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DKESSEL

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I would like to point out about the unique western names in RP..especially
those of ladies...the guy's names seem to be eith ordinary English or
Spanish...I am not talking about native names...

For example, names such as Ro-Ann, Erlinda, Liezl, and Lielana (I think) are
unique to RP...for I have never seen such names anywhere else...

Also, as far as the Hispanic surnnames...they seem to be a bit different
from "other" Hispanic countries...

For example..if you go to ,say, Puerto Rico, there will be about a 100
names...
most of then Gomez, Lopez, Rodrigiez, etc...

In RP I have seen really unique surnames...they sound Hispanic but at the
same time..I have never encountered them while working with the "real"
Hispanic people...

Any comments are welcome

Azmik

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Okay here goes:

Yeah i noticed some very peculiar Pinoy style names...

First names:

Roel, Arnel, Darnell, Romy, Boy
(KOMBOH Names)-----> Johnray, Joemar, Marikris
Jocelyn, Monticello, Butch, Baby, Lotlot, Pepsi

Last names:
("Cion" List) Purificacion, Resurrecion, Consolacion, Encarnacion,
Constipacion, Masturbacion, Assimilacion, Fornicacion,
Emancipacion-Proclamacion

Edwin "AZMIKA" Azmicacion

DKESSEL

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He-he-he...


First time in RP one lady introduced herself to me;

She said "Hi I am Baby,"

I answered " Hi I am "Adult"

....Why would a lady be called a "Boy"? Are there guys called : a "Girl"
But there is a name : "Gerly". Where and how did these names originate?
Could they be from some movies? Nicknames of some favorite actors/actresses?

Also, there are very few names in Latin America that end in -cion...

Was it different Spaniards that colonised the place?

Did they use a different "lista de apellidos"?

DevinRage

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>I would like to point out about the unique western names in RP..especially
>those of ladies...the guy's names seem to be eith ordinary English or
>Spanish...I am not talking about native names...
>
>For example, names such as Ro-Ann, Erlinda, Liezl, and Lielana (I think) are
>unique to RP...for I have never seen such names anywhere else...

One thing that is very common amongst Filipinos, when naming their children, is
to combine parts of the parents first names. For example, the name that you
mentioned, Ro-Ann, may be a combination of Roland and Anna. Another example is
my name. My father is named Jimmy and my mother is Milagros. Hence my name,
Jimil. J-I-M from my dad and I-L from my mom. I'm sure there are other
reasons of the "unique" first names but this one comes across to me as one of
the big factors.

As for surnames, I'm afraid I don't know too much on that.

Cheers.

Poncio Pilato

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DKESSEL wrote:
>
> Also, as far as the Hispanic surnnames...they seem to be a bit different
> from "other" Hispanic countries...

> In RP I have seen really unique surnames...they sound Hispanic but at the


> same time..I have never encountered them while working with the "real"
> Hispanic people...

And all the while I thought the family name Mendiola
was hispanic. It turned out not to be. So I could
only surmise that it is a corruption of a chinese
name Minh Chu Lah.

Majority of the Filipinos have chinese blood more than
hispanic due to the migration/commerce interaction long
before Magellan's arrival. Typical are the following
which are corruptions of original chinese names: Sison
(Sy Sung), Quezon (Keh Son) Quimson (Kim Sun), Quisumbing
(Kim Sun Binh), Cojuangco (Koh Huang Koh), Tanseco (Tan
Seh Ko), Tambunting (Tan Bunh Teng), Tambucho (ooops)....

Poncio(PonCioPao)

Noel F. Tamayo

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One property of some Filipino names seems to be the combination of other
proper names like Luzviminda (Luzon-Visayas-Mindanao) or parents names
like Rodmar (Rodrigo & Maria).

Plus, I can't help but mention the uniqueness of the name "Mari*el"
where * can take on almost any letter of the alphabet (Maribel, Maricel,
Maridel, Mariel, Marifel.....Marizel).

DKESSEL wrote:
>
> I would like to point out about the unique western names in RP..especially
> those of ladies...the guy's names seem to be eith ordinary English or
> Spanish...I am not talking about native names...
>
> For example, names such as Ro-Ann, Erlinda, Liezl, and Lielana (I think) are
> unique to RP...for I have never seen such names anywhere else...
>

> Also, as far as the Hispanic surnnames...they seem to be a bit different
> from "other" Hispanic countries...
>

> For example..if you go to ,say, Puerto Rico, there will be about a 100
> names...
> most of then Gomez, Lopez, Rodrigiez, etc...

Yes, but when you consider surnames of people from Spain or South
America, you'll find a wealth of other Spanish names, not just the ones
you mentioned. This is due primarily to the Spanish colonization of the
Philippines.

>
> In RP I have seen really unique surnames...they sound Hispanic but at the
> same time..I have never encountered them while working with the "real"
> Hispanic people...

>
> Any comments are welcome

Jun B.

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O.K. I'll bite.

On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:52:42 -0800, "DKESSEL"
<david....@MCI2000.com> wrote:

:I would like to point out about the unique western names in RP..especially
:those of ladies...the guy's names seem to be eith ordinary English or
:Spanish...I am not talking about native names...
:
:For example, names such as Ro-Ann, Erlinda, Liezl, and Lielana (I think) are
:unique to RP...for I have never seen such names anywhere else...

Liezel sounds Scandinavian to me. Kinda like Heidi (which is also not
uncommon in the Philippines.) Comes from the mish-mash of American
influence, I bet.

:Also, as far as the Hispanic surnnames...they seem to be a bit different


:from "other" Hispanic countries...
:
:For example..if you go to ,say, Puerto Rico, there will be about a 100
:names...
:most of then Gomez, Lopez, Rodrigiez, etc...

The Hispanic surnames of course come from the time when, while under
Spanish rule, the Filipinos were ordered to choose a surname and stick
with it. Many surnames in the book were of Spanish origin, e.g.
Reyes, Gomez, Zamora, etc.

:In RP I have seen really unique surnames...they sound Hispanic but at the


:same time..I have never encountered them while working with the "real"
:Hispanic people...

Those other surnames are probably authentic "Filipino" surnames. Much
like Bontoc or Basa.
:
:Any comments are welcome
:

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Jun B.
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JH

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Poncio Pilato wrote:

> And all the while I thought the family name Mendiola
> was hispanic. It turned out not to be. So I could
> only surmise that it is a corruption of a chinese
> name Minh Chu Lah.

I think *your* name may be a corruption but I know Latin Americans with that
family name (Spanish).


JH

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Jun B. wrote:

> :For example, names such as Ro-Ann, Erlinda, Liezl, and Lielana (I think) are
> :unique to RP...for I have never seen such names anywhere else...
>
> Liezel sounds Scandinavian to me. Kinda like Heidi (which is also not
> uncommon in the Philippines.) Comes from the mish-mash of American
> influence, I bet.

it's the German diminutive for Lisa (Liese), which comes from Elizabeth. own of
the kids in 'The Sound of Music' was a Liesl - perhaps it came from that?

> The Hispanic surnames of course come from the time when, while under
> Spanish rule, the Filipinos were ordered to choose a surname and stick
> with it. Many surnames in the book were of Spanish origin, e.g.
> Reyes, Gomez, Zamora, etc.

yeah, but he's asking why so many Filipino surnames are
so...unusual....gloriously evocative - as opposed to Garcia, Gomez, Hernandez,
etc.! Like Urdaneta, Legazpi, Mondragon, Pagela (lola), Fagela (another lola) -
my mother's name is Arquero and I haven't found any other Arqueros from Spain or
South America.

Or what about Rizal? I haven't heard that outside the Philippines.

Only in the Philippines, it seems, do we see names like Imaculata Paz. You know,
those Marian names that have gone out of style everywhere else, it seems....

Bambam Q.

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DKESSEL wrote:

> He-he-he...
>
> First time in RP one lady introduced herself to me;
>
> She said "Hi I am Baby,"
>
> I answered " Hi I am "Adult"
>
> ....Why would a lady be called a "Boy"? Are there guys called : a "Girl"
> But there is a name : "Gerly". Where and how did these names originate?
> Could they be from some movies? Nicknames of some favorite actors/actresses?
>

My brother-in-law is called "Boy" and I have a female friend called "Girlie,"
but I've never heard of a lady named "Boy." Are you sure the person wasn't in
drag?

--
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Bambam Q.

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Bambam Q.

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Azmik wrote:

> Okay here goes:
>
> Yeah i noticed some very peculiar Pinoy style names...
>
> First names:
>
> Roel, Arnel, Darnell, Romy, Boy
> (KOMBOH Names)-----> Johnray, Joemar, Marikris
> Jocelyn, Monticello, Butch, Baby, Lotlot, Pepsi

Actually the names Jocelyn and Butch are not uniquely Filipino. I had an
Afro-American co-worker once with the name Jocelyn.

Johnny Thor

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Poncio Pilato <pon...@pilate.com> wrote in article
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>
> And all the while I thought the family name Mendiola
> was hispanic. It turned out not to be.

My surname "Thor", I've been told, was originally "Toreador." I guess I had
Spanish bullfighting ancestors.

Sadly, some dumbarse ascendant had a lisp and couldn't spell. So it became
"Thor".

Johnny
WhoKnowsHisRoots,ArrowrootBikkies


Anak Pawis

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Jun B. wrote:
>
> O.K. I'll bite.
> (snip)

> Those other surnames are probably authentic "Filipino" surnames. Much
> like Bontoc or Basa.
> :
> :Any comments are welcome
> :

Hi Jun,

Kung pangalan ng Pinoy ang pag-uusapan, marami kayong makikita sa
web-site na 'to: http://www.bibingka.com/names/

Enjoy,

Anak Pawis

Disclaimer: hindi po sa akin ang site na ito


Bambam Q.

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Poncio Pilato wrote:

<snip>

> Majority of the Filipinos have chinese blood more than
> hispanic due to the migration/commerce interaction long
> before Magellan's arrival. Typical are the following
> which are corruptions of original chinese names: Sison
> (Sy Sung), Quezon (Keh Son) Quimson (Kim Sun),


No, no, no, no, no! "Quimson" is Latin for "Goodlooking!" ;^)

--
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Bosco Moriones

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DKESSEL wrote:
>
> He-he-he...
>
> First time in RP one lady introduced herself to me;
>
> She said "Hi I am Baby,"
>
> I answered " Hi I am "Adult"
>
> ....Why would a lady be called a "Boy"? Are there guys called : a "Girl"
> But there is a name : "Gerly". Where and how did these names originate?
> Could they be from some movies? Nicknames of some favorite actors/actresses?
>
> Also, there are very few names in Latin America that end in -cion...
>
> Was it different Spaniards that colonised the place?
>
> Did they use a different "lista de apellidos"?

I was led to believe that, early during the Spanish occupation Filipinos
had only a single name (ie no 'family' name).

The Spanish then decreed that all 'natives' must select a name from a
list provided by the occupation government. Broadly speaking, the choice
was restricted alphabetically to good old Spanish names (properly
Christian and all that, rather than the 'witch doctor' mumbo jumbo of
the locals, don't y'know old chap), depending on which part of the
country one came from.

Thus, for example, new surnames beginning with 'A' to 'C' (Alvarez,
Concepcion etc) would come from the north - Ilocos, Cagayan etc - with
'W', 'X', 'Y' and 'Z ' from the south (Southern Mindanao). The idea was
to keep tabs on the unruly blighters!

My wife's family name begins with 'L' and she is from Samar, so that
kinda fits.

I'd be interested if anyone can confirm this explanation, or even expand
on the information.


LojoPelo

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>For example, names such as Ro-Ann, Erlinda, Liezl, and Lielana (I think) are
>unique to RP...for I have never seen such names anywhere else...

"Erlinda" is truly Filipino. Liezl is Austrian, Lielana
is Hawaiian. But remember, Filipinos have the penchant
in changing spelling , deviating from the standard, presumably
to produce an effect which most of the time, sad to say , is
in bad taste.

Lojo

Norman G. Owen

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Bosco Moriones wrote:>
> I was led to believe that, early during the Spanish occupation Filipinos
> had only a single name (ie no 'family' name).

Not quite. Many (most, according to the parish records) had two names,
or even three. Unfortunately -- from an administrative viewpoint -- in
many cases none of these was a proper 'family' name, in the sense that
parents and children shared it. So you could have Juan Francisco
married to Maria Clara and their children might be Tomas San Carlos and
Maria Candelaria. You also had people changing their name frequently,
so that Juan Francisco may also show up as Juan San Francisco, and/or
Francisco San Juan, and maybe Juan Santos or Juan Salvador ...
Obviously it didn't confuse the Filipinos themselves -- they clearly
knew who they were -- but it did confuse the government (and potentially
the church, which was trying to make certain cousins didn't marry each
other within certain degrees of consanguinity).

>
> The Spanish then decreed that all 'natives' must select a name from a
> list provided by the occupation government. Broadly speaking, the choice
> was restricted alphabetically to good old Spanish names (properly
> Christian and all that, rather than the 'witch doctor' mumbo jumbo of
> the locals, don't y'know old chap),

Not really. The Catalogo Alfabetico de Apellidos, issued in 1849 (I
have a copy of the 1973 reprint) included *tens of thousands* of
Filipino names as well as Spanish ones -- I suspect actually more,
though so far as I know no one has ever counted. (There are about
70,000 names listed, I would estimate) Priests were asked to supply
names of plants, etc., in local dialects to be used.
Opening at random I find: bapa, bapul, bapuyos, baquerin, baqueriza,
baquero, baqueros, baquiano, baqui, baquiao, baquillas ... and so forth,
nearly 500 names a page.
The only restrictions were on the names of actual Spanish nobility
(can't have "indios" passing themselves off as hidalgos) and a few
extremely common names (e.g., de los Santos), which wouldn't solve the
problem of administrative confusion.

depending on which part of the
country one came from.>
> Thus, for example, new surnames beginning with 'A' to 'C' (Alvarez,
> Concepcion etc) would come from the north - Ilocos, Cagayan etc - with
> 'W', 'X', 'Y' and 'Z ' from the south (Southern Mindanao).

Not exactly. Each provincial governor was -- as best I can figure it
out -- given the complete "Catalogo" and told to go sort out everyone in
the province, to make sure they all had proper family names, with the
children having the same name as their father, and no unnecessary
duplication, etc. The implementation of this varied widely.
In some provinces, apparently they didn't much bother at all. In some
(e.g., Camarines) each town would get a sprinkling of new names,
presumably selected or assigned from the whole list. In others (e.g.,
Albay), they apparently worked alphabetically through the list (maybe
they tore out pages?) so that all (or almost all) the new names in one
town would begin with A, the next B, the next C, and so forth. Oas was
nearly all "R," so jokingly they would, in the 20th century, claim
people like Rizal and Roosevelt -- must be from Oas, just look at the
family name!

The idea was to keep tabs on the unruly blighters!

Absolutely right. That's what it was all about.


>
> My wife's family name begins with 'L' and she is from Samar, so that
> kinda fits.

Coincidence, at least in the archipelago-wide framework. I'd be
interested as to whether her townmates mostly have/had last names
beginnings with L also.


>
> I'd be interested if anyone can confirm this explanation, or even expand
> on the information.

I've tried to do so. I should point out that there were also a few
families which had pretty much settled on a "family" name beforehand and
kept it after 1849, in apparent defiance of the decree. As always, in
the Spanish Philippines, there was a huge gap between policy and
reality.

Most of the information here can be found in the introduction to the
1973 Catalogo, which is nominally by Domingo Abella (though I was
actually the "ghost-writer"). On the incomplete implementation, the
best source is the parish records from before and after 1849, wherein
you can (sometimes) find the actual shifts: Maria Oldname becomes (for
a few years) Maria Newname Oldname becomes (eventually) Maria Newname.

Hope this helps.

Norman G. Owen
ngo...@hku.hk

Jun B.

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On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 01:13:58 -0800, Poncio Pilato <pon...@pilate.com>
wrote:

:Majority of the Filipinos have chinese blood more than

:hispanic due to the migration/commerce interaction long
:before Magellan's arrival. Typical are the following
:which are corruptions of original chinese names: Sison

:(Sy Sung), Quezon (Keh Son) Quimson (Kim Sun), Quisumbing

:(Kim Sun Binh), Cojuangco (Koh Huang Koh), Tanseco (Tan
:Seh Ko), Tambunting (Tan Bunh Teng), Tambucho (ooops)....

And let's not forget that other name, brought to us by Don Bonifacio
-- LIMTUACO (Lim Tua Koh)

O! *Hik* Ipasa na ang Wh*Hik*ite Kashel *Hik*!

JunB*Hik!*
--------------

Jun B.
bai...@interlog.com

Kasangkot

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Last names like Maglaban, Magtanggol, Mangahas, Magtabog, Magsalin,
Maghasik, Maglinaw, Magbitang, Sumulong, Sumibol, Sumilang, Lumaban,
Liwanag, Tagumpay, etc. are quite authentic. The most probable reason
they were allowed to retain such last names and not adapt a Christian
name is perhaps they were among the clans/tribes most influential ones
with a significantly "fighter-sounding" names that the church preferred
to collaborate with them by not forcing them to change names. Thus, they
are probably among the ruling elite/sultans and datus at the time.

Whatever happened to the (Si)Katunas, Sulaymans, Matandas, etc?

--------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: Filipino Names/the HOT list!
From: "Norman G. Owen" <ngo...@hkucc.hku.hk>
Date: Thu, Jan 29, 1998 2:16 AM
Message-id: <34D02C...@hkucc.hku.hk>

Bambam Q.

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LojoPelo wrote:


And the most Filipino name is....<drum roll>...Luzviminda!

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Hector Santos

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Kasangkot wrote:
>
> Last names like Maglaban, Magtanggol, Mangahas, Magtabog, Magsalin,
> Maghasik, Maglinaw, Magbitang, Sumulong, Sumibol, Sumilang, Lumaban,
> Liwanag, Tagumpay, etc. are quite authentic. The most probable reason
> they were allowed to retain such last names and not adapt a Christian
> name is perhaps they were among the clans/tribes most influential ones
> with a significantly "fighter-sounding" names that the church preferred
> to collaborate with them by not forcing them to change names. Thus, they
> are probably among the ruling elite/sultans and datus at the time.
>
> Whatever happened to the (Si)Katunas, Sulaymans, Matandas, etc?

If you can prove that your family had been using the same last name for
three generations, you were allowed to keep it whether it was a local
name (allowed anyway and listed in the catálogo) or the name of a saint
(frowned upon, normally).

Sulaiman, et al were restricted in their use since the very beginning to
the descendants of those royal people. This is because they had special
privileges with regards to taxes and other matters guarranteed by the
Spanish regime.

---
Hector Santos <hect...@ibm.net> Los Angeles
"A Philippine Leaf" at http://www.bibingka.com/dahon

JH

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Johnny Thor wrote:

> My surname "Thor", I've been told, was originally "Toreador." I guess I had
> Spanish bullfighting ancestors.
>
> Sadly, some dumbarse ascendant had a lisp and couldn't spell. So it became
> "Thor".

are you sure it wasn't you? ;-)


Norman G. Owen

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Hector Santos wrote:

>
> Kasangkot wrote:
> >
> > Last names like Maglaban, Magtanggol, Mangahas, Magtabog, Magsalin,
> > Maghasik, Maglinaw, Magbitang, Sumulong, Sumibol, Sumilang, Lumaban,
> > Liwanag, Tagumpay, etc. are quite authentic. The most probable reason
> > they were allowed to retain such last names and not adapt a Christian
> > name is perhaps they were among the clans/tribes most influential ones
> > with a significantly "fighter-sounding" names that the church preferred
> > to collaborate with them by not forcing them to change names. Thus, they
> > are probably among the ruling elite/sultans and datus at the time.
> >
I'm not sure about this. The enforced name change comes almost 300
years after the conquest, so powerful datus of the 16th century would
not necessarily have been still acknowledged by the Spanish (but see
below for a very few families). On the other hand, such families may
simply have had a greater interest in preserving a "family" name, which
would have suited the Spanish fine. As noted, the decree was *not* in
general designed to force Filipinos to give up indigenous names, simply
to make sure that they could be identified by "proper" surnames, of
whatever origin.

> > Whatever happened to the (Si)Katunas, Sulaymans, Matandas, etc?
>

> If you can prove that your family had been using the same last name for
> three generations, you were allowed to keep it whether it was a local
> name (allowed anyway and listed in the catálogo) or the name of a saint
> (frowned upon, normally).

The major exception to this was names "like de la Cruz, de los Santos,
and some others which are so numerous that they would continue producing
confusion." But the number of Filipinos still named (de la) Cruz or
indeed (de la) Santos (thank you, Hector!) indicates how imperfectly
this was implemented.


>
> Sulaiman, et al were restricted in their use since the very beginning to
> the descendants of those royal people. This is because they had special
> privileges with regards to taxes and other matters guarranteed by the
> Spanish regime.

The decree specifies (article 8): "To avoid confusion which might
result to the prejudice of those who with their surnames inherited from
His Majesty certain benefits, the names of Lacandola, Mojica, Tupas, and
Raja Matanda shall not be adoped except by those who have a just title
to possess them."

>
> ---
> Hector Santos <hect...@ibm.net> Los Angeles
> "A Philippine Leaf" at http://www.bibingka.com/dahon


Norman G. Owen
ngo...@hku.hk

Johnny Thor

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>
> are you sure it wasn't you? ;-)
>

Can you imagine, if my ancestor was "ngo-ngo"? Then you'd be calling me
Johnny Whore.

Johnny
Whorementado


JH

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Johnny Thor wrote:

> Can you imagine, if my ancestor was "ngo-ngo"? Then you'd be calling me
> Johnny Whore.

*would* be?


Jolene

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I have been trying to track down some old family names, Gervacio &
Rorolda,
Can you tell me anything about the origination of these two? or what they
might mean? I believe they are from the Ilocos Norte.

Thanks, Jolene

jwal...@citytelprct65.citytel.net

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>My surname "Thor", I've been told, was originally "Toreador." I guess I had
>Spanish bullfighting ancestors.

You're positive you have no Scandinavian origins?

Don Dibos de la Mancha


Spooky Spook

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On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:41:10 -0800, "Bambam Q." <amdg85...@hooked.net> wrote:

#
#
# DKESSEL wrote:
#
# > He-he-he...
# >
# > First time in RP one lady introduced herself to me;
# >
# > She said "Hi I am Baby,"
# >
# > I answered " Hi I am "Adult"
# >
# > ....Why would a lady be called a "Boy"? Are there guys called : a "Girl"
# > But there is a name : "Gerly". Where and how did these names originate?
# > Could they be from some movies? Nicknames of some favorite actors/actresses?
# >
#
# My brother-in-law is called "Boy" and I have a female friend called "Girlie,"
# but I've never heard of a lady named "Boy." Are you sure the person wasn't in
# drag?
#
# --
# Pinagpipitagan,
#
# Bambam Q.
#
# http://www.hooked.net/~amdg85/
#
# "I assume full responsibility for my actions, except the ones that are someone
# else's fault"
#

Had a classmate called Honey

Spooky Spook

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On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:19:21 -0600, JH <cam...@chunnel.net> wrote:

# Jun B. wrote:
#
# > :For example, names such as Ro-Ann, Erlinda, Liezl, and Lielana (I think) are
# > :unique to RP...for I have never seen such names anywhere else...
# >
# > Liezel sounds Scandinavian to me. Kinda like Heidi (which is also not
# > uncommon in the Philippines.) Comes from the mish-mash of American
# > influence, I bet.
#
# it's the German diminutive for Lisa (Liese), which comes from Elizabeth. own of
# the kids in 'The Sound of Music' was a Liesl - perhaps it came from that?
#
# > The Hispanic surnames of course come from the time when, while under
# > Spanish rule, the Filipinos were ordered to choose a surname and stick
# > with it. Many surnames in the book were of Spanish origin, e.g.
# > Reyes, Gomez, Zamora, etc.
#
# yeah, but he's asking why so many Filipino surnames are
# so...unusual....gloriously evocative - as opposed to Garcia, Gomez, Hernandez,
# etc.! Like Urdaneta, Legazpi, Mondragon, Pagela (lola), Fagela (another lola) -
# my mother's name is Arquero and I haven't found any other Arqueros from Spain or
# South America.
#
# Or what about Rizal? I haven't heard that outside the Philippines.
#
# Only in the Philippines, it seems, do we see names like Imaculata Paz. You know,
# those Marian names that have gone out of style everywhere else, it seems....
#
#

Then there are family names like Dos Remedios, Tatlong Hari, Sanhi, Pangilinan,
Masil, Abcede etc....

JH

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jwal...@citytelprct65.citytel.net wrote:

> >My surname "Thor", I've been told, was originally "Toreador." I guess I had
> >Spanish bullfighting ancestors.
>
> You're positive you have no Scandinavian origins?

yeah, JT - where did you get the non-functioning 'h' as it wouldn't be
pronounced with a Pinoy accent?


JH

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Spooky Spook wrote:

> Then there are family names like Dos Remedios, Tatlong Hari, Sanhi, Pangilinan,
> Masil, Abcede etc....

Pangilinan? why does that sound familiar? does anybody famous have that name?

Johnny Thor

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JH <pang...@voltaire.net> wrote in article

<34D4A017...@voltaire.net>...


> jwal...@citytelprct65.citytel.net wrote:
>
> yeah, JT - where did you get the non-functioning 'h' as it wouldn't be
> pronounced with a Pinoy accent?
>

Good point, JH. Maybe my ancestor couldn't spell as well. (-0

JT


Bambam Q.

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JH wrote:


Angeli Pangilinan is Married to Gary Valenciano. Francis Pangilinan is married to
Sharon Cube..este...Cuneta.

--
Pinagpipitagan,

Bambam Q.
http://www.hooked.net/~amdg85

"OK, so what's the speed of dark?"

***Please remove "nospam" from my email address to reply***

PI...@webtv.net

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What Philippine country did you visit or come from? It must have been
the one in your wet dreams! I came from the Philippines and there are no
names like Masturbacion and Fornicacion. STOP MAKING THINGS UP!!!!

Azmik

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I know some Tatlonghari's, Abcede's, and the name Pangilinan (aka
Pangelinan) is a common surname in Guam...

>> > Then there are family names like Dos Remedios, Tatlong Hari, Sanhi,
Pangilinan,
>> > Masil, Abcede etc....

>> Pangilinan? why does that sound familiar? does anybody famous have that
name?
>
>
>Angeli Pangilinan is Married to Gary Valenciano. Francis Pangilinan is
married to
>Sharon Cube..este...Cuneta.


Azmik Azmicacion

tipitipitim-tipitom

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JH wrote:
>
> Spooky Spook wrote:
>
> > Then there are family names like Dos Remedios, Tatlong Hari, Sanhi, Pangilinan,
> > Masil, Abcede etc....
>
> Pangilinan? why does that sound familiar? does anybody famous have that name?

FRANCISCO "Kiko" PANGILINAN, DOES THIS NAME RING A BELL? WELL, HE'S THE
ONE WHO MARRIED "THE MEGA STAR"(IN THE PHIL. MOVIE),SHARON CUNETA.

Kardo

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Azmik wrote:

> I know some Tatlonghari's, Abcede's, and the name Pangilinan (aka
> Pangelinan) is a common surname in Guam...

hey azmik. speaking of filipino names, yours isn't really traditional
pinoy name. sound's more like that of a gangsta (not that there aren't
any pinoy crips, i know there are) ;) what's the background behind
azmik, the name?

ricky ricardo


Azmik

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Sorry for the late response.....the Microsoft server doesn't quite pick up
all posts...if it seems I'm ignoring you...its the server:


Kamusta Kardo:

"Azmik" is the name they gave me when they "jumped me in" the Ese Te Ese
(aka SaTanaS) gang. JUST KIDDING!

It is my the name I used to scrawl all over the place growing up in the (San
Fernando) Valley. I am way past my tagging days of hitting up freeway
signs, handball courts, everything. Pretty spacey huh? Here are more Pinoy
gang sounding names:

KEEBLER (Real Pinoy Brothers)
SAD BOY (Scout Royal Brotherhood)

I didn't know my name sounded gang like...

Peace,
AZMIK aka Ed Divinagracia Sarmiento Lacambacal
Harlem Crip
Tongan Crip Gang
Playboy Gangster Crips
Rolling Sixties Crips
Venice Shore Line Crips

(yah know.....I've never heard of a Pinoy Crip gang? just bloods...)

JH

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Azmik wrote:

> It is my the name I used to scrawl all over the place growing up in the (San
> Fernando) Valley. I am way past my tagging days of hitting up freeway
> signs, handball courts, everything. Pretty spacey huh? Here are more Pinoy
> gang sounding names:

Are you serious????? It must be why I thought your name was so vaguely
familiar!!! I think I remember the freeway - 110? 5? 405? So, did your ass ever
get busted? Ever get in lockdown? hehehe you and Chaka - the famous LA
taggers....!


Kardo

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JH wrote:

> Are you serious????? It must be why I thought your name was so vaguely
>
> familiar!!! I think I remember the freeway - 110? 5? 405? So, did your
> ass ever
> get busted? Ever get in lockdown? hehehe you and Chaka - the famous LA
>
> taggers....!

he he
he he
he he
she said 'ass'

beavis


Azmik

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Johnny Thoracic!

That was hilarious...


>> Are you serious????? It must be why I thought your name was so vaguely
>> familiar!!! I think I remember the freeway - 110? 5? 405? So, did your
>ass ever
>> get busted?

only time I got caught was in high school. embarassing telling Inay why I
got suspended...she got pissed off and said I was showing off. Funny thing
I WAS haha!


Ever get in lockdown? hehehe you and Chaka - the famous LA
>> taggers....!

----------------maybe I had better change my name back to "Pinoy Batang" :)
....oh back in the days 1987-1990 it was such a rush to go out at night and
go all city. i would make my mind up and not sleep unless i went out
there....some of my high school buddies did drugs, others were into sex,
others into fighting, i was the lone tagger!

>I didn't know that you're a member of a gang! No wonder AC got scared of
>your harassmail, hehehe.
--------------no, i was never a member of a gang....we had our own barkada,
but we never beat anyone up......well, no one else but myself was punking
down people for trying to dog me. when did i harass AC? Is this in
reference to my wearing of baggy Tommy Hilfiger clothing/defending baggy
clothing wearing Pinoys?

>So where do you carry your tattoo, JH? 8-)
-----------------i have my cigarette burns (just kidding again) on my elbows
and my hands. My lower lip is tattooed with JT Johnny Thor :)

>Tubby
>MemberNgBahalaNaSaUlamGang

Regards,

AZMIK SPUTNIK

Kardo

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Johnny "Tubby" Thor wrote:

> I didn't know that you're a member of a gang! No wonder AC got scared
> of
> your harassmail, hehehe.
>

> So where do you carry your tattoo, JH? 8-)
>

> Tubby
> MemberNgBahalaNaSaUlamGang

tubby,

in america, tattoos are pretty much mainstream. when you come to the bay
area, have rhett show you 'round telegraph avenue in berkeley - and
check out those tattoo/smoke shops. get a 'teardrop' tattoo right under
your eye. and while you're at it, get something pierced too. no
pingpong shows over here though.

kardo


Johnny "Tubby" Thor

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JH <swa...@cymru.net> wrote in article <34DA919B...@cymru.net>...


>
> Are you serious????? It must be why I thought your name was so vaguely
> familiar!!! I think I remember the freeway - 110? 5? 405? So, did your
ass ever

> get busted? Ever get in lockdown? hehehe you and Chaka - the famous LA
> taggers....!
>

I didn't know that you're a member of a gang! No wonder AC got scared of

tipitipitim-tipitom

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she used to be a member of "KKK", (Kilabot ng Kababaihan sa Kulungan),
Gabriela Silang Chapter.

tipitipitim-tipitom

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Azmik wrote:
>
> Sorry for the late response.....the Microsoft server doesn't quite pick up
> all posts...if it seems I'm ignoring you...its the server:
>
> Kamusta Kardo:
>
> "Azmik" is the name they gave me when they "jumped me in" the Ese Te Ese
> (aka SaTanaS) gang. JUST KIDDING!
>
> It is my the name I used to scrawl all over the place growing up in the (San
> Fernando) Valley. I am way past my tagging days of hitting up freeway
> signs, handball courts, everything. Pretty spacey huh? Here are more Pinoy
> gang sounding names:
>
> KEEBLER (Real Pinoy Brothers)
> SAD BOY (Scout Royal Brotherhood)
>
> I didn't know my name sounded gang like...
>
> Peace,
> AZMIK aka Ed Divinagracia Sarmiento Lacambacal
> Harlem Crip
> Tongan Crip Gang
> Playboy Gangster Crips
> Rolling Sixties Crips
> Venice Shore Line Crips
>
> (yah know.....I've never heard of a Pinoy Crip gang? just bloods...)
> >hey azmik. speaking of filipino names, yours isn't really traditional
> >pinoy name. sound's more like that of a gangsta (not that there aren't
> >any pinoy crips, i know there are) ;) what's the background behind
> >azmik, the name?
> >
> >ricky ricardo
> >


sounds like we're relatives! my MI is SARMIENTO, from Banaba, Indang,
Cavite, that's my roots.

Paul Kekai Manansala

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In article <34CF5DF0...@hooked.net>,
"Bambam Q." <amdg85...@hooked.net> wrote:
>
>
>Azmik wrote:
>
>> Okay here goes:
>>
>> Yeah i noticed some very peculiar Pinoy style names...
>>
>> First names:
>>
>> Roel, Arnel, Darnell, Romy, Boy
>> (KOMBOH Names)-----> Johnray, Joemar, Marikris
>> Jocelyn, Monticello, Butch, Baby, Lotlot, Pepsi
>
>Actually the names Jocelyn and Butch are not uniquely Filipino. I had an
>Afro-American co-worker once with the name Jocelyn.
>


"Boy" is used - usually as a nickname - among different ethnic groups
in Hawai`i. Maybe this came from Filipino influence.

Johnny "Tubby" Thor

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tipitipitim-tipitom <tipiti...@tipi.tom> wrote in article
<34DB40...@tipi.tom>...


>
> sounds like we're relatives! my MI is SARMIENTO, from Banaba, Indang,
> Cavite, that's my roots.
>

Tipitips,

Napansin kong ang mga poste mo iyong petsa ay sobrang advance. Bakit, are
you posting from the future? Do you have a time machine? Kung meron, dalhin
mo naman sa picnic.

Tubby
PostingFromThePast


JH

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Kardo wrote:

> he he
> he he
> he he
> she said 'ass'
>
> beavis

shut up, buttmunch! ;-)

JH

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Azmik, so now you're in Shattle??? Being productive, I hope!


JH

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tipitipitim-tipitom wrote:

> she used to be a member of "KKK", (Kilabot ng Kababaihan sa Kulungan),
> Gabriela Silang Chapter.

ROFL!!!!!!!

JH

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Johnny "Tubby" Thor wrote:

> I didn't know that you're a member of a gang! No wonder AC got scared of
> your harassmail, hehehe.

no, that was thanks to Kenneth Starr, natch

> So where do you carry your tattoo, JH? 8-)

where you have no business looking!

ManongKiko

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How about a last name that has a different meaning from other dialect? These
are examples that make the Cebuanos laugh.

Ampo - it means surrender or quit
Bayaga- sounds like testicle
Bayot - bakla or Homosexual
Baluyot - A sack
Catacutan - it means ugly
Catamaran (Italian?) - Lazy
Dimaporo - it means hindi "pure"
Macaluso (Italian) - Mahilig sa titi
Pascua - lagi na lang pasko
Susumo (Japanese) - Suso mo
Tariki (sounds hawaian) - it means sexual intercourse
Vhadiaynha (Hindi) - ano pa ba sa pakinig ninyo?

Tansong Isda

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Paul Kekai Manansala wrote:

> "Boy" is used - usually as a nickname - among different ethnic groups
> in Hawai`i. Maybe this came from Filipino influence.

I think it's Hollywood, Tarzan's kid named "Boy". As a nickname is probably
Filipino but origin is Hollywood.


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