Here is my take on that and why this particular phenomenon takes place:
Assuming that this thing about foreigners applies to Americans mainly,
this is how this happens:
1) Filipinos have been taught for the longest time that a beautiful
person is someone who looks "Spanish". In the Philippine culture,
which was dominated by the Spaniards for centuries, the Spanish look
came to represent power, authority, nobility, riches and beauty. Poor
Native Filipinos would look at rich ruling class Spaniards and would
often want to attain the same status as them. Also, the "Indios",
as the Malay Filipinos were then called by the Castilians, were
repeatedly told by their colonial masters that they were "ugly"-
their noses were flat-how ugly!, their eyes were slanty-how ugly!,
their skin was brown- how very ugly! Therefore, many a Pinay in those
times would dream of marrying a tall, white Spaniard and creating a
family that would become "white", and "high-nosed" after three
generations. The Mestizo class in the Hispanic times was richer and had
a higher position than the predominantly Asian-looking, native
"Indio" class; and being half-Spanish became a thing of status.
One will also agree that when we search for love, we subconsciously
look for "beautiful" lovers in order to "improve our species". So,
for many Filipinas/-nos, finding a long-nosed husband/wife, with a
bigger body and whiter skin, became an important requirement when
looking for a worthy marriage/ life-time partner.
Spanish Mestizos still have a high status in the modern Philippines.
Many own huge agricultural estates, factories and corporations. The
Mestizo look means: money, power, rich (wo)man, handsome (wo)man,
famous actor/actress, a noble person coming from a land-owning family.
When the US Army was in the Philippines, many Mexican-Americans
reported an interesting occurrence- Filipinos would turn their heads
when they walked down the street, say "Gwapo" and "Pogi" to
them, and tell them that they looked like some famous actors/actresses.
Many Filipinos would say that a person who looks like that ( the
Mexican look) was " a wealthy man" in the Philippines. And it is
true. Watch a few Filipino movies- the people who are portrayed to live
in big houses and have estates with Malay/Asian maids do have that
near-Mexican look.
It must have been a pleasant shock to many Chicano guys, whose parents
were often very poor Mexican immigrants who toiled for years to have a
better life in the US, and to whom being in the US Military was a way
to make something of themselves in the American society. In the
Philippines they suddenly found themselves to be "high class" in
the eyes of the natives. These, still relatively poor children of,
sometimes, illegal Mexican immigrants, were now confused with the
"hacenderos" - the land -owning class of the half-Spanish
Philippine aristocracy. Filipina girls would flirt with them and people
would admire them as "burgeses"- the moneyed bourgeois class.
Because, you see, in the Philippines, the Asian look is often seen as
being less glamorous than the Hispanic look.
2) Now, North Americans would form different associations when it came
to what a beautiful person/woman should look like. For centuries,
American men were attracted to the exotic "Oriental" women. During the
20th century in particular, with the US military involvement in Asia,
tens of thousands of American men brought home Korean, Japanese, Thai,
and Vietnamese war brides. These women were seen as beautiful,
faithful, feminine and exotic. Movies about the Marines in the South
Seas falling in love with brown- skinned native women, as well as
Elvis's escapades with lovely Hawaiian ladies in "Blue Hawaii"
left deep imprints on the American men's minds as to what precious
treats these Asian women were.
There are not so many Asians in the US ,so finding and marrying a
beautiful Asian woman is a difficult task- many American men would vie
for her and she would have the pick of the crop. Young Asian girls in
the US often have lots and lots of guys fawning on them all the time.
Finding a Mexican girl is much easier as there are so many of them.
Hence, such scarcity of Asian women affords them a certain higher value
in the American men's mind. Often even when in the Philippines, the
American man still carries with him the concept of that Asian woman
"scarcity" and continues valuing every Asian woman he meets.
Also, it is said to say but the Spanish Mestizo look in the US is not
connected with being "high class" and a way to "improve one's
species" and standing in society. Oftentimes, it is associated (
subconsciously so) with Mexican and Central American laborers and
maids. While a modern American male claims to not be racist, he will
very often, and without realizing it, place the Asian look of a female
on a higher pedestal than the Hispanic look. Hence, when in the
Philippines, an American man has the concept of female beauty which is
opposite of the Philippine concept of the same.
So, when an American male is in the Philippines, he starts courting,
dating and getting involved with the women that he came to the
Philippines for- the Oriental-looking ones- yup!, the ones with small
noses, yellowish/brown skin, the petite bodies and sweet and modest
behavior. Why travel all the way to the "Exotic Orient" to look for
a girl that looks just like so many Mexican and other Latin women in
the US? If he wanted to find a Hispanic girl, a trip to Tijuana would
be sufficient. And, the conclusion is: to Americans, the Asian look is
seen as something more glamorous, exciting, attractive and more
precious than the Hispanic look.
And thus, we see all these tall American guys proudly parading around
Manila and Cebu with Malay ( "Indio"-"Pure Filipina") girls,
who, in the minds of Americans, evoke old images of Hawaiian and
Tahitian beauties, someone as warm and as vehemently passionate as the
wild and sultry maidens from Paul Gaugin's paintings.
The Filipinos, who curiously observe the mixed couples, see it
differently- "Here is a rich foreigner, he is white and handsome; he
is an American. A millionaire! So why did he get involved with a
flat-nosed, "ugly" girl?" Why is he in a poor neighborhood,
wooing the girl that sells barbecued chicken? Why is he head-over-heels
in love with a young woman that looks like she had spent her entire
life on a rice paddy?
Isn't it interesting how people, depending on their own cultural
baggage of references and associations, can look at the same situation
and see two completely different things!
You can be the most beautiful person in the Philippines pero kung masama
naman ang ugali mo..... what good is your beauty?
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>Maybe the foreigners are looking at the person, not the body. Possibly they
>are more interested in the person, and the grace and hospitable attitude
>taught to Filipinas, rather than trophies like self-centered Pinoys.
>Possibly the women are looking for partners and opportunity, rather than a
>barrio braggart and drunk. Maybe, just maybe?
Right on Rose! Beauty is only skin deep often beautiful girls realize
the power their beauty gives where as a not so preaty lady is perhaps
more likely to be happy with what she has got in the way of husband,
family etc.
As you say charming traits other than beauty are what foreigners may
be looking for. The men of some countries prize really fat ladiies
where as to many white people they are repulsive, beauty is indeed in
the eye of the beholder.
Just my two peso worth
Jamie
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Maybe the foreigners are looking at the person, not the body. Possibly
they
are more interested in the person, and the grace and hospitable
attitude
taught to Filipinas, rather than trophies like self-centered Pinoys.
Possibly the women are looking for partners and opportunity, r
in other words ...... she is .....
Having read all the foregoing yada-yada, I agree that many Filipinas in
the States who married American husbands are dogfaced. Many Filipinas
married to servicemen or former servicemen were formerly employed in red
light districts.
The pretty Pinays I have come to know (don't read anything into this)
are married to Pinoys, with very few exceptions.
Of course I'm just talking of physical appearance. What's inside these
ladies are another set of volumes.
Julio Pig Iglesias
"To all the girls I loved before....."
My wife married me for my looks and to make sure her gestating piglet
has a good daddy. She hit the jackpot on both counts.
Pretty & Humble & Hardworking Pig
LET'S POST PICTURES OF OUR WIVES!!!!!
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The pretty Filipinas who are married to Pinoys ( and living in the US)
may not even appeal to Americanos as they probably look too Mexican- a
look that is not seen as exotic in the US.
That's all.
And you guys just love bashing the Kanos and their wives and all that.
That is after you come and live in the Kano's country.
This post is correct.
Anyway I think in the eyes of Asians in general, most of the mix hybrid
children of native looking Asians and Caucasians are far more beautiful
than a pure Caucasian person even than Hollywood white celebrities.
Especially without makeup, most white women after their 20s are as ugly
as the aborigines (like in Fox TV's celebrities without makeup) but
most Asian/Caucasian hybrids are still beautiful even in their old age.
Most South East Asian / Caucasian hybrids and also most North East
Asian / Caucasian hybrids are far more cute and beautiful than a pure
Caucasian celebrity to the eyes of Asians. So I guess we should
encourage more of this crossbreeding to produce more of this superior
beautiful people hybrid race than pure Caucasians to the eyes of
Asians. LOL Oh yeah! :-D
When I see the Philippino movie stars I do say the words 'pretty' or
'very nice' but usually with a yawn.
When I see the darker skinned, usually shorter, and from what I've
read, potrayed as the peasant girl/working in the field person, I go
WOW. I prefer the darker skin, the typical philippino movie star looks
to european and does nothing for me.
Just my opinion, and btw I'm white so guess that would make me the
typical 'kano' with the ugly girl. Not ugly to me, and thats all that
matters.
1. I didn't come and live in the Kano's country.
2. Post a picture of your wife.
I'm Pinoy but I agree with you, I go WOW if I see those girls. But of
course there are some ugly Pinays out there.
perhaps a grain of truth; even more so your statements about
differences of opinion about what comprises a beautiful girl.
what is factually true, is that the mexicans aren't being currently
recruited into the USA because they excel as nurses or math teachers.
Pinoys are.
It's also worth mentioning that "upper class" pinoys are about the
laziest and snottiest dogs this side of Singapore. Foreigners don't
want a wife who is too mayabang to wash her own husband's clothes.
Upper-class pinoy have been fighting a desperate fight to enforce
monopolies on rights to do business within the RP.... at the same time
that they bitch and moan about not being allowed to work in other
countries. Because if the nationalist restrictions lie, then
foreigners need to bring in passive local partners, who earn for doing
nothing but being a pinoy signatory.
A particular example is the current chancellor of UP Mindanao. He told
me to my face that he is opposed to letting foreigners own mines in RP.
But he thinks that RP nurses should be allowed to enter Japan freely
with no numerical restriction!!
It happened at SM Davao City.
Yet again the label "pretty" is from your personal perspective. Since
the days when I first became interested in humans of the female
variety I can recall very few really ugly ladies from Pinas. And have
seen some stunning ones married (I presume) to Aussies which I must
stress includes men from most countries of the world.
Pretty ones married mainly to Pinoys seems not an issue here. Given
some thought actually the opposite seems the case.
Of course such observations are based on my perception of who is
pretty and who is not! Plus the fact that I have lived away from Pinas
most of my life so may have a more European slant on things. Although
comments from others naturally have some bearing on opinion forming.
Is my non asian wife pretty to others or not? Who cares.
Jamie
duddette you like to insult people yourself . does that mean
that you are a waste of human life? and i mean that with due respect
This brings to mind the following:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_symmetry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_R._Marquardt
and
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/index2_mba.htm
http://www.beautyanalysis.com/mba_youandthemask_page.htm
when they say they can cook really well you say they are gorgeous
. it doesnt matter if they are duling, have 2 heads, or have hairy
feet like a hobbit. its the food that count. thats why you have that
thing hanging in your belly.
> >The pretty Pinays I have come to know (don't read anything into this)
> >are married to Pinoys, with very few exceptions.
> >
> >Of course I'm just talking of physical appearance. What's inside these
> >ladies are another set of volumes.
> Yet again the label "pretty" is from your personal perspective. Since
> the days when I first became interested in humans of the female
> variety I can recall very few really ugly ladies from Pinas. And have
> seen some stunning ones married (I presume) to Aussies which I must
> stress includes men from most countries of the world.
>
> Pretty ones married mainly to Pinoys seems not an issue here. Given
> some thought actually the opposite seems the case.
I come to the same conclusion. I have seen quite a lot of Pinays married to
German husbands, and I have seen Pinays in the Philippines. Both groups
almost entirely gorgeous women.
The original poster may have a point that white guys would prefer the darker
variety with more Asian features over the European type. But isn't it
natural that opposites attract? :-)
> Of course such observations are based on my perception of who is
> pretty and who is not! Plus the fact that I have lived away from Pinas
> most of my life so may have a more European slant on things. Although
> comments from others naturally have some bearing on opinion forming.
Where did you live, and where are you living now? Back to Inang Bayan?
> Is my non asian wife pretty to others or not? Who cares.
Hmm...
Unlike women, men use to take some PRIDE in the beauty of their partners. To
have a wife who is considered beautiful BY OTHERS has some kind of prestige
value for a man.
Though beauty is in the eye of the beholder, there is still some common
denominator about what is considered beautiful, even across cultural and
racial borders. Just look at the sites which Boracay Bill listed.
Symmetry Piggy
For your information, I insult only those with limited intellect who try to
post as if they can actually make a point - those such as yourself. You
cannot make an intelligent point, cannot link, and cannot fathom a life with
more than one facet. You prove it in post after post.
You certainly appear to be fixated on looks alone when you view women. My
most heartfelt condolences to all of the women in your life. I am sure that
the person who first coined the word "shallowness" mean depth of water.
Today it fits those with similar views to yourself.
The all-too-easily bruised Filipino ego and the desire to be something far
beyond what they (you) actually are is precisely why, over 20 years ago, I
looked to foreign lands for my future. It turned out to be the right
decision, as it is for many Filipinas. It was the right decision so I could
support Mama with American dollars; it was the right decision so that I
could have an equal standing with a loving husband; and it was the right
decision to get out of what had become the shell of a country that I have
loved since birth.
It is self-important and self-aggrandizing egotists like yourself that has
destroyed the Philippines. Sorry, it isn't GMA that has done it. It is
people like yourself that believe an uneducated B-grade movie prince could
actually lead a country.
My father labored at Dole so that I could have a good elementary, high
school, and college education. I grew up poor, but my father and mother
taught me that while the world may appear to be complex, it is still very
simple in nature.
I travel back to the Philippines on an irregular basis. It never ceases to
amaze me that taxi drivers, who defer to both of us when my hubby is with me
in the back seat, will try to become my "boss" and argue about the fare when
I drop him off someplace and I am then alone. It is the outrageous attitude
of all Filipinos that women, all women, should kowtow to them, even if they
are the lowest barrio scum - simply because of their gender. My
brothers-in-law have felt the wrath of my hubby more than once when they
tried to "boss" me when I visit back home. I thank him and love him for
that.
. . . and no, generally I do not suffer fools well. Posting without a point,
or posting baseless tripe is a right everyone has here, but I also have the
right to dispute their posts. I also do not suffer "Martha Stewart
wannabees" very well either. Foo-foo attitudes by women went out of favor
decades ago.
So, back to your nonsense: "plain looking gals tend to say that beauty does
not matter - it's a crutch". Wow. Does that tell the entire world about
yourself. I'm glad I don't know you personally. I am sure there are
thousands, if not millions, of women who feel the same.
"ebak" <soccultur...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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There's something hanging in my belly?
I didn't know that, what is it?
Can you see it? Describe it for me..
Well, some people despise seeing a couple made of an old white man and
a little native looking Filipina wife. But if that odd couple were
carrying their asian-caucasian hybrid child, then that's all ignored
because people will start focusing their attention to admiring how cute
beautiful and doll like their hybrid child is. Like how cherubim
looking their child is, how long and curly the eyelashes like a doll,
and how round and rosy the cheeks like a doll, etc. And most of these
asian-caucasian hybrids grow up to be the hottest looking people in the
world more cute and beautiful than pure caucasians an envy to some.
Treated like VIPs. In which even pure caucasians or even Tom Cruise
would admire and wished he'd able to marry one. Perhaps until today
Tom Cruise still thinking and searching for that beautiful one like
with Christian Slater's character in one movie said, he was not able
to know the name of the rose. ;-D
Oops! Reminds me. Not talking about the professional pundit rose on
this forum, okay! I think that one got balls. LOL
Oops! Reminds me. Not talking about the professional pundit rose on
not correct . you are a consistent equal opportunity insulter of
those whose political or economic view does not match yours.
you mostly You
> cannot make an intelligent point, cannot link, and cannot fathom a life with
> more than one facet. You prove it in post after post.
not correct manang biday you insult many. thats the way you are . its
like the way a skunk likes to spray urine . insults must be your
defense mechanism .
>
> You certainly appear to be fixated on looks alone when you view women.
not true. wifey is not exactly gorgeous. she is not plain either
. just normal .
My
> most heartfelt condolences to all of the women in your life. I am sure that
> the person who first coined the word "shallowness" mean depth of water.
> Today it fits those with similar views to yourself.
really ? interesting where you get all this .
>
> The all-too-easily bruised Filipino ego and the desire to be something far
> beyond what they (you) actually are is precisely why, over 20 years ago, I
> looked to foreign lands for my future. It turned out to be the right
> decision, as it is for many Filipinas.
good for you. if it makes you happy more power to you. ingat ka lang
sa pagiinsulto mo. there is still bastos standards for filipinos
in the pinas or in the us .
It was the right decision so I could
> support Mama with American dollars; it was the right decision so that I
> could have an equal standing with a loving husband; and it was the right
> decision to get out of what had become the shell of a country that I have
> loved since birth.
psst you can have equal standing with your husband anywhere if you
want it hard enough . wifey was a battle axe when she was still in the
pinas.she still is in the us .
>
> It is self-important and self-aggrandizing egotists like yourself that has
> destroyed the Philippines.
i destroyed the pinas? it is busy destroying itself when it does
not use proffesionalism within its structure. when you use shortcuts,
lagay, and pakiusap to let the mediocre substandard pass muster
then you deserve what you get.
Sorry, it isn't GMA that has done it. It is
> people like yourself that believe an uneducated B-grade movie prince could
> actually lead a country.
psst i didnt like erap . i was once for mitra. during gmas time i
was for that one who got cancer. psst agAIN the us voted for a b
actor prince called ronald reagan. you seem to like him . you might
even vote for another d actor when they change the law in the person
of arnold s .
>
> My father labored at Dole so that I could have a good elementary, high
> school, and college education. I grew up poor, but my father and mother
> taught me that while the world may appear to be complex, it is still very
> simple in nature.
good for him. your father probably worked for my uncle. he was a
boss there in dole davao now retired.
>
> I travel back to the Philippines on an irregular basis. It never ceases to
> amaze me that taxi drivers, who defer to both of us when my hubby is with me
> in the back seat, will try to become my "boss" and argue about the fare when
> I drop him off someplace and I am then alone. It is the outrageous attitude
> of all Filipinos that women, all women, should kowtow to them, even if they
> are the lowest barrio scum - simply because of their gender.
my wife would not let that pass. she even had a konduktor fired
because he was lewd once . if you dont want it then you raise hell.
My
> brothers-in-law have felt the wrath of my hubby more than once when they
> tried to "boss" me when I visit back home.
my wife bosses her siblings even when they are older or maton in
their own neigborhood. she even try to boss me . but i have learned the
art of appearing to follow her while still doing my own thing on
the side .
I thank him and love him for
> that.
well good for you.
>
> . . . and no, generally I do not suffer fools well. Posting without a point,
> or posting baseless tripe is a right everyone has here, but I also have the
> right to dispute their posts.
its not nice to use bad behavior when they dont agree with you
either. in philippine culture its called bastos.
I also do not suffer "Martha Stewart
> wannabees" very well either. Foo-foo attitudes by women went out of favor
> decades ago.
>
> So, back to your nonsense: "plain looking gals tend to say that beauty does
> not matter - it's a crutch". Wow. Does that tell the entire world about
> yourself. I'm glad I don't know you personally.
thats right you dont .
I am sure there are
> thousands, if not millions, of women who feel the same.
there are thousands of plain if not millions of them who use it as
a crutch
> it shakes like jelly and is soft like the pillsburry doughboy
>
Jeez, sounds like my belly and not something sticking out of it... now
you see the difference between us?
I don't do my wife's homework, I want her to learn the concept, so I
just point her to the right direction, she has to take that step.
Hey!!!
I am the result of many racial mix.. and the pinches of old maids on my
cheeks really hurt!! Stop calling me a hybrid.
Former superboy Caine would knock you out, since he is one too... :-)
> .
> Rose Melinis wrote:
>
>>The chameleon appears again.
>>
>>For your information, I insult only those with limited intellect who try to
>>post as if they can actually make a point - those such as yourself.
>
>
>
> not correct . you are a consistent equal opportunity insulter of
> those whose political or economic view does not match yours.
>
She cannot insult me, she has been sending stupid posts with NOTHING to
back it up with, then with a short insult as if she did. Only proved
stupidity.
> you mostly You
>
>>cannot make an intelligent point, cannot link, and cannot fathom a life with
>>more than one facet. You prove it in post after post.
>
>
> not correct manang biday you insult many. thats the way you are . its
> like the way a skunk likes to spray urine . insults must be your
> defense mechanism .
>
Insults without substance? You think that is an insult? DSP showed how
its done, Congenital showed how to do it with long winded non-sequiteur
cut-and-paste (renowlesque) insult, and the rest, Rose, you get insulted
without any ??? makes you wonder... what?? that is an insult??
>
>>You certainly appear to be fixated on looks alone when you view women.
>
>
> not true. wifey is not exactly gorgeous. she is not plain either
> . just normal .
>
>
> My
>
>>most heartfelt condolences to all of the women in your life. I am sure that
>>the person who first coined the word "shallowness" mean depth of water.
>>Today it fits those with similar views to yourself.
>
>
>
> really ? interesting where you get all this .
>
It is shallow when she can't understand, meaning, she has nothing in her
head!! Too empty to get it!
That only means she is one of those "Plain" ugly women from the bars
American sailors love to marry. Wouldn't it be interesting if you can
see her picture?
world>>
To the Filipinos they look good. Because Filipinos are more accepting
of mixing. And to the Kanos who come to RP and who are interested in
the RP-Kano interaction.
Other Asians do not like mixed kids except as "freaks" that become
models or entertainers as they will not be accepted in any other role.
In some very white racist places such a half child like that will still
be an "Oriennul".
>most Asian/Caucasian hybrids are still beautiful even in their old age.
Now you know the secret of my success.
>So I guess we should encourage more of this crossbreeding to
>produce more of this superior beautiful people hybrid race than
>pure Caucasians .......
I does my best, Miz Scarlett. Tough, dirty work but .......
LoloBat
...... has to do it
Yup! I'm sure even white supremacists will hate to admit it. But
most asian-caucasian hybrids are indeed far cuter and beautiful more
even skin than pure Caucasians. Pure Caucasians mature or wrinkle
faster have bonier faces.
> >So I guess we should encourage more of this crossbreeding to
> >produce more of this superior beautiful people hybrid race than
> >pure Caucasians .......
>
> I does my best, Miz Scarlett. Tough, dirty work but .......
>
> LoloBat
> ...... has to do it
Highly recommendable. Hehe! It's good to see more of them, at least
for the Filipinos. Maybe some Asians do hate their kind but I guess
the Japanese, Filipinos, South Koreans, Singaporeans, Hong Kong people
and the Asian Indians are among the few societies collectively friendly
to westerners.
What the fuck is "Oriennui".. make me understnad what you mean.
Hey!! That is me... your telling me I'm cuter than any of you white, or
pure brown guys here? That sounds idiotic to me. I started losing my
lips just like average white people at 40 something... I think that is
sickening.
Yes, I don't have as much wrinkle as the average white guy, and I look
more Pinoy as I got older, so fucking what?
I likes it. Well, except for my frigging lips what happened to it?!!! I
used to be proud of my fat pouty lips!???
being part caucasian is tough, man... it is weird.
Oh yes you are, baby! LOL
Anime is very popular throughout asia. Some realistic looking leading
anime characters like in Slamdunk (not the big eyed ones) look like you
mestizos. North East Asian telenobela celebrties are popular in the
Philippines and the whole of asia.
I explain in Tagalog, so it is a big deal.
>>
>>Hey!! That is me... your telling me I'm cuter than any of you white, or
>>pure brown guys here? That sounds idiotic to me. I started losing my
>>lips just like average white people at 40 something... I think that is
>>sickening.
>>Yes, I don't have as much wrinkle as the average white guy, and I look
>>more Pinoy as I got older, so fucking what?
>>I likes it. Well, except for my frigging lips what happened to it?!!! I
>>used to be proud of my fat pouty lips!???
>>
>>being part caucasian is tough, man... it is weird.
>
>
> Oh yes you are, baby! LOL
>
> Anime is very popular throughout asia. Some realistic looking leading
> anime characters like in Slamdunk (not the big eyed ones) look like you
> mestizos. North East Asian telenobela celebrties are popular in the
> Philippines and the whole of asia.
>
Well, being part Asian mean high cheekbones, so no big eyes. This trait
is also stronger than caucasoid eye sockets.
My father who was part Amerind also has high cheekbones.
> well that aussie claims to have seen her
>
OK..
> if prettiness doesnt count you will have to live with the fact
>that you would have sex with an ugly woman night after night . if
>you can live with that then more power to you
Problem easily fixed.....Turn off the lights!
Three other points:-
What is pretty to you may not be pretty to others and the converse
Some guys could not care less about the face so long as the mating
equipment is readily available.
Some men prefer a beautiful woman but choose a not so pretty one so
that she does not attract the unwelcome attention of other guys.
Jamie.
No am currently in Oz. Was back "Home" last year.
>
>> Is my non asian wife pretty to others or not? Who cares.
>
>
>Hmm...
>Unlike women, men use to take some PRIDE in the beauty of their partners.
Sure, however as mentioned a number of times on this thread some of us
rate other things more important and appealing.
>To have a wife who is considered beautiful BY OTHERS has some kind of prestige
>value for a man.
Keeping the "Others" at bay may at times be a concern! There are still
lots of guys around that don't really care what others may think,
provided home is a great place to be.
>Though beauty is in the eye of the beholder, there is still some common
>denominator about what is considered beautiful, even across cultural and
>racial borders. Just look at the sites which Boracay Bill listed.
Agreed, My first post was at issue with the statement that Foreigners
marry ugly Filipinas, seems I have as usual strayed somewhat from the
issue.
Cheers,
Jamie.
"abakada" <soccultur...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> and what is that ?
>
Can you cook?
DSP
Shit, you beat me this time. I was still laughing so hard I couldn't
type a smartypants response.
Belly Pendant Pig
RH, offsprings of two homo sapiens regardless of race are not called
hybrids. Even "half-breed" is a misnomer. Renowl is a hybrid, being
the product of the rape of a hyena by an ass. Pong is a half-breed, his
momma and poppa being lesbian and gay, respectively.
> Like how cherubim
> looking their child is, how long and curly the eyelashes like a doll,
> and how round and rosy the cheeks like a doll, etc. And most of these
> asian-caucasian hybrids grow up to be the hottest looking people in the
Hubby's taking me to Cabella's tomorrow. That's nearly as good as going to
Field's.
"Compliment me on my shoes - they match my holster" Pigette
"Dirty-Sick-Pig" <drtys...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8yR9f.939$W%2.736@trnddc06...
>
> Can you cook?
>
> DSP
What a kinky way to jack off.
With Renowl's crutch?
Shut your face, you shaekesperitic, plonkv, thu ,m .(insult)
>>> You certainly appear to be fixated on looks alone when you view
>>> women.
When I view women with my x-ray vision, looks and only looks count.
>> not true. wifey is not exactly gorgeous. she is not plain
>> either . just normal .
With your mental crutch?
>>> My most heartfelt condolences to all of the women in your life. I
>>> am sure that the person who first coined the word "shallowness"
>>> mean depth of water. Today it fits those with similar views to
>>> yourself.
>>
>> really ? interesting where you get all this .
>>
> It is shallow when she can't understand, meaning, she has nothing in
> her head!! Too empty to get it!
>
>>> The all-too-easily bruised Filipino ego and the desire to be
>>> something far beyond what they (you) actually are is precisely
>>> why, over 20 years ago, I looked to foreign lands for my future.
>>> It turned out to be the right decision, as it is for many
>>> Filipinas.
>>
>> good for you. if it makes you happy more power to you. ingat ka
>> lang sa pagiinsulto mo. there is still bastos standards for
>> filipinos in the pinas or in the us .
>>
>>> It was the right decision so I could
>>> support Mama with American dollars; it was the right decision so
>>> that I could have an equal standing with a loving husband; and it
>>> was the right decision to get out of what had become the shell
>>> of a country that I have loved since birth.
>>
>> psst you can have equal standing with your husband anywhere if
>> you want it hard enough . wifey was a battle axe when she was
>> still in the pinas.she still is in the us .
>>
>>> It is self-important and self-aggrandizing egotists like yourself
>>> that has destroyed the Philippines.
>>
>> i destroyed the pinas? it is busy destroying itself when it
>> does not use proffesionalism within its structure. when you use
>> shortcuts, lagay, and pakiusap to let the mediocre substandard
>> pass muster then you deserve what you get.
>>
>>> Sorry, it isn't GMA that has done it. It is people like yourself
>>> that believe an uneducated B-grade movie prince could actually
>>> lead a country.
>>
>> psst i didnt like erap . i was once for mitra. during gmas time i
>> was for that one who got cancer. psst agAIN the us voted for a
>> b actor prince called ronald reagan. you seem to like him . you
>> might even vote for another d actor when they change the law in
>> the person of arnold s .
>>
>>> My father labored at Dole so that I could have a good elementary,
>>> high school, and college education. I grew up poor, but my father
>>> and mother taught me that while the world may appear to be
>>> complex, it is still very simple in nature.
>>
>> good for him. your father probably worked for my uncle. he was a
>> boss there in dole davao now retired.
>>
>>> I travel back to the Philippines on an irregular basis. It never
>>> ceases to amaze me that taxi drivers, who defer to both of us
>>> when my hubby is with me in the back seat, will try to become my
>>> "boss" and argue about the fare whenI drop him off someplace and
>>> I am then alone. It is the outrageous attitude of all Filipinos
>>> that women, all women, should kowtow to them, even if they are
>>> the lowest barrio scum - simply because of their gender.
>>
>> my wife would not let that pass. she even had a konduktor fired
>> because he was lewd once . if you dont want it then you raise
>> hell.
Good. Now she must have herself expelled for having you do her
homework, ha? Ha?
>>> My brothers-in-law have felt the wrath of my hubby more than once
>>> when they tried to "boss" me when I visit back home.
>>
>> my wife bosses her siblings even when they are older or maton in
>> their own neigborhood. she even try to boss me . but i have learned
>> the art of appearing to follow her while still doing my own
>> thing on the side .
>>
>> I thank him and love him for that.
>>
>> well good for you.
>>
>>> . . . and no, generally I do not suffer fools well. Posting
>>> without a point, or posting baseless tripe is a right everyone
>>> has here, but I also have the right to dispute their posts.
>>
>> its not nice to use bad behavior when they dont agree with you
>> either. in philippine culture its called bastos.
>>
>> I also do not suffer "Martha Stewart wannabees" very well either.
>> Foo-foo attitudes by women went out of
>>> favor decades ago.
>>>
>>> So, back to your nonsense: "plain looking gals tend to say that
>>> beauty does not matter - it's a crutch". Wow. Does that tell the
>>> entire world about yourself. I'm glad I don't know you
>>> personally.
>>
>> thats right you dont .
>>
>>> I am sure there are thousands, if not millions, of women who feel
>>> the same.
>>
>> there are thousands of plain if not millions of them who use it
>> as a crutch That only means she is one of those "Plain" ugly women
>> from the bars American sailors love to marry. Wouldn't it be
>> interesting if you can see her picture?
> Hey!! That is me... your telling me I'm cuter than any of you white, or
> pure brown guys here? That sounds idiotic to me. I started losing my
> lips just like average white people at 40 something... I think that is
> sickening.
BOTOX!
> Yes, I don't have as much wrinkle as the average white guy, and I look
> more Pinoy as I got older, so fucking what?
I can't wait to have a few wrinkles and gray hair at the temples.
Wimmin love eet.
> I likes it. Well, except for my frigging lips what happened to it?!!! I
> used to be proud of my fat pouty lips!???
BOTOX!
> being part caucasian is tough, man... it is weird.
Fuckin' hybrid halfbreeds today.....
Unsure, huh? It shows. Bwahahahahahahahawr!
He is not a Pinoy. He is an American veteran now in the U.S. civil
service. How much more Kano can one get?
Army surplus (new, not used) for this pig, and then send the loot to
Tactical Tailor for custom mods. He will also do stuff from drawings,
however crude. He will exceed milspecs or your money back.
> "Compliment me on my shoes - they match my holster" Pigette
You have tiny pink flowers tooled into the pigskin?!?
FinickyPigWithThermos(tm)CanteenInLeatherPouch
Learning is a process, it cannot be handed down.
It might be my turn for the war zone, but Viginy is not the training
ground, su civvies don't get to be there, I heard Tejas or somewhere cold.
Botox??
No poison for me gurdimayt!
> > Well, some people despise seeing a couple made of an old white man and
> > a little native looking Filipina wife. But if that odd couple were
> > carrying their asian-caucasian hybrid child, then that's all ignored
> > because people will start focusing their attention to admiring how cute
> > beautiful and doll like their hybrid child is. Like how cherubim
> > looking their child is, how long and curly the eyelashes like a doll,
> > and how round and rosy the cheeks like a doll, etc. And most of these
> > asian-caucasian hybrids grow up to be the hottest looking people in the
> > world more cute and beautiful than pure caucasians an envy to some.
> > Treated like VIPs. In which even pure caucasians or even Tom Cruise
> > would admire and wished he'd able to marry one. Perhaps until today
> > Tom Cruise still thinking and searching for that beautiful one like
> > with Christian Slater's character in one movie said, he was not able
> > to know the name of the rose. ;-D
> Hey!!!
> I am the result of many racial mix.. and the pinches of old maids on my
> cheeks really hurt!! Stop calling me a hybrid.
A hybrid is the offspring of two different species. Kung anak ng tao at isda
you can't deny to be the perfect hybrid! ;-)
> Former superboy Caine would knock you out, since he is one too... :-)
Really? What's his background?
Local Blend Piggy
BTW, I had a friend who was insulted because an American hit on her.
:-)
I think though that it is a matter of taste. Not many people find
Wilma Doesnt (did I spell that correctly?) beautiful, but there seems
to be a positive consensus of Leila Barros. And I doubt that Giselle
Bundchen would have gathered more Filipino attention than the
Brazillian spiker.
The best way to flatter a beautiful woman is to call her smart.
The best way to flatter an intelligent woman is to call her beautiful.
Now the problem is how do you flatter someone beautiful and smart.
You know they have a weird defintion of "asian" out there. Who else
aren't asians: arabs, white people in Asia (i.e. those former
russians), indians. Asian seems to be limited to the yellow race.
I don't know, but he has Pinay mom. He looks a bit like my older brother
when he was young.
> > My point was again not in the fact that poreigners are taking the
> > ugliest girls but that the Filipinos in their concept of beauty do not
> > see those girls as pretty whereas to Kanos they appear quite sexy and
> > exotic. So what is a dogface to a Pinoy is an attractive and sultry
> > South Sea girl to a Kano, through the Kano eyes- as he would associate
> > her physical type with something very tropical and appealing.
> >
> > The pretty Filipinas who are married to Pinoys ( and living in the US)
> > may not even appeal to Americanos as they probably look too Mexican- a
> > look that is not seen as exotic in the US.
> >
> > That's all.
> This post is correct.
>
> Anyway I think in the eyes of Asians in general, most of the mix hybrid
> children of native looking Asians and Caucasians are far more beautiful
> than a pure Caucasian person even than Hollywood white celebrities.
Definitely!
> Especially without makeup, most white women after their 20s are as ugly
> as the aborigines (like in Fox TV's celebrities without makeup) but
> most Asian/Caucasian hybrids are still beautiful even in their old age.
> Most South East Asian / Caucasian hybrids and also most North East
> Asian / Caucasian hybrids are far more cute and beautiful than a pure
> Caucasian celebrity to the eyes of Asians. So I guess we should
> encourage more of this crossbreeding to produce more of this superior
> beautiful people hybrid race than pure Caucasians to the eyes of
> Asians. LOL Oh yeah! :-D
Though I wouldn't call them hybrids I agree with you that the offspring of
mixed race couples are very beautiful in most cases. And genetic flow is
good for the gene pool also. :-)
Eurasian Piggy
In North America this is how it developed. It is not that way in Europe
for one. Also, Russian people anywhere are not "former Russians" but
are just Russians and are never Asians. Come'on, bring a Russian like
that to any village in the Philippines and what will people say to him?
"Hi, Joe" probably.
Turks, Arabs and Indians are Asians.
The reason things got out of hand like that in North America was
because before you had Europeans, Asians, Africans and also Orientals
as a more specific group. Asians was for any people in Asia- the
MEsterners, the Indians and the Japanese, 'Oriental' was for East
Asians ( and no, not the blond ones from Vladivostok). Then the word
Oriental got banned and East Asian borrowed "Asian" and never returned
it.
Okay but why are russions not asians? Granted they are historically
tied with Europe, but then, aren't the turks that way as well?
On 3 Nov 2005 21:00:07 -0800, "InspiredPoet"
<inspired_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Also, Russian people anywhere are not "former Russians" but
>are just Russians and are never Asians. Come'on, bring a Russian like
>that to any village in the Philippines and what will people say to him?
>"Hi, Joe" probably.
heh heh
Some years ago we actually had a guy who posted a whole series of
tales lampooning how he, as a Russian (actually from one of the
Satellite countries, I disremember which one) living in the Phils, was
continually hailed as "Hey, Joe!" whenever he was out in public.
His handle was ExpatAuthority and I found his posts absolutely
hilarious. OTOH, DSP was offended and flamed him mercilessly.
One of his last posts in that series was about Christ on the cross. In
his final moments, He looked up and called out, "Hey, Joe!"
Occasionally, he briefly reappears in this venerable forum and, true
to form, Pig once again goes apeshit.
LoloBat
ah yes, I remember it well .......
Regards,
Paul Kekai Manansala
http://sambali.blogspot.com/
Arabs and african-americans often prefer hefty women.
By the way, Rose or Paul, can you delineate and contrast the words
"mayabang" and "suplada" for me. No one in Davao del Norte province
speaks english well enough to help me on this. I'm not joking.
People in Davao del Norte don't even drink coffee; I am not joking.
whereas Davao city has half a dozen coffee specialty shops. Also, if
you ask for salt or pepper at a restaurant in Davao del Norte, the
staff will scramble around for 20 minutes to find it in the darkest
recesses of deep storage. Of course, vinegar and soysauce are
automatically presented with any food.
30 minutes out of the big city, and you're in a time warp. It's as if
the spaniards never arrived.
> >Where did you live, and where are you living now? Back to Inang Bayan?
> No am currently in Oz.
Ah, another kangoroo-Flip! ;-)
> Was back "Home" last year.
Do you travel back "home" on a frequent basis or was it the first time after
many years?
> >> Is my non asian wife pretty to others or not? Who cares.
> >Hmm...
> >Unlike women, men use to take some PRIDE in the beauty of their partners.
> Sure, however as mentioned a number of times on this thread some of us
> rate other things more important and appealing.
Good thing. So everybody gets her /his chance to find a partner.
> >To have a wife who is considered beautiful BY OTHERS has some kind of
prestige
> >value for a man.
> Keeping the "Others" at bay may at times be a concern! There are still
> lots of guys around that don't really care what others may think,
> provided home is a great place to be.
Yes, if you are lucky with what you have at home you don't need to care
about anyone's opinion.
> >Though beauty is in the eye of the beholder, there is still some common
> >denominator about what is considered beautiful, even across cultural and
> >racial borders. Just look at the sites which Boracay Bill listed.
> Agreed, My first post was at issue with the statement that Foreigners
> marry ugly Filipinas, seems I have as usual strayed somewhat from the
> issue.
Well, you haven't strayed far from the issue, but who cares anyway? Talking
about Pinoy relationships is ALWAYS on topic! :-))
International Piggy
> people often mistake me for being chinese and are surprised to learn
> that i am filipina. it's funny but for some guys this realization seems
> to be a turn off, like they would rather have a 'real' asian girl. at
> least one guy has said this, 'oh, i thought you were asian'!!
Maybe Americans categorize Filipinos/as differently for historical reasons,
because the Philippines was once American commonwealth.
In Germany some people maybe couldn't find the Philippines on a map
immately, but they wouldn't have much doubt that it's Asian. And because
they are "rare birds", Filipinas enjoy the same or maybe more admiration for
their Asian looks as Chinese, Japanese, Thais etc.
What people see in you depends a lot on where you are! :-)
Different Angle Piggy
> Tresa wrote:
> > people often mistake me for being chinese and are surprised to learn
> > that i am filipina. it's funny but for some guys this realization seems
> > to be a turn off, like they would rather have a 'real' asian girl. at
> > least one guy has said this, 'oh, i thought you were asian'!!
> You know they have a weird defintion of "asian" out there. Who else
> aren't asians: arabs, white people in Asia (i.e. those former
> russians), indians. Asian seems to be limited to the yellow race.
Every category has its TYPICAL members and some "fringes" with untypical
members.
If someone asks you to name a bird, which would come to your mind first?
Probably a maya or an eagle, but probably NOT a penguin or a kiwi. Some are
simply more typical birds than others.
Same thing with Africans - though there are white Africans in South Africa,
if someone is talking about Africans, it's probably black people who come to
your mind.
And Asians? Yes, yellow skin, straight black hair and slant eyes make the
"typical" Asian. I admit that I can't really think of Arabs as Asians - they
are worlds apart from what I recognize as "real" Asians, although -
geographically spoken - they too are Asians.
Typical Piggy
Most Russians and Turks have definitely caucasian features, so they are
considered Europeans. Simply eyeball judgement. :-)
Ural And Bosporus Piggy
> >Also, Russian people anywhere are not "former Russians" but
> >are just Russians and are never Asians. Come'on, bring a Russian like
> >that to any village in the Philippines and what will people say to him?
> >"Hi, Joe" probably.
> heh heh
>
> Some years ago we actually had a guy who posted a whole series of
> tales lampooning how he, as a Russian (actually from one of the
> Satellite countries, I disremember which one) living in the Phils, was
> continually hailed as "Hey, Joe!" whenever he was out in public.
He's from Ukraine.
> His handle was ExpatAuthority and I found his posts absolutely
> hilarious. OTOH, DSP was offended and flamed him mercilessly.
>
> One of his last posts in that series was about Christ on the cross. In
> his final moments, He looked up and called out, "Hey, Joe!"
LOL
> Occasionally, he briefly reappears in this venerable forum and, true
> to form, Pig once again goes apeshit.
Doesn't he ALWAYS? :-D
Nomen Est Omen Piggy
"Suplada" is like being snotty, or a snob. If you approach a Filipina and
you say "Hi" and she just walks away with her nose in the air she is being
"suplada". The word for men would be "suplado". That one is also synonymous
with "Pong".
<dances_wit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131147244.0...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>Hey!!!
> >>I am the result of many racial mix.. and the pinches of old maids on my
> >>cheeks really hurt!! Stop calling me a hybrid.
> > A hybrid is the offspring of two different species. Kung anak ng tao at
isda
> > you can't deny to be the perfect hybrid! ;-)
> >>Former superboy Caine would knock you out, since he is one too... :-)
> > Really? What's his background?
> I don't know, but he has Pinay mom. He looks a bit like my older brother
> when he was young.
Until now I thought you are talking about MICHAEL Caine, but I couldn't
believe that he got a Pinay mom, he just doesn't show the slightest trace of
Filipinoness. Now I googled for him and found out that there is DEAN Caine,
too. So, are you talking about this guy?
http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thekolonel.com/pictures/sup
erman.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.thekolonel.com/actors.html&h=495&w=396&sz=22&
tbnid=3VO4te0hwscJ:&tbnh=127&tbnw=101&hl=de&start=12&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddean
%2Bcaine%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dde%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG
SuperPiggy
If you teach people to learn without your own bias, you can only hope
they get to the right direction. You give them your bias, they will,
well, most of them will just turn against you.
A good teacher teaches the concept, and pound it in if one has to,
otherwise fail the student.
A teacher shows how to get to the road, the student has to make it on
their own.
Sorry, I don't know his first name, you see, I don't watch TV unless it
is a good movie.
> It's Dean Cain. Read http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001002/
He's proof of Rajah's theory that "hybrid children" are extra good looking.
:-)
But someone in a blog said his mother is Japanese. So what is he? Half-Pinoy
or half-Japanese?
Half Piggy
> >>>>Hey!!!
> >>>>I am the result of many racial mix.. and the pinches of old maids on
my
> >>>>cheeks really hurt!! Stop calling me a hybrid.
> >>>>Former superboy Caine would knock you out, since he is one too... :-)
> >>>Really? What's his background?
> >>I don't know, but he has Pinay mom. He looks a bit like my older brother
> >>when he was young.
Cool! :-)
> > Until now I thought you are talking about MICHAEL Caine, but I couldn't
> > believe that he got a Pinay mom, he just doesn't show the slightest
trace of
> > Filipinoness. Now I googled for him and found out that there is DEAN
Caine,
> > too. So, are you talking about this guy?
> >
http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thekolonel.com/pictures/sup
> >
erman.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.thekolonel.com/actors.html&h=495&w=396&sz=22&
> >
tbnid=3VO4te0hwscJ:&tbnh=127&tbnw=101&hl=de&start=12&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddean
> > %2Bcaine%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dde%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG
> Sorry, I don't know his first name, you see, I don't watch TV unless it
> is a good movie.
I think you can't be a dedicated TV user and a dedicated usenet poster at
the same time.
I don't watch TV unless it's something Philippine related. :-))
Discriminatory Piggy
Hi Tresa! Why don't you tell us more about yourself? Like where do
you live now?
There certainly are a lot of Flips there. I believe a few of my high
school friends are there. Meanwhile I'm stuck in boring RP.
:-)
I do watch the news, except Fox News.
> yeah, i guess your last statement is true. anyway, i have such mixed
> lineage and lived first in negros and then in hong kong, where i was
> adopted temporarily by a cantonese family, i sometimes don't even know
> what kind of asian i am. where i live now, though, it matters less.
Which is the language you are the most comfortable with? This might give a
hint of what kind of Asian (or American) you are.
Anyway, I guess you cherish your Filipino heritage. If not, you probably
wouldn't post here. :-)
Cherishing Filipinos Piggy
i certainly still think of myself as a filipina.