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THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEMS ( UNION OF MYANMAR)

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mogyothwar

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Dear Myanmar Myo Chits, Patriots and friends,

Our beloved nation Union of Myanmar is problematic. What is the root
of the problems in our beloved nation of Myanmars? Some people said
SPDC, led by Than Shwe is the root of problem . Some said NLD led by
Mrs Aris is the root of problems. Another said its foreign power who
are meddling in Myanmar’s affairs. The other said, the root is the
uncivil war. Some said it is this , some said it is that.

Who are creating these problems ? Do you know? What do you say? Do you
have anything to say? DO you believe in Freedom? Do you believe you
are free from any influence. Do you believe your brain has not been
washed by anybody ? Are youFree?

Then let’s have a good look at Myanmar , from all angles, from every
point of views, every perspective. What is the root of problems in
Union of Myanmar?

There are many different answers to this question by many different
people, in their many different views and many different opinions. The
views and opinion, the way Myanmar look at things, and see things more
different then any other people.

Myanmar was a country with quite a size, according to the map before
the British rule with no border demarcation. During the British rule
Burma ( Myanmar ) was made a part of British India by force. In 1935
it was separated from India. Then Burma (Myanmar) was a nation of its
own with its present border demarcation which the
neighbouring countries legally accepted.

In 1958 , when China and Myanmar agreed on border demarcation. It was
said ,that China accepted as it was drawn up by the British, according
to Latitudes , and Longitudes , the area of 261, 789 sq miles.

The land , the sea, the mountain , the air within that whole area is
called (Burma), Union of Myanmar. Pyi Daung Zu Myanmar Naing Gan Daw.

The divide-and-rule policy with which the British had ruled Myanmar
for over 100 years ( 125 to be exact) paved the way to the out break
of insurrections as soon as it gained independence in 1948.

Diversity of the people of Myanmars was not better under the British.
Under the British the diversity of religions came to exist . It could
be said when King Mindon (U Lwin) came to throne, with his big smile
and his Great generosity to show his loving kindness , to Muslims and
Christians. With those Great Generosity, and Great loving kindness.
Mindon brought another Great diversity of Myanmar people who had to
face the Great Consequences. Myanmars as a nation , Myanmars as the
people dropped from being Great Nation and Great people with Great Way
of life ( Buddhism) to become small nation and small people. Budhism
became ‘one of ’ in Myanmar.

Myanmar has eight major national races with some 135 ethnic groups ,
in which Bamar national race constituted over 70 % . This is one of
the reasons, why British named the Myanmar Naing Gan Daw as Burma.
According to the stone tablet found in Old City of Bagan, dated AD
1190 the word ‘Myanmar’ was used.

As far as , some extreme ethnic groups are concerned, when the nation
was called Burma , they felt that they were left out . Now again when
the nation is renamed to ‘Myanmar ’, they still say t hat they feel
they were left out. Can’t win them all .

Myanmars are too tolerant politically, economically, socially and
religiously, so everybody take advantage on them, and having good free
ride on Myanmars .

Yet some Muslim and some Christians accused Myanmars of practicing
religious intolerance . How much more do they want Myanmar to be
toleranced. How many more wives and more Mosques do they want? How
many Churches do the Christian wants in Myanmar ? Compare to some
Muslims Nation where they allowed no Churches, nor Buddhist
Monasteries? Some people accuse Myanmar of being religious
intolerance. My foot .

Besides many so called Buddhists Monks are not doing their Buddhist
duties, they are doing something else which has totally nothing to do
with them . These are the fakes and bogus who are trying to dirty
Buddhism. After the so called ’ Saffron Revolution” many of them are
found to be some people from ethnic groups , who came into Buddhism,
for many reasons, to escape from the laws, and to escape from hardship
and to destroy Buddhism and to destroy the Government, the nation .
Buddhists Monks are supposed to be disassociated themselves from
ordinary lay man’s life.

Everything in Myanmar is going wrong in the name of democracy, in the
name of human rights, when this democracy and human rights are being
abused.

In my view, the root of the problem is neither Mrs Aris nor the junta
( SPDC). Neither United States or United Kingdom who are heavily
involve or interfering in Myanmar’s domestic affairs. The problems are
not caused by one person , or by a group . If we want to be true to
ourselves, we should open our eyes, ears and minds and look at things
as they are, and accept them as they are, the realities in very
realistic way.

The problems are caused by everybody in one way or the other. If some
concerned people leave Myanmars alone Because they always said, as
they believe, that Myanmars are to solve their own problems, by
themselves. Then they should not get involve, let alone to interfere.

I said this because , since Myanmar gained independence, it chose to
pursue an active and independent policy from the very beginning
adopted a very strict neutral and later strict non-aligned policy
through out.

In pursuance of such a policy Myanmar has been accorded some pluses
mainly enabling her to stay out of regional conflicts. The minuses are
that Myanmnar neither developed capitalist not communist alliance.
When Myanmar became Socialist Country, the Westrn world regarded
Myanmar as a pro-communist state, while the Socialists World upheld
Myanmar as a sort of pseudo socialist nation.
Is that another root of the problem of Myanmar or not you have to
decide.

I could not blame them either, because some Myanmars opposition led by
NLD, invited them to get involved. Hamid Kaizai,of Afghanistan, Maliki
of Iraq did the same. They were told to invite by the outsider to be
legit invitation. For the outsiders it is like the Myannar we saying,
“ Sula Laite Yey De Hlut ”, releasing the tortoise into the water as
punishment.

The invitation of Myanmar’s PM Thein Sein was not that clear. On what
purpose, on what ground and on what reasons he invited US involvement
in which field. We are not told we are not explained. All we know is
something to do with economy, at the time when border area with China
in the Wa region was a little bit unstable. What Thein Sein at the
times said was if economic sanctions on Myanmar were lifted, things
could be much better, SPDC could do more for the progress and more
developments for the nation and the people of Myanmar.

United States make Thein Sein obligated by his own words. They hold
Thein Sein responsible and bind him . Apart from that we are not clear
what political game SPDC is playing through Thein Sein . SPEC allowing
NLD , and Mrs Aris to do some politicking.

Myanmar saying also said, “ Yaw Padamyar - Yaw Nagar ”. As the saying
goes. US and NLD are saying, if you want this , you have to gave me
that. What has SPDC got to give in return? What we know is UN Assembly
condemned Myanmar’s SPDC for violations of human rights. Because UN is
dominated and influence by the West. Other members nations in UN can
do nothing to change that position.

SPDC is preparing to hold election , so US and NLD is spreading the
sesame seeds , ‘Nhan Phyu ’. to make whatever SPDC doing on its own
looks like as if because they are telling SPDC to do. If NLD does not
win the election , that election is not the election, it is fraud, its
rigged, mal practiced, etc., etc. That’s all the opposition’s same old
tricks, everywhere. Manufactured tactic by the west, standardised.

UN does not see the imposition of economic sanctions, calling for
economic sanctions and supporting them and other punitive actions
against Myanmar SPDC is not , does not violates human rights of
Myanmar human beings.

For that I have published “ NONE INTERFERENCE IS NON INTERFERENCE, AS
SIMPLE AS THAT. WOULD YOU LET ME INTERFERE IN YOUR FAMILY AFFAIRS ? ”

The root of the problem is the Democracy itself. The root of the
problem is the people of Myanmar. Because there are those who does not
believe in democracy in Union of Myanmar, long before Mrs Aris or SPDC
came to exist.

The root of the problems in Union of Myanmar is the War Lords, who
cannot give up their rights who loves “Feudal State System” who
sometimes, if not most of the time mix up with “Federal System”.

The root of the problem is the root of democracy which did not take
the root in the ground of Union of Myanmar since 1948. The late Aung
San tried it, the late U Nu tried it, the late tried it in the most
gentle humane ways. They all failed.

The root of the problem is people do not understand about democracy.
When we go through soc.culture.Myanmar discussion forums, we are
seeing many people taking part, but they seems not to know what
democracy or what human rights are all about .
Democracy seems to be just a word they heard from somewhere not
because they know about it. Because nobody taught them about
democracy, to make them understand about democracy . They don’t have
any interest in looking for democracy and study it .

May be because they don’t want to understand democracy, may be because
it is against their own interest. Their interests is the “Feudal State
System,” the only system they know is ‘Feudal State ’. The “Feudal
State System is their way of life.

There are many nations in the world who have change from their ‘Feudal
States System’ led by the War Lords to democracy. ”. Japan before the
emergence of Shogan.
Who solidified it as one nation, and South Africa before the emergence
of Shaka the Zulu who made Zulus United.

At present like it or not. European Nations to unite under the
umbrella of European Union,, one for all and all for one. In other
words, Democracy is for those who knows the value of it , who takes
care of it, who treasures it.

How far are Myanmars from Democracy? How democrats are Myanmars? How
genuine are the Myanmar democrats and how genuine is Democracy for
Myanmar?
The questions raised, because there are fake Myanmar democrats, who
want to introduced or impose the fake democracy in Union of Myanmar.

For that I have published “ Democracy and Myanmar way of life ”.
Please take this as part two of it.

The root of the problem is this democracy which is not home grown.
That is
imported item, too expensive, especially for a country which in figure
of speech has nothing to pay for.

I have said it many times that, Democracy in Union of Myanmar since
1948 was not taken care of by the Myanmars, they did not know the
value of it, they did not treasure it, simple because they did not
want democracy, they did not want to know about Democracy. That is a
part of the root of the problems, in their own interests for their own
interests .

Myanmar Government and leaders stood on the own feet straight, with
their chest out did not ask or invite anyone to help .

Leaders of Myanmar understand very well , the real meaning of
Freedom , Independence, and Sovereignty. They took care of it they put
Myanmar in a right place. For Myanmar to be a Free, to be an
Independent , to be a Sovereign State.
Of course there are thos e who wants to translate or interpret these
words, Free, Independent, Sovereign in their own ways.

Now, as they say The Cold War is over, true or false . I don’t know .
All I am seeing is enemies during cold war period, US led group and
the leader of U.S,S. R, which is now as the leader of Commonwealth of
Independent States (C.I.S) Russia are now together and ganging up on
Afghanistan. I can understand that, because they consider Taliban as
their common enemy. They called Taliban and Al Qaeda as terrorists,
not as Freedom Fighters. They don’t look at them or see them as they
are fighting to defend their own countries from foreign invasions,
though the history shows the people from Europe went around the world
and invaded other nations, and occupied them stole everything and rape
them and claimed everything as theirs.

They think and make others believe especially the younger generation
that others are like them ,others are committing crims for resisting
them whatever they did to others. That is not the tall stories, that
is the true story.

Besides when there was democracy in Union of Myanmar not many
outsiders wanted to help that democracy to take roots in Myanmar. But
they helped, the none believers of democracy, the insurgents again
democratically elected Giovernment of Union ofg Myanmar led by U Nu,
in one ay or the other .

Having said that, many leaders and their children of the insurgents
against the Governments of Union of Myanmar are in US or UK are
granted, political refugees or political asylum status. The latest one
I know is the daughter of one of the KNU leaders the late Phado Mahn
Shah.

So the question is who wants democracy in Union of Myanmar , who
really are opposing democracy in Union of Myanmar, at the time the so
called world is pressing Myanmar to introduce democracy in Union of
Myanmar ? Can it be true that SPDC is against democracy, who supports
SPDC are against Democracy ?

Taliban and Al Qaeda members are called terrorists. Are these Taliban
and Al Qaeda members anti - democracy , or opposition to democracy ?
Do they oppose democracy? I don’t hear them so. Or are they opposing
foreign invasion occupation of their countries? Are they defending and
protecting their own country and their way of life while somebody from
the west trying to imposed their western way of life on them?

Well, everybody is entitled to their opinion and their views of
course.

They may well be another lovers, “ Feudal State System ”, who called
themselves tribal leaders, the tribal elders. Then who really wants
democracy, who really imposing their will and system and way of life
on others, as democracy and human rights?

The root of the problem was this Democracy has brought all these
problems since 1948, through unfinished work of Mrs Aris father Ko
Aung San and those leaders after him. They could not finish it because
the War Lords could not accept that democracy, some of them did not
even want to talk about it.

As a matter of fact that General Ne Win during 1958 -60 as the head of
Provisional Government tried his best to s to Instead they want to
have their own Feudal System, in the form of Federalism, in the form
of Autonomy, in the form of self governing.

The root of the problem was, Myanmar did not know about democracy, The
root of the problem was, some Myanmar don’t even want to be recognised
as Myanmar, to be called Myanmars. .

Again , the democracy they had, they did not take care of it, they did
not value it they did not treasured it. That's the root of the
problems.

Is it only in Myanmar? No I don’t think so. Everywhere where democracy
is being introduced or impose , the same problems come up. In the name
of democracy, in the name of Freedom many were killed, are being
killed . To kill somebody and in the name of democracy and freedom has
become human rights itself.

Those who do not accept, or believe in Western style of Democracy are
to be severely punished. These who do not listen to the west are to be
severely punished, especially small and weak nations such as Union of
Myanmar .

Now the leaders of Myanmar have created a New Constitution 2008, to
replace the old one . Mixed Federalism and Unionism base on
democracy .

One could not imagine how much pressures were put on, harassments and
intimidation or even threat were made on Ko Aung San at the time.
Including to bribe him with a post of Inspector General by the British
to get rid of MyamaTatmadaw.

All in the name of Democracy and Human Rights, British forced him to
draft the 1948 constitution under their influence. Forced him to make
Communist Party illegal or unlawful association which motivated the
Communists to take arm against the Government of Union of Myanmar.

This Constitution of 1948, made possible Kayin National Defence
Organization (KNDO (a) KNU) , took arms against the government of
Union of Myanmar .
This Constitution of 1948 is the spark of all the political fire in
Union of Myanmar.
This Constitution 1948 created racists views, against one Myanmar to
the other Myanmar. This Constitution of 1948 , disunites the people of
Myanmar in the nation of Myanmars.
This Constitution makes Myanmars the fighting cocks in their own
home.
This Constitution of 1948 was the cause of all the bloody events in
the Union of Myanmar.
This Constitution of 1948 was the root of the problems. This root has
been taken out

In figure of speech, every leader, those who called themselves leader
or any group, their hands are still stain with wet blood, and some
people like Mrs Aris, sitting on the carpet, her hands are not only
stain with red blood , but her bum is wet with blood. That carpet is
laid down in the pools of blood of others who fought for democracy.
She is enjoying every minutes of it , every drops of blood making one
comfortable cushion of her seat. The wet blood are Myanmar human
blood, not the ‘wets’ or the ‘pig’s’ blood. She must know.

I am sure, these blood are not the blood of the Warlords, not the
blood of those who wants Feudal States ( aka) their way of Federalism,
these are not the blood of those who oppose democracy. They are the
blood of those who wanted and demanded democracy. Which the West
supports.

In a way, these are not the blood of the War Lords and those who are
obsessed with ‘Feudal States’ with their Private Armies. They neither
want to give up their arms, nor to serve the nation and the people as
border guards,to take responsibility of the nation,by holding their
arms . What they want is something else. The questions are, who armed
them, who funds them ? In the name of what?

Do other Myanmar majority know that, do they ? Does NLD led by Mrs.
Aris know that ?

Now she got rid of old soldiers , to let them fade away. She likes to
start again with the up starts, whom knows nothing about anything.
Just like the boys in a monastery, who recite the Mingala-sutta
without knowing the meaning of it. She is again to be the big boss ,
the cream where there are no creams. Nobody can challenge her within
the rank. Well, that is another story for another time.

For the moment, at present, do you know what is the root of problems
in Union of Myanmar? What do you think, what do you say. You may have
something I don’t know. Why don’t you spit it out for our leaders and
for other leaders to know and to put into consideration . For them to
do something about it in the process of making our country into a
modern developed industrialised democratic Nation or in process of
helping that country.

Nothing to confess, nothing to admit, but as long as everybody knows
what they are doing, right or wrong and adjust them as necessary.
Everything's gonna be alright and fine.

Some people give the excuse as " What I think is right ", acting on
the information that I received". That is not the right answer. That
is the answer of a fool, stupid idiot, an ignorant. What kind of
information are you being fed? What kind of people are your
informers,, their position,their circumstances, their status, their
credibility?

Because the right is right , the wrong is wrong. nobody knows , but
you know it, you know what you do, you know what you have done , you
are the one who know what you did .

Regards,

Mogyothwar.

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ritkyaungthar

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Dear Mogyothwar,
Well written and full of sensible stuffs you've covered, and those
younger Myanmars need to know all about this and understand these
realities. In addition, each and every one to understand the
importance of national security that may not achieve easily and may
not expect with rosy stuffs all the way.

Mg SCB,
Behave yourself and tell us more about how could you possibly
contribute something good for fthe future democratic society of
Myanmar with yours: such lowlife terrible stuffs. What else you could
do other than these lowlifes!

mogyothwar

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On Dec 29 2009, 4:07 am, ritkyaungthar <rit_kyaungt...@hotmail.com>
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Dear ritkyaungthar

Thanks for your support. I tried my best so that nobody can say I
didn’t. I have to thank Labor as well for the opportunity he created
for me to write this ‘THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEMS ( UNION OF MYANMAR)
’possible.

As you have already noticed lowlifes are everywhere. If there are no
lowlife, there can not be highlife. Low or high is not what I am
talking about here .Different views, different opinon are normal, and
accept. But that is not what it is here. Low and high IQ may be, which
I simply want to say as“ common sense ”. Some people have no common
sense at all.

Myanmar saying is “ Htoun Tan Zagar - Ye Yin Paw. ”, which means no
matter how serious you are, how valuable your words may be, there is
always somebody who make them into jokes, be little them , make them
worthless, because they don‘t understand them . But these fools can
fool some body at sometimes , but they cannot fool all the people at
all the time.

Here what I am talking about is the root of the problem of Union of
Myanmar in human language. Mg SCB does not seem to understand any
human language. If he had , he would have join in and expressed his
views. There are may things he does not understand, I have noticed
that.

I don’t think he even understands the meaning of “ The freedom ” and
the rights for the human. What he believes is what he does for
himself , to please himself. He does not care for any other.

As I have said very often, democracy within the frame work, of rules
and laws, and procedures, in other word disciplines are necessity.
Even British PM Gordon Brown in his letter to Mrs Aris said about “
Genuine Democracy”. That is word SPDC uses.

I am not here to translate or interpret what Mr Brown or Mr. Than Shwe
said about “Genuine Democracy” or “Disciplined Democracy”. Because

What I am hearing is the rule of laws from everyone. What I know
through my own experience is that, Democracy is not Chaos. Democracy
is not Anarchy, but Anarchists are everywhere to create Chaos, in the
name of Democracy .

The duty of any government is to protect that Democracy, to defend
that democracy and not to fall into the hands of these Anarchists .

A government has a duty to protect and defends everybody’s human
rights as well as to protect all other people and the nation from
these Anarchists.

If I can translate into Buddhism, stages by stages of understanding
and practicing of the Buddha’s Dhamma. I have heard of stages called
“ Thaw Ta Ban , Anar Gan, and Ariyar”
Which stage SCB is in, I am not sure.

I don’t think Mg. SBC has come to even a low human stage where he can
understand the basis human language, let alone anything about
Democracy or Human Rights, yet.

I just want this New Year mean New to every one especially for him. He
need to improve. his understanding on everything.

This New Year, year 2010, Union of Myanmar is scheduled for General
Elections. This elections must be free from these Anarchists. 2008
referendum was chaos free, anarchy free, because anarchists are out of
Myanmar.

Last but not the least, Democracy or human rights or whatever,
Buddha’s, Confucius’ Christ or Mohammed , whatever their teachings
may be, we the followers have to understand them well, very well the
real meanings of them.

It is not enough just to recital them according to the books. Put,
them into practice is the main part. Regarding this, Buddha was very
clear, to put into practice and to have self experience.

Ritkyaungthar , I have to thank you again, you just given me another
idea of writing another , I will stop here now and start on that , you
will see in it time as next attraction.

Regards,

Mogyothwar.

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