
the foster tower was built 61/62 and it was the first building to block
the view of diamond head from parts of Kauakaua ave, there was a
half-hearted movement to have it torn down to open up the view
Aloha Ed in western australia
Sharon Pomroy wrote:
>=20
> If Eddie is saying all of his photos were of the Waikiki area in 1963
> then it could not have the Ala Moana building aka the La Rond for the
> restaurant in the space sacuer at the top of the building.. That
> building is way out side of Wakiki.
>=20
> The biggest buildings in Waikiki then were the Royal Hawaiian, Moana an=
d
> Biltmore hotels. The Hyatt is where the Biltmore was. There is a round
> building Daimond Head side of the Hyatt. That building was caled Foster
> Towers I think. That round building has been there a long time. Althoug=
h
> I grew up in Kapahulu in the 50's and spent much time on Waikii beach I
> don't recall when the round building was built.
>=20
> I do remember Waikiki failry well and it amazes me just how much it has
> changed. In the area around Ohua St. there was all kind of crowded,
> small alley ways that led to many run down shanty type houses. I had
> several friendswho lived there and we would run through there liked we
> owned it. The pake and japanese laundry ladies would get very mad at us
> because we would run through their hanging laundry. There was a front
> along Kalakua that had a grocery store, a laundry service and a
> restaurant. I don't remember the names but I do remember the sights,
> sounds and more so the smells.
>=20
> On the makai side of Kalakaua were the tables where they would gather
> tosit under the Hau trees and play checkers, chess, cards and gamble.
>=20
> wow. Thanks
>=20
> America-with liberty and justice for all.... Where then, is
> the liberty and justice for Na Kanaka Maoli, the Native people of
> Hawai'i? IKE PONO! EA! ALOHA.
--=20
=D0=CF=11=E0=A1=B1=1A=E1
David W. Lumpkins
In article <nortle-917...@news.lava.net>, SPOM...@webtv.net
(Sharon Pomroy) wrote:
> If Eddie is saying all of his photos were of the Waikiki area in 1963
> then it could not have the Ala Moana building aka the La Rond for the
> restaurant in the space sacuer at the top of the building.. That
> building is way out side of Wakiki.
Yes. The building I remember as "the round one with the restaurant on
top" was/is mauka and in the city proper as opposed to Waikiki, but it was
part of the "city view" from Waikiki.
What a wonderful memory you have, Sharon!
By the way, I've got slides of Honolulu and Waikiki taken in 1948.
They're Kodachromes, and they've faded noticeably, but they're amazing. I
was only four years old then, so I didn't take them, but some dear friends
who were stationed at Pearl Harbor during WW II shot them when they lived
on O`ahu. They left them to us in their will. Great stuff! It's hard to
believe that things could have been so sweet and uncomplicated back then.
Where to go for dinner?.... Well, I guess the Royal Hawaiian or the Moana
might do nicely, my dear... <G>
And I'm sure they did just fine to feed the famished, just as the
multitude of choices we have today do, but differently and almost surely
with more "style."
Aloha,
Yoda
[...]
> I do remember Waikiki failry well and it amazes me just how much it has
> changed. In the area around Ohua St. there was all kind of crowded,
> small alley ways that led to many run down shanty type houses. I had
> several friendswho lived there and we would run through there liked we
> owned it. The pake and japanese laundry ladies would get very mad at us
> because we would run through their hanging laundry. There was a front
> along Kalakua that had a grocery store, a laundry service and a
> restaurant. I don't remember the names but I do remember the sights,
> sounds and more so the smells.
That area was known as "The Jungle".
> On the makai side of Kalakaua were the tables where they would gather
> tosit under the Hau trees and play checkers, chess, cards and gamble.
They still do.
Back in the late 60s, I remember going to Waikiki nightclubs to see
entertainers like Zulu at Duke Kahanamoku's. This was before he renamed
himself Zoulou for Hawaii 5-0. Kimo Kahoano was just starting out as Zulu's
opening act as a fire-knife dancer -- he was pretty good too! Also remember
seeing Iva Kinimaka up at the Cock's Roost. Other entertainers would drop in
-- people like Boyce Rodrigues, Myra English, Jimmy Borges, Ethel Azama...
Carol Kai had her show at the Hilton Hawaiian's Garden Bar, and the Sunday
Manoa(Peter Moon, Robert and Roland Cazimero) had their gig at the Ilikai's
Canoe House. The Society of Seven was(and still is!) at the Outrigger.
Eddie Kamae and The Sons of Hawai`i -- funny how I can only remember seeing
them in an old television commercial for Datsun(before they became Nissan).
While Eddie was saying something to the camera, the rest of the Sons(dey
wasn't small buggahs eedah) could be seen behind in the background piling
into a Datsun station wagon. I believe Eddie got to keep that car for
himself.
Whoops...sorry, kinda strayed from the thread... <g>
Yoda
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Eddie Lopez
>
Ho Yoda, you remember lots, eh? But how you never remember Danny
Kaleikini at the Kahala? They nevah let you in there or what?
One thing I remember about Danny was he used one wireless mike.
Never had seen one before, and this was in 1966 or so. Now, of
course, everyone has 'em.
Oh yeah, ever see the Martin Denny show? I think he played at
the Moana. (You remember, "Quiet Village")
BTW I saw most of the entertainers you mention at night clubs
while taking tourists there. (I was a guide)
oh yes!
Eddie
ps, sorry to hear today about Herman Wedemeyer's passing.
Yoda
In article <nortle-917...@news.lava.net>,
hig...@mci2000.com (Eddie Lopez) wrote:
> Ho Yoda, you remember lots, eh? But how you never remember Danny
> Kaleikini at the Kahala? They nevah let you in there or what?
Nah Eddie, I never even considered going to see Danny "AloooooooooHA!"
Keleikini or Martin Denny because I was still young yet and thought those
guys were more for tourists and makule kama`aina! <g>
> ps, sorry to hear today about Herman Wedemeyer's passing.
Folks can read about Herman's passing
here: http://starbulletin.com/1999/01/26/news/story4.html
About a year ago, we went to the International Market Place's Food Court to
listen to some great hawaiian music provided by Dennis and David Kamakahi,
Mike Kaawa, Ocean Kaowili, BB Shawn, and Bobby Ingano. However, the
unexpected highlight of the evening was that Herman's brother Charlie(still
battling Lou Gehrig's disease) and his beautiful wife Lucy were out in the
audience. Dennis spotted Charlie right away and dedicated several songs to
them. The spirit of aloha that flowed that night made that open and breezy
outdoor venue a very warm and intimate setting -- a night I'll never forget.
Aloha,