What is the origin of the word 'Pinoy' ?
Marcosado
Robert Ramos wrote:
> Is there any truth to this? References to documented sources
> supporting or not supporting this are very welcome. Thanks
Documented sources? What's that? Why don't you ask if Imelda Marcos's
income
is documented? Or how about Juan Ponce Enrile's income? How about
Ayala's?
Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. :)
Marcosado
Robert Ramos
I think you should be very careful about using words such as 'stupid'. The
question is a legitimate and one, whether such documentation of history is
in the form of a chapter in history books, journals or other historical
artifacts. On the other hand, history might itself document Imelda's
wealth someday...:)
Robert Ramos
Dear fellow SCFers,
I'm interested in the beginnings of the word 'Pinoy'.
Though it is commonly used to refer to Filipinos in the Philippines,
I was told yesterday that its origins come from the US between 1900-1950,
as meaning Filipino-American.
Is there any truth to this? References to documented sources
supporting or not supporting this are very welcome. Thanks
Robert
that's me
Marcosado wrote:
>
> Filipinos
> have a problem recording their own history. Most documents about
> Filipinos were written by foreigners and the information although
> somewhat believable are filled with errors and half-truths. Most
> Filipinos today cannot even tell you who killed Benigno Aquino.
>
no need to feel too badly about that; many americans can't identify
the united states on a world map...
ronald!davis
chicago south side representin'
Romy M Abacan
CVC wrote:
>
> as per http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~flip/history1.html :
>
> under "Pinoy":
>
> It is believed that the term Pinoy to mean Filipino originated from the
> early Filipinos who came to the United States. The Manongs (uncles) as
> the "oldtimers" were also known called themselves Pinoys to distinguish
> themselves from Filipinos living in the Philippines. (Contributed partly
> by Dawn Bohulano Mabalon whose family has been using the term
> Pinoy/Pinay since the 1920's.)
* * * * * * * * * *
It's true that the early Filipinos in Hawaii called themselves Pinoys,
but only due to disgust for what the Americans were calling them then;
Phillipinows; Phillipinoys; Filipinoys; Flips, etc., it was confusing
for Americans to say Pilipino, so the word Pinoy was more accepted
because it was shorter and easy to pronounce.
Marcosado
Romy M Abacan wrote:
> > It is believed that the term Pinoy to mean Filipino originated from the
> > early Filipinos who came to the United States. The Manongs (uncles) as
> > the "oldtimers" were also known called themselves Pinoys to distinguish
> > themselves from Filipinos living in the Philippines. (Contributed partly
> > by Dawn Bohulano Mabalon whose family has been using the term
> > Pinoy/Pinay since the 1920's.)
>
> * * * * * * * * * *
> It's true that the early Filipinos in Hawaii called themselves Pinoys,
> but only due to disgust for what the Americans were calling them then;
> Phillipinows; Phillipinoys; Filipinoys; Flips, etc., it was confusing
> for Americans to say Pilipino, so the word Pinoy was more accepted
> because it was shorter and easy to pronounce.
Hey guys, just make sure these 'stories' get an official stamp of
approval by being entered in the history books ok? Your children and
grandchildren will ask the same question one day and it would be nice
if they can use these 'factual statements' for reference.
So Flibonics existed long before Ebonics and the whites started it. We
all know these folks can't spell worth a shit even today. BTW, I like
the way you presented the evolution of the 'pinoy' word. I guess I'll
have to believe that.
Marcosado
that's me
Marcosado wrote:
>
> that's me wrote:
>
> > no need to feel too badly about that; many americans can't identify
> > the united states on a world map...
>
> You guys sure found the Philippines when you needed that cute bride! :)
> You're saying many americans need glasses, right?
>
not at all, the guys who were looking for the "cute bride" *paid* a
mail order bride operator to know where the philippines (and the brides)
were for them. then when they wanted to meet the bride they *paid* an
airplane pilot to know how to get them there. you see, with a few
dollars here and a few dollars there, you really don't have to know
anything...then again "a fool and his money..."
Marcosado
Robert Ramos wrote:
> I will refrain from editorializing on your colorful adjectives of 'stupid'
> and 'ignorant', leaving room for a friendly chuckle as I leave. I have no
> time anymore anyway for your amusing wise cracks and cynicism.
You must really hate me by now, just like those poor Filipino farm
workers hated their white masters as he ridiculed them with all kinds
of derogatory names like monkeys, pygmies, brown boy, and Pilipino boy.
Pinoy, just like Flip, is a derogatory brand for Pilipino farm workers
and is a contraction of Pilipino boy. As usual, there's no official
document that will prove it. Good luck on your hunt for the truth.
Marcosado
Pedro Penduko
Noong panahon ng ng mga manongs, sa Sacramento, maraming manong na Ilokano
at iba ay bisaya, minsan ay nagtanong ang bisya, "manong, pinoy (penoy) ba
'yan?" Sagot ang Ilokano, "hindi manong, pilipino pero okay na rin ang
Pinoy!" :>] saksakan ng pa kornihan :>}
--
Pedro Penduko
^ ________^
^ ^
^ " Subukan pamu, para mabalu ! "
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Rhett Valino Pascual
In article <334F12...@tezcat.com>, that's me <ron...@tezcat.com> wrote:
>Marcosado wrote:
Most
>> Filipinos today cannot even tell you who killed Benigno Aquino.
Bwahahahhaa. WIll you tell us Marcosa who killed Benigno Aquino? Are you
going to show us that brilliant mind you have which has been masquerading
as a troll?
Do tell us who killed aquino. Then, why don't you trace the commands from
the assassin to the actual person who gave the order.
and if you say it was marcos, boy, you better have proof. otherwise, i
won't believe you.
REtong
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Nico Rodin Tuason
:
: On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Robert Ramos wrote:
:
: >
: > Dear fellow SCFers,
: >
: > I'm interested in the beginnings of the word 'Pinoy'.
: > Though it is commonly used to refer to Filipinos in the Philippines,
: > I was told yesterday that its origins come from the US between 1900-1950,
: > as meaning Filipino-American.
: >
: > Is there any truth to this? References to documented sources
: > supporting or not supporting this are very welcome. Thanks
No direct references, but from various conferences I have attended, I've
heard that it is from the manong generation. The term "pinoy" was adopted
by those in the US in the 1920-1930's to refer to themselves, to
differentiate from Pilipinos in the Philippines.
If you find references, please let me know.
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Jeff N.
In article <5jdo5s$71e$1...@mark.ucdavis.edu>,
Above is the "official" explanation I heard too.
However, pinoy or penoy also refers to early balut (ie fertilized egg but the
chick is not developed yet) ... so maybe they referred to themselves as pinoys
because they are penoy-eating people?
:-)
Jeff N.
Northwestern University, Chicago, IL. USA
jan...@lulu.acns.nwu.edu
martin
Jeff N. <jan...@lulu.acns.nwu.edu> wrote
:
: Above is the "official" explanation I heard too.
:
: However, pinoy or penoy also refers to early balut (ie fertilized egg but
the
: chick is not developed yet) ... so maybe they referred to themselves as
pinoys
: because they are penoy-eating people?
:
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