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Anti-DabianchenVirus

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Mar 26, 2011, 5:03:58 AM3/26/11
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On 3月25日, 下午7时10分, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Salvation is only Sealing the Mark on our forehead.
>
> In Bible refer Revelation regarding the 144,000 Jews.
> So you Christians are 2nd class ?
>

What does your holier-than-thou internet preacher Frankie Lee say
about this?

asdf asdf

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Mar 26, 2011, 9:16:17 AM3/26/11
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On Mar 26, 5:03 pm, Anti-DabianchenVirus <wuso...@rocketmail.com>
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His conduct and words show he is the inferior class.

Wusong

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Mar 26, 2011, 12:27:16 PM3/26/11
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That figures, because he has been kissing the asses of Americans all
the time.

Dave U. Random

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Mar 26, 2011, 4:22:32 PM3/26/11
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I say .... look at your dick and you will see
"I am a wimp" inscribed !


.

Wusong

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Mar 26, 2011, 5:01:47 PM3/26/11
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On Mar 26, 1:22 pm, Dave U. Random <anonym...@anonymitaet-im-

inter.net> wrote:
> I say .... look at your dick and you will see
> "I am a wimp" inscribed !


Nope, there isn't. Just because you've got "I am a wimp" inscribed on
your dick doesn't mean that other people's do, wimp!

asdf asdf

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Mar 26, 2011, 7:30:51 PM3/26/11
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Bush, specifically.

Frankie Lee

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Mar 26, 2011, 9:48:24 PM3/26/11
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**Are you not implying my words are superior?Go and see yourself.

rst9

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Mar 26, 2011, 9:52:21 PM3/26/11
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He said you're an idiot, Frankie Lee.

Alex

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Mar 26, 2011, 9:59:13 PM3/26/11
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On Mar 26, 5:03 pm, Anti-DabianchenVirus <wuso...@rocketmail.com>
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Frankie Lee can go fly kite.

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Wusong

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Mar 27, 2011, 12:57:49 AM3/27/11
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On Mar 26, 6:48 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:


You have just admitted openly that you are a bigot with the mentality
of a 10-year-old child who cannot comprehend what other people say.
All you know is what you have been brainwashed to believe by false
preachers like yourself, Frankie Lee.

Proof beyond any shadow of doubt that you are a liar and a fraud:

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/8fdc53c778da7b40?hl=en&pli=1

Alex

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Mar 27, 2011, 9:22:13 PM3/27/11
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Alex

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Mar 27, 2011, 9:23:47 PM3/27/11
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Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of
the most High.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said,
Ye are gods?
1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that
the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for
the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
6:15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I
then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an
harlot? God forbid.
6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost
which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your
body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit
of the Lord is, there is liberty
4:10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus,
that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. 4:11
For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that
the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.
4:16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish,
yet the inward man is renewed day by day.
6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are
the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them,
and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my
people.
13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own
selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you,
except ye be reprobates?

rst0wxyz

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Mar 27, 2011, 10:26:38 PM3/27/11
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On Mar 27, 6:22 pm, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 12:57 pm, Wusong <wus...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> > You have just admitted openly that you are a bigot with the mentality
> > of a 10-year-old child who cannot comprehend what other people say.
> > All you know is what you have been brainwashed to believe by false
> > preachers like yourself, Frankie Lee.
>
> > Proof beyond any shadow of doubt that you are a liar and a fraud:
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/8fdc53c778da7b40...
>
> Frankie Lee is wrong because he based on other parts of the Bible on
> faith.

Any and all parts of the bible is based on faith.

Wusong

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Mar 27, 2011, 11:32:11 PM3/27/11
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Throughout the centuries, religion has given solace, comfort, and
inspiration to the poor, the destitute, and the uneducated. It has
also taught them compassion. It has inspired Man to conquer hardship
and build civilizations, but it has also brought untold miseries
through war and suppression. Today, religion has become a weapon for
different peoples to wage war and impose their will onto others, and
to give excuses for Man's inability to comprehend and cope with
Nature. Religion is necessary in our culture, because there will
always be the poor, the destitute, and the uneducated. Unfortunately,
there are also ignorant unscrupulous religious fanatic extremists the
likes of Frankie Lee, who think that the pursuit of Heaven is all
important and that the CCP is the embodiment of Satan.

Alex

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Mar 28, 2011, 10:21:18 PM3/28/11
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Chapter 2 of Bhagavad Gita is saying your spiritual soul can never die
or eternal.

Genesis 2 v 7 says God blew his breath of Life into the clay figure to
make Adam alive.
Breath of Life is your spirit or God's spirit inside you. So you are
God. We are all Gods.

Buddhism has your Mind is the Buddha. Mind is the spirit inside you
but Buddhists don't talk spirit.

So there is no faith. It is only the belief of SELF is the God will
do.
No religion to talk about.

rst0wxyz

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Mar 28, 2011, 10:42:25 PM3/28/11
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On Mar 28, 7:21 pm, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 10:26 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 27, 6:22 pm, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 27, 12:57 pm, Wusong <wus...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> > > > You have just admitted openly that you are a bigot with the mentality
> > > > of a 10-year-old child who cannot comprehend what other people say.
> > > > All you know is what you have been brainwashed to believe by false
> > > > preachers like yourself, Frankie Lee.
>
> > > > Proof beyond any shadow of doubt that you are a liar and a fraud:
>
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/8fdc53c778da7b40...
>
> > > Frankie Lee is wrong because he based on other parts of the Bible on
> > > faith.
>
> > Any and all parts of the bible is based on faith.
>
> Chapter 2 of Bhagavad Gita is saying your spiritual soul can never die
> or eternal.

There is no soul, and nothing is eternal.

>
> Genesis 2 v 7 says God blew his breath of Life into the clay figure to
> make Adam alive.

More talk of faith and nothing else.

> Breath of Life is your spirit or God's spirit inside you. So you are
> God. We are all Gods.

I am only me and nothing else. There is no god.

>
> Buddhism has your Mind is the Buddha. Mind is the spirit inside you
> but Buddhists don't talk spirit.

Yeah, Buddha talks of enlightenment, but what is enlightenment?

>
> So there is no faith. It is only the belief of SELF is the God will
> do.
> No religion to talk about.

There is no god, Alex. Religion is a crutch to a weak mind.


Alex

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Mar 28, 2011, 10:47:27 PM3/28/11
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It is ONLY Salvation that I am preaching that is Sealing the Mark on
our forehead.

In Revelation there is mention of 144,000 Jews.

In Qu'ran there is

Surah 15 -- Al-Hijr
29. So, when I have made him and have breathed into him of My Spirit,
do ye fall down, prostrating yourselves unto him. (God's Spirit is our
spiritual soul which can never die. Therefore we are gods. Same as in
Genesis chapter 2.)
Surah 18 -- The Cave
97 Give me pieces of iron--till, when he had leveled up (the gap)
between the cliffs, he said: Blow!--till, when he had made it a fire,
he said: Bring me molten copper to pour thereon. (Iron and molten
copper are indirectly saying about the sealing the Mark on the
forehead.)
98 And (Gog and Magog) were not able to surmount, nor could they
pierce (it).
99 He said: This is a mercy from my Lord; but when the promise of my
Lord cometh to pass, He will lay it low, for the promise of my Lord is
true. (The Day of gathering is for people to have their forehead's
Marks sealed.)
100 And on that day We shall let some of them surge against others,
and the Trumpet will be blown. Then We shall gather them together in
one gathering. (This is sealing the Mark on the forehead.)

In Hui Neng Sutra there is Dharma transmission.

All these are the same, Sealing the Mark on our forehead. This is to
return to God or Nature.
If you refuse to return, you can only die and reborn as baby to
receive the Sealing.

rst0wxyz

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Mar 28, 2011, 10:52:33 PM3/28/11
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You have wasted your time and effort on a subject based on faith. I
don't have such faith. I try to see truth as it really is.

wiseguy

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Mar 28, 2011, 11:26:39 PM3/28/11
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> don't have such faith.  I try to see truth as it really is.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL!!! Let me take this opportunity to say something about the Church
of the Flying Spaggheti Monster, or Pastafarianism.

Pastafarianism is a real religion. Its only dogma is to reject dogma.
No indoctrination, no rules, no regulations, no rituals, no prayers,
no services to attend. Every member has a say in what the church is
all about.

Instead, we are guided by the following principles:

- Enlightenment does not require 100% literal belief in scripture.
Theoretically, the enlightenment formula is 50% from literal, blind
belief + 50% from brain utilization, based on hard, verifiable facts
and evidences.

- There are inherent contradictions in the teachings of the Church of
the Flying Spaggheti Monster. So, does other belief systems. But ours
is the only one that recognizes and embraces contradictions.

- We don’t take ourselves seriously, again, unlike other belief
systems.

- Every Friday is a Religious Holiday. That’s where the phrase, “Thank
God! It’s Friday!”, comes from

- We love beer!

So long as you as you subscribe to the above principles, you can be a
member of the Church of The Flying Spaggheti Monster, or a Pastafarian
(for short), or Pirate (even shorter).

You don’t have to give up your religion or lack thereof, in order to
join the Church of the Flying Spaggheti Monster. In other words, you
can remain a Muslim, Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Atheist, scientist, a
clown in the Church of Freakology…and still be a Pirate!

Membership is free. No entrance fee, no tithes of 10% your monthly
salaries. All Are Welcome!

So don’t procrastinate any longer. Come, and be touched by the power
of its noodly appendages!

(Rrrr)Aaamennnn!

http://www.venganza.org/

http://www.venganza.org/join/

ROTFLOLMAO!!!

rst0wxyz

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Mar 28, 2011, 11:34:56 PM3/28/11
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I don't drink beer, so you can count me out.
At 73, I still love milk, and a bit of coffee.

wiseguy

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Mar 28, 2011, 11:54:33 PM3/28/11
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On Mar 29, 11:34 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 8:26 pm, wiseguy <me_dawise...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>
>
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>
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> > On Mar 29, 10:52 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 28, 7:47 pm, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 29, 10:42 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mar 28, 7:21 pm, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Mar 28, 10:26 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Mar 27, 6:22 pm, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Mar 27, 12:57 pm, Wusong <wus...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>[snip]

> > LOL!!! Let me take this opportunity to say something about the Church
> > of the Flying Spaggheti Monster, or Pastafarianism.
>
> > Pastafarianism is a real religion. Its only dogma is to reject dogma.
> > No indoctrination, no rules, no regulations, no rituals, no prayers,
> > no services to attend. Every member has a say in what the church is
> > all about.
>
> > Instead, we are guided by the following principles:
>
> > - Enlightenment does not require 100% literal belief in scripture.
> > Theoretically, the enlightenment formula is 50% from literal, blind
> > belief  + 50% from brain utilization, based on hard, verifiable facts
> > and evidences.
>
> > - There are inherent contradictions in the teachings of the Church of
> > the Flying Spaggheti Monster. So, does other belief systems. But ours
> > is the only one that recognizes and embraces contradictions.
>
> > - We don’t take ourselves seriously, again, unlike other belief
> > systems.
>
> > - Every Friday is a Religious Holiday. That’s where the phrase, “Thank
> > God! It’s Friday!”, comes from
>
> > - We love beer!
>
> I don't drink beer, so you can count me out.
> At 73, I still love milk, and a bit of coffee.
>
[snip]

LOL!!! Your abstinence is no obstacle to fellowship in the Church of
the Flying Spaggheti Monster. A Pirate need not be beer-drinker in
order to be touched by the power of Its noodly appendages.

After all, unlike other belief systems, our Church does recognise and
accepts its contradictions.

And we dont take ourselves too seriously anyway!

(Rrrr)Aaamennn!

ROTFLOLMAO!!!

rst0wxyz

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Mar 29, 2011, 10:51:22 AM3/29/11
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You sound just the type of company I enjoy. Glad to join your group
(notice I don't use the word "church").

baldeagle

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Mar 29, 2011, 6:39:20 PM3/29/11
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On Mar 29, 10:42 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
>
> There is no soul, and nothing is eternal.

Yes. Soul don't exist ...and there is no eternal life...
When we die...we stop to exist.

However, the elements in us are eternal. When we
die, our body will return to become star dust again.
The star dust has been in existence since the beginning
of the universe. The water, the energy, the air and
the Qi in us will leave our body to rejoin the pool of
elements in the universe... These elements of nature
are eternal.

These elements are the building blocks of all things
in nature...in the entire universe.

Alex

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Mar 29, 2011, 10:10:48 PM3/29/11
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The very Truth is you are God or Tao or Allah or Buddha etc etc.
It is only your Fate that blind you.

Alex

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Mar 29, 2011, 10:14:38 PM3/29/11
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God is just a name. We can call God Tao, Buddha, Krishna, Allah, etc
etc.

wiseguy

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Mar 30, 2011, 11:14:22 PM3/30/11
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> etc.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL!!! He is the Flying Spaggheti Monster!

ROTFLOLMAO!!!

baldeagle

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Mar 30, 2011, 11:35:08 PM3/30/11
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On Mar 30, 10:14 am, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

That's what you think....may be you are right...God is
just a name...NOT a supernatural being with almighty
power...as believed by millions of people who belong to
the Jewish, Christian, Islam and the Hindhu religion.

To those with questioning mind who seek the truth...
God is an illusion created by religion... there is absolutely
no proof that God exist in reality.

To the Tao and Buddhist (true follower of Buddha's
teaching), there is NO God...Lao Tze and Buddha
are NOT gods.

Amro

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Mar 31, 2011, 2:59:17 AM3/31/11
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Intelligent Design, thus Intelligent Designer.
It's as logical conclusion. Then we can talk
about religions in the context of time and space.


Alex

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Mar 31, 2011, 10:26:00 PM3/31/11
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You talking cock !

Alex

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Mar 31, 2011, 10:33:14 PM3/31/11
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Lao Tze and Sakyamuni Buddha were just human.
It is their spirits that are Gods.
Buddhists don't believe in spirit but the Thatagata. There is no
proper translation for this.

Buddha said your mind is the Buddha. What is mind ? In Chinese text it
is heart.
This something in your body, you can name it what ever you like. It is
the same as spirit.

Once the spirit leaves, the body becomes a carcass or corpse.

baldeagle

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Mar 31, 2011, 11:49:51 PM3/31/11
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It is their followers and the monks/priests who worship
them as God.


> This something in your body, you can name it what ever you like. It is
> the same as spirit.
>
> Once the spirit leaves, the body becomes a carcass or corpse.

All living creature is born with a life force (The Chinese call
it Qi. People who had their limbs amputated can still feel
the existence of this Qi. Scientists call of the phantom limbs).

Like other natural elements, (energy, star dust, water, air),
the life force(Qi) rejoin the pool of natural elements in
the universe.

Alex

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Apr 1, 2011, 10:24:31 PM4/1/11
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Stupid ! Chinese don't call it Qi.
Chinese call it 'Sing'
See Sanjijing.
See Hui Neng Sutra in Chinese texts.

baldeagle

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.> > To those with questioning mind who seek the truth...
.> > God is an illusion created by religion... there is absolutely
.> > no proof that God exist in reality.
>
.> Intelligent Design, thus Intelligent Designer.
.> It's as logical conclusion. Then we can talk
.> about religions in the context of time and space.


By intelligent design, are you saying....physical and biological
systems in the universe are the result of... purposeful design
by an intelligent being ..not by natural processes.

This is still being debated...
Personally, I say.. natural processes that created the
universe...and human beings.

If it was by intelligent design, the being responsible
for the design of the universe.. is definitely NOT the same
God of religion as written in the bible and the quran.(They
are fairy tales).


baldeagle

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Apr 2, 2011, 9:08:58 PM4/2/11
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Yes. Chinese do call it QI.

"The vital force believed in Taoism and other Chinese thought to be
inherent in all things. The unimpeded circulation of chi and a balance
of its negative and positive forms in the body are held to be
essential to good health in traditional Chinese medicine."

http://www.answers.com/topic/chi-1#ixzz1IPxaT2Ma

> Chinese call it 'Sing'
> See Sanjijing.
> See Hui Neng Sutra in Chinese texts.

Hui Neng deviated from Buddh's teaching.

Buddha taught his followers and monks...NOT
to yearn for eternal life.
Buddha told his monks that there was no individual
soul... when we die, we return to become the
elements that made up the universe.

Alex

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Apr 2, 2011, 10:08:47 PM4/2/11
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In Chinese culture it is 'Sing' or innate SELF that is common among
the folks.
In Taoism it is Tao. That is in scriptures of Taoism.

Don't get mixed up.
Quote your verses in reply.

I cannot quote here because my laptop can not read Chinese texts.

baldeagle

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In Chinese the word 神 means god,..or supernatural beings.
Only the superstitious simple minded folks believe in 神.

神 is NOT one the five elements mentioned in Buddha's
teaching. The five elements we all returned to...when we
die.

. > Quote your verses in reply.

Here you are, the
Satipatthana Sutta: The Foundations of Mindfulness
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.010.nysa.html

In this Sutta, Verse 5: ( The Reflection on the Material Elements)

Budda said: "There are in this body the element of earth,
the element of water, the element of fire, the element of wind."

"Just as if, monks, a clever cow-butcher or his apprentice,
having slaughtered a cow and divided it into portions, a monk
reflects on his very body, by way of the material elements,
"There are in this body the elements of earth, water, fire,
and wind." When we die, these element that made up our
body leave us...to rejoin the pool of element in the universe.

In this Sutta, Buddha called the Qi (life force) as ...
'enlightenment-factor of energy'.
It is though meditation, one can become aware of
this energy (life force) in us.


> In Taoism it is Tao. That is in scriptures of Taoism.
>

If you read Tao De Ching...you will know that Lao Tze
did not say we (our spirit) live on eternally. He taught us
the way of nature...how to live wisely in step with nature
in this world...

http://www.chinapage.com/gnl.html#01


Alex

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Apr 3, 2011, 10:40:54 PM4/3/11
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Hard to argue with you.

Chinese culture stress on innate SELF.
Zhongyong has it.
Sanjijing has it.
etc etc.

Taoism call it Tao.

Taoyist Yoga teaches 'qi' circulation.

Taoteching chapter 1 is trying to say 'suan kuan' is the Gateway to
Nature or God.

There is no name for the innate SELF, so Lao Tze named it Tao.

Taoism has 'wu chi' giving birth to 'tai chi' or Yang and Yin.
This is the same as Genesis chapter 1.
God give birth to Light and Darkness.
Light can be Jesus and Darkness is Satan.
Or our 2 eyes.

In Visualising Sutra I explain the 2 Bodhhisattvas flanking Amitaba
Buddha.
These represent our 2 eyes flanking the 'suan kuan'.

Buddha of Medicine is flanked by Sun Bodhisattva and Moon Bodhisattva.
Sun is our right eye. Moon is our left eye.

Mercy Seat is the Mark on our forehead. This is 'suan kuan'.


Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of
the most High.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said,
Ye are gods?
1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that
the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

> Satipatthana Sutta: The Foundations of Mindfulnesshttp://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.010.nysa.html

baldeagle

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On Apr 4, 10:40 am, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

.> Hard to argue with you.
>
There is no need to argue with me. I speak the
truth...and reality.


> Chinese culture stress on innate SELF.
> Zhongyong has it.
> Sanjijing has it.
> etc etc.

Confucius teaching is good...but it is outdated.
As a result, if you apply his teaching to modern
society...you will find contradictions. You need
to be selective in reading Confucius 'four books'
including Zhongyong and Sanjiching.

>
> Taoism call it Tao.
>
> Taoyist Yoga teaches 'qi' circulation.
>
> Taoteching chapter 1 is trying to say 'suan kuan' is the Gateway to
> Nature or God.

Chapter 1 of Toateching says:

1 道可道,非常道。名可名,非常名 。
2 无,名天地之始。有,名万物之母。
3 故常无,欲以观其妙。常有,欲以观其徼。
4 此两者同出而异名,同谓之玄。
5 玄之又玄,众妙之门。

This is the most profound of Lao Tze
writing. It is the foundation of his philosophy.

Translation:

"The ways (of nature, of universe, of our life) that can
be preached are the supreme ways.
The name (processes of nature and creative forces)
that can be named are the supreme names (principles
or law of nature)

In nothingness (absolute void ), it was the beginning
of the universe.
Having Tao and creative forces (names), are the
mothers of all things in the universe.

Always seek the ways of nature, will find the magical
ways of nature.
Always seek the creative ways, will find the laws of
nature.

These two forces (ways) are named differently, but
they originate from the same source.
They are both profound and insightful.

They are key to all doors (to all knowledge and happiness) "


Chapter one is NOT about God..
it is about the ways of nature....natural forces...about
seeking understanding on the ways of nature ...and
the power of nature.

rst7

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On Apr 4, 3:32 am, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 10:40 am, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> .> Hard to argue with you.
>
> There is no need to argue with me.  I speak the
> truth...and reality.
>
> > Chinese culture stress on innate SELF.
> > Zhongyong has it.
> > Sanjijing has it.
> > etc etc.
>
> Confucius teaching is good

Confucius teaching was bad and is especially bad today. The world
always belongs to the ones who wants to take it. No one wants yo hand
you the world without a fight.

baldeagle

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Apr 4, 2011, 11:16:49 AM4/4/11
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The computer....is an example... on the application of
the forces of Tao...the ying and yang.


rst0wxyz

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Apr 4, 2011, 12:10:20 PM4/4/11
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On Apr 4, 8:16 am, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 6:32 pm, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:

*> The computer....is an example... on the application of
*> the forces of Tao...the ying and yang.

In the words of LT Lee:

please elaborate.


lo yeeOn

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Apr 4, 2011, 2:06:29 PM4/4/11
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In article <740f1874-1448-4a71...@o21g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,

Well, it's funny the way baldeagle put it. I suppose he meant the 0
and the 1 in the binary basis of digital logic.

But then it doesn't have to go binary in order to compute. You might
say that binary is convenient when you are constantly dealing with the
true and false of statements.

But then again you can always treat that as a subclass of cases.

Furthermore, as they say: idea is cheap. You can see why!

If the yin and yang were such a powerful idea, then China would not
have been so badly exploited by the European powers for centuries!

The proof or assurance that _any_ computation can be accomplished with
a network of switching elements is by no means trivial.

And then, there is the extremely delicate questions of timing and
simultaneity addressed by the subject of logic design.

And then there is the question of miniaturization, which was so
fundamental a handicap for the Soviet scientists that the USSR
eventually lost out to the US in terms of geopolitical influence when
digital computing becomes the decisive engine of our country's
economic activities and economic power.

It takes much more than ideas to make real progress, though it
certainly helps if one can devote one's waking hours thinking, instead
of getting glued to the TV (or your ipod) or going shopping.

lo yeeOn
========

rst9

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Apr 4, 2011, 2:33:39 PM4/4/11
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On Apr 4, 11:06 am, acous...@panix.com (lo yeeOn) wrote:
> In article <740f1874-1448-4a71-8d66-a73d6af18...@o21g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,

>
> rst0wxyz  <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Apr 4, 8:16 am, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Apr 4, 6:32 pm, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >*> The computer....is an example... on the application of
> >*> the forces of Tao...the ying and yang.
>
> >In the words of LT Lee:
>
> >please elaborate.
>
> Well, it's funny the way baldeagle put it.  I suppose he meant the 0
> and the 1 in the binary basis of digital logic.
>
> But then it doesn't have to go binary in order to compute.  You might
> say that binary is convenient when you are constantly dealing with the
> true and false of statements.

Computers don't need be binary, but it's a lot more efficient. I once
worked on a decimal system computer, 0 - 9 system. It was the Singer
Business Machine System 10. POS, point-of-sale system was started by
Singer Business Machine System 10, and Sears was the first big
customer. In the early 1970s, all Sears stores were using SBM's
System 10 POS "electronic cash registers", and SBM went wild with huge
expectations of big corporation sales. Unfortunately, Sears was the
only customer, and SBM went out of business.

In the 1980s, IBM had 34% of POS business, followed by National
Semiconductor with 32%. NCR, National Cash Register had 14%.

I don't know what it is today. Anybody else know what the company
percentages are today?

baldeagle

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Apr 4, 2011, 7:44:44 PM4/4/11
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Lao Tze said: "有,名万物之母."


"Having Tao and creative forces (names), are the
mothers of all things in the universe. "

According to Lao Tze, this is the way how
nature work. Creatures in nature have male(yang)
and female(ying)....it create more new creatures....
This is the way ying-yang ...the way of nature.

Using the ying-yang gates (Boolean function),
scientists are able to create a calculator... and
later the computers.

Alex

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Apr 4, 2011, 10:17:07 PM4/4/11
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Chapter is not about God.

It is about the Gateway to Nature or God or whatever it is.

第 一 章

道 可 道 , 非 常 道 ; 名 可 名 , 非 常 名 。 無 名 , 天 地 之 始 ; 有 名 , 萬 物 之 母 。 故 常 無
欲 , 以 觀 其 妙 ; 常 有 欲 , 以 觀 其 徼 。 此 兩 者 同 , 出 而 異 名 , 同 謂 之 玄 ,
玄 之 又 玄 , 眾 妙 之 門 。

一章○是說玄關○眾妙之門○觀玄關是觀無空○觀鼻尖是觀萬字或日沒○兩者是一樣○
To understand chapter 1, you need to read Taoist Yoga chapter 1 first.
The last verse of the above chapter is talking about the Mystic
Portal. The chapter can be read as:-
The Way can be trodden but it is not a normal Way. You can name it but
the name is not its name. Without a name it is the creator of heaven
and earth. Given a name it is the mother of all creation. Always empty
(nothingness), you have to observe its mystery. Conceiving its
presence, we have to observe its outlines. These 2 observations are
the same. Both are mystic for we are looking at the mysterious Mystic
Portal.
Observation is done by the 2 eyes. The only outlines you see is the
nose tip and the abstract X image. It resembles the Buddhist swastika.
The difficulty in explanation is that we have to look at the Mystic
Portal but this is impossible for we only see empty space. So the
guide is to look at the nose tip, viewing the abstract X image. Even
in the Bible, it reminds us to look for Jesus outside the city of
Jerusalem, that is the place of crucifixion on the hill. Jerusalem is
Mystic Portal, nose tip is where Jesus was crucified.

You can see this in http://www.kewkahfatt.9f.com/chinese/commenttao.html
.

On Apr 4, 6:32 pm, baldeagle <force....@gmail.com> wrote:

Alex

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Apr 4, 2011, 10:20:05 PM4/4/11
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Stupid !
Confucianism is conquering the world.

This is confirmed in
Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the
coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: 4:6 And he shall
turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the
children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a
curse.

Elijah is the Savior preaching Confucianism.

baldeagle

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Apr 5, 2011, 6:35:40 PM4/5/11
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On Apr 5, 10:17 am, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Chapter is not about God.
>
> It is about the Gateway to Nature or God or whatever it is.
>
> 第 一 章
>
> 道 可 道 , 非 常 道 ; 名 可 名 , 非 常 名 。 無 名 , 天 地 之 始 ; 有 名 , 萬 物 之 母 。 故 常 無
> 欲 , 以 觀 其 妙 ; 常 有 欲 , 以 觀 其 徼 。 此 兩 者 同 , 出 而 異 名 , 同 謂 之 玄 ,
> 玄 之 又 玄 , 眾 妙 之 門 。
>
> 一章○是說玄關○眾妙之門○觀玄關是觀無空○觀鼻尖是觀萬字或日沒○兩者是一樣○
> To understand chapter 1, you need to read Taoist Yoga chapter 1 first.
> The last verse of the above chapter is talking about the The chapter can be read as:-

> The Way can be trodden but it is not a normal Way. You can name it but
> the name is not its name. Without a name it is the creator of heaven
> and earth. Given a name it is the mother of all creation. Always empty
> (nothingness), you have to observe its mystery. Conceiving its
> presence, we have to observe its outlines. These 2 observations are
> the same. Both are mystic for we are looking at the mysterious Mystic
> Portal.
> Observation is done by the 2 eyes. The only outlines you see is the
> nose tip and the abstract X image. It resembles the Buddhist swastika.
> The difficulty in explanation is that we have to look at the Mystic
> Portal but this is impossible for we only see empty space. So the
> guide is to look at the nose tip, viewing the abstract X image. Even
> in the Bible, it reminds us to look for Jesus outside the city of
> Jerusalem, that is the place of crucifixion on the hill. Jerusalem is
> Mystic Portal, nose tip is where Jesus was crucified.
>

Mystic Portal.....Buddhist swastika...abstract X image...
the Bible....TaoTeChing is NOT about these things.

Alex

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Apr 5, 2011, 9:50:52 PM4/5/11
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Stupid !

Savior = Melchizedek = Maitreya Buddha = Sage King = Succour the last
prophet etc etc.

rst9

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On Apr 5, 6:50 pm, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Stupid !
>
> Savior = Melchizedek = Maitreya Buddha = Sage King = Succour the last
> prophet etc etc.

Alex = nuts!!

Alex

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baldeagle

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On Apr 7, 10:04 am, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
. > On Apr 6, 10:58 am, rst9 <rst9w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
. > > Stupid !

.> Don't be funny !
>
.> I am going after people.

You go after the people. ....what does it prove ?

When Bin Laden go after the USA, he destroyed the
WTC on 9-11.
When Bush go after Bin Laden, he invaded Afghanistan.

When you go after the people...what have you done ?
You have done NOTHING...you just talk cock only.

This is the reason why others treat you either as
stupid or mad.
Rst9 called you stupid...and the police sent you
to Woodbridge and IMH.

Alex,.. go and look at yourself in the mirror...what do
you see !
Do you see a great man like Gandi...who had done great
feat....or a do you see an useless Alex....who has done
nothing..absolutely nothing ...ZERO ?

Tell us what do you see in the mirror !

Alex

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Apr 7, 2011, 10:43:38 PM4/7/11
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When I go after the Siao Lin Pugilistic Federation, the Shuang Lin
temple was bitter by white mice so they have to get lost.

When I disturbed the Taekwondo Association, the building was burned
down.

When I cursed the JC Amarjett Singh, his son was lasted in prison for
drupg taking. This is the initial punishment. He has to crawl to me to
be my footstool.

I cursed a lot of people in my article http://www.kewkahfatt.9f.com/election97.html
. That included JB Jeyaratnam and Chee Soon Chuan.

I cursed Lee Kuan Yew also in my Election 84 piece. See my blog.

I am waiting for the police to arrest me. Just see whether they have
the guts to arrest me.

Alex

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Apr 7, 2011, 10:51:09 PM4/7/11
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Correction - white ants or termites destroyed Shuang Lin temple.

On Apr 8, 10:43 am, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> When I go after the Siao Lin Pugilistic Federation, the Shuang Lin
> temple was bitter by white mice so they have to get lost.
>
> When I disturbed the Taekwondo Association, the building was burned
> down.
>
> When I cursed the JC Amarjett Singh, his son was lasted in prison for
> drupg taking. This is the initial punishment. He has to crawl to me to
> be my footstool.
>

> I cursed a lot of people in my articlehttp://www.kewkahfatt.9f.com/election97.html


> . That included JB Jeyaratnam and Chee Soon Chuan.
>
> I cursed Lee Kuan Yew also in my Election 84 piece. See my blog.
>
> I am waiting for the police to arrest me. Just see whether they have
> the guts to arrest me.
>

> kewkahf...@yahoo.com.sg
> kewkahfattsingap...@hotmail.comhttp://www.kewkahfatt.9f.com/index.htmlhttp://members.multimania.co.uk/alexkew/index.htmlhttp://kewkahfatt.blogspot.com/index.html

baldeagle

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Apr 7, 2011, 11:01:07 PM4/7/11
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On Apr 8, 10:43 am, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

.When Bin Laden go after the USA, he destroyed the
.WTC on 9-11.
.When Bush go after Bin Laden, he invaded Afghanistan.
.When you go after the people...what have you done ?
.You have done NOTHING...you just talk cock only

.> When I go after the Siao Lin Pugilistic Federation, the
.> Shuang Lin temple was bitter by white mice so they
. > have to get lost.
.> When I disturbed the Taekwondo Association, the building
.> was burned down.
.>
.> When I cursed the JC Amarjett Singh, his son was lasted
.> in prison fordrupg taking. This is the initial punishment.
.>

.> I cursed Lee Kuan Yew ...


Aiyah...you talk big only...Shuang Lin temple, Shuang Lin
temple and Amarjett Singh..their problems were NOT caused
by you.

Anyone can say...the earth quake in Japan was caused
by him. NO proof.

Can you curse PAP,... go after PAP...and can you cause
them to lose the coming election ?
If you can...then I say you are great....the most powerful
person in Singapore.

Alex

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Apr 8, 2011, 10:12:05 PM4/8/11
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I am not only the strongest person in Singapore but the world.

See my blog. http://kewkahfatt.blogspot.com/index.html .

Be warned I am Maitreya Buddha. So you offend me is not good for you.

rst9

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Apr 8, 2011, 10:44:49 PM4/8/11
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You and Filbert Brazil would go together well.

baldeagle

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Apr 9, 2011, 3:35:11 PM4/9/11
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On Apr 9, 10:12 am, Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com> wrote:


.> I am not only the strongest person in Singapore but the world.
>

That's what you say. People just laugh at you, unless you
can prove that you are indeed...a powerful person.

Otherwise..you are just a weak and mentally unsound
person who try to talk big.

Come on...curse and go after PAP...make them lose
the election. show us that you have the supernatural
power to do so. Can you ?

I suspect ...you talk big only!

Alex

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Apr 9, 2011, 10:08:15 PM4/9/11
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I don't talk big.
You idiot don't know Diamond Sutra well.
I am the 4-line stanza expounder.
"All phenomena are like
"A dream, an illusion, a bubble and a shadow,
"Like dew and lightning.
"Thus should you meditate upon them."

Go and read Diamond Sutra up.

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