Freddie Aguilar and April Boy Regino
Cheeze
I was really surfing the web for the correct lyrics of Anak for you to
translate but couldn't find it.
sarsi emmanuelle
Cheeze
sarsi emmanuelle wrote:
> has sylvia heard about coritha , sampaguita or asin?
Yeah she has to broaden her knowledge of Flip music. For some reason,
everybody in German speaking countries seem to know about "anak". I
have an Austrian Uncle who sang the german version to us.
patricia javier
and love for their kid future is universal.
i get the feeling thu that ka freddie has bob marley almost status
in some countries.
patricia javier
patricia javier
i think she will appreciate kiliti or bulaklak
Sylvia Knörr
"Cheeze" <csmar...@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Freuline Sylvia, an article on your favorite artist for you. :-)
>
http://journal.houseonahill.net/index.php/journal/entry/spiderman-2-freddie-
aguilar-april-boy-regino/
This is written in a lawyers' journal? Hmmm...
Hard to believe that anyone could NOT like Freddie Aguilar.
To quote:
[Him: "Or is it because you don't like Freddie Aguilar?"
Me: "Come to think of it, I never liked any of his work. Nor him."]
For me, it愀 just the other way 'round - come to think of it, I like ALL of
his songs. I like his voice, his lyrics, his looks - just EVERYTHING about
him. :-D
> I was really surfing the web for the correct lyrics of Anak for you to
> translate but couldn't find it.
Like most of the Filipinos I had to deal with, you are such a sweetheart!
Salamat sa hanapin!
Of course, the lyrics of "Anak" was the first Tagalog lyrics I ever read,
and it was the reason why I fell in love with the Tagalog language. (When I
first saw it, it was like "wow, what a BEAUTIFUL language!").
More to it, we translated it here on SCF a while ago, even the extended
version "Anak Epilog".
This song really changed my life in a way I never could foresee, but in a
very POSITIVE way, since Pinoy culture is the best thing I ever ran into.
:-)
So, when the lady of this blog says, "You know, despite the worldwide
popularity of Anak, it never appealed to me. It's sentimental, yes, but the
music and the lyrics are nothing to get excited about. It's like a soap
opera--it may hit close to home but still shallow. It lacks depth.", it is
lightyears away from how *I* perceive this song.
I love it because it is NOT the usual love song dedicated to a girl, it
deals with the relationship of mother and child. This is quite unusual in my
world, and it involves all the ups and downs that parents and children can
go through sometimes, and in the end there is harmony. I never heard a song
with a topic like that before, and it would be unthinkable in Germany for a
pop song.
For me, it was the door which lead me to a different world. The Pinoy
concept of FAMILY was something unknown for me, which almost scared me at
first, then attracted me, and now I feel like being part of it, and it feels
warm and joyful like coming home. Maybe this is the reason why I'd always
like to group hug you guys. :-))
Tuwang Piggy
Sylvia Knörr
"sarsi emmanuelle" <sylvi...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> has sylvia heard about coritha , sampaguita or asin?
Yes, like a stone you drop into a lake makes ever growing circles, after
knowing Freddie Aguilar my awareness of Pinoy music grew steadily. (With me
being the lake and Freddie being the stone which rocked it :-) )
I got a CD with duets with Freddie, and I love "Huwag" with Coritha, and
"Para sa iyo" with Sampaguita, and also "Ituloy ang Laban" with Nora Aunor.
Also got a few songs of Asin, which I also like. Yes, OPM is WONDERFUL! :-)
Singing Along Piggy
Sylvia Knörr
> sarsi emmanuelle wrote:
> > has sylvia heard about coritha , sampaguita or asin?
> Yeah she has to broaden her knowledge of Flip music.
Believe me, I am eagerly broadening my knowledge of OPM as much as I can!
:-))
> For some reason,
> everybody in German speaking countries seem to know about "anak". I
> have an Austrian Uncle who sang the german version to us.
The German version? <groan>
To translate "Anak" into German is like desecrating this song. German is NO
good language for singing.
Well, "Anak" was probably the *only* Tagalog song which ever could be heard
on the radio in German speaking countries. But alas, it愀 far from being
known to everyone here. I惴 still working on it. ;-)
Aggressive Promotion Tactics Piggy
Sylvia Knörr
"patricia javier" <sylvi...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> interesting. well the topic of the song which is the parents fear
> and love for their kid future is universal.
Your Pinoy mind makes you think it's universal, but like I just told in my
reply to Cheeze - this topic was unheard of in German or English songs I
knew before. There are zillions of songs about what happens between lovers,
but do you know of ANY non-Pinoy song with a similar topic as "Anak"? Zero!
> i get the feeling thu that ka freddie has bob marley almost status
> in some countries.
Maybe in the Philippines, but in Germany only few ever noticed him. Of
course, the percentage of those who know him increased dramatically in and
around my hometown Heidelberg. :-))
Full Volume Car Speakers Piggy
patricia javier
about that all the time.
patricia javier
tumbaga
> sylvia you havent heard of country western ? they talk or sing
> about that all the time.
>
Ahnold singing country & western?... arrrrgh!!!
TheChosenPig
> Like most of the Filipinos I had to deal with, you are such a sweetheart!
> Salamat sa hanapin!
> Of course, the lyrics of "Anak" was <snipped>
It's just a drinking song, ferchrissake!
TheChosenPig
> (With mebeing the lake and Freddie being the stone which rocked it
> :-) )
A lake with piranhas and renowlfish.
TheChosenPig
> The German version? <groan>
> To translate "Anak" into German is like desecrating this song. German is NO
> good language for singing.
What's wrong with Lili Marlene?
Sylvia Knörr
> sylvia you havent heard of country western ? they talk or sing
> about that all the time.
Really? Well, country & western is not my favorite music.
But then again, can you name ONE halfways popular American song with a
similar topic as "Anak"? I think they are pretty rare.
Believing In The Uniqueness Of OPM Piggy
Sylvia Knörr
"patricia javier" <sylvi...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> base on all that it is safe to assume you like accoustic?
You mean acoustic guitar? Yes, I love it, but I also love electric guitar.
Guitars are generally wonderful instruments and it seems the Philippines
have a high "guitar density" per square mile. Heh...:-)
One Guitar Per Capita Piggy
TheChosenPig
Pretty common, actually. My favorite begins with "You son of a b....!"
Seriously, country singers have written and sang about fatherly love
more than motherly love. I wonder why?
PatriarchOktoberfestschweine
Cheeze
You haven't heard Cat Steven's Father and Son?
Congenital Kano
"TheChosenPig" <drtys...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The one I've always wondered about was the Holly Dunn song, "Daddy's hands."
Exactly where *were* daddy's hands, sweatheart?
Incestuous Pig
Cheeze
Sylvia Knörr wrote:
> "Cheeze" <csmar...@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:1126928621....@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Freuline Sylvia, an article on your favorite artist for you. :-)
> >
> http://journal.houseonahill.net/index.php/journal/entry/spiderman-2-freddie-
> aguilar-april-boy-regino/
>
> This is written in a lawyers' journal? Hmmm...
> Hard to believe that anyone could NOT like Freddie Aguilar.
> To quote:
> [Him: "Or is it because you don't like Freddie Aguilar?"
> Me: "Come to think of it, I never liked any of his work. Nor him."]
> his songs. I like his voice, his lyrics, his looks - just EVERYTHING about
> him. :-D
>
> > I was really surfing the web for the correct lyrics of Anak for you to
> > translate but couldn't find it.
>
>
> Like most of the Filipinos I had to deal with, you are such a sweetheart!
> Salamat sa hanapin!
> Of course, the lyrics of "Anak" was the first Tagalog lyrics I ever read,
> and it was the reason why I fell in love with the Tagalog language. (When I
> first saw it, it was like "wow, what a BEAUTIFUL language!").
> More to it, we translated it here on SCF a while ago, even the extended
> version "Anak Epilog".
> This song really changed my life in a way I never could foresee, but in a
> very POSITIVE way, since Pinoy culture is the best thing I ever ran into.
> :-)
<snip>
Actually the lyrics I was looking for is not that you're probably
familiar with. It starts "Nang isilang ka sa mundong ito, laking galit
ng nanay mo, at ang kamay nila'y kinagat mo..." :-)
Its a parody of the entire song, we used to hear as kids. Can't seem
to find it anywhere, and I only remember a couple of lines.
Just JT
Sabi ni "Cheeze" <csmar...@gmail.com>:
> Actually the lyrics I was looking for is not that you're probably
> familiar with. It starts "Nang isilang ka sa mundong ito, laking galit
> ng nanay mo, at ang kamay nila'y kinagat mo..." :-)
>
> Its a parody of the entire song, we used to hear as kids. Can't seem
> to find it anywhere, and I only remember a couple of lines.
-----------------
You are referring to "Anak ng Kuwan" by Tito, Vic & Joey. Checkout the
Google SCF archives as I posted the full lyrics not too long ago.
--
AndMeinSchatzWasn'tAmusedByThemAll!
Cheeze
Hah! I found it! The translation was bad! :-)
kuwan=unmentionables???
patricia javier
my family visited her in your neck of the woods.
Just JT
>
> Hah! I found it! The translation was bad! :-)
Oh yeah? Can you offer a SUPERIOR translation? :-D
> kuwan=unmentionables???
--------------
What then? Watermelons? :-))
--
DalubDiPuedePakuwanMelonAkoE.
Sylvia Knörr
"TheChosenPig" <drtys...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Hmm, maybe the loneliness of the prairie?
Cowboy Piggy
Sylvia Knörr
>You haven't heard Cat Steven's Father and Son?
Okay, that's ONE song. Still I think "Anak" is special, it deals with the
relationship between son and MOTHER.
See what I mean? Gender roles are somewhat different in the Philippines, and
family harmony is very important. Maybe you never noticed the contrast with
Western family patterns because you were always INSIDE a Filipino family,
like a fish is inside the water. :-)
Swimming Piggy
Sylvia Knörr
> so you like santana. ? sis inlaw played santana all the time when
> my family visited her in your neck of the woods.
Yes, Santana is great, I got quite a collection of LPs and CDs of him. He's
an excellent guitarero, but he doesn't sing.
Freddie otoh is more a songwriter than a guitarist - although he knows how
to play the guitar, his voice is the more important part of his music. Did
he ever produce an instrumental song? I don't think so. He's got a message
to tell.
Listening Piggy
Sylvia Knörr
> Sylvia Knörr wrote:
> > (With me being the lake and Freddie being the stone which rocked it
> > :-) )
> A lake with piranhas and renowlfish.
And sturgeons and pigfish. ;-)
Isdang Piggy
Cheeze
What about that other song that goes "Cat's in the cradle and the
silver spoon..." something like that?
patricia javier
Dirty_Sick_Pig
> Freddie otoh is more a songwriter than a guitarist
He should stick to his strings. Songwriting takes talent.
> - although he knows how to play the guitar, his voice is the more
> important part of his music.
So is braying to an ass.
> Did he ever produce an instrumental song?
Yes. With a 55-gallon steel drum.
> I don't think so.
Agree. A steel drum isn't really an instrument.
> He's got a message to tell.
Michael Jackson is listening and will set the message to music.
--
"Beer is proof that God wants us to be happy..."
Dirty_Sick_Pig
Cowboy and country music are not the same.
Congenital Kano
"Cheeze" <csmar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Harry Chapin. Great guy, used to raise tons of money for lefty causes.
Died in a car wreck around 1981 IIRC. Back in the day when I was a lib I
went to his concerts every year.
WOLD Pig
Cheeze
Well I've never heard of a musician raising money for rightist causes.
The left has a monopoly on musical talent.
Cheeze
Well since "kuwan" means absolutely nothing anyway you should have left
it blank!
LeeBat
>Okay, that's ONE song. Still I think "Anak" is special, it deals with the
>relationship between son and MOTHER.
"Grandma's Hands", written and sung by Bill Withers back in the early
'70s.
LeeBat
but I don't have grandmaw anymore .....
Just JT
>
> Well since "kuwan" means absolutely nothing anyway you should have left
> it blank!
I believe the best translation of KUWAN is THINGAMAJIG. Thus:
Anak ng kuwan = Son of a thingamajig
:-D
--
DalubWhachamacallit?
Cheeze
And would you also count Que Sera Sera?
It is about a child asking questions to her mother.
LeeBat
>And would you also count Que Sera Sera?
>
>It is about a child asking questions to her mother.
Guess you'd have to ..... even tho it was sung by <blechh> Doris Day.
Gawd, I hated that song. Syrupy and cloying. One of the reasons I was
glad I turned to R&B.
Whew, Cheeze, you must be old! That song goes back to the '50s.
LoloBat
eben I can hardly remember ..... conpuse again
Congenital Kano
>
> Harry Chapin. Great guy, used to raise tons of money for lefty causes.
> Died in a car wreck around 1981 IIRC. Back in the day when I was a lib I
> went to his concerts every year.
>
> WOLD Pig
> Well I've never heard of a musician raising money for rightist causes.
> The left has a monopoly on musical talent.
Well, no. Go country, boy.
Play 'em backwards, you get yer dawg back, yer gurl back, and yer job back
Pig
Sylvia Knörr
> Sylvia Knörr wrote:
> > The German version? <groan>
> > To translate "Anak" into German is like desecrating this song. German is
NO
> > good language for singing.
> What's wrong with Lili Marlene?
Nothing wrong with songs in German language generally, but a German re-make
of a song in any other language is in 99% of all cases a deterioration.
According to this fact, a German "Anak" version must be a disaster.
Plugged Ear Piggy
Cheeze
Cmon everybody knows that song! I think probably it was in children
shows when I was young.
Just JT
The song "Que sera sera" was also revived by the Cursillo movement in the
60s. My Dad attended those three-day Christian revival thingies and I knew
the song by heart.
--
DalubOfCourseTheCursilloDidn'tDoSh*t
Cheeze
No? Okay, name one rightist musician? And who went to the Africa for
USA concert? :-)
Cheeze
So when your friends finally hear the song do they like it?
Tell them it sounds better while eating balut, sisig or papaitan. ;)
Cheeze
Reminds me what my teacher once said. Reading translations is like
chewing a gum that has already been chewed. :-)
tumbaga
What is the rightist cause?
1. There is no global warming.
tumbaga
Terrible song, Doris Day made it popular and that is why no one below
fifty would want to hear it, 'cept the cursillos crowd.
Just JT
Sabi ni "tumbaga" <ta...@hindiginto.ito>:
>
> Terrible song, Doris Day made it popular and that is why no one below
> fifty would want to hear it, 'cept the cursillos crowd.
The song is terrible and the message of the song is way way terrible. It is
your TYPICAL BAHALA NA attitude which is keeping many Flips from
progressing.
Whoever wrote that song should be dug up and fed to the pigs.
--
DalubGoGetterProActiveSumbitch
andrea del rosario
LeeBat
>What is the rightist cause?
>
>1. There is no global warming.
Close but no cigar.
The right says yes, there may be global warning but there is no
definitive proof that it is caused by greenhouse gases rather than by
naturally occurring long-term weather cycles.
LeeBat
living proof of un-natural cycles ......
LeeBat
>Cmon everybody knows that song! I think probably it was in children
>shows when I was young.
Oh, but how would I know?
Its not like I stop strangers in the street and ask if they're
familiar with that awful piece of sentimental tripe.
Well, maybe I do stop strangers on the street (tho you'll never
prove it) ...... but if I do, I assault them with far more interesting
matters.
LeeBat
latter day Diogenes .....
Congenital Kano
musical talent.
>>
>> Well, no. Go country, boy.
>>
>> Play 'em backwards, you get yer dawg back, yer gurl back, and yer job
>> back
>> Pig
>
> No? Okay, name one rightist musician? And who went to the Africa for
> USA concert? :-)
Virtually every country singer is conservative (excluding WIllie and the
Dixie Chicks).
You got guys like Toby Kieth (http://troops.wwe.com/) and Kenny Chesney
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4251388.stm) and Tim McGraw
(http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/08/31/katrina.concert/) and Alan Jackson
(http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/entertainment/nightlife/12597978.htm).
Country singers are not really big into supporting concerts like "Flush
American Dollars down some African Hellhole to fund Despot's Mansions in
Capri." They are more into support our troops concerts, USO work, and the
like.
"We are the Wierd Tour 2004" Pig
Congenital Kano
"LeeBat" <Lee...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> LeeBat
> latter day Diogenes .....
"Are you a true blond?"
"Come home with me, little gurl, and I'll show you my lamp" Pig
Sylvia Knörr
"Just JT" <Johnn...@Hotmale.Com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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What is the "Cursillo movement"? And what are "three-day Christian revival
thingies"?
Whatever May Be May Be Piggy
Sylvia Knörr
"andrea del rosario" <sylvi...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> eww its like cheeze admiting that his first gf is his cat
Maybe he likes them furry. ;-)
Catwoman Piggy
Cheeze
I like them balahibong pusa! ;)
tumbaga
So that means you can give up on trying to do something about it?
Sure, I know... natural cycle means take it and continue with that
lifestyle isn't it?
tumbaga
I agree, we should, that dumbfuck!
andrea del rosario
Dirty_Sick_Pig
Hell, yeah! Nice under a soaked Wicked Weasel!
DangerousTalk BachelorPig
--
"Beer is proof that God wants us to be happy..."
Congenital Kano
Just JT
>
> What is the "Cursillo movement"? And what are "three-day Christian revival
> thingies"?
The Cursillo is a three-day retreat for people to renew their Christian
faith. It's a three-day event of lecture, song and so forth. It was popular
in the sixties and early seventies but I have not heard of it today.
--
DalubPersonallyIt'sAllRubbishAndAWasteOfTime
Cheeze
You probably haven't heard of Couples for Christ. My parents made me
go to one of those retreats. I think they do have chapters in Oz.
Just JT
>
> You probably haven't heard of Couples for Christ. My parents made me
> go to one of those retreats. I think they do have chapters in Oz.
I certainly have heard of Couples for Christ. There's also Singles for
Christ (SFC) and Kids for Christ (KFC).
Personally, I value my weekend afternoon naps too much to waste my time on
such civic activities.
--
SiestasAreBetterThanHex
LeeBat
>> LeeBat
>> latter day Diogenes .....
>
>"Are you a true blond?"
>
>"Come home with me, little gurl, and I'll show you my lamp" Pig
Uh oh ...... following me around, huh?
Time to get out my blonde wig and yellow raincoat so's I can blend
anonymously into the crowd hanging around the schoolyard.
LeeBat
who was that masked man?
LeeBat
>LeeBat wrote:
>> The right says yes, there may be global warning but there is no
>> definitive proof that it is caused by greenhouse gases rather than by
>> naturally occurring long-term weather cycles.
>So that means you can give up on trying to do something about it?
>
>Sure, I know... natural cycle means take it and continue with that
>lifestyle isn't it?
Huh? Where did I say that? I offerred only the right's actual
definition, with no personal position one way or another.
I left that part to "Old Faithful" Randy, as I knew he would follow up
(and he did.)
LeeBat
I report, you decide .......
tumbaga
>
> "tumbaga" <ta...@hindiginto.ito <mailto:ta...@hindiginto.ito>> wrote in
> > LeeBat wrote:
> >
>
> A recent finding that Mars has been heating up
> no human emissions on Mars, what causes this? The answer would appear
> to be the biggest source of heat in the solar system, the Sun. If Mars
> is heating up without human intervention from solar activity, why would
> the Earth, which is about 70,000,000 km closer on average, not also
> experience a similar solar heating?
>
> I find myself with Blair on this - you cannot have artificial caps on
> growth for some nations and not others. You need to invest in
> technology and conservation to gradually lower the impact and - most
> controversially - share these technologies with competitor nations like
> China. But you do so in a way that doesn't cripple your economy while
> excluding other competitor nations.
>
> Oil Shale Pig
>
>
No one's asking to cripple anything, just to make arrangements for other
technologies of which the US nad the rest are capable of doing,
alternative source of energy.
Now, we know that natural forces in addition to human contribution, one
that no one can deny is doing all of these. You and I will pay for it,
now or later, later would cost more lives. Now, is cheaper. Really!
The conservative stance had always been like what you had placed down
above "economy". If you think about it, you really aren't giving up on
the economy by working for cooling the earth a bit.
Oh, the large part is the expansion of human settlements, into the
Amazons, China getting rid of bycicles and into cars.. etc.
Let us just kill more people, that is it. Makes some war. There are too
many humans.
tumbaga
And I know he would too. How do people know that this is not permanent?
No one knows, really. Another cycle people forgot, the shifting polarity
of the earth. This change also creates weird weather.
andrea del rosario
mansion is just another coincidence and the others more to come .
welcome to the pinas scenraio wherein yeaqr after year the govt
spend lots of money cleaning up . its just a the ory. dont worry
about it .
5 dollar per gallon for your suv?
Congenital Kano
"tumbaga" <ta...@hindiginto.ito> wrote in message
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>>
>
> No one's asking to cripple anything, just to make arrangements for other
> technologies of which the US nad the rest are capable of doing,
> alternative source of energy.
Read what Blair said at Gleneagles and after. The problem with a reduction
in emissions as dictated by artificial caps like Kyoto is that to meet them,
you have to do more than cut down driving a bit. You have to scrub the air
of factories, particularly plants that produce energy. This costs
billions - who to pay? The consumer, of course. Environmentalists just
don't comprehend market forces - if you make energy more expensive,
everything becomes more expensive.
Blair has *specifically* rejected a future Kyoto exactly because it will
inhibit economic growth, which translates into a better life for the people.
> Now, we know that natural forces in addition to human contribution, one
> that no one can deny is doing all of these. You and I will pay for it, now
> or later, later would cost more lives. Now, is cheaper. Really!
The real question is - how much is needed, if human emissions are really a
problem (compare human emissions in the coal age)? Does it make sense to
say to China, "Things are bad now. You cannot contribute more, so stop
putting cars on the road"? Think they will go along with that?
You want some nations to sacrifice so other nations can prosper. That just
ain't gonna happen - never has in history, won't now.
> The conservative stance had always been like what you had placed down
> above "economy". If you think about it, you really aren't giving up on the
> economy by working for cooling the earth a bit.
Sure you are. You simply don't understand economics.
Take China. If you are *really* concerned about *reversing* CO2 emissions,
you say "We cannot expand *world wide* beyond what we have now unless we
have safe technologies." Those technologies are expensive and perhaps 10-15
years off. So you are saying to China, "No more cars!" You are saying to
every nation - "No more vehicles!"
Do you think that *might* impact economic growth, particularly in developing
nations? When you have millions of illegal immigrants coming into the US
every year, leaving behind the burro and picking up a smoke-belching 67
Chevy hoping to move up to an Escalade?
One joke about Kyoto was that nations like Russia could *sell* surplus
emissions allowances to other nations. That doesn't make sense - if your
goal is to really cut down emissions, you don't allow any nation to produce
more. If Russia is not producing so much, good for them - you don't say,
"You can do more." Because they are doing less, you applaud them, you don't
allow their low levels to excuse excess in other nations.
> Oh, the large part is the expansion of human settlements, into the
> Amazons, China getting rid of bycicles and into cars.. etc.
That's true. It's called population growth and economic growth. Try to
stop it at your peril.
> Let us just kill more people, that is it. Makes some war. There are too
> many humans.
And most are being born in the least productive societies. The birth rates
of most industrialized nations are flat or declining (birth rate does not
match death rate).
Maybe a little responsibility on the part of the breeding masses? Pig
Congenital Kano
"andrea del rosario" <sylvi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Rennie, if you had paid *any* attention you would have heard *every*
climatologist and hurricane expert say that hurricanes are historically
cyclic, and that this has nothing to do with global warming.
Please pay attention. Thanks!
Dat boy need some larnin' Pig
Congenital Kano
"Just JT" <Johnn...@Hotmale.Com> wrote in message
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Bwaharharhar! Me, too.
Somnolescent Pig
Sylvia Knörr
"Cheeze" <csmar...@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>Sylvia Knörr wrote:
>> "TheChosenPig" <drtys...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:b27Xe.1855$fb6.677@trnddc08...
>> > Sylvia Knörr wrote:
>> > > The German version? <groan>
>> > > To translate "Anak" into German is like desecrating this song. German
is
>> > > NO good language for singing.
>> > What's wrong with Lili Marlene?
>> Nothing wrong with songs in German language generally, but a German
re-make
>> of a song in any other language is in 99% of all cases a deterioration.
>> According to this fact, a German "Anak" version must be a disaster.
>So when your friends finally hear the song do they like it?
Most of them liked it - or they just pretended to like it to escape further
discussions. :-))
Be sure that I never miss an opportunity to play Freddies's music or some
other OPM to everyone around me, like a pusher gives free shots to some
teenagers. Sooner or later they will get hooked... :-D
>Tell them it sounds better while eating balut, sisig or papaitan. ;)
If only these things were available here! :-(
Pinoy Promotion Center Piggy
Sylvia Knörr
"Just JT" <Johnn...@Hotmale.Com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> Sabi ni "tumbaga" <ta...@hindiginto.ito>:
> > Terrible song, Doris Day made it popular and that is why no one below
> > fifty would want to hear it, 'cept the cursillos crowd.
> ---------------
> The song is terrible and the message of the song is way way terrible. It
is
> your TYPICAL BAHALA NA attitude which is keeping many Flips from
> progressing.
Would you agree that the message of "Anak" is much better because the child
changed his ways instead of waiting passively for something to happen?
That's the opposite of your "bahala na attitude". :-)
> Whoever wrote that song should be dug up and fed to the pigs.
I hope this will NOT turn into a food thread. ;-)
Necrophagic Piggy
gloria inching towards martial law arroyo
your kid can mess up 10 x nth time in all kinds of severity
but in the end you still talk to them and love them because they are
your flesh and blood . product of your wayward jakolitic juices. your
creation. your love one . westerners are a little different thu
they are less attached.
Cheeze
Sure they are. Just find some pig brains, goat bile and duck fetuses.
:-)
tumbaga
> "tumbaga" <ta...@hindiginto.ito> wrote in message
> news:11j5ha5...@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>No one's asking to cripple anything, just to make arrangements for other
>>technologies of which the US nad the rest are capable of doing,
>>alternative source of energy.
>
>
> Read what Blair said at Gleneagles and after. The problem with a reduction
> in emissions as dictated by artificial caps like Kyoto is that to meet them,
> you have to do more than cut down driving a bit. You have to scrub the air
> of factories, particularly plants that produce energy. This costs
> billions - who to pay? The consumer, of course. Environmentalists just
> don't comprehend market forces - if you make energy more expensive,
> everything becomes more expensive.
>
> Blair has *specifically* rejected a future Kyoto exactly because it will
> inhibit economic growth, which translates into a better life for the people.
>
Who cares about the Kyoto Accord, this meet is nothing but lip-service,
not a thing is being done by the people who agreed to it. For the same
reasons.
>
>>Now, we know that natural forces in addition to human contribution, one
>>that no one can deny is doing all of these. You and I will pay for it, now
>>or later, later would cost more lives. Now, is cheaper. Really!
>
>
> The real question is - how much is needed, if human emissions are really a
> problem (compare human emissions in the coal age)? Does it make sense to
> say to China, "Things are bad now. You cannot contribute more, so stop
> putting cars on the road"? Think they will go along with that?
This is not just a problem in China, in fact that question had been
posed already an you know the answer "It is so easy for developed
countries to insist on this" the answer is no way they will accept
limits on their growth much like the US is not willing to limit growth.
>
> You want some nations to sacrifice so other nations can prosper. That just
> ain't gonna happen - never has in history, won't now.
>
>
>>The conservative stance had always been like what you had placed down
>>above "economy". If you think about it, you really aren't giving up on the
>>economy by working for cooling the earth a bit.
>
>
> Sure you are. You simply don't understand economics.
>
> Take China. If you are *really* concerned about *reversing* CO2 emissions,
> you say "We cannot expand *world wide* beyond what we have now unless we
> have safe technologies." Those technologies are expensive and perhaps 10-15
> years off. So you are saying to China, "No more cars!" You are saying to
> every nation - "No more vehicles!"
>
> Do you think that *might* impact economic growth, particularly in developing
> nations? When you have millions of illegal immigrants coming into the US
> every year, leaving behind the burro and picking up a smoke-belching 67
> Chevy hoping to move up to an Escalade?
And of course you have to insert your racial bias somewhere. Mexicans
where I am at rides big SUV's much like your beloved Guv'nor.
>
> One joke about Kyoto was that nations like Russia could *sell* surplus
> emissions allowances to other nations. That doesn't make sense - if your
> goal is to really cut down emissions, you don't allow any nation to produce
> more. If Russia is not producing so much, good for them - you don't say,
> "You can do more." Because they are doing less, you applaud them, you don't
> allow their low levels to excuse excess in other nations.
>
Actually, I do and I don't expect any changes because of "economic
reasons", when you eat, you shit and that waste has to go somewhere.
That is the same with energy it shits CO2.
Again, you are putting words into my written ones, you always do that, I
am not Rose who actually insist that to solve Philippine problems is to
kill, and kill Indonesians with them.
>
>>Oh, the large part is the expansion of human settlements, into the
>>Amazons, China getting rid of bycicles and into cars.. etc.
>
>
> That's true. It's called population growth and economic growth. Try to
> stop it at your peril.
>
One of the big problem in the Amazons is that it is the largest Oxygen
producing area in the world and of course, the largest CO2 sucking
machine, human settlements and farming communities are reducing that
area. China is still the largest user of high sulphur coal and now
getting to be as big as the USA as far as consumers of energy.
>
>>Let us just kill more people, that is it. Makes some war. There are too
>>many humans.
>
>
> And most are being born in the least productive societies. The birth rates
> of most industrialized nations are flat or declining (birth rate does not
> match death rate).
>
> Maybe a little responsibility on the part of the breeding masses? Pig
>
>
Aha! a real and true solution!
Stop breeding for God's sake, and that is the real solution. Wear your
condoms or just BEAT IT!
Anyways, first the conservatives denied there is global warming, then
facts are pointed out, this again is denied, now it is a natural
phenomenon, acceptance, but it is "Not my fault" kinda thing.
Of course it is natural exacerbated by natural human progress, we pushed
it faster than normal. Americans by eating too much.
tumbaga
Show us the link... yes, that is the ticket, show us.
LeeBat
>"Just JT" <Johnn...@Hotmale.Com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> Whoever wrote that song should be dug up and fed to the pigs.
>I hope this will NOT turn into a food thread. ;-)
Darlin', permit me to let you into one of the biggest secrets of all:
ALL Filipino threads are ultimately food threads!
Normally, we would now have to kill you. However, the Council of
Elders of Pigs' Lodge No 1, meeting in a closed plenary session, voted
a one-time exception and you have been spared.
I caution that this was not a unanimous decision.
One (unnamed) Elder was vociferous in insisting that Renowl be fitted
with an exploding vest and a greasy Freddie Aguilar wig, given a
one-way ticket to Krautlandt and instructed to hand-deliver a 10 liter
container of bagoong directly into your sweet, tender hands.
Fortunately, he did prevail.
Ob cors, none of this can be substantiated and its only something I
happened to hear about. The Council of Elders are said to move in
mysterious ways .......
LeeBat
now it can be told
Sylvia Knörr
"LeeBat" <Lee...@optonline.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> "Sylvia Knörr" <sylvia.kno...@t-online.de> wrote:>
> >"Just JT" <Johnn...@Hotmale.Com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> >> Whoever wrote that song should be dug up and fed to the pigs.
> >I hope this will NOT turn into a food thread. ;-)
> Darlin', permit me to let you into one of the biggest secrets of all:
>
> ALL Filipino threads are ultimately food threads!
I anticipated something like that...
> Normally, we would now have to kill you. However, the Council of
> Elders of Pigs' Lodge No 1, meeting in a closed plenary session, voted
> a one-time exception and you have been spared.
Whew. Nice guys, those elders! :-)
> I caution that this was not a unanimous decision.
Whaaat??? Who is that scoundrel???
> One (unnamed) Elder was vociferous in insisting that Renowl be fitted
> with an exploding vest and a greasy Freddie Aguilar wig, given a
> one-way ticket to Krautlandt and instructed to hand-deliver a 10 liter
> container of bagoong directly into your sweet, tender hands.
OMG, what a heinous plan! You know, seeing long black hair (not necessarily
greasy) makes me absolutely weak and vulnerable.
> Fortunately, he did prevail.
>
> Ob cors, none of this can be substantiated and its only something I
> happened to hear about. The Council of Elders are said to move in
> mysterious ways .......
>
> LeeBat
> now it can be told
Thank you, Lee Darling, for telling me about it. Unlike many others here who
just follow their dubious agendas, you are a real pren! :-)
Pig's Lodge Novice Piggy
Sylvia Knörr
"gloria inching towards martial law arroyo" <sylvi...@yahoo.com> schrieb
im Newsbeitrag news:1127444488.6...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> anak is similar to the prodigal son story in the bible .
Exactly. But in "Anak" it is told from the child's view, not so much from
the parents' view. And it is the CHILD who realizes the errors of his ways
and finally lives up to what mother wants.
THIS part of the message seems so characteristically PINOY to me. It's the
opposite of macho behaviour, and it highlights the prominent role of the
MOTHER in the Filipino society.
as a parent
> your kid can mess up 10 x nth time in all kinds of severity
> but in the end you still talk to them and love them because they are
> your flesh and blood . product of your wayward jakolitic juices. your
> creation. your love one . westerners are a little different thu
> they are less attached.
Of course, we too love our children and want them to prosper, but we almost
expect them to split off from the family when they reach adulthood, and
maintain only loose family ties.
Before I was into Philippine culture, I thought this is the way it has to
be. LOL
Knowing Better Now Piggy
Congenital Kano
"tumbaga" <ta...@hindiginto.ito> wrote in message
> This is not just a problem in China, in fact that question had been posed
> already an you know the answer "It is so easy for developed countries to
> insist on this" the answer is no way they will accept limits on their
> growth much like the US is not willing to limit growth.
Exactly. It's the economy, stupid. But you seemed to say it was not
economic before when you wrote above:
"The conservative stance had always been like what you had placed down
above "economy". If you think about it, you really aren't giving up on
the economy by working for cooling the earth a bit."
The economy has everything to do with it.
>>
>> Do you think that *might* impact economic growth, particularly in
>> developing nations? When you have millions of illegal immigrants coming
>> into the US every year, leaving behind the burro and picking up a
>> smoke-belching 67 Chevy hoping to move up to an Escalade?
>
> And of course you have to insert your racial bias somewhere. Mexicans
> where I am at rides big SUV's much like your beloved Guv'nor.
No racial bias. If you describe something, you are not exhibiting bias. If
you see a black mugger fleeing the scene of a crime, and you report that,
you are not being biased.
The fact is that there is an influx of millions of South Americans (mostly
Mexicans) into the US every year. They drove no cars in Mexico. Once they
get here, they get cars (this is the whole rationale behind those pushing
for licenses for illegals). That increases the amount of emissions.
Dirt-poor illegals do not buy big SUVs. A huge component of the poverty
level in the US comes from these recent immigrants. As they settle in and
develop their sources of income, they upgrade their lifestyle.
Annecdotally saying that you see illegals driving big SUVs the moment they
come over the border is meaningless. But it stioll goes to my point - the
number of cars are increasing because of that influx.
People who see racism every time race is mentioned in a factual context are
prejudging themselves. If race is a valid descriptor, mentioning it is not
"bias", it is simply description.
>> One joke about Kyoto was that nations like Russia could *sell* surplus
>> emissions allowances to other nations. That doesn't make sense - if your
>> goal is to really cut down emissions, you don't allow any nation to
>> produce more. If Russia is not producing so much, good for them - you
>> don't say, "You can do more." Because they are doing less, you applaud
>> them, you don't allow their low levels to excuse excess in other nations.
>>
> Actually, I do and I don't expect any changes because of "economic
> reasons", when you eat, you shit and that waste has to go somewhere. That
> is the same with energy it shits CO2.
That appears to have absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote above.
Please elaborate.
> Again, you are putting words into my written ones, you always do that, I
> am not Rose who actually insist that to solve Philippine problems is to
> kill, and kill Indonesians with them.
Where am I putting words into your written ones? You do understand, in the
context of the above paragraph, "you" does not refer to *you*, it refers to
those who support Kyoto.
>>>Oh, the large part is the expansion of human settlements, into the
>>>Amazons, China getting rid of bycicles and into cars.. etc.
>>
>>
>> That's true. It's called population growth and economic growth. Try to
>> stop it at your peril.
>>
> One of the big problem in the Amazons is that it is the largest Oxygen
> producing area in the world and of course, the largest CO2 sucking
> machine, human settlements and farming communities are reducing that area.
> China is still the largest user of high sulphur coal and now getting to be
> as big as the USA as far as consumers of energy.
And thus any attempt at a solution that does not involve them is an attempt
to exact a price from others nations without holding China accountable.
I think we are probably on the same page here. My point is that the
standard "solutions" to alleged human-caused global warming are unrealistic
and unduly penalize certain countries while letting others off scott free.
>>>Let us just kill more people, that is it. Makes some war. There are too
>>>many humans.
>>
>>
>> And most are being born in the least productive societies. The birth
>> rates of most industrialized nations are flat or declining (birth rate
>> does not match death rate).
>>
>> Maybe a little responsibility on the part of the breeding masses? Pig
>
> Aha! a real and true solution!
> Stop breeding for God's sake, and that is the real solution. Wear your
> condoms or just BEAT IT!
>
> Anyways, first the conservatives denied there is global warming, then
> facts are pointed out, this again is denied, now it is a natural
> phenomenon, acceptance, but it is "Not my fault" kinda thing.
You don't understand. I do not blame you, because if you limit yourself to
the way the press represents conservative thought you will be misled.
Here are the essential positions (most) conservatives take on global climate
change. This position has not shifted to any great degree.
1. The evidence of global warming as a discrete trend unrelated to natural
cycles is problematic.
2. If there is a steady trend in global warming, the evidence is not
conclusive (according to the majority of climatologists) that human
emissions play *the* major role or even *a* major role, as against natural
phenomena like solar cycles and flares and other sources like volcanic
eruptions.
3, If human actions *are* contributing to global warming, there is no
conclusive evidence or scientific consensus that any changes that we can
make will radically alter the shift. Since the price tag is so high for
what was proposed so far, the cost-benefit analysis simply doesn't work out.
In spite of what the gum-chewing public believes, there is no concrete proof
that a) the earth is warming in any way outside normal cycles relating to
solar activity and other natural phenomenon and b) anything we do can make a
difference. Say human emissions contribute 5% to factors affecting climate
change, and nature 95%. Changing the human factor by even 100% will not
correct the trend.
It bears noting that the same people who are crying "global warming" were,
30 years ago, saying human activities were leading to the next ice age.
Since the annecdotal evidence goes both hot and cold, the non-scientific
(even scientific "true believers") have shied away from "global warming"
recently to talk about "climate change." This is a smooth move to cover
*any* perceived abnormality - thus "global warming" is causing heat spells
in one area and freezing temps in another. It all appears rather ludicrous
if you look at it with an open mind - they have constructed a theory that
will embrace *any* change. That's hedging you bets!
> Of course it is natural exacerbated by natural human progress, we pushed
> it faster than normal. Americans by eating too much.
That's a new one. Can we limit our input to correcting "global climate
change" by restricting caloric intake?
But what about my Krispy Kreme stock? Pig
Congenital Kano
"tumbaga" <ta...@hindiginto.ito> wrote in message
I exist only to serve the ignorant and lazy!
As discussed in the previous section, it is highly unlikely that global
warming has (or will) contribute to a drastic change in the number or
intensity of hurricanes. We have not observed a long-term increase in the
intensity or frequency of Atlantic hurricanes. Actually, 1991-1994 marked
the four quietest years on record (back to the mid-1940s) with just less
than 4 hurricanes per year. Instead of seeing a long-term trend up or down,
we do see a quasi-cyclic multi-decade regime that alternates between active
and quiet phases for major Atlantic hurricanes on the scale of 25-40 years
each (Gray 1990; Landsea 1993; Landsea et al. 1996). The quiet decades of
the 1970s to the early 1990s for major Atlantic hurricanes were likely due
to changes in the Atlantic Ocean sea surface temperature structure with
cooler than usual waters in the North Atlantic. The reverse situation of a
warm North Atlantic was present during the active late-1920s through the
1960s (Gray et al. 1997). It is quite possible that the extreme activity
since 1995 marks the start of another active period that may last a total of
25-40 years. More research is needed to better understand these hurricane
"cycles".
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/G4.html
From William Gray, world's greatest hurricane expert:
Right now I'm trying to work on this human-induced global-warming thing that
I think is grossly exaggerated.
Q: You don't believe global warming is causing climate change?
G: No. If it is, it is causing such a small part that it is negligible. I'm
not disputing that there has been global warming. There was a lot of global
warming in the 1930s and '40s, and then there was a slight global cooling
from the middle '40s to the early '70s. And there has been warming since the
middle '70s, especially in the last 10 years. But this is natural, due to
ocean circulation changes and other factors. It is not human induced.
Nearly all of my colleagues who have been around 40 or 50 years are
skeptical as hell about this whole global-warming thing. But no one asks us.
If you don't know anything about how the atmosphere functions, you will of
course say, "Look, greenhouse gases are going up, the globe is warming, they
must be related." Well, just because there are two associations, changing
with the same sign, doesn't mean that one is causing the other.
http://www.discover.com/issues/sep-05/departments/discover-dialogue/
Most climate scientists say that natural, cyclic phenomena that affect ocean
currents and atmospheric temperature-such as El Niño in the Pacific Ocean
and the North Atlantic Oscillation-yield decade-to-decade swings in total
hurricane numbers that have nothing to do with global warming. Some
researchers say that these phenomena are also responsible for all the
observed changes in storm intensity.
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20050917/bob8.asp
So, no, not *every* climatologist and hurricane expert says these are part
of cyclic patterns unrelated to global warming - just the majority and the
most experienced.
Forgive my hyperbole Pig
mary akostra
the amount offilth the whole world is now spewing. once it was only
a select few . now it is the entire planet. nothing to worry about
its your kids and their kids that will suffer.
mary akostra
tumbaga
> "tumbaga" <ta...@hindiginto.ito> wrote in message
> news:11j794t...@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>>This is not just a problem in China, in fact that question had been posed
>>already an you know the answer "It is so easy for developed countries to
>>insist on this" the answer is no way they will accept limits on their
>>growth much like the US is not willing to limit growth.
>
>
> Exactly. It's the economy, stupid. But you seemed to say it was not
> economic before when you wrote above:
>
> "The conservative stance had always been like what you had placed down
> above "economy". If you think about it, you really aren't giving up on
> the economy by working for cooling the earth a bit."
>
> The economy has everything to do with it.
>
The solution is not economic, and it should not be part of it when we
try to resolve it. The reason why there is nothing people would do.
>
>>>Do you think that *might* impact economic growth, particularly in
>>>developing nations? When you have millions of illegal immigrants coming
>>>into the US every year, leaving behind the burro and picking up a
>>>smoke-belching 67 Chevy hoping to move up to an Escalade?
>>
>>And of course you have to insert your racial bias somewhere. Mexicans
>>where I am at rides big SUV's much like your beloved Guv'nor.
>
>
> No racial bias. If you describe something, you are not exhibiting bias. If
> you see a black mugger fleeing the scene of a crime, and you report that,
> you are not being biased.
Then I could not agree, no matter what, because I cannot see those '67
Chevy's you describe being driven by Mexicans. Go that?
>
> The fact is that there is an influx of millions of South Americans (mostly
> Mexicans) into the US every year. They drove no cars in Mexico. Once they
> get here, they get cars (this is the whole rationale behind those pushing
> for licenses for illegals). That increases the amount of emissions.
>
> Dirt-poor illegals do not buy big SUVs. A huge component of the poverty
> level in the US comes from these recent immigrants. As they settle in and
> develop their sources of income, they upgrade their lifestyle.
>
> Annecdotally saying that you see illegals driving big SUVs the moment they
> come over the border is meaningless. But it stioll goes to my point - the
> number of cars are increasing because of that influx.
>
> People who see racism every time race is mentioned in a factual context are
> prejudging themselves. If race is a valid descriptor, mentioning it is not
> "bias", it is simply description.
>
Sure sure, sure.
In here? Yes. This issue had been placed in front of everyone before
Kyoto accord, before China became a superbuying juggernaut. The answer
the US got are from Latin American countries who are harvesting the
woods left and right in the Amazons.
Now, there is China, a country everyone is making money off of.
Your points here just proves mine. "There is no conclusive evidence".
Nuff said.
tumbaga
Yup!, I must be lazy nowadays.
Congenital Kano
>> economic before when you wrote above:
>>
>> "The conservative stance had always been like what you had placed down
>> above "economy". If you think about it, you really aren't giving up on
>> the economy by working for cooling the earth a bit."
>>
>> The economy has everything to do with it.
>>
> The solution is not economic, and it should not be part of it when we
> try to resolve it. The reason why there is nothing people would do.
Of course the solution is economic. How can it not be?
>> prejudging themselves. If race is a valid descriptor, mentioning it is not
>> "bias", it is simply description.
>>
> Sure sure, sure.
>> change" by restricting caloric intake?
>>
>> But what about my Krispy Kreme stock? Pig
>>
>>
>
> Your points here just proves mine. "There is no conclusive evidence".
> Nuff said.
We are, however, worried at the dawn of the twenty-first century, at the
emergence of an irrational ideology which is opposed to
scientific and
industrial progress and impedes economic and social development.
We contend that a Natural State, sometimes idealized by movements with a
tendency to look toward the past, does not exist and
has probably never
existed since man's first appearance in the biosphere, insofar as humanity has
always progressed by
increasingly harnessing Nature to its needs and not the
reverse. We full subscribe to the objectives of a scientific ecology for
a
universe whose resources must be taken stock of, monitored and preserved.
But we herewith demand that this stock-taking, monitoring and preservation be
founded on scientific criteria and not on
irrational preconceptions.
We stress that many essential human activities are carried out either by
manipulating hazardous substances or in their proximity,
and that progress
and development have always involved increasing control over hostile forces, to
the benefit of mankind.
We therefore consider that scientific ecology is no more than extension of
this continual progress toward the improved life of
future generations.
We intend to assert science's responsibility and duties toward society as a whole.
We do, however, forewarn the authorities in charge of our planet's destiny
against decisions which are supported by
pseudoscientific arguments or false
and nonrelevant data.
We draw everybody's attention to the absolute necessity of helping poor
countries attain a level of sustainable development which
matches that of the
rest of the planet, protecting them from troubles and dangers stemming from
developed nations, and
avoiding their entanglement in a web of unrealistic
obligations which would compromise both their independence and their
dignity.
The greatest evils which stalk our Earth are ignorance and oppression, and
not Science, Technology, and Industry, whose
instruments, when adequately
managed, are indispensable tools of a future shaped by Humanity, by itself and
for itself,
overcoming major problems like overpopulation, starvation and
worldwide diseases.
Some of the signatories:
- Bruce N. Ames, Director, National Institute of Environmental Health
Sciences Center, Berkeley-Biochemistry-U.S.A.
- * Phillip W. Anderson, Nobel Prize (Physics), Princeton
University-Physics-U.S.A.
- * Christian B. Anfinsen, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), John Hopkins
University-Baltimore-Biology-U.S.A.
- Henri Atlan, Professor, Head of Nuclear Medicine Department, Hotel Dieu,
Paris-Nuclear Medicine-France
- * Julius Axelrod, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Lab. Of Cell Biology Nat.
Institute of Mental Health-Cell Biology-U.S.A.
- Aden Bauleiu-Inserm, Ac. of Sciences, France, National Institute of
Sciences, U.S.A. Lasker Prize-Endocrinology-France
- * Baruj Benacerraf, Nobel Prize (Medicine), National Medal of Science,
President, Dana-Farber, Inc.-Cancerology-U.S.A.
- * Hans Albrecht Bethe, Nobel Prize (Physics), Emeritus Professor, Cornell
University-Ithaca-NY-Nuclear Physics-U.S.A.
- *Sir James W. Black, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor Of Analytical
Pharmacology King's College, London- Pharmacology-Grande-Bretagne
- * Nicholas Bloembergen, Nobel Prize (Physics), Harvard
University-Physics-U.S.A.
- Sir Hermann Bondi, Emeritus Professor Of Mathematics King's College
University Master of Churchill College Cambridge-Mathematics-Grande-Bretagne
- * Norman E, Borlaug, Nobel Prize (Peace), Sc. Consult CAMWOOD, Mexico Pdt.
Sasakawa African Assoc.-Agriculture-U.S.A.
- Pierre Bourdieu, College de France-Sociology-France
- * Adolph Butenandt, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Hon. Pres. Max-Planck
Institute-Chemistry-Allemagne
- * Thomas R. Cech, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), University of
Colorado-Chemistry-U.S.A.
- Carlos Chagas, Academia Pontificia, WIS-Medicine-Bresil
- * Owen Chamberlain, Professor, Nobel Prize (Physics), Emeritus Professor,
University Of California-Berkeley-U.S.A.
- * Stanley Cohen, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Distinguished Professor,
Department of Biochem., Vanderbilt University-Biochemistry-U.S.A.
- *Sir John Warcup Cornforth, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), School of Chemistry
and Molecular Sciences, Brighton-Chemistry-Grande-Bretagne
- * Jean Dausset, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Ac. of Sciences, France, Pres.
U.M.S.E., W.I.S., Paris-Immunology-France
- * Gerald Debreu, Nobel Prize (Economy), Emeritus Professor of Economics
and Mathematics, University Of California-Economy-U.S.A.
- * Johan Deisenhofer, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), University of Texas,
Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas-Biochemistry-U.S.A.
- Sir Richard Doll, Emeritus Professor Of Medicine, Radcliffe Infirmary,
Oxford-Epidemiology-Grande-Bretagne
- * Christian de Duve, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Biology-Belgique
- * Manfred Eigen, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), President of Max Plank
Institute, Gottingen-Chemistry-Allemagne
- * Richard R. Ernst, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Swiss Federal Institute of
Technology, Zurich-Chemistry-Suisse
- * Pierre-Gilles de Gennes, Nobel Prize (Physics), Ac. of Sciences,
Professor, College de France, Paris-Physics-France
- * Ivar Giaever, Nobel Prize (Physics), Institute Professor,
R.P.I.-Physics-U.S.A.
- * Donald A. Glaser, Nobel Prize (Physics), Professor of Physics,
University of California-Physics-U.S.A.
- Francois Gros, Professor, College de France, Ac of Sciences, France, Vice
President of WIS, Paris - Biology of development-France
- * Roger Guillemin, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Whittier Institute, La
Jolla-Medicine-U.S.A.
- * Herbert A. Hauptman, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Pres. Med. Found. of
Buffalo, Professor of Biophysics Sc-Biophysics-U.S.A.
- Harald zur Hausen, Professor, Dr., Director of German Cancer Research
Center, Heidelberg-Cancerology-Allemagne
- Mrs. Francoise Heritier-Auge, Professor, College de France, Pres Cons Nat.
Sida Dir, Ehess-Anthropology-France
- * Dudley R. Herschbach, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Baird Professor Of
Science, Harvard University, Cambridge-Chemistry-U.S.A.
- * Gerhard Herzberg, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), National Research Council of
Canada, Chemistry - Canada
- Benno Hess, Professor, Doctor, Honorary Senator and Former Vice President,
Max-Planck Society , WIS - Biophysics-Allemagne
- * Anthony Jewish, Nobel Prize (Physics), Professor, Cavendish Laboratory,
Cambridge University Physics - Grande-Bretagne
- * Roald Hoffman, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor Of Chemistry, Cornell
University-Chemistry-U.S.A.
- * Robert Huber, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Max-Planck Institute for
Biochemie, Biochemistry-Allemagne
- *Sir Andrew Fielding Huxley, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Formerly President of
London, Medicine-Grande-Bretagne
- Serguei Petrovich Kapitza, Professor of Sciences, Institute for Physical
Problems, WIS-Physics, electrodynamics-Russie
- * Jerome Karle, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Chief Scientist, Lab for
Structure of Matter, Chemistry-U.S.A.
- *Sir John Kendrew, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor, The Old Guildhall,
Cambridge, Molecular Biology-Grande-Bretagne
- * Klaus Von Klitzing, Nobel Prize (Physics), Professor, Max-Planck Inst.
Solid State Research, Stuttgart-Physics-Allemagne
- * Aaron Klug, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), M.R.C. Lab. of Molecular Biology,
Cambridge-Chemistry-Grande-Bretagne
- * Edwin G. Krebs, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor Emeritus, Department
of Pharm & Biochem, University of Washington-Biochemistry-U.S.A.
- * Leon Lederman, Nobel Prize (Physics), Director Emeritus, Fermi Nat'l
Accelerator Laboratory, Nuclear Physics-U.S.A.
- * Yuan T. Lee, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor of Chemistry, University
of California-Berkeley-U.S.A.
- * Jean-Marie Lehn, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor, College de France,
W.I.S. Chemistry-France
- Pierre Lelong, Professor, Ac of Sciences, W.I.S.-Mathematics-France
- * Wassily Leontief, Nobel Prize (Economy), Professor, New York
University-Economy-U.S.A.
- * Rita Levi-Montalcini, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Ac Lincei, Ac Pontificia,
W.I.S.-Neurosciences-Italie
- Andr Linchnerowicz, Professor, Ac of Sciences France, Ac Lincei, Ac
Pontificia, President of W.I.S., Mathematical Physics-France
- Richard S. Lindzen, Professor, US National Academy of Sciences, M.I.T.,
W.I.S.-Meteorology-U.S.A.
- * William N. Lipscomb, Nobel Prize Winner (Chemistry), Professor Emeritus,
Harvard University, Cambridge-Chemistry-U.S.A.
- * Harry M. Markowitz, Nobel Prize (Economics), Speizer Professor of
Finance, Baruch College-U.S.A.
- * Simon van der Meer, Nobel Prize (Physics), Geneva-Nuclear Physics-Suisse
- * Cesar Milstein, Nobel Prize (Physiology), Dr
Cambridge-Physiology-Grande-Bretagne
- *Sir. Nevil F. Mott, Nobel Prize Winner (Physics), Emeritus Professor,
Cambridge University, Physics-Grande-Bretagne
- * Joseph Murray, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor, Dr Surgery, Harvard
Med School-Cell Biology-U.S.A.
- * Daniel Nathans, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor, John Hopkins Un,
School of Medicine, Baltimore-Molecular Genetics-U.S.A.
- Daniel W. Nebert, Professor, Director, Center for Environmental Genetics,
University of Cincinnati, Genetics-U.S.A.
- * Louis Neel, Nobel Prize (Physics), Physics-France
- * Erwin Neher, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Doctor, Director, Max-Planck
Institute, Biophysics, Goettingen-Biophysics-Allemagne
- * Marshall W. Nirenberg, Nobel Prize (Medicine), National Institutes of
Health, Bethesda-Medicine-U.S.A.
- * George E. Palade, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor, Division of
Cellular & Molecular Med, Cell Medicine-U.S.A.
- * Linus Pauling, Nobel Prize (Chemistry, Peace), Professor, Linus Pauling
Institute Sc and Med, Chemistry-U.S.A.
- Jean-Claude Pecker, Professor Hon, College de France, Ac of Sciences,
Royal Ac of Belgium, W.I.S.-Astrophysics-France
- * Amo A. Penzias, Nobel Prize (Physics), Professor, Bell Labortories,
Murray Hill-Physics-U.S.A.
- * Max Ferdinand Perutz, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), MRC Laboratory of
Molecular Biology, Cambridge-Biochemistry-Grande-Bretagne
- Julian Peto, Professor, Head , Section of Epidemiology, Institute of
Cancer Research, London-Epidemiology-Grande-Bretagne
- Richard Peto, Professor of Medical Statistics & Epidemiology,
University of Oxford-Epidemiology-Grande-Bretagne
- * John Charles Polanyi, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor Of Chemistry,
University of Toronto-Chemistry-Canada
- *Lord George Porter, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor, Chairman,
Photomolec, Sc Imperial College, London-Chemistry-Grande-Bretagne
- * I. Prigogine, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor, Director, Institute
Intern. de Phys. et de Chim, Bruxelles-Chemistry-Belgique
- A. Prochiantz, Pr, Director of Research CNRS, Ecole Normale Suprieure,
Paris, W.I.S.-Pharmacology-France
- Ichtiaque Rasool, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena-Physics-France
- * Tadeus Reichstein, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor Emeritus, Org
Chemistry, University of Basel-Organic Chemistry-Suisse
- * Heinrich Rohrer, Nobel Prize (Physics), IBM Research Laboratory,
Physics-Suisse
- * Bert Sakmann, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor, Max-Planck Inst for
Med. Forschung, Heidelberg-Cell Biology-Allemange
- * Abdus Salam, Nobel Prize (Physics), International Centre for Theoretical
Physics, Italie
- Jonas Salk, Distinguished Pr., Dr , International Health
Sciences-Biology-USA
- Evry Schatzman, Professor, Ac of Sciences-France-Astrophysics-France
- * Arthur L. Schawlow, Nobel Prize (Physics), Stanford
University-Physics-U.S.A.
- G. Schettler, Professor, Director, Former President, Academy of Sciences,
Heidelberg-Cardiology-Allemagne
- Elie A. Shneour, Professor, Director, Biosystems Research Institute, San
Diego, California-U.S.A.
- * Kai Siegbahn, Nobel Prize (Physics), Physics-Suede
- S. Fred Singer, Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of
Virginia, Director of the Washington S.E.P.P, EnvironmentalSciences-U.S.A.
- * Richard Laurence Millington Synge, Nobel Prize (Chemistry),
Biochemistry-Grande-Bretagne
- GP Talwar, Professor Emeritus, Nat Inst of Immunology, Ac of Sciences,
India, W.I.S.-Immunology-Inde
- * Jan Tinbergen, Nobel Prize (Economy), Economy-Pays-Bas
- *Lord Alexander Todd, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Chemistry-Grande-Bretagne
- Alvin Toffler, Author-Futurist-Futurology-U.S.A.
- * Charles H. Townes, Nobel Prize (Physics), W.I.S. Professor Emeritus,
Physics, University of California, Berkeley-Physics-U.S.A.
- Ren Truhaut, Professor, Pharmacology Facult des Sciences, Pharmaceutiques,
Paris-Toxicology-France
- *Sir John R. Vane , Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor, Chairman of William
Harvey Research Institute, London-Endocrinology-Grande-Bretagne
- * Harold E. Varmus, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor of Microbiology,
University of California, San Francisco-Microbiology-U.S.A.
- * Thomas Huckle Weller, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor Emeritus,
Harvard-Medicine-U.S.A.
- * Elie Wiesel, Nobel Prize (Peace), University of Boston Literature-U.S.A.
- * Torsten N. Wiesel, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor, Lab of
Neurobiology, Rockefeller University of New York, Neurobiology-U.S.A.
- * Robert W. Wilson, Nobel Prize (Physics), Head, Radio Physics Res Department, AT&T Bell Laboratories-Physics-U.S.A.
*Denotes Nobel Prize Winner
But what do *they* know? Pig
senatorwho wrote the rally law tells gloria that she is a moron and a lawbreaker to break it .
environmental regs but doesnt say anything about the side effects of
tax cuts in the face of ballooning expenditures in iraq,
louisiana,medicare, etc etc...
joek...@gmail.com
Side effects? Poor retard the only side effect was an economic boom-
please try to lie your way thru an explaination of your stupid claim....
Congenital Kano
"senatorwho wrote the rally law tells gloria that she is a moron and a
lawbreaker to break it ." <amp...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1127657572.0...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
"Why is it that the dreaded federal budget deficit only commands screaming
headlines when it's rising, not falling? And why is it that the deficit is
portrayed as a fire-breathing, hydra-headed monster only when the press can
portray the villain as "irresponsible tax cuts," not runaway federal
spending?
"We ask these questions in the wake of the great unreported fiscal story of
2005: the shrinking federal deficit. It's down by at least $100 billion
because federal tax receipts have skyrocketed this year by 14.6% (or $204
billion) through June. Private economic forecasters now believe the budget
deficit may come in at about 2.5% of GDP, which is in line with the
historical average for the past 40 years."
http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB112113079506182976,00.html?mod=opinion&ojcontent=otep
This happened in the Reagan years. It's happening today Pig
Sylvia Knörr
"Just JT" <Johnn...@Hotmale.Com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> Tanong ni "Sylvia Knörr" <sylvia.kno...@t-online.de>:
> > What is the "Cursillo movement"? And what are "three-day Christian
revival
> > thingies"?
> --------------
> The Cursillo is a three-day retreat for people to renew their Christian
> faith. It's a three-day event of lecture, song and so forth. It was
popular
> in the sixties and early seventies but I have not heard of it today.
Ah, I see. Some kind of religious Woodstock! :-)
Christian Festival Piggy
Sylvia Knörr
>> > What is the "Cursillo movement"? And what are "three-day Christian
revival
>> > thingies"?
>> --------------
>> The Cursillo is a three-day retreat for people to renew their Christian
>> faith. It's a three-day event of lecture, song and so forth. It was
popular
>> in the sixties and early seventies but I have not heard of it today.
>You probably haven't heard of Couples for Christ. My parents made me
>go to one of those retreats.
Did you change your evil ways after that? ;-)
Purged Piggy
Congenital Kano
"Sylvia Knörr" <sylvia.kno...@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:dh793u$n37$00$1...@news.t-online.com...
Only less drugs, less sex, and better sanitation.
Summer of lub Pig
Cheeze
I actually headed a retreat!!! :-)
But that's in the past. Way way way in the past. And it soon became
clear after a few months that I couldn't stomach it.
Religion, I find, has its own evils.
tumbaga
>
> Of course the solution is economic. How can it not be?
My point was to start ignoring economics as a factor, of course it is
economics but it shouldn't be when we just might pay for it at a higher
cost... Wait, didn't I said the same before?... oh well.
> <http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/05/10/sections/local/local/article_513663.php>that
> traffic - from roads too narrow for the flow - cost 3.7 billion hours of
> productivity and 2.3 billion gallons of extra gas.
>
> That's a big economic impact.
>
> There is no way to reduce CO2 emissions without economic impact.
>
You do make sense here...
So when is CO2 emissions be reduced?
Like I said:
I don't see any 67 Chevys driven by Mexicans since Mexicans have large
SUV's in my neighborhood, so your description is like those blind men
describing how an elephant may look.
Catch the drift?
>
> Tell you what. Show me a *credible* scientific study that states
> *conclusively* that human emissions are the major cause of a
> non-cyclical warming of the planet and we can talk. The problem is -
> you can't. I read these studies as they come out, which the media and
> the enviromentals cite as "conclusive"; when you read the actual
> studies, you see the disclaimers, the hedging of bets, the statements of
> imprecision, the assumptions. Most conclude with statements like "It
> seems likely that..." Now, read the critiques by the *other* part of
> the scientific community (such as noted hurricane expert and
> climatologist Dr. William Gray). Are you familiar with the "Heidelberg
> Appeal"? <http://www.sepp.org/heidelberg_appeal.html>Signed by 72 Nobel
> * Bruce N. Ames, Director, National Institute of Environmental
> Health Sciences Center, Berkeley-Biochemistry-U.S.A.
> * * Phillip W. Anderson, Nobel Prize (Physics), Princeton
> University-Physics-U.S.A.
> * * Christian B. Anfinsen, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), John Hopkins
> University-Baltimore-Biology-U.S.A.
> * Henri Atlan, Professor, Head of Nuclear Medicine Department, Hotel
> Dieu, Paris-Nuclear Medicine-France
> * * Julius Axelrod, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Lab. Of Cell Biology
> Nat. Institute of Mental Health-Cell Biology-U.S.A.
> * Aden Bauleiu-Inserm, Ac. of Sciences, France, National Institute
> of Sciences, U.S.A. Lasker Prize-Endocrinology-France
> * * Baruj Benacerraf, Nobel Prize (Medicine), National Medal of
> Science, President, Dana-Farber, Inc.-Cancerology-U.S.A.
> * * Hans Albrecht Bethe, Nobel Prize (Physics), Emeritus Professor,
> Cornell University-Ithaca-NY-Nuclear Physics-U.S.A.
> * *Sir James W. Black, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor Of
> Analytical Pharmacology King's College, London-
> Pharmacology-Grande-Bretagne
> * * Nicholas Bloembergen, Nobel Prize (Physics), Harvard
> University-Physics-U.S.A.
> * Sir Hermann Bondi, Emeritus Professor Of Mathematics King's
> College University Master of Churchill College
> Cambridge-Mathematics-Grande-Bretagne
> * * Norman E, Borlaug, Nobel Prize (Peace), Sc. Consult CAMWOOD,
> Mexico Pdt. Sasakawa African Assoc.-Agriculture-U.S.A.
> * Pierre Bourdieu, College de France-Sociology-France
> * * Adolph Butenandt, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Hon. Pres. Max-Planck
> Institute-Chemistry-Allemagne
> * * Thomas R. Cech, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), University of
> Colorado-Chemistry-U.S.A.
> * Carlos Chagas, Academia Pontificia, WIS-Medicine-Bresil
> * * Owen Chamberlain, Professor, Nobel Prize (Physics), Emeritus
> Professor, University Of California-Berkeley-U.S.A.
> * * Stanley Cohen, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Distinguished Professor,
> Department of Biochem., Vanderbilt University-Biochemistry-U.S.A.
> * *Sir John Warcup Cornforth, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), School of
> Chemistry and Molecular Sciences, Brighton-Chemistry-Grande-Bretagne
> * * Jean Dausset, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Ac. of Sciences, France,
> Pres. U.M.S.E., W.I.S., Paris-Immunology-France
> * * Gerald Debreu, Nobel Prize (Economy), Emeritus Professor of
> Economics and Mathematics, University Of California-Economy-U.S.A.
> * * Johan Deisenhofer, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), University of Texas,
> Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas-Biochemistry-U.S.A.
> * Sir Richard Doll, Emeritus Professor Of Medicine, Radcliffe
> Infirmary, Oxford-Epidemiology-Grande-Bretagne
> * * Christian de Duve, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Biology-Belgique
> * * Manfred Eigen, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), President of Max Plank
> Institute, Gottingen-Chemistry-Allemagne
> * * Richard R. Ernst, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Swiss Federal
> Institute of Technology, Zurich-Chemistry-Suisse
> * * Pierre-Gilles de Gennes, Nobel Prize (Physics), Ac. of Sciences,
> Professor, College de France, Paris-Physics-France
> * * Ivar Giaever, Nobel Prize (Physics), Institute Professor,
> R.P.I.-Physics-U.S.A.
> * * Donald A. Glaser, Nobel Prize (Physics), Professor of Physics,
> University of California-Physics-U.S.A.
> * Francois Gros, Professor, College de France, Ac of Sciences,
> France, Vice President of WIS, Paris - Biology of development-France
> * * Roger Guillemin, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Whittier Institute, La
> Jolla-Medicine-U.S.A.
> * * Herbert A. Hauptman, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Pres. Med. Found.
> of Buffalo, Professor of Biophysics Sc-Biophysics-U.S.A.
> * Harald zur Hausen, Professor, Dr., Director of German Cancer
> Research Center, Heidelberg-Cancerology-Allemagne
> * Mrs. Francoise Heritier-Auge, Professor, College de France, Pres
> Cons Nat. Sida Dir, Ehess-Anthropology-France
> * * Dudley R. Herschbach, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Baird Professor
> Of Science, Harvard University, Cambridge-Chemistry-U.S.A.
> * * Gerhard Herzberg, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), National Research
> Council of Canada, Chemistry - Canada
> * Benno Hess, Professor, Doctor, Honorary Senator and Former Vice
> President, Max-Planck Society , WIS - Biophysics-Allemagne
> * * Anthony Jewish, Nobel Prize (Physics), Professor, Cavendish
> Laboratory, Cambridge University Physics - Grande-Bretagne
> * * Roald Hoffman, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor Of Chemistry,
> Cornell University-Chemistry-U.S.A.
> * * Robert Huber, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Max-Planck Institute for
> Biochemie, Biochemistry-Allemagne
> * *Sir Andrew Fielding Huxley, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Formerly
> President of London, Medicine-Grande-Bretagne
> * Serguei Petrovich Kapitza, Professor of Sciences, Institute for
> Physical Problems, WIS-Physics, electrodynamics-Russie
> * * Jerome Karle, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Chief Scientist, Lab for
> Structure of Matter, Chemistry-U.S.A.
> * *Sir John Kendrew, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor, The Old
> Guildhall, Cambridge, Molecular Biology-Grande-Bretagne
> * * Klaus Von Klitzing, Nobel Prize (Physics), Professor, Max-Planck
> Inst. Solid State Research, Stuttgart-Physics-Allemagne
> * * Aaron Klug, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), M.R.C. Lab. of Molecular
> Biology, Cambridge-Chemistry-Grande-Bretagne
> * * Edwin G. Krebs, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor Emeritus,
> Department of Pharm & Biochem, University of
> Washington-Biochemistry-U.S.A.
> * * Leon Lederman, Nobel Prize (Physics), Director Emeritus, Fermi
> Nat'l Accelerator Laboratory, Nuclear Physics-U.S.A.
> * * Yuan T. Lee, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor of Chemistry,
> University of California-Berkeley-U.S.A.
> * * Jean-Marie Lehn, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor, College de
> France, W.I.S. Chemistry-France
> * Pierre Lelong, Professor, Ac of Sciences, W.I.S.-Mathematics-France
> * * Wassily Leontief, Nobel Prize (Economy), Professor, New York
> University-Economy-U.S.A.
> * * Rita Levi-Montalcini, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Ac Lincei, Ac
> Pontificia, W.I.S.-Neurosciences-Italie
> * Andr Linchnerowicz, Professor, Ac of Sciences France, Ac Lincei,
> Ac Pontificia, President of W.I.S., Mathematical Physics-France
> * Richard S. Lindzen, Professor, US National Academy of Sciences,
> M.I.T., W.I.S.-Meteorology-U.S.A.
> * * William N. Lipscomb, Nobel Prize Winner (Chemistry), Professor
> Emeritus, Harvard University, Cambridge-Chemistry-U.S.A.
> * * Harry M. Markowitz, Nobel Prize (Economics), Speizer Professor
> of Finance, Baruch College-U.S.A.
> * * Simon van der Meer, Nobel Prize (Physics), Geneva-Nuclear
> Physics-Suisse
> * * Cesar Milstein, Nobel Prize (Physiology), Dr
> Cambridge-Physiology-Grande-Bretagne
> * *Sir. Nevil F. Mott, Nobel Prize Winner (Physics), Emeritus
> Professor, Cambridge University, Physics-Grande-Bretagne
> * * Joseph Murray, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor, Dr Surgery,
> Harvard Med School-Cell Biology-U.S.A.
> * * Daniel Nathans, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor, John Hopkins
> Un, School of Medicine, Baltimore-Molecular Genetics-U.S.A.
> * Daniel W. Nebert, Professor, Director, Center for Environmental
> Genetics, University of Cincinnati, Genetics-U.S.A.
> * * Louis Neel, Nobel Prize (Physics), Physics-France
> * * Erwin Neher, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Doctor, Director,
> Max-Planck Institute, Biophysics, Goettingen-Biophysics-Allemagne
> * * Marshall W. Nirenberg, Nobel Prize (Medicine), National
> Institutes of Health, Bethesda-Medicine-U.S.A.
> * * George E. Palade, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor, Division of
> Cellular & Molecular Med, Cell Medicine-U.S.A.
> * * Linus Pauling, Nobel Prize (Chemistry, Peace), Professor, Linus
> Pauling Institute Sc and Med, Chemistry-U.S.A.
> * Jean-Claude Pecker, Professor Hon, College de France, Ac of
> Sciences, Royal Ac of Belgium, W.I.S.-Astrophysics-France
> * * Amo A. Penzias, Nobel Prize (Physics), Professor, Bell
> Labortories, Murray Hill-Physics-U.S.A.
> * * Max Ferdinand Perutz, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), MRC Laboratory of
> Molecular Biology, Cambridge-Biochemistry-Grande-Bretagne
> * Julian Peto, Professor, Head , Section of Epidemiology, Institute
> of Cancer Research, London-Epidemiology-Grande-Bretagne
> * Richard Peto, Professor of Medical Statistics & Epidemiology,
> University of Oxford-Epidemiology-Grande-Bretagne
> * * John Charles Polanyi, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor Of
> Chemistry, University of Toronto-Chemistry-Canada
> * *Lord George Porter, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor, Chairman,
> Photomolec, Sc Imperial College, London-Chemistry-Grande-Bretagne
> * * I. Prigogine, Nobel Prize (Chemistry), Professor, Director,
> Institute Intern. de Phys. et de Chim, Bruxelles-Chemistry-Belgique
> * A. Prochiantz, Pr, Director of Research CNRS, Ecole Normale
> Suprieure, Paris, W.I.S.-Pharmacology-France
> * Ichtiaque Rasool, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena-Physics-France
> * * Tadeus Reichstein, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor Emeritus,
> Org Chemistry, University of Basel-Organic Chemistry-Suisse
> * * Heinrich Rohrer, Nobel Prize (Physics), IBM Research Laboratory,
> Physics-Suisse
> * * Bert Sakmann, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor, Max-Planck Inst
> for Med. Forschung, Heidelberg-Cell Biology-Allemange
> * * Abdus Salam, Nobel Prize (Physics), International Centre for
> Theoretical Physics, Italie
> * Jonas Salk, Distinguished Pr., Dr , International Health
> Sciences-Biology-USA
> * Evry Schatzman, Professor, Ac of Sciences-France-Astrophysics-France
> * * Arthur L. Schawlow, Nobel Prize (Physics), Stanford
> University-Physics-U.S.A.
> * G. Schettler, Professor, Director, Former President, Academy of
> Sciences, Heidelberg-Cardiology-Allemagne
> * Elie A. Shneour, Professor, Director, Biosystems Research
> Institute, San Diego, California-U.S.A.
> * * Kai Siegbahn, Nobel Prize (Physics), Physics-Suede
> * S. Fred Singer, Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of
> Virginia, Director of the Washington S.E.P.P,
> EnvironmentalSciences-U.S.A.
> * * Richard Laurence Millington Synge, Nobel Prize (Chemistry),
> Biochemistry-Grande-Bretagne
> * GP Talwar, Professor Emeritus, Nat Inst of Immunology, Ac of
> Sciences, India, W.I.S.-Immunology-Inde
> * * Jan Tinbergen, Nobel Prize (Economy), Economy-Pays-Bas
> * *Lord Alexander Todd, Nobel Prize (Chemistry),
> Chemistry-Grande-Bretagne
> * Alvin Toffler, Author-Futurist-Futurology-U.S.A.
> * * Charles H. Townes, Nobel Prize (Physics), W.I.S. Professor
> Emeritus, Physics, University of California, Berkeley-Physics-U.S.A.
> * Ren Truhaut, Professor, Pharmacology Facult des Sciences,
> Pharmaceutiques, Paris-Toxicology-France
> * *Sir John R. Vane , Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor, Chairman of
> William Harvey Research Institute,
> London-Endocrinology-Grande-Bretagne
> * * Harold E. Varmus, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor of
> Microbiology, University of California, San
> Francisco-Microbiology-U.S.A.
> * * Thomas Huckle Weller, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor
> Emeritus, Harvard-Medicine-U.S.A.
> * * Elie Wiesel, Nobel Prize (Peace), University of Boston
> Literature-U.S.A.
> * * Torsten N. Wiesel, Nobel Prize (Medicine), Professor, Lab of
> Neurobiology, Rockefeller University of New York, Neurobiology-U.S.A.
> * * Robert W. Wilson, Nobel Prize (Physics), Head, Radio Physics Res
Congenital Kano
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> My point was to start ignoring economics as a factor, of course it is
> economics but it shouldn't be when we just might pay for it at a higher
> cost... Wait, didn't I said the same before?... oh well.
>> There is no way to reduce CO2 emissions without economic impact.
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> You do make sense here...
> So when is CO2 emissions be reduced?
> Like I said:
> I don't see any 67 Chevys driven by Mexicans since Mexicans have large
> SUV's in my neighborhood, so your description is like those blind men
> describing how an elephant may look.
> Catch the drift?