Many Asian American women harbor a pathological craving for abuse by white
men. A few years ago in my town there was a notorious Asian slut who
moved from one abusive white boyfriend to another until she finally found
one that clubbed her to death with a baseball bat.
-M.A.
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>Many Asian American women harbor a pathological craving for abuse by white
>men. A few years ago in my town there was a notorious Asian slut who
>moved from one abusive white boyfriend to another until she finally found
>one that clubbed her to death with a baseball bat.
And he taught you everything you know.
Imbuka
>male_au...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Many Asian American women harbor a pathological craving for abuse by white
>> men. A few years ago in my town there was a notorious Asian slut who
>> moved from one abusive white boyfriend to another until she finally found
>> one that clubbed her to death with a baseball bat.
>
Women often do that. It has nothing to do with race of those
involved. Maybe a woman in this NG can tell us why.
: Thats acting, no actor gets a heavan and earth role without the
: gtunt roles, did you see swartsinagers (sp?) first film?? I think
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Schwartzenegger. Believe it's German or Austrian for 'blacksmith'.
: it was a Brooklyn hercluese or something like that...
Pumping Iron: Education of a Bodybuilder. Arnold played himself.
Pretty lame acting. Decent movie, if you like bodybuilding.
: > Actually, she played a fair amount of non-stereotypical roles, but
: > it's also true that she gets offered a fair amount of crap. Same thing
: > with most actors in general, really, but it's more invidious with Asian
: > actors in that their roles are so constrained by stereotypical thinking.
: Yes when will they stop offering Arnold action movies, thats so
: steriotypical, they should have a movie in which despite his size
: he is a wimp...
Kindergarden Cop? Jingle Bells? I think he was a wimp in both those movies.
: i.e. he gets a comody here and there but he get
: crap roles, like Chen..
He's well-plugged into the Hollywood scene, I've read. Attends all the right
parties. And has a string of decent-grossing movies. So of course he
wouldn't get crap roles.
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> Vivian Chang <vch...@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
> > I think the reason a lot of Asians are bothered by Caucasian
> >male's preference for Asian woman has something to do with the stereotypes
> >of Asian women illustrated in Western culture.
> Agreed. I really cringe when I see someone write, "I just find
> Asian women sexier than white women." Ummm....hello??!?! How about things
> like personality, character and charm? Isn't most sexiness a matter of the
> brain, not the body???
To an extent, but just as I would not date the most beautifual
woman in the world if she was a bi**h, I would not date the nicest
if she were ass ugly. There is a happy medium somewhere.
About personal physical preferances, you are a lier if you say
you have non. If a man finds asian features attractive he does,
how is this different than finding a blond with big breast to be
the ideal??
> Those kind of statements make me suspicious that the speaker is
> buying more into the stereotypes than into the person.
Or they think the features are more attractive, dont tell me
you dont have a set of features you like..
> > They are usually portrayed
> >as sex toys to the "White men"--their sexiness coming from their exotic
> >looks and their femininity coming from obdientness, submissiveness, and
> >willingness to sacrifice herself for others(i.e. the man she loves).
This I agree with, this image is FAR from correct, most asian
woman I know may be slightly more reserved in public (SLIGHTLY),
but in private (a small group of friends or something) they are
every bit as assertive and aggressive as White and Black women..
> >Hollywood movies, like Susie Hwang's World, are in that mold; and until
> >recently the images of Asian women haven't ventured far from that ancient
> >mold. Chinese actress Joan Chen played mostly those classical Asian
> >female roles in American films in the 80's and only until in recent years
> >she got more substantial roles like the one in Oliver Stone's Heaven And
> >Earth(I think she did an excellent job there).
Thats acting, no actor gets a heavan and earth role without the
gtunt roles, did you see swartsinagers (sp?) first film?? I think
it was a Brooklyn hercluese or something like that...
> Actually, she played a fair amount of non-stereotypical roles, but
> it's also true that she gets offered a fair amount of crap. Same thing
> with most actors in general, really, but it's more invidious with Asian
> actors in that their roles are so constrained by stereotypical thinking.
Yes when will they stop offering Arnold action movies, thats so
steriotypical, they should have a movie in which despite his size
he is a wimp... i.e. he gets a comody here and there but he get
crap roles, like Chen..
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"Looks may get a man into bed once, but personality keeps them
there." Personal appearance is surface; it's what you do with them that
counts. Focussing on just the physical features, like the Asian feature
set, is a bit....narrow....
There's a reason why the called the brain the most erotic organ in
the body.
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> In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.970812...@joxer.acsu.buffalo.edu>,
> Timothy N Riordan <trio...@acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:
> >On 12 Aug 1997, R. Tang wrote:
> >
> >> Vivian Chang <vch...@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
> >> > I think the reason a lot of Asians are bothered by Caucasian
> >> >male's preference for Asian woman has something to do with the stereotypes
> >> >of Asian women illustrated in Western culture.
> >> Agreed. I really cringe when I see someone write, "I just find
> >> Asian women sexier than white women." Ummm....hello??!?! How about things
> >> like personality, character and charm? Isn't most sexiness a matter of the
> >> brain, not the body???
> >
> >To an extent, but just as I would not date the most beautifual
> >woman in the world if she was a bi**h, I would not date the nicest
> >if she were ass ugly. There is a happy medium somewhere.
>
> "Looks may get a man into bed once, but personality keeps them
> there." Personal appearance is surface; it's what you do with them that
> counts. Focussing on just the physical features, like the Asian feature
> set, is a bit....narrow....
I agree, thats what I was saying.. but to denie you have personal
physical preferances is a lie. It is always best to settle with
someone you could be a freind with as the lust will eventually fade..
No Filipina women are usually very caring to their white husband and
are very obedient. We learn to be satisfied with less.
That is why white men like filipinas.
They usually treat us better then Hong Kong Chinese men who hire
filipinas as domestic workers. When they go to restaurants in H.K.,
they ask us to take care of their children there and they don't even
invite us to eat with them. At the appartments and house they
reserve the old toilet room for us to live in. How thoughful they are.
Bun Mui
Agreed. I really cringe when I see someone write, "I just find
Asian women sexier than white women." Ummm....hello??!?! How about things
like personality, character and charm? Isn't most sexiness a matter of the
brain, not the body???
Those kind of statements make me suspicious that the speaker is
buying more into the stereotypes than into the person.
> They are usually portrayed
>as sex toys to the "White men"--their sexiness coming from their exotic
>looks and their femininity coming from obdientness, submissiveness, and
>willingness to sacrifice herself for others(i.e. the man she loves). Old
>Hollywood movies, like Susie Hwang's World, are in that mold; and until
>recently the images of Asian women haven't ventured far from that ancient
>mold. Chinese actress Joan Chen played mostly those classical Asian
>female roles in American films in the 80's and only until in recent years
>she got more substantial roles like the one in Oliver Stone's Heaven And
>Earth(I think she did an excellent job there).
Actually, she played a fair amount of non-stereotypical roles, but
it's also true that she gets offered a fair amount of crap. Same thing
with most actors in general, really, but it's more invidious with Asian
actors in that their roles are so constrained by stereotypical thinking.
> We now see actresses like
>Ming Na Wen(Mortal Combat, Single Guys) who play roles that Asian women,
>in US particularly, actually can identify something with. But that hasn't
>always been the case.
I see this happening more with women than men (hell, I can tell of
stories of demeaning treatement of Asian male actors; a friend of mine has
a deep, resonant voice with no trace of accent, he certainly doesn't
sound like a stereotypical Asian--but he's had his voice dubbed in several
times by other Asian actors WHO HAD ACCENTS).
> In article <Pine.SOL.3.95q.97081...@rac6.wam.umd.edu>,
> Vivian Chang <vch...@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
> > I think the reason a lot of Asians are bothered by Caucasian
> >male's preference for Asian woman has something to do with the stereotypes
> >of Asian women illustrated in Western culture.
>
> Agreed. I really cringe when I see someone write, "I just find
> Asian women sexier than white women." Ummm....hello??!?! How about things
> like personality, character and charm? Isn't most sexiness a matter of the
> brain, not the body???
>
> Those kind of statements make me suspicious that the speaker is
> buying more into the stereotypes than into the person.
Hey, I find a lot of Asian women pretty sexy because of their character,
personality, etc -- work hard, love family, value education, giving,
earnestness. Of course, there are sexy white women with these qualities
too.
Matthew
http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/msdolbow
> About personal physical preferances, you are a lier if you say
> you have non. If a man finds asian features attractive he does,
> how is this different than finding a blond with big breast to be
> the ideal??
>
> > Those kind of statements make me suspicious that the speaker is
> > buying more into the stereotypes than into the person.
>
> Or they think the features are more attractive, dont tell me
> you dont have a set of features you like..
>
> > > They are usually portrayed
> > >as sex toys to the "White men"--their sexiness coming from their exotic
> > >looks and their femininity coming from obdientness, submissiveness, and
> > >willingness to sacrifice herself for others(i.e. the man she loves).
>
> This I agree with, this image is FAR from correct, most asian
> woman I know may be slightly more reserved in public (SLIGHTLY),
> but in private (a small group of friends or something) they are
> every bit as assertive and aggressive as White and Black women..
>
Thank you Tim for joining in. I would agree with your assessment of the
"submissiveness" of Asian women (in general). During the aftermath of
the Vietnam war my mother had a chance to work with many refugee
families in finding them homes, jobs, etc. Whenever I returned from
leave I was always dragged along by my mother to be shown off to these
families (not that I minded, I managed to meet some really pretty
Vietnamese, Cambodian, and Thia girls). The thing is, I didn't find
these young ladies particular "docile or submissive". Their parents
were, of course, real "old world" but what I observed was that these
couples were real partners, and that they worked together in a framework
where the duties and responsibilities of husband and wife were clearly
defined, and understood. I suspect a lot of Westerners (Oky, my
stereotypes are showing) would look at these couples and read that the
wife was docile and submissive to her husband. I never though so,
myself. Certainly when I was "chasing" my future wife
in Rome I was given to understand early in our relationship that she
wasn't particularly submissive or docile. After we were married I had a
chance to meet with various american servicemen married to filipine
women and talk with them on a personel level, and I would venture to say
that I was not the only Ameican to marry a Filipina that wasn't
particularly "docile or
submissive".
And just on a partcular point of no intrest to anyone but me, I do find
Asian women features more attractive then others. In my own opinion 7
of the 10 most beautiful women I ever met were Asians. Chaio.
Mike
> I'm just curious about this phenomena. Why white men tend
> to like Filipino women? What do they see in them? And
> how about the reverse: Why Filipino women like white men?
> Does somebody have the answer?
It's mutual. White men like Pilipinas because they are drop dead cute,
look after their men and keep the house well. Pilipinas like white men
because they think we are handsome (looks in mirror in disbelief!),
look after their women and like the house kept well.
Now I know all this is flame bait, sooo, I am quite happy to discuss
this with any of you Pilipinos over a quiet drinky in, say, Makati one
evening and my girlfriend can explain it all to you in Tagalog
(including the bit about various ex-Pilipino boyfriends).
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> Because they fuck like rabbits.
Other positions too!
Asian women have tight snatches, too.
RC <Rwar...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<5st201$7...@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>...
>
> Asian women have tight snatches, too.
>
Not Malou Huang, she isn't! ROFL!
jt
MACOX01 <MAC...@prodigy.net> wrote in article
<33F27D...@prodigy.net>...
>
> What's the Rabbit position?
>
You get pulled by the ears!
JT
> Now, what I want to know is: are Filipinos a preferred ethnicity among
> the gay community? It seems like most of the discussion on this
> newsgroup focuses on heterosexuality.
>
> -joanna
>
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Well, it was supposed to be a thread about men-women relationships
(i.e.-heterosexual relationships) If you want to start a thread about
gay relationships, go right ahead. I can tell you a story about a gay
filipino I met in Rome, Italy, but since it wasn't of a sexual nature I
don't know if it would fit in your thread. Good luck, chaio Mike
It's logical.
Let's start with our premises:
Heterosexual men are a subset of men.
Heterosexual men like women
White men are a subset of men.
Heterosexual women are a subset of women.
Heterosexual women like men.
Filipino women are a subset of women.
So a white, heterosexual man likes women. Since Filipino women are
also women, it is possible that white, heterosexual men like Filipino
women.
Likewise, a Filipino, heterosexual woman likes men. Since white men
are also men, it is possible that Filipino, heterosexual women like
white men.
Now, if you want to know why certain groups of people prefer specific
groups of people as significant others, it is because you are
stereotyping and so are they. Not all white men prefer Filipino
women; not all Filipino women prefer white men. Filipino women are
preferred by individuals of all races, and white men are preferred by
individuals of all races as well.
Tikki tikki tembo-no sa rembo-chari bari ruchi-pip peri pembo
<call...@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote in article
<5svms4$5...@epic11.Stanford.EDU>...
>
> Now, what I want to know is: are Filipinos a preferred ethnicity among
> the gay community? It seems like most of the discussion on this
> newsgroup focuses on heterosexuality.
>
I don't know but maybe Ferdie LemonHead does. Hey Ferdie, "Sagana ka ba sa
kurot sa mga badaf diyan sa lugar ninyo?" ROFL!
Johnny
> Stephen Roach wrote:
> >
> > On 6 Aug 1997 09:45:06 GMT, "OAU" <vs...@happypost.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Because they fuck like rabbits.
> >
> > Other positions too!
>
> What's the Rabbit position?
Just checked the documentation.
There are several sub-classes to the rabbit position:
- Prone in or around the vicinity of a carrot field (best option
for a rabbit).
- Completely fucked up with bits of fur everywhere because you've
just met a:
- truck.
- farmer.
- Running around in circles 'cos:
- the mixamatosis makes you blind.
- the scientist makes you blind.
- Standing half in a hole 'cos Elmer just said 'Hewwo swewy wabbit'.
- Um, that's it really. Don't have much imagiation, rabbits.
Children, children...calm down. You are complicating something that is
essentially simple.
Personally I like a Filipina because I happened to fall in love with one.
Nuff said.
fr in fl
> On Wed, 06 Aug 1997 06:25:13 GMT, nos...@nospam.com (Chuy) wrote:
>
> > I'm just curious about this phenomena. Why white men tend
> > to like Filipino women? What do they see in them? And
> > how about the reverse: Why Filipino women like white men?
> > Does somebody have the answer?
>
> It's mutual. White men like Pilipinas because they are drop dead cute,
> look after their men and keep the house well. Pilipinas like white men
> because they think we are handsome (looks in mirror in disbelief!),
> look after their women and like the house kept well.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Tell my wife that last bit about me and she'd die laughing.
>
> Now I know all this is flame bait, sooo, I am quite happy to discuss
> this with any of you Pilipinos over a quiet drinky in, say, Makati one
> evening and my girlfriend can explain it all to you in Tagalog
> (including the bit about various ex-Pilipino boyfriends).
>
> ------------------------------------
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> Remove NOSPAM from address to reply.
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> myself. Certainly when I was "chasing" my future wife
> in Rome I was given to understand early in our relationship that she
> wasn't particularly submissive or docile. After we were married I had a
> chance to meet with various american servicemen married to filipine
> women and talk with them on a personel level, and I would venture to say
> that I was not the only Ameican to marry a Filipina that wasn't
> particularly "docile or
> submissive".
Anyone who courts an asian women on the basis they are
"submissive" deserves all they get - and it will be a lot.
> And just on a partcular point of no intrest to anyone but me, I do find
> Asian women features more attractive then others. In my own opinion 7
> of the 10 most beautiful women I ever met were Asians. Chaio.
> Mike
Sure, Some men like Blondes, some like redheads, some like the
looks of (some) Asian women. What's the fuss? When you get past looks,
its personality that counts.
>
> No Filipina women are usually very caring to their white husband and
> are very obedient. We learn to be satisfied with less.
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not in my experience, nor that of quite a few other Husbands of
Filipinas.
> That is why white men like filipinas.
> They usually treat us better then Hong Kong Chinese men who hire
Doesn't say much.
> filipinas as domestic workers. When they go to restaurants in H.K.,
> they ask us to take care of their children there and they don't even
> invite us to eat with them. At the appartments and house they
> reserve the old toilet room for us to live in. How thoughful they are.
>
> Bun Mui
You know it's funny, but I don't hear anyone asking why a white man would want
a Filipino man or vice-versa. Maybe this is just a bias of those asking the
question? Hmmm!
The rest is in their mindset. A unique "sass" not unlike latina women,
and more mannered and refined than most other ladies that I've
encountered (including whites, blacks, japanese, chinese, korean, sud
american, centro american, indian, y medio este). I suppose
communications is easier too, since most if not all Filipinas speak
English to some degree. Took me 2+ years in Japan before I had enough
language skill to get out and meet ladies with confidence.
/
Jose Martin
Just wondering.....
huan yuan wrote:
>
> Its simple facts. Thailand is ravaged by hiv and aids and other
> STD's. Japanese women rarely marry outside the race. Ect, ect.
>
> Flip women are the biggest commodity in mail-order bride markets.
>
>Could the answer be as simple as ........... Filipino women have more to
offer a white man
than a white womans does !!!
They generally have better morals , better attitude , and are less
threatening to us white
men . An added bonus is that there is much less chance of her cheating on
you or walking
out if/when things get tough .
Philipino girls today are like white women used to be 30 years ago !!!
>Good enough reason for me :)
Beautifully put! Salamat!
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Maybe it is simply because the Filipino girls still have the "old fashion" qualities that
many men still believe are important .
Is this a " mother image thing " ???? I wonder
Any way , It is my opinion that the majority of Filipino girls are simply more attractive
than "western" women , and you are less likely to lose your house as well !!!!
" History is an angel being blown backwards into the future "
Laurie Anderson , Strange Angels
Esklip wrote:
>
> Reply to whomever started this: excuse me, but what's the point?
>Its simple facts. Thailand is ravaged by hiv and aids and other
>STD's. Japanese women rarely marry outside the race. Ect, ect.
>
>Flip women are the biggest commodity in mail-order bride markets.
>
The difference between filipino/thai and japanese is due to economic
reasons. The first are poorer than japanese so prostitution and mail
order brides are more common than in richer japan.