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¡Otra joya más! - Punticoma 26.7.05

Punticoma 26.7.05

¡Otra joya más!

 

Rodolfo Schmidt

A Telesur habrá que cambiarle el nombre por Telecuba. El primer día de transmisión, y luego de la inauguración oficial,  estuvo dedicado -para todos los efectos-  a la intervención cubana  en el conflicto  del Congo 35 años atrás y, por supuesto, al terrorista homicida llamado Ché Guevara.

Así,  mientras la Cuba de hoy  implosiona aceleradamente, este régimen forajido financia -no se sabe a qué costo- la glorificación de la aventura  cubana en Africa de la cual salieron trasquilados.

De hecho, la única victoria que obtuvieron los cubanos en el exterior, fue con la ocupación  de Venezuela y su conversión en una dependencia  cubana.

Todo ello lleva a la reflexión  sobre ¿qué pasará en Venezuela  a raíz del colapso cubano?. Y esas  opciones  hay que considerarlas con premura porque el fin de la historia pudiera estar más cerca de lo que muchos piensan.

Sólo dos evidencias:

(...) “El proceso descapitalizador del sistema energético nacional (cubano) ha llegado a un punto crítico. No admite otra solución que la inversión de varios miles de millones de dólares  -que, por supuesto, el país no tiene- para la revitalización de la estructura de generación eléctrica en estado de coma. Esta podría ciertamente tener parciales mejorías en determinados momentos con parches correctivos, pero a más largo plazo serán incapaces de evitar un paulatino empeoramiento en la producción.
Otros desastres de la economía
Las preocupantes perspectivas del sistema energético nacional no son las únicas en la economía cubana. Por similares razones, están en vías de desaparición la industria azucarera y la ganadería vacuna. El estado de la vivienda es desastroso.
El 43 por ciento del fondo habitacional de la Isla califica con condiciones de malas y regulares, a totalmente inhabitables ,según informaciones oficiales que no aclaran si en este indicador están incluidas las edificaciones de villas miserias existentes en las periferias de las ciudades y pueblos cubanos. 

Estas fuentes señalan un déficit de un millon y  medio de viviendas. Un problema que para resolverse exigiría inversiones por un monto de $ 4 mil millones de dólares. En 2004, fueron construidas 15.352 unidades, cuando solamente los huracanes Charley e Iván dañaron 100.266, muchas de ellas irreparables (...)”. (Oscar Espinosa Chepe)

Cuba:  1959-2004   
                                                                       1959                              2004
Población, MM hab.                                     6                                   12
Ingreso per capita, $/año                           1200                             70
Teléfonos/100 hab.                                       25                                 3,5
Consumo eléctrico/hab, watts                   450                               75
Consumo calórico, cal/hab-dia                  2800                             1100
Consumo de carne, lb/hab-año                 76                                 12
Consumo de huevos, unid/hab-año        47                                 13
Consumo de pollo, lb/hab-año                  12                                 5
No. Automóviles/1000 hab                          38                                 10
No buses urbanos/hab                                1/300                            1/25000
No. Buses interurbanos/hab                       1/2000                          1/35000
No. Televisores/1000 hab                            66                                 15
No. estaciones de TV                                   7 (2 en color)                 2
No médicos/hab                                            1/950                            1/750
No. Odontólogos/hab                                  1/2100                          1/1850
Cabezas de ganado, MM                               6                                   1,8
Inflación, % anual                                           1,8                                25
No. Periódicos                                                 18                                    2 (no diarios)
No. Turistas/año                                         750.000                            1.200.000

Cosecha de azúcar, MM ton                          7                                   1,8
 (Manuel Cereijo)  Fuentes: ONU, FAO, UNESCO

¡Otra joya más!

Sabe usted ¿quién es la actual directora de Prevención del Delito del ministerio del Interior y Justicia?

Su nombre es Lilian Cristina Aya Ramírez.

Es socióloga y tiene un amplio prontuario como guerrillera y terrorista, militante del PRV-FALN-TERCER CAMINO, una rama del Sendero Luminoso peruano, de los años 1989- 1992, que se ubicó en Venezuela, cuando el SL fue desmantelado por Alberto Fujimori  (entonces Presidente del Perú), al capturar y hacer preso a su líder Abimael Guzmán.

Según consta en los archivos policiales venezolanos, la actual funcionaria fue delatada por uno de sus compañeros de guerrilla, porque tuvieron una grave diferencia personal. La DISIP allanó su casa el 20 de mayo de 1993 y le incautó armamento y equipo militar, que sería utilizado para reorganizar la unidad móvil de Tercer Camino en Venezuela. Entonces quedó a la orden de la División General de Investigaciones de ese Cuerpo de Inteligencia Policial.

Por el soborno pagado por terroristas afectos a SL  a funcionarios corruptos de la propia DISIP, escapó. Posteriormente no pudo ser detenida, aunque se tiene conocimiento que entró al Perú, con el nombre de Emilia Rojas  (alias Camarada Rufina). Apareció nuevamente en escena después de que Hugo Chávez asumió la Presidencia, pero entonces hubo “intervenciones” oficiales para que no fuera capturada.

Durante el gobierno de Hugo Chávez se ha desempeñado como asistente del
vice ministro de Seguridad Ciudadana, del Ministerio de Relaciones Interiores y Justicia; posteriormente fue empleada en CONATEL por su amigo y camarada Jesse Chacón.

Cuando Chacón  asume el Ministerio del Interior y Justicia, la nombra directora de Prevención del Delito con poder sobre la Disip, la Dim y la P.M..   Se sabe que ejerce influencia en los órganos del Poder Judicial y la Fiscalía General de la República…(FundaPresos - Investigación pagada por: Greengroup-Capítulo Venezuela 2005)


 
 

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Articulos que la Jinetera no publica. Porque sera?


7/27/05
Luis Ortega

Fidel está desafiando su propio destino

Confieso que cada vez más y más me cuesta trabajo escribir sobre Cuba.
No me ocurre lo mismo cuando tengo que referirme a los más de dos
millones de cubanos que se han puesto al servicio de Washington con la
esperanza de que la isla vuelva a caer en manos de sus antiguos dueños.
Es una conducta despreciable que no tiene justificación. Sin embargo, a
46 años y siete meses del triunfo de una revolución que ya debió haber
cumplido su misión y restablecido las libertades en el infeliz país, uno
tiene que preguntarse hasta cuando va a durar el martirio de ese pueblo.
Son muchos años. Es mucho tiempo. Dentro de poco más de tres años la
revolución va a cumplir medio siglo y Castro va a llegar a los 82 años
de edad, y la isla, su pueblo, se está cayendo a pedazos. Todas las
libertades han sido suprimidas. La verdadera obra de la revolución, la
que le ha dado gloria a Fidel Castro, ha sido haber logrado independizar
a la isla del dominio americano. Eso ya se ha logrado desde hace años.
Hace también muchos años que la revolución ya no tiene verdaderos
objetivos. No hay razones para justificar que ese pueblo infeliz viva
privado de todas las libertades y sin esperanzas. ¿Qué espera Castro
para restablecer en Cuba un régimen civilizado, racional, independiente
de Washington? ¿Acaso la amenaza del norte obliga a mantener la isla en
estado de alerta permanente? Ya esa amenaza no existe. ¿Es absolutamente
necesario inflar esa amenaza para mantener al país dolorosamente controlado?

Es obvio que la naturaleza del régimen de Castro tuvo algún sentido hace
muchos años para proteger a la isla de una invasión americana. Pero ya
es posible entender que esa amenaza no existe. La batalla de Cuba ha
sido ganada desde hace tiempo. Inclusive, la América Latina se ha
beneficiado con la guerra que libró Cuba contra el vecino que la
agobiaba. Después de la revolución cubana, la América Latina es otra.
Aquello que se hizo en diciembre de 1958, cuando los americanos le
dieron a Batista la orden de que se largara, ya no se puede hacer otra
vez en Cuba ni en ningún otro país de la región. Es decir, ha quedado
consolidada la independencia de Cuba, pero se ha mantenido un régimen
autoritario, represivo, so pretexto de lograr lo que ya se ha obtenido,
de hecho.

Yo me pregunto ¿por qué Castro, que tiene un poder absoluto, en un
régimen unipersonal, no dedica los tres años y medio que lo quedan a
Cuba para llegar al doloroso cincuentenario, a restablecer todas las
libertades públicas? Yo creo que el pueblo de Cuba tiene un afecto muy
especial por la persona de Castro y confía en él. Pero ese afecto podría
irse esfumando a medida que se vea que el gobierno dictatorial, que tuvo
razón de ser hace mucho años, se va sobreviviendo a sí mismo y se
convierte en un fantasma amenazador.

La oposición al régimen no tiene ninguna importancia. No existe una
oposición real sino un aparato financiado por Washington. Tan pronto se
empiecen a restablecer las libertades en Cuba, la oposición de factura
americana quedará colgando en el vacío. Yo entiendo que si Fidel logró
liberar a Cuba de la dominación americana y, de paso, influyó en el
renacimiento de una América Latina independiente del vecino del norte,
podría, al final de su vida, dar el salto hacia una Cuba libre e
independiente sin las ataduras de una dictadura que se ha sobrevivido a
sí misma. Si trata de prolongar, más allá del año del cincuentenario que
se aproxima, su control absoluto sobre un pueblo que lleva ya 46 años y
medio viviendo bajo una férrea dictadura, estará invitando al desastre.

Quiero aclarar que yo no estoy al servicio de nadie. Nunca lo he estado.
Tal vez me queda poca vida. Desde 1994, cuando regresé a Cuba de vista,
después de más de 40 años de destierro, empecé a recorrer la isla, de un
extremo al otro. Yo he hablado con miles de cubanos en cada viaje. Tengo
una visión clara de la situación cubana. Fidel, al prolongar su
dictadura, está desafiando al destino.


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Published on Monday, August 1, 2005 by CommonDreams.org Trouble in the
Land of the Free by John Atcheson

Well, it's official; there's trouble right here in the land of the free.

Mr. Bush can not only use taxpayer's money to set up Soviet-Style
propaganda events, but he can have US citizens kicked out of these
public meetings by strong-armed stooges impersonating Secret Service
Agents. That, at least, was the conclusion last week by the US Justice
Department Attorney who said there was not enough evidence to prosecute
an unnamed man who kicked three people out of one of Mr. Bush's "town
hall" meetings in Denver this past March. The White House, by the way,
refuses to release the mystery thug's name.

And here in the good old USA no one seems to give a damn.

Hundreds of billions of dollars and nearly two thousand American dead to
bring democracy to Iraq, but no need to go overboard with that freedom
stuff here at home, thank you.

Apparently, after years of government funded "Mission Accomplished,"
propaganda events, government-produced fake news casts,
government-funded journalists/shills, and a phoney reporter planted into
the White House press corps, we're just fresh out of outrage.

A series of fake town hall meetings in which First Amendment Rights are
violated just isn't the stuff of headlines anymore.

So now, the Bush machine routinely sets up stages with fake props and
Soviet-style backdrops, invites only registered Republicans; excludes
anyone who might – just possibly might – not be an ardent supporter;
pre-screens the questions; then hires goons to patrol the audience and
strong-arm and illegally arrest anyone who doesn't look ... well ...
right (as in Right wing), trampling the First Amendment in the process.
These taxpayer-supported campaign events they call a town meeting.

The only thing missing is the Brown Shirts.

But here in the land of the free, nary a peep of protest is heard, nary
a discouraging word is printed or uttered by the Democrats or the press.

For the last four years, the Democrats have been doing their best
deer-in-the-headlights imitation, and the press has been chasing various
White House wag-the-dog stories or faux terrorist alerts that just seem
to crop up when the spotlight focuses on their lies, deceptions, or
their gross incompetence -- or when an election is in the offing. In
short, the American press has been either fooled or intimidated, and the
Democrats have been dazed and confused.

If you want to see democracy in action these days, you've got to look to
Europe.

Recently, British MP George Galloway road into town and gave Norm
Coleman and his fellow neoconservative propagandists a public spanking.
Coleman and the rest of the right wing whackos have had such and easy
time manipulating the press and intimidating Democrats for the past four
years they must have felt like they'd been mugged.

But Mr. Galloway showed the Democrats how to confront demagoguery –
with a strong dose of the truth. No head down, poll driven spins, or
weak-kneed attempts to appeal to both sides. No deer-in-the-headlights
stares, or weeks of Bob Shrumm inspired contemplation. He called a liar
a liar and he set the record straight in plain, but eloquent language.
Then he called a spade a spade – the UN food for oil "scandal" has
always been a smokescreen, an attempt to besmirch Kofi Anan and the UN
for no other reason than that neocons hate the UN. He pointed out that
our own national contribution to sleaze, corruption, mismanagement and
sheer greed in Iraq dwarfs anything the UN has done.

Hopefully, the Democrats were taking notes.

Mr. Galloway isn't the only European showing how a free people act.

For example, when the White House tried to set up one of their
pre-scripted propaganda events in Germany this past February the Germans
would have none of it.

A "town hall" meeting with the German people in the town of Mainz was
supposed to be the PR highlight of the President's February trip. The
White House had spent a week talking it up, but when the Germans –a
people who know a bit about the corrosive effects of propaganda –
refused to allow Bush's handlers to review and screen all questions in
advance, the White House quietly dropped the event, according to
Spiegel.

Mr. Bush and the American people got another lesson in how a free people
act on his recent trip to Europe in May to celebrate the defeat of the
Nazis. A group of students in the Netherlands showed just how gloriously
cantankerous a free people can be. At a meeting near Maastricht, Mr.
Bush tried flying without a net, in an unscripted question and answer
session with the Dutch youth. After a half hour of tough questions,
worried White House aids cleared the room of reporters before allowing
the session to continue. No transcript of the remaining questions was
kept, no summary was released.

And it took an Irish journalist to show our spin-dried press how a real
free press acts. In July of last year, Irish TV journalist Carole
Coleman was granted an interview with George Bush just prior to his trip
to Ireland and the US-European Summit meeting. There in the White House
map room, Ms. Coleman did the unthinkable: she asked tough follow-up
questions when Mr. Bush gave canned non-responses. She had the
unmitigated gall to point out that "... the world has become a more
dangerous place because you have taken the focus off al Qaeda and
diverted [it to] Iraq," and when Mr. Bush raised the specter of WMDs she
did what no American journalist has seemed able or willing to do – she
interrupted him to point out there were no WMDs found in Iraq.

Imagine the nerve of this woman, expecting the leader of the free world
to answer tough questions, stick to facts not fantasy, and to be
accountable for his actions. Well, of course, when the interview was
over, an outraged White House lodged a formal complaint with the Irish
Embassy. Now, as Molly Ivins likes to say, let's pause a moment and wrap
our minds around this – the leader of the free world lodged an
official complaint with the Irish Embassy because ... one of their
journalists asked him some tough questions, expected him to respond, and
applied a standard of factual accuracy to his answers.

Apparently the White House believes this free press stuff is fine in
theory, as long as it's not practiced.

Here again, contrast this with our press, who act like sheep on prozac
when given the opportunity to question the President.

There is trouble here in the land of the free. It starts with a cowed
opposition party that's forgotten that honesty and integrity are moral
values, but spinning, poll watching and pandering aren't.

It extends to a press that's forgotten that the First Amendment Rights
they were given come with a codicil – the requirement to relentlessly
pursue the truth, and a commitment to tell it.

And it ends with a public content to be fed a steady diet of J-Lo/Jacko
non-news, wag-the-dog wedge issues, and infotainment talk shows in lieu
of the truth.

But Mr.Galloway and his European friends may have shown us that politics
doesn't have to be a boring and predictable Kabuki dance – practiced
with integrity on all sides, it's more engaging than the runaway bride
or the latest missing damsel (whites, only please) in distress.

John Atcheson can be reached at atc...@comcast.net


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The New York Times
August 7, 2005
Sprinkling Holy Water on 'The Da Vinci Code'
By SHARON WAXMAN

LOS ANGELES

ON the face of it, Hollywood projects don't get much simpler than "The
Da Vinci Code," a movie being shot in Europe this summer, based on the
international publishing phenomenon by Dan Brown.

All the ingredients are there: a blockbuster book with 36 million copies
in print, an Academy Award-winning team in the writer Akiva Goldsman and
the director Ron Howard (for "A Beautiful Mind"), and an Oscar
perennial, Tom Hanks, in the lead, as the Harvard professor Robert
Langdon. Sony Pictures, the studio behind the film, would seem well on
its way to that rarest of successes: an adult-oriented franchise with a
built-in audience and plenty of potential for sequels.

But "Da Vinci," set for release in May, is shaping up as one of the
movie world's more complicated exercises - so much so that Sony has
dropped a scrim of secrecy over the affair, refusing to discuss anything
but the barest details. The script has been closely controlled.
Outsiders have been banned from the set. And those associated with the
film have had to sign confidentiality agreements.

"There isn't a hidden agenda, there isn't any secrecy, it's just because
it's so well known," said Geoffrey Ammer, Sony's president of worldwide
marketing, explaining the low profile. "They've got a job to do to make
the movie. It was easier for everybody to just go make the movie."

But executives and others connected with the project acknowledge that
their silence is also a measure of concern about the potentially
incendiary nature of the subject matter. The book, which is fiction,
takes aim at central Christian dogma, claiming that Jesus had a child
with Mary Magdalene, who was meant to be his true heir. It alleges an
enormous coverup by the Roman Catholic Church, which, according to the
book, usurped Mary's place in favor of a male-oriented hierarchy that
has suppressed what Mr. Brown calls the "sacred feminine."

Even before production began, the studio and the producers Brian Grazer
and John Calley received letters from groups like the Catholic League
and Opus Dei expressing concern.

The Catholic League asked that Mr. Howard include a disclaimer
acknowledging that the movie is fiction. Opus Dei, a conservative
Catholic group, was particularly worried about its own depiction,
because it is a central villain in the book. "The novel portrays Opus
Dei in a completely inaccurate way; if the movie does the same thing
it's something we'd be concerned about," Brian Finnerty, a spokesman for
the group, said.

Studio officials have consulted with Catholic and other Christian
specialists on how they might alter the plot of the novel to avoid
offending the devout. In doing so, the studio has been asked to consider
such measures as making the central premise - that Jesus had a child
with Mary Magdalene - more ambiguous, and removing the name of Opus Dei.

"The question I was asked was, 'Can you give them some things they can
do to change it, to make it not offensive to the Christian audience?' "
said Barbara Nicolosi, executive director of Act One, an organization
that coaches Christians on making it in Hollywood. She said she was
approached by Jonathan Bock, a marketing expert hired by Sony for his
knowledge of Christian sensibilities, and included in the discussions
Amy Welborn, who has published a refutation of "The Da Vinci Code"
titled "De-Coding Da Vinci."

"We came up with three things," Ms. Nicolosi said: the more ambiguous
approach to the central premise, the removal of Opus Dei and amending
errors in the book's description of religious elements in art.

Ms. Welborn said, "If the script took those very strong assertions that
Brown makes, and softened them, made them more theoretical rather than
bald statements of fact, that might do something."

Mr. Bock declined to comment about his involvement with the picture.

Whether the screenwriter, Mr. Goldsman, has made any of those changes is
uncertain, though the studio has publicly hinted that the film is a
thriller that will play down religious themes.

But changing the plot of a beloved novel has its own hazards and risks
alienating the movie's built-in fan base - those millions of people
worldwide who devoured the book and made it, some claim, the most
successful book in history after the Bible. (Mr. Brown's agent, Heidi
Lange, said 36 million copies of "The Da Vinci Code" were in print.)

"There's no way you can take out the central point of the novel, that
Jesus married Mary Magdalene and the Catholic Church has done everything
in its power, including murdering millions of people, to cover it up,"
said Carl E. Olson, co-author of "The Da Vinci Hoax," a book refuting
the "The Da Vinci Code." He predicted that many devout people would be
offended "unless they make a movie that bears a pale resemblance to the
book, in which case they'd have a lot of irritated fans."

Mr. Ammer, Sony's marketing president, said the studio would remain true
to its source. "My biggest concern is that we make a movie that is
entertaining, and that follows as close to the book as possible," he
said. "It's not about any particular group, it's about the mass appeal
of the book. When you read a good book, you say, 'I hope they don't ruin
the movie.' "

Mr. Calley, who was a Sony chairman before becoming a producer, said he
considered the film "conservatively anti-Catholic," as opposed to
destructively so. "Look at the book," he continued. "Yes, there are
clerics that ding it, but there are clerics that are supportive."

Like the novel, Mr. Calley said, the movie can be a tool for discussing
the origins of religion, even challenging its basic assumptions, which
he said is a good thing. "In our society, most societies, we grow up
with our religion given to us by our parents," he said. "We're never
truly oriented into the history of it, the subtlety of it. The amazing
thing about this book is it's provocative: Is it all true? Isn't it
true? As a history book it's extraordinary. As an exploration of the
evolution of a particular religion, it's extraordinary."

Mr. Calley was just exiting as chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment
when he made the deal to buy the rights to "The Da Vinci Code" in June
2003. He relied on a longstanding friendship with Michael Rudell, Mr.
Brown's lawyer, to corner the rights by offering a pay package that
could exceed $5 million once the movie is released, according to people
involved.

And though the book is labeled as fiction, Mr. Brown has written and
said in interviews that the tale is based on extensive research and
historical fact, including a 1982 nonfiction book, "Holy Blood, Holy
Grail" by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln, which Mr.
Brown cites as a source.

Many readers are convinced that "The Da Vinci Code" is largely true,
though cloaked in fiction. Some fans make pilgrimages to sites mentioned
in the book, including the Louvre and the Chāteau de Villette in France
and Westminster Abbey in Britain. The movie production has been filming
on location in the Louvre and the chateau, but Westminster Abbey
declined the producers' request to shoot there, calling the book
"theologically unsound."

Among those who take Mr. Brown's revelations seriously is Olivia Hsu
Decker, a real estate agent who owns the Chāteau de Villette and lived
there during the shoot in June and July. "This book revealed the truth
that the Catholics have been hiding for thousands of years," she said in
a telephone interview. "The book is fiction, but it's based on truth."

Ms. Decker added, "The book kind of explains to the world how the
Catholic Church demonized women such as Mary Magdalene, and also have
killed millions of women during the Crusades."

A half-dozen books published in the last two years rebut that very
notion, and it is just this attitude that has fueled concern not only
among Catholics, but Christian activists of other denominations as well.

"A lot of people are getting their view of Christianity and the Bible
from the book," said Alex McFarland, a speaker and writer for Focus on
the Family, an evangelical group. He said the message of the book "broke
my heart."

In searching for a middle road through this thicket of competing
agendas, Sony has opted to say nothing, at least for the moment. And
there are signs that the studio has not ruled out attracting religious
moviegoers, including those who made an international sensation last
year of Mel Gibson's film, "The Passion of the Christ."

"The phrase I heard used several times was 'Passion dollars'; they want
to try to get 'The Passion' dollars if they can," said Ms. Nicolosi,
referring to her conversations about the film. "They're wrong," she
added. "It's sacrilegious, irreligious. They're thinking they can ride
the 'Passion' wave with this. And I said, 'Are you kidding me?' "


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Parece ser que la caca de pollo le tiene miedo a otras opiniones. Yo pienso
que a Jesús le hubiese gustado ver las dos películas. El libro es similar a
Don Quijote de Saavedra. Dice verdades con ficciones. Según el libro, 2000
años atrás, un hombre judío de 33 años de edad, sino estaba casado algo
estaba malo con el. Para la iglesia es mejor aceptar que Jesús con su
esposa dejaron descendientes y no aceptar que Jesús era homosexual. Es
menos dañino para los creyentes, pienso.

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> in the book, including the Louvre and the Château de Villette in France

> and Westminster Abbey in Britain. The movie production has been filming on
> location in the Louvre and the chateau, but Westminster Abbey declined the
> producers' request to shoot there, calling the book "theologically
> unsound."
>
> Among those who take Mr. Brown's revelations seriously is Olivia Hsu

> Decker, a real estate agent who owns the Château de Villette and lived

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Amate wrote:

> Parece ser que la caca de pollo le tiene miedo a otras opiniones.

.... le tiene miedo a que su castillo de arena se desborone
mas rapido de lo que va.

El asunto no es si esto o lo otro es cierto, sino lo mismo
que con "harry potter": la supersticion "catolica" se siente
amenazada por la supersticion ficcional.

Y ESO da mucho que pensar.

Con el codigo es lo mismo, solo que en otro plano: la mitologia
"catolica" se siente amenazada por una ficcional, aunque con
ciertas bases historicas que hacen suponer que pudo ser asi.

En todo caso: cuando uno sabe que la "santa iglesia catolica"
es la secta que sobrevivio porque logro extinguir (asesinar
o dejar asesinar) a las otras sectas que estaban en concurrencia
por la "verdadera linea", ya uno mira el "codigo" con cierta
simpatia, pues los villanos lo son, tanto historica- como
ficcionalmente.

Un dato increible es que la secta los "catolicos" mataron entre
si a mas personas que los romanos en sus circos.... y todo ello
por apoderarse de la "verdad" que el convenia a la "nomenclatura"
de cada secta....

> (...) Según el libro, 2000

> años atrás, un hombre judío de 33 años de edad, sino estaba casado algo
> estaba malo con el.

dice eso?.... lo que si dice el "nuevo testamento" es que al
llevar apresado a jesus los seguia un joven envuelto en una
sabana (!), y al alguien señalarlo, este dejo caer la sabana
y salio corriendo desnudo (!).... Es bastante seguro que este
era "el discipulo que mas amo jesus", solo que.... que hacia
encueros envuelto en una sabana?....

> Para la iglesia es mejor aceptar que Jesús con su
> esposa dejaron descendientes y no aceptar que Jesús era homosexual. Es
> menos dañino para los creyentes, pienso.

El asunto es irrelevante, pues entonces tendrian que aceptar
que maria no era "virgen" nada, y muchas otras mentiritas que
sirven hasta hoy para reprimer el instinto sexual de los
"feligreses", pues asi los mantienen dociles....


Amate

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Saludos

No tengo el libro en español, pero aqui esta en ingles.

Yo no creo que la iglesia se deba de preocuparse tanto por perder el control
sobre los creyentes. Hay gente quienes han decidido no ver la verdad, y así
prefieren morir, engañados por la iglesia y el gobierno. Si Dios no es
suficiente para causar temor, nos dicen que ya pronto viene un meteoro, que
Osama esta vivo, que las ideas del Che están vivas, que Chávez, que Fidel.

Yo digo que la iglesia y los bushits tienen que tomar las cosas con calma.
El cambio es un proceso que lleva muchos años y como vos decis el castillo
se desborona, pero todavía no.

Sophie weighed the information. "I'll admit, the hidden M's are intruguing,
although I assume nobody is claiming they are proof of Jesus' marriage to
Magdalene."

"No, no," Teabing said, going to a nearby table of books. "As I said
earlier, the marriage of Jesus and Mary Magdalene is part of the historical
record." He began pawing through his book collection. "Moreover, Jesus as
a married man makes infinitely more sense than our standard biblical view of
Jesus as a bachelor."

"Why?" Sophie asked.

"Because Jesus was a Jew," Langdon said, taking over while Teabing searched
for his book, "and the social decorum during that time virtually forbid a
Jewish man to be unmarried. According to Jewish custom, celibacy was
condemned, and the obligation for a Jewish father was to find a suitable
wife for his son. If Jesus were not married, at least one of the Bible's
gospel would have mentioned it and offered some explanation for His
unnatural state of bachelorhood." (Brown 245)

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August 8, 2005

Trouble in Hollywood: Fundamentalists Want to Change Plot of The Da
Vinci Code Film

by Dr. Teresa Whitehurst

When I read in the New York Times that Ron Howard "has heard from
concerned Christians as he turns 'The Da Vinci Code' into a film", I
could smell the censorship (oops, "concern") brewing. Ready for The
Passion of the Christ, Part 2?

When The Passion of the Christ received negative comments in
post-production, Mel Gibson belatedly added a few scenes acknowledging
that Jesus did in fact say and do a few notable things before dying.
However, Gibson did not remove several scenes that made many Jewish
people and sympathetic Christians uncomfortable. Those images remained
in the film despite worries that they could increase hostility and blame
regarding the Jews of Jesus’ time, and of ours. He refused to budge on
those scenes—but then again, the political pressure wasn’t nearly as
great as that which is lodged in the nooks and crannies of the White
House.

What’s different about the current tempest regarding The Da Vinci Code
is that fundamentalists and far-right conservatives would like to alter
the core plot of the book—the central story—because it opens up
possibilities for us to ponder. It doesn’t stick by the party line or
church dogma, and that’s why some people want to disembowel The Da
Vinci Code of its most intriguing ideas. Christians are not supposed to
think for ourselves in this Bushian world where "faith-based" lobbying
groups rule. (Oh, and speaking of codes: "faith" is code for
"fundamentalist".)

Fundamentalist-Based Initiatives and Studio Waffling

Is it just me, or does the following raise some red flags reminiscent of
the McCarthy period?

"Studio officials have consulted with Catholic and other Christian
specialists on how they might alter the plot of the novel to avoid
offending the devout. In doing so, the studio has been asked to consider
such measures as making the central premise - that Jesus had a child
with Mary Magdalene - more ambiguous, and removing the name of Opus

Dei." (emphasis added)

The question I was asked was, 'Can you give them some things they
can do to change it, to make it not offensive to the Christian
audience?' " said Barbara Nicolosi, executive director of Act One, an
organization that coaches Christians on making it in Hollywood. She said
she was approached by Jonathan Bock, a marketing expert hired by Sony
for his knowledge of Christian sensibilities, and included in the
discussions Amy Welborn, who has published a refutation of "The Da Vinci
Code" titled "De-Coding Da Vinci."

"We came up with three things," Ms. Nicolosi said: the more
ambiguous approach to the central premise, the removal of Opus Dei and
amending errors in the book's description of religious elements in art.
Ms. Welborn said, "If the script took those very strong assertions that
Brown makes, and softened them, made them more theoretical rather than
bald statements of fact, that might do something." Mr. Bock declined to

comment about his involvement with the picture." (emphasis added)

And here is the truly chilling part, you know, the part where
acquiescence begins and creative integrity ends:

"Whether the screenwriter, Mr. Goldsman, has made any of those
changes is uncertain, though the studio has publicly hinted that the

film is a thriller that will play down religious themes." (emphasis
added)

We are of many faiths here in the US, but we are all American. And the
last time I checked, being American means that we get to read the books
we want to read and watch the films we want to watch. We don’t have to
check with Opus Dei or Focus on the Family or Concerned Women for
America before we check out a library book.

Our own "Christian" president—who worships a "Christ" far more
offensive than anything in The Da Vinci Code, a new revised "Jesus" who
advocates pre-emptive war and smiles upon torture—stresses again and
again that we must protect our "liberties" and "freedoms". Well here’s
a perfect opportunity to test the system: Will the film version of The
Da Vinci Code shrivel into a pale version of the book under the
withering stare of religious extremists, or will censorship and
fundamentalist-based pressure be rebuffed?

Will fundamentalism tighten its grip on Hollywood, as it did many years
ago?

To Ron Howard, I would like to say that I urge you not to bow to
pressure. If they put the screws on you to tiptoe around the author’s
vision, let it be known that a censored, religiously correct or
otherwise gutted film would be of no interest to me or to anyone I know.
And it would certainly not be worthy of your creative talents.
Some principles are worth fighting for. And some things are worth
walking away from.

* * *

Dr. Teresa Whitehurst is a clinical psychologist, author of Jesus on
Parenting: 10 Essential Principles That Will Transform Your Family
(2004) and coauthor of The Nonviolent Christian Parent (2004). She
offers parenting workshops, holds discussion groups on Nonviolent
Christianity, and writes the column, "Democracy, Faith and Values:
Because You Shouldn’t Have to Choose Just One" as seen on her website.


TORREBLANCA®

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Aug 8, 2005, 3:15:32 PM8/8/05
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Super User For Ever ha escrito:

> http://www.buzzflash.com/whitehurst/05/08/whi05006.html
>
> August 8, 2005
>
> Trouble in Hollywood: Fundamentalists Want to Change Plot of The Da
> Vinci Code Film
>
> by Dr. Teresa Whitehurst
>

mas o menos como la que tú quieres vender de fidel en cuba, verdad
abuelito ? ....

Super User For Ever

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Aug 8, 2005, 3:25:17 PM8/8/05
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TORREBLANCA® wrote:

Bueno, fidel es un "tirano sangriento y deplorable", mientras
que la bushi tu comadre....

TODO CLARO?!....


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