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Steven Sajous

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Mar 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/19/96
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WhBertholet Fils-Aime wrote:
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> Haiti is not any better than it was a decade ago. I grew up there and I
> have followed closely the evolution of the situation which has deterioted
> considerably since 1986. I was in Haiti last December, and it made me mad to
> see the slow death that the country is going through. All that is the result
> of a bunch of people who don't give a f**k about their country and who are
> trying to become rich by taking all kind of actions and decisions against
> and behind the back of the poor.
> In the long history of the country, there had never been any question nor
> pressure on the government to privatize its state owned industries.However,
> Since October 1994, the United States, the International Monetary Fund, the
> World Bank, and several other capitalist countries have been pressuring us
> on taking a stand for this method of "the rich get richer and the poor get
> poorer." Let's seriously think about it. Previously, dictators and murderers
> like the Duvaliers, Henry Namphy, Prosper Avril, etc. were able to get help
> from various nations without having to sell the country's state owned
> intitutions.The money they had gotten from the International Community did
> not help the country in any way. Jean-Claude Duvalier left in 1986 with over
> $900 million. Namphy, Regala, Avril, ect (the list is too long) had built
> also their own personal fortune. Let's think smart now. The US in particular
> and the rest of the rich countries in the world in general did not stop
> 'helping' Haiti because they fear that political leaders will only think in
> filling up their pocket, but because they saw the emergence of a few
> credidle individuals such as Aristide (a few others) who would work towards
> progrees rather than stealing, deteriorating and murdering.
> In fact, this is a plot by the International Community to kill our country.
> The situation cannot be any better.
>
> --
> *******************************************************************************
>
> Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
> None but ourselves can free our minds

While I do agree with you that there is something to be said about the
pressures that are put on the government I also have to disagree with
about the privatization issue.

The "electricite d'Haiti", "TELECO", Ciment D'Haiti" etc are running
deficits. In the case of Ciment D'Haiti I do not think it is even
operational anymore. As it is right now we do not see any benefits from
the moneys paid to or raised by TELECO for example. Yet the service
SUCKS!!! with capital S. When you pick up a phone in Haiti you do so
with the presumption that you are not going to get a dial-tone.

Having said that, I would rather pay money to one of the American Bell
companies that would take over, and have the assurance that i will get a
dial-tone. In December i was in Haiti, I called my home on a portable
phone, form my living-room, IT GAVE ME A BUSY SIGNAL!!! There was no one
on the phone.

The only reason why law makers in Haiti are crying about the idea of
privatizing these so called state institutions, is because not unlike
the years of Jean-Claude Duvalier and Michelle Bennet, every Monday
there are check that come form these different institutions and are
deposited directly into the accounts of ministers and elected officials.

Haiti has never benefited from the profits of its state institutions,
they have been, are, and will continue to be robbed by government
officials. plus they do not work. There is no electricity and the phones
work whenever you do not really need them. Let us stop blaming the
oppressors and stop shooting our mouths for the hell of it... Sell, sell
sell.

We will not profit from a financial stand, but at least we will get the
service we paid for.


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Bertholet Fils-Aime

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Mar 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/19/96
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Haiti is not any better than it was a decade ago. I grew up there and I
have followed closely the evolution of the situation which has deterioted
considerably since 1986. I was in Haiti last December, and it made me mad to
see the slow death that the country is going through. All that is the result
of a bunch of people who don't give a f**k about their country and who are
trying to become rich by taking all kind of actions and decisions against
and behind the back of the poor.
In the long history of the country, there had never been any question nor
pressure on the government to privatize its state owned industries.However,
Since October 1994, the United States, the International Monetary Fund, the
World Bank, and several other capitalist countries have been pressuring us
on taking a stand for this method of "the rich get richer and the poor get
poorer." Let's seriously think about it. Previously, dictators and murderers
like the Duvaliers, Henry Namphy, Prosper Avril, etc. were able to get help
from various nations without having to sell the country's state owned
intitutions.The money they had gotten from the International Community did
not help the country in any way. Jean-Claude Duvalier left in 1986 with over
$900 million. Namphy, Regala, Avril, ect (the list is too long) had built
also their own personal fortune. Let's think smart now. The US in particular
and the rest of the rich countries in the world in general did not stop
'helping' Haiti because they fear that political leaders will only think in
filling up their pocket, but because they saw the emergence of a few
credidle individuals such as Aristide (a few others) who would work towards
progrees rather than stealing, deterioting and murdering.

Aly Laurent

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Mar 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/25/96
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In article 314F19...@erols.com Steven Sajous wrote:
[... a bunch of interesting stuff, some deleted, then concluded]:
>...privatizing these so called state institutions, is because not unlike

>the years of Jean-Claude Duvalier and Michelle Bennet, every Monday
>there are check that come form these different institutions and are
>deposited directly into the accounts of ministers and elected officials.

>Haiti has never benefited from the profits of its state institutions,
>they have been, are, and will continue to be robbed by government
>officials. plus they do not work. There is no electricity and the phones
>work whenever you do not really need them. Let us stop blaming the
>oppressors and stop shooting our mouths for the hell of it... Sell, sell
>sell.

Aaahhhh! A breath of fresh air in this sea of madness!
Everything I always wanted to say, but always lacked the eloquence.

Thanks Steven.

Aly


Aly Laurent

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Mar 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/25/96
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In article 1996Mar19.1...@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Bertholet Fils
wrote:
[.... a bunch of stuff extolling the virtues of Aristide, then said]:

>Let's think smart now. The US in particular
>and the rest of the rich countries in the world in general did not stop
>'helping' Haiti because they fear that political leaders will only think in
>filling up their pocket, but because they saw the emergence of a few
>credidle individuals such as Aristide (a few others) who would work towards
>progrees rather than stealing, deterioting and murdering.

Credible individuals and Aristide in the same sentence? Have you been
drinking? You need to stay off that stuff...

>In fact, this is a plot by the International Community to kill our country.
>The situation cannot be any better.

The International Community has no interest in killing Haiti. Haiti is doing
a great job in killing herself, thanks to our pseudo-leaders. You say the
situation cannot get any better, let's go through a bit of analysis:

1- Has the level of unemployment gone down?
2- Has our infra-structure improved any?
3- Would there be a modicum of security without the U.N forces?
4- Does mob justice still exist?
5- Is the country any cleaner?

The list of questions is endless, but you get my drift...

I know the answer to all of them, do you?

Aly "The more things change, the more they remain the same." Laurent


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