Mongoose, a Filipino Martial Art and other Asian martial art form.
Isla Maia
very looonnngggg time. :D)))
I have one post to put up today and I thought I'd dip myself back into
SCF to test the waters these days ;)
I was discussing the film Bourne Identity and the Filipino martial art
used by Matt Damon with friends here in Europe recently. I thought it
was "kali" in motion, but a Filipino friend who knows this style
"mongoose" ... and that's new to me, mentioned that mongoose is a more
powerful form of martial art and it could be "mongoose" used in the
film.
Isn't that a weird name to call a martial art form?!
Does anyone have any experience with the Filipino martial arts, or know
of the styles available these days?
--isla maia
my blog is up is you want to write in and comment: vinavc.blogspot.com
Sylvia Knörr
"Isla Maia" <Isla...@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1142360903.3...@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Hello everyone, and I hope regular SCFers are still around, it's been a
> very looonnngggg time. :D)))
Hi Isla Maia, yes, it must be more than a year since you last dropped by.
Against all odds, some of us are still alive. :-))
> I have one post to put up today and I thought I'd dip myself back into
> SCF to test the waters these days ;)
Water's fine! Undress and jump in! ;-)
> I was discussing the film Bourne Identity and the Filipino martial art
> used by Matt Damon with friends here in Europe recently. I thought it
> was "kali" in motion, but a Filipino friend who knows this style
> "mongoose" ... and that's new to me, mentioned that mongoose is a more
> powerful form of martial art and it could be "mongoose" used in the
> film.
>
> Isn't that a weird name to call a martial art form?!
>
> Does anyone have any experience with the Filipino martial arts, or know
> of the styles available these days?
Sorry, no. Never heard about "mongoose". I only found "mongoose" mentioned
on a Kung Fu site:
http://www.shengchikungfu.com/history.htm
"During this time, Da Mo, traveled the Wu Tang Mountains (Not to be
confused with Wu Dang, the root of Wu Shu). He chose five disciples worthy
of learning the full art of Law Hong Gung, or the monks martial way. He
taught the seven animal systems known for their balanced motion and fighting
ability. Each of these animals comprised a complete fighting system and
combined they formed the most powerful fighting system ever known to man.
These animals are: The bear, the tiger, the mongoose, the crane, the mantis,
the cobra, and the dragon."
Until that, I only knew kali and eskrima.
Marital Arts Piggy
Isla Maia
Well the "mongoose" subject, when it was brought up, confused me a bit
as I've never heard it exist before. But the Filipino guys here seem
to have studied it in three forms, and they were comparing styles. One
even brought a DVD of the forms from a Filipino master to watch the
form movement with all the other Filipino guys.
I'm told it's a very deadly form of martial arts and meant as a "strike
to kill" with every move they take. Very fast, very hard. I was
surprised to learn it's actually Filipino and combines various
techniques from other martial art forms, but only the best and most
effective techniques.
The name got to me and I thought everyone was joking when I asked them
what was the most deadly martial art form in the Philippines.
On web research, the one I've come across that explains more is this:
http://www.yawyan.com/aboutus.htm but that confuses me as I'm not sure
if yawyan and mongoose are one and the same.
I'll be back in Manila in April so I can find out from there.
There's actually a lot more Filipino style martial arts, kali and
eskrima, it's interesting discovering them.
--isla maia
LeeBat
>Hello everyone, and I hope regular SCFers are still around, it's been a
>very looonnngggg time. :D)))
Hi, v. Long time no hear. Hope all is well.
>I have one post to put up today and I thought I'd dip myself back into
>SCF to test the waters these days ;)
Kinda boring. Lots of political talk. But it'll change.
LeeBat
always does .......
rv
the kali/eskrima arts. read it in a pinoy website. checked out yawyan
in the 80s and used to go to their full-contact matches in manila (too
old now :-). very deadly and efficient. they have a gym at quiapo and
along shaw blvd. (check out the punching bag made up abaca rope). most
of those who learned yawyan also do kali/eskrima so both are always
changing and adaptive. then they also do at times, pekita tursi, the
pinoy knife fighting technique. check out the filipino martial arts
(fma) website. they have a regular e-newsletter. many fil-am and
fil-canadian gropups. heard master nap is frail these
days....regards.-- rv
tumbaga
Kali is really sword fighting without the sword, it evolved from
colonial masters, Spain removing the swords, eskrima is with the swords.
Both styles are related then. Nice to find you posting again.
_
joek...@gmail.com
tumbaga wrote:
> >
>
> Kali is really sword fighting without the sword, it evolved from
> colonial masters, Spain removing the swords, eskrima is with the swords.
>
> Both styles are related then. Nice to find you posting again.
Mongoose sounds like the school founded by one of Bruce Lee's students
(can't remember her name)
tumbaga
Probably, Filipino style had been around longer than the name. The word
was coined here in the US by afficionados since the cannot describe it
it one word. It was done only by a select few and a big secret while
Spaniards were around.
One of the form that came from it is arnis or stick fighting. Kali
introduced other weaponry, and that developed mostly in the US.
Sylvia Knörr
> Hey Sylvia! You're a survivor! Have the boys been nice to you?
I have no complaints whatsoever. They send me fresh flowers and pralines on
a daily basis. ;-)
What about you? Where have you been all the last months?
I suppose that "mongoose" is pretty new, or the label is new - in any other
case it should be possible to find informations via google search. Let's see
what you find out on your Manila trip. Do you plan to practice martial arts?
Sticks And Blades Piggy
Isla Maia
Do you think yawyan is "mongoose"? If you say it's very deadly and
efficient, they must be one and the same. Could you give me the
address of their gym? I don't know why, but out of all the sports and
exercises promoted - I think yoga is "in" these days - I'm really more
into "contact sport" and I like doing something with a "purpose". I
also love the movement of the stick fighting, another movie with
Antonio Banderas and Lucy Liu <sp> from the Charlie Angels, showed that
in motion.
What's the website of FMA?
Thank you for the information!
--isla maia
Isla Maia
longer stick, Japanese style, the one where you wear a helmet to
protect yourself. (Gosh, I can't think what it's called now and I'm too
lazy to research. I'm down with gastro so doing all my writing at home
until I'm better.)
But I love the way those two sticks moved around in one movie, it's so
cool! And these days with all the movies coming out where the women
seem to "kick ass" and project control, it might be a message for us
girls to start learning something interesting not only as an exercise
but a self-defence thing. Besides, aren't Pinays medyo "masculine and
strong" from our past as a "matriarchal society"?
I almost had a major problem on the train recently when nine Arab boys
(unfortunately, they were Arabs) came into my compartment when I was
alone and started to muck around. I was so annoyed and wanted to hit
them all, but that would have been stupid. So when they least expected
it, I dashed out quickly and tucked myself between two guys in the next
compartment. It's safer to stay quiet even when your blood's boiling
for a fight.
Hiya, Tanso! Now you make me feel at "home" back in SCF!
--isla maia
Isla Maia
jealous, all I got from them in the early days was a lot of flame.
:D)))
It was shocking for me then, but heck, if you wanna play with the boys,
you play by their rules ...
I've been buried in work as usual, but I'm doing just too much now,
even though I love what I do, and I've been told to keep everyone I
know informed, at least have something up so I can be "tracked" ...
thus the "blog". It's okay for me to write and do that when I'm not
travelling. I have 2 weeks to sit put and put things together, but once
I hit the road, mamamia! It's like ... has it been two years na since
I last posted?!
On practising martial arts, I used to do that when I was younger as an
exercise form, and I loved it, but I don't exercise much these days and
I would like to go back to kicking a punching bag now :D Just to
release some stress and frustration ... better than hitting a real
person.
There's this interesting thing on the BBC about the level of
"testosterone" a man and a woman has - you have to compare your "ring"
and your "index" finger and note the length. If your ring finger is
longer than your index finger, you've got more "testosterone" in you.
I guess that's the reason why I'm into "boy" things. :D)))
--isla maia
Isla Maia
never-ending story.
But it's nice to see you here still, sweety, are you well yourself?
--isla maia
Cheeze
Isla Maia wrote:
> I was playing around with the idea of taking the lessons with the
> longer stick, Japanese style, the one where you wear a helmet to
> protect yourself. (Gosh, I can't think what it's called now and I'm too
> lazy to research. I'm down with gastro so doing all my writing at home
> until I'm better.)
>
Hi there! I don't think we've been introduced but I'm a newly acquired
regular. The manners of the people here! Really! :)
And you are probably thinking of Kendo!
rv
hi, here's the lastest newsletter from FMA
http://www.fmadigest.com/Issues/special-issues/2006/Special-Issue_WEKAF.pdf
their website and contact details are:
Publisher
FMAdigest
1297 Eider Cir.
Fallon, NV 89406
[775] 423-3253
you can request for back issues (e-files).
note though that there are many pinoy styles, sayoc kali, balintawak,
ilustrisimo, canete, bakbakan... i'm not an expert, my friends are. my
interest is in pinoy culture lang. the masters used to hang out in
luneta.
the nice thing with pinoy martial arts is that they keep on
incorporating styles so kali goes with knife fighting and yawyan etc.
they even imported grazie jujistsu of ufc fame recently to manila..
on the term kali, the pinoys in the north america are using this malay
(?) term to de-hispanize the martial art terms. i think bot jocano of
u.p. anthro wrote an article on this a few years ago...
i heard also that the phils has a champion muay thai team practicing
out of baguio. the buzz though is that most of the fighters were
formerly yawyan...
last, i think if we want to promote pinoy culture, we should not only
show the tinikling but also the pinoy martial arts- para grace and
toughness! in the u.s. and canada, the drills and methods are all in
filipino...
best-- RV
Isla Maia
articles "Kalantiaw, the Hoax"
(http://www.mts.net/~pmorrow/kalant_e.htm) and "A New Paradigm" which
seems to quote a compilation on "Arnis - Reflections on the History and
Development of the Filipino Martial Arts". Interesting read.
I'd like to study and write up later on the difference between the
Filipino Martial Arts since you've brought up a number of styles I'm
not familiar with. "Martial Arts" actually is part of a nation's
"culture" as I don't suppose it's related to politics, unless we bring
in the use of martial arts for political purposes, like the Boxers
Revolution in the history of China. :)
It's true, the styles seem to evolve and incorporate what's effective
so the form becomes stronger and effective when it comes to
self-defence and you really don't want to loose out. It kills me all
the time to watch these thrillers where the fight scene just goes on
and on, or bullets are flying everyone and the hero or the villain's
not getting shot. I guess in a real life scenario, you just want to
finish the person as fast as possible or put them down effectively so
you don't waste energy. Never know if someone else will spring up from
behinnd. Gosh, I'm feeling the effect of too much movies!
There's this Thai, Tony Jaa, who does awesome martial arts and I'm
always cringing when I watch his movies. The first one I saw,
"Ong-Bak: Muy Thai Warrior" was discussed among Hong Kong kungfu movie
friends of mine and they were praising it so much for the way the
scenes were taken, it's close to the real thing and Tony Jaa doesn't
use a "double" for his stunts.
The Japanese have their karate, the Korea their judo, the Chinese their
Kung Fu, the Thai their Muy Thai ... would the Philippines then have
Kali or Yaw Yan or Eskrima, or ...? I always feel that once a nation
has a fighting style that's known internationally, it draws admiration
and interest in the history of the people. Also goes to show that the
nationality is a "tough" one and had a form of special "martial arts"
because at one time, they were fearless and perhaps invincible
fighters.
I would love to capture the motion of our stick-fighting techniques in
slow motion, just to monitor the movement and grace.
Would you be able to put me in touch with someone who can introduce
Filipino Martial Arts to me when I get to Manila? I'd appreciate that
so much.
--isla maia
Isla Maia
who came from the Chinese stock, once away from the mainland and on
their own would value and esteem the culture they brought back with
them to Japan. Culture does, indeed, travel well.
I compare the "tea ceremony" between the Japanese and the Chinese.
With the Japanese there's a lot of elaboration, the preparation, the
gesture ... details. With the Chinese, since they're comfortable with
the knowledge that tea drinking and appreciation originated from them,
drink tea normally. But what they appreciate is the "taste" and the
"pedigree" of the tea, and this they focus on more than the actual
performance of preparing tea.
Although, there's still a bit of art involved in drinking exception tea
from China, and the special tea pots created for tea appreciation is an
amazing artform in itself.
With martial arts, probably the reason why Filipino Martial Arts isn't
appreciated until recently is because the martial art culture travelled
away from "home", and like the Japanese, once away from where it
originated, the artform becomes appreciated.
I, for one, noticed this when the Filipinos here brought the artform
with them and the French started to take note. They thought it was
"kungfu" and when they were told otherwise, they were amazed.
It's nice to know you're a regular at scf. I used to be one but got
"intimidated" by the boys here. Har har har!!! (Please don't hurt me,
please be gentle, I'll be a good girl this time ...) ;b
I'm timidly working my guts up to return now. AAaaaayyy-yaaah!
Mystifying mongoose yawning ... este ... yawyan chop! :D))))
--isla maia
Isla Maia
--isla maia
tumbaga
> I was playing around with the idea of taking the lessons with the
> longer stick, Japanese style, the one where you wear a helmet to
> protect yourself. (Gosh, I can't think what it's called now and I'm too
> lazy to research. I'm down with gastro so doing all my writing at home
> until I'm better.)
All that French food, you need bagoong and flavored suka!
Kendo, it is called kendo. Just like Kendo, Arnis is really practice for
using swords but it evolved into its own.
>
> But I love the way those two sticks moved around in one movie, it's so
> cool! And these days with all the movies coming out where the women
> seem to "kick ass" and project control, it might be a message for us
> girls to start learning something interesting not only as an exercise
> but a self-defence thing. Besides, aren't Pinays medyo "masculine and
> strong" from our past as a "matriarchal society"?
We are kinda matriarchal, as long as our wives let us be macho, we are
macho-MEN! I always say: "Two sticks are better than one".
>
> I almost had a major problem on the train recently when nine Arab boys
> (unfortunately, they were Arabs) came into my compartment when I was
> alone and started to muck around. I was so annoyed and wanted to hit
> them all, but that would have been stupid. So when they least expected
> it, I dashed out quickly and tucked myself between two guys in the next
> compartment. It's safer to stay quiet even when your blood's boiling
> for a fight.
>
> Hiya, Tanso! Now you make me feel at "home" back in SCF!
> --isla maia
>
You are always home here, and you know that!
Isla Maia
you've got absolutely nothing in your stomach. Two of those things and
I'm ready to make the loo my permanent home.
Ooooo yes and yummy, bagoong with green mangoes or kare-kare ... and
flavoured suka with chicharon ... I can indulge when I get back, but
will control as everyone's so concerned about "health food" these days.
I'm borderline "diabetes" and was introduced to this awful tasting
"ampalaya tea" but it worked wonders! I thought when I got to Hong
Kong and found some stores selling freeze dried "ampalaya" that they
were the same, but then found out in Manila that it's not the ampalaya
alone that works, it's the leaves that carry that something special for
the body.
As for "matriarchal" - it's not going to be easy for me to research
that and put things together although I know we touched on the subject
of the Philippines being a "matriarchal" society in the past in SCF. I
wrote about the Mosuo women in China in my blog and gave the link there
too, they're promoted as the "last matriarchal society" in the world.
But there must have been more than one society existing worldwide
that's "matriarchal".
And with the fame of the Mosuo women, came fame for the Mosuo men - it
seems they were highly desired by the women in China because they knew
how to treat women and were kindda "no-nonsense" type. I don't think
the Pinoys are quite like that, they're still good at romancing a woman
and convincing her to sleep with them, and it's not really like the
"hey baby, great ass, how about a walking marriage?"
Well, I was just "timidly" wondering if the "prodical" poster will
always have a home in scf, see ... but now that you've assured me,
let's hope I come back often ... :D))) I do check in when I can, even
if it's to read a bit of what's on everyone's mind at times.
--isla maia
tumbaga
> I shall always remember now never to take a dried apricot snack when
> you've got absolutely nothing in your stomach. Two of those things and
> I'm ready to make the loo my permanent home.
Apricot or its closest relatives like plum <prune> etc..
>
> Ooooo yes and yummy, bagoong with green mangoes or kare-kare ... and
> flavoured suka with chicharon ... I can indulge when I get back, but
> will control as everyone's so concerned about "health food" these days.
> I'm borderline "diabetes" and was introduced to this awful tasting
> "ampalaya tea" but it worked wonders! I thought when I got to Hong
> Kong and found some stores selling freeze dried "ampalaya" that they
> were the same, but then found out in Manila that it's not the ampalaya
> alone that works, it's the leaves that carry that something special for
> the body.
Dried ampalaya leaves are being sold as pills also.
>
> As for "matriarchal" - it's not going to be easy for me to research
> that and put things together although I know we touched on the subject
> of the Philippines being a "matriarchal" society in the past in SCF. I
> wrote about the Mosuo women in China in my blog and gave the link there
> too, they're promoted as the "last matriarchal society" in the world.
> But there must have been more than one society existing worldwide
> that's "matriarchal".
Several Amazon tribes were basically matriarchal in a sense where it is
the women who has the right to seek marriage and initiates sex.
>
> And with the fame of the Mosuo women, came fame for the Mosuo men - it
> seems they were highly desired by the women in China because they knew
> how to treat women and were kindda "no-nonsense" type. I don't think
> the Pinoys are quite like that, they're still good at romancing a woman
> and convincing her to sleep with them, and it's not really like the
> "hey baby, great ass, how about a walking marriage?"
>
> Well, I was just "timidly" wondering if the "prodical" poster will
> always have a home in scf, see ... but now that you've assured me,
> let's hope I come back often ... :D))) I do check in when I can, even
> if it's to read a bit of what's on everyone's mind at times.
>
> --isla maia
>
You were gone for almost a year now..
rv
eskrima buddy is ny-based. my bakbakan (bakbakan.com) instructor in
h.s. (20+ yrs. ago for a very short stint) is still in manila but not
as active.
if you check out
http://www.martialartsresource.com/filipino/filframe.htm, you'll also
find a lot of links, articles, resources on FMA. jocano's article is
there. wikepedia has a good overview on kali/eskrima:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskrima including a discussion on the term
kali.
another good link is http://www.visayanmartialarts.com/body.htm, while
http://mozcom.com/~deadlock/peak-l/guro.html has a handful of manila
based instructors.
check out the on-line discussion on judo, jiu-jitsu, yaw-yan, sarian,
pekita-tersii, kali etc. by folks from u.p., ateneo, la salle, the
q.c. and makati area:
http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41881. met the
guy they talk about a lot (alvin aguilar, the organizer of the
full-contact, ala ufc fights in manila) before. my bro knows him more.
my interest in fma is really the cultural aspects and its possible
impact on pinoy social movements...
the yaw-yan website you visited has the contact details. when you
contact them they know the fma community in metro manila.
good luck!
-rv
Dirty Sick Pig
> "Isla Maia" <Isla...@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:1142360903.3...@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Hello everyone, and I hope regular SCFers are still around, it's been a
>> very looonnngggg time. :D)))
>
> Hi Isla Maia, yes, it must be more than a year since you last dropped by.
> Against all odds, some of us are still alive. :-))
>
>> I have one post to put up today and I thought I'd dip myself back into
>> SCF to test the waters these days ;)
>
> Water's fine! Undress and jump in! ;-)
Yuck!
Sylvia Knörr
> Fresh flowers and pralines on a daily basis?! Now you're making me
> jealous, all I got from them in the early days was a lot of flame.
> :D)))
They have matured now. Well, SOME of them. ;-))
> It was shocking for me then, but heck, if you wanna play with the boys,
> you play by their rules ...
>
> I've been buried in work as usual, but I'm doing just too much now,
> even though I love what I do, and I've been told to keep everyone I
> know informed, at least have something up so I can be "tracked" ...
> thus the "blog". It's okay for me to write and do that when I'm not
> travelling. I have 2 weeks to sit put and put things together, but once
> I hit the road, mamamia! It's like ... has it been two years na since
> I last posted?!
Yes! Time flies for those who are busy.
> On practising martial arts, I used to do that when I was younger as an
> exercise form, and I loved it, but I don't exercise much these days and
> I would like to go back to kicking a punching bag now :D Just to
> release some stress and frustration ... better than hitting a real
> person.
>
> There's this interesting thing on the BBC about the level of
> "testosterone" a man and a woman has - you have to compare your "ring"
> and your "index" finger and note the length. If your ring finger is
> longer than your index finger, you've got more "testosterone" in you.
> I guess that's the reason why I'm into "boy" things. :D)))
Oops, I guess I'm a MAN!!! :-D
Transsexual Piggy
Dirty Sick Pig
> I was playing around with the idea of taking the lessons with the
> longer stick, Japanese style, the one where you wear a helmet to
> protect yourself. (Gosh, I can't think what it's called now and I'm too
> lazy to research. I'm down with gastro so doing all my writing at home
> until I'm better.)
Kendo = Sword fighting with bamboo swords.
Isla Maia
now we know how to get rid of a pigsa :D))))
tomasaco
looked like vina morales. ccomplete with flat abs and long hair
Dirty Sick Pig
Was that you trying to sink the Venetian gondola?
Pigzee
Isla Maia
heavens! where on earth did you trace that! yikes. :D)))
SigeSig...@gmail.com
MADAPAKA!
SINO ANG BINOBOLA MO, KENDO? KANTOT ANG ALAM MO LANG, IJOT!
=========================================================
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SAKIT BABOY MEKING LATS OF FRENS IN SCF. DEY AR 'KA LEEBAT AND ????
ULOL! SKITSO! PUTANG INA MO!
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Isla Maia
Just in the mood this morning to question silly things like the origin
of the word "good bye" and what "bye" means.
Thanks for the info, I'll do the follow-up when I get to Manila next
month,
--isla maia
Isla Maia
Is this documented somewhere? And has anyone recently unearthed an
authorative documentation somewhere of the Philippines once having a
matriarchal society?
All I remember is that it's the men who tend to try to attract the
women in the old days, and that they even went as far as having these
small ivory (or was it ivory?! - gawd, my memory's bad this morning!)
ball implants in their penis to guarantee sexual pleasure.
--isla maia
Isla Maia
waistline, these days. "vina morales" is too muscular for my liking, i
love that she's a great dancer and into it, but not when she focuses on
too much body-building and definitions.
i tend to appreciate more softness in lines with women.
--isla maia
Dirty Sick Pig
Ijotik Pig
Dirty Sick Pig
Bwahawring Pig
Dirty Sick Pig
> my abs are flat and my hair's long, it's down now almost to my
> waistline, these days.
You have a waistline, these days?
> "vina morales" is too muscular for my liking, i
> love that she's a great dancer and into it, but not when she focuses on
> too much body-building and definitions.
>
> i tend to appreciate more softness in lines with women.
I tend to appreciate more soft women in line for my trough.
> --isla maia
Sigue-Sigue Sputnik Bernardo Songco Pig
SigeSig...@gmail.com
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" DIRTY SICK BIYA ", GALUNGGONG !
PUTANG - INA - MOH !
OLD - PART. HINDI NA TUMITIGAS ANG TITI MO ON-DEMAND.
MAG VIAGRA KA MUNA MADAPAKA, BAGO KA MAG - JAKOL ASS - HOLE !
I LIKE THAT...... IT RHYMEs - VIAGRA MADAPAKA, JAKOL ASS - HOLE !
DIG ? TIGIDIG SA PUWET NG BABOY.
PUTANG INA MOH ! GUSTO KONG KAUSAPIN SI LEEBAT NAMAN. NAPAKA
BORING MO BABOY BORE KAYA BORING. SU - WITCH PERSONALITY NAMAN.
NAKAKASAWA KA NA ! UTAK BIYA !
=============================================================
tumbaga
Well, this tribe in the Amazon is different, they even have a sex
festival. But it has changed already. I saw a TV special on it. National
Geographic.
joek...@gmail.com
Bye = pass
Good bye= good pass
when 2 strangers would meet while passing they would promise the other
a "good bye" meaning peaceful passage- thus assuring the other they
meant them no harm... later friends would do the same wishing each
other a peaceful trip or passage to where they were going.... welcome
back !!!
Joekerr
Dirty Sick Pig
to limit what she is doing. i say go girl . i say the same thing to my
daughter. if she want to learn boxing or ninjitsu . go for it . [
better to defend againts rapists boys if she happen to date one when
she becomes a teen ort in college. if she decides to become an
engineer or a cop more power.
Isla Maia
Italian language, their greeting "ciao" was derived from the extended
Venetian version of "schiavo suo" which means "your slave".
So "ciao" is actually a condensed version of "I am your servant, sir"
and was uttered when two people used to pass each other as well.
I've never been able to source the word "bye" though ...
--isla maia ;)
(humming the tune to "welcome back, kotter")
Isla Maia
--isla maia
(why am i drawn to discussing that three letter word in scf!) :D)))
Isla Maia
And your trough will always runneth over with all kinds of women ...
--isla maia
Sylvia Knörr
> Matriarchal Amazon tribes?!
>
> Is this documented somewhere? And has anyone recently unearthed an
> authorative documentation somewhere of the Philippines once having a
> matriarchal society?
I don't know about documentations, but for me the modern Philippine society
and the Tagalog language both display hints of a former matriarchal
structure.
> All I remember is that it's the men who tend to try to attract the
> women in the old days, and that they even went as far as having these
> small ivory (or was it ivory?! - gawd, my memory's bad this morning!)
Sea shell material?
> ball implants in their penis to guarantee sexual pleasure.
To care about women's pleasure might have been very wise. There's an
interesting theory:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-19960101-000028.html
A long read, but it may shed a new light on female orgasm and what it is
good for.
Life's Mysteries Piggy
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KobeWanKenobi
the same, they're actually different martial arts forms. Yaw-Yan was
derived from the phrase saYAW ng kamataYAN which literally means Dance
of Death.
There's also another lesser known martial art called Tracma which was
invented by Trobador Ramos, Sr. who urban legend says knocked-out Bruce
Lee in a sparring session. Whether its true or not will probably be
revealed by those who have access and interviews him. What's true is
that he was also among the extras in Bruce Lee's movies.
LeeBat
>To care about women's pleasure might have been very wise.
Wise? Not to care would be extremely estoopid.
> There's an interesting theory:
>http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-19960101-000028.html
>A long read, but it may shed a new light on female orgasm and what it is
>good for.
Hmmmm. Bery interesting indeed. Got a kick out of the following:
>Here's the cruelest part of Thornhill and Gangestad's findings:
>The males who most inspire high-sperm-retention orgasmic responses
>from their sexual partners don't invest more in their relationships than
>do other men. Studies show that symmetrical men have the shortest
>courtships before having sexual intercourse with the women they date.
>They invest the least money and time in them. And they cheat on their
>mates more often than guys with less well-balanced bodies. So much
>for the beleaguered bonding hypothesis, which wants us to believe that
>women with investing, caring mates will have the most orgasms.
Ah, but I knew this intuitively all along. Wimmen ( if only secretly)
are attracted to bad boys.
LeeBat
bilaterally symmetrical male (senior division)
Cheeze
LeeBat wrote:
>
> Ah, but I knew this intuitively all along. Wimmen ( if only secretly)
> are attracted to bad boys.
>
> LeeBat
> bilaterally symmetrical male (senior division)
Paraphrasing Jean Grey dumping bad guy Wolverine for good guy Scott
Summers in the movie X-men 2:
"Girls love the bad guys, but they marry the good guys."
And does this make Lolo Lee the baddest of them all?
LeeBat
>"Girls love the bad guys, but they marry the good guys."
>
>And does this make Lolo Lee the baddest of them all?
Ahhhh, I dunno, Cheeze.
I been married soooo many times, I guess it makes me one of the
goodest of guys.
<sigh>
LoloBat
mr nice guy ..........
Sylvia Knörr
"LeeBat" <Lee...@optonline.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:88h72259c6ucjeiki...@4ax.com...
> "Sylvia Knörr" <Sylvia.Kno...@t-online.de> wrote:
> >To care about women's pleasure might have been very wise.
> Wise? Not to care would be extremely estoopid.
Says the wise man...:-)
> > There's an interesting theory:
> >http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-19960101-000028.html
> >A long read, but it may shed a new light on female orgasm and what it is
> >good for.
> Hmmmm. Bery interesting indeed. Got a kick out of the following:
>
> >Here's the cruelest part of Thornhill and Gangestad's findings:
> >The males who most inspire high-sperm-retention orgasmic responses
> >from their sexual partners don't invest more in their relationships than
> >do other men. Studies show that symmetrical men have the shortest
> >courtships before having sexual intercourse with the women they date.
> >They invest the least money and time in them. And they cheat on their
> >mates more often than guys with less well-balanced bodies. So much
> >for the beleaguered bonding hypothesis, which wants us to believe that
> >women with investing, caring mates will have the most orgasms.
>
> Ah, but I knew this intuitively all along. Wimmen ( if only secretly)
> are attracted to bad boys.
Yes, life is unfair. :-)
> LeeBat
> bilaterally symmetrical male (senior division)
Hehehe...
Selective Piggy
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The "Death Art", thus its illegal and only highly disciplined individuals should learn this skill.
Practioners of Mongoose use a spiked "wedding ring" to maim their opponents and cause serious damage to veins in your neck, hands, arms, eyes, etc. Even if you were able to defeat your opponent, you will die due to loss of blood or tetanus.
Do not engage a mongoose master in CQB,
Rather use a gun instead for better results.
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