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Dako ang voto

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Jul 13, 2006, 10:11:02 AM7/13/06
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A UP professor may soon turn out to be the biggest killjoy among lechon
lovers.

For those foreign to Philippine culture, lechon is roasted pig cooked
over blazing coals. It is a dish that is almost a fixed part and menu
centerpiece of any Filipino celebration. If you want a more graphic
illustration on cooking lechon, you can try clicking on this very
informative link I found.

The lechon is so popular among Filipinos that you probably won't find a
person here who will tell you he does not like eating it.

Until yesterday.

Professor Ma. Patricia V. Avanza of the Food Science and Nutrition
Department of the UP College of Home Economics spoke yesterday at a
media conference on food safety in Makati City to warn that favorite
Filipino dishes --- delicious lechon included --- are "dangerous"
because they are "top carriers of bacteria and disease."

Whoa!

Maybe that can explain why this happened. I'm also sure there are a lot
of similar unreported cases that we do not know of.

Professor Avanza suggests that a "standardized cooking procedure"
should be applied to lechon. According to her, lechon is usually cooked
in a way that "allows only the outer part to be heated, while the
insides are shielded by the tough skin of the pig," and is "often
treated with additives to achieve that ideal crispiness of its skin."

Hence, the parasites and bacteria in the pig's raw meat might not be
killed by the heat from the burning coals which are used to cook it.

Avanza also warned against isaw or grilled chicken intestines, which
are openly sold in many street corners of the metropolis. She said that
this food item also suffers from improper cooking methods. She
cautioned that the "bitterness" one tastes when eating isaw is an
indication that the chicken intestines still had "fecal matter" in it.

Another food item, she warned about was spaghetti, which is often
cooked in mass quantities during Filipino celebrations and parties. If
stored for more than 24 hours, the spaghetti becomes a strong causative
agent for food poisoning. She cited that "from 1995 to 2004, spaghetti
topped the list of dangerous foods" in the Philippines.

Personally, I do not think it's just lechon, isaw, and spaghetti that
should be monitored. There's also the ever-popular fishballs and
squidballs, and other popular street food items being peddled openly
without any regulating agency monitoring how they were prepared and
cooked.

I hate to be a killjoy like Avanza, but if you think about it, even the
popular treat this man is selling looks suspicious, if you ask me.

This has been going on for years and no one seems to bother. I admit I
also grew up eating these food items. That I am still alive and has no
history of food poisoning in the past might just be a stroke of luck on
my part.

It would really be good if somebody or someone will regulate the proper
handling and cooking of these food items.

Posted by Dr. Emer on Wednesday, June 1
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TAHONG_EATER

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Jul 13, 2006, 10:16:52 AM7/13/06
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gudness gracias! As a Filipino I could not resist lechon .... wada
wada!!!! and too for isaw ... lalo na pag merong sanmiguel beer, ahhhh
sarap ..................

Dirty Sick Pig

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Jul 13, 2006, 1:09:14 PM7/13/06
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I agree wholestomachly, and I enjoy a good Pinoy lechon as any other
konsiyertista. Mejicano lechon is butterflied pig roasted over--not
surrounded by--coals and mesquite chunks. It's tougher and less juicy,
doesn't look good, but definitely safer. Additionally, you cannot eat
the balat!

Half-Baked Pig

Dirty Sick Pig

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Jul 13, 2006, 1:18:03 PM7/13/06
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TAHONG_EATER wrote:
> gudness gracias! As a Filipino I could not resist lechon .... wada
> wada!!!! and too for isaw ... lalo na pag merong sanmiguel beer, ahhhh
> sarap ..................

I never got to eat my most memorable lechon. We were spit turning a
nice de leche in West Virginia, at the backyard of a very rich Pinoy MD,
and we got so drunk we forgot his backyard ends at a deep ravine.
Somehow the whole pig, including the iron pole stuck through it, grew
wings, acquired jet propulsion and nosedived into the woods about 700
feet below. All we heard (it was dark) were black bears fighting over
it. Sobering experience, I can assure you! We ended up defrosting and
grilling thick steaks for pulutan. The fun's not the same, somehow,
even with tons of imported (yuck) SanMigs.

borac...@gmail.com

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Jul 13, 2006, 6:06:02 PM7/13/06
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TAHONG_EATER

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Jul 13, 2006, 7:18:12 PM7/13/06
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hmmm, howcome, lots of my caucasian friends love sanmig ... and when i
was in Malaysia sanmigs are very expensive ... and you have to ask the
waiter if they still have stock. Well, I guess it depends on your
preference....

Dirty Sick Pig

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Jul 13, 2006, 8:47:10 PM7/13/06
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SanMigs imported into the U.S. *MUST* be watered down to comply with
regs. YUCK's the first thing FOBs say when swallowing SanMigImport for
the first time.

My father, if he wants a taste of the traditional Cerveza San Miguel,
drinks Red Horse (which he has a ton of in his garage). I, OTOH, have a
ton of Ginebra San Miguel in my garage.

TAHONG_EATER

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Jul 13, 2006, 10:41:17 PM7/13/06
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oh yeah, you are right about that. My caucasian friends was shocked
when they found out that alcohol content is higher in the Phil than
their country ... specially the "wapak" and red horse ... no wonder my
pinoy friend drunk 14 tins when in the US and still going ... tasete
like cali i guess ...

Dako ang voto

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Jul 13, 2006, 11:36:08 PM7/13/06
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there is san mig in nepal the everest pinoy boys found them in a
sari sari store near the mountain

Payasong Baliw

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Jul 14, 2006, 11:12:02 AM7/14/06
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The peeeg?! A CANNIBAL?!?!?!?

Goodness heavens. :-)

Payasong Baliw

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Jul 14, 2006, 11:17:07 AM7/14/06
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Dako ang voto wrote:
>
> Professor Ma. Patricia V. Avanza of the Food Science and Nutrition
> Department of the UP College of Home Economics spoke yesterday at a
> media conference on food safety in Makati City to warn that favorite
> Filipino dishes --- delicious lechon included --- are "dangerous"
> because they are "top carriers of bacteria and disease."
>
>

Back... waaaaay back when I was posting using my real name... (no I'm
not telling) I mentioned that there were so many germs and diseases
that Filipinos are immune to that by simply spreading those germs, we
could probably take over the world.

As for this UP prof, I guess he must have tried (and failed) to consume
the Isaw they sell in UP campus. I hear its very popular there.

Dirty Sick Pig

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Jul 14, 2006, 11:20:52 AM7/14/06
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Awshit, don't make me lose my appetite. :-D

Nasusuka Pig

Sylvia Knörr

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Jul 14, 2006, 10:11:49 PM7/14/06
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"Payasong Baliw" <rais...@edsamail.com.ph> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1152890227.9...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Dako ang voto wrote:

> > Professor Ma. Patricia V. Avanza of the Food Science and Nutrition
> > Department of the UP College of Home Economics spoke yesterday at a
> > media conference on food safety in Makati City to warn that favorite
> > Filipino dishes --- delicious lechon included --- are "dangerous"
> > because they are "top carriers of bacteria and disease."

Muslims will be glad to hear this news.
Could it be that Professor Avanza *is* one? :-)

> Back... waaaaay back when I was posting using my real name... (no I'm
> not telling) I mentioned that there were so many germs and diseases
> that Filipinos are immune to that by simply spreading those germs, we
> could probably take over the world.

Ha!! Don't underestimate German stomaches. :-)) Since we can not only digest
Sauerkraut, but are also dedicated porc-eaters and don't even hestiate to
have dinuguan sausages for breakfast, you will have a hard time to kill us
with your germs. (Was the term 'germ' derived from 'German', btw? :-))
Hey, our Lady Chancellor Angela Merkel just served wild hog lechon to the US
President G.W. Bush - maybe as an act of biologic assault? :-D
But Filipinos are very welcome to my country to spread their germs and
charms. ;-)

> As for this UP prof, I guess he must have tried (and failed) to consume
> the Isaw they sell in UP campus. I hear its very popular there.


It's interesting anyway that every now and then some professor bursts into
the scene with the news that what people used to eat for several generations
is actually unhealthy and very dangerous stuff.
I hope sufficient Filipinos will make it to insure their survival as an
endangered specie. :-)

Border Of Extinction Piggy


tumbaga

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Jul 14, 2006, 11:04:47 PM7/14/06
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Sylvia Knörr wrote:

A purely clean human being will die at first whiff of earthly air. If
not the pollution, the germs will kill it outright!
Get your immunity, get it now, eat pigs, you girlfriend, eat hearty!

Dako ang voto

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Jul 15, 2006, 1:19:09 AM7/15/06
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cheeze? egay ? kurakots?

Payasong Baliw

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Jul 15, 2006, 10:59:55 AM7/15/06
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Dako ang voto wrote:
> cheeze? egay ? kurakots?


Wouldn't u like to know?

And besides, Cheeze doesn't even qualify as waaaay baaack.

Payasong Baliw

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Jul 15, 2006, 11:03:51 AM7/15/06
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Sylvia Knörr wrote:
> "Payasong Baliw" <rais...@edsamail.com.ph> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:1152890227.9...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > Dako ang voto wrote:
>
>
> Ha!! Don't underestimate German stomaches. :-)) Since we can not only digest
> Sauerkraut, but are also dedicated porc-eaters and don't even hestiate to
> have dinuguan sausages for breakfast, you will have a hard time to kill us
> with your germs. (Was the term 'germ' derived from 'German', btw? :-))
> Hey, our Lady Chancellor Angela Merkel just served wild hog lechon to the US
> President G.W. Bush - maybe as an act of biologic assault? :-D
> But Filipinos are very welcome to my country to spread their germs and
> charms. ;-)
>

Next time you're here, test it on the papaitan. :-)

> > As for this UP prof, I guess he must have tried (and failed) to consume
> > the Isaw they sell in UP campus. I hear its very popular there.
>
>
> It's interesting anyway that every now and then some professor bursts into
> the scene with the news that what people used to eat for several generations
> is actually unhealthy and very dangerous stuff.
> I hope sufficient Filipinos will make it to insure their survival as an
> endangered specie. :-)
>
> Border Of Extinction Piggy

Pssst... everybody in UP are like that!

They're a bunch of weirdos all of 'em!

TAHONG_EATER

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Jul 15, 2006, 8:06:51 PM7/15/06
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Hey, lechon is lechon ... after that the left over can be "Lechon
Paksiw" added with lechon sauce (like Mang Tomas type) and vinegar. Who
said that it has germs? Isn't that double cooked??? from a double dead
lechon??? hehehehheheheh.

tumbaga

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Jul 15, 2006, 9:58:42 PM7/15/06
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TAHONG_EATER wrote:

> Hey, lechon is lechon ... after that the left over can be "Lechon
> Paksiw" added with lechon sauce (like Mang Tomas type) and vinegar. Who
> said that it has germs? Isn't that double cooked??? from a double dead
> lechon??? hehehehheheheh.
>

Germs will attack exposed flesh, as soon as it is exposed, you have it
there. All of us eat it together with the meat. Live with it!

Cooking do kill it, but as soon as it cools down, it will happen again.

aquila the sisiw

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Jul 15, 2006, 10:06:28 PM7/15/06
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lea salonga?

Payasong Baliw

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Jul 16, 2006, 4:40:19 AM7/16/06
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aquila the sisiw wrote:
> lea salonga?


Aye... I think I know your problem now.

Mass starvation. :-q

lola butchay

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Jul 16, 2006, 9:25:00 AM7/16/06
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too much beer dood . thats it

Sylvia Knörr

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Jul 18, 2006, 8:32:10 PM7/18/06
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"tumbaga" <ta...@hindiginto.ito> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:12bgmsn...@corp.supernews.com...

> Sylvia Knörr wrote:
> > "Payasong Baliw" <rais...@edsamail.com.ph> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > news:1152890227.9...@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >>Dako ang voto wrote:

> >>>Professor Ma. Patricia V. Avanza of the Food Science and Nutrition
> >>>Department of the UP College of Home Economics spoke yesterday at a
> >>>media conference on food safety in Makati City to warn that favorite
> >>>Filipino dishes --- delicious lechon included --- are "dangerous"
> >>>because they are "top carriers of bacteria and disease."

> > It's interesting anyway that every now and then some professor bursts


into
> > the scene with the news that what people used to eat for several
generations
> > is actually unhealthy and very dangerous stuff.
> > I hope sufficient Filipinos will make it to insure their survival as an
> > endangered specie. :-)

> A purely clean human being will die at first whiff of earthly air. If


> not the pollution, the germs will kill it outright!
> Get your immunity, get it now, eat pigs, you girlfriend, eat hearty!


Yes, the world is full of germs and we better get used to them. If we always
think of all the dangers of live, we live it like a spoiled party. Better
have fun and have faith in our immune system.

Health care Piggy

Kampilan

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Jul 18, 2006, 9:15:07 PM7/18/06
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wont work if you die from butolism

tumbaga

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Jul 27, 2006, 11:58:30 AM7/27/06
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Sylvia Knörr wrote:

We as people has the tendency to blow things out of proportion, we don't
want to live in a spackling clean laboratory, if we do we will not be
able to live on this earth.

tumbaga

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Jul 27, 2006, 11:59:51 AM7/27/06
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Kampilan wrote:

> wont work if you die from butolism

Botulism exists in all rotting meat, this is part of the process in
returning it to the environment. Not just pork.

Dirty Sick Pig

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Jul 27, 2006, 6:34:36 PM7/27/06
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tumbaga wrote:
> Kampilan wrote:
>
>> wont work if you die from butolism
>
> Botulism exists in all rotting meat, this is part of the process in
> returning it to the environment. Not just pork.

Most meat sold in stores are aged in a controlled environment. Lots of
movies and TV shows show the characters doing goofy things in reefers
with hanging sides of beef. Those are being aged prior to further
butchering. Meat and most game birds aren't table ready when freshly
killed. They gotta be sent partway down the road of decomposition.

Dirty Sick Pig

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Jul 27, 2006, 6:39:26 PM7/27/06
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True. Many people never realize that introduction of some pathogens
into the body builds up immunity, e.g., vaccination. Nature takes care
of this in other ways too, such as humans developing immunity from the
germs, bacteria and virus carried by common household pets and livestock.

tumbaga

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Jul 27, 2006, 7:50:57 PM7/27/06
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Dirty Sick Pig wrote:

When I worked as assitant, I carry sides of pork or beef and lay it on
my body while holding the end with my hands, sweat rubs against the fat
and meat.
If you overcook, it doesn't taste good, buthcer's sweat goes with every
cut of meat you get. Live with it.

tumbaga

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Jul 27, 2006, 7:53:36 PM7/27/06
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Dirty Sick Pig wrote:

I used to have a sister-in-law that tried to make her home so clean, her
kids have to wear shoes just for the home. Her kids were sickly as kids,
but they became lazy kids so their homes, now with their own kids are a
bit dirty but strong kids.. my grand nephews.

Sylvia Knörr

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Jul 30, 2006, 8:12:14 PM7/30/06
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"tumbaga" <ta...@hindiginto.ito> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:12chol8...@corp.supernews.com...

> Sylvia Knörr wrote:
> > "tumbaga" <ta...@hindiginto.ito> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > news:12bgmsn...@corp.supernews.com...

> >>A purely clean human being will die at first whiff of earthly air. If


> >>not the pollution, the germs will kill it outright!
> >>Get your immunity, get it now, eat pigs, you girlfriend, eat hearty!

> > Yes, the world is full of germs and we better get used to them. If we
always
> > think of all the dangers of live, we live it like a spoiled party.
Better
> > have fun and have faith in our immune system.

> We as people has the tendency to blow things out of proportion, we don't


> want to live in a spackling clean laboratory, if we do we will not be
> able to live on this earth.


Our immune system needs a lot of training to function well. For Germany,
there's a study which reveals that children who grew up on a farm have less
allergy diseases than children from an urban surrounding.
Let's all wallow in pig manure! :-))

Dirty Healthy Piggy


tumbaga

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Jul 30, 2006, 10:02:32 PM7/30/06
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Sylvia Knörr wrote:

In the US, the tendency is to overdo, kindly silly because that is not a
proper solution.

rv

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Jul 31, 2006, 8:35:43 AM7/31/06
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Was wondering if the UP professor was talking about food preparation in
the urban areas vs. rural areas? Manila, with the millions of
residents, is bound to have bouts of food poisoning. It's about
kitchen and cooking management. I used to eat all that. Maybe, that's
why I'm....

Sylvia Knörr

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"tumbaga" <ta...@hindiginto.ito> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:12cqp7t...@corp.supernews.com...

> In the US, the tendency is to overdo, kindly silly because that is not a
> proper solution.


People believe what the tv promotion stunts tell them about hygiene
standards. :-)

Clinically Clean Piggy


Sylvia Knörr

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"rv" <livingpl...@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1154349343.2...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

>Was wondering if the UP professor was talking about food preparation in
>the urban areas vs. rural areas? Manila, with the millions of
>residents, is bound to have bouts of food poisoning. It's about
>kitchen and cooking management. I used to eat all that. Maybe, that's
>why I'm....


You are still alive, hence it couldn't have been so bad...:-)

Survival Piggy

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