Why do all of Jasmine (milagrosa) rice comes from Thailand?

[Paul Bondoc]

I'm from northern California, and everytime I go to buy rice, it
always is from Thailand. I have yet to see one come from the
Philippines.
Didn't we come up with this variety originally? Correct me if I'm
wrong but I believe it was from U.P. Los Banos.
I wonder where all of the Philippines' rice ends up?

Paul

You may disagree with my opinion, but do so in a non profane manner.
Otherwise, I will simply ignore it!

[Manny Valencia]

Paul Bondoc wrote:
>
> I'm from northern California, and everytime I go to buy rice, it
> always is from Thailand. I have yet to see one come from the
> Philippines.
> Didn't we come up with this variety originally? Correct me if I'm
> wrong but I believe it was from U.P. Los Banos.
> I wonder where all of the Philippines' rice ends up?

As far as I know, we have a shortage on rice either that we even import
some of them.

Secondly, Filipinos didn't have the guts to break the American market
yet. We have plenty of good products in the Phil. but they never get to
be exported properly.

Manny

[Junjie Noguera]

On Fri, 24 Jan 1997 05:02:38 GMT, pdbo...@idiom.com (Paul Bondoc)
wrote:

>I'm from northern California, and everytime I go to buy rice, it
>always is from Thailand. I have yet to see one come from the
>Philippines.
>Didn't we come up with this variety originally? Correct me if I'm
>wrong but I believe it was from U.P. Los Banos.
>I wonder where all of the Philippines' rice ends up?
>
>

>Paul
>
>You may disagree with my opinion, but do so in a non profane manner.
>Otherwise, I will simply ignore it!

I think the variety (as most varieties were) was developed at IRRI
(International Rice Research Institute?) in UPLB. But as to producing
the rice for export, perhaps we lack the technology or the funds to do
it. What is sad is that we did not profit from the development; or
at least we did not get more than what we had gotten from it (BTW, did
we get anything from it?).

Junjie

[Junjie Noguera]

On Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:02:19 -0800, Manny Valencia
<vale...@esd.sgi.com> wrote:

I think most of the rice that is produced in the Philippines end up in
the table of the farmers that grew them. We do get shortages so much
so that we even export them as Manny mentioned. Weird, isn't it? For
a country that wanted to stay an agricultural economy (as was being
proposed before Aquino and Ramos) we could not even produce enough
food to satisfy the population. But then again, I don't think we have
enough technology to produce as much as we can possibly produce (what
with the arable land and good soil quality that we have.) Most
farmers are still using the over-worked carabao to till the land and
are still hoping the rain will keep on coming to water the rice
paddies (?) and that a son in the family will not go to the city so
that he can help with the labor. I could hardly believe that after I
left for the US I heard that some provinces were experiencing drought
in the summer despite flooding during the rainy season in the same
area.

However, it is heartening to know that the Philippine government is
trying to change or has actually changed its focus from the
agri-business economy to more of high technology and services.
Hopefully, the sick man of Asia will finally be cured and will be a
force to reckon with.

Junjie

>Paul Bondoc wrote:
>>
>> I'm from northern California, and everytime I go to buy rice, it
>> always is from Thailand. I have yet to see one come from the
>> Philippines.
>> Didn't we come up with this variety originally? Correct me if I'm
>> wrong but I believe it was from U.P. Los Banos.
>> I wonder where all of the Philippines' rice ends up?
>

>As far as I know, we have a shortage on rice either that we even import
>some of them.
>
>Secondly, Filipinos didn't have the guts to break the American market
>yet. We have plenty of good products in the Phil. but they never get to
>be exported properly.
>
> Manny
>
>>
>>

[Virgie S Zapanta]

Manny Valencia (vale...@esd.sgi.com) wrote:
: Paul Bondoc wrote:
: > I wonder where all of the Philippines' rice ends up?
: Secondly, Filipinos didn't have the guts to break the American market

: yet. We have plenty of good products in the Phil. but they never get to
: be exported properly.

how about those del-monte cans(product of the Phil).? there's a
lot of that here in States.

[Bgdomingo]

Years ago, the Philippines was the no.1 rice exporter in Asia. I don't
know what went wrong, but right now as you read this mail, we are the no.1
importer of rice.

Bong Domingo

[Fred Amores]

Maybe we may consider several factors: Poor harvest, bad weather, soil
erosion, primitive technology, poor distribution, storage problem, NFA
official's corrupt practices and over population. Any news development
about a ship load of rice from India intended for N.F.A. that
mysteriously sunk somewhere in South China Sea? This "sinking
incident" is the real milagrosa.
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[Paul Bondoc]

On 25 Jan 97 07:52:22 GMT, "Elson Trinidad" <el...@westworld.com>
wrote:

>
>
>Paul Bondoc <pdbo...@idiom.com> wrote in article
><32e84072...@idiom.com>...

>> I'm from northern California, and everytime I go to buy rice, it
>> always is from Thailand. I have yet to see one come from the
>> Philippines.
>> Didn't we come up with this variety originally? Correct me if I'm
>> wrong but I believe it was from U.P. Los Banos.

>> I wonder where all of the Philippines' rice ends up?
>
>

>Hey, don't complain...guess where the Japan's primary rice supply comes
>from?
I'm not complaining Elson, I'm just wondering so I ask. Thank you for
your response though.

>
>TEXAS! (No kidding!)
Wow! I learned something new again.

>
>Elson

[Elson Trinidad]

Paul Bondoc <pdbo...@idiom.com> wrote in article
<32e84072...@idiom.com>...
> I'm from northern California, and everytime I go to buy rice, it
> always is from Thailand. I have yet to see one come from the
> Philippines.
> Didn't we come up with this variety originally? Correct me if I'm
> wrong but I believe it was from U.P. Los Banos.
> I wonder where all of the Philippines' rice ends up?

Hey, don't complain...guess where the Japan's primary rice supply comes
from?

TEXAS! (No kidding!)

Elson

[Paul Bondoc]

On 25 Jan 1997 04:33:21 GMT, bgdo...@aol.com (Bgdomingo) wrote:

>Years ago, the Philippines was the no.1 rice exporter in Asia. I don't
>know what went wrong, but right now as you read this mail, we are the no.1
>importer of rice.
>
>Bong Domingo

How sad :-(

[Tikbalang]

Exporting rice from the Philippines, I believe, is banned. Probably
Thailand has a lot of surplus of rice and can afford to export it. That
explain why Milagrosa rice always comes from Thailand for this is the way
the Thai also called this rice.

The Thais have sent numerous scholars to the International Rice Research
Center in the Philippines. This is where the Milagrosa or Miracle rice
have been developed. From that they have able to produce this miracle rice
in their homeland and give gratitude to the Philippines by calling this
rice as Milagrosa. I know this for I have able to be a friend with some of
them and they mentioned this rice to me before.

We plant this Milagrosa rice also in our rice field and it is really a
miracle. Imagine it can produced 100 cavans of rice in one hectare. That
is a lot of dough man.

[hagibis]

Milagrosa came from Nueva Ecija, long before the "Miracle Rice" was
produced in Los Baños.

[Gilbert M.]

So that is why

[Alberto C. Dela Paz]

From what I know Jasmine rice is a Thai variety and not one of those
varieties which was developed by the International Rice Research
Institute. IRRI varieties in the past and future will tend to be high
yielding varieties which does not always translate to good taste and
texture. Jasmine rice in Thailand is premium rice. Very often what we
get in the department stores is not pure Jasmine rice. I would have to
go the province to get 100% Jasmine rice.

Bert de la Paz
Bangkok, Thailand

[Tikbalang]

Alberto C. Dela Paz of albe...@mozart.inet.co.th
Date: 3 Feb 1997 15:54:21 GMT
Message-ID: <5d51nd$m...@chopin.inet.co.th>wrote:

Another false advertizement then or is that real that we can buy in USA?
If Jasmine is a premium rice in Thailand, how come that they can export it
here in USA? Is that mean that Jasmine rice is hoarded in Thailand for
export to get a higher profit? Something fishy here.

[Johnny Thor]

Tikbalang <tikb...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970204094...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

>
> Another false advertizement then or is that real that we can buy in USA?
> If Jasmine is a premium rice in Thailand, how come that they can export
it
> here in USA? Is that mean that Jasmine rice is hoarded in Thailand for
> export to get a higher profit? Something fishy here.
>

Nothing fishy here. It's all free enterprise. The rice producer gets better
profit from overseas sale so the product is sold overseas in lieu of
domestic.

JT

[Gene Alcantara]

In article <19970204094...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, Tikbalang (tikb...@aol.com) writes:
>Alberto C. Dela Paz of albe...@mozart.inet.co.th
>Date: 3 Feb 1997 15:54:21 GMT
>Message-ID: <5d51nd$m...@chopin.inet.co.th>wrote:
>>
>>From what I know Jasmine rice is a Thai variety and not one of those
>>varieties which was developed by the International Rice Research
>>Institute. IRRI varieties in the past and future will tend to be high
>>yielding varieties which does not always translate to good taste and
>>texture. Jasmine rice in Thailand is premium rice. Very often what we
>>get in the department stores is not pure Jasmine rice. I would have to
>>go the province to get 100% Jasmine rice.
>>
>>Bert de la Paz
>>Bangkok, Thailand
>

>Another false advertizement then or is that real that we can buy in USA?
>If Jasmine is a premium rice in Thailand, how come that they can export it
>here in USA? Is that mean that Jasmine rice is hoarded in Thailand for
>export to get a higher profit? Something fishy here.
>

'Milagrosa' brand of rice from Thailand is also on sale in oriental
groceries in London. Absolutely delicious and fragrant. Costs
about 15 Pounds for a 10 kg sack.

The fact that such rice only comes from Thailand now is an
indictment of Philippine agricultural policy (?or lack thereof).
Did the government simply lose interest, was there a lack of
invesment, did the Thais beat us to the patent, what? Somebody out
there must know.

[Tikbalang]

Gene Alcantara of gen...@alcantara.win-uk.net
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 01:22:58 GMT
Message-ID: <5...@alcantara.win-uk.net>wrote

>Milagrosa' brand of rice from Thailand is also on sale in oriental
>groceries in London. Absolutely delicious and fragrant. Costs
>about 15 Pounds for a 10 kg sack.
>
>The fact that such rice only comes from Thailand now is an
>indictment of Philippine agricultural policy (?or lack thereof).
>Did the government simply lose interest, was there a lack of
>invesment, did the Thais beat us to the patent, what? Somebody out
>there must know.

Yeah, somebody must know but not the Philippines. It seems to me that the
Philippine government is giving priority for citizens consumption by
banning the exportation of rice and be given a commendation for doing so.
Meanwhile, the Thailand government has to give a better explaination of
their capability as the source of exported rice. Maybe a difference of
agricultural areas, technology or clandestines trade anomalies?

[fila...@gmail.com]

Milagrosa came from the Philippines and Thailand now exporting them as Jasmine rice. Sorry and sad for the Philippines 😢

[pilipinai...@yahoo.com]

Hello friends this is a very interesting post and I directed my Sony's oriental market Facebook page to your discussion. I am the owner of a small retail store and I agree with these opinions. When I talk to my Chinese Filipino wholesaler known as golden International in Seattle I am often apprised of FDA inspection issues. It is common that in the Philippines there is some type of an issue with quality control. For some reason I also don't think that Filipino have the confidence in the infrastructure to Market outside of the Philippines or possibly the lack of land space. Since it is a staple in the Philippines. Now I have also been told by my wholesaler such popular products as lucky me are so popular that there is not enough to supply the demand within the Philippines and so therefore they cannot even export lucky me products in the months of November and December. I have found from trying to order products from the Philippines it's just a klusterfuk hit and miss situation. The lack of consistency of availability of Filipino products is disheartening and the professionalism and business mindedness simply is not there in the Philippines or at least it doesn't carry over to the American Market. There is also a product. Dat puti made by Nutri Asia and although this product became popular the company mistreated its employees to the point they went on strike and although this is an extremely indemand product now it is not available in the US because of the business failing to have the business sense to treat its employees well. Anyways I digress but the Filipino products definitely have many issues with exporting and inspections with the FDA although I am not certain of the ins and outs and I'm wondering how Thailand can produce the rice to export but why can't the Philippines doesn't make any sense to me either

[jasmi...@gmail.com]

On Friday, January 24, 1997 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, Paul Bondoc wrote:
> I'm from northern California, and everytime I go to buy rice, it
> always is from Thailand. I have yet to see one come from the
> Philippines.
> Didn't we come up with this variety originally? Correct me if I'm
> wrong but I believe it was from U.P. Los Banos.
> I wonder where all of the Philippines' rice ends up?
>
>

> Paul
>
> You may disagree with my opinion, but do so in a non profane manner.
> Otherwise, I will simply ignore it!

In 2018, Thailand exported the highest volume of jasmine rice to the United States, accounting for a 33 percent share among other export destinations. Thai jasmine rice was recognized globally for its high quality among all types of rice traded.Oct 9, 2019