ENRIQUE IGLESIAS HAS NO Filipino BLOOD
Ejose1yahoocom
If you mean Enrique Iglesias and Julio Jose Jr. are part-Filipino because their
mother was born and raised in the Philippines - even if her parentage, physical
appearance and demeanor is full Spanish - then so be it. What is the big
problem here? I worked at Elizalde Company in Manila where Isabel's father was
a treasurer.
Not because a person was born, raised and has acquired Filipino citizenship,
he/she is full-blooded Filipino. How about tracing the Preysler family tree
and see if there is Filipino blood in them. Filipino citizens, maybe yes, but
true blooded Filipino????? I DOUBT IT!!! There are a lot of Spaniards and
Chinese in the Philippines who are Filipino citizens, claiming they are
Filipinos, but their country of origin is not the Philippines nor does it mean
that they have any Filipino blood. The same thing with Filipinos who were born
and raised in the US and acquired American citizenship. It does not mean that
they are Americans. Their country of origin is still the Philippines. That
holds true with Isabel Preysler.
ManongKiko
>Date: 2/25/00 12:49 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <20000225034931...@ng-ck1.aol.com>wrote:
>
>This was posted yesterday on Yahoo! by ejose1
>
>If you mean Enrique Iglesias and Julio Jose Jr. are part-Filipino because
>their
>mother was born and raised in the Philippines - even if her parentage,
>physical
>appearance and demeanor is full Spanish - then so be it. What is the big
>problem here? I worked at Elizalde Company in Manila where Isabel's father
>was
>a treasurer.
So who is the real Filipinos then?
>
>Not because a person was born, raised and has acquired Filipino citizenship,
>he/she is full-blooded Filipino. How about tracing the Preysler family tree
>and see if there is Filipino blood in them. Filipino citizens, maybe yes, but
>true blooded Filipino????? I DOUBT IT!!!
I understand that they have Malayan blood on the maternal side of the Preysler.
There are a lot of Spaniards and
>Chinese in the Philippines who are Filipino citizens, claiming they are
>Filipinos, but their country of origin is not the Philippines nor does it
>mean
>that they have any Filipino blood.
I think you are confused of what is a Filipino/na. Your concept of genealogy
sounds racist and real to me.
The same thing with Filipinos who were
>born
>and raised in the US and acquired American citizenship. It does not mean
>that
>they are Americans.
So again, who is the real American?
Their country of origin is still the Philippines. That
>holds true with Isabel Preysler.
>
>ejo...@yahoo.com
Ah, I know what you mean. You don't like to attach Enrique to Filipinos but to
Latinos for that is where the big market for him. Who cares Enrique, I don't
buy any of his music....asshole.
Hechizo
>If you mean Enrique Iglesias and Julio Jose Jr. are part-Filipino because
>their
>mother was born and raised in the Philippines - even if her parentage,
>physical
>appearance and demeanor is full Spanish - then so be it. What is the big
>problem here? I worked at Elizalde Company in Manila where Isabel's father
>was
>a treasurer.
I've seen Isabel Preysler's picture and she doesn't look Spaniard (or white) to
me... Check out this website:
http://www.redkbs.com/club/personales/jiglesias/Biography.htm and see for
yourself...
>
>Not because a person was born, raised and has acquired Filipino citizenship,
>he/she is full-blooded Filipino. How about tracing the Preysler family tree
>and see if there is Filipino blood in them. Filipino citizens, maybe yes, but
>true blooded Filipino????? I DOUBT IT!!!
What is her family's country of origin then?
tulisan
ManongKiko <manon...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000225064225.22539.00001854@ng->
> I understand that they have Malayan blood on the maternal side of the
Preysler.
>
all this fuss about a 20th century courtesan who was an ex-mestiza de
entresuelo!!!
tulisan
Kalaninuiana`olekaumaiiluna Mondoy
>
> If you mean Enrique Iglesias and Julio Jose Jr. are part-Filipino because their
> mother was born and raised in the Philippines - even if her parentage, physical
> appearance and demeanor is full Spanish - then so be it. What is the big
> problem here? I worked at Elizalde Company in Manila where Isabel's father was
> a treasurer.
>
> he/she is full-blooded Filipino. How about tracing the Preysler family tree
> and see if there is Filipino blood in them. Filipino citizens, maybe yes, but
> Chinese in the Philippines who are Filipino citizens, claiming they are
> Filipinos, but their country of origin is not the Philippines nor does it mean
> and raised in the US and acquired American citizenship. It does not mean that
> holds true with Isabel Preysler.
Americans I understand. But to me Isabel looks like a Filipina to me,
although not like a typical one I might add. You seem to know her tree
fairly well. Can you enlighten us on exactly what her genealogy is?
I've been doing mine for a decade so I'd like to see what you have to
offer us.
Tansong Isda
>
> This was posted yesterday on Yahoo! by ejose1
>
> mother was born and raised in the Philippines - even if her parentage, physical
> appearance and demeanor is full Spanish - then so be it. What is the big
> problem here? I worked at Elizalde Company in Manila where Isabel's father was
> a treasurer.
>
> Not because a person was born, raised and has acquired Filipino citizenship,
> he/she is full-blooded Filipino. How about tracing the Preysler family tree
> and see if there is Filipino blood in them. Filipino citizens, maybe yes, but
> true blooded Filipino????? I DOUBT IT!!! There are a lot of Spaniards and
> Chinese in the Philippines who are Filipino citizens, claiming they are
> Filipinos, but their country of origin is not the Philippines nor does it mean
> that they have any Filipino blood. The same thing with Filipinos who were born
> and raised in the US and acquired American citizenship. It does not mean that
> they are Americans. Their country of origin is still the Philippines. That
> holds true with Isabel Preysler.
>
Guess what!!! I don't give a !!!! Filll it in there.
Dirty Sick Pig
> The same thing with Filipinos who were born
> and raised in the US and acquired American citizenship. It does not mean that
> they are Americans.
Yes, they are, according to U.S. law. Filipinos, or for that matter any
nationality, born in the U.S. of parents who have a legitimate reason to
be in the U.S. at the time of birth do not have to be raised in the U.S.
to acquire American citizenship. They are natural-born Americans and
U.S. citizenship was acquired at birth.
I think you're having problems with language, but that's the way I
understood that part of your post quoted above.
> Their country of origin is still the Philippines. That
> holds true with Isabel Preysler.
Test your theory: I was born in Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A., of immigrant
Filipino parents PRIOR to their naturalization as U.S. citizens. What
is my country of origin? What is my citizenship? Who became a U.S.
citizen first: mama pig, daddy pig or their dirty sick piglet?
W
and raised in the us and still isnt an american what do you define as an
american?
"Ejose1yahoocom" <ejose1y...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000225034931...@ng-ck1.aol.com...
> This was posted yesterday on Yahoo! by ejose1
>
> If you mean Enrique Iglesias and Julio Jose Jr. are part-Filipino because
their
> mother was born and raised in the Philippines - even if her parentage,
physical
> appearance and demeanor is full Spanish - then so be it. What is the big
> problem here? I worked at Elizalde Company in Manila where Isabel's father
was
> a treasurer.
>
> Not because a person was born, raised and has acquired Filipino
citizenship,
> he/she is full-blooded Filipino. How about tracing the Preysler family
tree
> and see if there is Filipino blood in them. Filipino citizens, maybe yes,
but
> true blooded Filipino????? I DOUBT IT!!! There are a lot of Spaniards and
> Chinese in the Philippines who are Filipino citizens, claiming they are
> Filipinos, but their country of origin is not the Philippines nor does it
mean
born
> and raised in the US and acquired American citizenship. It does not mean
that
> holds true with Isabel Preysler.
>
>
Tansong Isda
>
> I guess we filipinos still have an identity crisis and must associate our
> people with those who have "fame and celebrity" When will the day come when we
> can stop saying that this actor is part filipino and this baseball player has
> filipino blood? I don't think it really matters that they may or may not have
> filipino blood, but that they are good at what they do.
In a nation whose population is mostly white, it is nice to
know who is like you that made it, this is a normal reaction
among minorities. It is not identity crisis. But then again,
I have nothing against Enrique, but I don't have any of his
music, so I don't really care.
Jvirata
Ejose1yahoocom
While it is true that Isabel Preysler grew up in the Philippines, she is not a
Filipina. Both her parents are pure Spanish from Spain. I forgot the first
name of her father but he was the Treasurer of Elizalde & Company whose office
was in Ayala Avenue in Makati. I used to work with Elizalde when I was still
in the Philippines and I used to meet them there. Although I am not sure
whether Isabel eventually became a Filipino citizen.
Hope this answers the question.
Novus Ordo Seclorum Signum de Volpus Marina
> Ejose1yahoocom wrote:
>> The same thing with Filipinos who were born
>> and raised in the US and acquired American citizenship. It does not mean that
>> they are Americans.
> Yes, they are, according to U.S. law. Filipinos, or for that matter any
> nationality, born in the U.S. of paren8ts who have a legitimate reason to
> be in the U.S. at the time of birth do not have to be raised in the U.S.
> to acquire American citizenship. They are natural-born Americans and
> U.S. citizenship was acquired at birth.
> I think you're having problems with language, but that's the way I
> understood that part of your post quoted above.
>> Their country of origin is still the Philippines. That
>> holds true with Isabel Preysler.
> Test your theory: I was born in Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A., of immigrant
> Filipino parents PRIOR to their naturalization as U.S. citizens. What
> is my country of origin? What is my citizenship? Who became a U.S.
> citizen first: mama pig, daddy pig or their dirty sick piglet?
The piglet? : )
- Dominic
p.s. Chip were you born at Lake Forest?
--
Copyright © 2000 C5GP All Rights Reserved
In Consistent Pursuit of ISO 9006 Compliance
&
<http://www.egroups.com/group/soc_culture_filipino/info.html>
Kalaninuiana`olekaumaiiluna Mondoy
get famous for whatever reason. Hmm, maybe infamous? *L* But in any
case, I wouldn't want to be judged based on my ethnicity, nor would I
appreciate people riding on my coat tails based on my background.
Hechizo
>Date: 2/25/00 8:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <20000225202335...@ng-bk1.aol.com>
Nope... I've seen Isabel Preysler's picture and she doesn't look Spaniard (or
Dirty Sick Pig
>
> Chip were you born at Lake Forest?
Nope, at Illinois Masonic Hospital (inside the Chicago city limits).
That makes me a natural born windbag from the Windy City. I'm now a
naturalized Tejano that can sing Conjunto while munching on Serranos in
the shade of a Saguaro behind the Alamo.
Damn, right now I would kill for a gyro from Elston Avenue. And fried
breaded shrimp and frog legs from North and Halsted.
Gene and Jodi Anotado
man without a nationality.
What is a Filipino? If you were born in the islands called the
Philippines, you would be one.
The original inhabitants of the phillipine islands were not the
majority of the people living there today. So, who are you to tell
people who they are.
A friend of mine in LA works in a clinic where Enrique was treated
for an undisclosed minor problem spoke to him about his lineage. He
proudly claimed his Filipino Heritage. In magazine interviews, he always
claims his Filipno backgroud.
TANNED C0C0NUT
>claims his Filipno backgroud.
>
Tales? Enumerate those mainstream magazines and their corresponding dates.
Kalaninuiana`olekaumaiiluna Mondoy
Gene and Jodi Anotado wrote:
>
> If my racial makeup determines what i am suppose to be, I would be a
> man without a nationality.
> What is a Filipino? If you were born in the islands called the
> Philippines, you would be one.
> The original inhabitants of the phillipine islands were not the
> majority of the people living there today. So, who are you to tell
> people who they are.
I can't agree w/ that entirely. Especially w/ The Phils. We're talking
about a country where even the inhabitants where defined (Primarily of
Malay stock) who have been in the archipelago for centuries before the
Europeans even set foot there. And it's not like a slew of Europeans
went there and mixed w/ every single existing native there. And this
happened more than 300 years ago which lasted up to ???? What, late
1800's?
fernando...@gmail.com
> This was posted yesterday on Yahoo! by ejose1
>
> If you mean Enrique Iglesias and Julio Jose Jr. are part-Filipino because their
> mother was born and raised in the Philippines - even if her parentage, physical
> appearance and demeanor is full Spanish - then so be it. What is the big
> problem here? I worked at Elizalde Company in Manila where Isabel's father was
> a treasurer.
>
> Not because a person was born, raised and has acquired Filipino citizenship,
> he/she is full-blooded Filipino. How about tracing the Preysler family tree
> and see if there is Filipino blood in them. Filipino citizens, maybe yes, but
> true blooded Filipino????? I DOUBT IT!!! There are a lot of Spaniards and
> Chinese in the Philippines who are Filipino citizens, claiming they are
> Filipinos, but their country of origin is not the Philippines nor does it mean
>
fernando...@gmail.com
fernando...@gmail.com
> This was posted yesterday on Yahoo! by ejose1
>
> If you mean Enrique Iglesias and Julio Jose Jr. are part-Filipino because their
> mother was born and raised in the Philippines - even if her parentage, physical
> appearance and demeanor is full Spanish - then so be it. What is the big
> problem here? I worked at Elizalde Company in Manila where Isabel's father was
> a treasurer.
>
> Not because a person was born, raised and has acquired Filipino citizenship,
> he/she is full-blooded Filipino. How about tracing the Preysler family tree
> and see if there is Filipino blood in them. Filipino citizens, maybe yes, but
> true blooded Filipino????? I DOUBT IT!!! There are a lot of Spaniards and
> Chinese in the Philippines who are Filipino citizens, claiming they are
> Filipinos, but their country of origin is not the Philippines nor does it mean
> that they have any Filipino blood. The same thing with Filipinos who were born
> and raised in the US and acquired American citizenship. It does not mean that
> they are Americans. Their country of origin is still the Philippines. That
> holds true with Isabel Preysler.
>
> ejo...@yahoo.com
fernando...@gmail.com
> This was posted yesterday on Yahoo! by ejose1
>
> If you mean Enrique Iglesias and Julio Jose Jr. are part-Filipino because their
> mother was born and raised in the Philippines - even if her parentage, physical
> appearance and demeanor is full Spanish - then so be it. What is the big
> problem here? I worked at Elizalde Company in Manila where Isabel's father was
> a treasurer.
>
> Not because a person was born, raised and has acquired Filipino citizenship,
> he/she is full-blooded Filipino. How about tracing the Preysler family tree
> and see if there is Filipino blood in them. Filipino citizens, maybe yes, but
> true blooded Filipino????? I DOUBT IT!!! There are a lot of Spaniards and
> Chinese in the Philippines who are Filipino citizens, claiming they are
> Filipinos, but their country of origin is not the Philippines nor does it mean
> that they have any Filipino blood. The same thing with Filipinos who were born
> and raised in the US and acquired American citizenship. It does not mean that
> they are Americans. Their country of origin is still the Philippines. That
> holds true with Isabel Preysler.
>
> ejo...@yahoo.com
