Dear Myanmar Myio CHits , Patriots and Friends,
Gently kicking out the old soldiers .What does it tellng us ? How do
you understand that?
Cheeky and cunning, and sly Mrs Aris has done it finally .
After using the stupid old cants like NLD Chairman Aung Shwe,
secretary Maung Lwin, and executive committee member Lun Tin, she has
booted them out, with just a basket full of X’mas, gifts. That’s all
these old soldiers are worth for betraying the nation and the People.
They are worth only a basket of cheap gifts. The old soldiers fading
away , like any other old soldiers, what a way to go. The time has
revisited upon them or ‘ repercussion’?
Mrs Aris realised that if these old soldiers could betrau-yed the
nation and the people, they could betray her easily, SO she must get
rid of them, now is the right time.
It is said Tin Oo expected that, the man refused to attend the meeting
at the State Guest House. He had it , he had enough of Mrs Aris.
BoGyoke Aung Gyi never trusted Mrs Aris, he did not join her in the
first place. He stayed away from her.
SPDC has to provide the house because of security reasons. Especially
Mrs Aris is in constant danger . There are many U Saws, and Daw Saws
around , even among NLD members. SPDC has to provide her the needed
security. If she refused this security , this time she cannot go an
inch out from her house. Or they might let her go out leaving to “
Kamm Thagar ” to her fate.
In the past, SPDC with good intension tried to provide her the
security or body guards. She refused it, her party refused it instead
she insulted them, her party insulted them. That’s it. She is
confined to her house.
From the very beginning some people saw her using demos ( people) to
cover her true nature or colour of her as own dictatorship,
dictatorial attitude, and behaviours. Most of all , she was said to be
recruited and supported by the CIA of US, and MI6 of UK.
It was said CIA and MI6 have been trying to infiltrate into Myanma
Tatmadaw by recruiting some of the Generals since 1958, but nobody in
Myanma Tatmadaw budged.
As they are , “Myanma Tharr Goungs”.
It is no secret, that CIA wants Myanma Generals to work for them. The
term they use is “ reform minded Generals ”
Inner sources said, the alternative was the late Aung San’s young 26
years old daughter, the most suitable, as she is not married yet
single . Nobody would suspect.
Because she carried her father’s name , she would be one of the most
safest recruits. It is much safer to recruit her then her own brother,
who was not in term with her.
She was recruited with pre arrangements for her to work at United
States Secretariat in New York. as assistant secretary of advisory
committee on Administrative and Budgetary Questions. Then and there
she was groomed by the US (CIA) since 1969 while she was working at
till 1971.
For many Myanmars the word ‘Secretary’ may mean a big word . But she
was just ,
‘ Assistant Secretary ’ . In Myanmar it is as simple as “ Sayey Ma ”.
Assistant Secretary means “Let-htout Sayey Ma ”. That is the best and
nearest translation.
In the western nation and among westerners, ‘Secretary’ means many
thing to many people , Different meanings to different. Some even
don’t like to be called ‘Secretary ‘a lot of things.
Hollywood had made a film called “ The Secretary ” and many other
films shows the very ugly part of being a ‘ Secretary ’.
But for some Myanmars, who thinks too uch of foreigners, as well as
those Myanmars working and living in foreign land , everything foreign
made is the best , even foreign made bottle ‘corks’ and ‘pennies
’ .
Then again after she married to Michael Aris in 1972 in Britain, it
was the MI6 turn. she was trained by the British MI6.
There was no reasons to disbelieve that she was recruited by CIA and
MI6 , Everything fitted. Since she jumped on the wagon in 1988 ,
Americans and British were openly going in and out of her house, it is
said her house sunk one foot into the Inya lake. Because the house was
over crowded, over weight and sunk into the soft soil and slide into
by the lake.
The great opportunity came in 1988, when RIT students had a dispute
with the authorities. Not to mentioned that widow of Aung Sang , Daw
Khin Kyi was ill. The opportunity which could not be missed.
Every thing was also arranged as well especially BBC world Services
correspondent Christopher Gunness was ready in Yangon. Nita Yin Yi May
of British Council in Yangon was assisting him . Before authorities
got him CG left Myanmar, but Nita Yin Yin May went to prison. When she
was released , she not only got a job in BBC but she was awarded OBE ,
by the British Government . British foreign minister Robin Cook handed
her the award.
One of her sons is now working for VOA. Because mother and son cannot
work together in the same Myanmar language service as Nita is till
working at BBC Myanmar language section.
VOA and BBC are campaign stations for Mrs Aris, not to mentioned DVB
in Norway.
That was all the proof and evidence needed for not only foreign
involvement, but also foreign interference in Union of Myanmar.
When all entries were closed , Mrs Aris is quiet. When the gates are
opened again all the advisors gathered around her again and she is
active again. John Yettaw the ex US marine was said to be from CIA.
He may be seen as a gate crasher but he is the gate opener for other
US senator and congressmen and other diplomats to get in touch with
her. Then again she is on the move.
She has nothing to lose, US is backing her up, with all the
harassments, intimidations and threat against SPDC, with economic
sanctions in tact in her favour.
After all United States and UK are the leading nations which are
lecturing not only Myanmar but also everybody in the whole world what
to do, what political system economical system or social system they
must adopt, or else, in the name of Freedom.
People were told or warned that she was a dictator, a fake democrat ,
she is a US puppet by some who know her., Some people even warned
that she is surrounded by the Communists. Now she is getting rid of
Aung Shwe, Maung Lwin and Lun Tin . Does it tell us something?
US representatives were with her a few weeks ago and these happened,
what were their instructions?
Old stupid bulls could not say a thing, could not do a thing . They
know they are done with. The reason could be , they are reluctant to
be recruited by the CIA or MI6. Simple because they happened to be
also Myanma Tharr Goungs.
They saw how Gen Ne Win went, they made that happened, now is their
turn to accept the reality. They could not even smile, I am told,
because they are afraid others might see their mouth with no teeth,
not even they have their dentures.
They are not entitled to “ Sit Mhu Dan Houng Rights ”. That’s because
of their own doing.
It ism understandable, how and why the West want to get rid of
SPDC , Myanmar Tatmadaw. They cannot hide any more, with old or new
generals around Mrs Aris,
They can not do anything to get rid of SPDC. The west wants to replace
Myanmar Tatmadaw with the new Tatmadaw they create, under their
influence, under their control. Like they have in Afghanistan and in
Iraq.
To be able to do that , they also would like to have a permanent
military base in Union of Myanmar. At least in the areas where the
ethnic minorities are active, militarily.
Generals I the SPDC are not that stupid, many people of Myanmars are
not that idiots either to know , what Mrs Aris is doing on behalf of
who.
My suggestion , Mrs Aris born in June 1945 is now, 64. She is at a
very good age herself as a Myanmar woman to go to ‘Yeik Thar’ and
spend the rest of her life there, doing something, preparing for the
smooth transition to next life. ‘Bawa Kuu Koung Bo ’.
Besides Union of Myanmar is already on the road to democracy, She
should not be worried about so much, she should worry about herself.
.
Nobody knows what her next life be , and where she will end up. The
way she is doing, if she does not change, she will end up in one of
the six , below. After all time is too short for everyone, anytime,
any minute, any second or any moment e have to leave.
There is very little she could do.
In Buddhism only everything is “ impermanence “ only “ Anisa ” and
“Dhukka” are permanent they never leave us alone. They are always with
us, as long as we accept them, we make rooms for them around us. Mrs
Aris should accept ‘Anatta’ without question, she is nothing, her
body is nothing her soul is nothing . While she is living, she also
should accept the nature of “ Repercussion”. That does exist. She
should know, her own time, when to quit, with dignity, with pride , if
she had something.
She should realised that she is the subject to this ‘repercussion’.
She should realise that she is suffering, because she makes the people
of Myanmar suffer. Does she not know that. What’s blinding
her ?
She should not be riding on the words of praise and floating in the
air her feet still not touching the ground,she enjoys hearing the
flattering words. She should also takes them as ’
Now when the West and SPDC is trying to talk, if successful she could
be dump at any time. Everybody knows she is a stambling block. She
herself will be get rid of in the end.
Regards,
Mogothwar.
> She should realised that she is the subject to this �repercussion�.
> She should realise that she is suffering, because she makes the people
> of Myanmar suffer. Does she not know that. What�s blinding
> her ?
Repeating your crazy assertions over and over will never make them true.
This is your stupid "head of the state" that is the cause of the sanctions.
I agree that these sanctions are counter productive, a nuke on NPT would
be more appropriate to free all Myanmars.
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"greeboo" <gre...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> MGT, you wrote:
>
>> She should realised that she is the subject to this �repercussion�.
>> She should realise that she is suffering, because she makes the people
>> of Myanmar suffer. Does she not know that. What�s blinding
(> Regards,
(>
(> An.ogothwar/dg sando.
FAKE (SCB Advisory Board <scb....@aesig.org>),
Is that all the best you can do, nothing else?
You cannot talk , you cannot communicate with others.
You have nothing to talk about, because you know nothing.
You don't talk, you are afraid you will make mistakes
When you talk, and whatever you talk ,its nothing worthy.
I ask you again, what do you know about Myanma history, what do you
know about the World History.
You have heard only lies and deceptions from others and you still
don't learn anything about the truth
Becaue they know and they are sure, they can bully you from left and
right, from top and from bottom.
You are that kind of guy.
You think everybody is lying.and deceiving everybody, because you
yourself is a lier and deceiver.
You don't know who is telling the truth and who is telling lies, who
is deceiving you
Because you yourself do not know what is thruth and what is lies, how
you've ben deceived.
If you can only talk, bring out the truth you know, about Myanmar or
about the world, that will be great.
Enlighten yourself, that's the only way.
MGT.
Dear Myan Myo Chits,Patriots & Friends,
That is what I am talking about,
There are those who dislike or who does not know about Democracy. It
is proven day by day that because of these destructive elements
Democracy is becoming cheap and worthless.
For them Democracy means ,free to swear, free to use foul language,
abusive language , free to accuse people , harass and swearing.
Why it take so long to introduce Democracy in Union of Myanmar, what
it did not take root in Union of Myanmar.
Because their nature , their attitude, and behaviours of some so
called Myanmar on this site .
That may be the cause, why SPDC had to take responsibility of the
nation, why SPDC has to introduce democracy and SPDC has to necessary
actions against those who abuse democracy. That is why SPDC has to
guard that Democracy, in years to come.
That may be why, the West has to try and make understanding between
concerned people in Myanmar for democracy in Myanmar. Because through
the internet and many other sources , the so called demo-campers
around are so discouraging, hopeless for the West as well as for all
Myanmars to rely on.
Besides, the west and all concerned people realised that Union of
Myanmar and its people in the hands of these fakes demo campers will
be very much worse.
The west and all concern people realised why SPDC had to do certain
things. The West has its own experience in Afghanistan , and in Iraq,
how difficult it is to introduced democracy in those countries and
what the cost is .
The west is still facing the uncertainty everywhere, where democracy
is concerned because of these destructive elements . They will
destruct democracy, multi party , single party , capitalism, socialism
communism . Because they know nothing but to destruct.
Regards,
MGT.
My dear Lay Bore, ,
This is a special, extraordinaire for you my boy. New Year is coming,
so that you can make a New Year Resolution, a good one.
You must know and realised that not only you and me and a few others
are on, there are those who are watching us and reading our
conversation. They are called ‘silent majority’ with their own free
mind , free will etc. Most of them are sensible people I am sure.
Many are better than you or me. Because you don’t know how deep still
water is.
At least have respect for them , pay the respect to them , that’s all
I am asking from you all. Don’t drag them in to your level to justify
yourself. Let them be, free and independent. don’t try and influence
them against their freedom, against their independence.
Even if you have read my messages you did not understand the meaning.
You did not get my message, because you are uncompromising, your mind
is set up with your own preconceived theories.
If only you had read my messages properly with the interest, you will
understand everything including the problems of Union of Myanmar . You
will understand what Myanmars are going through, in which you may be
one of them. No you are not, you are outside Myanmar like me. You are
not genuine either. You will not go back to Myanmar and help build
the country instead of enjoying the freedom of speech in a democratic
country living on the hand outs , spewing buckets of shit against the
wind to please your step fathers and your in-laws.
If you don’t know something, listen to me, if you don’t want to listen
to me , at least hear me out. Or check the facts . I have said many
things, from every angle, from every point of views and every
perspectives. They all add up to one thing in the end.
You won’t be saying all these rubbishes. Saying rubbish means you are
a rubbish. You are rubbish means you are from the rubbish bin. You are
from the rubbish bin means you are a reject.
For you to say, “ The argument is between a single idiot MGT and the
masses of the world community not to mention the people of Burma.”
Yet you make me feel like a great person by saying that. I am
honoured , greatly, now you are telling me what I am. You think highly
of me, while you snapped at me whenever you have a chance, without
reading my messages properly.
I never thought that I will be so fame and famous. A force to be
reckoned with? I can shake you all. Even you don’t admit or confess
directly, you show that you are shaken by me not stir yet.
I could not blame myself for not making you understand with short to
the points, because , with long messages of mine could not make you
understand anything. Short to the point will be worse.
Let me try again, there is no harm in trying.
The root of the problem is neither Mrs Aris nor the bloody junta.
Don't be surprised tohear it from me like this.
The root of the problem is the Democracy itself. Because there are
those who does not beleieve in democracy in Union of Myanmar, long
before Mrs Aris or SPDC is there.
The root of the problem is the root of democracy which did not takethe
root in Union of Myanmar since 1948. The late U Nu tried it and
failed.
The root of the problem is people do not understand about democracy.
Nobody taught them about democracy.
The root of the problem is this democracy is not home grown. That is
imported item, too expensive, especially for a country which in figure
of speech has nothing.
The root of the problem was this Democracy has brought all these
problems since 1948, through unfinished work of Mrs Aris father Ko
Aung San and those leaders after him.
The root of the problem was, Myanmar did not know about democracy,
they did not take care of it, they did notg value it thyey did not
treasured it.
That's the root of the problems.
I am not sure how much you (Lay Bore) can understand me. But I can’t
stop for the sake of others.
You could not imagine how much pressures were put on, harassments and
intimidation or even threat were made on Ko Aung San at the time.
Including to bribe him with a post of Inspector General by the British
to get rid of MyamaTatmadaw.
All in the name of Democracy and Human Rights, British forced him to
draft the 1948 constitution under their influence. Forced him to make
Communist Party illegal or unlawful association which motivated the
Communists to take arm against the Government of Union of Myanmar.
This Constitution of 1948, made possible Kayin National Defence
Organization (KNDO (a) KNU) , took arms against the government of
Union of Myanmar .
This Constitution of 1948 is the spark of all the political fire in
Union of Myanmar.
This Constitution 1948 created racists views, against one Myanmar to
the other.
This Constitution of 1948 , disunited the people of Myanmar in the
nation of Myanmars.
This Constitution of 1948 was the cause of all bloody events . Every
leader, those who called themselves leaders hands are still stain with
wet blood, and some people like Mrs Aris, sitting on the carpet, which
laid down in the pools of blood.
In that sense her bum is wet with blood. Which blood, whose blood,
blood you have to ask her, If she does not answer you, you may have
to look at where the blood come from . But blood is blood, human
blood if you send it to the laboratory chemical examinor will tell
you , whether human blood or not.
On the other hands people like you could say what she has done cause
no blood, ff course not, She saves blood, has she indeed?
Let’s see, Myanmars according to opposition sources, are starving , no
food, suffering from malnutrition, they are skin and bone, they have
no blood, because of economic sanctions she called and supports.
The behaviour of this junta SPDC or any other junta as Tatmadaw will
do whatever necessary. Some of them may be appalling, absolutely
disgraceful and
totally un fair. Look at United States and it allies in Afghanistan,
or in Iraq. You must have heard of them . Before that in SEA. Vietnam,
Cambodia, and Laos. So to justify yourself you dragged in SPDC to
level with them.
US led allies are afraid , to have debate with Al Quida, or Taleban
on the issues.
They are sending ‘Black-waters’ after those leaders to finish them
off. SPDC has not done it yet on any one.
Because there are no issues, Islam is the issue, Zionists are the
issue for centuries for these Christians. To protect their anti
Islamic attitude and behaviours , and protection for Zionists etc.,
etc., they justify themselves by diverted the attention as “the
control over oil”. When that was not accepted , they said in the name
of , “democracy and human rights ” .
US Present Obama who said on the 9 of June in Egypt ( if my memories
serves me right ), he said that no country has rights to impose any
political system on other countries. For this and others thing he
might have said , he received Noble Peace Prize. He said he does not
deserve it, but yet shamelessly he accepted it . Days after he
accepted his Noble Peace Prize, he send not less the 30, 000 extra US
troops to Afgnanistan, shamelessly.
Who are the liars, who are the deceivers, whom have been lied, who
were deceived, you tell me. You are talking about SPDC.
Do you know what the US and its so called allies are doing there ? If
you don‘t knw I will tell you , they are killing Afghanis and Iraqis
every mkini=ute of the day and blaming on Al Quida and Taleban.
In countries where occupational forces are , Al Quida and Talibans
infiltrated the security fences and barriers, and blown everybody up
including themselves. That is something to think about .
It is also said they admitted, we don’t hear anything they admitted
or confessed. We heard what the media tell us subject to the
information they get from the military communiqué. Media cannot tell
us anything what the military does not allow or permit.
You are yourself may be an insurgent, perhaps a KNU member, a
sympathizer. You talk like them, behave like them , because you are
afraid of debating national issues with them. In fact you can’t go
near them. You have no legs to walk. So you are frustrated and say
anything to discredit them with what you don’t know the meaning .
You ‘Pazut Thanhut Pyit’ from the distance, because you have no guts
at all.
You have avoided the real problems of Union of Myanmar of the past so
you don’t understand what the leaders at present are doing. Looking
for somebody to put the blames on. Just because you don’t want to
know, the problems , things are not going to be better in Myanmar and
for its people.
If you had good studies, you would know imposing democracy, or
implementing democracy everywhere , caused sweat, tears , blood and
lives. When government has to take care of the insurgents, and
rebels , it causes sweat, tears , blood and lives, at anywhere in the
world . Union of Myanmar and SPDC are not exceptional at present and
in the past .
“ one against the masses of the world community”. That itself is
something don’t you think?
Let me put it in three perspectives , three views, United States is
the ‘one’ against the masses of the world community, not to mention
the people of United States. Do you know what I am saying Lay Bore,
do you?
Another view is , Buddha, Confucius , Jesus and Mohammed, they were
alone against the world community in their time. There were those who
liked them and dislike them. But they rule and are ruling within their
own rights against all odd, those who dislike them .
Last but not the least, according to Christianity, God was alone and
when the masses of the world community were wrong, when they did not
take heed of his warnings , he had to do something about them. Not
once , but many times. If you don‘t know what I am talking about ask
any Christian near you, what I was talking about.
I don’t know how true the facts in the Holy Bible are, I have no way
of checking them .
I am not a Christian or a Muslim. Even Moses, when he came down from
Mount Sinai with the so called the tablets of “Ten Commandments” as
the law for all, somebody said the laws takes away the freedom .
Moses said Freedom is by the Law, you have to live by the law and die
by the law, or something like that.
According to you I am the idiot , you are the idiot for me. In that
sense both of us are idiots, that is if there are no other idiots
anymore any where.
As an opposition you have been and you are attacking SPDC, against
anybody , that is understandable. In Myanmar saying, ‘Sher Ayo
Mashi,’ the tongue has no bones. If that is your Freedom to say
anything you like against other , that is your Freedom. Buddha,
Confucius , Jesus and Mohammed, Generals in the SPDC are wrong, you
are right.
Are you from Oxford, Cambridge, Yale or Harvard or any Military
Academy?
Have you ever serve the nation of Myamar and the people of Myanmar to
be called as Public Servant , in Myanmar as ‘ Pyi Thu Wundan ’?
How much educational qualification do you have, or any other
qualification to be called education. Where did you go to school ,
where are you educated, “Manei Palaw” or in one of the refugee camps
in Thailand or living in Chaing Mai?
You cannot do what these Generals are doing. There are those who
dislike the junta, and there are those who likes they. The word you
are using are the words some of the students used in 1960s at the
Yangon University or at least in 1988 who disrupted their own
education. It shows you are not progressing at all.
I don’t know how long you have been living outside, have you achieved
anything?
You can say anything, but I don’t think so, because your usage, your
attitude, your behaviours are the same . Your thinking and your
believes are the same . Nothing have changed.
In my view, you may be the bad example , or the very bad lessons for
those who are searching what democracy is , what Freedom is, or what
human rights are. For those who wants progress.
As I have said some days ago, in this forum that you and some others
like you are the same dog which is catching its own tail, round and
round in the circle, until it drop dead with rabies or to be put down.
One thing for sure lay Bore, I am not you and I am not doing anything
like you.
I can help Myanmar and its people by staying outside. Has it ever
come across your mind that I am needed out here more then in Myanmar
to educate you and you alike.
“ sub - human ”. or not, what I know is human are a kind of animals
or human species . How many parts of human, how many parts of animal.
You have to ask the expert. Check yourself with them first, to see
what you are.
You should know by now that I am a genuine, not a fake like you. You
may have no respect for me, but don’t drag in others as “ nobody ”,
You may not like SPDC but don’t drag others to your level as “ nobody
”. Have respect for them, at least.
Anyway. I have to thank you Lay Bore and some of your friends for
providing ‘free publicity.’ It could have cost me a fortune, if I had
to hire an agency for publicity. Now on your expense. What more
should I want?
All I have to do is to answer your stupid questions with my sense,
common sense. Those who have their own common sense with use their own
common sense. I don’t have to tell them to believe me or not to
believe you. Let them make their choice, let them make their
decision. That is their right, their human rights, because they are
human, which you and I have to respect.
Merry X’mas if you are a Christian . Take time to read the Holly Bible
during this festive season, you will learn plenty, which you never
knew before or as revision to refresh your memory.
Next time when you write to me I would like to see some improvements
in you. The journey is along one. If I can be of no help to Union of
Myanmar and its people, at least I know you are there , I want to rely
on you, I want to leave Myanmars in your safe hands. Good Luck .
Regards ,
Mogyothwar.
Dear All,
If Mrs Aris is getting rid of the old soldiers to fade away
gracefully. what her new team will be made of. With up starts, toy
boys and toy girls? Mrs Aris is clever she made herself the cream
where there are no creams.That's the way it is, that the way she wants
to play her games.Are there any hope this team can give wht its
followers wants . We will soon know. how many followers are still
there for NLD. Or is it the end of NLD ? Why is SPDC so generous
suddenly towards her and her party? What the news does not say is,
that the prosecuting side ( SPDC) will appeal to court as well that
the sentence on her is so lient it should consider harsher. another
five years or so. as far as the laws goes. But to release her or give
her , granty her the amnestry is by the head of the state , in this
case Than Shwe ( President ) in his power.It is up to Than Shwe and
Than Shwe alone. he is to put into consideration whether this woman is
a thretat to national security or not.Than Shwe might consider amnesty
for her, but not because of the pressures from anybody but as he sees
fit. The way I see is, she is openly conspiring with the foreign
powers. National Security is always at risk . One wrong move, or one
wrong word from her will seal her fate. As US diplomats are arriving
in Myanmar, Chinese diplomats are paying Myanmar a visit as well.
Politic is a wide subject. Deplomacy is smooth and gentle. Which
means not waht we are hearing or seeing are all true with the values.
So called white lies and deceptions are always in politic. to secure,
to safe anybody, anything from danger. Who is telling lies, who is
deceiving who . we are seeing everyday.
Sando.