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PEDRO MARTORI

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May 14, 2002, 9:46:40 AM5/14/02
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 that's a lie ! stop lying  to the world and to us...we know better than you...we  or some of us were there  all along the struggle and  some time after it too.
 
the rebel army never had more than 1,000 by the  end of the struggle...
I was one of the people who participated in the struggle against Batista's regime...
 
BTW , in one of the earliest speeches by the new dictator...he himself ...and nobody else but himslef SAID :
 
<< ...if we would have had so many pople  with us...as we do  today...the struggle against the dictatorship would have not lasted almost two years...>>>
 
WORDS OF KASTRO IN JANUARY,1959 !!!!!
 
> 'Rebel Army was the people in uniform'
>
http://www.themilitant.com/2002/6605/660561.html
>
 

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Aleksandar Sarovic

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May 14, 2002, 10:44:15 AM5/14/02
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Castro is dictator who tries to built a better society. We may agree he is not very successful. Bush is dictator who tries to built a worse world for majority of the people. He has army all over the world in order to suppress people. He blackmail countries in order to accept his wish. He corrupt all influenced people around the world in order to follow his wish. I believe the part of the money comes to you in order to help him. He is very successful and that is not good for the world.
 
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Flink

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May 14, 2002, 8:35:56 PM5/14/02
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On Tue, 14 May 2002 10:44:15 -0400, "Aleksandar Sarovic"
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>Castro is dictator who tries to built a better society.

Where is that castro trying to build a better society!?

Aleksandar Sarovic

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May 14, 2002, 10:41:25 PM5/14/02
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"Flink" <Fl...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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In Cuba


Flink

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May 15, 2002, 12:43:29 PM5/15/02
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Do you live there!?

Well, maybe he started to build that "better sosiety" after I left
cuba, but I doubt it (according to what I saw a few years ago when I
went back to visit my family), and the way my family, friends, and
people in general live.

Go to cuba and live there as a Cuban, then tell me that fidel is
building a "better society".

Read a book about Sam Giancana and you will have an idea of what fidel
has built in cuba. If you don't want to believe it, that's your
problem.

I do wish (with all my heart) that you (and everyone who think like
you) one day will live in a society like the one fidel is
building......forever!


On Tue, 14 May 2002 22:41:25 -0400, "Aleksandar Sarovic"

Aleksandar Sarovic

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May 15, 2002, 1:08:30 PM5/15/02
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"Flink" <Fl...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> Do you live there!?
>
> Well, maybe he started to build that "better sosiety" after I left
> cuba, but I doubt it (according to what I saw a few years ago when I
> went back to visit my family), and the way my family, friends, and
> people in general live.
>
> Go to cuba and live there as a Cuban, then tell me that fidel is
> building a "better society".
>
> Read a book about Sam Giancana and you will have an idea of what fidel
> has built in cuba. If you don't want to believe it, that's your
> problem.
>
> I do wish (with all my heart) that you (and everyone who think like
> you) one day will live in a society like the one fidel is
> building......forever!
>

Not a nice wish. May I remind you what I have written in this tread: "Castro


is dictator who tries to built a better society. We may agree he is not very

successful." I have been in Cuba many times. Spoke to the people. Half of
them likes Castro and half does not. Try to compare living there with
Jamaica, Haiti or any South America's country and will find many advantages.
Health care, free school, full employment, no crime. I was not afraid to
walk anywhere in Havana. Very different was when walked in Manhattan New
York by night. I am not telling it cannot be better but Castro failed to
produce it. American embargo may be one of the causes. However if Castro
allows the US influence to get inside the Cuba you will lose all benefits
existing today and will NOT live any better. Simple the US will not allow
that. The people in all East European countries live much worse today than
in socialism.
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malanga

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May 15, 2002, 3:25:53 PM5/15/02
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>
> The people in all East European countries live much worse today than
> in socialism.
>

Which no doubt, explains the resounding and overwhelming electoral victories
and existence of communist governments in "all" those "East European"
countries.

Let's see... there were.... and now there are....


Aleksandar Sarovic

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May 15, 2002, 3:50:46 PM5/15/02
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"malanga" <mal...@nyame.yu.ca> wrote in message
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Oh yes, communist were back in many of the socialist countries but of course
they were totally powerless like any other party. All the main media is
owned by the western corporations. The people is being brainwashed the same
way as the people on the west. All valuable companies are sold to the
western corporations. They make profits and the people live worse. All these
countries are colonies now including Russia. All influenced people are
corrupted the same way as the influenced people on the west. As result most
of the people do not vote any more same as on the west. They do not expect
the better future at all. Fascism is coming unavoidable everywhere.

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malanga

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May 15, 2002, 4:01:38 PM5/15/02
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"Aleksandar Sarovic" <aleks...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>
> "malanga" <mal...@nyame.yu.ca> wrote in message
> news:5DyE8.2272$7_4.76...@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> > "Aleksandar Sarovic" <aleks...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:%CwE8.14053$oF2.1...@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > >
> > > The people in all East European countries live much worse today than
> > > in socialism.
> > >
> >
> > Which no doubt, explains the resounding and overwhelming electoral
> victories
> > and existence of communist governments in "all" those "East European"
> > countries.
> >
> > Let's see... there were.... and now there are....
> >
> >
>
> Oh yes, communist were back in many of the socialist countries but of
course
> they were totally powerless like any other party. All the main media is
> owned by the western corporations. The people is being brainwashed the
same
> way as the people on the west.

Ah...yes... the old brainwashing theory... and the media....and the western
corporations!

>All valuable companies are sold to the
> western corporations. They make profits and the people live worse.

You mean the "brainwashed" people... otherwise they would vote for others...
if the media and the western corporations let them.... with their black
helicopters hovering overhead.

Nothing at all like the choice they had under communism, eh?

>All these
> countries are colonies now including Russia.

Colonialism! Of course!

Let's see they are colonies of.......

> All influenced people are
> corrupted the same way as the influenced people on the west. As result
most
> of the people do not vote any more same as on the west. They do not expect
> the better future at all. Fascism is coming unavoidable everywhere.

Hmmm...cut and paste time...

Which no doubt, explains the resounding and overwhelming electoral

victories and existence of fascist governments in "all" those "East
European"
countries.

Let's see... there weren't.... and now there are....

What a hoot!


Aleksandar Sarovic

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May 15, 2002, 4:23:14 PM5/15/02
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"malanga" <mal...@nyame.yu.ca> wrote >

I found discussion with you useless. I do not like you and do not want to
talk to you any more.

Aleksandar


malanga

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May 15, 2002, 5:19:47 PM5/15/02
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"Aleksandar Sarovic" <aleks...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> >
> I found discussion with you useless. I do not like you and do not want to
> talk to you any more.
>
> Aleksandar
>

Gee... does this mean I "brainwashed" you into not bothering to vote?

That you are on the path to fascism?

Film at 11.


>


Spartacus

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May 18, 2002, 1:21:06 PM5/18/02
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Of course ,I expected nothing else from you,When beaten run away and hide
your head in the Sand,Like a good Lefty without the power of the
totalitarian State backing him up.You maggots make me sick!

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Aleksandar Sarovic

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May 18, 2002, 2:15:51 PM5/18/02
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You should learn to respect others. Until then you are in my block sender
list.

Aleksandar


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PEDRO MARTORI

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May 18, 2002, 10:40:34 PM5/18/02
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I know your problem...

and that is the fact that you don't know much about Cuba , its former
regimes and society as a whole.
Free Education was there prior to kastro's regime, BTW, in kastro's regime
the so called <<free education>> is not free at all....and so goes for the
Health sytem, which also was FREE prior to kastro's dictatorship.
If you would have visited Cuba prior to this dictatorship...you would see
a much different society and people.
people who were not subdued, supressed in their daily life styles or
activities, and a much more thriving life and economy...
People who were very proud, and would not follow tourits as dogs ...or
asking them anything.
You wouldn't find youngsters in the prostitution business...either...for
the Law in those days forbid the minors to go into prostitution.Also the
lifestyles and families traditions kept the youngsters at bay and in the
right places...or tracks.

A good experience for pepe like you would be to compare Miami cuban
community
with the one you saw in Cuba...go to Miami , visit the cubans there and see
by yourself. Most traditions are still in vogue in most cuban homes. and
lifestyles. Plus
the prosperity, economics and enterprises that they have develped ...would
give you an idea of what Cuba was prior to kkastro.
Yes ! exercise your investigative talents... an check all those aspects
that are now living proof of what CUBA WAS ONCE !

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PEDRO MARTORI

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May 18, 2002, 10:54:06 PM5/18/02
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WHAT AN ASS HOLE...YOU ARE !

Why don't you like to discuss with malanga ?
Who or what do you think are the people in this group , mongolics,
illiterates ?
if your arguments are no good and full of blatant fallacies and
stereotypes or lack in substance...it is not our fault or that of malanga...
by your arguments i can see that you are as stupid as you show...!
What is the problem you have against the West ?
That they didn't allow you people to ethnically clean Yougoslavia or the
Servia_ Herzegovina ? Or now the Kosovo region ?

your hate flows destilling in your rants against the Western countries....
have you cmpared the standards of living in ...say ...for instance,France
with all of those former socialists nations in East Europe ?
mention ne single Westenr europe country to which the natives of those
former <<socialists>> nations did not wanted to escape...

and then mention how many Western country's people who wanted to flee to
those <<socialists>> eastern satellites of the big <socialist> URSS...
but of course...don't forget to explain why in those glorious <,socialists
>> nations...such as East Germany...the regime needed to build that INFAMOUS
WLLLIN BERLIN AND A FENCE 10 FEET HIGH ALL ALONG THE BORDERS...
Question...what were those high towers for all along the fence...and the
german shepard dogs...?


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PEDRO MARTORI

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May 18, 2002, 10:56:39 PM5/18/02
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please feel free to put me too in your blocking list...
I don't like coward, dishonest and hypocrites like you...!
I have Enough with a traitor and coward like KKastro...!


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Spartacus

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May 19, 2002, 1:04:44 AM5/19/02
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BIG fucking deal ,Maggot!\

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Aleksandar Sarovic

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"PEDRO MARTORI" <posei...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message

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> please feel free to put me too in your blocking list...
> I don't like coward, dishonest and hypocrites like you...!
> I have Enough with a traitor and coward like KKastro...!


I am not telling it cannot be better under Castro, but will be worse when
Castro goes (that is inevitable future). This is the simple fact that
happened to all of the former socialist republic. Besides, I do not like
your writing. Your wish will be fulfilled, you are in my block sender list.

Aleksandar


PEDRO MARTORI

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May 19, 2002, 12:31:56 PM5/19/02
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then be my best guest...killfile me...
because you don't even know where you stand...
specially discussing cuban issues with US CUBANS...WHO WERE THERE, LIVE
THERE, STUDIED THERE AND STRUGGLED THERE FOR A BETTER CUBA !
Not for a new Gulag in the americas...THE FIRST ONE btw !

THE REBLE ARMY WASN'T EVEN MORE THAN 500 HUNDRED IN THREE FRONTS...
AND YOU REPEAT THE SLOGAN KASTRO'S ACOLYTES HAVE INVENTED FOR DUMMIES LIKE
YOU...

For your info...I was one of those who fought against Batista's
dictatorship...
Exiled at 17 yrs. of age...in 1957 two years before the advent of the next
tyranny.

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Spartacus

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May 21, 2002, 4:37:31 PM5/21/02
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Who Cares Pinkoid?
I` don`t respect pinkos as i don`t respect murderes and cowards,I think we
all be better when they are all DEAD and BURIED.


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