Akamai University?
Sufi Baha'i
Is Akamai University in Hilo real or just a degree mill?
auntiemaria
Sufi Baha'i wrote:
> Is Akamai University in Hilo real or just a degree mill?
>
Their own website --- akamaiuniversity.us -- states:
AKAMAI UNIVERSITY IS NOT ACCREDITED BY AN ACCREDITING AGENCY OR
ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
'Nuff said...<g>
-- auntie maria
Sue Larkin
In article <1092435...@news.lava.net>, auntiemaria
<aun...@mele.com> wrote:
> Sufi Baha'i wrote:
>> Is Akamai University in Hilo real or just a degree mill?
>>
>
> Their own website --- akamaiuniversity.us -- states:
> AKAMAI UNIVERSITY IS NOT ACCREDITED BY AN ACCREDITING AGENCY OR
> ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
>
> 'Nuff said...<g>
>
> -- auntie maria
<tee hee> When I saw the original post all I could think of was an ABA
convention here more than 2 decades ago that my ex and I attended as
guests of his conservative banker relatives. Ex and I decided to be the
"official" representatives of Pakalolo National Bank, a unique,
strictly local bank catering to the, ummm, remote, island farmers by
bringing the banking services to the fields! Some fell for it; others
laughed! Akamai University seems to have it's own creative potential!!!
<g>
Kimo
Sue Larkin
> <tee hee> Ex and I decided to be the
> "official" representatives of Pakalolo National Bank, a unique,
> strictly local bank catering to the, ummm, remote, island farmers by
> bringing the banking services to the fields! Some fell for it; others
> laughed! Akamai University seems to have it's own creative potential!!!
> <g>
Haa. Sue you so fuuuuuneee!
eh.
back in da 70's I woulda fallen for it, mostly out of sheer optimism!
Richard Hassinger
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 22:10:02 -0000, auntiemaria <aun...@mele.com>
wrote:
Man, that's just plain scary.
Razzbar
auntiemaria <aun...@mele.com> wrote in message=20
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> Sufi Baha'i wrote:
>> Is Akamai University in Hilo real or just a degree mill?
>>
>
> AKAMAI UNIVERSITY IS NOT ACCREDITED BY AN ACCREDITING AGENCY OR
> ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
>
> 'Nuff said...<g>
I guess it means that if you get a degree from them, you
not so akamai.
I wonder if they're the same people who had another unacredited
university in Hilo about 10-15 years ago. There was one that
occupied the top of one of Hilo's nicer old buildings down
on Front st., had a more muckie-muck name, and their offices
were real classy looking -- but no accreditation. They had
a good talk about all their 'faculty' having good crededentials
and everything, but it still sounded basically like you give
them some money and they gave you a degree no matter what
kind of work you did. Also interesting was that they only
issued post graduate degrees.
Thing I wonder about these diploma stores is how many
employers really check up on this? How many check to see
if an applicant actually has the degree they claim, and
then how many check to see if that degree is from an
accredited university?
auntiemaria
Razzbar wrote:
> auntiemaria <aun...@mele.com> wrote in message=20
> news:<1092435...@news.lava.net>...
>
>> Sufi Baha'i wrote:
>>
>>> Is Akamai University in Hilo real or just a degree mill?
>>>
>>
>> Their own website --- akamaiuniversity.us -- states:
>> AKAMAI UNIVERSITY IS NOT ACCREDITED BY AN ACCREDITING AGENCY OR
>> ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
>>
>> 'Nuff said...<g>
>
>
>
> I guess it means that if you get a degree from them, you
> not so akamai.
<snip>
>
> Thing I wonder about these diploma stores is how many
> employers really check up on this? How many check to see
> if an applicant actually has the degree they claim, and
> then how many check to see if that degree is from an
> accredited university?
It's like the practitioners of various "therapies" who get
their "Ph.D." -- aka, Phony Doctorate <g> -- off the back
of some matchbook-cover-diploma-mill...
Kaua`i seems to be a magnet for folks who profess to have
"spiritual powers" and are "intuitive" with a "background in
metaphysics". Yep, they can spot an easy mark at 20 paces! <G>
-- auntie maria
Peter Forster
gl...@potatoradio.f2s.com (Razzbar) wrote in message=20
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> auntiemaria <aun...@mele.com> wrote in message=3D20
>>>
>>
>> AKAMAI UNIVERSITY IS NOT ACCREDITED BY AN ACCREDITING AGENCY OR
>> ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
>>
>> 'Nuff said...<g>
>
>
> I guess it means that if you get a degree from them, you
> not so akamai.
>
> university in Hilo about 10-15 years ago. There was one that
> occupied the top of one of Hilo's nicer old buildings down
> on Front st., had a more muckie-muck name, and their offices
> were real classy looking -- but no accreditation. They had
> a good talk about all their 'faculty' having good crededentials
> and everything, but it still sounded basically like you give
> them some money and they gave you a degree no matter what
> kind of work you did. Also interesting was that they only
> issued post graduate degrees.
>
> employers really check up on this? How many check to see
> if an applicant actually has the degree they claim, and
> then how many check to see if that degree is from an
> accredited university?
Employers are finally catching up with them. I have started to see a
trickle of news stories coming from the USA and Europe about
government employees (other organisations probably keep quiet about
it) who have either lost their jobs or been demoted because they had
qualifications from the 'degree mills.'
I also just got back to Europe after five years working at the
University of the South Pacific. It would probably be unwise for me to
say all that I think of their academic standards, but it is safe to
say that they are lower than any other university I know of. And they
are a legitimate and accredited university. So there are accredited
universities and accredited universities...
Peter Forster
Netherlands
Sue Larkin
In article <1092590...@news.lava.net>, moan...@yahoo.com (Peter
Forster) wrote:
[...]
> I also just got back to Europe after five years working at the
It's been 5 years? Wow! I remember when you made the move. Does your
return to Europe mean that the Big Island won't be seeing as much of
you, Peter?
Kimo
auntiemaria <aun...@mele.com>
> Kaua`i seems to be a magnet for folks who profess to have
> "spiritual powers" and are "intuitive" with a "background in
> metaphysics". Yep, they can spot an easy mark at 20 paces! <G>
>
> -- auntie maria
Dateline, Kauai...
Just saw something I couldn't believe. (well, saw it a while ago and
still can't believe it.) Cover story in an issue of Hawaii Magazine on
"Huna." Read it to find it's about some haole guy who scraped around
to create another fad cult to part the money from fools looking for
the latest incarnation of another self help group with their own
noumenclature, their own lingo, making the new recruit feel exclusive.
Serge King has a place on Kauai and this seems to validate the cult he
created by taking modern psychobabble and apropriating words from
Hawaiian culture and overlaying them in a veneer-thin fashion to suit
his ends.
We see from the article to some degree how this sleight of hand is
effected: "... Freud calls the three selves the ID, the ego and the
superego. King's Huna calls these the ku, the lono and the kane ..."
(lower case) "... my ku doesn't know the difference between your ku
and my ku ..."
"... When you get the ku, the lono and the kane to all be in unison,
you can get whatever you desire ..."
"... Being in touch with your ku allows you to bless things; I bless
this chair for holding me up. I bless my dog for being a good
companion ..."
"Now we will perform an ancient ritual known as 'talk story' " ...
"Indeed; it's a well known Hawaiian Saying: 'let that which is unknown
become known' "...
I've been a student of Hawaiian culture for two decades and I have
never heard that. Do they think they can get away with this kind of
stuff just because it sound like dialogue from a bad Merlin movie? To
validate his role, King tells us Max Freedom Long was studying and
practicing Huna in the '20s when it was supposedly illegal.
Hogwash. Plain and simple. This article was done by some haole woman
apparently in a sincere fashion with a straight face. But anyone
reading it who may have, to any degree, a sense of knowledge or
respect toward Hawaiian culture cannot keep a straight face while
reading it.
OK, what's going on here; articles on haoles giving each other
Hawaiian lineage, People on the mainland creating instant kahuna ...
warping and twisting around aspects of Hawaiian culture & words and
proclaiming themselves experts and keepers of ancient Hawaiian
secrets, all the while not speaking Hawaiian.
Many islanders are offended and insulted by this robbing of their
culture. One is also reminded of a previous Hawaii Magazine article on
the mainland "tiki fad" ( "I'm doing a survey on tiki bars; rate them
by tikis per square yard ...") It's unfortunate but I suppose, par for
the course: the Irvine, Mission Viejo and mid-Los Angeles based Hawaii
Magazine is not representing Hawaii. There are far more intelligent,
truthful and representative people and story angles to cover on these
subjets. Yet, Hawaii Mag goes the Disneyland route. Why?
For Hawaii magazine to present this non-Hawaiian "huna" thing as a
cover story; to even publish it, diminishes the magazine itself as an
intelligent periodical that supposedly represents Hawaii and reduces
its stature in the publishing arena. How and why, you may ask? And
well you may ask.
This Huna cult promulgated by King, Max Freedom Long, et al., among
other things, fully and totally misrepresents and disrespects the
Hawaiian culture and does a disservice to those who study and try to
advance knowledge of Polynesian religions, customs and South Seas
culture in general.
Look: I have nothing against someone creating another self help
prosperity conciousness group. He's got another positive thinking cult
going, and here's the gist of his approach: "Attention goes where
energy flows."
"You can get what you really desire if you think about it a lot and
you think positively a lot ... ."
If it makes people a little happier and brings them the posessions
they desire, fine and dandy, Chucko. Start another
fulfill-your-wildest-dreams group. But leave the Hawaiian words and
fake concepts out of it.
Don't call it Hawaiian when it definitely is not. Because it has
nothing to do with Polynesia. Since the days of Captain Cook,
foreigners have been determined to take from Hawaii. This continues
the reprehensible pernicious tradition. Leave the islands alone.
Popularising "huna" and telling the general readership these are
ancient secrets now revealed, is a sham. No wonder King calls himself
a "shaman."
Peter Forster
Sue Larkin <sue...@xobop.com> wrote in message
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I hope not. It's actually cheaper for me to fly there from the
Netherlands than from closer Vanuatu - the benefits of competition.
I also met a friend from UHH recently who wants a house in Hilo
looking after next summer. Whoo hoo!
Best wishes
Peter
auntiemaria
Kimo wrote:
> auntiemaria <aun...@mele.com>
>
>> Kaua`i seems to be a magnet for folks who profess to have
>> "spiritual powers" and are "intuitive" with a "background in
>> metaphysics". Yep, they can spot an easy mark at 20 paces! <G>
>>
>> -- auntie maria
>
>
> Dateline, Kauai...
>
> Just saw something I couldn't believe. (well, saw it a while ago and
> still can't believe it.) Cover story in an issue of Hawaii Magazine on
> "Huna." Read it to find it's about some haole guy who scraped around
> to create another fad cult to part the money from fools looking for
> the latest incarnation of another self help group with their own
> noumenclature, their own lingo, making the new recruit feel exclusive.
>
> Serge King has a place on Kauai and this seems to validate the cult he
> created by taking modern psychobabble and apropriating words from
> Hawaiian culture and overlaying them in a veneer-thin fashion to suit
> his ends.
Amen!! And I hope you'll be writing to Hawai`i Magazine...what
you've said here, should be read by many more.
-- auntie maria
quan...@hotmail.com
auntiemaria <aun...@mele.com> wrote in message
>>
>
> AKAMAI UNIVERSITY IS NOT ACCREDITED BY AN ACCREDITING AGENCY OR
> ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
>
> 'Nuff said...<g>
>
Not yet. Remembered watching the news a few years back and I thought
the state legislature banned diploma mills in Hawaii. If AU-we is
legal, the legislature may have only put in disclosure requirements.
Judy
Kimo wrote:
>
> Dateline, Kauai...
>
> Just saw something I couldn't believe. (well, saw it a while ago and
> still can't believe it.) Cover story in an issue of Hawaii Magazine on
> "Huna." Read it to find it's about some haole guy who scraped around
> to create another fad cult to part the money from fools looking for
> the latest incarnation of another self help group with their own
> noumenclature, their own lingo, making the new recruit feel exclusive.
>
> Serge King has a place on Kauai and this seems to validate the cult he
> created by taking modern psychobabble and apropriating words from
> Hawaiian culture and overlaying them in a veneer-thin fashion to suit
> his ends.
>
Kimo, I can't remember if that particular story mentioned it or not, but
Serge King's deal, before he discovered the ancient secrets of "Huna,"
was being a haole African and then Native American shaman. Whatever
sells, yeah?
And it DOES sell. Just like macadamia nuts and Kona coffee. I imagine
that's why it got published in Hawaii magazine. As you rightly note,
their roots are on the Mainland. It's geared to the tourist market. A
certain segment of the market is drawn to this stuff like flies
to....um, well.....
If you've never seen King's cable TV program, you really ought to try to
catch it. All you need is once. I caught it one time when he was telling
the (all haole) audience that the way to keep Hawaii and "Huna" in their
hearts is to take some object...any object...a rock or a key ring from
Long's (made in Taiwan?)...home and keep it where you can see and touch
it on a daily basis.
My favorite aspect of the "religion" is that these ancient "secrets"
previously shared only with those deemed worthy, usually a family
member, are now available for all to share...for a price! How Hawaiian
is THAT?
YEEEEESH!!!!!!
Sufi Baha'i
Akamai University seems to be a ckone of Greenwich University, which
was in Hilo and then move to another pacific island (Norfolk),
creating a stir in Australia Academe and forcing a rewrite of
AUstralian law, and then came "home" to Hilo to die.
quan...@hotmail.com (quan...@hotmail.com) wrote in message=20
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> auntiemaria <aun...@mele.com> wrote in message
> news:<1092435...@news.lava.net>...
>> Sufi Baha'i wrote:
>>> Is Akamai University in Hilo real or just a degree mill?
>>>
>>
Sue Larkin
In article <1092644...@news.lava.net>, moan...@yahoo.com (Peter
Forster) wrote:
[...]
> I also met a friend from UHH recently who wants a house in Hilo
> looking after next summer. Whoo hoo!
Whoo hoo, indeed! I leave Makaha to house sit in town!!! In return, I
have mainland friends who house sit my place in Makaha when I'm house
sitting in town. It's a win-win-win situation!!!
Kimo
sorry; didn't proofread!
corrected:
Judy <homehu...@netscape.net>
>
> Kimo, I can't remember if that particular story mentioned it or not, but
> Serge King's deal, before he discovered the ancient secrets of "Huna,"
> was being a haole African and then Native American shaman. Whatever
> sells, yeah?
like a carpetbagger/ snake oil salesman being chased from town to
town!
Hawaii mag, I don't think would mention that... it would reduce his
credibility within the article...
(although to the proletariat, who knows, might expand it!)
>
> If you've never seen King's cable TV program, you really ought to try to
> catch it. All you need is once.
I have and that once was one time too many!
>I caught it one time when he was telling
> the (all haole) audience that the way to keep Hawaii and "Huna" in their
> hearts is to take some object...any object...a rock or a key ring from
> Long's (made in Taiwan?)...home and keep it where you can see and touch
> it on a daily basis.
And the audience is gazing at him with hypnotized, glazed over ocular
orbs, mumbling, "oh, yesssss, great Muktananda, I mean Raj Neesh, I
mean liz claire prophet... uh, wait... who are we deifying this
month!? "
> My favorite aspect of the "religion" is that these ancient "secrets"
> previously shared only with those deemed worthy, usually a family
> member, are now available for all to share...for a price! How Hawaiian
> is THAT?
>
> YEEEEESH!!!!!!
I would love to be among this audience sometime, and do the
"hackbusht!" cough!
and have it televised!
quan...@hotmail.com
pe...@capebyron.com (Sufi Baha'i) wrote in message
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> Akamai University seems to be a ckone of Greenwich University, which
> was in Hilo and then move to another pacific island (Norfolk),
> creating a stir in Australia Academe and forcing a rewrite of
> AUstralian law, and then came "home" to Hilo to die.
>
Maybe they came to hasten it given Hawaii's Dr. Kervorkian business
income tax. They could be losing money on every sale of their
"diplomas" from day 1 and would still owe general excise tax to the
state.
Ryan Kawailani Ozawa
Akamai University. Hilarious. The thing is, "Akamai" sounds just
exotic and yet serious enough - but not as cheesy as, say, "Aloha
University" - to convince some folks. After all, isn't one of the
biggest tech companies out there named Akamai?
Fact of the matter is, Hawaii was a veritable haven of diploma mills.
I think at one point we had more fake universities than any other
state, simply because our laws weren't written strictly enough to keep
any Tom, Dick or Kimo from getting a P.O. Box and start handing out
MAs.
=46rom 2000:
State dominates the $200 million quick-degree industry
http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2000/05/29/focus1.html
=46rom this year:
State, federal officials aim legal guns at diploma mills
http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2004/05/17/focus4.html
Entertainingly enough, there are mid- to high-level public officials
across the country that have been found with diploma mill degrees on
their resumes. Meanwhile, some legitimate, if alternative, academic
institutions meanwhile are often finding themselves unfairly grouped
in the "diploma mill" category.
Ryan
HawaiiThreads.com - Let's talk story.
http://www.hawaiithreads.com
Kimo
hawaii...@yahoo.com (Ryan Kawailani Ozawa) wrote in message
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> Akamai University. Hilarious. The thing is, "Akamai" sounds just
> exotic and yet serious enough -
I dunno.
sonds like something they dreamed up in hawaii 5-0.
Danno, get me the records of all attendees of akamai univ in 69.
and go by Aloha Cleaners and pick up my suit.
DOUGLAS CAPOGROSSI
Dear Friends,
It is true...the quality of our institution has not yet been assessed by a
national or regional accrediting body in the USA, nevertheless, it does not
mean Akamai University operates substandard programs with untrained and
untested faculty.
See for yourself.
Currently, we have free short courses available for Hawaii residents. I
invite each of you to participate and judge for yourself, first hand.
We would be interested in exploring the details of your concerns and your
understandings. My senior administrators and faculty stand ready to
correspond.
A few years ago, I was party to structuring a bill that became law [HRS
446E] that now governs unaccredited degree granting institutions in the
State of Hawaii. It was my scripting of the following disclaimer that has
permitted the Hawaii DCCA Office of Consumer Protection to close down many
of the degree mills in Hawaii. Much more work needs to be done in order to
establish a state approving agency. For the moment, this is all that we
have to work with.
(Name of Degree Granting Institution) IS NOT ACCREDITED BY AN ACCREDITING
AGENCY
RECOGNIZED BY THE UNITED STATES SECRETARY OF EDUCATION
Note: In the United States, many licensing authorities require accredited
degrees as the basis for eligibility for licensing. In some cases,
accredited colleges may not accept for transfer courses and degrees
completed at unaccredited colleges, and some employers may require an
accredited degree as a basis for eligibility for employment.
It is true that Hawaii and a few other states lack state approving agencies
for private colleges and those states have been safe haven for countless
fraudulent degree mills. The AU community wants them out as badly as you
do...but do we want to slam the door in the face of worthy start-up
colleges?
When I was reading through your treads on the discussion group, I understood
your feelings, but I was somewhat saddened by the way judgments were being
made. I have sent each of you an email communication, offering you the
opportunity to write to me and my colleagues, to learn of the sincerity and
the quality of our efforts. We are a young institution and we could benefit
from your sincere commentary.
We intend to do all things right and ultimately provide East Hawaii with its
own fully accredited distance learning institution. We understand that at
times, without rhyme or reason, there are groups of individuals that will
work against new institutions and new concepts, no matter how sincere the
intentions. You do not appear to be that kind of group... If you are
genuine in your concern for the quality of our degrees, I invite you to
examine us up close and personal.
With the help of my faculty colleagues I was fortunate to have a scholarly
article published in the Journal of Higher Education in Europe this past
year related to the Assurance of Academic Excellence among Nontraditional
Universities. I would be pleased to share this article with you, if you
have interest.
Kind regards,
Douglass Capogrossi, Ph.D.
President
Akamai University
193 Kino`ole Street, Hilo, HI 96720 USA
Tel/Fax: 1 (808) 934-7693
dcapo...@akamaiuniversity.us
http://www.akamaiuniversity.us
.Akamai...for the betterment of the human condition.
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