THE MODERN GREEKS ARE NOT WHITE!!!!!
Maximinus Thrax
THEY ARE WHITE THEN SO ARE THE ARABS TURKS AND EGYPTIANS!!! HOW COME SO
MANY TRUE WHITES WANT TO CALL THIS DARK MONGREL RACE A WHITE RACE???
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHITE ABOUT THEM!! EVEN THERE FACIAL
FEATURES ARE NON-WHITE!!! WHAT TRUE WHITES NEED TO REALIZE IS THAT
TODAYS GREEKS ARE NOT THE DESCENDANTS OF THE CLASSICAL GREEKS BUT ARE
THE OFFSPRING OF THE INVADING SLAVS MOORS TURKS AND SEMITES!!!! THE
MODERN GREEKS ANCESTORS (SLAVS SEMITES) EXTERMINATED THE ORIGINAL BLOND
NORDIC ELITE OF HELLAS AND AS A RESULT TURNED GREECE INTO A THIRD WORLD
COUNTRY!!!! NO LONGER IS GREECE THE CENTER OF EUROPEAN CIVILIZATION AND
THOUGHT. THE REASON FOR THIS IS OBVIOUS; GREECE IS NO LONGER INHABITED
BY WHITES BUT BY INFERIOR COLOUREDS!! THESE MODERN "GREEKS" WHO HAVE
BEEN PASSING THEMSELVES OFF AS TRUE HELLENES AND CLAIMING THAT THEY ARE
WHITE ARE NOT I REPEAT NOT WHITE PEOPLE!!!!
EA
Dear Sir,
I have a few minor comments to your highly intelligent post.
Maximin...@webtv.net (Maximinus Thrax) typed in <10843-3A75D91C-
3...@storefull-158.iap.bryant.webtv.net>:
>THE MODERN GREEKS ARE AS DARK AS MEXICANS AND HAVE ARAB FACES!!!!
I'm afraid I cannot reply to this because I'm not sure exactly how dark
Mexicans are. Could you explain? If you are familiar with the fine art of
photography, for example, could you tell us at what zone would you place a
B&W photo of a mexican?
>IF
>THEY ARE WHITE THEN SO ARE THE ARABS TURKS AND EGYPTIANS!!!
Indeed they are. There are three races: caucasian, mongoloid, and negroid.
Very few modern Turks possess the Mongolic features of the original
Ottomans, so the above people are all Caucasian.
>HOW COME SO
>MANY TRUE WHITES WANT TO CALL THIS DARK MONGREL RACE A WHITE RACE???
I'm afraid I have never seen a person who is "true white" with the
exception of a few "living dead" in some old vampire movies. Are you
saying that vampires claim that these people are white? Interesting theory
indeed....
>THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHITE ABOUT THEM!! EVEN THERE FACIAL
>FEATURES ARE NON-WHITE!!!
Even...where???
>WHAT TRUE WHITES NEED TO REALIZE IS THAT
>TODAYS GREEKS ARE NOT THE DESCENDANTS OF THE CLASSICAL GREEKS BUT ARE
>THE OFFSPRING OF THE INVADING SLAVS MOORS TURKS AND SEMITES!!!! THE
>MODERN GREEKS ANCESTORS (SLAVS SEMITES) EXTERMINATED THE ORIGINAL BLOND
>NORDIC ELITE OF HELLAS AND AS A RESULT TURNED GREECE INTO A THIRD WORLD
>COUNTRY!!!!
But most slavs are blonds. And they were much closer to being Nordic than
the ancient Greeks were...
>NO LONGER IS GREECE THE CENTER OF EUROPEAN CIVILIZATION AND
>THOUGHT. THE REASON FOR THIS IS OBVIOUS; GREECE IS NO LONGER INHABITED
>BY WHITES BUT BY INFERIOR COLOUREDS!! THESE MODERN "GREEKS" WHO HAVE
>BEEN PASSING THEMSELVES OFF AS TRUE HELLENES AND CLAIMING THAT THEY ARE
>WHITE ARE NOT I REPEAT NOT WHITE PEOPLE!!!!
>
Again, I have neve seen a "true white" person. That's fortunate because
such color would suggest some very serious health problems.....
Manos
DORIANGR
GREEKS ARE WHITE ALPINE PEOPLE!!!!!
Read what Dr Carelton Coon has to say about ancient and modern Greeks
and you will see that your afro-Greek theories do not apply.The Greeks were and
are a caucasian white people mostly of Alpine-Mediteranean stock with a small
nordic element no black African element existed in the ancient Greek or existed
in the modern Greek racial makeup...
(Chapter XII, section 14)
The Races of Europe Dr Carleton Coon!!!!
The Greeks
The title of this section is The Greeks, and not Greece, since from the
mythical days of the Argonauts to the present, neither the peninsula of Hellas
nor Ionia and the Aegean Islands have been large enough to hold the
far-wandering Hellenes. Greek is a language and a civilization, the Greeks a
people; the Greeks are the descendants of all the peoples who have adopted and
retained that language and that
civilization from classical times to the present. Some of these converts to
Hellenicism were inhabitants of Asia Minor, others of Thrace and Byzantium,
others of the lands bordering the Black Sea, especially the Crimea.--WHERE DO
YOU SEE THE BLACK AFRICAN COMPONENT!!!!!! ---AS I POINTED OUT THE GREEK SLAVE
AND
FOREIGN POPULATION WAS FROM THRACE ,CRIMEA - SYTHIA
AND ASIA MINOR WHERE ARE ALL THOSERS AFRICAN AND EYGPTIAN SLAVES?
Into the peninsula of Greece itself, many thousands of Slavs wandered as
immigrants during the maximum South Slavic expansion;I MENTIONED THE SLAVIC
FACTOR IN MY OTHER POSTS the Turks brought colonists, including many
Albanians,YOU SAID BLACK AFRICANS WERE BROUGHT
IN I ALSO MENTIONED ALBANIANS IN MY POSTS and whole districts of Boeotia and
Attica and of other parts of Greece are today Albanian speaking.
Romance-speaking shepherds, the Vlachs,AGAIN NO AFRICAN FACTOR THESE PEOPLE ARE
LATINS FROM ROMAN LEGIONS!! have also made the slopes of the Pindus their
seasonal pastures. Since the World War many of the Greeks living
in Thrace and Asia Minor have been sent to Greek soil to live, while Turks and
other Moslems have been in turn repatriated.THE TURKISH POPULATION OF GREECE IS
NEGLIABLE!! Despite these attempts at producing ethnic order, much Greek
territory, especially in Macedonia, remains ethnically heterogeneous.
Furthermore, the number of Greeks who live abroad, be it in Egypt, East Africa,
or in the New World, is so great that the Greeks are still almost an
international people. Many of the Greeks leave home to make their fortunes on
less stony soil, but many of them also return.GREEKS HAVE SETTLED IN THESE
PLACES DOES NOT MENTION THOSE POPULATIONS SETTLING IN GREECE!!!
It is inaccurate to say that the modern Greeks are different physically from
the ancient Greeks; such a statement is based on an ignorance of the Greek
ethnic character.-OBVIOUSLY THIS PROVES YOUR THEORY WRONG!!! In classical times
the Greeks included many kinds of people living in different places, as they do
today. If one refers to the inhabitants of Attica during the sixth century, or
to the Spartans of Leonidas, then the changes in these localities have probably
not been nearly as great as that between the Germans of Tacitus and the living
South Germans, to cite but a single example.MANY AREAS OF GREECE WHERE
UNAFFECTED BY BY FOREIGN POPULATIONSSO YOUR THEORY IS WAY OFF.
Within the peninsula of Hellas, despite the mobility of the Greeks to and from
their country, the internal mobility has not been sufficient to break down
strong local differentiations in head form. The Epirotes, like their neighbors
the Toscs, have an extremely high cephalic index mean, 88, and there seems to
be a strongly brachycephalic zone running down the western slopes of the
mountain core from
Albania to the Gulf of Corinth, and perhaps beyond. [130] It is an extension of
the same zone which extends all the way from the Alpine racial center in
France, and more specifically, of the population studied in the region of
Gjinokaster in southernmost Albania.IS THE ALPINE RACE WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN
STRONG IN GREECE SINCE ANCIENT DAYS AFRICAN OR MIDDLEASTERN?THE ALPINE RACE
ORIGINATED IN EUROPE . The
Greeks of Macedonia, again, who live in settlements interspersed with those of
Bulgars and of Turks, possess the usual West Balkan brachycephaly, with mean
cephalic indices of 86 for Christians, and 84.6 for Moslems. Greeks from the
northern shore of Asia Minor have a mean of 87, while those from the Black Sea
coast in Rumania, and members of the colony in the Crimea, are low
brachycephals, with a mean of 82.
In Greece itself, most of the Peloponnesus, Attica, Euboea, and the Ionian
Isles are characterized by a mean cephalic index of 81 to 82; this is also true
of the Greeks who are found abroad, as in America. Aside from local groups in
regions which, in classical times, were not truly Greece, the modern Greeks are
for the most part low brachycephals. In Thessaly a provincial mean of 77 has
been reported; and Greeks from the shore of the Sea of Marmora
have a mean of 79. There are still, therefore, local groups of Greeks who are
largely long-headed.
The stature mean for Greeks in general runs about 167 cm., and there seems to
be little regional variation; those in Asia Minor and in the Crimea are a
millimeter shorter, those measured in Boston a millimeter taller. The Greeks
are as tall as most South Germans or northern Frenchmen;--ARE THESE PEOPLE
AFRICANS? their stature is too elevated for the prevalence, in partial
brachycephalization, of a strong, small Mediterranean strain. About half of
them have brunet-white or light brown skin color, the rest the usual
pinkish-white of central and northern Europe;--WHERE IS THE AFRO ELEMENT?--
over 80 per cent have dark brown hair, the rest have hair evenly divided
between black and the lighter shades of
brown. Pronounced blondism, although rare, is not unknown. The beard is rarely
lighter than the head hair, in contrast to the condition found among Ghegs and
Montenegrins; the implication is that the dark brown hair of the majority of
Greeks is a pure brunet condition. Over 65 pa-cent of Greeks have pure brown
eyes, and most of these are dark brown: pure lights are sporadic, but there is
a 15 per cent incidence of light-mixed iris forms.
The pigment ratios given above apply to Greeks as a whole; there is evidence,
however, of considerable regional variation. The Macedonian Greeks are much
lighter, especially those that are Moslem, while the Greeks of the lonian
islands are darker, as are, in all probability, most Peloponnesians.
For a more detailed study of the Greeks, we may examine the series measured in
Boston, which, although without doubt subjected to selective forces, does not
seem too much at variance from native Greek sample for our purposes. The men
measured came from all parts of Greece, and from Asia Minor. Their mean
stature, 168 cm., is moderately tall; their bodily proportions are for the most
part intermediate; the shoulders arc broad, the trunk length
moderate, as shown by a relative sitting height of 52.9; the relative span is
104.
One special group, the Sphakiots, living near the western end of the south side
of the island, differ from the other Cretans in a number of characters; they
are very tall, with a mean stature of 175 cm., and meso- to sub-brachycephalic,
with a mean cephalic index of 81.6. They have especially large heads, with a
mean length of 191 mm. and breadth ci 155 mm.; their faces are longer than the
others, and equally broad or broader. Morphologically Dinaric
types are common among them; they may be compared with Montenegrins and the
northernmost Ghegs. According to the general assumption of authorities on
Crete, the Sphakioti are the partial descendants of the Dorians who invaded the
island at the end of the Minoan period. That some of them do resemble the
traditional Spartan type is very likely. One can only derive them from the
north, from the region in which the larger branch of the Dinaric race was
formed.THE SPARTANS TO ARE AFRO-SEMEITIC CORRECT?
The living Cretans are for the most part Atlanto-Mediterraneans, and there has
been no post-Dorian migration into the island which could have brought such a
type in large numbers.WHERE ARE ALL THESE DIFFERENT AFRO_MIDDLEASTERN RACES
THAT YOU TALK ABOUT? DORIANS(THE MAJOR ANCIENT GREEK TRIBE)--CONCLUSION THE
BLOOD OF THE DORIAN TRIBES STILL EXISTS THERE-< The
only logical explanation of its presence in Crete, formed on the basis of
available data, is that some this element existed in Crete in Minoan, probably
for the most part Middle and Late Minoan, times; that migrations from the Greek
mainland at the time of the Minoan collapse may have brought more.
The fact that a larger number of Cretans are blond than is the case with Greeks
is a matter that requires ample data and some analysis to explain. One may
attribute much of the blondism, perhaps, to the invasion that brought the
Sphakiots, while some of it must be inherent in the Atlanto-Mediterranean race.
But the arrival of the early Greek-speakers may have brought blondism other
than that borne by the brachycephals, and Crete is an island; it is a
principle of insular anthropology, well borne out by the British Isles, that
when a numerous group invades an island it has a better chance for survival
than in a continental area where there is a nearby mountainous or
forest-covered hinterland, to which earlier types may retreat and from which
they may reėmerge.
The important discovery about Crete, however, is the fact that its population
is mostly Atlanto-Mediterranean; this race seems to be almost equally important
in most of Greece. It has also appeared in the Dinaric area, and in Serbia; we
shall see more of it in the eastern Balkans.---SERBIANS- HUMMM
ARE THEY AFRICAN TO?
ANYONE WITH A LOGICAL MIND WOULD CONCLUDE THE FOLLOWING FROM THE ANTROPOLOGICAL
EVIDENCE PRESNTED.MODERN GREEKS =DECENDENTS OF THE ORIGINAL GREEK TRIBES, AND
THE EARLY MEDITERANEAN WHITE PRE_GREEK PEOPLES MIXED WITH MOSTLY THRACIAN AND
SYTHIAN STOCK(SYTHIANS WERE NORDIC WITH PERHAPS A SMALL ASIAN MONGOLOID STRAIN)
AND INDO EUROPEAN PEOPLES FROM ASIA MINOR IN ANCIENT TOMES ALONG WITH SLAVIC
AND ALBANIAN IMIGRANTS FROM BYZANTINE AND OTTOMAN PERIODS.
Notes:
Their heads, with a mean cephalic index of 82, are long for brachycephals (189
mm.), and of moderate breadth (154 mm.) ...[Message truncated]
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DORIANGR
HEY PAL THE SEMITES NOR MOORS EVERY INVADED GREECE!!!!!! GREECE WAS INVADED
FROM THE NORTH FRANKS,VENETIANS,KELTS,SLAVS ECT or FROM THE EAST TURKEY!!!!!
PICK UP A HISTORY BOOK !!!!!!!
Maximinus Thrax
WERE A WHITE PEOPLE!!!!! OSMAN KAHN HAD BLUE EYES AND BROWN HAIR AS WELL
AS HIS SON ORKAN GAZI!!! MANY OTHER SULTANS WERE DESCRIBED AS HAVING
REDDISH WHITE SKINS AND BLUE EYES!!! THE FOUNDER OF MODERN TURKEY KEMAL
ATTATURK WHO HAD RED HAIR BLUE EYES AND A VERY WHITE SKIN WAS PROBABLY A
DESCENDENT OF THE WHITE UPPERCLASSES OF OTTOMAN!!! THE SLAVS WHO ARE AN
ASIATIC PEOPLE WERE NOT BLOND!!! APPARENTLY YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO
ALBANIA OR YUGOSLAVIA. FOR IF YOU HAD YOU WOULD KNOW THAT BLONDISM IS
RARE AMONG THESE PEOPLES WHO ARE PURE SLAVS!!!!! REGARDING THE ANCIENT
GREEKS THE ELITE WERE A NORDIC PEOPLE WHO RULED OVER THE DARK SKINNED
ABORIGINALS OF GREECE!!! THIS IS WHY IN GREEK LITERATURE THE GREEK
HEROES ACHILLES AND MENELAUS WERE PORTRAYED AS BLOND BLUE EYED AND
WHITE SKINNED WHILE THEIR SLAVES WERE DARK HAIRED AND DARK SKINNED!!!!
FURTHERMORE ADAMANTIOS A JEWISH HISTORIAN OF THE FOURTH CENTURY SAID
THAT THE TRUE GREEKS WERE WHITE SKINNED BLOND HAIRED AND FAIR EYED!!!!!
EA
3...@storefull-156.iap.bryant.webtv.net>:
True Greeks are not vampires! I already explained to you that the only
white skinned people I have seen are the "living dead" in old B&W movies!
Manos
DORIANGR
Are these Greek people white ? The are the whitest colored people I have ever
see.
http://www.angelfire.com/ne/jenniferanniston/jennifer.html
http://www.ariannaonline.com/biography.html
www.rollingstone.com/AlexiLalas
http://www.geocities.com/racial_myths/greeks.html
MYTH # 7:
GREEKS ARE NO LONGER INDO-EUROPEAN
Despite what white supremacists like Arthur Kemp say about the supposed
“mongrelization” of the Greeks over the centuries since the decline of
their civilzation, the racial history of Greece is typical of that of Southern
Europe (see Italians), and therefore, as we saw in Myth # 1, not so different
from that of certain parts of Northern Europe as well, with the Minoans its
famous native Mediterranean group, Indo-European invaders that include the
Achaeans, Ionians, Dorians, Aeolians, Romans, Visigoths, Normans and Slavs, and
a Turkish rather than Moorish influence.
There’s no evidence that blacks were at all present in Ancient Greece, or
that any significant number of slaves were acquired in North Africa and the
Middle-East, much less that they intermarried with native Greek populations.
Here’s a description of modern Greeks from Carleton Stevens Coon’s Races of
Europe, Chapter XII, Section 14, The Greeks :
It is inaccurate to say that the modern Greeks are different physically from
the ancient Greeks; such a statement is based on an ignorance of the Greek
ethnic character.... The Greeks, in short, are a blend of racial types, of
which two are most important: the Atlanto-Mediterranean and the Alpine.
Dinaricism here is present, but not all pervading; true Alpines are commoner
than complete Dinarics. The Nordic element is weak, as it probably has been
since the days of Homer. The racial type to which Socrates belonged is today
the most important, while the Atlanto-Mediterranean, prominent in Greece since
the Bronze Age, is still a major factor. It is my personal reaction to the
living Greeks that their continuity with their ancestors of the ancient world
is remarkable, rather than the opposite. [Note: I’m not sure I accept all of
these imperceptibly specific racial designations, but Atlanto-Mediterranean is
supposed to be a type of Mediterranean, and Dinarics are closely related to
Alpines]
There isn’t much else to say about it. The best evidence I can provide are
the following photos of all of the Greek and Greek-American personalities I can
think of (that means a random sample). They are, like all Southern Europeans,
predominantly Alpine, with strong Nordic and Mediterranean
miracleu...@gmail.com
I highly disagree with you, Sir.
I don't know history but I am Greek. Greece has all shades of white and different features. I will agree with you that some look like Arabs But not all. In my family, we are pale white, long nose and brown hair. I have many friends who are all blond and different color of eyes. So please Go to Greece and see the Diversity of color and features before you say things you are not sure of.
Thank you.
asteri...@gmail.com
dalin...@gmail.com
Sam
> Modern Greek are ancient minoans that lived Crete island .. The Minoans where originally from Anatolia . But a volcano broke out and they made it to mainland Greek .. the real ancient gods were Albanian Ancient Greek language was Albanian
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