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Shadow Benny - A spice?

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Mr P.K. Djali

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Apr 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/18/96
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Does anyone know what shadow benny is or what it might be known as outside trinidad, its in a recipe but noone in the uk has heard of it?


Niels M. Sampath

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Apr 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/18/96
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In article <Dq26E...@liverpool.ac.uk>

dj...@liverpool.ac.uk "Mr P.K. Djali" writes:

> Does anyone know what shadow benny is or what it might be known as outside
> trinidad, its in a recipe but noone in the uk has heard of it?

I have tried asking in Jamaican restaurants for `shado beni' but no
luck. Nevertheless, if you look in some West Indian shops they sometimes
have a `green sauce' that is sometimes shado bani based.

I have tasted it in some Indian restaurants (in the UK that usually
means Bangladeshi) as well, tho I wouldn't know what they call it.

The scientific name for the plant is _Eryngium foetidum_, also known
as `fit weed'.

Good luck. You are not the only one looking for a reliable source.
Next time I go to T'dad I might bring back some seeds (tho no
doubt customs might take a dim view).
--
Niels

Anthony Teelucksingh

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Apr 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/18/96
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On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 12:52:04 GMT, dj...@liverpool.ac.uk (Mr P.K.
Djali) wrote:

>Does anyone know what shadow benny is or what it might be known as outside trinidad, its in a recipe but noone in the uk has heard of it?
>

Isn't it cilantro, also known as coriander? They
certainly have a taste quite close to shadow benny.

--

Tony

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Indira Ganaselall

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Apr 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/19/96
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Shadow Beni is also called Bhan Dhania or wild coriander
... in North America what is known as dhania, coriander
leaves, cilantro, chinese parsley or culantro is a very good substitute.


Niels M. Sampath
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wrote: : In article <Dq26E...@liverpool.ac.uk>


: dj...@liverpool.ac.uk "Mr P.K. Djali" writes:

: > Does anyone know what shadow benny is or what it might be known as outside


: > trinidad, its in a recipe but noone in the uk has heard of it?

: I have tried asking in Jamaican restaurants for `shado beni' but no

Rastapoodle

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Apr 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/19/96
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>> Does anyone know what shadow benny is or what it might be known as outside
>> trinidad, its in a recipe but noone in the uk has heard of it?
>I have tried asking in Jamaican restaurants for `shado beni' but no
>luck. Nevertheless, if you look in some West Indian shops they sometimes
>have a `green sauce' that is sometimes shado bani based.
>I have tasted it in some Indian restaurants (in the UK that usually
>means Bangladeshi) as well, tho I wouldn't know what they call it.
>The scientific name for the plant is _Eryngium foetidum_, also known
>as `fit weed'.
>Good luck. You are not the only one looking for a reliable source.
>Next time I go to T'dad I might bring back some seeds (tho no
>doubt customs might take a dim view).
Ah, the mystery is solved! I grow this plant in my yard in Miami. It is a low-growing,
rosette-leaved herb that tastes *just* like cilantro, but is called Cultantro.

Cilantro, commonly used in mexican, thai, chinese and vietnamese cooking, is notoriously
hard to grow. Culantro, the 'shadow bennie' you're talking about, is a native of Mexico
and Central America, and is used through the Caribbean and South America as a cilantro
substitute. It is stronger in flavor than cilantro, and must be chopped fine or put in a
blender (as in the green sauce you ate) because the little spikes on the ends of the
leaves can be tough.

I love it and write about it in AOL's herb growing folder, and in the rec.gardens
newsgroup, where there is currently a thread about collecting the seed of it.

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Anya

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S. Thomas

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Apr 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/19/96
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Niels M. Sampath wrote:
>
> In article <Dq26E...@liverpool.ac.uk>
> dj...@liverpool.ac.uk "Mr P.K. Djali" writes:
>
> > Does anyone know what shadow benny is or what it might be known as outside
> > trinidad, its in a recipe but noone in the uk has heard of it?
>

>

> The scientific name for the plant is _Eryngium foetidum_, also known
> as `fit weed'.

Hmmm... in Tobago, it's known as "Fitz weed".
The Korean groceries in the US call it "rae kau".
And, the Latin American markets have a good substitute
called "cilantro", but it's not quite the same.

What I'd like to know is the etymology of "Shadow beni".
Is it Hindi, French, or what? With so many linguistic
influences in Trinidad, it's sometimes hard to know
sometimes where common words and phrases originate.

> --
> Niels

Sidney

S. Thomas

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Apr 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/19/96
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Bryan Joseph

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Apr 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/19/96
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In article <Dq26E...@liverpool.ac.uk>, "Mr P.K. Djali"
<dj...@liverpool.ac.uk> writes

>Does anyone know what shadow benny is or what it might be known as outside
>trinidad, its in a recipe but noone in the uk has heard of it?
>
The closest tasting herb to shado is corriander. It is not as pungent
as the real thing!
--
Bryan Joseph

Niels M. Sampath

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Apr 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/20/96
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In article <3177E717...@erols.com> sth...@erols.com "S. Thomas" writes:

> What I'd like to know is the etymology of "Shadow beni".
> Is it Hindi, French, or what? With so many linguistic
> influences in Trinidad, it's sometimes hard to know
> sometimes where common words and phrases originate.
>

> Sidney

As Indira pointed out in her follow up, the Indian population tends to
call it Bhan Dhanya so it might be possible to discount Hindi/Bhojpuri
linguistic influence on `Shado Beni'.

--
Niels

F. Mohammed

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Apr 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/20/96
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In article <Dq26E...@liverpool.ac.uk> dj...@liverpool.ac.uk (Mr P.K. Djali) writes:
>From: dj...@liverpool.ac.uk (Mr P.K. Djali)
>Subject: Shadow Benny - A spice?
>Summary: what is shadow benny? a spice?
>Keywords: Cooking food spice herb
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 12:52:04 GMT

>Does anyone know what shadow benny is or what it might be known as outside
trinidad, its in a recipe but noone in the uk has heard of it?


I've seen it spelt "chadon beni", I think the name is French. Indo-Trinis
call it "bandania".

Rachel

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Apr 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/22/96
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In article <w$pWsGALQ...@ierehut.demon.co.uk> Bryan Joseph <bry...@ierehut.demon.co.uk> writes:
>From: Bryan Joseph <bry...@ierehut.demon.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: Shadow Benny - A spice?
>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:22:19 +0100

>In article <Dq26E...@liverpool.ac.uk>, "Mr P.K. Djali"
><dj...@liverpool.ac.uk> writes

>>Does anyone know what shadow benny is or what it might be known as outside
>>trinidad, its in a recipe but noone in the uk has heard of it?
>>

>The closest tasting herb to shado is corriander. It is not as pungent
>as the real thing!
>--
>Bryan Joseph

The closest thing is fresh coriander leaves. Dried leaves and the seeds are
useless. I found Sainsbury's fresh coriander was not very good. I used to
use fresh coriander from Pakistani vegetable shops.

Take care not to do what my mum did and use saffron for saffron. West Indian
saffron is tumeric.

Enjoy


Rachel Shepherd

MDemontri

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Apr 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/29/96
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It is known as Cilantro outside of Trini

mark....@cmbcreative.com

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Jan 5, 2018, 12:36:25 PM1/5/18
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On Thursday, April 18, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Mr P.K. Djali wrote:
> Does anyone know what shadow benny is or what it might be known as outside trinidad, its in a recipe but noone in the uk has heard of it?

Shadow Benny (phonetic spelling) is from French 'chadon beni', i.e., thistle blessed or, in English, blessed thistle. In Spanish Caribbean as well as Lopinot, T&T, for ex, 'culantro', I suspect because of its similar though much stronger taste resemblance to cilantro. The Indian local (T&T) word for it is 'bandanya' where ban is wild, forest and anya is cilantro, so, it is wild or forest cilantro.

mark....@cmbcreative.com

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