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Who is Ninez Cacho Olivares?

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pepeton j'anton

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Jun 14, 2001, 1:23:19 AM6/14/01
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Anybody have any background check on this media person?

Pepeton

R

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Jun 14, 2001, 1:34:22 AM6/14/01
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As far as I know she's been around as a Philippine media/entertainment
personality for quite long time, even during Marcos' tenure.

From the impression you're giving us, you're the last person I would think who's
not familiar with her.

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aj pascual

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Jun 14, 2001, 1:33:23 AM6/14/01
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see egaycabalo ' paper reform '

i think ninez is the idiot who publish this piece:

Daily Tribune - Editorial
June 9, 2001
http://www.tribune.net.ph/

The World Bank warned the Arroyo administration that the country is
not out of the woods yet and that more economic reforms have to be
effected since "significant risks" remained on business confidence.

But the country can never truly be out of the woods &#8212; at least
not in the near future &#8212; even if the economic reforms the
international creditors insist on are made.

The reason is simple: Reforms, whether economic or political or even
environmental, passed through legislative measures, always remain
paper reforms in this country, under any government and thus fail to
bring about improvement in the economic or political climate.

To international creditors and big business, the passage of the power
reform bill was a major economic achievement. Yet what will this
reform measure do, for either the Filipino people or the country?

There is no guarantee that the electricity rates will be lowered and
maintained at an affordable level. Already, for a poor country, the
Philippines ranks second to Japan, in having the most expensive
electricity rates in Asia. It won't be too long before the Philippines
outranks Japan, if past privatization projects are the measure.

Besides which, a chunk of that Napocor debt was incurred basically
because, during the Ramos regime, under his so-called emergency
powers, there was an overpurchase of the build, operate and transfer
(BOT) power generating plants, many of which are not operational, but
which the people still had to pay for, under the Napocor loans.

So was there a need for the government to fill the country with an
excess of the BOT plants? So why didn't the international creditors
put their foot down on this, if only to rein in the Ramos
administration?

But why should they when the foreigners and their Filipino partners
are given the opportunity to do business in the country which the
International Monetary Fund and World Bank approve of, anyway?

Take the water agency which was privatized. On offer at the start was
the conglomerate's assurance that the rates would be lowered and that
services would improve.

Fat chance. Not only was a hefty increase pushed shortly after the
takeover, but services were more than shoddy, with water supply coming
in trickles, if at all, in some areas.

Maynilad, a private concessionaire, is now bellyaching, demanding
increased rates or else. But isn't this a private organization now?
And weren't these businessmen so certain they could make a go of it
once privatized? But what is this? Even after grabbing the water pie,
it now demands loans from the government (guaranteed, no doubt, by the
country) but without even bothering to provide residents with better
services.

Or take the E-Vat, that tax measure that was hyped up by the then
Ramos administration as the miracle cure for our economic ills.
Apparently, this hardly proved to be a cure, much less a miracle,
since the government continues to operate on a huge deficit and E-Vat
collections aren't quite that cut and dried for them to become an easy
task of fattening up the budget. So what else will be concocted, an
expanded E-Vat, even when clearly, this was yet another congressional
rush job?

Or take the privatization of Petron or the bill deregulating oil.
Wasn't big business claiming that this measure would definitely give
the economy a boost, with the entry of new and major players?

Today, consumers are paying a hefty price for oil products, with no
relief in sight. And to think we don't have winter in this country.

And what's our economic picture today? Is it any better, with a measly
2.5-percent gross domestic product growth in the first quarter of the
year? And is the political situation any better?

What good are the reforms being pushed by the World Bank if these
legislated reforms remain on paper and if they do not do anything to
alleviate the economic conditions?

So the country places Napocor on sale. Are things going to get any
better for the country and the people, specially when the rates start
shooting up?

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Renowl

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Jun 14, 2001, 11:05:26 AM6/14/01
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i saw before on tv when i was young she must be an old geezer by now.

Egay Cabalo

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Jun 14, 2001, 12:39:23 PM6/14/01
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pusong...@aol.com (pepeton j'anton) wrote in message news:<ad0e6863.01061...@posting.google.com>...

> Anybody have any background check on this media person?
>
> Pepeton


Why puketon? What's the big deal dumbass? Akala ko ba marami kang kakilala sa media?


Love


Egay

pepeton j'anton

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Jun 14, 2001, 6:13:25 PM6/14/01
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I don't know this person at all. I do know many in the news media,
investigative reporting circle...opinion makers, but not her. That's
not to say she is not in this circle either. If she is, I certainly
don't know her, and very little of her. It's possible, she might be
in media entertainment. And
there, I hardly know anybody, not even familiar with any.

Pepeton


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aj pascual

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Jun 14, 2001, 7:13:43 PM6/14/01
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bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha

aj pascual

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Jun 14, 2001, 8:19:18 PM6/14/01
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Ninez is a nobody with no deeceent job.....


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Mark Llacuna

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Jun 14, 2001, 9:32:29 PM6/14/01
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She used to work for the Philippine Daily Inquirer.

Here are two opinion columns that made mention of her...

http://www.inquirer.net/issues/aug2000/aug28/opinion/palab.htm

http://www.inquirer.net/issues/jul2000/jul03/opinion/palab.htm

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Rux

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Jun 15, 2001, 2:23:39 PM6/15/01
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"pepeton j'anton" <pusong...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Anybody have any background check on this media person?

She works for PDI. She has two eyes, two ears, a mouth, and poops on a toilet bowl just
like the rest of us.


Rick Gonzalez

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Jun 15, 2001, 10:10:05 PM6/15/01
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she is a Marcos apologist of old who wrote in the Herald before martial law
and I think in the Bulletin during the long dark years.

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tulisan

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Jun 17, 2001, 11:22:09 PM6/17/01
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that's not so. Ninez Cacho Olivares made her mark in Philippine journ by
writing virulently and fearlessly against Marcos. when Edsa 1 happened, she
celebrated Cory's ascent and expected to manage Channel 13 which was
sequestered by the government. it was almost a done deal, but she woke up
one morning to find out that Noel Tolentino (who was the husband of crony of
Cory who helped her get where she was) was made head honcho of 13. To make
things worse, Tolentino was completely useless and it was obvious that it
was a political favor. Olivares got bitter about this and started writing
about Cory. the problem is that she started going to extremes, so that her
hard-earned credibility started to suffer. a pity, because she was right on
target with many of her accusations against Cory who was then still regarded
as a saint by many. faced with so much opposition, she went further out
into extremes so that in the end she was identified as belonging to the
lunatic fringe. and so, aj pascual is right... she ended up a nobody.
tulisan


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Egay Cabalo

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"tulisan" <tul...@pacific.net.ph> wrote in message news:<9gjs85$82c$1...@newton.pacific.net.sg>...

> that's not so. Ninez Cacho Olivares made her mark in Philippine journ by
> writing virulently and fearlessly against Marcos. when Edsa 1 happened, she
> celebrated Cory's ascent and expected to manage Channel 13 which was
> sequestered by the government. it was almost a done deal, but she woke up
> one morning to find out that Noel Tolentino (who was the husband of crony of
> Cory who helped her get where she was) was made head honcho of 13. To make
> things worse, Tolentino was completely useless and it was obvious that it
> was a political favor. Olivares got bitter about this and started writing
> about Cory. the problem is that she started going to extremes, so that her
> hard-earned credibility started to suffer. a pity, because she was right on
> target with many of her accusations against Cory who was then still regarded
> as a saint by many. faced with so much opposition, she went further out
> into extremes so that in the end she was identified as belonging to the
> lunatic fringe. and so, aj pascual is right... she ended up a nobody.
> tulisan
>

O ano Puketon, narinig mo ang tungkol kay Olivares. Kaya yang black
propaganda mo di na uubra dito. Salsalin mo na lang yang titi mo at
lunukin mo ang tamod mo.

Ang hirap kasi sa inyo. Panay ang paniwala ninyo sa bulok na Puketon
de Kantot na yan. Akala ninyo gaganda ang pamumuhay pag pinalitan ni
Gloria labandera at kanyag mga tsutsu katulad ni Roco. Ayan lalong
naghihirap ang bansa.


Love


Egay

aj pascual

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Jun 18, 2001, 8:48:43 PM6/18/01
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ay naku....prend na sila ni TULISAN

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Tvarriola

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Jun 21, 2001, 11:27:55 PM6/21/01
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>Subject: Who is Ninez Cacho Olivares?

>Date: 01/06/14 12:23 Central Daylight Time
>Message-id:

The first time I noticed her was when she was in the Bulletin Today during the
Marcos years. She got my attention and started subscribing on every newspaper
she was in. She left Bulletin Today and I found out she was in the Business
World and finally in the PDI. For unknown reason, she left PDI, but just
recently, I found out she is in the new, but fast becoming favorite newspaper
in the country -The Philippine Tribune which I believe she owns, you can read
her by accessing this "www.tribune.net.ph"

Ninez is one of the most neutral and bravest newspaper persons in the country
that I know (lahat inaatake nya). Yes, she worked in the sequestered network
for a while just like Dolphy, but they both resigned, can't stand the SIPSIPAN
AND SIRAAN by the people who obviously wanted to get the juicy position.

She hosted the last two presidential elections by inviting the presidential
candidates in her house for a dinner.

Ninez Cacho Olivares has a sister-in-law in PDI who is also a columnist and
the wife of a general.

As far as I know, she is one of the most successful columnists in the
Philippines.

On a lighter note, I love her...

It's hard to believe that some people claim that they are in the media business
(radyo, telebisyon at dyario, alin man dito) but they don't know Ninez.

pepeton j'anton

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Jun 22, 2001, 6:22:40 PM6/22/01
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"Mark Llacuna" <mlla...@nortelnetworks.com> wrote in message news:<9gbomj$rir$1...@nrchh45.us.nortel.com>...

Thanks for the lead, Mark. Can you add to what Rudy Palabarica wrote
(very briefly) about her in his two columns? For example, why did she
resign {or asked to resign} from Phil Daily Inquirer), shortly after
taking a position that evidently was not supportive of her employer's
(then) position regarding acfreedom of the press (especially when Phil
Daily Inquirer was being persecuted by Estrada). Was Cacho a
pro-Erap?

pepeton j'anton

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Jun 22, 2001, 6:36:01 PM6/22/01
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Senyor AJ Limahong, be careful...egay cabalo (notice name spelling,
"wala siyang *K*), might get upset...(so what's new)...and depressed
(again) -
word is out that egay -the meri mutt- is being considered for a job by
this same person...eh paano, kung pareho palang jobless???
bwahahahaha! Salbahe ka.

Pepeton

p.s. contact me directly for some updates on that P.L. case with
E.D.L. in Canada. ;)

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pepeton j'anton

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Jun 22, 2001, 6:45:34 PM6/22/01
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Based on other postings here, she USED to work with Phil Daily
Inquirer. What is interesting would be to find out why she resigned
or was asked to quit?
She may have all the *physiological* make-up of common senses...but
that hardly guarantees her (or anyone, for that matter) of having a
"common sense", does it?

Rather, and more succinctly, as a columnist or newsreporter she would
have
an "opinion" - which - like an *a-hole*, each one of us has. ;)

Pepeton

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pepeton j'anton

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Jun 22, 2001, 6:59:51 PM6/22/01
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According to the column of Raul Palabrica of PDI, (referenced by
another poster, here in this thread), Ninez Cacho Olivares was a
benefactor (and practitioner of this policy, Egay. So if you want to
get the job with Phil. Daily Tribune that you are so desperately
applying to get...you should heed the practices of your prospective
ultimate boss...

Don't be ashamed to admit that you are promoting Phil Daily Tribune in
this newsgroup as part of your "practicum" and condition for
employment. Pagbutihin mo, ihong, nothing to be ashamed of...trabaho
din yan.

Nobody is laughing at you....(yet).... :D

Pepeton (hindi mo pa rin kaya)


Egay reminder (policy advocated by PDI benefitting Egay's (ex)future
boss.

<<<While the columnists are free to articulate their thoughts as they
please, there are some unwritten rules that the newspaper expects them
to follow. Foremost of these rules is the use of temperate or polite
language. No name-calling. No personal attacks. The discussion should
focus on the issues. In other words, they should disagree without
being disagreeable>>>

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pepeton j'anton

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Jun 22, 2001, 7:02:54 PM6/22/01
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Is she also a "pro-erap" or an "erap-apologist" ?

Pepeton


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pepeton j'anton

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Jun 22, 2001, 7:08:01 PM6/22/01
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If this is the case Rick G, then she must also be a supporter of
Danding Cojuangco, who is now facing charges for his complicity in the
questionable takeover of the Manila Bulletin during the same
period...along with Campos, and another individual whose name escapes
me.

Interesting how things unearth themselves when one takes off the
blinders that delimits one's vision and renders one's perceptive
ability lazy.

Thanks for the input.

Pepeton

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pepeton j'anton

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Jun 22, 2001, 7:40:05 PM6/22/01
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Tulisan, greetings, it's been a while since we had a chance to
exchange views.Thanks for the input. I am beginning to get a sense of
who this Ninez is.
Though, I still do not remember her as a "political" writer.

I recall, very faintly, however that I had a one time exchange of
comments with a "Cacho" (but this was back in early 90's, late 80's).
This Cacho wrote something about the US-FDA - complaining or
criticising something about the US-FDA's labelling and packaging
requirements that was prejudicial to the Philippine exporters' ability
to get their "consummable exports" pass Customs and FDA inspection.
Something like that. The FDA (packaging and labelling)
Section in San Francisco referred this "complaint" to me for my
comments, since at that time I was directly involved in the food
business. I don't remember much of the details...except that she
pointed the error in her column to the local FDA in the Philippines,
after I explained to her that the "unfair practice" she was
complaining about had been solved at least 5 years before she
complained. I don't even remember if her comments were part of a
newspaper columnor was just one of those "letters to an action line"
type comment.

Why the name Cacho rings a bell is because I know the Cacho Hermanos &
family rather well. And I know she is not related to them. But Noel
Tolentino is married to a Cacho of the Cacho Hermanos & Family, if you
are talking about a Tolentino who used to be in the TV business and
was a graduate of De La Salle College.I knew a Noel who used to come
out on TV shows as an actor and also produced a few shows himself. Are
we talking of the same guy?

As for Channel 13, the last two CEOs there that I know personally were
Tomas "Buddy" Gomez III, (who got the job in recognition of his
efforts of keeping an eye on the Marcoses during their exile in Hawaii
- and partly because Buddy was one of the closest friend of Ninoy
Aquino. The last that I know is Boots Anson-Roa (daughter of Oscar
Moreno - an old movie matinee idol).
As it turned out, Boots was a "pro-erap". Buddy was a Cory-man. I
doubt if he was a "pro-erap".

Which now raises the question, as far as you know, is Ninez Cacho (is
it Oliveras, or Olivares...I think it is the former, though not sure.)
And secondarily, why did she quit (or was asked to quit) the PDI?

Pepeton

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pepeton j'anton

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Jun 22, 2001, 8:08:20 PM6/22/01
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egay cabalo - a.k.a. mutt meri - the rabid ranting poster - who was
the object of the song - "who let this dog, out - who? who? who?" -
before the "humane society" puts you away [for good], take note:

1. Read Tulisan's posting again. Ok, let me put it in another simple
way: "Basahin mo uli ang sinulat ni Tulisan" - at intindihin mo ng
maigi bago ka sumagot!

2. Tulisan pointed out very clearly that Ninez is an "extremist" -
blow
hot, blow cold...(or like you, "blow ng blow"). And that is why she
ended up where she is now - a nobody...

3. But since you are an obsessed poster - you only see what you want
to see...and because you are verbally-challenged, you cannot
express
yourself without resorting to profanities.

4. Read this simple lesson now, and learn: "Nothing is in the
intellect
that is not first perceived by the senses." (That is why you do not
and cannot dream of the future)- Forget this last one, medyo
malalim
para sa iyo yan. Just memorize it, like you are able to memorize
all
the countless "aliases" you use to log into different chat
fora.(madaming fo ra ang ibig sabihin niyan).

5. If your senses are defective, your perceptive ability will also be
faulty. In both cases, indications are strong that you need therapy
and corrective treatment. Until you can cure this deficiency, you
will continue to be in a state of "rage and turmoil" - bubbling
about,
cussing and complaining, bitching and name-calling - again, and
again,
just like the "fool who struts and frets upon the stage....{drum
roll}
full of sound and fury...signifying nothing but emptiness..."

6. Do yourself a favor. Read Tulisan's posting again...ten times, if
need be...so that you can understand exactly what the message is...
before you savor a bit of schadenfreude (don't bother looking up
the
meaning - I just made up that word today, just for you).

Pepeton (pa rin)
*pusongpinoye2 - I carve out hearts for free...if you want it
painless, you have to pay for the anaesthesia)- a.k.a. "hindi mo ako
kaya, Egay".



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tvar...@cs.comnojunk (Tvarriola) wrote in message news:<20010621232755...@ng-cd1.news.cs.com>...

> >Subject: Who is Ninez Cacho Olivares?
>
> >Date: 01/06/14 12:23 Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id:
>
> The first time I noticed her was when she was in the Bulletin Today during the
> Marcos years. She got my attention and started subscribing on every newspaper
> she was in. She left Bulletin Today and I found out she was in the Business
> World and finally in the PDI.

This is what we call in reporting or journalism as "objective
statements-verifiable by facts." Thanks for the lead.

For unknown reason, she left PDI, but just
> recently, I found out she is in the new, but fast becoming favorite newspaper
> in the country -The Philippine Tribune which I believe she owns, you can read
> her by accessing this "www.tribune.net.ph"

This is what makes news...the real reason why she left (or was asked
to leave) Phil Daily Inquirer. The other part...about the Phil.
Tribune being "fast becoming favorite newspaper", could very well be
the subject matter of another discussion, which evidently one of the
poster in here is hell-bent (as in desperately) trying to establish by
citing articles from this paper (as a favored reference, for
instance).


>
> Ninez is one of the most neutral and bravest newspaper persons in the country
> that I know (lahat inaatake nya).

Your suggested "working standard" or criterion for "neutrality and
courage" in journalism - is rather questionable. You will find very
few subscribers to the credo that "neutrality and courage is measured
in terms of attacking everybody".
This is very close to the "egay-cabalo" syndrome, that the more
virulent the attack, the more credible... I do not subscribe to this
thinking.

Yes, she worked in the sequestered network

> for a while just like Dolphy, but they both resigned, can stand the SIPSIPAN


> AND SIRAAN by the people who obviously wanted to get the juicy position.
>

There is nothing necessarily wrong with people wanting and jockeying
for the juicy positions, is there? You are surmising, I think, that
she and Dolphy both resigned because of "internal company politics" -
might be a guided deduction, but still a guess, right?

> She hosted the last two presidential elections by inviting the presidential
> candidates in her house for a dinner.

This is an example of incomplete (but intriguing) reporting. So, what
was the purpose of the dinner? Who attended? What was accomplished?
What does the gesture suggest to you?

Let me explain a bit. I also know of Christopher Carreon, one of the
stalwarts of EDSA ONE - and an acknowledged Cory Aquino supporter. He
was also known later on as an FVR supporter. Time was when Cory and
FVR did not see eye-to-eye. as in the FVR-inspired/conspired move to
extend (albeit, perpetuate) his term of office through a
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT - can you say CON-CON?

Cory went public and ostentatiously denounced such move. FVR was
livid (privately). Chris arranged for a dinner, at his home - and
invited both of themto "dinner, chika-chika, beso-beso"...MISSION
ACCOMPLISHED.

Now, your turn, what happened to the dinner arranged by Ninez?
Outcome report please?


>
> Ninez Cacho Olivares has a sister-in-law in PDI who is also a columnist and
> the wife of a general.

Please to expand posting to include name of husband and sister-in-law
and relevance of this revelation to the reputation of Ninez as a
newspaper woman?


>
> As far as I know, she is one of the most successful columnists in the
> Philippines.

We will let that go at that. It is your call!


>
> On a lighter note, I love her...
>

On a serious note, I believe you. Love means never having to
say..."who said so?"


> It's hard to believe that some people claim that they are in the media business
> (radyo, telebisyon at dyario, alin man dito) but they don't know Ninez.

Will you consider a redirect? Respecting your emotional involvement
with her, I really do not know her professionally. Without intending
to put her down, my association with media (as a consultant with a PR
agency based in the Philippines)puts me in direct working relationship
with highly-specialized media personnel, primarily. As in,
investigative journalists, as in pollsters, as in tri-media).

My professional involvement in research consulting (focus in intl.
mktg and econic research) puts me in direct contact with a different
breed of "media specialized writers".

I don't know her as having participated or having been involved in a
significant (journalistic) way in any of these two "specialized
groupings of media personnel, that I have been dealing with on a
fairly regular basis.

As for "political-analysts-columnists" - I do have a very selective
group who I keep in touch with - and she is simply not in my
"cyberbarkada" list. That is why, I really do not know her,
professionally or otherwise.

However, I have noticed that lately, the Philippine Tribune articles
have been appearing as a posting here, and a casual check revealed
that the publisher of this newspaper (which you believe is fast
becoming a favorite), is this Ninez..I was just curious to find out a
little bit more about her professional background and her political
position, about people empowerment and stuff.

Nothing serious that will threaten or go in-between your "heart throb"
for her.

Pepeton
a.k.a. pusong pinoye2 (my heart is a graveyard of *still-born*
desires)./

Between this two groups of media people,

Egay Cabalo

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Jun 23, 2001, 11:35:00 AM6/23/01
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Dear Puketon de Kantot,

I'm no journalist. Wala akong pakialam kung sino man yang hindot na
Ninez Cacho Olivares na yan. I've never been a journalist and will
never be one. Hindi rin ako si Matt Meri. I happen to read Daily
Tribune because I always borrow from my neighbor's security guard. I
also read Bulgar, Abante and Tonite-Abante. Malibog kasi ako.

Why are you so much engrossed with who I really am? Gusto mo bang
magpatsupa sa akin? Siguro bakla ka rin. Nagseselos ka ano? Gusto
mo sigurong magpatira sa pwet.

Are you threatened with the articles I post? Natatakot ka dahil baka
yang katarantaduhan ninyo ni Roco ay mabulgar? Marami ka na sigurong
nakurakot sa administrasyon ni Gloria labandera ano?

Magpost ka lang ng magpost ng mga balita o mga black propaganda mo.
Pesteng yawa ka yang pukinginang gasolina tumaas na naman ba't hindi
mo ilagay dito? Tarantado ka talaga. Sige at maghihirit ka pa.


Love


Egay



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Egay Cabalo

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Jun 23, 2001, 6:14:33 PM6/23/01
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Black propagandist ka talaga. Magkano ba ang bayad sa 'yo ng mga
kurakot mong amo? Wala ka nang dangal at puri sa pagkatao mo. Email
mo ako privately kung kailangan mo ng trabaho na matino. Kakasesante
ko lang ng boy ko dahil inunahan ako sa batuta ng security guard.
Bakla din pala! Ikaw bakla ka rin ba?


Love

Egay

PS Hindi kita kaya Puketon dahil mabigat ang bayag mo pero maliit ang
titi mo.

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Tvarriola

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Subject: Re: Who is Ninez Cacho Olivares?
From: pusong...@aol.com (pepeton j'anton)


>> For unknown reason, she left PDI, but just
>> recently, I found out she is in the new, but fast becoming favorite
newspaper
>> in the country -The Philippine Tribune which I believe she owns, you can
read
>> her by accessing this "www.tribune.net.ph"

>This is what makes news...the real reason why she left (or was asked
>to leave) Phil Daily Inquirer. The other part...about the Phil.
>Tribune being "fast becoming favorite newspaper", could very well be
>the subject matter of another discussion,

My mistake, it wasn't The Philipine Tribune, It's THE DAILY TRIBUNE
www.tribune.net.ph

>which evidently one of the
>poster in here is hell-bent (as in desperately) trying to establish by
>citing articles from this paper (as a favored reference, for
>instance).

I don't know whom you are referring to since I don't frequently visit this
newsgroup for the past few months or should I say even up to the present days.
I just come here from time to time whenever I'm a little less busy. Anyway, I
admire you for using adjectives in describing a person whom for obvious
reasons don't share the same views as yours. I don't see anything wrong with
that, especially in this newsgroup, everybody is free to quote and unqoute.
Ano ba ang gusto mo, yung views mo lang ang mababasa?


>> Ninez is one of the most neutral and bravest newspaper persons in the
country
>> that I know (lahat inaatake nya).

>Your suggested "working standard" or criterion for "neutrality and
>courage" in journalism - is rather questionable.

Who set that standard? You?...The mainstream media? If you don't believe me,
fine with me, but that is my view and belief and you could never change that.
Even if you bombard me with your fantastic verbs and adjectives in your
explanation to convince me, I will stand on my belief. Opinion is always an
opinion, there is no such thing as "the wrong opinion"

>few subscribers to the credo that "neutrality and courage is measured
>in terms of attacking everybody".
>This is very close to the "egay-cabalo" syndrome, that the more
>virulent the attack, the more credible... I do not subscribe to this
>thinking.

I read some of Egays' posts in the past and found it funny and amusing, though
they were full of foul language.

>Yes, she worked in the sequestered network
> for a while just like Dolphy, but they both resigned, can stand the SIPSIPAN
> AND SIRAAN by the people who obviously wanted to get the juicy position.
>

>There is nothing necessarily wrong with people wanting and jockeying
>for the juicy positions, is there?

Aiming high is one thing people should do, but back-stabbing is one thing I
hate. Geez, I thought only from low income bracket , less educated and insecure
people were doing this, I was wrong! Even people who graduated from reputable
schools such as UP, Ateneo and others are continually practicing this. Mas
malala pag dating sa kontratahan sa gobyerno, talagang "ang mamatay ng dahil
sa iyo!" Kwartang malaki kasi! Ang mahalaga sa maraming Filipino ay Kwarta,
kwarta,kwarta. Honor? Wala yan...hindi naman nakakain yan.

>> She hosted the last two presidential elections by inviting the presidential
>> candidates in her house for a dinner.

>This is an example of incomplete (but intriguing) reporting. So, what
>was the purpose of the dinner? Who attended? What was accomplished?
>What does the gesture suggest to you?

As far as I can remember, it was just a casual dinner and with no strings
attached. It was a wonderful spread with matching paella ni Ninez. Who
attended? Definitely, Morato and his likes are out (nuisance candidates)



>Please to expand posting to include name of husband and sister-in-law
>and relevance of this revelation to the reputation of Ninez as a
>newspaper woman?

Oh, c'mon man...you're not a spoon-feeding type of person, are you?



>> As far as I know, she is one of the most successful columnists in the
>> Philippines.

>We will let that go at that. It is your call!

I guess she's proud to be called a nobody unlike other media people-completely
a nobody but feels like a "somebody".

>>On a lighter note, I love her...

>On a serious note, I believe you. Love means never having to
>say..."who said so?"

I wasn't sorry

>> It's hard to believe that some people claim that they are in the media
business
>> (radyo, telebisyon at dyario, alin man dito) but they don't know Ninez.

>Will you consider a redirect? Respecting your emotional involvement
>with her, I really do not know her professionally.

Wika nga, "BATO...BATO SA LANGIT TAMAAN AY HUWAG MAGAGALIT.

> As for "political-analysts-columnists" - I do >have a very selective
>group who I keep in touch with - and she is >simply not in my
>"cyberbarkada" list. That is why, I really do >not know her,
>professionally or otherwise.

If somebody will approach me and ask, do you know Selma Hayek? I will say with
pride yeah and I think I like her! But do I really know her...hell no- I just
saw her in the movies and mags.

>However, I have noticed that lately, the Philippine Tribune articles
>have been appearing as a posting here,

Is there anything wrong with that? And Again, it was The Daily Tribune-
www.tribune.net.ph

>is this Ninez..I was just curious to find out a
>little bit more about her professional background and her political
>position, about people empowerment and stuff.

You will find out soon

>Nothing serious that will threaten or go in-between your "heart throb"
>for her.

I Love her...man


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