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s63...@uottawa.ca

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Feb 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/23/00
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George Frajkor <gfra...@CCS.CARLETON.CA> wrote:
: This kind of message has no place on this list[...]

Why? Is sex not Slovak? Clearly no one believes the "scholarliness"
front of this listserv especially after the ListCreator Himself
welcomes topics that are not Slovak, especially those that shed Czechs,
Hungarians, Czechoslovaks and other enemies of "Real" Slovaks in an
unfavouring light...

Otto Mann

Roman Kanala

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Feb 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/24/00
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Otto Mann <s63...@uottawa.ca> wondering :

> Butch Frajkor <gfra...@CCS.CARLETON.CA> wrote:
>
> : This kind of message has no place on this list. Try
> : soc.culture.czecho-slovakia.


>
> Why? Is sex not Slovak? Clearly no one believes the "scholarliness"
> front of this listserv especially after the ListCreator Himself
> welcomes topics that are not Slovak, especially those that shed Czechs,
> Hungarians, Czechoslovaks and other enemies of "Real" Slovaks in an
> unfavouring light...

Why ? For two reasons:
1. because it did not come from Butch or a similar "REAL Slovak" and
2. because it is not concerning Butch and his shortage of
young students for oral sex at Carleton University, as he
(the list "owner" ! ) publicly complained on his scholarly
oriented mailing list about Slovakia and Slovaks...

The Freudian anti-Czech slip is again present. Poor Butch.
He is no more even laughable.

Roman Kanala

Roman Kanala

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Feb 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/24/00
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Miki Hermann <Miki.H...@loria.fr> wrote in response to Butch Frajkor:

> In article <2000022317...@rideau.YP.nobel>, gfra...@CCS.CARLETON.CA (George Frajkor) writes:
>
> |> This kind of message has no place on this list. Try
> |> soc.culture.czecho-slovakia.
>

> WHY?
>
> Prostitutes are extremely hard working girls. Or do you mean that Bratislava is
> NOT FOR REAL SLOVAKS like you?
>
> By the way, did you have sex with a prostitute?

... or only with students at Carleton, as they are cheaper ?

Roman Kanala

Frank

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Feb 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/24/00
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I see Kanal, you are also a pimp. I am not surprised - man of your
"qualities".
Frank
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JS

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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No Frank , Kanal is "auslander" and waiter,

JS

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JS

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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Kanala , did you get a lot of "trinkgelds" from stupid nazi - Schweizer who
let Jews to be killed in Auschwitz?

JS

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JS

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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Kanale, chodi k Vam do krcmy vela prostitutok?

JS

Roman Kanala <kan...@iprolink.ch> wrote in article

<38B4DF92...@iprolink.ch>...


>
>
> Otto Mann <s63...@uottawa.ca> wondering :
>
> > Butch Frajkor <gfra...@CCS.CARLETON.CA> wrote:
> >

> > : This kind of message has no place on this list. Try
> > : soc.culture.czecho-slovakia.
> >

JS

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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Cital som nedavno v Times, ze najviac kuriev je v Prahe. Je to pravda
Otiku?

JS

s63...@uottawa.ca wrote in article <891muh$nh2$1...@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>...
> George Frajkor <gfra...@CCS.CARLETON.CA> wrote:
> : This kind of message has no place on this list[...]


>
> Why? Is sex not Slovak? Clearly no one believes the "scholarliness"
> front of this listserv especially after the ListCreator Himself
> welcomes topics that are not Slovak, especially those that shed Czechs,
> Hungarians, Czechoslovaks and other enemies of "Real" Slovaks in an
> unfavouring light...
>

> Otto Mann
>

JS

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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Poumyval si krcmu dobre Kanal? Aby Ti Schweiz Ubermensch nepleskol rano po
papuly! Ako mozes zit v Nazi Schweiz Kanal?

JS

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Geo

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Jestli hledate Kanal, doporucuju se obratit na Borovicku.....Nemuzete zvolit
lepe...
Geo
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s63...@uottawa.ca

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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Jim Dubelko <jdbl...@aol.com> wrote:

: Second,
:>prostitutes
:>are hard-working girls performing a very useful job, much more useful then
:>journalists like you who bend the facts according to their propaganda.

: How can you compare prostitutes to journalists!?! The problem with prostitutes
: is that they are an unlicensed profession which, in large part because they
: have no licensing standards or educational requirements, spreads filth and
: disease throughout society.

Regulations exist to stifle business. Why do two consenting adults need
a license? A license for what? Do you ask the government for permission
to use the toilet?

Otto Mann

Miki Hermann

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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jdbl...@aol.com (Jim Dubelko) writes:


> How can you compare prostitutes to journalists!?!

How can YOU compare journalists to prostitutes? The prostitutes could
get offended.

> The problem with prostitutes
> is that they are an unlicensed profession which, in large part because they
> have no licensing standards or educational requirements, spreads filth and
> disease throughout society.

I really do not understand. Why do a prostitute needs a license for
prostitution, or some educational requirements? Second, prostitutes
are hard-working girls, that would never have unprotected sex with a
customer. Do not confound them with hooking junkies, that accept it,
especially when they are already VIH-positive. You have a far better
chance to get a disease from unprotected sex with a one-night stand
that you found in a night club, than with a prostitute.

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like poetry and philosophy,
but the body has all the fun.

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JS

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Feb 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/29/00
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License is required to pay taxes .

JS

s63...@uottawa.ca wrote in article
<89drmv$114i$1...@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>...


> Jim Dubelko <jdbl...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> : Second,
> :>prostitutes
> :>are hard-working girls performing a very useful job, much more useful
then
> :>journalists like you who bend the facts according to their propaganda.
>

> : How can you compare prostitutes to journalists!?! The problem with


prostitutes
> : is that they are an unlicensed profession which, in large part because
they
> : have no licensing standards or educational requirements, spreads filth
and
> : disease throughout society.
>

s63...@uottawa.ca

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Feb 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/29/00
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Jim Dubelko <jdbl...@aol.com> wrote:
:>Regulations exist to stifle business.

: No, regulations exist to "regulate" business. "Stifles" exist to stifle
: business.

Other than to perpetuate the above tautology, in a free society,
regulations exist to justify the existence of the regulatory
government agency by proposing further controls (never less) and
are thus clear violations of freedom of association...

:>Why do two consenting adults need
:>a license?

: Ever hear of a marriage license?

Do you intend on further deflections or are you going to answer
the questions yourself?

Otto Mann

s63...@uottawa.ca

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Feb 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/29/00
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In bit.listserv.slovak-l JS <de...@home.com> wrote:
: License is required to pay taxes .

The government will find ways to extort your earnings without a
license: I do not have a license from the government to earn my
salary, but the government will still take it from me...

Otto Mann

: s63...@uottawa.ca wrote in article


: <89drmv$114i$1...@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>...
:> Jim Dubelko <jdbl...@aol.com> wrote:
:>
:> : Second,
:> :>prostitutes
:> :>are hard-working girls performing a very useful job, much more useful
: then
:> :>journalists like you who bend the facts according to their propaganda.
:>
:> : How can you compare prostitutes to journalists!?! The problem with
: prostitutes
:> : is that they are an unlicensed profession which, in large part because
: they
:> : have no licensing standards or educational requirements, spreads filth
: and
:> : disease throughout society.

:>
:> Regulations exist to stifle business. Why do two consenting adults need
:> a license? A license for what? Do you ask the government for permission

:>

firefly

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Mar 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/1/00
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JS

They are not a prostitute, they are" Social Workers
".The same is for the drug dealers, they are not a drug dealers, they are
"Street Pharmacist!!!!

JS

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Mar 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/1/00
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You have your pay stub, they do not. Kapis?

JS

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Miki Hermann

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"firefly" <hvi...@worldnet.att.net> writes:


> to som nevedel ze je tolko Slovakov v Prahe, dufam ze maju aj svoju
> Automiu.Jednou jsem cetl ze Ceske mami posilali svoje devcata na Slovensko
> si videlat, ze pri slovaci jsou prachati.


Oh boy, write in English or French, since your Slovak is just a bad joke.


You know, they are in the Czech republic, since the independent Slovak
republic is nothing for, especially when it was created to satisfy
psychologically and financially challenged (I am politically correct,
you see) slovak "very-much-would-like-to-be" politicians.

Miki Hermann

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jdbl...@aol.com (Jim Dubelko) writes:


> Government should only license an activity if it poses a danger to
> the public health, safety or welfare.


Prostitution is a hard job, but very useful for the society. From the
community point of vue, prostitutes are much more useful than priests
or journalists.

JS

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What about "Akademics". I hope that you are not serious Miki.

JS

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s63...@uottawa.ca

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Jim Dubelko <jdbl...@aol.com> wrote:
:>>Why do two consenting adults need
:>:>a license?
:>
:>: Ever hear of a marriage license?

:>
:>Do you intend on further deflections or are you going

: Government should only license an activity if it poses a danger to the public
: health, safety or welfare. Is that enough of an answer for you?

In fact no, which is surprising, given your alleged profession:

Any activity you can think of, including eating, drinking, and exercise
can pose "a danger to the public health, safety or welfare". It is
this principle that degenerates into dictatorship of the majority where,
even if one is not violating individual rights (which are properly
"unalienable"), for example, in activities involving two consenting
adults (where no one's individual rights have been violated), no one is
immune from the wrath of the majority (i.e. a system of slavery, fascism,
socialism, or communism) where anything can be construed as a danger
(like swimming, because you could drown)...

Otto Mann

s63...@uottawa.ca

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Mar 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/1/00
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In bit.listserv.slovak-l JS <de...@home.com> wrote:
: You have your pay stub, they do not[...]

Unfortunately, by the time I read my pay stub telling me the
government has extorted my money, the money's gone. As for a
license to pay taxes? no thanks. Some other sucker can buy one...

Otto Mann

: s63...@uottawa.ca wrote in article <89go9l$qrk$3...@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>...


:> In bit.listserv.slovak-l JS <de...@home.com> wrote:
:> : License is required to pay taxes .
:>
:> The government will find ways to extort your earnings without a
:> license: I do not have a license from the government to earn my
:> salary, but the government will still take it from me...

:>
:> : s63...@uottawa.ca wrote in article

s63...@uottawa.ca

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Mar 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/2/00
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Jim Dubelko <jdbl...@aol.com> wrote:
:> Government should only license an activity if it poses a danger to the

:>public
:>: health, safety or welfare. Is that enough of an answer for you?
:>
:>In fact no, which is surprising, given your alleged profession:
:>
:>Any activity you can think of, including eating, drinking, and exercise
:>can pose "a danger to the public health, safety or welfare". It is
:>this principle that degenerates into dictatorship of the majority where,
:>even if one is not violating individual rights (which are properly
:>"unalienable"), for example, in activities involving two consenting
:>adults (where no one's individual rights have been violated), no one is
:>immune from the wrath of the majority (i.e. a system of slavery, fascism,
:>socialism, or communism) where anything can be construed as a danger
:>(like swimming, because you could drown)...

: Let's not let the government interfere with any consensual relationships.

I agree.

: So what if the doctor I go to doesn't have a license from the State.
: He did a good job healing my neighbor's bunions, so I'll take a
: chance with him. After all, that risk is better than the risk of
: government regulation.

Exactly. If two people willingly enter into an association, they
have no need for government intervention (why would they? they
both enter it willingly). Any government intervention into a
consentual arrangement is a violation of the freedom of association
(you may be familiar with that right in the USA)...

: And, hey, why should the government license motor vehicle drivers?
: If I'm big enough to see over the wheel, I'm big enough
: to take to the open roads. Again, the risk of unlicensed drivers causing
: injury certainly pales in comparison with the risks of government regulation of
: this activity too.

It is not because on one occasion I am able to drive around the block
and park my car without killing anyone and being watched by a
"regulator" who, incidentally, has no incentive to ensure that I am
in fact a competent driver (how that can be determined on one
occasion anyway has me baffled), that I am a safe driver...

: If we're to live in a complex
: modern-day society, none of us--I repeat none of us, can survive if we can't
: rely most of the time upon regulations which the government promulgates. The
: great, great majority of these regulations do in fact promote the health,
: safety and welfare of society. None of us is smart enough to survive by
: "trusting to our instincts" or relying upon "word of mouth" or trying to
: educate ourselves so that we know more about a subject than the person we're
: going to rely upon.

It is already apparent from your posting that you believe others to
be smarter than yourself...

: ....it is just plain stupid.

Thank you for your closing argument. Is this the way you convince
the jury?

Otto Mann

DZEDZINA

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Mar 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/9/00
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as a slovak I feel a shame, reading BAD slovak, please speak english.....

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