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mcge...@topaz.ucq.edu.au

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Jun 1, 1992, 5:33:11 AM6/1/92
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Could anyone on this net help me to find info on the group known as THE
COVENANTERS,formed in the 1680's to oppose the takeover of the Church of
Scotland by the CofE. My ancestor JOHN McGEACHIN was a member. He was outlawed
in 1684 and shot dead by the English in 1688 near CUMNOCK (AYR). Data on these
events is scarce in this part of the world so any assistance with sources would
be gratefully recieved
thanks in advance
Neil McGeachin
Lecturer-Health Science
Uni. Central Queensland
Rockhampton
AUSTRALIA

Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,

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Jun 1, 1992, 12:31:12 PM6/1/92
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From article <1992Jun1.1...@topaz.ucq.edu.au>, by mcge...@topaz.ucq.edu.au:
The covenanters were formed long before the 1680's (more like the
1650's). There were two covenants; the first was the National Covenant,
and the second, as I remember was the Solemn League and Covenant). An
good history book on Scotland will deal with this in detail. The most
famous covenanter (well one of them) was Montrose, who also supported
the King.

GW

Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,

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Jun 1, 1992, 3:28:34 PM6/1/92
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National Covenant was signed in 1638, and the Solemn League and Covenant
was signed in (1643). An good general history book about Scotland will
tell you about the Covenanters, however I recommend the following books
also,

A History of the Scottish People, 1560-1830.
By T.C. Smout (Fontana Publisher, 1987).

"Covenant and Commonweal: the Language of Politics in Reformation
Scotland"
by R. Mason (this is an article that appears in Church, Politics and
Society, ed. N. MacDougall (John Donald, pub. 1983)).

Covenant, Charter, and Party.
ed. T. Brotherstone (Aberdeen University Press, 1989).


GW

Roger Vanderveen

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Jun 1, 1992, 4:19:29 PM6/1/92
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From article <1992Jun1.1...@topaz.ucq.edu.au,

by mcge...@topaz.ucq.edu.au:
Could anyone on this net help me to find info on the group known as
THE COVENANTERS,formed in the 1680's to oppose the takeover of the
Church of Scotland by the CofE.

In article <1992Jun1.1...@news.clarkson.edu wal...@sun.soe.clarkson.edu


(Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,) writes:
The covenanters were formed long before the 1680's (more like the
1650's). There were two covenants; the first was the National
Covenant, and the second, as I remember was the Solemn League and
Covenant).

The National Covenant was signed in 1638. One of the original copies hangs in
Greyfriars Kirk in Edinburgh, some of whose participants signed their name in
blood. The cells in the churchyard (a former abbey), where some were
imprisoned, also still exist.

Geneva College, in Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania, is operated by the Covenanters,
now known as the Reformed Presbyterian Church (at least in the US). They would
probably have a substantial collection of histories, maybe even genealogies.

Roger

Ted A. Campbell

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Jun 1, 1992, 9:40:22 PM6/1/92
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Any standard work on Scottish history or seventeenth century British
Church History should deal with Covenanters. Two recent works of
North American authors which deal with the Covenanters are the
following:

Marilyn Westerkamp, <title>The Triumph of the Laity</title> (Oxford
University Press, 1989?), and

Leigh Eric Schmidt, <title>Holy Fairs</title> (Princeton University
Press? 1990?)

To say that Covenanters opposed takeover of the Scottish Church by
the COE (Church of England) might be regarded as a half-truth; they
were equally concerned to avoid the Independency of Cromwell and
Co. during the Interregnum -- Covenanters, as I recall, tended to
oppose the "regicide."

Ted (not a Presbyterian) Campbell
Duke Divinity School
Durham, NC USA
tc...@hercules.acpub.duke.edu

Michael Helm

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Jun 2, 1992, 3:43:06 PM6/2/92
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mcge...@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
>Could anyone on this net help me to find info on the group known as THE
>COVENANTERS,formed in the 1680's to oppose the takeover of the Church of

This posting is probably the interjection of noise into the system
.... I think the term "covenanter" was also used in colonial North
America to describe the indentured servants that came over in the
17th-18th centuries, particularly among the Pennsylvania Germans.
[They signed a covenant as their indenture hence the name.] So if you
stumble across that term here in the US, double check before ascribing
a British origin to it.

brig...@yahoo.com

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Aug 13, 2014, 11:53:35 PM8/13/14
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Hi Neil,
I see you posted this above though not sure how long ago. I've got McGeachin ancestors from there too but can't get any further back with surity (sp?) than a Hugh McGeachin born 1767. I can make assumptions that take me another two generations back but can find nothing from there. Definitely curious as to weather this covenanter was an ancestor. At least I know from your post that he had at least one child. Is there info you can give me that might help?

(I also have a distant Aussie relo arriving in Cumnock in two days for a week of research, so any clues are particularly pertinent right now.)

Kind regards,
Brigit, Perth (via the Ballarat/Scarsdale McGeachins)
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