Eating Balut: Do you feel guilty?
mata...@my-deja.com
The last time i was eating balut, my foreign friends
teased me about whether i feel guilty about eating cooked
unhatched chick.
I have to admit, It used to be a treat. Balut is so much a
part of our culture that we were born to and grew up with.
No one ever said it's cruel.
My question is, does anyone among you feel guilty or have you
stopped eating it?
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Gopher
still does. I eat full grown cooked chickens.
Dead is Dead. Why would you feel guilty?
Got to eat, Right? Just so happens that what you like to eat hasn't been
hatched yet.
Tell your foreign friends to relax!
I work with quite a few Filipino's and some of them say they used to eat
dog's.
I don't care!!
As long as they don't come around asking to walk mine.
If it tastes good, EAT IT!!!
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tansong isda
>
> The last time i was eating balut, my foreign friends
> teased me about whether i feel guilty about eating cooked
> unhatched chick.
>
> I have to admit, It used to be a treat. Balut is so much a
> part of our culture that we were born to and grew up with.
> No one ever said it's cruel.
>
> My question is, does anyone among you feel guilty or have you
> stopped eating it?
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
I don't eat it as much as I used to, it is too
rich!
I don't think its cruel, what's the difference
between a full grown duck to an embryonic one?!
Nothing!, one is hatched and the other is not.
They are both ducks!
mata...@my-deja.com
tansong isda
>
> But seriously, a few months ago, I came accross a news article.
> (I wish I still have the copy but I don't anymore) Apparently, there
> is a certain kind of duck which Balut makers breed for the eggs. They
> are now concerned that this duck is now threatened due to Balut
> production itself. More Baluts to cook less chicks to grow into adult
> ducks...and eventually, another Philippine species has gone vamoos.
>
> No Peking duck for everybody ;-)
>
> In article <7o2iud$h5a$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
No, the breed is endangered because people are now
eating the adult as well as the unborn chicks. The
breed is also temperamental. Do you know that they
are now exporting the ducks to other parts of
Asia? As a matter of fact, some SouthEast Asians
now thinks balut is originally from their
country...but still using the word balut.
They are raising the ducks in Cambodia and
Thailand now.
Dirty Sick Pig
Tans, I visited a barkada's balut factory in Mayondon, Laguna before I
got lassoed. This town is somewhere near College and Los Banos and
right on the shore of Laguna Lake. You are right, these ducks look
different. The coloration is closest to the mallard. They were fed
small green clams, shells and all. They are small and the size of their
eggs are out of proportion to their size. I was served a dish simply
called adobong balut. Great with Red Horse, of course. I even learned
to how spot those that can no longer lay eggs and therefore candidates
for the oven.
As far as the guilt trip, which is the subject of this thread, is
concerned, I remember posting in APH (in response to Vina's reaction to
my criticsm of French cuisine) the French practice of eating a certain
specie of little birds live from the cage. The cage with the birds is
brought to the table and a towel is draped over cage and the diner's
head. When the diners emerges from the towel, the birds should be gone
and he's picking his teeth. I'll stick to balut, thank you. (I can't
stand penoy, but I ate them anyway.)
tansong isda
The French! I saw a movie where the duck is cooked
half-way and then pressed, it's juices and blood
is poured into a bowl and eaten like cold soup...
They call this gourmet!!...I thought we are
barbarians! I am wrong.
Those ducks that lays the balut are Pinoy fowls,
and they can't fly. The only kind in the world.
tansong isda
>
> Gopher wrote:
> >
> > Being an American, I have never eaten balut. But my wife has and sometimes
> > still does. I eat full grown cooked chickens.
> > Dead is Dead. Why would you feel guilty?
> > Got to eat, Right? Just so happens that what you like to eat hasn't been
> > hatched yet.
> > Tell your foreign friends to relax!
> >
> > I work with quite a few Filipino's and some of them say they used to eat
> > dog's.
> > I don't care!!
> > As long as they don't come around asking to walk mine.
> >
>
> i mean, come on folks, get the dogs out of the food chain - it's like
> eating your best friend.
>
I never met a dog that I consider my best
friend...don't get stuck on the dog bit, I told
you it isn't really a Filipino thing to eat dogs,
it was brought over by the Chinese...there isn't a
Filipino dog species, they came from the mainland.
If this bothers you, then you'll be surprised to
know, dogs is part of the food chain everywhere at
one time. Get that out of your head, one of the
reason the dog became food is this:
Islanders, even mainlanders go through the famine
period, dogs are great survivalists so there you
go, a candidate! Throughout history, China suffers
an annual flood causing great hunger. Philipines
and the islands go through the same almost
annually, red tides and El niños, dogs naturally
became food! So don't be naive and eat what's in
front of you! Dammit!
> my next door neighbors are filipino; i'd like to get a dog, but i'm
> afraid to get one and leave him in the back yard while i'm gone to
> work because i don't know if they're dog-eaters. how do you ask people
> about this kind of thing? hey, it's a joke folks...
>
Just offer them the dog..if they refused, then
they don't eat dogs(careful they might call the
humane society and get yerass!!).
> on the balut thing, i don't get the big deal about eating chickens;
> it's like feeling guilty about eating veal (which i think is the
> flesh from young lambs).
>
Balut is ducks, and veal is beef....
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mata...@my-deja.com
But seriously, a few months ago, I came accross a news article.
(I wish I still have the copy but I don't anymore) Apparently, there
is a certain kind of duck which Balut makers breed for the eggs. They
are now concerned that this duck is now threatened due to Balut
production itself. More Baluts to cook less chicks to grow into adult
ducks...and eventually, another Philippine species has gone vamoos.
No Peking duck for everybody ;-)
In article <7o2iud$h5a$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
mata...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>
> Which reminds me peking duck....saraap!
>
mata...@my-deja.com
Thanks. But with all due respect, It's not a matter of getting
to eat. I've always thought balut is an expensive treat. Even to
many people I know.
As for walking your dog, I'm sure it knows who to trust. :-)
In article <QI%o3.332$wC.4...@typhoon1.gnilink.net>,
"Gopher" <sagr...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> Being an American, I have never eaten balut. But my wife has and
sometimes
> still does. I eat full grown cooked chickens.
> Dead is Dead. Why would you feel guilty?
> Got to eat, Right? Just so happens that what you like to eat hasn't
been
> hatched yet.
> Tell your foreign friends to relax!
>
> I work with quite a few Filipino's and some of them say they used to
eat
> dog's.
> I don't care!!
> As long as they don't come around asking to walk mine.
>
> If it tastes good, EAT IT!!!
>
> <mata...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7o0vba$h14
$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> >
> >
> >
ronald
>
> Being an American, I have never eaten balut. But my wife has and sometimes
> still does. I eat full grown cooked chickens.
> Dead is Dead. Why would you feel guilty?
> Got to eat, Right? Just so happens that what you like to eat hasn't been
> hatched yet.
> Tell your foreign friends to relax!
>
> I work with quite a few Filipino's and some of them say they used to eat
> dog's.
> I don't care!!
> As long as they don't come around asking to walk mine.
>
this dog-eating thing really bothers me. just the idea of it and all.
i mean, come on folks, get the dogs out of the food chain - it's like
eating your best friend.
my next door neighbors are filipino; i'd like to get a dog, but i'm
afraid to get one and leave him in the back yard while i'm gone to
work because i don't know if they're dog-eaters. how do you ask people
about this kind of thing? hey, it's a joke folks...
on the balut thing, i don't get the big deal about eating chickens;
it's like feeling guilty about eating veal (which i think is the
flesh from young lambs).
--
bongn...@my-deja.com
hotdogs, or any food with meat on it. Eating Balut is like eating any
other meat. Don't stop eating Balut, because your friend Questioned
your Cuture. Be true to your Culture.
Kano Ako
writes:
->
->Gopher wrote:
->>
->> Being an American, I have never eaten balut. But my wife has and sometimes
->> still does. I eat full grown cooked chickens.
->> Dead is Dead. Why would you feel guilty?
->> Got to eat, Right? Just so happens that what you like to eat hasn't been
->> hatched yet.
->> Tell your foreign friends to relax!
->>
->> I work with quite a few Filipino's and some of them say they used to eat
->> dog's.
->> I don't care!!
->> As long as they don't come around asking to walk mine.
->>
->
->this dog-eating thing really bothers me. just the idea of it and all.
->i mean, come on folks, get the dogs out of the food chain - it's like
->eating your best friend.
->
->my next door neighbors are filipino; i'd like to get a dog, but i'm
->afraid to get one and leave him in the back yard while i'm gone to
->work because i don't know if they're dog-eaters. how do you ask people
->about this kind of thing? hey, it's a joke folks...
->
->on the balut thing, i don't get the big deal about eating chickens;
->it's like feeling guilty about eating veal (which i think is the
->flesh from young lambs).
A couple of things. First off do you eat cows? How could you? Don't you
feel guilty? You could be eating your Grandma or Father or a deceased
family member! At least that is what a Hindu would say to you.
Secondly it is my understanding that the eating of dogs is mostly done by
drunkards and falls mainly into the pulutan category and is not a food
considered for the family dinner. Or at least my one buddy told me that to
ease me (not needed but anyway).
BTW veal is from a calf that was not weaned from mother's milk.
Magingat kayong lahat ang sabi ni Kano Ako!
Dirty Sick Pig
>
> this dog-eating thing really bothers me. just the idea of it and all.
>
> my next door neighbors are filipino; i'd like to get a dog, but i'm
>
>
If symbolic relationships between man and animal is what makes you
horrified at dogburgers, what about these? Lamb and fish = symbols for
the Christian God. Veal = this is where the guilt should be. Calves
(yes, beef) are kept in crates so they cannot move around and develop
muscles. They are half-starved (corn gruel only) so their meat is
lean. Their short lives are spent from birth to death immobile. So
enjoy your veal. It came from animals tortured for your eating
pleasure.
Knock on your next door neighbors' door and ask. If you're lucky you
won't have to duck.
Dirty Sick Pig
>
> BTW veal is from a calf that was not weaned from mother's milk.
No kidding? Just read my description of veal somewhere in this thread.
I can post pictures but maybe that's too much.
tansong isda
>
You are the only Kano I will respect...hehehehe,
everyone deserves respect...just joking.
You are right, dogs are eaten by drunks and
women(even when drunk)won't. The true reason for
this is that no one wants to take the family's
dinner for just a little taste of the wild(It has
a wilder flavor than venison, real close tho').
Goes well with the drink.
Besides the victim is usually the homeless ones,
better than gassing them! This is actually a lot
more humane IMO. So eat me, when I die!!
ronald
>
> ronald wrote:
> >
> > my next door neighbors are filipino; i'd like to get a dog, but i'm
> >
> they don't eat dogs(careful they might call the
> humane society and get yerass!!).
>
now *that's* funny.
ronald
> ->eating your best friend.
>
>
why, no i don't.
> Don't you feel guilty?
>
cows aren't pets, they're raised as prey animals. dogs, on the other
hand, are pets in much (if not most) of the world. cows aren't.
however, in the general scheme of nature, predators eat prey animals
and not other predators (at least among land animals). predators tend
to kill other predators because they are competing for the same supply
of prey animals. dogs are predatory animals, humans are predatory
animals. cows are prey animals. so cultural biases notwithstanding
predators eating predators is not a reliable food chain.
> You could be eating your Grandma or Father or a deceased
> family member! At least that is what a Hindu would say to you.
>
i spoke to a person from india to understand the whole "cow" thing
and the explanaation that she gave me was that since we get nourishment
from cows, eating a cow is like killing something from which we get
nourishment. and since we get nourishment from a cow, the cow becomes
a part of us, therefore, you shouldn't want to kill and eat it.
i'm like, huh??? i mean, when you kill a cow and *eat* it is also
gives us nourishment and becomes a part of us (based upon the premise
of 'what you eat is what you are'). the same holds true for any other
animal that we eat.
> Secondly it is my understanding that the eating of dogs is mostly done by
> drunkards and falls mainly into the pulutan category and is not a food
> considered for the family dinner.
>
that darned tansong isda! i knew he was an alcoholic. :-)
> Magingat kayong lahat ang sabi ni Kano Ako!
>
btw, do i want to say something like 'salamat' to this?
tansong isda
>
> Magingat kayong lahat ang sabi ni Kano Ako!
>
Whoever has a sig like these, has to be heeded.
Opo, mag-iingat po...
nabi
see them as beer food. You eat rabbits,horses and possibly skunks, we don't. At
least we don't go out in the sidewalk begging with our dog saying 'SPARE SOME
CHANGE,I'M HUNGRY' Men o men...we're smart...we'll eat the fucking dog than beg,
borrow or steal like you do.
tansong isda wrote:
> ronald wrote:
> >
> > Gopher wrote:
> > >
> > > Being an American, I have never eaten balut. But my wife has and sometimes
> > > still does. I eat full grown cooked chickens.
> > > Dead is Dead. Why would you feel guilty?
> > > Got to eat, Right? Just so happens that what you like to eat hasn't been
> > > hatched yet.
> > > Tell your foreign friends to relax!
> > >
> > > I work with quite a few Filipino's and some of them say they used to eat
> > > dog's.
> > > I don't care!!
> > > As long as they don't come around asking to walk mine.
> > >
> >
> > this dog-eating thing really bothers me. just the idea of it and all.
> > i mean, come on folks, get the dogs out of the food chain - it's like
> > eating your best friend.
> >
> I never met a dog that I consider my best
> friend...don't get stuck on the dog bit, I told
> you it isn't really a Filipino thing to eat dogs,
> it was brought over by the Chinese...there isn't a
> Filipino dog species, they came from the mainland.
> If this bothers you, then you'll be surprised to
> know, dogs is part of the food chain everywhere at
> one time. Get that out of your head, one of the
> reason the dog became food is this:
> Islanders, even mainlanders go through the famine
> period, dogs are great survivalists so there you
> go, a candidate! Throughout history, China suffers
> an annual flood causing great hunger. Philipines
> and the islands go through the same almost
> annually, red tides and El niños, dogs naturally
> became food! So don't be naive and eat what's in
> front of you! Dammit!
>
> > my next door neighbors are filipino; i'd like to get a dog, but i'm
> > afraid to get one and leave him in the back yard while i'm gone to
> > work because i don't know if they're dog-eaters. how do you ask people
> > about this kind of thing? hey, it's a joke folks...
> >
> Just offer them the dog..if they refused, then
> they don't eat dogs(careful they might call the
> humane society and get yerass!!).
>
> > on the balut thing, i don't get the big deal about eating chickens;
> > it's like feeling guilty about eating veal (which i think is the
> > flesh from young lambs).
> >
> Balut is ducks, and veal is beef....
>
Kano Ako
writes:
->
->
->> Magingat kayong lahat ang sabi ni Kano Ako!
->>
->
->btw, do i want to say something like 'salamat' to this?
Kung gusto mo. Signature ko na lang! :-)
warakurna
mammal, reptile, amphibians, etc. then everybody stays silent. if i had
anaconda as pet, i will still eat one (but perhaps not the one i keep
when it dies). come war when there is nothing to eat, i would like u to
watch me live then me watch how u last for hrs.
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tansong isda
Interesting, tell you what, he won't see you do
anything, cause he'll be in my pot...if that
happens..that is if even dog is gone out and
eaten.
Kano Ako
->i spoke to a person from india to understand the whole "cow" thing
->and the explanaation that she gave me was that since we get nourishment
->from cows, eating a cow is like killing something from which we get
->nourishment. and since we get nourishment from a cow, the cow becomes
->a part of us, therefore, you shouldn't want to kill and eat it.
->
->i'm like, huh??? i mean, when you kill a cow and *eat* it is also
->gives us nourishment and becomes a part of us (based upon the premise
->of 'what you eat is what you are'). the same holds true for any other
->animal that we eat.
Well the cow ceases giving meat when you consume it. OTOH it keeps on
giving milk and stuff if you don't kill it and keep it calving.
BTW that is the non-Hindu rationalization a friend of mine said the same
thing, though Her Mother in Law will soon be running around the Wisconsin
farmland looking for a cow to worship and to offer food to!
Kano Ako
writes:
->
->tansong isda wrote:
->>
->> ronald wrote:
->> >
->> > my next door neighbors are filipino; i'd like to get a dog, but i'm
->> > afraid to get one and leave him in the back yard while i'm gone to
->> > work because i don't know if they're dog-eaters. how do you ask people
->> > about this kind of thing? hey, it's a joke folks...
->> >
->> Just offer them the dog..if they refused, then
->> they don't eat dogs(careful they might call the
->> humane society and get yerass!!).
->>
->
->now *that's* funny.
Here in NE Wisconsin (as well as the rest of the state) we have a
substantial Hmong minority. PETA or some sort of whacko group paid some of
them to go get some dog and to secretly tape it. So they went to this
sorta dirt farmer type somewhere around and they did secretly tape the
slaughtering of the dogs. The Hmong then gave the tapes to the group.
Then the group took the tapes to the authorities who, I believe prosecuted
the man for cruelty to animals.
I believe this guy captured strays and feral dogs and then either sold them
to Hmongs or to laboratories. I also believe he did not take real good
care of the dogs.
Anyway.....there it is!
Kano Ako
<dirtys...@hotmail.com> writes:
->
->Kano Ako wrote:
->>
->> BTW veal is from a calf that was not weaned from mother's milk.
->
->No kidding? Just read my description of veal somewhere in this thread.
->I can post pictures but maybe that's too much.
Wont phase me. I hunt and have killed animals plus I live in the Middle of
Wisconsin's farmland have grown up around cows and almost on a daily basis
seeing cattle carriers headed to Green Bay's meat packing plants.
tansong isda
>
>
> Here in NE Wisconsin (as well as the rest of the state) we have a
> substantial Hmong minority. PETA or some sort of whacko group paid some of
> them to go get some dog and to secretly tape it. So they went to this
> sorta dirt farmer type somewhere around and they did secretly tape the
> slaughtering of the dogs. The Hmong then gave the tapes to the group.
> Then the group took the tapes to the authorities who, I believe prosecuted
> the man for cruelty to animals.
>
> I believe this guy captured strays and feral dogs and then either sold them
> to Hmongs or to laboratories. I also believe he did not take real good
> care of the dogs.
>
> Anyway.....there it is!
>
Imagine that, Hmong group here in Ca. gave me some
hate e-mail telling me that they don't eat dogs.
They are distant relatives of Filipinos, you
know....similarities in culture and of course,
rice terraces! They built a small one in the
mainland.
Carl
ronald
>
> In message <37A65EC5...@ripco.com> - ronald <ron...@ripco.com>
> writes:
> ->
>
> ->and the explanaation that she gave me was that since we get nourishment
> ->from cows, eating a cow is like killing something from which we get
> ->nourishment. and since we get nourishment from a cow, the cow becomes
> ->a part of us, therefore, you shouldn't want to kill and eat it.
> ->
> ->i'm like, huh??? i mean, when you kill a cow and *eat* it is also
> ->gives us nourishment and becomes a part of us (based upon the premise
> ->of 'what you eat is what you are'). the same holds true for any other
> ->animal that we eat.
>
> Well the cow ceases giving meat when you consume it.
>
how's that different from any other animal?
> OTOH it keeps on
> giving milk and stuff if you don't kill it and keep it calving.
>
since you're from wisconsin you know that beef cattle and dairy cattle
are different breeds.
ronald
>
> I've heard Koreans eat dogs as well. Hey, it's cultural. You consider dogs pet. We
> see them as beer food. You eat rabbits,horses and possibly skunks, we don't. At
> least we don't go out in the sidewalk begging with our dog saying 'SPARE SOME
> CHANGE,I'M HUNGRY' Men o men...we're smart...we'll eat the fucking dog than beg,
> borrow or steal like you do.
>
hold on here. for 10,000 years, dogs have hunted for you, they've been
your companions when you were lonely, they saved your ass when you were
in trouble. yet, the minute you feel the first pang of hunger you turn
your back on them and make them a meal?!?
i gotta tell you, you dog eaters should feel guilty about what you're
doing, if you had any conscience. i'm going to ask you one more time:
GET THE DOGS OUT OF THE FOOD CHAIN, FOLKS.
nabi
and then you turn around and nuke them for humburgers ..Common...stop
begging for food...eat your dogs!
tansong isda
Be fair then, don't eat cows, chickens and other
meats.
I don't think dogs have hunted in Asia. It is part
of the food chain and will remain so. If you
insist on this tone you will find yourself in hot
water in Asia.
Like I said before, historically, famine made
every living thing food including humans you have
no right to insist on your view of what's right.
You have to experience hunger, and once you do
you'll be with me eating what's available. Asia's
experiences on hunger caused this, and not the way
you think.
tansong isda
Cows have quietly tilled, gave milk and of course
itself. Dogs hunted for other meat, one so it can
eat and man takes it away before it can eat it's
prey (well, man gives it back the scraps). Dogs,
didn't give milk.
Kano Ako
writes:
->
->
->since you're from wisconsin you know that beef cattle and dairy cattle
->are different breeds.
And since I spent six years living overseas I also know most people make no
such distinction!
Kano Ako
<ta...@linkonline.net> writes:
->
->Like I said before, historically, famine made
->every living thing food including humans you have
->no right to insist on your view of what's right.
->You have to experience hunger, and once you do
->you'll be with me eating what's available. Asia's
->experiences on hunger caused this, and not the way
->you think.
During the Seige of Vicksburg in our Civil War the beseiged were eating
just about anything they could get their hands on. Or was it Petersburg or
both? Well the point is that horses, dogs, shoe leather, asses etc were
all considered edible because it was that or starve or succumb to disease.
tansong isda
Let me see...one generation of fat satisfied
humans, then people forget. In Asia, there's
always a period of famine, this doesn't happen
often now because hunger over there causes a human
wave of aid. But the last generation did
experience this, the generation before them even
greater.
Edgar Kabayo
>
> i gotta tell you, you dog eaters should feel guilty about what you're
> doing, if you had any conscience. i'm going to ask you one more time:
> GET THE DOGS OUT OF THE FOOD CHAIN, FOLKS.
You gotta tell us? Why, fuck you, sir, and your dog. Yum yum
bitchburgers just entered my menu. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT,
DOGBREATH?
anon...@web.remarq.com
they don't look like good prospects. The best land-meat we
eat seems to come from animals and birds that eat grains
and grasses. Dogs are protein eaters. Also, if you
haven't noticed, dogs eat disgusting things like the
excrement of other dogs and humans. I think this has
something to do with extracting the last bit of nutrition
(or "goodness" as the ads say) out of food material.
Also, dogs tend to be lean, especially strays and I can't
envision many prime cuts on a pooch. Maybe you could breed
them selectively for meat. But I doubt that the economics
would be good.
Beyond that, I find my aversion to eating meat increases as
I get nearer genetically to the species consumed. Fish are
not a problem, cold-blooded as they are, and mere reflexes
with fins. Chickens are not much higher up the genetic
scale and easy to chow down on. Pigs are a problem. I
work near an abatoir and often see trucks full of hogs
going in. They have such sensitive, human eyes peering
through the sides of the trailer. They remind me of Jews
going to Auschwitz. Of course, I love lechon anyway.
Orig
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ronald
>
> During the Seige of Vicksburg in our Civil War the beseiged were eating
> just about anything they could get their hands on. Or was it Petersburg or
> both? Well the point is that horses, dogs, shoe leather, asses etc were
> all considered edible because it was that or starve or succumb to disease.
>
i suppose that you could carry the story on to talk about stories of
cannibalism among people who journied westward during the frontier
days (when land was being snatched away from the prior occupants, i
might add).
so then you could say that in times of desparation people have eaten
horses, dogs, AND PEOPLE...
ronald
>
> Let me see...one generation of fat satisfied
> humans, then people forget. In Asia, there's
> always a period of famine, this doesn't happen
> often now because hunger over there causes a human
> wave of aid.
>
yeah, but the typical response by predators in times of famine is to
seek smaller prey animals. for instance, lions will chase small
animals for food when necessary. the fact is, preying on other
predators is not a reliable source of food; so much so that most
predators don't bother. other predators breed much too slowly, and
they can only grow to the extent that their prey thrive. so for a
predator to depend upon another predator for food, the lower (in the
food chain) predator would have to find enough prey to keep up a
population. however, if there is enough prey for the lower predator
to keep going, it would make more sense for the higher (in the food
chain) predator to go after those same prey. in which case the higher
predator has an incentive to kill the lower predator in order to reduce
competition for the food supply.
i think that dogeating is ultimately a cultural thing. without ever
having been in asia i can tell you that if any significant number of
people really did resort to dogeating, dogs would quickly become
extinct; then people would end up starving anyway, or doing what
they should have done all along - go after the same prey after which
the dogs were going.
i think that you, yourself said that only a small number of filipinos
are actual dogeaters. after all, since it is "beer food" i can't
imagine that guys are sitting around eating (hot) dogs and slugging
down beers in the middle of a famine. you yourself also admitted to
being a dogeater; you've got internet access so i don't imagine that
you'll be personally seeing any famines in the near future; yet have
you ceased the practice of eating dogs? from what you write, i gather
not.
Alex Fabros
1 small stray or wild animal, dressed, and cut into serving-size pieces.
Brown the meat in a little oil in a heavy pot.
Combine
4 cloves of minced garlic
1/2 cup vinegar
1/4 cup cracked peppercorn
salt to taste
1 bay leaf
Bring to a medium boil and simmer over low head until meat is tender.
Serve over rice.
FROM: "Dining in the Depression: A Feast of Brotherly Love" in Filipinas Magazine, February 1996
tansong isda <ta...@linkonline.net> wrote in message news:37A8F6DA...@linkonline.net...
| Kano Ako wrote:
| >
| > In message <37A854AC...@linkonline.net> - tansong isda
| > <ta...@linkonline.net> writes:
| > ->
| >
| > ->Like I said before, historically, famine made
| > ->every living thing food including humans you have
| > ->no right to insist on your view of what's right.
| > ->You have to experience hunger, and once you do
| > ->you'll be with me eating what's available. Asia's
| > ->experiences on hunger caused this, and not the way
| > ->you think.
| >
| > During the Seige of Vicksburg in our Civil War the beseiged were eating
| > just about anything they could get their hands on. Or was it Petersburg or
| > both? Well the point is that horses, dogs, shoe leather, asses etc were
| > all considered edible because it was that or starve or succumb to disease.
| >
| > Magingat kayong lahat ang sabi ni Kano Ako!
| >
| > kan...@lakefield.net
|
| Let me see...one generation of fat satisfied
| humans, then people forget. In Asia, there's
| always a period of famine, this doesn't happen
| often now because hunger over there causes a human
tansong isda
>
> i suppose that you could carry the story on to talk about stories of
> cannibalism among people who journied westward during the frontier
> days (when land was being snatched away from the prior occupants, i
> might add).
>
> so then you could say that in times of desparation people have eaten
> horses, dogs, AND PEOPLE...
>
> __ ______ __ / __/ |
> _/ (_(_) / (_(_/_/_(_/ .
> the police are not here to create disorder.
> they're here to preserve disorder.
> -former chicago mayor richard j. daley
> (said during the 1968 democratic convention)
Ronald, why do you want to insist on this? There
isn't a point to it. And yes people is in the
menu...
R M Abacan
many westerners believe. The percentage of dog eaters in the Philippines is
probably less than 3% of the population and almost always, they're limited to
occasions where alcoholic beverages are served. The eating of dog meat is also
quite limited to the male population in many provinces.
I have personally tasted dog meat and I didn't find anything exciting about the
taste or aroma of the meat. I didn't feel any repulsion in my stomach, or a
conscious thought that I am eating (or tasting) man's best friend. Given a
choice between dog meat and goat meat, I prefer the latter.
Chris S.
mata...@my-deja.com wrote:
> My question is, does anyone among you feel guilty or have you
> stopped eating it?
I've never eaten balut.. I have an American stomach... ;P
I think, though, that there is nothing wrong with eating balut.... It's
like eating a chicken! At least the little chick in there wasn't born
and then killed...
What I found cruel though is buying baby chicks at a petshop and giving
them to little kids on easter... and then the little guys are neglected
come the day after easter... blah
--Chris
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>
> i think that dogeating is ultimately a cultural thing. without ever
> having been in asia i can tell you that if any significant number of
> people really did resort to dogeating, dogs would quickly become
> extinct; then people would end up starving anyway, or doing what
> they should have done all along - go after the same prey after which
> the dogs were going.
This is where you realize (or still don't realize) the root of your
attitudes that you're trying to impose on others.
We don't need to justify anything to you and you have no right to tell
us what to do or not to do with our AKC registered pets/prey/fodder.
It's that simple. If you persist in doing that, stand by for heavy
rolls.
I personally don't eat dogs, not because they are my livelihood, but I
just see no need to. If I have to I will, without hesitation.
You've already expressed your opinions, and re-expressing them over and
over again won't change anybody else's. Don't start a futile crusade
here because you will lose right from the start.
tansong isda
>
> tansong isda wrote:
> >
> > Let me see...one generation of fat satisfied
> > humans, then people forget. In Asia, there's
> > always a period of famine, this doesn't happen
> > often now because hunger over there causes a human
> > wave of aid.
> >
>
> seek smaller prey animals. for instance, lions will chase small
> animals for food when necessary. the fact is, preying on other
> predators is not a reliable source of food; so much so that most
> predators don't bother. other predators breed much too slowly, and
> they can only grow to the extent that their prey thrive. so for a
> predator to depend upon another predator for food, the lower (in the
> food chain) predator would have to find enough prey to keep up a
> population. however, if there is enough prey for the lower predator
> to keep going, it would make more sense for the higher (in the food
> chain) predator to go after those same prey. in which case the higher
> predator has an incentive to kill the lower predator in order to reduce
> competition for the food supply.
>
> having been in asia i can tell you that if any significant number of
> people really did resort to dogeating, dogs would quickly become
> extinct; then people would end up starving anyway, or doing what
> they should have done all along - go after the same prey after which
> the dogs were going.
>
> are actual dogeaters. after all, since it is "beer food" i can't
> imagine that guys are sitting around eating (hot) dogs and slugging
> down beers in the middle of a famine. you yourself also admitted to
> being a dogeater; you've got internet access so i don't imagine that
> you'll be personally seeing any famines in the near future; yet have
> you ceased the practice of eating dogs? from what you write, i gather
> not.
>
> __ ______ __ / __/ |
> _/ (_(_) / (_(_/_/_(_/ .
> the police are not here to create disorder.
> they're here to preserve disorder.
> -former chicago mayor richard j. daley
> (said during the 1968 democratic convention)
Dogs are in fact high up there in the food chain,
they are predators even when domesticated. Your
naivette is obvious here. Cats and dogs hunt for
food when left alone, even while in your house!
They also procreate plentifully!!
Even tho' dogs are eaten, they are not in danger
of extinction, among animals they have survived by
being friendly with their hosts, acting in a
symbiotic relationship with humans.
In most countries, prob. all countries, dogs have
multiplied so much that SPCA's have more trouble
keeping them and finding homes for them that they
gas more of them to sleep. Wouldn't it be more
humane if they are fed to the hungry?
Man, I wish people like you would wake up and stop
forcing other people w/c is proper food, there is
no such thing as proper food!
And I don't feel guilty at all, I will eat what's
served to me, be it snake or dog!
I have explained everything to you and still
refuses, there are too many idiots who are humane
towards animals and yet have a completely inhumane
attitude towards their fellow humans! Are you one
of those? You are beggining to sound like one!
John Grumbine
tansong isda wrote in message <37A9A47F...@linkonline.net>...
It may be that what Ronald was trying to say (and I'm not sure - but it
seemed that way) is that eating dogs is inefficient. Way back in college
bio (or agriculture?) they taught us that it takes 10 lbs of food to make 1
lb of animal. For example, it takes 10 lb of corn to make 1 lb of cow, and
10 lb of cow to make 1 lb of human. So if you eat corn, it takes 10 lbs to
gain a lb, but if you eat cow, it takes 100 lbs of corn for you to gain 1
lb, because it has to go through the cow first. IOW, eating predators is
inefficient because you lose 90% of the mass for each link in the chain, and
the only ones I can think of that we eat in the US are alligators (which is
more of a novelty - you won't find them in your local supermarket) and fish
(which are caught, not raised in farms).
For me, I've never eaten dog, but would try it. And it does seem to be
quite a waste to gas and incinerate all those animals at the SPCA - but
we're so overloaded with food here, would it really make a difference if we
fed them to people? And OT - they don't really gas them, they put them in a
chamber and suck the air out of it so they suffocate (it's cheaper). It
would be a lot more humane to shoot them in the head and feed them to
someone.
tansong isda
>
>
> It may be that what Ronald was trying to say (and I'm not sure - but it
> seemed that way) is that eating dogs is inefficient. Way back in college
> bio (or agriculture?) they taught us that it takes 10 lbs of food to make 1
> lb of animal. For example, it takes 10 lb of corn to make 1 lb of cow, and
> 10 lb of cow to make 1 lb of human. So if you eat corn, it takes 10 lbs to
> gain a lb, but if you eat cow, it takes 100 lbs of corn for you to gain 1
> lb, because it has to go through the cow first. IOW, eating predators is
> inefficient because you lose 90% of the mass for each link in the chain, and
> the only ones I can think of that we eat in the US are alligators (which is
> more of a novelty - you won't find them in your local supermarket) and fish
> (which are caught, not raised in farms).
>
> For me, I've never eaten dog, but would try it. And it does seem to be
> quite a waste to gas and incinerate all those animals at the SPCA - but
> we're so overloaded with food here, would it really make a difference if we
> fed them to people? And OT - they don't really gas them, they put them in a
> chamber and suck the air out of it so they suffocate (it's cheaper). It
> would be a lot more humane to shoot them in the head and feed them to
> someone.
We do have a lot of food here, so dog isn't in the
menu. Not in mine, nor any Fipinos I know of in
this country, but I would not hessitate nor would
I feel any guilt. Yes, I agree, it is inefficient
to raise a predators as consumable, this is not
the issue I am showing him. No one I know of does
this in the Philippines. Dogs in the wilds where
there isn't any effort made to raise them is
almost always the ones that get eaten there
anyway.
Of course hunting with a bumpered vehicle is the
favorite way to get a dog, hehehehe... very few
actually eat them, even if a restaurant posts
asucena in front, drinkers actually prefer goat
meat more than the "rrrruff" kind.
Tried alligator, its fine...I won't look for it
tho'.
Nathaniel Bates
come on down to the Southland and we'll bake a possum! (With sweet taters!)
N. Bates
Chris S. <van...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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tansong isda
>
> As a Southern white American, I think Balut would nauseate me. But hey ,
> come on down to the Southland and we'll bake a possum! (With sweet taters!)
> N. Bates
>
tansong isda
>
> Close! Thats "poke sallet". I AM impressed! Course, we gotta scramble some
> eggs in with em. And have a big pan of corn pone! For those who cant handle
> possum, we can substitute either frog legs or chitlins! Um um!!!
> N. Bates
>
Didn't know its spelled that way. Love chitlins,
reminds me of the way my mom makes pork
chitterlings cooked in coconut sauce...w/a little
vinegar. Ok, what about snake stakes, virginia
style! That'll turn your stomach around!
Hehehehehe....
Or snap turtle soup.
Here's a trivia for you,
Do people in the Philippines eat grits?
Only in the south.....Visayans eat rice with grits
mixed in.
Nathaniel Bates
eggs in with em. And have a big pan of corn pone! For those who cant handle
possum, we can substitute either frog legs or chitlins! Um um!!!
N. Bates
tansong isda <bab...@dipaparito.ito> wrote in message
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momoy
least this is why our farm hands eat dogs as "pulutan").
Food is quite expensive in this country especially for the majority of the
70 million Filipinos. A typical Filipino diet consists mostly of
carbohydrates (rice, corn, sweet potato, cassava) and some protein from
pork, beef, chicken and fish (which you have to buy).
Dog meat usually comes from stray dogs which we have lots of (which are
free). There are some who buy dogs (for eating) from willing owners but at
prices which are very cheap compared to traditional meats.
Although very few people eat dogs from where I come from, there are
provinces which consider dog dishes ("inazucenang aso" as they call it) as
a delicacy.
Kano Ako <kan...@lakefield.net> wrote in article
<7o5aai$1p5v$1...@news.inc.net>...
> In message <37A53B41...@ripco.com> - ronald <ron...@ripco.com>
> writes:
> ->
> ->Gopher wrote:
> ->>
> ->> Being an American, I have never eaten balut. But my wife has and
sometimes
> ->> still does. I eat full grown cooked chickens.
> ->> Dead is Dead. Why would you feel guilty?
> ->> Got to eat, Right? Just so happens that what you like to eat hasn't
been
> ->> hatched yet.
> ->> Tell your foreign friends to relax!
>to get a dog, but i'm
> ->afraid to get one and leave him in the back yard while i'm gone to
>
Nathaniel Bates
in the Southern U.S. is very similar to life in the "provinces" in the
Phils.. Lots of poor people, many similar foods (i.e. "chicken feet", etc.),
even the occasional "out-house".
My last girlfriend was originally from General Santos, Mindanao, and she
felt right at home here in Tennessee. Sure, there are differences, but
enough similarities to make it "familiar". She was living in the northeast,
and she was worried about racism before she came here, as it is a commonly
held northern view that we Southerners are all racists. But when she was
warmly accepted by everyone here she found out about Southern Hospitality. I
see Filipinos in other parts of the country
crying about racism, and maybe its true, but I say, come to the Southland
and see for yourself, its a great place to live, even for minorities. Ft.
Campbell military base is only an hour away from me, lots of Filipinos and
Koreans, and you NEVER hear of any problems. Rarely is there any news of any
racial problems in the Southeast. Its always up north or out west. Pinoy are
welcome, but Id especially like to see a few million Pinay move down here!
*snicker*
N. Bates
tansong isda <bab...@dipaparito.ito> wrote in message
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> Nathaniel Bates wrote:
> >
> > Close! Thats "poke sallet". I AM impressed! Course, we gotta scramble
some
> > eggs in with em. And have a big pan of corn pone! For those who cant
handle
> > possum, we can substitute either frog legs or chitlins! Um um!!!
> > N. Bates
> >
>
tansong isda
I used to live in the Carolinas, and have
travelled through out. Sometimes, you have to look
through different eyes to see the prejudices, it
does exist. There are plenty of places I was not
served(restaurants and bars), got thrown out of an
apartment w/c is mostly white (the only black was
a former Wahington Redskins back<I forgot>)
because I have black friends...do not fool
yourself, it does exist even up North(Yankee
towns)...that is why I'd rather be here in Good
ol' Southern Cal.
Nathaniel Bates
that the South is not the evil place that the north would like everyone to
think it is. When you do find racism here in the South, it is primarily
directed toward blacks. As far as I know, Asians are well accepted here, no
problem. The "white" word on the street is, Asians are smart and
hardworking.
Now, Mexicans are another story. They are not so welcome, mainly I think,
because so many are here illegally. Racism is not about skin color, as the
government would have you believe, but more about behaviour and money. Look
at the recent thing between the Serbs and ethnic Albanians. It was racially
motivated, yet I couldnt tell who was who. They all looked like the same
kind of people to me. I think that whole thing was about money.
This is getting too long, and dont have a thing to do with eating Balut!
N. Bates
tansong isda <bab...@dipaparito.ito> wrote in message
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R M Abacan
Nathaniel Bates wrote:
> As a Southern white American, I think Balut would nauseate me. But hey ,
> come on down to the Southland and we'll bake a possum! (With sweet taters!)
> N. Bates
>
Nathaniel Bates
bumpersticker, "cat, another white meat"!
YEEEE HAAAA !!!!!!
N. Bates
R M Abacan <rab...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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Nathaniel Bates
And why is the news server constantly screwed up? No telling where this post
will end up. Its supposed to be part of a thread, but it will probably show
up as a new post, and make absolutely no sense.
N. Bates
Edgar Kabayo <egayk...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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RAULIO
if that egg is close to hatching, Ill eat it up and drinkl the juice like
theres no water left on Earth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PNepo01
cambodian stores, and we even have a choice of chicken or duck balut? say mo?
pp
Stephen Roach
> > i gotta tell you, you dog eaters should feel guilty about what you're
> > doing, if you had any conscience. i'm going to ask you one more time:
> > GET THE DOGS OUT OF THE FOOD CHAIN, FOLKS.
Missed the original post so this is a reply to a reply.
Personally, as a foreigner, I guess I have some racial memory thing,
slight distaste for people eating dogs. Mans best friend and all that.
But really, if you step back and look at it intellectually, there is
no essential difference between dog and pig (lechon baboy - yum). I
have tried dog once an it wasn't all that bad, perhaps a little
strong. I do object to the way they are slaughtered (beaten to death)
but then all that screaming pigs make when their throats have been
slit is hardly a triumph for animal rights.
Unless you can show some essential difference between dog pica-pica
and McDonalds, I don't really think you can comment on this.
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ronald
>
> > > i gotta tell you, you dog eaters should feel guilty about what you're
> > > doing, if you had any conscience. i'm going to ask you one more time:
> > > GET THE DOGS OUT OF THE FOOD CHAIN, FOLKS.
>
> Missed the original post so this is a reply to a reply.
>
> Personally, as a foreigner, I guess I have some racial memory thing,
> slight distaste for people eating dogs. Mans best friend and all that.
> But really, if you step back and look at it intellectually, there is
> no essential difference between dog and pig (lechon baboy - yum). I
> have tried dog once an it wasn't all that bad, perhaps a little
> strong. I do object to the way they are slaughtered (beaten to death)
> but then all that screaming pigs make when their throats have been
> slit is hardly a triumph for animal rights.
>
> Unless you can show some essential difference between dog pica-pica
> and McDonalds, I don't really think you can comment on this.
>
look man, it's bad enough that they're serving horse meat at
mcdonald's; i am *not* going to take to eating four-legged friends.
but again, to take it out of the sociological context and into the
natural food chain, there are predatory animals and prey animals.
the natural food chain is that predators eat prey animals, not
other predators (at least among land animals). consistent with
this natural food chain relationship, prey animals tend to have
greater fecundity so that they can replace losses to predators.
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dog! Get real. A hog is in every way far superior to a dog. Much more
efficient. How ya gonna fatten a dog? Give me a 400 pound hog over a damned
old mangy, rabies infested dog any day of the week. Now, I dont care if some
people wanna eat shit, just dont try to tell me its equal to a big slice of
ham or a thick juicy beef steak!
N. Bates
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Nathaniel Bates
biscuits!
N. Bates
John William Allen <john...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Yuck its absolutely gross! I've had it once & never again. You guys eat
> some really wierd stuff. I'm fed up with rice , where are my potatoes?
>
> RAULIO <rau...@aol.com> wrote in message
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John William Allen
tikoy
Filipinos eat balut because they're exotic, medicinal and with good
taste to boot...what's so wrong with eating a young duck when we all
eat grown-up ones.
besides, if other people hate it...good, strong demand might xcause
scarcity.
tikoy
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tansong isda
That is not true, and this is also a stupid
argument....see your dog's sinewy muscles bit
between my teeth? I'm using a toothpick now to
take it out!
tansong isda
>
> No difference between a hog and a dog? I never saw a plump, juicy ham on a
> dog! Get real. A hog is in every way far superior to a dog. Much more
> efficient. How ya gonna fatten a dog? Give me a 400 pound hog over a damned
> old mangy, rabies infested dog any day of the week. Now, I dont care if some
> people wanna eat shit, just dont try to tell me its equal to a big slice of
> ham or a thick juicy beef steak!
> N. Bates
>
There's no difference to one eating. Food is food.
Ido
daughter only ate the yoke leaving me just the chick. i don't think i
will eating it for the next few years.
but i would like to eat the "one-day-old-chick" deep fried again, i
haven't eaten one for the last eleven years.
Nathaniel Bates
between a good steak and a dry, tough one.
N. Bates
tansong isda <bab...@dipaparito.ito> wrote in message
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tansong isda
>
> No difference to the one eating? Well, I sure can tell the difference
> between a good steak and a dry, tough one.
> N. Bates
>
I like my doggie stew better than dead cows! You
are absolutely right!
But to the hungry, they are both food. And you
have never tried it, so shut up!
Georg J. Cheatham
"tikoy" <pin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>europeans eat snails and they are called gourmet...
>Filipinos eat balut because they're exotic, medicinal and with good
>taste to boot...what's so wrong with eating a young duck when we all
>eat grown-up ones.
>besides, if other people hate it...good, strong demand might xcause
>scarcity.
>
>tikoy
A balut is a well boiled developed duck embryo, and the first time I ate it,
well, I felt really strange. If it is only one day old, you might just have
a hard boiled egg.
I like the ones with meat to it. After all, yoke is colesterol. I like it
when there is already a few feathers starting to develope, and the head is
formed. But, it has to be well boiled.
I think, I almost ate one once, that was not completely cooked. Not
enjoyable.
Stephen Roach
<nba...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> No difference between a hog and a dog? I never saw a plump, juicy ham on a
> dog! Get real. A hog is in every way far superior to a dog. Much more
> efficient. How ya gonna fatten a dog? Give me a 400 pound hog over a damned
> old mangy, rabies infested dog any day of the week. Now, I dont care if some
> people wanna eat shit, just dont try to tell me its equal to a big slice of
> ham or a thick juicy beef steak!
> N. Bates
>
I wasn't talking about the taste. They are completely different. It's
like comparing chicken with beef. Dog tastes good but in its own way.
Nathaniel Bates
No, Ive never eaten aso. Dont plan to. Go back and read my posts. I didnt
judge anybody or say it was wrong. I just like beef. And then pork and
chicken. Now, Ive been nice I think, but I want to match your two words to
me with two of my own for you.
Fuck you.
N. Bates
tansong isda <bab...@dipaparito.ito> wrote in message
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Amy Reyes
<bab...@dipaparito.ito> wrote:
>Dogs actually taste better than the sweetest
>venison, no comparison to beef or chicken.
>Thanks....
>I like fucks...
lol, nice comeback.
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Amy Reyes
>Now now, tansong, really, "shut up"? I didnt judge you.
***** Well you know what they say the kind of reactions we
get from other people are due to the type of actions we
give to them.
>Eat what you like.
Ditto! But there are those who makes it their business to
thumb their nose at others who eats or do things that may
be different to the norms.
>No, Ive never eaten aso.
What can i say your missing out on alot then.
>Dont plan to.
Entirely your choice.
I didnt
>judge anybody or say it was wrong.
Sure you didn't you just can't stand it when other people
do things differently from you.
I just like beef. And then pork and
>chicken.
****** As i've said it's your choice but don't go around
complaining and whinging what other peoples choice are.
>Now, Ive been nice I think,
Nah, me thinks you doth protest too much.
>but I want to match your two words to
>me with two of my own for you.
>Fuck you.
I think he looks forward to it with his wife.
>
>
>
>tansong isda <bab...@dipaparito.ito> wrote in message
>news:37C0CC23...@dipaparito.ito...
>> Nathaniel Bates wrote:
>> >
>> > No difference to the one eating? Well, I sure can tell
the difference
>> > between a good steak and a dry, tough one.
>> > N. Bates
>> >
>>
>> I like my doggie stew better than dead cows! You
>> are absolutely right!
>> But to the hungry, they are both food. And you
>> have never tried it, so shut up!
>
>
>
Andy
Fido. Do I just let myself die and let Fido eat me or do I start a fire,
find a spit and whistle for Fido.
Pass the kethup.
Andy
Alex Fabros
Andy wrote in message ...
:Lets see. I am starving and there is no food. All there is, is me and
Now this is one honest statement. Now if you had kethup pour some in a bowl,
add hot water, a little salt and pepper and you'll have tomato dog soup.
Andy
Alex Fabros <FAB...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Andy
tansong isda
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
tansong isda
>
>
> I think he looks forward to it with his wife.
>
Amy Reyes
picture.
Amy Reyes
of the extraordinary, seen that movie called Alive with
Ethan Hawke which was based on a true story. i won't go
into details just in case some ones about to have breakfast.
Worldboy
would one be inhummane and let him strave to death or
end his misery?
Amy Reyes
messages that i send goes to the wrong person, so apologies.
In article <37C316A7...@hotmail.com>, Worldboy
finally somebody sees my point of view now i'm outta this
thread.
Worldboy
Amy Reyes
Hmm snide little remarks how *clever* and *brave* of you
little bigot! frankly Nabi/worldboy/ido/subas bala, i don't
really give a damn what a bunch of unemployed dorks like
you thinks of me in usenet. If you have a problem with my
kicking racist and sexist butts and educating little bigots
like *you*, well tough! your like a fart really best to
just cover the nose whilst the stink passes!
Worldboy
What the hell did I do!?
How am I racist
Sexist
OR being a bigot!
DID YOU JUST USE MY NAME SO YOU COULD
POST SOME CRAP ON THE INTERNET?!?!
i just said in some cases that may be the point.
'I JOINED IN LATE ONLY TO SAY SOMETHING IN A STRING
which i thought to be about DOGS
not some Sexist Racist crap.
DOGS.
I NEVER SAID
DOGS WHERE A DELICACY or
SOMETHING MORAL TO EAT or
CONDONE EATING DOGS!
HELL WITIT i never said EAT!
I just said let it have a decent death.
I never said
'go ahead and take a dog out of the street
and put it in your mouth!'
THAT WAS THE MOST RUDEST THING SOMEONE EVVVVERRRRRRR TOLD ME!
YOU LACK IMPECABLE TASTE OR ELOQUENSE.
imean:
I said the dog should die honorably and somehow somebody tells me:
Amy Reyes wrote:
>
> In article <37C37DD3...@hotmail.com>, Worldboy
> <r_wor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Only in desperation though. Get it?
> >
> Hmm snide little remarks how *clever* and *brave* of you
> LITTLE BIGOT frankly Nabi/WORLDBOY/ido/subas bala, i don't
> really give a damn what a bunch of UNEMPLOYED DORKS
> LIKE YOU thinks of me in usenet. If you have a problem with my
>
kicking racist and sexist butts and educating little bigots
> like *you*, well tough! your like a fart really best to
> just cover the nose whilst the stink passes!
WHAT DO PEOPLE THINK OF THIS!
shut up Amy Reyes, are u soooooooo
fuckin (excues me) STUPID that you cant
even read the crap I PUT UP! I ONLY
PUT UP two messages on the point. DID I
EVEN SAY 'AMY REYES this- AMY REYES THAT'
God! Get some help!
i dont even know u at all
so how do I know anything about yo
kicking some asses!
People! ISN'T THIS OUTRAGEOUS! I HAVE MY INTEGERETY
TO HOLD! WHO is outraged by this frauduent libel!?
Speak up!
Penny Richter
the Internet! I LOVE IT!!! :D
JT of Oz <Johnn...@Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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> Amy Reyes wrote in message
<2bfdfea4...@usw-ex0102-011.remarq.com>...
> ><snipped shits and lies of a SUBHUMAN BIGOT!>
> >
> >Hah! you gone berserk up there in your post asshole, good!
> >Why don't you do the society a favor stupid idiot and get
> >into a car accident?!?!? be useful for a change you dumb
> >little faggot!!!
> >
>
> -------------
> Naks, naman, Ate Amy, ha. Mukhang iyong Flame-now-Ligaw-later na pa-epek
ng
> mga trolls na ito ay tumatalab sa iyo, ha. Ilan na ba ang nagyayang
> magpakasal sa iyo sa email?
>
> --
> Talk to me at
> Johnn...@Hotmail.Com
>
>
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