American free press = American dumb press? Example from NYTimes.
ltl...@hotmail.com
"HOW THE NEWS MAKE US DUMB." He argued that American press is making
Americans dumb. Sommerville's approach is analytical. He did not
provide objective evidence that Americans are indeed dumb and/or
misinformed because of hte news.
American pollster Andrew Kohut, however, provided the evidence. In his
book "AMERICA AGAINST THE WORLD: How We Are Different And Why We Are
Disliked, he found that poll data indicated that Americans have a
disconnect of a major order. For example,"most people around the world
believe that America ignores their interests in making foreign policy,
yet 67 percent of Americans feels that the United States pays
attention ot the interests of other countries..." Yet Andrew Kohut did
not answer the qeustion why?
NYTimes coverage on the recent Shangri-La Dialogue shows why American
are disconnected from the rest of the world and from the reality.
In short, American govoernment promotes China Threat. It takes every
opportunity to
paint China's rise as a military theat to the world. During the
Shangri-La conference, America's China Threat theory was rebuffed
openly by Singapore's Prime Minster representing the mjority of Asian
nations in front of an international crowd of high
ranking officials. The following is from a Turkish paper:
http://www.anatoliantimes.com/hbr2.asp?id=&s=int&a=070601152318.3xlzl76g
"In a speech opening the Shangri-La Dialogue, Lee Hsien Loong also
urged the United States to stay the course in Iraq and warned of the
serious, long-term implications of global climate change.
Lee said Asia enjoys "warm ties" with China, which continues to
emphasise peaceful emergence and international integration.
"America and Japan have expressed concerns over China's military build-
up, and seek more information on China's defence spending and
intentions," Lee said.
"But most Asian countries assess the challenge from China to be more
economic than military."
Yet, the so called "Queen of American Free Press" failed to report the
Prime Minister's remark. The NYT's electronic edition has 4 entries on
"Shangri-La" on June 1st and 2nd.
Three articles are from Reuters and one from AP. None of them contains
Lee Hsien Loong statement emphasizing China is not considered a
military threat Is a major disagreement between America and a large
number of Asian countries not news worth
reporting? Of course, the news are significant. In fact, the rebuff is
significant in two ways. First, there is a major difference on whether
China is a military threat. Secondly, America's widely promoted view
is rebuffed openly and unceremonially by a tiny nation in front of an
international audience of high ranking officials. Yet, the New York
Times chooses not to report it.
Emeritus Professor Falk at the Princeton University, and the co-author
of "THE RECORD OF THE PAPER: How the New York Times Reports U.S.
Foreign Policy" , had once said,
"If one lived in Soviet Union and read the Pavda, it would be easy
for him to read between the lines and understood what the reality was.
But if you are in the United
States reading the New York Times, it would require a very sophicated
person to understand where the manipulation was and where the real
news." But sophiscated
readers may also have no chance in knowing the reality outside of
America.
Is American free press = American dumbing down press?
mcs
a trap
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rst0wxyz
> American professor Sommerville had written a book with the title of
> "HOW THE NEWS MAKE US DUMB." He argued that American press is making
> Americans dumb.
Non-sense. The American press is skewed to make America the shining
example to follow. In a way, the American press is the biggest
propagenda machinery in the world. It's job is to demonized the rest
of the world, and praise America as the goodness and godly example to
follow.
> Sommerville's approach is analytical. He did not
> provide objective evidence that Americans are indeed dumb and/or
> misinformed because of hte news.
>
> American pollster Andrew Kohut, however, provided the evidence. In his
> book "AMERICA AGAINST THE WORLD: How We Are Different And Why We Are
> Disliked, he found that poll data indicated that Americans have a
> disconnect of a major order. For example,"most people around the world
> believe that America ignores their interests in making foreign policy,
> yet 67 percent of Americans feels that the United States pays
> attention ot the interests of other countries..." Yet Andrew Kohut did
> not answer the qeustion why?
Do you need an answer? Just look at the Middle East problem. Israel
can do no wrong. It's always the Palestinians that cause the trouble.
>
> NYTimes coverage on the recent Shangri-La Dialogue shows why American
> are disconnected from the rest of the world and from the reality.
>
> In short, American govoernment promotes China Threat. It takes every
> opportunity to
> paint China's rise as a military theat to the world.
It's a threat to America. America must look out for America's
interest, and no one else's.
> During the
> Shangri-La conference, America's China Threat theory was rebuffed
> openly by Singapore's Prime Minster representing the mjority of Asian
> nations in front of an international crowd of high
> ranking officials. The following is from a Turkish paper:
>
> http://www.anatoliantimes.com/hbr2.asp?id=&s=int&a=070601152318.3xlzl76g
>
> "In a speech opening the Shangri-La Dialogue, Lee Hsien Loong also
> urged the United States to stay the course in Iraq and warned of the
> serious, long-term implications of global climate change.
>
> Lee said Asia enjoys "warm ties" with China, which continues to
> emphasise peaceful emergence and international integration.
>
> "America and Japan have expressed concerns over China's military build-
> up,
Japan is America's patsy. Japan will do whatever America say.
> and seek more information on China's defence spending and
> intentions," Lee said.
The biggest defense is knowing the enemy well.
>
> "But most Asian countries assess the challenge from China to be more
> economic than military."
>
> Yet, the so called "Queen of American Free Press" failed to report the
> Prime Minister's remark. The NYT's electronic edition has 4 entries on
> "Shangri-La" on June 1st and 2nd.
Because it didn't serve America's interest.
> Three articles are from Reuters and one from AP. None of them contains
> Lee Hsien Loong statement emphasizing China is not considered a
> military threat Is a major disagreement between America and a large
> number of Asian countries not news worth
> reporting?
No, because it didn't serve America's interest.
> Of course, the news are significant. In fact, the rebuff is
> significant in two ways. First, there is a major difference on whether
> China is a military threat. Secondly, America's widely promoted view
> is rebuffed openly and unceremonially by a tiny nation in front of an
> international audience of high ranking officials. Yet, the New York
> Times chooses not to report it.
>
> Emeritus Professor Falk at the Princeton University, and the co-author
> of "THE RECORD OF THE PAPER: How the New York Times Reports U.S.
> Foreign Policy" , had once said,
> "If one lived in Soviet Union and read the Pavda, it would be easy
> for him to read between the lines and understood what the reality was.
> But if you are in the United
> States reading the New York Times, it would require a very sophicated
> person to understand where the manipulation was and where the real
> news." But sophiscated
> readers may also have no chance in knowing the reality outside of
> America.
Now, you know why America is hated throughout the world. We are a
self-centered nation. We are only concerned about ourself, no one
else.
>
> Is American free press = American dumbing down press?
No, American press serves the interest of America, and nowhere else.
American press is the biggest government propagenda machinery in the
world. It's job is to glorify America.
spammer
propaganda machine. The US doesn't have the corner on this market.
The same exact thing can be said of every country you've mentioned and
the same for countries you haven't.
ltl...@hotmail.com
To be sure, no country is perfect. However, America and many Americans
like to see themselves as "the city on the hill." It/they want other
counries to follow American way and/or remake other countries into
America's image. But then, America needs to demonstrate itself as the
shinning on the hill. Not a bunch of disconnected people dumbed down
and misled evry which way possible.
The promise of the free press is that the press will upgrade the
quality of the citizens and informed citizens will in return demand
high quality press. However, this is not the case. Rather the free
press contributes to or the main force behind the downward spiral:
poor and biased press coverages lead to dumbed down citizens who in
term accept ever lower quality press.
spammer
>
> To be sure, no country is perfect. However, America and many Americans
> like to see themselves as "the city on the hill." It/they want other
> counries to follow American way and/or remake other countries into
> America's image. But then, America needs to demonstrate itself as the
> shinning on the hill. Not a bunch of disconnected people dumbed down
> and misled evry which way possible.
That's funny, every country likes to portray themselves as the "city
on the hill". The above post still applies to every country.
>
> The promise of the free press is that the press will upgrade the
> quality of the citizens and informed citizens will in return demand
> high quality press. However, this is not the case. Rather the free
> press contributes to or the main force behind the downward spiral:
> poor and biased press coverages lead to dumbed down citizens who in
> term accept ever lower quality press.
To have a free press is to decide for onself what's to be believed.
Don't blame the press for people's idiocy. Long before there was a
press people were idiots.
ltl...@hotmail.com
> On Jun 2, 12:36 pm, "ltl...@hotmail.com" <ltl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > To be sure, no country is perfect. However, America and many Americans
> > like to see themselves as "the city on the hill." It/they want other
> > counries to follow American way and/or remake other countries into
> > America's image. But then, America needs to demonstrate itself as the
> > shinning on the hill. Not a bunch of disconnected people dumbed down
> > and misled evry which way possible.
>
> That's funny, every country likes to portray themselves as the "city
> on the hill". The above post still applies to every country.
What other country demand America and etc to follow its path?
For instance, China does not say America must have political reform.
Can you say the same about America? Does America not saying China
needs to have political reform?
>
>
>
> > The promise of the free press is that the press will upgrade the
> > quality of the citizens and informed citizens will in return demand
> > high quality press. However, this is not the case. Rather the free
> > press contributes to or the main force behind the downward spiral:
> > poor and biased press coverages lead to dumbed down citizens who in
> > term accept ever lower quality press.
>
> To have a free press is to decide for onself what's to be believed.
> Don't blame the press for people's idiocy. Long before there was a
> press people were idiots.
Do you think NYT not reporting the rebuff by Singapore's Prime
Minister over
America's China threat theory the right way to report the issue?
spammer
>
> What other country demand America and etc to follow its path?
> For instance, China does not say America must have political reform.
> Can you say the same about America? Does America not saying China
> needs to have political reform?
Simple answer: they don't have to listen to any demands.
>
> Do you think NYT not reporting the rebuff by Singapore's Prime
> Minister over
> America's China threat theory the right way to report the issue?
The NYT is a rag. They have never published a story that isn't slanted
towards an agenda. The only use for NYT is for the bottom of a bird
cage.
PaPaPeng
>Is American free press = American dumbing down press?
This is a consequence of trhe consolidation of media ownership of the
newspapers, news magazines, the TV and radio stations and other
sources of news delivery. No journalist dares to be too independent
and certainly his editors do not dare to offend the advertizers. The
advertizers of course dare not go against the prevailing [p8ublic
opinion no matter how unjustified that opinion is. Think christian
fundamentalism, abortion, race, gay rights and the subjects that the
newspapers avoid unless some public figure says something that they
can report without taking a stand. People, and not only Americans
receive their news from TV sound bites these days and few if any ever
read thoughtful articles on anything.
ltl...@hotmail.com
> On Jun 2, 12:57 pm, "ltl...@hotmail.com" <ltl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > What other country demand America and etc to follow its path?
> > For instance, China does not say America must have political reform.
> > Can you say the same about America? Does America not saying China
> > needs to have political reform?
>
> Simple answer: they don't have to listen to any demands.
The issue is not whether other countries like China have to listen to.
The issue is wether America is peculiar in making the demand and
whether
America and Americans are having the illusion that America is indeed
"a
shinny city on the hill."
> > Do you think NYT not reporting the rebuff by Singapore's Prime
> > Minister over
> > America's China threat theory the right way to report the issue?
>
> The NYT is a rag. They have never published a story that isn't slanted
> towards an agenda. The only use for NYT is for the bottom of a bird
> cage.
Why is NYT such a rag?
Or do you mean all American press are similar rags?
In addition, don't you see such reportings, beiseding dumbing donw
American citizens, is eroding American power, as well as huring
humanity.
ltl...@hotmail.com
Good point.
The focus of the 4 articles, two of them are basically identical, are
still
about China threat. The miltitary industrial complex would certaintly
benefit
from China threat.
spammer
>
> > The NYT is a rag. They have never published a story that isn't slanted
> > towards an agenda. The only use for NYT is for the bottom of a bird
> > cage.
>
> Why is NYT such a rag?
> Or do you mean all American press are similar rags?
> In addition, don't you see such reportings, beiseding dumbing donw
> American citizens, is eroding American power, as well as huring
> humanity.
Please don't put words in my mouth. I said THE NEW YORK TIMES IS A
RAG. I did NOT say that all American press are similar rags.
If anyone is dumbed down by the press, then it's their own damn fault.
There is way too much "victim" mentality all over the world.
spammer
>
>
>>
> You're so fucking dumbed down by propaganda, you don't even know it.
>
> --
Oh yeah, that must be it. I bet you see gollywoggles under your bed
too.
fyf...@gmail.com
Agreed...but the difference is that not many people in the world trust
what their givernment say while in the US many think they are the
holders of truth propagated by the American news medium.
spammer
I don't know if you live in the US, but you'd be surprised how many
people here don't believe a word our gov't or press says.
JianZeMin is a Jap bastard
of course, to corrupt officials and foreign economic invaders, USA is
too bad. this is the point of view of communists' dogs !!!!!
rst0wxyz wrote:
> On Jun 2, 8:09 am, "ltl...@hotmail.com" <ltl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>American professor Sommerville had written a book with the title of
>>"HOW THE NEWS MAKE US DUMB." He argued that American press is making
>>Americans dumb.
>
>
> Non-sense. The American press is skewed to make America the shining
> example to follow. In a way, the American press is the biggest
> propagenda machinery in the world. It's job is to demonized the rest
> of the world, and praise America as the goodness and godly example to
> follow.
>
>
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JianZeMin is a Jap bastard
by controlling the media tight !!!!
that is why such dogs are too plain thick !!!!
spammer wrote:
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JianZeMin is a Jap bastard
all points of view constitutes 'high quality'.
'high quality' is not just PRC's tight control over media to confine to
its "upgrade" of squeezing mainlanders to bones !!!
communists' dog got soul sold to abide to PRC's "ONLY IT TALKS",
that is all such attack to free press !!!!!
ltl...@hotmail.com wrote:
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JianZeMin is a Jap bastard
> On Jun 2, 12:43 pm, spammer <sereb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jun 2, 12:36 pm, "ltl...@hotmail.com" <ltl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>To be sure, no country is perfect. However, America and many Americans
>>>like to see themselves as "the city on the hill." It/they want other
>>>counries to follow American way and/or remake other countries into
>>>America's image. But then, America needs to demonstrate itself as the
>>>shinning on the hill. Not a bunch of disconnected people dumbed down
>>>and misled evry which way possible.
>>
>>That's funny, every country likes to portray themselves as the "city
>>on the hill". The above post still applies to every country.
>
>
> What other country demand America and etc to follow its path?
> For instance, China does not say America must have political reform.
> Can you say the same about America? Does America not saying China
> needs to have political reform?
>
these communists' dogs are just doing the job to demand reform from USA
to fit such dogs !!!
other countries, seeing the economy of USA in such high-hill to
citizens, will not be as shamelessly as such dogs to yell only !!!!!
>
>>
>>
>>>The promise of the free press is that the press will upgrade the
>>>quality of the citizens and informed citizens will in return demand
>>>high quality press. However, this is not the case. Rather the free
>>>press contributes to or the main force behind the downward spiral:
>>>poor and biased press coverages lead to dumbed down citizens who in
>>>term accept ever lower quality press.
>>
>>To have a free press is to decide for onself what's to be believed.
>>Don't blame the press for people's idiocy. Long before there was a
>>press people were idiots.
>
>
> Do you think NYT not reporting the rebuff by Singapore's Prime
> Minister over
> America's China threat theory the right way to report the issue?
>
>
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JianZeMin is a Jap bastard
this communists' dog PaPaPeng confess such consolidation's evilness !!!!
every netter can then see how evil is PRC's FULL consolidation of media
ownership !!!!!!
communists' dog , before you challenge others, take a look to your
master !!!!!
PaPaPeng wrote:
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rst0wxyz
> such communists' dogs are accustomed to 'ONLY IT TALKS, NO OTHERS TALK',
> by controlling the media tight !!!!
> that is why such dogs are too plain thick !!!!
Speak English, lecher dog. No one understand your Chinglish.
>
> spammer wrote:
> > Are all you people just plain thick? Every country is it's own
> > propaganda machine. The US doesn't have the corner on this market.
> > The same exact thing can be said of every country you've mentioned and
> > the same for countries you haven't.
>
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rst0wxyz
> to citizens, in comparing to PRC, USA is really godly example.
Didn't you know, lecher dog, only money talk in the U.S.A. No money,
no talk. When you have no money, the U.S.A. is just as bad as any
other.
> of course, to corrupt officials and foreign economic invaders, USA is
> too bad. this is the point of view of communists' dogs !!!!!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, lecher dog worships the U.S. like a god.
Only the U.S.A. don't want any part of lecher dog. lecher dog would
be treated like a terrorist if he lands on the U.S.
>
fyf...@gmail.com
I lived in the US during the Vietnam War era. That was the time they
began to wake up to the fact that many things shown in Hollywood
movies were not true.
Roger
Too many Americans want to be scared about things that aren't scary and
ignore things that are.
That's what we get.
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