**How come you are always so dumb?60k can do what?Is it enough to pay
for the rental of those Halls?
You mean to tell me that Churches do not need to meet
overheads,ect.ect??Clearly you came from a green eyed monster family.
The Islamic collections here is unmatched from any donations received
from the public,and the Buddhists collections overwhelmed the
Christian groups ten times over.Have you ever cry foul?
Why must you prove yourself to be a dummy all the while?
Very humble of you, is that what you learn in Church?
> **How come you are always so dumb?60k can do what?Is it enough to payfor
> the rental of those Halls?You mean to tell me that Churches do not need to
> meetoverheads,ect.ect??Clearly you came from a green eyed monster
> family.The Islamiccollections here is unmatched from any donations
> receivedfrom the public,and the Buddhists collectionsoverwhelmed
> theChristian groups ten times over.Have you ever cry foul?Why must you
> prove yourself to be a dummy all the while?
You are a Yiow Siew Kia of Jesus Cries.
I mentioned $2 as a conservative figures. Some blind and dumb follwers and
christian "richtard" are dumping $10s and $50s dollars into those money bags
passing around. I can tell you that on average, the collection from a single
church attendance can amount to more than $100,000. Praise the lord and
praise jesus cries and those church event organizers and pastor are laughing
their way to the bank every weekend.
***How can anyone laugh their way?You think in Singapore you need no
proper accounting,and watchers of accounting firms not employed to
safeguard misuse?
You speak from the platform of a dumb fool.
***Wow!You are so stupid and behave like an idiot,or must I say that
you learn it from your parents?
Isn't such a response you want from me?
---Very humble of you, is that what you learn in Church?
Yiow siew kia of Alex must have learn from your parents right?Then why
aren't you asking him where he learn that from?
Must be you nuts show yourself as stupid before me?
LOL!!! Wahlau eh Freakie...how come you know Islamic collections and
Buddhist collections are more than 10 times over those Christian
groups' collections? Did you do a research on this?
Please give us the dollar breakdown of Buddhist collections vs Islamic
collections vs Christian collections. Can or not?
Also, to ensure that you dont compare apples with oranges, please
define what you mean by islamic, buddhist and christian groups'
collections? Are you referring to collections at islamic, buddhist,
x'tian community level? Or are you comparing mosque vs temple vs
church level?
If you fail to substantiate your claims here, please dont cry foul if
others accused you of committing foul.
ROTFLOLMAO!!!
Is Church the place where you learn how to speak like this? I am
impressed with what you learn in Church, very good manners.
Tithe or "10% income tax" is said to come from dhe Old Testamen (bible
of dhe Jewels). However, in dhe Old Testamen, dhe "10% income tax" was
meant for the Levi. not the jeans, but dhe priest tribe. dhese people
do not own land. so dhat's why dhe odher 11 tribes, who have land, must
contribute dhe "10% income tax" for dhese people.
if nowsaday, a paster want to have "10% income tax", dhen follow Old
Testamen principle, he should not own property, car, ... etc.
but nowsaday many pastor own land, house, car, _and_ still collec "10%
income tax", say it's for God. (it's for pastor himself lah!) whoa!
see peh ho tan ah! if i know earlier, i also become pastor.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/5a1bccae898f893a?hl=en
On the 17th of March, 2011, when asked to show where the passage "the
Bible says that the devils is in control now because our ancestors
sold it to him" is found in the Bible, you wrote:
"Reply: 2 corinthian 4;4.
How did Satan became the god of this world,if our ancestor not sold it
to him?Adam was to reign over this world,and earth since the creation
morning. What has been a common knowledge in Christendom and yet I
have to show it to you.This is terrible for someone so ignorant like
you,and even dare to ask for quotation of the verses".
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/84d4a4377c597706?hl=en
4 minutes later on the same day, the 17th of March, 2011, you added:
"It was Jesus who said,"I go to prepare a mansion for you",and I cling
on that and believe in Him.How can that be naive,where I can produce
billions of witnesses since time memorial?
Why do you deem that as naive?Or rather are you not gullible to the
core to have made that silly statements?
Honestly,I feel you are too gullible,not knowing your destiny,and not
understanding issues about eternity,and life after death.You don't
occur to me as someone intelligent".
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/4bf3e4678ef435cd?hl=en
Frankly, Frankie Lee, I don't give a damn about how I "occur" to you.
2 corinthian 4;4 did not say ""The Bible says that the devils is in
control now because our ancestors sold it to him", the way you
claimed. It says, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the
minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel
of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them".
So, you think you are very Intelligent do you, Frankie Lee? Have you
ever given any thought as to who compiled the Bible and why, instead
of cowering in a corner and shout "Jesus said", or "God said"?
Did you know that it was Emperor Constantine in 325 AD who ordered his
hand-picked bishops to decide which books to include to subjugate the
people and to put fear into their hearts so he can keep his power and
wealth and strengthen the Roman Empire? The books were written by
Middle Eastern men who vaguely remembered what they went through, NOT
by God, and they were carefully re-written and manipulated in Latin so
the uneducated people (like yourself) can only understand what those
people in power wanted them to believe.
Your infantile comprehension of the Bible and your bad English,
coupled with your personal ignorance, stupidity, and superstition,
have made you into a down-right idiot. You are lying! You are lying
about God and about the Bible. You have sinned against God's Ten
Commandments and you will be punished in Hell, Frankie Lee! Any time
now.
When Frankie gets angry with others , he is already a devil worshiper.
he is controlled by devil.
> On the 17th of March, 2011, when asked to show where the passage "the
> Bible says that the devils is in control now because our ancestors
> sold it to him" is found in the Bible, you wrote:
> "Reply: 2 corinthian 4;4.
> How did Satan became the god of this world,if our ancestor not sold it
> to him?Adam was to reign over this world,and earth since the creation
> morning. What has been a common knowledge in Christendom and yet I
> have to show it to you.This is terrible for someone so ignorant like
> you,and even dare to ask for quotation of the verses".
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/84d4a4377c597706...
>
> 4 minutes later on the same day, the 17th of March, 2011, you added:
> "It was Jesus who said,"I go to prepare a mansion for you",and I cling
> on that and believe in Him.How can that be naive,where I can produce
> billions of witnesses since time memorial?
> Why do you deem that as naive?Or rather are you not gullible to the
> core to have made that silly statements?
> Honestly,I feel you are too gullible,not knowing your destiny,and not
> understanding issues about eternity,and life after death.You don't
> occur to me as someone intelligent".
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/4bf3e4678ef435cd...
That goes without saying - he uses Jesus and the Bible as a means to
cover up for his ignorance, stupidity, and insecurity complex. The
irony of these so-called "Christians" is that they would swear they
love Jesus and God and that they live only to go to Heaven to be with
Jesus and God, and yet they are so scared to die to go to Heaven to be
with Jesus and God. They even pray and beg Jesus and God to protect
them from death.
Frankie Lee has committed mortal sins against God, and he will be
punished in Hell very soon - any time now.
Jesus tell them to love their enemies, so here is Frankie calling
others stupid. They started inquisition, that is how they love
everyone.
A great many horrible atrocities were committed throughout history in
the name of God, by ignorant people in power who were convinced they
were doing God's work. However, many wonderful acts of humanity were
also carried out in the name of God, and if we were to compare the
good with the bad, the good fortunately outweighs the bad by far,
specially in modern times, when Christianity has evolved to its
present state. Not so however, with Islam, which doesn't seem to be
able to evolve from its Medieval stages. The only way to combat Islam
is to build a stronger idealism, and Christianity seems to be the only
available candidate, so we must allow Christianity to grow alongside
Judaism as a bulwark against the primitive Islam - as a means to save
Mankind.
***Here you are trying to teach morals,and yet at the same time throws
evil and sinister accusations,that can be only understood from the pit
of Hell,alas,you are so blind to your slanders that you won't be able
to decipher your own foul words.
***List me one mortal sin I have committed,will you?You are so
teribbly dumb and act like a fool before me.
If people are convinced that Death meant happiness,who would fear?
And,death is a also a separation from loved ones,and the opportunity
to save fellow human from Hell.
Why do you think I should be punish in Hell very soon?I know how I
conduct my life,my integrity,my walk with God,and I know I am made
righteous by Jesus,truly have repented my sins.So I know I am on my
way to Heaven or if I drop dead now.I have the most wonderful
assurance greater than any Christians in this world,for I hear God's
voice and He speak to me.
I know I am saved because I have Jesus as my saviour,and I know I have
passed from death to life by my genuine love of my fellow brethren,and
love for the lost souls.I always live a rightoeus and clean
live,though not perfect,nevertheless all my sins are washed,but what
about yours?Touch your heart,it is you who are going to Hell,and had
live an anguish life,not knowing how to see the truths from lies.
Unless you repent,othewise greater misery shall fall on you.I am a man
of God,and I don't utter rubbish to you.
***If you are really stupid,and I name it for you,that is telling the
truth,and speaking truths is a noble thing to do.You being stupid,and
yet I pat your shoulders trying to make hypocritical statements for
advantage,isn't that
"the kiss of death"?
***Who told you such ridiculous and nonsense,that I being
"angry"meaning I am a devil worshipper?What kind of brains and
mentality,or Education you came from?You made a laughing stock by
being so obnoxious and stupid,and you deliberately made stupid
statements so that others can see your hollowness,right?
Be ye angry but not sin not..It is my right to be angry at idiots and
nuts like you,who had no sense of simple decency and clean thought,but
linger on with lies of the devils perpetrating here.
I always love my enemies,but that doesn't mean I condone and let them
have their evil works to be spread around.Now which part of agape love
you don't understand?
***From now on,don't call yourself as a wise guy,because there is no
wisdom at all from your posts,nor is there one I can say you did well.
Let me teach you some wisdom.
It is compulsory for all Muslims to contribute to Mendaki Fund.You got
it?
The Buddhists are in the majority,and their converts overwhelmed the
Christians many fold.
Are you saying I need to do mental caculation of gymnastic for you?
There are proper accounting in the Christian Churches,and do you think
it is a slander if I say there are none for other's religion?Is there
vagueness in the accounting books of Temples also?
LOL!!!
Translation: Freakie to wiseguy: "I have ssssnake oil juz for you.
Wanna buy? Dont worry, u can trusssstt meeee...."
LOL!!!
> It is compulsory for all Muslims to contribute to Mendaki Fund.You got
> it?
> The Buddhists are in the majority,and their converts overwhelmed the
> Christians many fold.
LOL!!! Under the AMLA Act, the Muslims here contribute up to a hefty
maximum of $16 per head. Now compare that to the 10% of your salary
deduction collected in juz ONE church.
Going further, if ALL 500,000 muslims (assuming earning salary $4K/
mth) contribute at the max rate of $16/head, the Mosque Building &
Mendaki Fund stands to collect about $8 million per month. Whereas, if
all 30,000 members of that church (assuming earning salary $4K/mth)
contribute 10% of their salary, that ONE church stands to collect $12
million per month!
Howz that?!! ONE church collecting $12M vs half a million people
collecting $8M, only half of which, goes to 20+ mosques? At that rate,
that ONE church is collecting, I dont think the Buddhist community can
oso match even though they have twice the number of adherents.
So Freakie how? You want try this again?
LOL!!!
> Are you saying I need to do mental caculation of gymnastic for you?
LOL!!! All along, you have been performing gravity-defying, out-of-
this world, mental gymnastics, over juz about everything.
LOL!!!
> There are proper accounting in the Christian Churches,and do you think
> it is a slander if I say there are none for other's religion?Is there
> vagueness in the accounting books of Temples also?- Hide quoted text -
LOL!!! Slander? That depends on how specific you want to be. When you
said 'other's religion' & 'vagueness in the accounting books', do you
mean to include also, the accounting books of the Mosque Building &
Mendaki Fund, which is governed by an Act of Parliament, subject to
regular, strict checks by the Auditor-General of Singapore?
ROTFLOLMAO!!!
You should go to school and improve your English, Frankie Lee!
You have lied and quoted the Bible in vain!
On the 16th of March, 2011, when asked why God had allowed such
catastrophes to befall upon the people of Japan, you claimed that God
is not almighty, because "the Bible says that the devils is in control
now because our ancestors sold it to him":
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/5a1bccae898f893a?hl=en
On the 17th of March, 2011, when asked to show where the passage "the
Bible says that the devils is in control now because our ancestors
sold it to him" is found in the Bible, you wrote:
"Reply: 2 corinthian 4;4.
How did Satan became the god of this world,if our ancestor not sold it
to him?Adam was to reign over this world,and earth since the creation
morning. What has been a common knowledge in Christendom and yet I
have to show it to you.This is terrible for someone so ignorant like
you,and even dare to ask for quotation of the verses".
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/84d4a4377c597706?hl=en
4 minutes later on the same day, the 17th of March, 2011, you added:
"It was Jesus who said,"I go to prepare a mansion for you",and I cling
on that and believe in Him.How can that be naive,where I can produce
billions of witnesses since time memorial?
Why do you deem that as naive?Or rather are you not gullible to the
core to have made that silly statements?
Honestly,I feel you are too gullible,not knowing your destiny,and not
understanding issues about eternity,and life after death.You don't
occur to me as someone intelligent".
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/4bf3e4678ef435cd?hl=en
Translation: Freakie to wiseguy: "I have ssssnake oil juz for you.
> Wanna buy? Dont worry, u can trusssstt meeee...."
-----------------
Reply: Since when did our Churches here sell snake oil?Why do you
think they are selling snake oil?
Is it because they are doing so much good and contribute so much for
the betterment of our society, therefore you seek to destroy it? Show
me how and when did they sell anything that is fake to people here?
You just any-o-how thrown in some accusations without any basis and
logics.
Your soul is just too darkened and evil.
----------------------------
LOL!!! Under the AMLA Act, the Muslims here contribute up to a hefty
> maximum of $16 per head. Now compare that to the 10% of your salary
> deduction collected in juz ONE church.
Howz that?!! ONE church collecting $12M vs half a million people
> collecting $8M, only half of which, goes to 20+ mosques? At that rate,
> that ONE church is collecting, I dont think the Buddhist community can
> oso match even though they have twice the number of adherents.
--------------------------------
Reply: The Saudis are funding a lot of things nowadays, and are you
not too ignorant to realise anything?
Since the Church is doing so much great things, and funds are poured
into it,that is the time for rejoicing,isn’t it..for us?
You are such a simplistic fellow.
Try what?You are too naive.
+++IF WE BELIEVE THAT HUMAN SOUL HANGS ON THE ETERNITY, THEN SHOULDN’T
WE GET MORE FUNDS TO CONTINUE OUR MISSION? WHAT KIND OF CONVICTION
WHICH IS DEEP WOULD NOT STRIVE FOR THE BEST, ON OUR MISSION?
Since you share none of our mission, clearly where you came from,
speaks volumes of your jealousies and strife, isn’t it?
---------------------------------------------
>
LOL!!! Let me repeat that again: Freakie to wiseguy: "I have ssssnake
oil juz for you. Wanna buy? Dont worry, u can trusssstt meeee...." Now
where did I say, "Churches to wiseguy"?
So dont worry about my soul. Yours is juz as dark and evil since you
any-o-how put words into my mouth.
LOL!!!
> LOL!!! Under the AMLA Act, the Muslims here contribute up to a hefty> maximum of $16 per head. Now compare that to the 10% of your salary
> > deduction collected in juz ONE church.
>
> Howz that?!! ONE church collecting $12M vs half a million people> collecting $8M, only half of which, goes to 20+ mosques? At that rate,
> > that ONE church is collecting, I dont think the Buddhist community can
> > oso match even though they have twice the number of adherents.
>
> --------------------------------
> Reply: The Saudis are funding a lot of things nowadays, and are you
> not too ignorant to realise anything?
LOL!!! So now you want to drag the Saudis into the picture? Last I
checked, AMLA covers only muslims of S'pore citizenship only, not
Saudi citizens...
Even if the Saudis want to donate, so what? The Pope has ALWAYS been
funding a lot of things. The Christian Rightards have also been
funding a lot of things. So what's your point?
LOL!!!
> Since the Church is doing so much great things, and funds are poured
> into it,that is the time for rejoicing,isn’t it..for us?
> You are such a simplistic fellow.
> Try what?You are too naive.
LOL!!! Are you sure now is the time for rejoicing? I thot now is only
the time to do good and great things. The time for rejoicing will be
later in the afterlife. Isnt that what Jesus was supposed to have
taught you?
Since apparently, you do not have that christian virtue called
patience and therefore, cannot wait to start 'rejoicing', what exactly
do you mean by 'rejoicing'? A home in Hollywood? A million dollar
condo? Jetting here and there? Expensive cars, expensive clothes?
Expensive tastes? Are these how you are supposed to 'rejoice' in the
meantime, while waiting for the afterlife?
LOL!!!
> +++IF WE BELIEVE THAT HUMAN SOUL HANGS ON THE ETERNITY, THEN SHOULDN’T
> WE GET MORE FUNDS TO CONTINUE OUR MISSION? WHAT KIND OF CONVICTION
> WHICH IS DEEP WOULD NOT STRIVE FOR THE BEST, ON OUR MISSION?
LOL!!! Conviction of the spiritual kind lah. Definitely not the kind
of conviction that strive for the best in worldly things..LOL!!
> Since you share none of our mission, clearly where you came from,
> speaks volumes of your jealousies and strife, isn’t it?
> ---------------------------------------------
LOL!!! Ya lor...u can say that...There, you are, oredi 'rejoicing' in
your million dollar condo in this material world, while poor, naive me
have to wait for mine in the afterlife. In the meantime, since I dont
collect 10% from anybody's salary, I must depend on the charity of the
Saudis and the Pope to get by on a daily basis, some more..sigh.
ROTFLOLMAO!!!
Frankie Lee, your proficiency in the English language is poor, and
you
have a mentality of a 10-year-old child; so, coupled with the fact
that you are blinded by superstition (ye
Frankie's reply: I already told you of your extreme foolishness being
the central theme of your message.
eg..Since I have the mentality of a 10 year of boy,and I can be a
Fraud and liar,and hold fast to superstitutions,then am I not a
wondrous kiddo?
eg..Since you disbelieve the Bible,then why quote the Ten Commandments
to condemn me?
eg..Since you disbelieve in Hell-fires,then why you contradict
yourself by saying I will go there,to Hell-fires?
Since you also hated people who tell lies,let me tell you the fate of
all who make and tell a lie.By the way,your false accusation against
me as a liar,already convict you as a false witness because I am
not,and you qualify to be condemn there,unless you repent.
Jesus said,..all liars,homosexuals,bearing false witnesses,..shall be
thrown to the lake of fires.
Frankie Lee, you have a minimal grasp of the English language, and
your ignorance, together with your hard-headed superstitious mind-set,
have made you into a village idiot and false preacher. You think that
just be saying "Jesus said" or "the Bible says" you can say anything
you like and get people to agree with you in your ignorant views. You
can't.
You think that your old age gives you the right to impose upon others
what you want them to do and what you want them to believe - it
doesn't. The ignorant people in your congregation may perhaps be
intimidated by the fear of death which you have been preaching them,
and listen to you, but no one else would. You have stated that you are
old, so the time has come for you to make amends, before you digress
further into senility. You have to look back at your life and repent
for all the lies you have said in Jesus' name. God works in mysterious
ways - He may actually be saying all this to you through me.
I accuse you of being a liar and a fraud. Now, what is it in these
facts that you can't understand?
***Why do you claimed your English is superior than mine and then
prove to me and all who read your posts,on how incapable of you to
articulate one charge about me?
You falsely charge me with Lyings,Fraud,but which words of mine would
constitute that?You cannot come out of thin air and hurl some
accusations without supporting basis,nor can you show me on which
point had I lied.
Hello,in today's context,whether or not it is hot-air or cold
air,people would know.
Bt the way,the Bible says,"Thou shall not bear false witnesses",and
this is one of the Ten Commandments,which you claimed to believe.As
for you who trespass this serious sin,hurling false accusation against
me,as the scriptures declare,you shall not inherit the Kingdom of God.
You have committed the sin of bearing false witnesses against me,and
the penalty is Hell-Fires,according to the demands of the Righteous
God.
Jesus said,"All liars and all who make a lie...they shall be thrown
into the lake of fires".You must repent and humble before God now or
else your heart will be harden,and harden till a point where you
forgot your sins,and you are beyond redemption and beyond help.
***Young man,did you not know you want to be seen as a simpleton?
Ha-ha! You haven't understood a word I wrote have you? Frankie Lee,
you have such a minimal grasp of the English language, and your
> "Frankie Lee" <leea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4c96df1e-5a1b-4ebe...@t19g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
So, Frankie Lee, have you repented today in front of your church
congregation? You have lied about the Bible, and that is a mortal sin!
Are you ready to be thrown into "the lake that burns with fire and
brimstone" - Revelation 21:8 ?
This is irrefutable proof that you are a fraud and a liar:
Gimme a break! You expect Frankie Lee, the uneducated false preacher,
to understand nuances of any language?
Proof that you are a LIAR and a FRAUD, Frankie Lee:
Frankie Lee, in:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian/msg/61caa4554636c017
,
you wrote: "Reply: If God has the power to control,then He would use
it.So you are infering that God has no power of control over
sinners,and sinners are not His children". Yet, in:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/5a1bccae898f893a?hl=en
you wrote, "Who told you that God is in full control of nature now?The
Bible says that the devils is in control now because our ancestors
sold it to him".
Frankie Lee, you have such a minimal grasp of the English language,
and your ignorance, together with your hard-headed superstitious mind-
set, have made you into a village idiot and false preacher. You think
that just be saying "Jesus said" or "the Bible says" you can say
anything you like and get people to agree with you in your ignorant
views. You can't.
You think that your old age gives you the right to impose upon others
what you want them to do and what you want them to believe - it
doesn't. The ignorant people in your congregation may perhaps be
intimidated by the fear of death which you have been preaching them,
and listen to you, but no one else would. You have stated that you are
old, so the time has come for you to make amends, before you digress
further into senility. You have to look back at your life and repent
for all the lies you have said in Jesus' name. God works in mysterious
ways - He may actually be saying all this to you through me.
I accuse you of being a liar and a fraud. Now, what is it in these
facts that you can't understand?
On the 16th of March, 2011, when asked why God had allowed such
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/5a1bccae898f893a?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/84d4a4377c597706?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/4bf3e4678ef435cd?hl=en
To the statement, "He is too busy to speak to people directly, only
through a select few, with an agenda", you replied, "Reply: You can be
busy and why can't He?"
Please tell us why you think that God can be "too busy to speak to
people directly, only through a select few, with an agenda". What was
He doing when you said He was busy? Was he playing golf? Do tell us,
since you think you are the only one who knows everything about God.
Frankie's reply: Sarcasm aside,I really think you have become a fool
by not knowing what was affirmed and what was not.People like you any-
o-how hamtam,normally should be left cold,nor warrant a reply.Since
this is a place where others may learn,you are bless to further learn
from me.
I was musing on one occasion after having seen the wondrous works of
God,many notabe miracles and wonders among His people.Why such
spectacular demonstrations and powers of God not shown and seen by our
world at large?
There was one great masterpiece of film made and produced by an
inteligent Director,and whose works were really futuristics.We have
our local people,those in the censored film board,unlearned and
ignorant,so theycensored the film and eventually the great masterpiece
of film was denied for our general public.
Since you harbour certain animosities against me,so what do you think
would happen,if I relate to you,"I have seen Angels,heard them
singing,bind demons,healed the sick,heard God audible voices and
instructions"
Let's say you are a wealthy man.You have two sons.You have many
thousands of employees.Would you give your keys of wealth,allow them
to access to your accounts and secrets,and recipies just any- o- how?
Would you not observe them for a period of time,to see their
trustworthiness,and see whether have they have pass the test?
If you 've common sense,you will not be asking why God speak to a
selected few.However,God always speak to the entire masses of
people,by his book,through the preachers, angels,events and various
ways,& not everything by direct appearings,direct voice.
If God send an Angel and appear before you,are you sure you will not
die of heart attack immediately?Can you withstand God's holiness?Do
you think it is fair that you want God to take care of your body,and
asked Him to prepare your body,and everything God must do for you to
receive His appearance?
God is no servant of man.You want God to be responsible for
everything ...and you?take God for a ride?Since you are a fool,why
must everyone be a fool like you?
Frankie's reply:
U:I accuse you of being a liar and a fraud. Now, what is it in these
facts that you can't understand?
Me:You have not state any facts at all,and on which point I lied?Since
you profess to have a good commnad of English,where was my lying
points?
U: You think that your old age gives you the right to impose upon
others...
Me: I thought you are proficiency in English.Did I impose my right on
others?In what ways have I done so?Have I the authority to censor your
message,and prevent you from replies?
The ST censor others view,and they impose their rights and views on
others through sheer monopoly,because we have only one News media.
U: Did you know that it was Emperor Constantine in 325 AD who ordered
his
hand-picked bishops to decide which books to include to subjugate the
people and to put fear into their hearts so he can keep his power and
wealth and strengthen the Roman Empire? The books were written by
Middle Eastern men who vaguely remembered what they went through, NOT
by God, and they were carefully re-written and manipulated in Latin
so
the uneducated people (like yourself) can only understand what those
people in power wanted them to believe.
Me: Are you sure you got that piece of history right?
Now,the Emperor handpick bishops to decide which books to include were
no cause to subjucate people to fear.How stupid for you to infer on
that?
On the otherhand,can it not also be true that those hand-pick bishops
were reliable people who have outstanding qualities needed to do the
task?Since they were bishops,they can be trusted,is it not?Now,if the
Emperor hand pick criminals from his jailed prisoners,then that would
be questionable,is it not?
How do you know that those middle eastern people vaguely remember
things?How do you know they manipulated the books?You see,you made
accusations out of the thin air against me,Fraud and Lies,with no
logics and coherent rationale,so what is strange you also could have
made those false accusations incoherently about those early writers of
the Bible.
To make matter worst for your lack of integrity,you condemned me based
on the Bible Ten Commandments,of which you discount.
Why do you want to tell me how hypocritical a fellow Wuson is today?
You have just confessed openly that you are a liar, a fraud, and a
lunatic.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/ea029b9acee2a375?hl=en
***Are you telling me that you are ignorant that the Bible speak of
Angels?You cannot even articulate what constitute a lie or fraud,but
anyohow make accusations.Are you trying to make yourself irrelevent?
You have openly confessed that you are a liar, a fraud, a lunatic, and
that you have the mind of a ten-year-old child.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Proof that you are a LIAR and a FRAUD:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/8fdc53c778da7b40?hl=en
Proof that you are a liar, a fraud, a lunatic, and that you have the
mind of a ten-year-old child, Frankie Lee:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/8fdc53c778da7b40?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/1a944cf708586e8c?hl=en
Quod erat demonstrandum.
You can't wangle your way out of this one.
Frankie Lee, in:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian/msg/61caa4554636c017
,
you wrote: "Reply: If God has the power to control,then He would use
it.So you are infering that God has no power of control over
sinners,and sinners are not His children", yet in:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/5a1bccae898f893a?hl=en
you wrote, "Who told you that God is in full control of nature now?The
Bible says that the devils is in control now because our ancestors
sold it to him".
To the statement, "He is too busy to speak to people directly, only
So, your sole aim is to hurt people in public Usenet groups, huh?
Well, you failed Frankie Lee - miserably - because you don't hurt
anyone - you only make people despise you and turn away from the
religion which you think you are propagating. If you were arrested as
a Christian, would the court have enough evidence to convict you? They
have a whole load of rubbish which you shout at people, claiming that
Jesus said this or the Bible says that, but those don't constitute
being a Christian. Any lunatic can shout "in the name of Jesus" the
way you do.
Proof that you are a liar, a fraud, a lunatic, and that you have the
mind of a ten-year-old child (oh yes, you are also a bigot):
You think that your old age gives you the right to impose upon others
what you want them to do and what you want them to believe - it
doesn't. The ignorant people in your congregation may perhaps be
intimidated by the fear of death which you have been preaching them,
and listen to you, but no one else would. You have stated that you are
old, so the time has come for you to make amends, before you digress
further into senility. You have to look back at your life and repent
for all the lies you have said in Jesus' name. God works in mysterious
ways - He may actually be saying all this to you through me.
I accuse you of being a liar and a fraud. Now, what is it in these
facts that you can't understand?
On the 16th of March, 2011, when asked why God had allowed such
catastrophes to befall upon the people of Japan, you claimed that God
is not almighty, because "the Bible says that the devils is in control
now because our ancestors sold it to him":
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/5a1bccae898f893a?hl=en
On the 17th of March, 2011, when asked to show where the passage "the
Bible says that the devils is in control now because our ancestors
sold it to him" is found in the Bible, you wrote:
"Reply: 2 corinthian 4;4.
How did Satan became the god of this world,if our ancestor not sold it
to him?Adam was to reign over this world,and earth since the creation
morning. What has been a common knowledge in Christendom and yet I
have to show it to you.This is terrible for someone so ignorant like
you,and even dare to ask for quotation of the verses".
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/84d4a4377c597706?hl=en
4 minutes later on the same day, the 17th of March, 2011, you added:
"It was Jesus who said,"I go to prepare a mansion for you",and I cling
on that and believe in Him.How can that be naive,where I can produce
billions of witnesses since time memorial?
Why do you deem that as naive?Or rather are you not gullible to the
core to have made that silly statements?
Honestly,I feel you are too gullible,not knowing your destiny,and not
understanding issues about eternity,and life after death.You don't
occur to me as someone intelligent".
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/4bf3e4678ef435cd?hl=en
Frankie Lee, you have such a minimal grasp of the English language,
when arguing with other people, make sure you dont use strawman.
otherwise, people will have the impression dhat atheist need to use
strawman argumen to destroy Christian argumen.
On 28/03/2011 08:00, Wusong wrote:
> Frankie Lee, you have such a minimal grasp of the English language,
...
Of course, he's better.
Atheist has no shame, we see only reality and truth.
Ha-ha! What a load of bull!
You don't really expect me to take you seriously, do you - let alone
follow your "advice" ?
Go to school and improve your Englisheee, so you don't sound like a
moron (even though you are one).
Proof that Frankie Lee is a liar, a fraud, a lunatic, and that he has
the mind of a ten-year-old child (oh yes, he is also a bigot):
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/8fdc53c778da7b40?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/1a944cf708586e8c?hl=en
Quod erat demonstrandum.
He can't wangle his way out of this one.