HELP NEEDED TO FIND SCHOOL IN IRELAND/UK
Sean Donahue
by the end of this year. I need as much help as possible in finding info
for locating a school (University) in case this happens. I am to Ireland
Within 2 months, and would appreciate any help with names of universities,
with a good Computer Science Dept., focusing on Network/Communications or
Systems. I could also use address, phone numbers, names of people to
contact, etc.
Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.Thanks in advance.
Sean
Roadster Racewerks
Gee, how does one become "forced to move to Ireland"? And can I trade places
with you?
Suze Hammond
tri...@agora.rain.com
David Harrington
writes:
> I am in desperate need of some help. I may be forced to move to Ireland
^^^^^^
"forced"? You could do worse...
> by the end of this year. I need as much help as possible in finding info
> for locating a school (University) in case this happens. I am to Ireland
> Within 2 months, and would appreciate any help with names of universities,
> with a good Computer Science Dept., focusing on Network/Communications or
> Systems. I could also use address, phone numbers, names of people to
> contact, etc.
>
> Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Sean
You're in luck. Trinity College Dublin (TCD) have a pretty good Computer
Science Dept., as do University College Dublin (or is it now UoD?). So do
University of Limerick, formerly NIHE Limerick. When I lived in Cork
('82--'87), UCC (Cork) had a Computer Science dept. that was a *distant* fourth
in the country.
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Eamonn McManus
Dublin. To summarise, there are four universities in the Republic: the
University of Dublin, whose only constituent college is Trinity College;
the recently founded Dublin City University and Limerick University; and
the National University of Ireland, of which University College Dublin
is the largest college.
,
Eamonn
sorcha mari von diskin
>> Within 2 months, and would appreciate any help with names of universities,
>> with a good Computer Science Dept., focusing on Network/Communications or
>> Systems. I could also use address, phone numbers, names of people to
>> contact, etc.
>>
>You're in luck. Trinity College Dublin (TCD) have a pretty good Computer
>Science Dept., as do University College Dublin (or is it now UoD?).
^^^^
The University of Dublin is Trinity!
You could do plenty worse!
Sorcha
bred...@dit.ie
> systems and more. The professor is Prof. Byrne, and the department secretary
> is Irene O'Neill (extremely helpful & efficient). Address:
I meant to include Irene's email address too: ion...@cs.tcd.ie
Barry Redmond bredmond%dit...@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Dept of Electronics & Communications bred...@dit.ie
Dublin Institute of Technology
Kevin St, Dublin 8, Ireland
bred...@dit.ie
> with a good Computer Science Dept., focusing on Network/Communications or
> Systems. I could also use address, phone numbers, names of people to
Trinity College, Dublin (TCD) has a good Computer Science Dept with work going
on in the areas of distributed systems, computer architecture, database
systems and more. The professor is Prof. Byrne, and the department secretary
is Irene O'Neill (extremely helpful & efficient). Address:
Dept of Computer Science
Trinity College
Dublin 1
They have a good information pack about the dept which I'm sure Irene will
send you if you ask nicely!
Eamonn McManus
>In article <c...@tws8.cs.tcd.ie>, emcm...@cs.tcd.ie (Eamonn McManus) writes:
>> the recently founded Dublin City University and Limerick University; and
>name correct . ( in public anyway)
I stand corrected. "University of Limerck" it is.
,
Eamonn, from Trinity College Dubln.
Parsifal aka D.P.O'Donoghue
ahem !
that should read University of Limerck. After all we all get Trinity's
name correct . ( in public anyway)
Des.
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Tom Costello
Eamonn I am suprised. Limerick University, or the Universtity of Limerick, depending
on how you translate the name from Irish, is a university (just). On the other
hand the ``college of the holy and undivided Trinity of Queen Elizabeth near Dublin,
(for the conversion of papists) '' is a college. The correct name for the University of
which it is a part is Dublin University, or the University of Dublin. That's why they
had to call Dublin City University such a ridiculous name.
To those of you not familiar with Dublin, Dublin City University is 6 miles
outside Dublin in a slum called Ballymun. As they were i=embarrassed it call
Ballymun University, they asked Dublin University, whether they could use the name
University of Dublin, to which an answer in the negative was recieved.
Tom
Parsifal aka D.P.O'Donoghue
> In article <heret...@tws8.cs.tcd.ie>, emcm...@cs.tcd.ie (Eamonn McManus) writes:
> |> 861...@ul.ie (Parsifal aka D.P.O'Donoghue) writes:
> |> >In article <c...@tws8.cs.tcd.ie>, emcm...@cs.tcd.ie (Eamonn McManus) writes:
> |> >> the recently founded Dublin City University and Limerick University; and
> |> >that should read University of Limerck. After all we all get Trinity's
> |> >name correct . ( in public anyway)
> |>
> |> I stand corrected. "University of Limerck" it is.
> |>
> |> ,
> |> Eamonn, from Trinity College Dubln.
>
>
> Eamonn I am suprised. Limerick University, or the Universtity of Limerick, depending
> on how you translate the name from Irish, is a university (just). On the other
Well the official Translation according to the University of Limerick Act is
University of Limerick.
> hand the ``college of the holy and undivided Trinity of Queen Elizabeth near Dublin,
> (for the conversion of papists) '' is a college. The correct name for the University of
> which it is a part is Dublin University, or the University of Dublin. That's why they
> had to call Dublin City University such a ridiculous name.
Of course DCU is UCD for dyslexics (no insults intended).
>
> To those of you not familiar with Dublin, Dublin City University is 6 miles
> outside Dublin in a slum called Ballymun. As they were i=embarrassed it call
> Ballymun University, they asked Dublin University, whether they could use the name
> University of Dublin, to which an answer in the negative was recieved.
I thought it was in Glasnevin - which is a cut (smallish) above Ballymun..
Des.
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Ulick Stafford
>
>I thought it was in Glasnevin - which is a cut (smallish) above Ballymun..
>
>Des.
>--
Correctly, NIHE Dublin was in Ballymun, but they said it was in Glasnevin
presumably because of the reputation of the flats at the time of the institutes
formation. I mean it would have been hard to attract students to Ballymun.
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the person in the attic...
> Of course DCU is UCD for dyslexics (no insults intended).
>
polytechnic, otherwise known as belfield airport...
tom costello states:
>> To those of you not familiar with Dublin, Dublin City University is 6 miles
>> outside Dublin in a slum called Ballymun. As they were i=embarrassed it
>> call Ballymun University, they asked Dublin University, whether they could
>> use the name University of Dublin, to which an answer in the negative was
>> recieved.
>
and des corrects him:
> I thought it was in Glasnevin - which is a cut (smallish) above Ballymun..
>
it is in glasnevin. near(ish) to ballymun, but not a part of it. (i
should know, i have contacts there!) tom costello would do well to get out
a map of dublin and study it carefully before making statements like this
again... next he'll be telling us that u.l. is in raheen!
luv lust and poppydust... (and new universities)
dorian
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Darragh Stokes
NIHE Dublin when it was being recognised as having University status, the
first choice was " National Technological University ". This was considered
appropriate because NIHE Dublin had/has the highest proportion of
"technological students, spread over a wide variety of courses ( Electronic
Engineering, Applied Physics, Bio-Technology, Chemistry ... ). However,
some of the other colleges ( Trinity being the most notable ;-) ) felt that
this would affect their own reputation. ( I thought, that the reputation of
an established college such as Trinity would hardly be tarnished by another
college's title ! ). At this stage the concept of UoD/DCU etc. had to be lookedat. Dublin University is definitly not the first choice but it does indicate
what city the University is located in as opposed to the locality of that city.
As to your remarks about the "Ballymun Slum". Ballymun is ,generally a low
income area, similar to the Pearse St. area ( and others ) adjacent to Trinity
College. Neither of which I would label slums ( "Shitty areas " yes, but not
slums !).
Darragh.
Maura Clark
>In article <1991Jun16.0...@neon.Stanford.EDU>, cost...@DEC-Lite.Stanford.EDU (Tom Costello) writes:
>>
>> To those of you not familiar with Dublin, Dublin City University is 6 miles
>> outside Dublin in a slum called Ballymun. As they were i=embarrassed it call
>> Ballymun University, they asked Dublin University, whether they could use the name
>> University of Dublin, to which an answer in the negative was recieved.
You snob!
>I thought it was in Glasnevin - which is a cut (smallish) above Ballymun..
It's on the borders. In fact there is an entrance on Collins Avenue, but a
few hunderd yards from St. Aidans CBS (Colaiste Aodhain) where one of
Ireland's most famous footballing sons, Liam Brady, was eduacted, until he
was expelled for choosing to play Soccer for the Ireland youth team on the
same day his school wanted him to play GAA. How's that for trivia (and a
long sentence). And St Aidan's school is in Whitehall! So lets say DCU is
on the Borders of Ballymun (bit rough), Glasnevin (quite respectable) and
Whitehall (medium respectable).
While were on the subject, I did hear talk of them pulling down the
high-rise or converting some to student accommodation. Let's face it high
rise is not ideal for mothers (a large number of them single) with
pushchairs and prams. Anyone closer care to comment?
Maura.
>Des.
>--
Can we shorten that to Derry :-) ??
the person in the attic...
> Just to set the record straight, during the process of selecting a name for
> NIHE Dublin when it was being recognised as having University status, the
> first choice was " National Technological University ". This was considered
> appropriate because NIHE Dublin had/has the highest proportion of
> "technological students,
and, at the same time (when we were still n.i.h.e. limerick), there was a
campaign among some of the students here to have our name changed to
"limerick universtiy of science and technology", to be known by its
initials...
elderly auntie: and what are you doing now, dear?
student: oh, i'm a student at lust!
(elderly auntie faints)
however, they threw the idea out because it didn't take account of us
humanities students.
luv lust and poppydust...
Parsifal aka D.P.O'Donoghue
> In <17700.2...@ul.ie> 861...@ul.ie (Parsifal aka D.P.O'Donoghue) writes:
>
[ oodles deleted ]
>
>>Des.
>>--
>
> Can we shorten that to Derry :-) ??
NO !
Parsifal aka D.P.O'Donoghue
> darragh stokes says:
>> Just to set the record straight, during the process of selecting a name for
>> NIHE Dublin when it was being recognised as having University status, the
>> first choice was " National Technological University ". This was considered
>> appropriate because NIHE Dublin had/has the highest proportion of
>> "technological students,
>
> and, at the same time (when we were still n.i.h.e. limerick), there was a
> campaign among some of the students here to have our name changed to
> "limerick universtiy of science and technology", to be known by its
> initials...
>
Also, because our campus is situated by the River Shannon some bright boy/girl
suggested calling it the Shannon Higher Institute of Tecnhology hence the
immortal song lines :
my lovelife's in the pits,
this college is the s***s.
People always think we're being rude but really we're just calling this place
by another name.
Des.
Disclaimer : it's nice here, really. And even if it wasn't I didn't say it.
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Sean MacRoibeaird
As anyone with a knowledge of the Irish education knows, admittance to
third level colleges is based on your grades in your leaving
certificate, not on the colour of your blood or you socio-economic
ststus. DCU (ex NIHE) has consistently the highest entry requirements
for technical degree courses, and by employment statistics produces
the best qualified engineering and science graduates.
So you shower of little minded , ignorant assholes who have obviously
failed to have your mind broadened by the education you received
within that wondrous institution they call Trinity college, it doesn't
really matter what they call the place , it is us who are getting the
best jobs while you idiots have all that unemployed free time to
scratch you asses and think up cheap jibes about an area that needs
help rather than not-so-smart comments.
Do chara,
Sean Mac Roibeaird, B.Sc, M.Sc (DCU and employed)
Rory Rogerson
>high-rise or converting some to student accommodation. Let's face it high
>rise is not ideal for mothers (a large number of them single) with
>pushchairs and prams. Anyone closer care to comment?
I heard from a taxi driver that Aer Lingus (Irish Airline) were
thinking about converting one of the buildings for their staff
members. He pointed out the one closed to the airport (I don't know
its "name")
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Antony A. Courtney
>I have never heard such a load of ignorant rubbish in my whole life.
>As anyone with a knowledge of the Irish education knows, admittance to
>third level colleges is based on your grades in your leaving
>certificate, not on the colour of your blood or you socio-economic
>ststus. DCU (ex NIHE) has consistently the highest entry requirements
>for technical degree courses, and by employment statistics produces
>the best qualified engineering and science graduates.
>
Granted, the previous statements about DCU were plenty critical. I'm sure not
everyone feels that way. [Mr. Tom Costello--kind of fitting that you should
be posting from Stanford, located in the fine town of Palo Alto, California.
Perhaps you might travel a few miles over in the Eastern direction. East Palo
Alto is one of the poorest ghettos in the state. Or are you rich Stanford
types "above" looking at the problems of the real world?? ]
Nevertheless, I didn't notice that any of the criticisms were really attacking
DCU's educational standards. Perhaps you might address some of the things that
were attacked (i.e. DCU's location) if you are going to respond in such a
heated manner.
>
>So you shower of little minded , ignorant assholes who have obviously
>failed to have your mind broadened by the education you received
>within that wondrous institution they call Trinity college, it doesn't
>really matter what they call the place , it is us who are getting the
>best jobs while you idiots have all that unemployed free time to
>scratch you asses and think up cheap jibes about an area that needs
>help rather than not-so-smart comments.
Wow. You managed to call people little minded, ignorant, idiots, assholes,
unemployed, and ass scratching all in one run-on sentence. Clearly the mark
of the fine education you received at DCU. I only hope that upon receiving
my degree from Trinity I have achieved even half your skill in rhetoric and
that I too might be able to defend the institutions which I hold dear in as
eloquent and dignified a manner as yourself. And you got your *MASTERS* from
there? Deary me. I hope that you do a better job of communicating with your
co-workers in the fine position you received at Retix than you do making your
points here.
Here is a random thought, however it is a purely UNOFFICIAL one since I am not
officially a student at Trinity 'till Fall..uh...er...Autumn...uh...er....
Michaelmas term--OCTOBER! :
Would anyone be interested in a cross-Ireland programming contest? The ACM
sponsors such a thing for Universities here, and from what I have heard it is
usually fun and challenging for everyone. Each CS Department could throw
together a team and maybe it could judged / chaired by interested faculty at
participating organizations. If you think it might be fun (or if you think
the idea is ridiculous) drop me a line...
>
>Do chara,
>
>Sean Mac Roibeaird, B.Sc, M.Sc (DCU and employed)
~antony, High School Diploma (Berkeley High and employed) :-)
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Ulick Stafford
for material of this nature. I never believed it would be posted. I
believe that this is a response to an article in which I stated that
NIHE was located in Ballymun, but Glasnevin was said for obvious reasons.
Other posters have pointed out that it may well be said that DCU is in
Ballymun, Glasnevin or Whitehall, given its location. My original post
was based on informataion I received from a student at NIHE Dublin who
said that the college there previously (Albert?) had a Ballymun address.
Where it is is ofcourse no reflection on the quality of the University.
Many great schools are located in lousy areas and vice versa. Un fortunately
I think the poster has done himself and his college a great disservice by
posting this.
In article <1991Jun22.0...@retix.retix.com> se...@retix.retix.com (Sean MacRoibeaird) writes:
Some corrections are appropriate. I am a UCD graduate and resnt being
called a Trinity graduate> I do not have much free time, as the poster seems
to think. It is months since I last read news, and can only afford the time
now in the summer. And if the poster is incapable of putting up with the
inevitable depreciatory gibes that students/alumni of universities have for
their rivals, perhaps he feels that his institution is not as good as others.
The kind of language used is this response, seems to be totally inappropriate in
a public forum.
(I won't comment on the grammer in the post, as we all make errors
and I am sure I have several that could be corrected, but in sentneces
that go on about great someone or something is, they are always a little amusing.)
Ian Wallis
>(I won't comment on the grammer in the post, as we all make errors
>and I am sure I have several that could be corrected, but in sentneces
>that go on about great someone or something is, they are always a little amusing.)
QED