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baldeagle

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Nov 23, 2008, 4:04:38 AM11/23/08
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I talked to a Tibetan businessman in KL...whose family is among the
130,000 exiles in Dharamsala, India, India. I asked him, ...what will
become of them, the Tibetan exiles.

His fervent hope was for an independent Tibet...his people could
return in triumph to their native Tibet...the homeland he left as a 8
year old kid. I asked him...if this was possible ?
He was a realist and he knows that unless China disintegrate like the
Soviet Union.... there is little hope for an independent Tibet.

I asked about the possibility of returning to Tibet, as Chinese
nationals...under Chinese rule with limited autonomy.
As a businessman, and having travelled to many countries and ...seen
people living in hardship around the world, ....his rational mind told
him that it was the right thing for his fellow men to do.... but
personally, he would rather remain in Malaysia.
His brothers and relatives who live in exile in Dharamsala,
India...led very tough life...far worse than his other relatives who
stayed behind in Tibet. (he had secretly returned to Lhasa as a
Malaysian Chinese and had seen with his own eyes...it is not better to
live in exile in India, a democracy)

I asked him ...about waging a war with China, for an independent
Tibet....from India.
He was honest ...to say that it would be futile...Apart from the lack
of resources and the means to do so, he doubt that India would permit
the exiles to launch a war against China... from Indian soil.

He realised that his fellow men ...live as guests at the courtesy of
India...without a country ...without a future for their
children....and without hope.
In the end, they would have to take up citizenship in India...and
become Indians...(provided India allow this to happen).

However, he hope that the USA will continue to support the DL ...and
the younger Tibetans (those born in India) in their fights for an
independent Tibet. It does not look good...as the US is having serious
economic problems and need China's help to fight the depression.

Siansiansian

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Nov 23, 2008, 4:20:01 AM11/23/08
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Basically the Lamas are living on the suffering of the ordinary
Tibetians. They bluff them to offer Lama for the secret pray to get
them to gate of heaven for their after life, in this way they can
slave ordinary tibetian for their luxury praying life.

It is the same as in ancient Europe when the Priests were living in
luxury life on the offering from the followers. They used the same
trick as Lama by telling people that only believe in them then it is
possible to get to the gate of heaven in their after life.

How can a Lama claims that they hold the key and secret to the gate of
heaven? They are all liers.

joyo

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Nov 23, 2008, 5:12:26 AM11/23/08
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The Indians are stupid to be even harboring them. india is going to
have a long time of tense relationship with China due to these
Tibetans (who actually are quite difficult to get along with from what
I've heard).

If India has to be in difficluties with anyone, then it should be for
Indians and not some, arrogant, aloof Tibetans.
The entire Indian leadership has been pressured by Westerners to act
for Tibet. These same Westerners who would offer no help in times of
trouble.

Stupid Indian fuck leadership!

M. Ranjit Mathews

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Nov 23, 2008, 6:14:22 AM11/23/08
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Which Lama claims that he holds the key and secret to the gate of
heaven?

Dragon

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Nov 23, 2008, 7:09:00 AM11/23/08
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I think the Tibetan issue can be compared to that of Taiwan, in that
there is no easy solution. Unfortunately, anti China factions will
always encourage what they call "independence" to Tibetans and
Taiwanese from the Central Chinese government, for lack of better
things to do, or to throw attention away from their own domestic
problems. Tibet is a part of China, and Tibetans can either accept it
and live as part of China, or deny it, and live forever as "exiles"
outside China. Whatever one may think of the Dalai Lama, he is not a
moron, and he himself cannot foresee a solution to this in his
lifetime; he is also aware of the fact that his followers are not
highly educated people, and that they have been brainwashed to be anti
China; that is why he predicted his successor as not being Tibetan,
but of Indian origin, in the hope that the Indian government would
give shelter for his followers and allow them to assimilate with the
Indian culture and society.

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 23, 2008, 8:15:14 AM11/23/08
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Unlike Tibet, Taiwan is independent from your Central Chinese
government since day 1, of course, unless you mean "the Central
Chinese government" is my government of Republic of China, yes, Taiwan
is part of the Republic of China since 1945. No wonder other netters
call you ignorant fool!!! You know nothing about Taiwan but talk about
Taiwan here, silly!

> Indian culture and society.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Dragon

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Nov 23, 2008, 8:35:37 AM11/23/08
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On Nov 23, 2:15 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
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> Unlike Tibet, Taiwan is independent from your Central Chinese
> government since day 1, of course, unless you mean "the Central
> Chinese government" is my government of Republic of China, yes, Taiwan
> is part of the Republic of China since 1945. No wonder other netters
> call you ignorant fool!!! You know nothing about Taiwan but talk about
> Taiwan here, silly!
>

"Your" Taiwan, Thai whore? When did you get possession of Taiwan? You
have been exposed to be no one other than the ugly, lying, cheap Thai
whore Meichi! Everyone in these newsgroups know you as "Meichi, the
ugly Thai whore, who wants to be a boy". That's why you masquerade as
a man here, where no one gives a shit about the shit you post.

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 23, 2008, 8:44:55 AM11/23/08
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I have been wondering if you are Psycho Xangdi, you are! Posting from
California but claimed you live in New York just like Psycho Xangdi,
so what else have you lied?

Hey, didn't other netters call you ignorant fool when you talked about
Taiwan's education system and Taiwan's participating Olympics Games???

joyo

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Nov 23, 2008, 8:54:55 AM11/23/08
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On Nov 23, 7:14 pm, "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Ranjit Matthews holds the key to the executive toilet.
When you gonna lose that name, arsehole?

Siansiansian

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Nov 23, 2008, 10:47:39 AM11/23/08
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On Nov 23, 7:14 pm, "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Dalai Lama
and all the Dalailama

ltlee1

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Nov 23, 2008, 11:08:18 AM11/23/08
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The Tibetan exiles are indeed an misled people.
But by whom? And to what ends?

America wants to harass China during the cold war. It continues to do
so
because of bureacratic inertia and some officials' hostility toward
China.

Other western countries as well as America also uses the Tibet issue
to
highlight their government, despite past atrocites and current
incompetence,
are still better than the PRC governemnts..

Human rights organization sell holier than thou like Revlon sell love.
China and
Tibet is their bread and butter, they could hardly survey without
China and
Tibet to keep their fund drive alive.

Western free presses want stories. Tibetan issues freqently make
because many
westerners are fascinated by the notion of Shangrila. Of course, fakes
news on
Tibet will have no risk or discovered since most of their readers and
ignorant about
Tibet and China in general.

The exile monks wants to use the issue to maintain their status as the
ruling class.
Of course, Tibetan headlines would also help in raisng money for more
temples and
bigger living for the monk.

Human traffickers smuggle Tibetans and non-Tibetans under the cover of
helping
people to reach freedom.


Dragon

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Nov 23, 2008, 12:40:00 PM11/23/08
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On Nov 23, 8:44 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

> I have been wondering if you are Psycho Xangdi, you are! Posting from
> California but claimed you live in New York just like Psycho Xangdi,
> so what else have you lied?
>
> Hey, didn't other netters call you ignorant fool when you talked about
> Taiwan's education system and Taiwan's participating Olympics Games???
>


Yes, I live in NYC, but unlike you, I am not stuck in one place - my
work requires that I go to several places and meet the people who deal
with the projects I do. No, I am not the "Psycho Xangdi" who you claim
so many posters to be, but you are nevertheless Meichi, the ugly Thai
whore, pretending to be a Taiwanese refugee, but actually an illegal
alien. When did you say Taiwan became yours? You made the claim, but I
see you can't give an answer.
Just because you lie throughout your whole life, doesn't necessarily
mean that other people do.

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 23, 2008, 1:03:51 PM11/23/08
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You are Psycho Xangdi with same posting style and same wordings!!!

baldeagle

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Nov 23, 2008, 4:47:46 PM11/23/08
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On Nov 23, 8:09 pm, Dragon <dra...@newyork.com> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 10:04 am, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

> Tibet is a part of China, and Tibetans can either accept it
> and live as part of China, or deny it, and live forever as "exiles"
> outside China.

Tibetans accept the fact that Tibet is part of China.

However, those in exiles were misled when they left
Tibet in the 50s. Having suffered the terrible life of refugees
for many decades, now many wanted to return to
Tibet...their motherland.

China is happy to accept them back...as Chinese
nationals, under Chinese rule with limited autonomy...
and never as independent Tibetans.
The political leaders in exile... wanted more.. .and
they rejected China's terms for their return .

Tibetans in exiles are at a cross road. Their leaders
have effectively closed the doors, dashed their hope
of ever returning to their motherland.
Now they are faced with the unpalatable choices ....
to live in misery as refugees ...or to lose their identity
as Tibetan and become Indians.

AleXX

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Nov 24, 2008, 12:10:08 AM11/24/08
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It was reported sometime ago that the Dalai Lama used to bath in milk often
to make himself look youthful.

"Siansiansian" <willia...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dc824fc9-657f-4b1e...@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...

AleXX

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Nov 24, 2008, 12:11:17 AM11/24/08
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"M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The Dalai Lama shares the key with Gu Mo Wang.


AleXX

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"Siansiansian" <willia...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In Hong Kong it is Tew Nia Ma ::))


AleXX

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"joyo" <kqur...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Stupid Indian fuck leadership!

Balded Vulture had praised the Indian first for sinking a Somali pirate
ship. He had began to worship snakes. And now about to worship the Lama and
the Tibetans.

pg

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Nov 24, 2008, 12:27:50 AM11/24/08
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On Nov 23, 5:15 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

> Unlike Tibet, Taiwan is independent from your Central Chinese
> government since day 1, of course, unless you mean "the Central
> Chinese government" is my government of Republic of China, yes, Taiwan
> is part of the Republic of China since 1945. No wonder other netters
> call you ignorant fool!!! You know nothing about Taiwan but talk about
> Taiwan here, silly!

Holy shit !!

Read what that guy wrote ---

"Taiwan is independent from your Central Chinese government since day
1"

"yes, Taiwan is part of the Republic of China since 1945"

How idiotic can that guy be??

"Since day 1" = "1945" ??

Goddamn asshole !!!

pg

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Nov 24, 2008, 12:34:53 AM11/24/08
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On Nov 23, 1:47 pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

> Tibetans in exiles are at a cross road. Their leaders
> have effectively closed the doors, dashed their hope
> of ever returning to their motherland.
> Now they are faced with the unpalatable choices ....
> to live in misery as refugees ...or to lose their identity
> as Tibetan and become Indians.

It is never too late for those exiles to come to their senses and
break ranks with those "leaders"

If the Malays of Malaysia can start breaking rank with that racist
party, the Tibetan exiles should also be able to do so.

All it takes is to muster the courage to say "NO MORE !" to those who
have misled them for so long.

baldeagle

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Nov 24, 2008, 2:09:22 AM11/24/08
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On Nov 24, 1:34 pm, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 1:47 pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>
> > Tibetans in exiles are at a cross road. Their leaders
> > have effectively closed the doors, dashed their hope
> > of ever returning to their motherland.
> > Now they are faced with the unpalatable  choices ....
> > to live in misery as refugees ...or to lose their identity
> > as Tibetan and become Indians.
>
> It is never too late for those exiles to come to their senses and
> break ranks with those "leaders"
>
> All it takes is to muster the courage to say "NO MORE !" to those who
> have misled them for so long.

Is it that easy...just by saying "no more" ...
their wishes (to return to normal life in Tibet) will
come true like magic ?

It was not easy...to leave their homeland to
come to India in the 50s...it is more than mountains
to climb...to go back now.

lo yeeOn

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Nov 24, 2008, 3:03:31 AM11/24/08
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This is an interesting thread that baldeagle started with several
equally interesting followups on the Tibet problem, especially the
choices the Tibetan exiles now face.

As I have pointed out before (as many have already recognized), Tibet
Independence is a goal which cannot be achieved at this time, mainly
because of the destabilization effect it would have on China's peace
and security in light of the raw hegemonic acitivites the policymakers
of the US of America have displayed in the past decade. (The same can
be said of Taiwan independence. It's an idea to be brought to reality
at a wrong time.)

But as what I said above has implied, the idea of independence may not
be bad when brought to reality at the right time, provided that the
Tibetan people have the patience of hundreds of years, like the Jewish
people in the diaspora.

We should note in particular the parallel between the Jewish people
who began to leave Judea more than two thousand years ago and the
Tibetan people in exile today. The latter are just as backward
compared with the other contemporary cultures as the Jews were then,
against the Egyptians, the Greeks, and the Romans.

But the Jewish culture has always emphasized education, if only for
encouraging its people to learn to read so that they can read the
Scripture of Judaism (in Hebrew) and follow Moses' Commandments and
other things like prophesies and words of advice.

So, if, say, typically 10% of any people are smart people, then nearly
all of that 10% of the entire population would have the potential to
achieve their full potential when education is emphasized. That's why
once the great body of scientific and technological knowledge became
available in the past several hundred years in Europe where the Jews
found themselves in, they instantly became some of its most prominent
disseminators and propagators.

This phenomenon has enabled them to become the influence of the
various wealthy western countries in which they have lived in the
recent past as well as today. This fact, coupled with the Allies'
victory in WWII can be seen as largely responsible for the birth of
Israel, a Jewish state, as we've come to know today.

There is a Chinese saying which underscores the unity of the three
crucial elements necessary for some spectacular event to happen,
namely,

the coincidence of a heavenly timing, the benefit of the land, and
the readiness of the people involved.

Clearly such is more an emperical fact of an astute observer rather
than a mathematical statement. But I believe there is a large grain
of truth in it.

The Jews were not ready two thousand years ago when their culture were
that of herding and trading sheep. But two thousand years later, with
the help of having lived for generations in the knowledge-rich Europe
and with their own readiness, they were ready for their own country
and got it, though peace remains elusive (as they still have to sort
out exactly what and how much they want).

On the other hand, when a culture consists of 99% illiterates, then
statiscally, illiteracy would allow only .01 times 10% of all the
smart people (innately smart) of that culture to achieve their full
potential, assuming education and innate smartness are statiscally
independent.

We have seen from Michael Parenti's article ``Friendly Feudalism - a
Tibet myth'' that before the Dalai Lama led exile in the late 1950s,
Tibetans were mostly illiterate.

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html

Baldeagle's recollection of what the Malaysian Tibetan exile has told
him is telling: The Tibetan independence hopefuls do not have what he
called ``resources'' to achieve independence for Tibet.

He was honest ...to say that it would be futile...Apart from the lack
of resources and the means to do so, he doubt that India would permit
the exiles to launch a war against China... from Indian soil.

The most fundamental resource the Tibetan exiles do not have is
arguably the human resource. And the Tibetan theocracy which exerted
control over the Tibetan locals for centuries is directly responsible.

As one would recall from the Brad Pitt movie called ``Seven Years in
Tibet'', when the tall blonde Austrian athelete caught the adolescent
Dalai Lama's eyes, he wanted him all to himself. He wanted him to
come to his palace to teach or just talk to him everyday, instead of
having him teach a school of ``his people'' who were left to remain
illiterate.

He wanted him to direct the building of a movie house for himself,
using the free labor of ``his people'' who couldn't bear the sight of
seeing that their mothers in the form of the worms in the ground were
being disturbed, dislocated, or destroyed.

They were taught not to understand but to believe the nonsense that
they were poor and miserable because they were cursed into their
current hard lives because of the misdeeds from their former
incarnations.

And so, logically their mothers were all condemned to crawl around as
worms in the cold hard ground of Tibet.

This Dalai Lama was the same Dalai Lama who bumped heads with the
powerful House Speaker of the US, Nancy Pelosi, when he visited
Washington recently and said he would reserve judgment on the Iraq
war.

The readers are encouraged to read Micahel Parenti's article on the
selfishness of the Tibetan theocratic ruling class and its cruel
exploitation of the majority of the Tibetan people, generation after
generation.

However, in my opinion, the Tibetan people can have their independence
if that's their fervent desire. But they must be patient and they
must be wise.

They must be wise to know that education is key to their future, no
matter what they want to do. As they become educated, they will also
want to rid themselves of the theocracy, which is feudalism.

Feudalism has always been bad for the people whether it was practiced
in medieval Europe or in poor China for the last two milennia.

The Tibetan people must be patient because they have to wait out a
period in which some countries believe they can use military means to
dominate others.

I believe and hope that the day will come when there is absolutely no
threat to the Chinese people when there is an independent Tibet in
their southwest border. And when that time comes, then the Chinese
people and the Tibetan people will be brothers and sisters instead of
enemies.

lo yeeOn
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On Nov 23, 5:04=A0pm, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> I talked to a Tibetan businessman in KL...whose family is among the
> 130,000 exiles in Dharamsala, India, India. I asked him, ...what will
> become of them, the Tibetan exiles.
>
> His fervent hope was for an independent Tibet...his people could
> return in triumph to their native Tibet...the homeland he left as a 8
> year old kid. I asked him...if this was possible ?
> He was a realist and he knows that unless China disintegrate like the
> Soviet Union.... there is little hope for an independent Tibet.
>
> I asked about the possibility of returning to Tibet, as Chinese
> nationals...under Chinese rule with limited autonomy.
> As a businessman, and having travelled to many countries and ...seen
> people living in hardship around the world, ....his rational mind told
> him that it was the right thing for his fellow men to do.... but
> personally, he would rather remain in Malaysia.
> His brothers and relatives who live in exile in Dharamsala,
> India...led very tough life...far worse than his other relatives who
> stayed behind in Tibet. (he had secretly returned to Lhasa as a
> Malaysian Chinese and had seen with his own eyes...it is not better to
> live in exile in India, a democracy)
>

> I asked him ...about =A0waging a war with China, for an independent


> Tibet....from India.
> He was honest ...to say that it would be futile...Apart from the lack
> of resources and the means to do so, he doubt that India would permit
> the exiles to launch a war against China... from Indian soil.
>
> He realised that his fellow men ...live as guests at the courtesy of
> India...without a country ...without a future for their
> children....and without hope.
> In the end, they would have to take up citizenship in India...and
> become Indians...(provided India allow this to happen).
>
> However, he hope that the USA will continue to support the DL ...and
> the younger Tibetans (those born in India) in their fights for an
> independent Tibet. It does not look good...as the US is having serious
> economic problems and need China's help to fight the depression.

The Indians are stupid to be even harboring them. india is going to


have a long time of tense relationship with China due to these
Tibetans (who actually are quite difficult to get along with from what
I've heard).

If India has to be in difficluties with anyone, then it should be for
Indians and not some, arrogant, aloof Tibetans.
The entire Indian leadership has been pressured by Westerners to act
for Tibet. These same Westerners who would offer no help in times of
trouble.

Stupid Indian fuck leadership!

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On Nov 23, 10:04=A0am, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> I talked to a Tibetan businessman in KL...whose family is among the
> 130,000 exiles in Dharamsala, India, India. I asked him, ...what will
> become of them, the Tibetan exiles.
>
> His fervent hope was for an independent Tibet...his people could
> return in triumph to their native Tibet...the homeland he left as a 8
> year old kid. I asked him...if this was possible ?
> He was a realist and he knows that unless China disintegrate like the
> Soviet Union.... there is little hope for an independent Tibet.
>
> I asked about the possibility of returning to Tibet, as Chinese
> nationals...under Chinese rule with limited autonomy.
> As a businessman, and having travelled to many countries and ...seen
> people living in hardship around the world, ....his rational mind told
> him that it was the right thing for his fellow men to do.... but
> personally, he would rather remain in Malaysia.
> His brothers and relatives who live in exile in Dharamsala,
> India...led very tough life...far worse than his other relatives who
> stayed behind in Tibet. (he had secretly returned to Lhasa as a
> Malaysian Chinese and had seen with his own eyes...it is not better to
> live in exile in India, a democracy)
>

> I asked him ...about =A0waging a war with China, for an independent


> Tibet....from India.
> He was honest ...to say that it would be futile...Apart from the lack
> of resources and the means to do so, he doubt that India would permit
> the exiles to launch a war against China... from Indian soil.
>
> He realised that his fellow men ...live as guests at the courtesy of
> India...without a country ...without a future for their
> children....and without hope.
> In the end, they would have to take up citizenship in India...and
> become Indians...(provided India allow this to happen).
>
> However, he hope that the USA will continue to support the DL ...and
> the younger Tibetans (those born in India) in their fights for an
> independent Tibet. It does not look good...as the US is having serious
> economic problems and need China's help to fight the depression.

I think the Tibetan issue can be compared to that of Taiwan, in that
there is no easy solution. Unfortunately, anti China factions will
always encourage what they call "independence" to Tibetans and
Taiwanese from the Central Chinese government, for lack of better
things to do, or to throw attention away from their own domestic

problems. Tibet is a part of China, and Tibetans can either accept it


and live as part of China, or deny it, and live forever as "exiles"

outside China. Whatever one may think of the Dalai Lama, he is not a
moron, and he himself cannot foresee a solution to this in his
lifetime; he is also aware of the fact that his followers are not
highly educated people, and that they have been brainwashed to be anti
China; that is why he predicted his successor as not being Tibetan,
but of Indian origin, in the hope that the Indian government would
give shelter for his followers and allow them to assimilate with the
Indian culture and society.

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[1] Re: Tibetan exiles...misled people...what
+ will become of them !
Date: Sun Nov 23 11:08:18 EST 2008
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On Nov 23, 4:04?am, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> I talked to a Tibetan businessman in KL...whose family is among the
> 130,000 exiles in Dharamsala, India, India. I asked him, ...what will
> become of them, the Tibetan exiles.
>
> His fervent hope was for an independent Tibet...his people could
> return in triumph to their native Tibet...the homeland he left as a 8
> year old kid. I asked him...if this was possible ?
> He was a realist and he knows that unless China disintegrate like the
> Soviet Union.... there is little hope for an independent Tibet.
>
> I asked about the possibility of returning to Tibet, as Chinese
> nationals...under Chinese rule with limited autonomy.
> As a businessman, and having travelled to many countries and ...seen
> people living in hardship around the world, ....his rational mind told
> him that it was the right thing for his fellow men to do.... but
> personally, he would rather remain in Malaysia.
> His brothers and relatives who live in exile in Dharamsala,
> India...led very tough life...far worse than his other relatives who
> stayed behind in Tibet. (he had secretly returned to Lhasa as a
> Malaysian Chinese and had seen with his own eyes...it is not better to
> live in exile in India, a democracy)
>

> I asked him ...about ?waging a war with China, for an independent


> Tibet....from India.
> He was honest ...to say that it would be futile...Apart from the lack
> of resources and the means to do so, he doubt that India would permit
> the exiles to launch a war against China... from Indian soil.
>
> He realised that his fellow men ...live as guests at the courtesy of
> India...without a country ...without a future for their
> children....and without hope.
> In the end, they would have to take up citizenship in India...and
> become Indians...(provided India allow this to happen).
>
> However, he hope that the USA will continue to support the DL ...and
> the younger Tibetans (those born in India) in their fights for an
> independent Tibet. It does not look good...as the US is having serious
> economic problems and need China's help to fight the depression.

The Tibetan exiles are indeed an misled people.


But by whom? And to what ends?

America wants to harass China during the cold war. It continues to do
so
because of bureacratic inertia and some officials' hostility toward
China.

Other western countries as well as America also uses the Tibet issue
to
highlight their government, despite past atrocites and current
incompetence,
are still better than the PRC governemnts..

Human rights organization sell holier than thou like Revlon sell love.
China and

Dragon

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Nov 24, 2008, 3:03:33 AM11/24/08
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"Guy"? You are out of touch, Buddy!
The troll with the e-address abia...@my-deja.com has been exposed
beyond any shadow of doubt by Rusty to be an ugly Thai woman working
as a prostitute in New York. She failed miserably as a model in
Taiwan, and was forced to emigrate to the USA as an illegal alien.
Now she claims that Taiwan is hers! Once a whore, always a whore!

baldeagle

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Nov 24, 2008, 4:11:31 AM11/24/08
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On Nov 24, 4:03 pm, acous...@panix.com (lo yeeOn) wrote:

> The Tibetan people must be patient because they have to wait out a
> period in which some countries believe they can use military means to
> dominate others.

You asked...the Tibetan to be patient. But aren't they
patient. Those who come from Tibet have been patient
for more than 50 years. How much longer must they
wait ?
Most of them are in their 60s and 70s. Many of them
wish to return to their homestead ...to die...to be burried
next to their kins and ancestors.

As for military dominance...unfortunately it is a truth....
Military strength rule the world..it is true in Iraq, true
in Europe, true in the Middle East...true everywhere...not
only in Tibet. Until the day Tibet has the military strength
to challenge China and to demand independence...
Tibetans' dream of independence remains very much
a wishful dream.

>
> I believe and hope that the day will come when there is absolutely no
> threat to the Chinese people when there is an independent Tibet in
> their southwest border. And when that time comes, then the Chinese
> people and the Tibetan people will be brothers and sisters instead of
> enemies.

In modern societies, independence is very much a
mis-perception for most nations. For example...Are Japan
and Korea real independent countries...Can they
act against the interests of the USA ? Have they ?

Most nations are in fact inter-dependent..in a global
village.

I am not surprised, if many of the Tibetan exiles regret
throwing their lives away...seeking Shangri-la in
India...and found to their bitter disappointment...their
leaders badly misled them.

They have been sacrificed by their leaders to feed
their own political ambition. My sympathy is with
them.


abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 24, 2008, 5:49:56 AM11/24/08
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Stupid idiot! Taiwan returned to ROC in 1945 but has never been part
of PRC since PRC was founded in 1949.

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 24, 2008, 5:53:20 AM11/24/08
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Hey Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon), everyone knows I am Taiwanese
guy not Thai girl “Meichi” as you are trying to lie, so continue your
silly lie and show us how ridiculous you are!


On Nov 24, 3:03 am, Dragon <dra...@newyork.com> wrote:
> On Nov 24, 6:27 am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 5:15 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Unlike Tibet, Taiwan is independent from your Central Chinese
> > > government since day 1, of course, unless you mean "the Central
> > > Chinese government" is my government of Republic of China, yes, Taiwan
> > > is part of the Republic of China since 1945. No wonder other netters
> > > call you ignorant fool!!! You know nothing about Taiwan but talk about
> > > Taiwan here, silly!
>
> > Holy shit !!
>
> > Read what that guy wrote ---
>
> > "Taiwan is independent from your Central Chinese government since day
> > 1"
>
> > "yes, Taiwan is part of the Republic of China since 1945"
>
> > How idiotic can that guy be??
>
> > "Since day 1" = "1945" ??
>
> > Goddamn asshole !!!
>
> "Guy"? You are out of touch, Buddy!

> The troll with the e-address abianc...@my-deja.com has been exposed


> beyond any shadow of doubt by Rusty to be an ugly Thai woman working
> as a prostitute in New York. She failed miserably as a model in
> Taiwan, and was forced to emigrate to the USA as an illegal alien.

> Now she claims that Taiwan is hers! Once a whore, always a whore!- Hide quoted text -

pg

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Nov 24, 2008, 6:09:09 AM11/24/08
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50 years or 60 years may mean much for one's lifetime, but in the
perspective of civilization, it's but a flip of eyelash.

The same 50 or 60 years is almost the same as the time the Chinese
have spent waiting in Malaysia, waiting for the time to muster the
courage to tell the Malays to fuck off, once and for all.

pg

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Nov 24, 2008, 6:28:28 AM11/24/08
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Attempt to equate the Tibetans with the Jews? Nice try.

There is something glaring that you've managed to miss --- and that
is, after 2000+ years of persecution, of pogroms, of massacres, those
of the Jewish origin that manage to survive are of the best stock.

It's no wonder the world's economy is largely being controlled by the
Jews --- they have the brainpower to carry on with that task.

Tibetans, on the other hand, are no better than the Burmese, or
Cambodians, in that their brain isn't as powerful as their neighbors,
-- the Hans and the Indians, for instance, -- nor they have the will
to improve themselves.

All the talk about "independence" are but hotair. Even if China grants
them true independence, the country of Tibet, as it is, can't survive
in this modern world.

It has neither the product, nor the resource, which the world wants.

It's not situated in strategic trade crossroads of the world either.

If China grants Tibet independence tomorrow, Tibet will still die
within 10 years.

Mass famine and disease will surely wipe out vast numbers of the
Tibetan population, and the rest ... they will be so weak that they
can't even crawl out of their highland.

All those Tibetans have in common is that they are stupid. They
actually think that the Caucasians will come to help them.

They actually think that America or German or France will send their
best sons and daughters to fight the Chinese in order for them
Tibetans to get back their country.

Wait, bro, wait ... wait till one day all the Caucasians have lost
their collective mind, maybe that day would be the day Tibet sees its
own independence.

By then, probably most of the human species would be living outside
planet Earth.

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 24, 2008, 6:40:40 AM11/24/08
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What a stupid idiot! Tibet has existed for thousands of years, it will
not die in 10 years! Talking about IQ!

> > ========- Hide quoted text -

lo yeeOn

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Nov 24, 2008, 6:49:44 AM11/24/08
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In article <5fcc252f-f14e-409f...@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

baldeagle <botak...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>On Nov 24, 4:03 pm, acous...@panix.com (lo yeeOn) wrote:
>
>> The Tibetan people must be patient because they have to wait out a
>> period in which some countries believe they can use military means to
>> dominate others.
>
>You asked...the Tibetan to be patient. But aren't they
>patient. Those who come from Tibet have been patient
>for more than 50 years. How much longer must they
>wait ?

Baldeagle, stop acting like a bad boy again. I said at the start:

But . . ., the idea of independence may not be bad when brought to


reality at the right time, provided that the Tibetan people have
the patience of hundreds of years, like the Jewish people in the
diaspora.

So, in your opinion, the precious lesson in the success story of the
Jewish people, especially after what they had to go through, is not
even worth the Tibetan people in exile to think about? Something is
just futile or even counterproductive to rush, no matter how badly you
want it, as you must well know. Therefore, I don't think you should
speak for them so casually and in such haste.

Be good, Baldeagle!

lo yeeOn
========

(What I said in whole is appended below.)

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html

The Tibetan people must be patient because they have to wait out a


period in which some countries believe they can use military means to
dominate others.

I believe and hope that the day will come when there is absolutely no


threat to the Chinese people when there is an independent Tibet in
their southwest border. And when that time comes, then the Chinese
people and the Tibetan people will be brothers and sisters instead of
enemies.

lo yeeOn

baldeagle

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Nov 24, 2008, 9:07:15 AM11/24/08
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On Nov 24, 7:49 pm, acous...@panix.com (lo yeeOn) wrote:

>
> So, in your opinion, the precious lesson in the success story of the
> Jewish people, especially after what they had to go through, is not
> even worth the Tibetan people in exile to think about?  
>

There is no comparison between the Jews and
the Tibetans. It is like comparing a donkey with
a pig.

Xangdi

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Nov 24, 2008, 10:01:41 AM11/24/08
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Missed me, have you? So you went around accusing others to be me.
Haha! Remember how you said it was a honor to be commented by me? You
then went to say that I was one of the "CCP thugs", and on to saying
that I was "Bryson's alias"; now you say everyone is me. That is
called paranoia, Meichi! Some of us do have to work, you know, and I
have to do my "dig" before winter sets in. Well, then, it seems that
Rusty Old Fool have managed to expose you as "Meichi the ugly Thai
whore", huh? Figures. Your posts wreaks of an uneducated person with
lots of time to troll.

On 11月24日, 下午6時53分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

> > - Show quoted text -- 隱藏被引用文字 -
>
> - 顯示被引用文字 -

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 24, 2008, 10:18:48 AM11/24/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi's aliases = Dragon, WanLF, James T, Bryson,
Chairman Mao

Psycho+Racist Xangdi's posting history: Xangdi initially posted as
"Chairman Mao", he also used another alias to pretend as a black guy
to fan racial hatred against black people, after he was exposed,
"Chairman Mao" disappeared. Later, he signed up as "Bryson" with same
posting style, and was identified as actually the racist "Chairman
Mao". Xangdi is his current alias, he has been harassing abianchen
with all sorts of silly lies because abianchen exposed Xangdi's weird
behavior from the beginning!

> > - 顯示被引用文字 -- Hide quoted text -

Xangdi

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Nov 24, 2008, 10:20:39 AM11/24/08
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Stupid idiot! "Taiwan returned to ROC in 1945"? Where did Taiwan go
before 1945? You are just an uneducated Thai whore, Meichi - and an
ugly one at that!

On 11月24日, 下午6時49分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

> > Goddamn asshole !!!- 隱藏被引用文字 -
>
> - 顯示被引用文字 -

Xangdi

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Nov 24, 2008, 10:23:57 AM11/24/08
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But you will have to stop being a whore in 10 tears' time, wont you?
No one will have you, even if you paid them to screw you. Haha!

On 11月24日, 下午7時40分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

> > - Show quoted text -- 隱藏被引用文字 -
>
> - 顯示被引用文字 -

Xangdi

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Nov 24, 2008, 10:25:44 AM11/24/08
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Are those all, Meichi? How disappointing! Haha!


On 11月24日, 下午11時18分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 24, 2008, 10:27:40 AM11/24/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, James T, WanLF...):

No wonder two other netters called you ignorant fool!!!

China during Qing dyansty ceded Taiwan to Japan in 1895 and ROC got it
back in 1945. Taiwan has never been part of your PRC since day 1 when
your PRC was founded on 10/1/1949. Understand, Psycho+Racist+Idiot
Xangdi??? Haha!

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 24, 2008, 10:53:57 AM11/24/08
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Hey Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon), I noticed that you have removed
"living in Taipei", "engineer and archaeologist" from your profile
after you were exposed with those lies, so what else have you lied?
Haha!

rst0wxyz

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Nov 24, 2008, 10:55:31 AM11/24/08
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On Nov 24, 7:01 am, Xangdi <xan...@mail.com> wrote:
> Missed me, have you? So you went around accusing others to be me.
> Haha! Remember how you said it was a honor to be commented by me? You
> then went to say that I was one of the "CCP thugs", and on to saying
> that I was "Bryson's alias"; now you say everyone is me. That is
> called paranoia, Meichi! Some of us do have to work, you know, and I
> have to do my "dig" before winter sets in.

Still trying to dig your desert station in the Mojave Desert, ground
dog?

> Well, then, it seems that
> Rusty Old Fool

And you are still the worst son-of-a-bitch of all.

rst0wxyz

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On Nov 24, 3:09 am, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
> 50 years or 60 years may mean much for one's lifetime, but in the
> perspective of civilization, it's but a flip of eyelash.
>
> The same 50 or 60 years is almost the same as the time the Chinese
> have spent waiting in Malaysia,

Waiting for what, may I ask?

> waiting for the time to muster the
> courage to tell the Malays to fuck off, once and for all.

Why? Malaysia is their land!!! their ancestral land!! Where would
they go?


>
> On Nov 24, 1:11 am, baldeagle <botakea...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 24, 4:03 pm, acous...@panix.com (lo yeeOn) wrote:
>
> > You asked...the Tibetan to be patient. But aren't they
> > patient. Those who come from Tibet have been patient
> > for more than 50 years.  How much longer must they
> > wait ?
> > Most of them are in their 60s and 70s. Many of them
> > wish to return to their homestead ...to die...to be burried

> > next to their kins and ancestors.-

abia...@mindless.com

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Nov 24, 2008, 11:21:07 AM11/24/08
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Why did you leave me out?
O.K., I confess. I, Abianchen, am actually Meichi, a Thai model kicked
out from Taiwan by CSB, and am now working as a sex therapist in NYC.
Satisfied, everyone?
Which "two other netters" were those? Go on, tell us.


On 24 нояб, 16:27, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

> > - Show quoted text -- Скрыть цитируемый текст -
>
> - Показать цитируемый текст -

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 24, 2008, 11:32:03 AM11/24/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi' aliases: abia...@mindless.com, Dragon, James
T, WanLF, Bryson...

Psycho+Racist Xangdi's posting history: Xangdi initially posted as
"Chairman Mao", he also used another alias to pretend as a black guy
to fan racial hatred against black people, after he was exposed,
"Chairman Mao" disappeared. Later, he signed up as "Bryson" with same

posting style. When he was identified as actually the racist "Chairman


Mao". Xangdi is his current alias, he has been harassing abianchen
with all sorts of silly lies because abianchen exposed Xangdi's weird
behavior from the beginning!


On Nov 24, 11:21 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@mindless.com>
wrote:

> > - Показать цитируемый текст -- Hide quoted text -

Xangdi

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Nov 24, 2008, 11:34:18 AM11/24/08
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On 11月24日, 下午4時55分, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 24, 7:01 am, Xangdi <xan...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> > Missed me, have you? So you went around accusing others to be me.
> > Haha! Remember how you said it was a honor to be commented by me? You
> > then went to say that I was one of the "CCP thugs", and on to saying
> > that I was "Bryson's alias"; now you say everyone is me. That is
> > called paranoia, Meichi! Some of us do have to work, you know, and I
> > have to do my "dig" before winter sets in.
>
> Still trying to dig your desert station in the Mojave Desert, ground
> dog?
>

How did you ever get the notion that I was in the Mojave Desert? Must
be old age setting in you, huh? I am in Siberia, and it's damn cold
out here. I think I will apply for leave and go somewhere warmer for
the rest of the year. Brrrrrrrrrr ..........


> > Well, then, it seems that
> > Rusty Old Fool
>
> And you are still the worst son-of-a-bitch of all.
>

Flattery won't get you anywhere!


>
>
> >have managed to expose you as "Meichi the ugly Thai
> > whore", huh? Figures. Your posts wreaks of an uneducated person with
> > lots of time to troll.
>
> > On 11月24日, 下午6時53分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Hey Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon), everyone knows I am Taiwanese
> > > guy not Thai girl "Meichi" as you are trying to lie, so continue your
> > > silly lie and show us how ridiculous you are!
>

> > > On Nov 24, 3:03 am, Dragon <dra...@newyork.com> wrote:- 隱藏被引用文字 -
>
> - 顯示被引用文字 -

rst0wxyz

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Nov 24, 2008, 11:42:22 AM11/24/08
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On Nov 24, 8:34 am, Xangdi <xan...@mail.com> wrote:
> On 11月24日, 下午4時55分, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 24, 7:01 am, Xangdi <xan...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> > Still trying to dig your desert station in the Mojave Desert, ground
> > dog?
>
> How did you ever get the notion that I was in the Mojave Desert? Must
> be old age setting in you, huh? I am in Siberia, and it's damn cold
> out here. I think I will apply for leave and go somewhere warmer for
> the rest of the year. Brrrrrrrrrr ..........

No wonder. You're talking like you have no balls. It must have been
frozen and dropped off from you!!!

>
> > > Well, then, it seems that
> > > Rusty Old Fool
>
> > And you are still the worst son-of-a-bitch of all.
>
> Flattery won't get you anywhere!

Hummm, you like the "son-of-a-bitch" signature, huh? I got a lot more
whenever you want them.

>

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 24, 2008, 11:43:56 AM11/24/08
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Yep, this Xangdi guy is really a weirdo!

> > > On Nov 24, 3:03 am, Dragon <dra...@newyork.com> wrote:- Hide quoted text -

Xangdi

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Nov 24, 2008, 12:43:16 PM11/24/08
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Yep, you're a really UGLY Thai whore, Meichi! I mean REALLY ugly. Yuk!
That must be why you want to be a boy, huh?


On 11月25日, 上午12時43分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

Xangdi

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Nov 24, 2008, 12:43:54 PM11/24/08
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Planning to be Meichi's pimp, huh?

rst0wxyz

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Nov 24, 2008, 12:46:54 PM11/24/08
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On Nov 24, 9:43 am, Xangdi <xan...@mail.com> wrote:
> On 11月25日, 上午12時42分, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 24, 8:34 am, Xangdi <xan...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> > No wonder. You're talking like you have no balls. It must have been
> > frozen and dropped off from you!!!
>
> > Hummm, you like the "son-of-a-bitch" signature, huh? I got a lot more
> > whenever you want them.
>
> Planning to be Meichi's pimp, huh?

I am a clean living man. I treat everyone as I like to be treated.

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 24, 2008, 2:05:52 PM11/24/08
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Hey Psycho Xangdi (aka Dragon etc), in the real life, do you have any
friends?

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Xangdi

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Nov 24, 2008, 2:23:33 PM11/24/08
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More than you have customers, ugly whore Meichi!
Hey, ugly Thai whore Meichi , do you have a life? I know you don't
have a family, because they all denounced you.

On 11月24日, 下午8時05分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
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Xangdi

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Nov 24, 2008, 2:31:23 PM11/24/08
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Hey, ugly whore Meichi! You should go to a doctor and have your
paranoia examined. It is definitely the side effects of the AIDS you
have contracted as a whore.

On 11月24日, 下午8時05分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
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abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 24, 2008, 6:27:19 PM11/24/08
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Psycho Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you seem to get angry easily, learn
to control your temper or you will scare people away!

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 24, 2008, 6:30:04 PM11/24/08
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Psycho Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you seem to get angry easily, learn
to control your temper or you will scare people away! That's why I
have been wondering if you have any friends. You don't seem to have
any here!


On Nov 24, 2:31 pm, Xangdi <xan...@mail.com> wrote:

pg

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Nov 24, 2008, 7:45:22 PM11/24/08
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On Nov 24, 8:14 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > The same 50 or 60 years is almost the same as the time the
> > Chinese have spent waiting in Malaysia,

> Waiting for what, may I ask?

> > waiting for the time to muster the
> > courage to tell the Malays to fuck off, once and for all.

> Why? Malaysia is their land!!! their ancestral land!! Where
> would they go?


Do you know what your problem is?

You know nothing and yet you still comment on it.

Sigh ....

All I can say is that lady luck is at the side of the Chinese, since
they do not recognize you as a Chinese anymore.

pg

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Nov 24, 2008, 7:57:23 PM11/24/08
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On Nov 24, 7:01 am, Xangdi <xan...@mail.com> wrote:
> Missed me, have you? So you went around accusing others to
> be me. Haha! Remember how you said it was a honor to be
> commented by me? You then went to say that I was one of the
> "CCP thugs", and on to saying that I was "Bryson's alias"; now
> you say everyone is me.

Hey !! I am me !!!

Xangdi

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Nov 24, 2008, 11:22:26 PM11/24/08
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Hey, ugly whore Meich! You haven't produced a single shred of evidence
proving your allegations that I use other IDs! You can't can you?
Because you are an uneducated whore.
Now you are giving me advice. YOU? Haha! Who listens to a whore?

On 11月25日, 上午7時30分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

Xangdi

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Nov 24, 2008, 11:22:51 PM11/24/08
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Hey, ugly whore Meich! You haven't produced a single shred of evidence
proving your allegations that I use other IDs! You can't can you?
Because you are an uneducated whore.
Now you are giving me advice. YOU? Haha! Who listens to a whore?

On 11月25日, 上午7時27分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 25, 2008, 12:11:34 AM11/25/08
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Hey Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), I noticed that you have

removed "living in Taipei", "engineer and archaeologist" from your
profile after you were exposed with those lies, so what else have you
lied?

Xangdi

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Nov 25, 2008, 12:56:39 AM11/25/08
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Hey, ugly whore Meichi! You sound like a bad broken record. You

haven't produced a single shred of evidence proving your allegations
that I use other IDs! You can't can you? Because you are uneducated,
and that is why you are a whore! You know shit about about ISPs, time
stamps and IDs, because you are shit, a SHIT WHORE! Bwahahahaha!

On 11月25日, 下午1時11分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 25, 2008, 1:19:26 AM11/25/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl", a
"whore". why can't you make up your claim (or lies)? And what else
have you lied or are you going to lie? Tell us! Haha!

Xangdi

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Nov 25, 2008, 1:29:45 AM11/25/08
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Staying up late again, I see. Hey, ugly whore Meichi! You sound like a

bad broken record. You haven't produced a single shred of evidence
proving your allegations that I use other IDs! You can't can you?
Because you are uneducated, and that is why you are a whore! You know
shit about about ISPs, time stamps and IDs, because you are shit, a
SHIT WHORE! Bwahahahaha!


On 11月25日, 上午7時19分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 25, 2008, 1:44:28 AM11/25/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl", a
"whore". why can't you make up your claim (or lies)? And what else
have you lied or are you going to lie? Tell us, can you? of course,
you can NOT! Haha!

rst0wxyz

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Nov 25, 2008, 1:52:29 AM11/25/08
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On Nov 24, 4:45 pm, pg <pen...@catholic.org> wrote:
> On Nov 24, 8:14 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > The same 50 or 60 years is almost the same as the time the
> > > Chinese have spent waiting in Malaysia,
> > Waiting for what, may I ask?
> > > waiting for the time to muster the
> > > courage to tell the Malays to fuck off, once and for all.
> > Why?  Malaysia is their land!!! their ancestral land!!  Where
> > would they go?
>
> Do you know what your problem is?

Don't tell me.

>
> You know nothing and yet you still comment on it.

I told you not to tell me.

rst0wxyz

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Nov 25, 2008, 2:23:58 AM11/25/08
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Are you sure? I think you are lecher dog.

Xangdi

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Nov 25, 2008, 2:26:09 AM11/25/08
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You said you were "honored", when I first commented on your post, then
you accuse me of being "Bryson's alias"; you then said I was one of
the "CCP thugs", and after that you went on to accuse others of being
my aliases. You obviously lie like this throughout your "real life".
Tell us, Meichi, what is it like to be a hooker in New York, when they
all know that you are an illegal alien?

On 11月25日, 上午7時44分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>

Xangdi

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Nov 25, 2008, 2:27:02 AM11/25/08
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And you are Meichi abianchen.

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 25, 2008, 2:37:49 AM11/25/08
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abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 25, 2008, 2:39:31 AM11/25/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl", a
"whore". Why can't you make up your claim (or lies)? And what else
have you lied or are you going to lie? Tell us, can you? Of course,
you can NOT! Oh, this proves you are a stupid pathetic liar! Now, go
on, keep lying to show how ridiculous you are! Haha!

Xangdi

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Nov 25, 2008, 2:42:49 AM11/25/08
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Hey, ugly Thai whore Meich! You said you were "honored", when I first

commented on your post, then you accuse me of being "Bryson's alias";
you then said I was one of the "CCP thugs", and after that you went on
to accuse others of being my aliases. You obviously LIE like this

throughout your "real life". Tell us, Meichi, what is it like to be a
hooker in New York, when they all know that you are an illegal alien?

On 11月25日, 上午8時39分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 25, 2008, 7:29:58 AM11/25/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl". So
what else have you lied or are you going to lie? Now, go on, keep
lying to show how pathetic you are!

Xangdi

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Nov 25, 2008, 7:44:08 AM11/25/08
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Prove it, Whore!

On 11月25日, 上午7時29分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>

Xangdi

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Nov 25, 2008, 7:44:53 AM11/25/08
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Hey, ugly Thai whore Meich! You said you were "honored", when I first
commented on your post, then you accuse me of being "Bryson's alias";
you then said I was one of the "CCP thugs", and after that you went on
to accuse others of being my aliases. You obviously LIE like this
throughout your "real life". Tell us, Meichi, what is it like to be a
hooker in New York, when they all know that you are an illegal alien?


On 11月25日, 上午7時29分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 25, 2008, 8:44:45 AM11/25/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl". So
what else have you lied or are you going to lie? Now, go on, keep
lying to show how pathetic you are!

Xangdi

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Nov 25, 2008, 10:11:37 AM11/25/08
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Prove it!

Hey, ugly Thai whore Meich! You said you were "honored", when I first
commented on your post, then you accuse me of being "Bryson's alias";
you then said I was one of the "CCP thugs", and after that you went on
to accuse others of being my aliases. You obviously LIE like this
throughout your "real life". Tell us, Meichi, what is it like to be a
hooker in New York, when they all know that you are an illegal alien?

On 11月25日, 下午2時44分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 25, 2008, 10:26:11 AM11/25/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl". So
what else have you lied or are you going to lie? Now, go on, keep
lying to show how pathetic you are!

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rst0wxyz

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Nov 25, 2008, 10:34:14 AM11/25/08
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"I am who I am"

Xangdi

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Nov 25, 2008, 10:37:00 AM11/25/08
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You can only post repeats of your unfounded allegations like a broken
record, Meichi. Prove it, and be a real woman!

Hey, ugly Thai whore Meich! You said you were "honored", when I first
commented on your post, then you accuse me of being "Bryson's alias";
you then said I was one of the "CCP thugs", and after that you went on
to accuse others of being my aliases. You obviously LIE like this
throughout your "real life". Tell us, Meichi, what is it like to be a
hooker in New York, when they all know that you are an illegal alien?

On 11月25日, 下午4時26分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>

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abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 25, 2008, 10:38:28 AM11/25/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl". So
what else have you lied or are you going to lie? Now, go on, keep
lying to show how pathetic you are!

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Xangdi

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Nov 25, 2008, 10:58:38 AM11/25/08
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No, I never did. You accuse me of having said those things, so give
everyone here the links showing those allegations, Meichi. You have
said it over a hundred times, and yet you haven't produced a single
shred of evidence supporting you. Why? Because you are a lying whore.
You lie about your life, you lie about your ID, you lie about your
background, and now you lie about what others wrote on Usenet. So,
what are you? An ugly LYING Thai WHORE!!

Hey, ugly Thai whore Meich! You said you were "honored", when I first
commented on your post, then you accuse me of being "Bryson's alias";
you then said I was one of the "CCP thugs", and after that you went on
to accuse others of being my aliases. You obviously LIE like this
throughout your "real life". Tell us, Meichi, what is it like to be a
hooker in New York, when they all know that you are an illegal alien?

On 11月25日, 下午11時26分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>

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Nov 25, 2008, 11:07:32 AM11/25/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl". So
what else have you lied or are you going to lie? Now, go on, keep
lying to show how pathetic you are!

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Dragon

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Nov 25, 2008, 12:43:13 PM11/25/08
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On Nov 25, 7:11 am, Xangdi <xan...@mail.com> wrote:
> Prove it!
> Hey, ugly Thai whore Meich! You said you were "honored", when I first
> commented on your post, then you accuse me of being "Bryson's alias";
> you then said I was one of the "CCP thugs", and after that you went on
> to accuse others of being my aliases. You obviously LIE like this
> throughout your "real life". Tell us, Meichi, what is it like to be a
> hooker in New York, when they all know that you are an illegal alien?
>


Don't waste your breath. We all know that "abianchen" is dog shit. She
said so herself, remember? She even posted a picture of a huge pile of
shit to identify herself.

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Nov 25, 2008, 6:56:51 PM11/25/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl". So
what else have you lied or are you going to lie? Now, go on, keep
lying to show how pathetic you are!

Xangdi

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Nov 26, 2008, 12:36:46 AM11/26/08
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Hey, ugly Thai whore Meich! You said you were "honored", when I first
commented on your post, then you accuse me of being "Bryson's alias";
you then said I was one of the "CCP thugs", and after that you went on
to accuse others of being my aliases. You obviously LIE like this
throughout your "real life". Tell us, Meichi, what is it like to be a
hooker in New York, when they all know that you are an illegal alien?

On 11月26日, 上午12時56分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>

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Nov 26, 2008, 1:07:19 AM11/26/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl". So
what else have you lied or are you going to lie? Now, go on, keep
lying to show how pathetic you are!

Xangdi

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Nov 26, 2008, 1:24:39 AM11/26/08
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No, I never did. You accuse me of having said those things, so give
everyone here the links showing those allegations, Meichi. You have
said it over a hundred times, and yet you haven't produced one single
shred of evidence supporting any of your statements. Why? Because you

are a lying whore. You lie about your life, you lie about your ID, you
lie about your background, and now you lie about what others wrote on
Usenet. So, what are you? An ugly LYING Thai WHORE!! Bwahahahaha! On
night duty again, Whore?

On 11月26日, 上午7時07分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 26, 2008, 1:31:22 AM11/26/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl". So
what else have you lied or are you going to lie? Now, go on, keep
lying to show how pathetic you are!

Xangdi

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Nov 26, 2008, 1:41:59 AM11/26/08
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Hey, ugly Thai whore Meich! You said you were "honored", when I first
commented on your post, then you accuse me of being "Bryson's alias";
you then said I was one of the "CCP thugs", and after that you went on
to accuse others of being my aliases. You obviously LIE like this
throughout your "real life". Tell us, Meichi, what is it like to be a
hooker in New York, when they all know that you are an illegal alien?

On 11月26日, 上午7時31分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 26, 2008, 1:50:36 AM11/26/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl". So
what else have you lied or are you going to lie? Now, go on, keep
lying to show how pathetic you are!

Xangdi

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Nov 26, 2008, 1:52:52 AM11/26/08
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Pathetic? Look who's talking! Abianchen, the lying Thai whore Meichi!
Give everyone here the links showing those allegations you accuse me
of having said, Meichi. You have said it over a hundred times, and yet

you haven't produced one single shred of evidence supporting any of
your statements. Why? Because you are a lying whore. You lie about
your life, you lie about your ID, you lie about your background, and
now you lie about what others wrote on Usenet. So, what are you? An
ugly LYING Thai WHORE!! Bwahahahaha! On night duty again, Whore? Why
did they throw you out of Taiwan? "Your" Taiwan? Go on, tell us.

You said you were "honored", when I first commented on your post, then
you accuse me of being "Bryson's alias"; you then said I was one of
the "CCP thugs", and after that you went on to accuse others of being
my aliases. You obviously LIE like this throughout your "real life".
Tell us, Meichi, what is it like to be a hooker in New York, when they
all know that you are an illegal alien?

On 11月26日, 上午7時31分, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>

abia...@my-deja.com

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Nov 26, 2008, 2:05:11 AM11/26/08
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Psycho+Racist Xangdi (aka Dragon, etc), you initially claimed I am a
Chinese guy from Taiwan and went to school in Taiwan, then you claimed
I am a "gay guy" in New York, now you claimed I am "Thai girl". So
what else have you lied or are you going to lie? Now, go on, keep
lying to show how pathetic you are! Here's the link to Xangdi's lies:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/ffc838f441fe8d8b?hl=en

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