Is there an ATENEAN out there?
mark allan co
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mar...@ucrengr.ucr.edu (mark allan co) writes:
> Looking for anyone there who is one. Feeling all alone here.
>
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Natataranta na tuloy si Mama! Diyos ko day, Ahtenista ka nga, barkadahan
forever ano? Kahit na nasa UC Riverside ka eh mga Atenista pa renne ang habol
mo ..... SUSKO!
Diyosmedida Hijo, I'm three years your senior and can I tell you something
dharling? The world is bigger than the ATENEO.(Kung nga Kamuning eh mas
malaki sa Ateneo, eh.) Fero don't worry, I didn't mean to scare you ....
naghanap lang naman ako ng mapag-tri-tripan in favlik. Alam mo naman ako,
may pagka Atenista denne ng kaunti. Siyempre, ako'y isang Blue Eagle the Queen.
Vavu ...... Mhike
Ninoy's Godson
of TV-Patrol on Chan.26 here in the Bay Area, Ca. about a highly
publicized case of murder/homicide of a neophyte (named Lenny) due
to severe hazing by members of the AQUILA LEGIS fraternity.
The defendants or hazers involved, after appearing in court, vehemetly
denied any wrongdoing. This after several other neophytes being
initiated with Lenny had testified under oath of how Lenny was singled
out as the "valedictorian" of the bunch being hazed. A "valedictorian"
is chosen to be the neophyte in the group who withstood more punishment
than others.
After the preliminary hearing (indictment?), the defendants gathered
outside the courthouse and co-mingled together and in a earful, have
declared unity and silence without remorse or guilt.
Should this really happen? I feel for the mother of Lenny who was
shown understandably in gloom spirits but most of all in puzzlement
of how/why her son dies by a broken spine, severe hematoma in various
parts of the body and eventually a cardiac arrest only for wishes of
joining a group for brotherly love and oneness with other "special"
people.
Let us pray for Lenny.
Jorge
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Gilbert Villaroman
Mark,
Hey there! I just wanted to let you know that you're not alone in
this foreign land. I'm also an Atenean too. Well, if you have time
do drop in some time and write. There's actually a lot of Ateneans
over here in Northern Califonia and also down there in your area.
Well, I can't stay too long. Just drop in when you have time.
Ingat pare--Fly High!
Gilby
GILBERT J. VILLAROMAN
Stanford University Medical Center
Laboratory of Cytopathology
"Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam"
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rcag...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
Pare ko,
You're not alone, there's a lot of Ateneans in the net
kaya "hindi ka nag-iisa". I'll send you a list of all
the ATENEANS in the US and Canada, okay? Anyways, my
name's Rommel Agsulid, BS ME '91. How about you?
See you later,
Rommel
By the way, Maligayang Pasko !!!
Horacio Cadiz
>Should this really happen? I feel for the mother of Lenny who was
>shown understandably in gloom spirits but most of all in puzzlement
>of how/why her son dies by a broken spine, severe hematoma in various
>parts of the body and eventually a cardiac arrest only for wishes of
>joining a group for brotherly love and oneness with other "special"
>people.
Although I don't condone any form of physical torture masquerading as
an initiation, I submit that the neophytes who join fraternities such as
Aquila Legis had full knowledge that they would be physically abused.
Of course, no one goes into an initiation thinking that they would
be killed. They have, however, full knowledge that they would be
physically harmed.
I say that anyone who joins such fraternities deserve the beating they
get. Perhaps the blows would jar some sense into their heads. The
hazers, on the other hand, deserve the punishment meted out to them.
The best form of hazing would be to let each participant beat each other's
brains out. That way, everyone deserves what they get.
>Let us pray for Lenny.
Yes.
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erl...@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
> Looking for anyone there who is one. Feeling all alone here.
>
Hey, I can relate to those sentiments. I'm supposed to be from batch '90, but I
marched with your batch in '91. Do write some more. It is so nice to indulge in
nostalgia.
Dindyn
She is using my account; but I am also an ATENEAN.
Ernie
kamagong!
> > Looking for anyone there who is one. Feeling all alone here.
> > >
> Hey, I can relate to those sentiments. I'm supposed to be from batch '90, but I> marched with your batch in '91. Do write some more. It is so nice to indulge in nostalgia.
Alam mo Hijo, pang-ilan ka ng kunehong nananawagan ng mga pellow
Ahtenista....
Natataranta na tuloy si Mama! Diyos ko day, Ahtenista ka nga, barkadahan
forever ano? Kahit na nasa UC Riverside ka eh mga Atenista pa renne ang
habol
mo ..... SUSKO!
Diyosmedida Hijo, I'm three years your senior and can I tell you something
dharling? The world is bigger than the ATENEO.(Kung nga Kamuning eh mas
malaki sa Ateneo, eh.) Fero don't worry, I didn't mean to scare you ....
naghanap lang naman ako ng mapag-tri-tripan in favlik. Alam mo naman ako,
may pagka Atenista denne ng kaunti. Siyempre, ako'y isang Blue Eagle the
Queen.
Vavu ...... Mhike
Kayo talgang mga bingi, hindi ba ninyo naintindihan ang mga wika ni Mhike!
Tapos na ang pagiging atenista! Gumising na kayo! Kayo'y nasa amerika na
at wala ng pakelam ang mga tao kung kayo'y galing sa ateneo, UST, o UP at
ano pa. Kasi, handang dito sa amerika ay pinagmamalaki pa rin ninyo ang
pigiging atenista. Ay naku...
Sabi nga ng isa kung atenistang kaibigan,
"Ateneans are just of bunch of clowns playing on a hill, not knowing what's
going below the clouds..."
MSA...@uga.cc.uga.edu
HF....@forsythe.stanford.edu (Gilbert Villaroman) writes:
>
>
>
>Ingat pare--Fly High!
^^^^^^^^
I used to believe I had wings... but later on in life, I realized I only
had feet. I can only JUMP, climb trees, hike mountains, run ... and walk.
Why the hell did I feel I was flying? I had such an impressionable mind
back then. I had an ego that was highly inflatable, and the
Ateneo had all the free helium to blow it up to the nth degree. I was
flying alright, but not on wings ... just air, air much lighter than
what I'm accustomed to. Thank you, Ateneo, for the experience of flying.
But Ateneo, let me go. I don't want my feet to get atrophied. I want to
JUMP, climb trees, hike mountains, run ... and walk. I value my feet,
and I think I much prefer land over picture perfect cotton clouds.
-Mhike
Horacio Cadiz
>Kayo talgang mga bingi, hindi ba ninyo naintindihan ang mga wika ni Mhike!
>Tapos na ang pagiging atenista! Gumising na kayo! Kayo'y nasa amerika na
>at wala ng pakelam ang mga tao kung kayo'y galing sa ateneo, UST, o UP at
>ano pa. Kasi, handang dito sa amerika ay pinagmamalaki pa rin ninyo ang
>pigiging atenista. Ay naku...
Ipagpaumanhin mo, ngunit mali ang iyong kuru-kuro. Hindi natatapos
ang pagiging pagka-Atenista ng isang Atenista. Gising ako.
Wala akong pakialam kung walang pakialam ang mga tao kung Atenista ako o
hindi. Hindi naman sa ipinagmamalaki ko na nakapagtapos ako sa Ateneo. Hindi
ko lamang ipinagkakaila.
Masaya ako sa karanasan ko sa Ateneo. Ang mga nakaibigan ko
sa Ateneo noong nasa mataas na paaralan ako ay mga kaibigan ko pa rin
hanggang ngayon. Hanggang ngayon ay nakikipag-ugnayan pa rin ako sa ibang
mga pari na sa kabutihang palad ay naging mga guro ko.
Binabalik-balikan ko pa rin ang aking mga natutunan at naranasan sa Ateneo.
Kahit subukin ko man, hindi ko maitatakwil na ang pagkatao ko ay nahubog
sa Ateneo (kahit naisin man ng Ateneo na ipagkaila ito B-)).
Dahil nabanggit mo na rin at ngayong napagisip-isipan ko na, tama
ka pala. Ipinagmamalaki ko nga na Atenista ako. Ipagpaumanhin mo.
Ano nga ba ang mali sa pagmamamalaki ng ibang tao na Atenista sila o galing
sila sa UP, sa UST o sa iba pang paaralan? Ipinagmamalaki ko na Atenista
ako katulad nang pagmamalaki ko na Pilipino ako o Batangueno ako o may
maganda akong kaibak sa puso o na may mabait akong anak. Hindi naman ibig
sabihin nito na sa bawat pagkakaton ay ibinubunyag ko na maganda ang asawa ko,
o Atenista ako, o Batangueno ako, o na mabait ang aking anak. Sa panahong
napapag-usapan kung saan ako nagtapos, nababanggit ko na galing ako
sa Ateneo. Kapag pinag-uusapan ang mga bata, nababanggit ko na mayroon
akong mabait na anak. Kapag pinapansin ang aking singsing, ipinapaalam
ko na may mabait at nakakaunawang akong asawa. Kapag natatanong ako
tungkol sa aking rosaryo, ipinapaalam lo na Katoliko ako. Ano nga ba ang
hindi kanais-nais sa pagmamalaki sa isang magandang karanasan?
Ang tanong ay bakit hindi mo makuhang ipagmalaki ang pinanggalingan mo?
>Sabi nga ng isa kung atenistang kaibigan,
>"Ateneans are just of bunch of clowns playing on a hill, not knowing what's
>going below the clouds..."
I guess that's your friend's problem. He was a clown or only saw
clowns, he only played on the hill, and he thought he was in the clouds
and never got below. Too bad.
MSA...@uga.cc.uga.edu
HF....@forsythe.stanford.edu (Gilbert Villaroman) writes:
>
>Tell me, how long were you in Ateneo anyway. Were you active in any
>of the various activities we had back then. Well, back then and I
>believe until this very day we still have the Ateneo Cathechetical
>Instruction League (a group of volunteers that teach Cathechism to
>public school children), and moreso we have the Tulong Dunong
>Program (a requirement in the high school--we would go out and teach
>various subjects to grade school children in the public
>school--parang tutorial program). Plus there are countless other
>socio-civic oriented groups in the school to help us remember that
>we should not stay on top of that hill they call the Ateneo, but we
>should go down and use our gifts from God to help those who are just
>below that hill.
>
Gilby,
Sa tingin mo ba eh magtatatalak ako kung wala akong alam sa sinasaveh
coh? From FREF to 4th YEAR HS eh doon ako nag-aral. Tandang tanda ko-
Prep Malinis under Ms. Raquel Bautista. Diyos ko 'dang, at itong mga
tinutukoy mong socio-civic groups na sagana sa Ateneo, puwess, from
Grade five to seven (5-Pugad Lawin, 6-Malvar, 7-Xavier) eh miyembro
ako ng Knights of Christ under Mr Beautiful Maymay at Mr Giovanni
Calvo Carvajal. At nang nasa high school naman ako, from 2nd to 4th
year eh miyembro ako ng ACIL. In fact, I was an officer from 3rd to
4th year at ako ang namahala ng mga catechists for Taniong elementary.
At ang sinasaveh mong tulong dunong na iyan, of course, I did that as
well, in fact, many many times, eh nagdobol dobol duty ako dahil
wala masyadong imik ang ka-partner kong si Renato Lopez (sorri Koplas
at na involve ang fangalan mo, don't worry, no grudge against your beauty).
Kung kayat ang experience ko sa pagtuturo sa public school, sakop ang
English at Math. Tandang tanda ko pa, hijo. Si Beautiful Ms. Tadefa pa nga
ang aming tacbuhan sa iskul kung may problema kami sa mga bata.
Siguro overly pessimistic ako kung kayat wala ako masyadong makitang magandang
idinulot nito sa paligid ko. Konti lang ang nakitang kong genuinely concerned
at genuinely WORK-oriented at hindi puro theories. Tama ang sinabi ni
Dean .... hindi lahat ng Atenista eh handang bumaba sa ivory tower na
ilang ulit nang sinasabi (nakakakulili na nga eh). In fact, a lot choose
to be safe and secure in their tower positions. In my observation as an officer
of ACIL for two years (ava! Nasa akin ang listahan ng mga absentees tuwing
activity period, kasama ko pa si Marc Macaventa at si Jun Alejandro sa pag-
gre-grade!), karamihan sa mga miyembro, walang commitment! SAGANA pa ang pa-sip
sipan para makakuha ng "A". Diyos ko! Sa isip-isip ko, nag-ACIL pa kayo!
Plastikan blues lang pala ang mangyayari. Siguro, merong pa-isa isa diyang
truly concerned .... pero ang konti! I-ilan lang ang Manoling Francisco,
Marc Macaventa, Fufu Francisco .... At ay naku, pag nasa ACIL bus na kami,
alam niyo ba ang kadalasang nangyayari? "Wow, p're, saan mo bili yang K-Swiss
mo? .... Magkano na ngayon ang Tag-Heuer? .... Pabili ka nga sa cousin mo ng
Cole Haan, ang mahal sa Greenhills eh...... Pagkatapos ng ACIL, let's go to
Par 42 ....... Kailan ang soiree natin with POVEDA? ......
Wow chong, going down that "hill" nga naman ano? Tandang-tanda ko pa ang
kantang favourite ng class ko at favourite din ng karamihan sa mga ka-batch
kong nag Days with the Lord .... "Bumaba Ka sa Bundok". Diyos ko 'day! Kailan
ito nangyari? O dili kaya'y KANINO ito nangyari? Kung bababa kayo sa bundok,
totohanin niyo naman!
>It takes a lot to be aware of your surroundings, especially when
>you're in a school like the Ateneo, but truly, the school is more
>than just a name--it is an institution. Not many may realize all
>this, but I'm sure many are aware of it. I know a lot may not agree
>to what I have to say or have said, but to understand it is simply
>to be part of that Atenean experience--an experience that is just
>like what the LaSallites also have, or people from UP, UST, etc.
>If there's one thing that Ateneo has taught me, it's that I should
>strive for excellence and try to be the best in everything. This
>has been one aspect that has helped me survive in this foreign land
>they call America.
>
Good for you. Maybe you're one of the handful of lucky strikes the Ateneo
has produced.
>Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we should all be proud to
>come from Ateneo in fact I do agree that we should not make a big
>deal out of it. All I want is that we be given a fair treatment and
>not be generalized.
>
When one actually "experiences" an institution,one can't help but notice
a general air that wafts in its corridors. I am aware that individuals can
be undiscovered gems - but just like gems, in an institution like the Ateneo,
a gem of an individual is hard to come by. Mas marami pa siguro akong
makikitang TOTOONG Tag-Heuer kesa sa TOTOONG TAO.
ing
>Ingat,
>
Seym tu yu!
Mhike
>Gilby
Gilbert Villaroman
Tell me, how long were you in Ateneo anyway. Were you active in any
of the various activities we had back then. Well, back then and I
believe until this very day we still have the Ateneo Cathechetical
Instruction League (a group of volunteers that teach Cathechism to
public school children), and moreso we have the Tulong Dunong
Program (a requirement in the high school--we would go out and teach
various subjects to grade school children in the public
school--parang tutorial program). Plus there are countless other
socio-civic oriented groups in the school to help us remember that
we should not stay on top of that hill they call the Ateneo, but we
should go down and use our gifts from God to help those who are just
below that hill.
It takes a lot to be aware of your surroundings, especially when
you're in a school like the Ateneo, but truly, the school is more
than just a name--it is an institution. Not many may realize all
this, but I'm sure many are aware of it. I know a lot may not agree
to what I have to say or have said, but to understand it is simply
to be part of that Atenean experience--an experience that is just
like what the LaSallites also have, or people from UP, UST, etc.
If there's one thing that Ateneo has taught me, it's that I should
strive for excellence and try to be the best in everything. This
has been one aspect that has helped me survive in this foreign land
they call America.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we should all be proud to
come from Ateneo in fact I do agree that we should not make a big
deal out of it. All I want is that we be given a fair treatment and
not be generalized.
Ingat,
Gilby
Edmund Sta. Maria
>marched with your batch in '91. Do write some more. It is so nice to indulge in
>nostalgia.
>
>Dindyn
Aling Dindyn,
Would you know any Louie Sta. Maria from the same batch?
Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.
>
>of the various activities we had back then. Well, back then and I
>believe until this very day we still have the Ateneo Cathechetical
>Instruction League (a group of volunteers that teach Cathechism to
>public school children), and moreso we have the Tulong Dunong
>Program (a requirement in the high school--we would go out and teach
>various subjects to grade school children in the public
>school--parang tutorial program). Plus there are countless other
>socio-civic oriented groups in the school to help us remember that
>we should not stay on top of that hill they call the Ateneo, but we
>should go down and use our gifts from God to help those who are just
>below that hill.
One gripe I have about Ateneo is that its conscientization of the
students is rather uneven. You stress the socio-civic student groups,
which do indeed help remind us to climb down from the ivory towers.
Sadly though, because these are voluntary groups, most students are
not inclined to join them -- certainly not those who have been living
in ivory towers all their lives.
To be sure, the curriculum itself does much to show Ateneans what the
outside world is like. For that I am glad. Indeed, I believe that
most of the students do emerge with a deeper understanding of what the
real world is like, with all the poverty and suffering that they don't
see from their homes in Dasmarinas and Forbes.
What bothers me is that the ones who exhibit the greatest amount of
change are those who come from the middle classes. A disproportionately
large number of the students involved in civic organizations are
scholars. A significant number do come from the higher classes, but for
the most part they remain content to sit in their ivory towers, sometimes
even ridiculing those Ateneans who do try to effect change in their own
modest ways.
I believe the environment has a lot to do with it. While the administration
preaches its worthy gospel of social justice, economic necessities dictate
that the school environment will be one of economic elitism. It is the
wealthier students who can afford such quality education. Having lead
relatively sheltered lives, they are less sensitive to the suffering around
them. Moreover, being in a school where most of the students are very well
off tends to inure them to the need for social change. In a school were
fewer people come from the elite, you'd expect the students to develop a
deeper appreciation of what society is really like.
Mind you, I'm neither lambasting these students nor making excuses for
them. That is not my business. I simply consider it a sad commentary
on society today.
So what is the solution? I don't have one. I do have ideas on how things
can be changed. Indeed, I have often shared these ideas with both
students and faculty members. However, there are no simple solutions,
and I won't pretend that there are.
>It takes a lot to be aware of your surroundings, especially when
>you're in a school like the Ateneo, but truly, the school is more
>than just a name--it is an institution. Not many may realize all
>this, but I'm sure many are aware of it. I know a lot may not agree
>to what I have to say or have said, but to understand it is simply
>to be part of that Atenean experience--an experience that is just
>like what the LaSallites also have, or people from UP, UST, etc.
I don't think that the exprience is "just like" what the others have.
That's because the thrust of Jesuit education is somewhat... unique.
By saying this, of course, I'm not attempting to demean the academic
experiences of others. The experience is different, but not necessarily
better.
Anyway, I do understand what you meant. You were stressing equality,
and I won't quarrel about that.
--
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr, Department of Electrical Eng'g and Applied Physics
graduate student slave, roboticist-in-training and Q wannabee
Wise men still | I practice the safest form of sex | My boss is a
seek Christ. | known. It's called abstinence. | Jewish carpenter
Gilbert Villaroman
Dear Mhike,
I must say, you've emphasized some good points (same to you, Dean).
It is nice to know that people are aware of these things and have
not kept themselves inside those "ivory towers." It sure is
wonderful to hear these things from Ateneans. Not many can be like
you. Sad as it may seem, not many have realized the true meaning of
a Jesuit education. As a result, others have and will continue to
keep themselves inside those ivory towers, above the clouds, on top
of that green hill they call the Ateneo.
Anyway, I just want to salute you and Dean for voicing out your
opinions about all of these. Despite the heated arguements, I do
hope nothing is taken personally and there are no hard feelings
about it. I do want to take the opportunity to greet all of you "A
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!" May you all have a great
year ahead of you.
cane...@gold.tc.umn.edu
>
>I used to believe I had wings... but later on in life, I realized I only
>had feet. I can only JUMP, climb trees, hike mountains, run ... and walk.
>
>Why the hell did I feel I was flying? I had such an impressionable mind
>back then. I had an ego that was highly inflatable, and the
>Ateneo had all the free helium to blow it up to the nth degree. I was
>flying alright, but not on wings ... just air, air much lighter than
>what I'm accustomed to. Thank you, Ateneo, for the experience of flying.
>
>But Ateneo, let me go. I don't want my feet to get atrophied. I want to
>JUMP, climb trees, hike mountains, run ... and walk. I value my feet,
>and I think I much prefer land over picture perfect cotton clouds.
>
>-Mhike
Ah yes, the Ateneo...Ateneo de Manila High School, to be exact. Where PYBs
coming out of the grade school spend puberty and quasi-maturity, go on soirees
with Povedans, Assumptionistas, St.Scho kids, and even ober-da-bakod
(pahiram!) Mary Knollers (now Miriam-ers?), and where students individually
recite their chosen poems complete with gestures and movie-camera-emoting in
front of classmates for a grade in English class (I must have heard that darn
Annabel Lee (sp?) and The Raven zillions of times!), and everyone in the high
school compound turns out full force for Friday (first?) mass in the covered
courts, not to mention those attempts at a career in theater and stage through
Dulaang Sibol (for almost everyone) while being terrorized by Macayan in
algebra class since he starts out by enumerating the field axioms which now
seems to me more like a rather early introduction to abstract algebra for he
could as easily have discussed group theory, and whereas 4th year students
get to teach elementary kids in Barangka, Marikina for exposure to the less
privileged sector(s) of society, they remain essentially confined to their
genetic social ionosphere once the kids (who go to Loyola House by trekking
up those precipitous hillside footpaths) go back, and where all the books you
used for classes have to be returned to that window at the side of the libe
after the schoolyear's over or you're screwed, and teachers make sure you go
to games pitting Ateneo against its competitors by checking attendance at the
game site, and where young teens are conditioned by a modified Ludovico
technique (confer A Clockwork Orange) to detest other schools specially those
green archers while proclaiming to be the best of the best (not the movie),
and where priests are priests and more, and I could just go on and on and rant
and rave because of a veritable flood of memories but I won't.
Gotcha.
Cheers, JC
" Blue eagle, you ain't that blue no more. "
Game of the XXVIIth Olympiad
>Should this really happen? I feel for the mother of Lenny who was
>shown understandably in gloom spirits but most of all in puzzlement
>of how/why her son dies by a broken spine, severe hematoma in various
>parts of the body and eventually a cardiac arrest only for wishes of
>joining a group for brotherly love and oneness with other "special"
>people.
>Let us pray for Lenny.
We can only pray for his family that God continue to give them the courage
and strength that they need... And for Lenny, pray for his justice as I
heard that those responsible are going to appeal the verdict.
>Jorge
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>==jo...@tfs.com (TRW Inc)===============Let us not
forget!=====================>========================| "I gave you 11 months
of my life, why can't you give|>===My opinions only!====| me 11 minutes of
yours?" -- Ninoy Aquino on
trial |>====================================================================
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regards,
tony
Rhett Valino Pascual
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