Ilocano Stereotypes
Azmik
As a Filipino American I usually get "What province are your parents from?".
Does it really matter? I do know that I am 3/4 Ilocano (or is it Ilokano?)
and 1/4 Tagalog, yes 100% Filipino. I've heard a lot of Ilocano stereotypes
I hope someone here can shed some light on:
Ilocanos (as I know it/or have been told):
-are really good with money (cheap and/or good business wise?)
-hot tempered (aren't we all?)
-adventurous (first Filipinos in Hawaii from Ilocos Norte/Sur)
-most numerous in the USA (is that true? i.e. Hawaii and USA West Coast)
-like to eat goat and dog
-are darker-skinned than the average Filipino
who started that last bit of stereotypism? i happen to know a lot of
"light-skinned" Ilocanos...or is it that I'm looking at the lightest
Ilocanos from a whole bunch of Filipino Americans that are mostly Ilocano.
There's no way to tell unless I ask each and every one Filipino I meet
whether or not they are Ilocano and take a picture of each one with the same
camera (in the same light, outdoors/indoors) . the reason I ask is that
many Filipinos think that THE LESS "FILIPINO" YOU LOOK THE BETTER/DARK=UGLY
etc.
i know a lot of Filipino Americans who can understand more Ilocano than
Tagalog.
Regards,
azmik
Azmik
Rommel P. Feria wrote in message <35D28571...@ieee.org>...
>Hello there!
Kamusta ka manong!
>Azmik wrote:
>Wow, ading! Ilokano ka pala. Ako rin - half-Ilocano and half-Pampango. My
dad's
>from San Narciso, Zambales and my mom's from Bacolor, Pampanga, or what
remains
>of it. =)
>
>> Ilocanos (as I know it/or have been told):
>> -are really good with money (cheap and/or good business wise?)
>
>They are known as kuripot. =)
-------yep!
>> -hot tempered (aren't we all?)
>
>Haven't heard of this.
>
>> -adventurous (first Filipinos in Hawaii from Ilocos Norte/Sur)
>
>Might be but most Pinoys are anyway.
>
>> -most numerous in the USA (is that true? i.e. Hawaii and USA West Coast)
>
>Hmmm... I found a whole bunch of em here in London, too. =)
>
>> -like to eat goat and dog
>
>DOG MEAT? Hmmm - my paternal side of the family don't eat dog meat. Goat
meat,
>yes! [whew! I miss kilawin kambing and kaldereta and not to forget
papaitan!
>hehe]
-------My Kapampangan girfriend was eating kaldareta last year and was
getting these tiny little bones in her teeth...she was grossed out when she
found out she was eating GOAT KALDARETA! she did say it tasted good
though...I'm mixed up now is it Kambing or Kalding (Tagalog or Ilocano,
which is which?)
>> -are darker-skinned than the average Filipino
>
>This may be because some of the Ilocanos are from Zambales where the native
>Zambals are dark-skinned. However, now, I think they've mellowed a bit. =)
-------does it have anything to do (like the Zambal you've mentioned) living
close to or in the mountains?
>> camera (in the same light, outdoors/indoors) . the reason I ask is that
>> many Filipinos think that THE LESS "FILIPINO" YOU LOOK THE
BETTER/DARK=UGLY
>> etc.
>
>I agree. Society has given such emphasis - blame society. =)
>
>> i know a lot of Filipino Americans who can understand more Ilocano than
>> Tagalog.
>
>I remember my cousin, half-Pinoy (half Ilocana) and a quarter American and
the
>rest Italian, who got in an elevator of a building somewhere in San
Francisco.
>With her inside the elevator were two other persons, Pinoys older than her,
who
>talked in Ilocano. She overheard them say, in Ilocano, how pretty she is
but
>petite (Pinoy but mestize without a hint of being Pinoy, =()... before
getting
>off the elevator, she said to those two, "Maraming salamat po"... they were
a
>bit surprised.... =) Another story I read somewhere was almost the same
thing
>but the comments were rather harsh -- "Ang pangit naman nitong babaing
ito...",
>I will leave it up to you as to what the girl said to them. =)
-------that's cool! hey Manong, how many Filipinos are in England?
Peace,
AZMIKA
>Cheers!
>
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>--oOOOo--
>Rommel Palma Feria http://www.upd.edu.ph/~rferia
Rommel P. Feria
Azmik wrote:
> I know that Filipinos like to ask each other "What province are you from?".
> As a Filipino American I usually get "What province are your parents from?".
> Does it really matter? I do know that I am 3/4 Ilocano (or is it Ilokano?)
These questions are often asked to set up a common base for a conversation.
Establishing whether or not the two conversationalists belong to the same
province (hence it might be possible to use their own local dialect as a means
of communications). It is like establishing a communications protocol -- first
find the common ground where both parties can communication -- if they don't
belong to the same province, chances are, they will speak in Filipino. However,
if one person does not understand/speak Filipino, English will be used.
These questions have nothing to do with sizing up the person as to whether
he/she is malambing (as they say of Illongas), kuripot (as they say of Ilocano),
mayabang but magaling magluto (as they say of Pampango), etc.
> and 1/4 Tagalog, yes 100% Filipino. I've heard a lot of Ilocano stereotypes
Wow, ading! Ilokano ka pala. Ako rin - half-Ilocano and half-Pampango. My dad's
from San Narciso, Zambales and my mom's from Bacolor, Pampanga, or what remains
of it. =)
> Ilocanos (as I know it/or have been told):
> -are really good with money (cheap and/or good business wise?)
They are known as kuripot. =)
> -hot tempered (aren't we all?)
Haven't heard of this.
> -adventurous (first Filipinos in Hawaii from Ilocos Norte/Sur)
Might be but most Pinoys are anyway.
> -most numerous in the USA (is that true? i.e. Hawaii and USA West Coast)
Hmmm... I found a whole bunch of em here in London, too. =)
> -like to eat goat and dog
DOG MEAT? Hmmm - my paternal side of the family don't eat dog meat. Goat meat,
yes! [whew! I miss kilawin kambing and kaldereta and not to forget papaitan!
hehe]
> -are darker-skinned than the average Filipino
This may be because some of the Ilocanos are from Zambales where the native
Zambals are dark-skinned. However, now, I think they've mellowed a bit. =)
> camera (in the same light, outdoors/indoors) . the reason I ask is that
> many Filipinos think that THE LESS "FILIPINO" YOU LOOK THE BETTER/DARK=UGLY
> etc.
I agree. Society has given such emphasis - blame society. =)
> i know a lot of Filipino Americans who can understand more Ilocano than
> Tagalog.
I remember my cousin, half-Pinoy (half Ilocana) and a quarter American and the
rest Italian, who got in an elevator of a building somewhere in San Francisco.
With her inside the elevator were two other persons, Pinoys older than her, who
talked in Ilocano. She overheard them say, in Ilocano, how pretty she is but
petite (Pinoy but mestize without a hint of being Pinoy, =()... before getting
off the elevator, she said to those two, "Maraming salamat po"... they were a
bit surprised.... =) Another story I read somewhere was almost the same thing
but the comments were rather harsh -- "Ang pangit naman nitong babaing ito...",
I will leave it up to you as to what the girl said to them. =)
Cheers!
--
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Rommel Palma Feria http://www.upd.edu.ph/~rferia
Biomedical Systems Group (P/G) r.p....@ieee.org
Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering
Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
London SW7 2BT Tel.No: 44-171-594-8891
United Kingdom Fax No: 44-171-584-6897
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Lead, follow or get out of the way... <anonymous>
Noel F. Tamayo
are included in the "You know you're Ilokano if" list, at
http://pw1.netcom.com/~ntamayo/ilocano.html.
Some are pretty frivolous, but alot of fellow Ilokanos have written
saying many items on the list were right in line with their observations
of families and friends.
Check it out and let me know what you think of it.
regards,
noel
MarcL
count
as among my best friends. But I won't label all Ilocanos with these
stereotypes,
in fact I've seen these stereotypes among numerous provincial traits of
people
I've met or knew.
Azmik wrote:
>
>
> Ilocanos (as I know it/or have been told):
>
> -are really good with money (cheap and/or good business wise?)
> -hot tempered (aren't we all?)
> -adventurous (first Filipinos in Hawaii from Ilocos Norte/Sur)
> -most numerous in the USA (is that true? i.e. Hawaii and USA West Coast)
> -like to eat goat and dog
Azmik
That's interesting where you mention that Ilokanos use either a fork or
spoon but never both. I thought my cousin was just being weird..
Late,
azmik
Noel F. Tamayo wrote in message <35D29C...@ix.netcom.com>...
Rommel P. Feria
Azmik wrote:
> -------My Kapampangan girfriend was eating kaldareta last year and was
> getting these tiny little bones in her teeth...she was grossed out when she
> found out she was eating GOAT KALDARETA! she did say it tasted good
> though...I'm mixed up now is it Kambing or Kalding (Tagalog or Ilocano,
> which is which?)
Really now... Pampangos are more adventurous when it comes to eating -- they eat
dog meat, crickets, frogs, etc. Goat is Kambing in Tagalog. I am not sure what
it is called in other dialects, though.
> >This may be because some of the Ilocanos are from Zambales where the native
> >Zambals are dark-skinned. However, now, I think they've mellowed a bit. =)
> -------does it have anything to do (like the Zambal you've mentioned) living
> close to or in the mountains?
Maybe... or even close to the sea.
> -------that's cool! hey Manong, how many Filipinos are in England?
Well, I don't know exactly how many but I have met quite a number of graduate
students and professionals here in England -- maybe around 50 graduate
students/scientists are in our PINOY-UK mailing list (some are back home
already).
Dirty Sick Pig
part of Ilocandia, I can contribute the following biased observations:
Azmik wrote:
> Ilocanos (as I know it/or have been told):
>
> -are really good with money (cheap and/or good business wise?)
Heck, yeah. To the point of being stingy. She's never tried her hands on any
commercial enterprise, though.
> -hot tempered (aren't we all?)
Nah. My Ilocana is very even tempered until I piss her off.
> -adventurous (first Filipinos in Hawaii from Ilocos Norte/Sur)
True. Now I realize why she insists on driving a brute 4WD '92 Dodge Ramcharger
that takes up the whole garage. Only her forehead appears on top of the
steering wheel so this is also a public service announcement to both man and
animal, specially those on wheelchairs.
> -most numerous in the USA (is that true? i.e. Hawaii and USA West Coast)
Don't know. Probably true for a while.
> -like to eat goat and dog
Kalding, oh yes. Tagpi, no, but she's had them before.
> -are darker-skinned than the average Filipino
My Ilocana is always mistaken for Vietnamese or Thai. She's more fair skinned
than most Ilocanas I've met and can tan wonderfully. I can agree with a lot of
other guys that she's a very striking woman, long legs and waist length hair and
all. Other women always get jealous of her. She quit aging at 30 and that's a
looooooooooooooong time ago. Hehehe.
> i know a lot of Filipino Americans who can understand more Ilocano than
> Tagalog.
My subject of comparison, who happened to give birth to me, grew up in Manila.
She speaks Ilocano, Tagalog, Spanish, and Profane. Piglish too.
> Regards,
>
> azmik
Pig
Albulario
>
May I add a positive trait. Ilocanos are industrious people.
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DocCG
"From the boondocks of VA"