A Sex-oriented Religion: Yi Guan Dao, -- Latest China
Hongkuan Li
"[UPI, 1/9/93] BEIJING - Police in Xiamen City in Fujian province has
deported three Taiwanese Buddhist priests, members of a secretive Buddhist
sect, and accused them of illegally establishing temples and recruiting
followers, official media reported Wednesday. The Taiwanese priests
belong to the 'Yi Guan Dao' sect, which was banned in Taiwan until 1987,
out of fear it could become a secret society outside government control.
CNS said two priests plus an undisclosed number of followers entered China
twice this year to set up 12 temporary temples in the Fujian province.
(Forwarded by: A CND Reader)
___ End quote ___
Several relevant comments/questions:
1. Yi Guan Dao (YGD) florished in northern part of China esp during the
anti-Japanese period. The followers were believed to be helping the
Japanese in China in maitaining ruling.
2. Most memebers of YGD were either executed or put into jail by the
Communist in the late 1940's and early 1950's. For some mysterious
reasons, the Chinese Communist party hated the YGD to the bones.
3. I don't know Ku-min-tang's consistent policy against YGD. This report
informed us that YGD was banned in Taiwan before 1987. Then why the ban was
was removed? Could more informed netters tell us some background knowledge
about Taiwan's YGD and its developments around 1987?
4. The founder of YGD was a peasant from Shandong province. I don't
remember the exact story of its founding in the early time of this
century. It was in Beijing. Something related with sex. An early believer
devoted his young daughter to the founder of YGD for "sacred purposes", --
much like David Krash in Wico Texas.
5. This report says that YGD is a branch of Buddahism. I am afraid it's
not accurate. I thought it was remotely related to Taoism rather than
Buddahism. Reasons:
1). Dao (in YGD) usually has something with Taoism.
2). Taoism rather than Buddahism were notorious in indulging in sex.
Expert in this area please advise us.
6. To my knowledge, no or very few serious studies was done about YGD though
it's very influential in China's history. I remember Josoph Needham (Li
Yue-se), the famous British historian in China's science and technology,
slightly mentioned this subject in one of his multi-volume books on Taoism.
His knowledge was also very restricted. But he pointed out this religion's
sex content. I had a personal relative who believed YGD in 1940's. She
decided not to marry for her belief in YGD. Her personal life was very sad
in "New China", -- after long time jail, she was forced to marry a man
afterward at the age of 50's.
Xiaowen Li
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<4. The founder of YGD was a peasant from Shandong province. I don't
<remember the exact story of its founding in the early time of this
<century.
Yi Guan Dao was a follow-up of Bai Lian Jiao, Boxer. No wonder it started
from ShanDong.
>It was in Beijing. Something related with sex. An early believer
>devoted his young daughter to the founder of YGD for "sacred purposes", --
>much like David Krash in Wico Texas.
Like Boxer, it is not really a kind of religion, but a mixture of every
religions whatever convenient to fool followers. For example, the name of
YGD is from Dr. Johnny: "Wu DAO YI yi Guan zhi, Zhong Shu er yi". But the
No.1 God was MiLe Fu, from Fu Jiao while their stuffs like "He Ti Shuan Xiu"
was from the weird part of Dao Jiao (maybe from Mi Zong also, I am not sure).
In the Movement of Eliminating Counter-Revolutionaries" in the early 1950's,
all YGD members higher than the rank of "Dian Chuan Si" (Point, Transfer,
Teacher) were classified as Counter-Revolutionaries, might be sent into
jail or get a Hat only.
An interesting point is that YGD seems realizing Man-woman Equality. It seems
there were more femal Dian-Chuan-Shi than male ones. Though it may be because
higher rank YGD prefer "He Ti Shuan Xiu" :-)
XXX...@psuvm.psu.edu
>Subject: Re: A Sex-oriented Religion: Yi Guan Dao, -- Latest China
>Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 13:19:25 GMT
the use of "sex-orionted religion" seems
quite influenced by a film called
"yi guan hai ren tao" of 50's.
HAKKIM WONG
>Several relevant comments/questions:
>1. Yi Guan Dao (YGD) florished in northern part of China esp during the
>anti-Japanese period. The followers were believed to be helping the
>Japanese in China in maitaining ruling.
That is true.
>4. The founder of YGD was a peasant from Shandong province. I don't
>remember the exact story of its founding in the early time of this
>century. It was in Beijing. Something related with sex. An early believer
>devoted his young daughter to the founder of YGD for "sacred purposes", --
>much like David Krash in Wico Texas.
The time was 1910s.
It claimed 28 "western Masters" and 28 "Eastern Masters".
It is different from Bai-lian-jiao.
It was notorious in Northern China.
>5. This report says that YGD is a branch of Buddahism. I am afraid it's
>not accurate. I thought it was remotely related to Taoism rather than
>Buddahism. Reasons:
>1). Dao (in YGD) usually has something with Taoism.
>2). Taoism rather than Buddahism were notorious in indulging in sex.
>Expert in this area please advise us.
It is a mix of Sex, Power, with Buddhism, Confuciusnism and Taoism as
cover.
It is just like Bai-lian-jiao, etc.
No, Taoism is NOT notorious in indulging in sex.
The Taoism that I believe is the Real Taoism is Quan-zhen-jiao and
its related sects like Wu-dang, Tian-shan, Kun-lung, etc. The
priests could be male or female, but they must be monks and nuns, and
live in monasteries or live as hermits.
Quan-zhen is the predominat in N China, and it also has strong
influence in S China as well. The Inner Martial Art Schools are the
Xiaowen Li
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In article <930903131...@thames.bu.edu> l...@crsa.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
>Yi Guan Dao was a follow-up of Bai Lian Jiao, Boxer. No wonder it started
>from ShanDong.
The Boxers is NOT Bai-lian-jiao.
The Boxers had VERY different structure of the organization from
Bai-lian-jiao. Besides, the Boxers killed more Bai-lian-jiao than
they killed Christians.
==================================
You are right that The Boxers is NOT Bai-lian-jiao. I meant there are some
follow-up relation among the three: Bai Lian Jia --> Boxer --> YGD. Of
course Boxer inherited 8-Gua Jiao also, All these kind of "Guai Li Nuan Shen"
just get anything convenient for fooling people.
HAKKIM WONG
>from ShanDong.
HAKKIM WONG
>Of course Boxer inherited 8-Gua Jiao also,All these kind of "Guai Li Nuan Shen"
>just get anything convenient for fooling people.
I am not sure about Boxer and 8-Gua-jiao, though.
Well, they are part of the Jiao-Meng, that is for sure
David Tong
>From CND-Global 93-09-04:
>"[UPI, 1/9/93] BEIJING - Police in Xiamen City in Fujian province has
>deported three Taiwanese Buddhist priests, members of a secretive Buddhist
>sect, and accused them of illegally establishing temples and recruiting
>followers, official media reported Wednesday. The Taiwanese priests
>belong to the 'Yi Guan Dao' sect, which was banned in Taiwan until 1987,
>out of fear it could become a secret society outside government control.
>CNS said two priests plus an undisclosed number of followers entered China
>twice this year to set up 12 temporary temples in the Fujian province.
>(Forwarded by: A CND Reader)
> ___ End quote ___
If you're talking about Yi (one) Guan (through) Dao (way)...
Yi Guan Dao is a cult, and should be avoided at ALL COST!
Amongst other things, they preach:
1) Chinese is the Master Race, and that gods are Chinese.
2) People must be strict vegetarians. i.e. if a product is manufactured
using animals parts, then it should be avoided too.
3) People must wear only white and grey and boring colours. Red,
purple and other "bright" colours should be avoided.
4) People should pray for 2 hours every morning, every noon, and every
afternoon.
5) People should spend all their time preaching the dao, rather than
go to work.
6) It also practised inviting (evil) spirits to come into human bodies.
7) etc, etc, etc
>Several relevant comments/questions:
>1. Yi Guan Dao (YGD) florished in northern part of China esp during the
>anti-Japanese period. The followers were believed to be helping the
>Japanese in China in maitaining ruling.
Never heard of this.
>2. Most memebers of YGD were either executed or put into jail by the
>Communist in the late 1940's and early 1950's. For some mysterious
>reasons, the Chinese Communist party hated the YGD to the bones.
Yi Guan Dao is contradictory to Chinese culture, it destroys productivity
of humans, and preaches narcist ideals. If allowed to spread, it has
the potential to destroy an established society.
>3. I don't know Ku-min-tang's consistent policy against YGD. This report
>informed us that YGD was banned in Taiwan before 1987. Then why the ban was
>was removed? Could more informed netters tell us some background knowledge
>about Taiwan's YGD and its developments around 1987?
They left Taiwan, and established themselves in USA. It became huge
in California, and later went back to Taiwan (and Hong Kong), and I
believe (last time I went to Taipei Historic Mesuem) it's now top 10
religion in Taiwan.
>4. The founder of YGD was a peasant from Shandong province. I don't
>remember the exact story of its founding in the early time of this
>century. It was in Beijing. Something related with sex. An early believer
>devoted his young daughter to the founder of YGD for "sacred purposes", --
>much like David Krash in Wico Texas.
The "mother goddess" lived from late Qing to just before the 1911
Revolutoin. There is NO sexual content in this cult.
>5. This report says that YGD is a branch of Buddahism. I am afraid it's
>not accurate. I thought it was remotely related to Taoism rather than
>Buddahism. Reasons:
>1). Dao (in YGD) usually has something with Taoism.
>2). Taoism rather than Buddahism were notorious in indulging in sex.
>Expert in this area please advise us.
No, it preaches that ALL religions in the world actually worships the
same God (the Chinese God), that's why it's called "Yi Guan". Since
it worships Buddhist gods more often than other gods, it's seen as a
Buddhist "cult".
>6. To my knowledge, no or very few serious studies was done about YGD though
>it's very influential in China's history. I remember Josoph Needham (Li
>Yue-se), the famous British historian in China's science and technology,
>slightly mentioned this subject in one of his multi-volume books on Taoism.
>His knowledge was also very restricted. But he pointed out this religion's
>sex content. I had a personal relative who believed YGD in 1940's. She
>decided not to marry for her belief in YGD. Her personal life was very sad
>in "New China", -- after long time jail, she was forced to marry a man
>afterward at the age of 50's.
There is NO sexual content in this religion.
I first saw this religion when I was visiting USA, and then, I saw it
again when I visited Taipei. This is a cult, and I ask people to avoid
it at all cost!
We should praise the Chinese government's effort in wiping out this
cult; because it has a huge potential to destroy any society it goes
to.
Chuck Kay Hon
>No, it preaches that ALL religions in the world actually worships the
>same God (the Chinese God), that's why it's called "Yi Guan". Since
>it worships Buddhist gods more often than other gods, it's seen as a
>Buddhist "cult".
'Mo(nothing) Kit(extreme) Lo(old) Mo(mother)' is their highest-rank goddness
who created the world and human being. But this goddness is never mentioned
in other religions' books because this goddness was invented by the YGD. They
don't have authoritative books, like Bible, so that every followers can refer
to. Their books are written by their priests, the contents of these books
are just a mix of Budda and Taoism ideas, but their books tend to mislead the
readers, so from Christian and Buddism etc. point of view, these books
are harmful and so as the YGD. They seldom ask their followers to read
Bible, Buddism, Taoism and Mulsim books although they believe these five
religions, because once their followers know the TRUTH, they won't agree with
what their priest pearch.
It is difficult to ask the YGD followers to leave the YGD, I think the best
thing to do is to urge them to read formal religion books like Bible and
Q'uran(sp ? ) or Buddism books.
>There is NO sexual content in this religion.
According to some of the ex-followers, there is no sexual content in this
religion.
>
>I first saw this religion when I was visiting USA, and then, I saw it
>again when I visited Taipei. This is a cult, and I ask people to avoid
>it at all cost!
>
>We should praise the Chinese government's effort in wiping out this
>cult; because it has a huge potential to destroy any society it goes
>to.
>
yes.
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>
>Amongst other things, they preach:
>
>1) Chinese is the Master Race, and that gods are Chinese.
Jewish religion has a similar belief (i.e., Jews are the chosen people).
>2) People must be strict vegetarians. i.e. if a product is manufactured
>using animals parts, then it should be avoided too.
Many other religions also forbid killing, direct or indirect.
>3) People must wear only white and grey and boring colours. Red,
>purple and other "bright" colours should be avoided.
Islamic women obey more strict regulations for the color of wearing.
>4) People should pray for 2 hours every morning, every noon, and every
>afternoon.
Sounds similar to Islamic rules.
>5) People should spend all their time preaching the dao, rather than
>go to work.
If they don't work, what do they eat?
By the way, Buddist monks and Christian preachers fit you description
in (5).
>6) It also practised inviting (evil) spirits to come into human bodies.
How do you judge a spirit to be evil? Many other religions also
do the spirit invitation.
>7) etc, etc, etc
YGD may have something wrong, but your points are not persuasive
enough. To me, you might have religious bias.
Tienyo Pan (a Christian)
eric.wu
>
Comments on YGD deleted.
>>
>>We should praise the Chinese government's effort in wiping out this
>>cult; because it has a huge potential to destroy any society it goes
>>to.
>>
>
>yes.
Not so quick please. I got nervous everytime we look forward to
government to police something.
If our government is run by God, I might consider letting it tell
me what is good and what is bad. Even in such case, it would have
a hard time arguing with other gods that some of them are not good
for the people. We may have wars of gods. (Is it time fore some
new mythology?)
At this moment I settle for you telling me what is good and what
is bad because I can always decide it myself. More importantly,
if my decision is against your wish, the consequence is less
threatening.
Eric
Yuk Lun Chan
>>5) People should spend all their time preaching the dao, rather than
>>go to work.
>If they don't work, what do they eat?
>By the way, Buddist monks and Christian preachers fit you description
>in (5).
Correction of fact: Buddist monks or DaoSze do grow their own food in most
case. Only the monks of those rich temples can live on the supplies by
the followers.
BTW, does Yi Guan Dao look like Pai (white) Lin (lotus) Gau (religion).
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> 1. Yi Guan Dao (YGD) florished in northern part of China esp during the
> anti-Japanese period. The followers were believed to be helping the
Reply： No, according to what i ve heard from some descendants of the devoted believers during those times, followers, esp those devoted ones, were doing their best to avoid both China and Japanese army because both were planning to eradicate YGD due to their increasing popularity in china.
> 2. Most memebers of YGD were either executed or put into jail by the
> Communist in the late 1940's and early 1950's. For some mysterious
> reasons, the Chinese Communist party hated the YGD to the bones.
> 3. I don't know Ku-min-tang's consistent policy against YGD. This report
> informed us that YGD was banned in Taiwan before 1987. Then why the ban was
> was removed? Could more informed netters tell us some background knowledge
> about Taiwan's YGD and its developments around 1987?
> 4. The founder of YGD was a peasant from Shandong province. I don't
> remember the exact story of its founding in the early time of this
> century. It was in Beijing. Something related with sex. An early believer
> devoted his young daughter to the founder of YGD for "sacred purposes", --
> much like David Krash in Wico Texas.
> not accurate. I thought it was remotely related to Taoism rather than
> Buddahism. Reasons:
>
> 1). Dao (in YGD) usually has something with Taoism.
> 2). Taoism rather than Buddahism were notorious in indulging in sex.
> Expert in this area please advise us.
> 6. To my knowledge, no or very few serious studies was done about YGD though
> it's very influential in China's history. I remember Josoph Needham (Li
> Yue-se), the famous British historian in China's science and technology,
> slightly mentioned this subject in one of his multi-volume books on Taoism.
>
> His knowledge was also very restricted. But he pointed out this religion's
> sex content. I had a personal relative who believed YGD in 1940's. She
> decided not to marry for her belief in YGD. Her personal life was very sad
> in "New China", -- after long time jail, she was forced to marry a man
> afterward at the age of 50's.
Side note: Speaking from my personal experience and humble opinion(which of course may not be the same for everyone who experience YGD through different places and people), i dont think they advocate being a vegetarian so much to an extent that they condemn their believers if they are eating meat. And they do not tell people that Chinese is the master race, however they do mention that YGD originates from the Chinese and it is lucky that the believers are born chinese because it would be harder for them to enter and even hear about YGD as there would be communication barrier during preaching. And according to them, not many of the believers who have better command of English took the effort to preach in English, that explains why the YGD still mainly runs among the chinese race. Also, YGD encourages having a personal life and cultivating at the same time. They believe that cultivating best takes place in their daily lives where they face many different problems( be it relationships, work, studies, etc etc). Also, it does NOT practice evil spirit possessing the body nowadays. Note that many of them used to practice that as they believe by having the evil spirits telling their suffering to the believers would lead the believers to have a stronger belief about souls and spirit and the importance of doing good and not offending others in life.