voenna slujba i sledvane
Osman Gurdal
Bih izkal da popitam dali niakoi znae deistvashite zakoni otnosno
voennata slujba i redovnite studenti (undergrad) v chujbina.
Molia pratete mi e-mail ako imate otgovori.
Georgi Petrov
e-mail to : gpe...@uiuc.edu
--
Georgi Petrov
konfiguratsiata na netscape. Az ne sqm nikakqv Osmalia.
Crazy
>
> Izvinete niakakqv tikvenik si beshe slojil imeto i e-maila v
> konfiguratsiata na netscape. Az ne sqm nikakqv Osmalia.
Nishto de, sluchva se. I Osman da si, nyama strashno. :-))
Vizh go Zia! Zia Zia, ama takqv bqlgarski praska, che mamata si
traka ta pushek sa diga! Evala.
...Hey, Zia, tam li si oshte be chovek? Rechi dve dumi na bqlgarski
che da mi stoplish sqrchiceto!
-= Ivan =-
---
BBB
Ataullah A Zia
: Georgi Petrov wrote:
: >
: > Izvinete niakakqv tikvenik si beshe slojil imeto i e-maila v
: > konfiguratsiata na netscape. Az ne sqm nikakqv Osmalia.
: Nishto de, sluchva se. I Osman da si, nyama strashno. :-))
Bravo! Ashkolsun. Mnogo mi haresa tozi otgovor.
: Vizh go Zia! Zia Zia, ama takqv bqlgarski praska, che mamata si
: traka ta pushek sa diga! Evala.
: ...Hey, Zia, tam li si oshte be chovek? Rechi dve dumi na bqlgarski
: che da mi stoplish sqrchiceto!
: -= Ivan =-
: ---
: BBB
Zdravejte!
Ivane,
Mnogo se radvam, che se zavqrna v SCB-to.
Da, oshte sqm tuk. Samo, che se premestih ot Kasas v North Dakota.
Ponyakoga cheta SCB-to.
Predi da napusna Kansas zapoznah se s 3 bqlgarski semejstva, koito imah
chestta da se sebera dva pqti. Te donesoha grozdova, banica i oshte
nyakolko bqlgarski yastia. Namerihme edna kitara i ediniya ot gostite
sviri na kitara. Izpyahme pesni - starogradski i piyanski. Zhena mi
mnogo haresa bqlgarskata broderia. Sinqt mi (shte bqde 6 godishen
v uni) chesto me moli da mu peya bqlgarski pesni:-)). Ko da praish! Dete.
Dogodina zhivot i zdrav, trimata shte otidem v Bqlgaria.
Blagodarya ti za toplite dume otnosno "moyat" bqlgarski. Ama sqm go
pozabravil malko. Kogato byah v Bqlgaria, moite priyateli (bqlgari) mnogo mi pomogaha v izuchavaneto na
ezika i v sledvaneto. Imah priyateli ot vseki kraj v Bqlgaria - i sqm
obikolil cyalata strana. Spomnish li knizhkata za stote (100-te) obekta?
Moyata beshe pqlna.
Iskam da potvqrdya mnenieto ti, che ne e strashno chovek da e Osmalia ili
nyakakqv drug proizhod. Sqrceto e vazhno. Da imash sqrce. Setih se za
tozi sluchai:
Prez 1982 godina byah v Kabul, Afghanistan. Edin sled obyad kato byah na
kratqk otpusk ot kazarmata otidoh na edno kafe v centqra na Kabul s edin
priyatel ot detstvo. Tova beshe 2 chasov otpusk i byah vqv voenna
uniforma - smachkana i mazna. Po edno chuvam bqlgarska rech. To beshe edno
semejstvo s edno 3 ili 4 godishno dete, sednali na sqsednata masa. Po
edno vreme deteto zapochna da ticha nasam-natam, da lazi pod masat.
Vednqzh to se kachi na stola i padna. Gorkoto zapochna da plache.
Bashtata i majkata, uteshavaha deteto. Ama to ne prestavashe da plache.
Az se obqrnah kqm tyah i kazah na deto:
- Unak bez rana ne hodi. Nali si unak? I unacite ne plachat.
Deteto mlqkna. Ama da vidish reakciyata na roditelite. Sqvsem ne ochakvaha
bqlgarska rech v onazi diva oblast na sveta...i to ot edin murgav
afghanski vojnik.
Hajde, nyama da vi skuchaya poveche.
Zhelaya na vsichkite vi priyaten Velik Den!
Pozdravi,
Zia
Crazy
>
> Crazy (Iv...@mindspring.com) wrote:
> : Georgi Petrov wrote:
> : >
> : > Izvinete niakakqv tikvenik si beshe slojil imeto i e-maila v
> : > konfiguratsiata na netscape. Az ne sqm nikakqv Osmalia.
>
> : Nishto de, sluchva se. I Osman da si, nyama strashno. :-))
>
> Bravo! Ashkolsun. Mnogo mi haresa tozi otgovor.
Nali? :-)
Osman si e edno mnogo hubavo tursko ime. hehe.
>
> : Vizh go Zia! Zia Zia, ama takqv bqlgarski praska, che mamata si
> : traka ta pushek sa diga! Evala.
>
> : ...Hey, Zia, tam li si oshte be chovek? Rechi dve dumi na bqlgarski
> : che da mi stoplish sqrchiceto!
>
> : -= Ivan =-
>
> : ---
> : BBB
>
> Zdravejte!
>
> Ivane,
>
> Mnogo se radvam, che se zavqrna v SCB-to.
Az pqk se radvam che ti se zavqrna!
> Da, oshte sqm tuk. Samo, che se premestih ot Kasas v North Dakota.
> Ponyakoga cheta SCB-to.
Az pqk SCB-to go cheta vseki den naposledqk. Mnogo hubavi, interesni
i intriguvashti neshta se kazvat sega v nego. SCB-to sega i to mamata si
traka!
> Predi da napusna Kansas zapoznah se s 3 bqlgarski semejstva, koito imah
> chestta da se sebera dva pqti. Te donesoha grozdova, banica i oshte
> nyakolko bqlgarski yastia. Namerihme edna kitara i ediniya ot gostite
> sviri na kitara. Izpyahme pesni - starogradski i piyanski.
Tsk-tsk-tsk... pusti Zia. I grozdova i banica che i piyanski pesni!
Aferim!
> Zhena mi
> mnogo haresa bqlgarskata broderia. Sinqt mi (shte bqde 6 godishen
> v uni) chesto me moli da mu peya bqlgarski pesni:-)). Ko da praish! Dete.
Ami pey mu be, Zia, pey mu!
"Otdole ide Iiiriinaaaaa, otdole idee Iiirina, oh aman aman..."
Shto da ne mu popeesh na deteto?
> Blagodarya ti za toplite dume otnosno "moyat" bqlgarski.
Hey, koeto si e verno, verno e. Zanzibarcite ryapa da yadat!
> Ama sqm go
> pozabravil malko. Kogato byah v Bqlgaria, moite priyateli (bqlgari) mnogo mi pomogaha v izuchavaneto na
> ezika i v sledvaneto. Imah priyateli ot vseki kraj v Bqlgaria - i sqm
> obikolil cyalata strana. Spomnish li knizhkata za stote (100-te) obekta?
> Moyata beshe pqlna.
Ha! Az pqk za tova sqvsem byah zabravil. I az imah takava edna
knizhka. Beshe neshto s turizqm svqrzana (az malko planinar byah kato
studentche) i se shmatkah po rodnata krasiva zemya, kogato mozheh. Spomnyam
si za nyakakva knizhka s obekti i kak mi ya podspisvaha, ama ne si spomnyam
kakva beshe tochno cyalata delavera. Za kakvo ya podpisvaha, ne znam.
> Iskam da potvqrdya mnenieto ti, che ne e strashno chovek da e Osmalia ili
> nyakakqv drug proizhod. Sqrceto e vazhno. Da imash sqrce.
Aha. Az znam turci koito sa po-bqlgari i ot bash bqlgarite.
> Setih se za
> tozi sluchai:
<snip>
> - Unak bez rana ne hodi. Nali si unak? I unacite ne plachat.
>
> Deteto mlqkna.
Sha mlqkne ami! I az tam da byah, i az shtyah da mlqkna! (nishto che
ne sqm dete). :-))
> Ama da vidish reakciyata na roditelite. Sqvsem ne ochakvaha
> bqlgarska rech v onazi diva oblast na sveta...i to ot edin murgav
> afghanski vojnik.
Abe to i nie ne sme bash svetlokozhi i sineoki, ...pa i nashata
oblast malko divichka pada. Ama to tova ne e vazhno. Deto ti vikash - sqrceto
e vazhno!
> Hajde, nyama da vi skuchaya poveche.
Ne skuchaesh. Mnogo dazhe si ni priyaten.
> Zhelaya na vsichkite vi priyaten Velik Den!
Blagodarya podobno. Cunkay zhenata i decata ot men.
Pozdravi,
Borislav Simov
>Ataullah A Zia wrote:
>> Ama sqm go
>> pozabravil malko. Kogato byah v Bqlgaria, moite priyateli (bqlgari) mnogo mi pomogaha v izuchavaneto na
>> ezika i v sledvaneto. Imah priyateli ot vseki kraj v Bqlgaria - i sqm
>> obikolil cyalata strana. Spomnish li knizhkata za stote (100-te) obekta?
>> Moyata beshe pqlna.
> Ha! Az pqk za tova sqvsem byah zabravil. I az imah takava edna
>knizhka. Beshe neshto s turizqm svqrzana (az malko planinar byah kato
>studentche) i se shmatkah po rodnata krasiva zemya, kogato mozheh. Spomnyam
>si za nyakakva knizhka s obekti i kak mi ya podspisvaha, ama ne si spomnyam
>kakva beshe tochno cyalata delavera. Za kakvo ya podpisvaha, ne znam.
Za stogodishninata ot osvobozhdenieto na Bylgaria (1978) biaha
tezi knizhki. Az ot tiah samo si spomniam Pametnika na vryh Shipka -
ostanalite 99 neshto mi se gubiat.
--
Borislav Simov, Graduate Student in Computer Science
Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa, USA
http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~simov/homepage.html
Ataullah A Zia
: Crazy <Iv...@mindspring.com> writes:
: >Ataullah A Zia wrote:
I az ne si spomnyam tochno. No si spomnyam, kqdeto otvah, te udreha edin
pechat, koeto ne e losho. Spomnyam si za tezy obekti, koito imaha
znachimost za turizma i "promotion of the national entity"?
1. Vrqh Musala - Prekrasno myasto za zimen i leten otdih.
2. Krimikovci - ne znam kakvo beshe znachimostta na tozi zavod, osven
pushek..,
3. Koprivshtica - edin ili dva pechata.
4. Belogradchishkite skali - hubavo mysto
5. Veliko Tqrnovo - dva ili tri pechata
6. Mavzuleyat na Georgi Dimitrov -
7. Cqrkvata - Alexandqr Nevski
8. Xydozhestvenata Galeria - na bul. Ruski (?)
9. Ropotamo - kraj moreto
10. Sandanski - Do Macedonians drool over it?
11. Melnik - specialno Cincarovata kqshta
12. Gabrovo - vqzrozhdenska arhitiktura, specialno v selo Bozhenci.
13. Selo Vodenichene, Yambolsko - Nacionalni nosii i tanci - "Proleten Tanc"
Tez chergi shareni koj gi teche??
Tez bulki huvavi.. :-)
14. Balchik
15. Rilskia Manastir
16. Kovachevica - v Rodopite (?)
17. Koprivshtica, razbira se - stolicata na pesenta. I vinoto, pqrzholite...
18. Trojanskiya manastir - i rakiyata - rrrazbirrra se
19. Vrqh Botev
20. Etnografskiya Muzei(?) v Sofia.
21. Rozhenskiya Manastir - okolo Melnik
Ne sqm siguren, obazhe mislya, che tezi byaha nyakoi ot obektite na tazi
knizhka. Da, razbira se, zabravih Felibeto - naj-malko tri pechata :-)
Gusto majna.
Ako nyakoj znae za poveche ot tezi obekti ili mesta ot istorichest i
nacionalna znachimost molya kazhete.
Pozdravi,
Zia
Vladimir Alexiev
> Aha. Az znam turci koito sa po-bqlgari i ot bash bqlgarite.
Az pyk znam afganci :-)
A rabotata sys stote obekta beshe taka: hodish, te ti podpechatat, i trupash
v onazi knizhka kato pchelichka. Posle ti davat znachka ili neshto podobno.
Imashe i edni ne-specificirani obekti, kato "TKZS" i "kyshta na partizanski
yatak".
Yordan Rouskov
>
>Crazy <Iv...@mindspring.com> writes:
>
>>Ataullah A Zia wrote:
>
>>> Ama sqm go
>>> pozabravil malko. Kogato byah v Bqlgaria, moite priyateli (bqlgari) mnogo mi
>pomogaha v izuchavaneto na
>>> ezika i v sledvaneto. Imah priyateli ot vseki kraj v Bqlgaria - i sqm
>>> obikolil cyalata strana. Spomnish li knizhkata za stote (100-te) obekta?
>>> Moyata beshe pqlna.
>
>> Ha! Az pqk za tova sqvsem byah zabravil. I az imah takava edna
>>knizhka. Beshe neshto s turizqm svqrzana (az malko planinar byah kato
>>studentche) i se shmatkah po rodnata krasiva zemya, kogato mozheh. Spomnyam
>>si za nyakakva knizhka s obekti i kak mi ya podspisvaha, ama ne si spomnyam
>>kakva beshe tochno cyalata delavera. Za kakvo ya podpisvaha, ne znam.
>
>Za stogodishninata ot osvobozhdenieto na Bylgaria (1978) biaha
>tezi knizhki. Az ot tiah samo si spomniam Pametnika na vryh Shipka -
>ostanalite 99 neshto mi se gubiat.
>--
>Borislav Simov, Graduate Student in Computer Science
>Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa, USA
>http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~simov/homepage.html
Abe Obekta beshe sreshtu sgradata na televiziata ama ne mu pomnia
nomera. Ne viarwam da sa go pisali po knizhki :)
dancho
--
The opinions expressed in this message are my own personal views
and do not reflect the official views of Microsoft Corporation.
Slavko Mangovski
On 8 Apr 1996, Vladimir Alexiev wrote:
> In article <316616...@mindspring.com> Crazy <Iv...@mindspring.com> writes:
>
> > Aha. Az znam turci koito sa po-bqlgari i ot bash bqlgarite.
>
> Az pyk znam afganci :-)
>
I az poznavam takiva: I.Talev, G.Phillipov i drugi obshte poznati. Edno
sqshto: ne sq bqlgari no se po-bqlgari ot povecheto bqlgari. Nie
Makedoncite imame edna duma za takiva: "izrodi."
Slavko Mangovski
On 8 Apr 1996, Vladimir Alexiev wrote:
> In article <316616...@mindspring.com> Crazy <Iv...@mindspring.com> writes:
>
> > Aha. Az znam turci koito sa po-bqlgari i ot bash bqlgarite.
>
> Az pyk znam afganci :-)
>
The above writer states that he know Turks that are more Bulgarian then
the Bulgarians themselves. We also know some "Macedonians" who seem to be
inflicted by the same syndrom: Ilya Talev, George Phillipov and some
others... One has to wonder if the above is not contagious (ala mad cow
disease) considering the effects it has on the bearers...
Plamen Malinov
>> In article <316616...@mindspring.com> Crazy <Iv...@mindspring.com>
writes:
>> > Aha. Az znam turci koito sa po-bqlgari i ot bash bqlgarite.
>> Az pyk znam afganci :-)
>I az poznavam takiva: I.Talev, G.Phillipov i drugi obshte poznati. Edno
>sqshto: ne sq bqlgari no se po-bqlgari ot povecheto bqlgari. Nie
>Makedoncite imame edna duma za takiva: "izrodi."
>The above writer states that he know Turks that are more Bulgarian then
>the Bulgarians themselves. We also know some "Macedonians" who seem to be
>inflicted by the same syndrom: Ilya Talev, George Phillipov and some
>others... One has to wonder if the above is not contagious (ala mad cow
>disease) considering the effects it has on the bearers...
De bre, Slavko !
We can remember the crosspost from list.bitserv.maked. from February 1996,
where you have claimed, that your mother is a Bulgarian Tatar (Tartar). And
then Georgi Philipov asked about the family of your father - it is quite
strange, as your abbreviation <ma...@gate.net>. Are you Makedonetz?
Ilya Talev, George Phillipov and many others are reasonable men, which know
the history more than you. But why don,t you go to the library and try to
read some books, which are not written in Skopje?
Regards : Plamen Malinov
Plamen Malinov
P.S. Our <ma...@gate.net> has been crossposted his posting twice. Because of
that, I ought to follow up it twice, for which I apologize myself to the
readers.
george phillipov
Distribution:
Slavko Mangovski (ma...@gate.net) wrote:
:
:
: On 8 Apr 1996, Vladimir Alexiev wrote:
:
: > In article <316616...@mindspring.com> Crazy <Iv...@mindspring.com> writes:
: >
: > > Aha. Az znam turci koito sa po-bqlgari i ot bash bqlgarite.
: >
: > Az pyk znam afganci :-)
: >
:
: The above writer states that he know Turks that are more Bulgarian then
: the Bulgarians themselves. We also know some "Macedonians" who seem to be
: inflicted by the same syndrom: Ilya Talev, George Phillipov and some
: others... One has to wonder if the above is not contagious (ala mad cow
: disease) considering the effects it has on the bearers...
What Can I Say? Except I am "inflicted"!
Just like my ancestors - just like Goce Delchev - just like Dame Gruev
just like Hristo Tartarchev - just like Mara Bouneva - just like G Petrov
just like Grigor Purlichev - just like the Miladinov Bros
just like 100,000's of patriotic Macedonians who were also "inflicted" by
a disease that protected them against developing "amnesia" about who and
what they were.
The trouble with Slavko, is that illusion for him is the only way to
justify his "spitting" on the graves of his Macedonian people.
They will finally judge him. He only has to wait.
George
Boris Docevski
In article <317e4...@eden.adam.com.au>, geop...@adam.com.au (george
phillipov) wrote:
> What Can I Say? Except I am "inflicted"!
Nothing...You're so pathetic, Mr. Phillipou/Phillipov/maybe
Phillipovich in the near future, too... :-))))))))))))))))
Boris Docevski (bd...@cornell.edu)
Section of Genetics and Development
Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853, USA
http://www.isc.rit.edu/~bvs4997/Macedonia
http://www.cs.rit.edu/~bvs4997/faq
http://www.worldmusic.com/lebisol
http://www.itl.swcp.com/itl
Borislav Stojanov
In article <bd18-25049...@132.236.176.29>, bd...@cornell.edu (Boris
Docevski) wrote:
+In article <317e4...@eden.adam.com.au>, geop...@adam.com.au (george
+phillipov) wrote:
+
+
+> What Can I Say? Except I am "inflicted"!
+
+ Nothing...You're so pathetic, Mr. Phillipou/Phillipov/maybe
+Phillipovich in the near future, too... :-))))))))))))))))
+
+ Boris Docevski (bd...@cornell.edu)
+ Section of Genetics and Development
+ Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853, USA
+ http://www.isc.rit.edu/~bvs4997/Macedonia
+ http://www.cs.rit.edu/~bvs4997/faq
+ http://www.worldmusic.com/lebisol
+ http://www.itl.swcp.com/itl
Boris Dochevski/Docevski/maybe Dochev in near past, too... :))))))))))).
--
Borislav Stojanov
Ilya Talev
In article <bd18-25049...@132.236.176.29>, bd...@cornell.edu says...
>
>
>> What Can I Say? Except I am "inflicted"!
>
>
> Section of Genetics and Development
> http://www.cs.rit.edu/~bvs4997/faq
> http://www.worldmusic.com/lebisol
> http://www.itl.swcp.com/itl
Look who's talking!
The Boy Wonder with the Bulgarian name, who hates so much everything
that starts with the letter "B" - including, I guess, his own self!
Let me tell you something, Smarty, about the man you are trying to
make fun of. He was born in a Bulgarian town near the Aegean, in exactly
the same year that the Yugo-Communists re-baptized your family for the
second time, from "Dochevich" to "Dochevski" (remember the original form?).
So, George was named by the Greeks "Phillipou" because that is how the
Greeks name most of their citizens - with the "-ou" ending. Then the
Bulgarian Communists, working in concert with Tito, tacked the "-ski" ending
onto his older brother's name, making the monstrosity "Filiposki". George
does not have a headful of mush, like you do: he knows who he is - he is a
Macedonian from Australia, and he is proud of his real ancestors.
You can keep on spitting on the graves of your ancestors until the Albanians
take over your country and make your children speak a language you don't
understand and make you change your family name for the third time. You've
asked for it, and you'll get it. I won't be around to see the new phonetic
shape of the original "Dochev" name, but it will appear sooner than you think.
Your sad uncle,
Ilya Talev
Gregory Dandulakis
In article Ilya Talev <ta...@access.digex.net> wrote:
...
>So, George was named by the Greeks "Phillipou" because that is how the
>Greeks name most of their citizens - with the "-ou" ending.
Ilya, I don't know the specific case of Phillipou/ov (which is mis-
pelled in Greek, with the proper name being Philippou ("hippos"
means" horse"); something which _very_ strongly indicates that the
name Phillipou was _not_ selected by an official when the name was
recorded for the first time; Phillip- is a western european name)),
but the suffix -ou is not the most common in greek.
Most frequent suffixes (usually associated with region of origin)
are: -opoulos, -idis, -akos, -akis, -atos, or plain -os, -is, -as.
-ou is less common. There are very many with turkish ending -oglou,
some with slavic -of (Moskof, Averof, Kolozof, Yovannof), -ef (Kitroef),
-its, and some with western european origin names (like the current
leader of the opposition conservative party Evert (his name is german),
Koch, etc). There are also the armenian endings -ian.
Gregory
Yiannis G.
gd...@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Gregory Dandulakis) wrote:
> Phillip- is a western european name)),
^^^^^^^^^^--->Philip comes from the Greek Philippos or Filippos if you
so prefer. as for the double L instead of double P you are right it is
possible a mispeling.
>Gregory
Vasilis Psarras
George Karadov
Boris Docevski (bd...@cornell.edu) wrote:
: In article <317e4...@eden.adam.com.au>, geop...@adam.com.au (george
: phillipov) wrote:
: > What Can I Say? Except I am "inflicted"!
: Nothing...You're so pathetic, Mr. Phillipou/Phillipov/maybe
: Phillipovich in the near future, too... :-))))))))))))))))
Borkata again aplys the mind bomb to himselfe -he is obviously adicted
and can not live with out his daily dose of hatred and neo-natsi idiology.
Georgi Karadjov
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Gregory Dandulakis
In article <4luavl$k...@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>,
You are in my kill-file in SCG. Here you escaped.
Gregory
PS: From the Random House Dictionary (College ed.), 1968, p. 1554:
"_Philip_ < Greek: lover of horses. Also, _Phillip_."
Conclusion: _Phillip_ is a _western European_ word derived
(by institutionalizing mispelling) from the word _Philippos_.
Slavko Mangovski
Plamen Bliznakov wrote:
>
>
> > >> > Aha. Az znam turci koito sa po-bqlgari i ot bash bqlgarite.
> >
> > >> Az pyk znam afganci :-)
> > >The above writer states that he know Turks that are more Bulgarian then
> > >the Bulgarians themselves. We also know some "Macedonians" who seem to be
> > >inflicted by the same syndrom: Ilya Talev, George Phillipov and some
> > >others... One has to wonder if the above is not contagious (ala mad cow
> > >disease) considering the effects it has on the bearers...
>
> Here is a nice sample of primitive Macedonianism.
>
> Macedonianism relied upon harassment (starting from "peer pressure" and
> ending up with jail and murders) since WW II to prevent Macedonians from
> identifying as Bulgarians by nationality (or even from having an
> objective
> view on history). Slavko (and alikes) demonstated such tactics already
> on a mailing list which is supposed to serve primarily Macedonians from
> the Republic of Macedonia. Now he even tries to harass Macedonians who
> never were citizens of the Republic of Macedonia.
> > IMHO, the intolerance of the Macedonianism towards the
> self-identification
> and the cultura values of the population of Macedonia is the major
> threat
> for the stability in the whole region and specifically the country under
> the same name.
>Above is even nicer sample of primitive and evil, albeit stupid
rhetoric. Mr. Bliznakov likes to think himself as expert on Macedonia
yet it's obvious he has never been there. In his fantasy world RM is ruled
by evil Serbians who torture and tyranize the population and prevent it
to self-identify itself as "Bulgarians." Mr. Bliznakov has constructed his
dream world based on propaganda fabricated in Sofia and on hearsay from
those he chooses to defend in this post. That only, of course, shows
that all these people and all that literature has no connection with
reality. A fact quite clear to all those who have been to RM or any
other part of Macedonia.
Mr. Blizankov likes to call all those millions who self-identify as
Macedonians as "Macedonists" a term invented by his copatriot P.R.
Slaveykov about 150 years ago. We all know that history is repeating
itself but one has to ask when one will give up? We can assume that
Mr. Bliznakov is a hard-headed Bulgarian but enough is enough.
I'm being accused of "harassing" people, "Macedonians" to be more
precise, or bulgaroman sellouts, if you prefer (I know I do)?! Harass?
Do I write private mail to a or telephone this people to abuse them
or do I just mock them on anm?
The most curious thing is that Mr Bliznakov doesn't refute my initial
allegiation in this thread which was about converts being "more
catholic then the Pope" so to speak. I guess that is because it's
true fact.
True to the tradition of the thief accusing the victim of robbery
Mr. Bliznakov "humbly" thinks that people like me will destabilise
Balkans. Perhaps: people like me undertake to make "official"
homepages of foreign nations in order to disseminate propaganda;
people like me contribute daily propaganda in order to show a
foreign nation that it really is not what it thinks it is but rather
whatever the propganda books printed in the neighbouring country
say etc.
> Plamen Malinov wrote:
> > Ilya Talev, George Phillipov and many others are reasonable men, which know
> > the history more than you. But why don,t you go to the library and try to
> > read some books, which are not written in Skopje?
>
> Slavko has already demonstrated in public on the net he is not
> interested
> in the objective of the history of Macedonia. To him (and similar
> Macedonists)
> these discussions are about propaganda, about "scoring points".
> On the contrary. History of Macedonia is my hobby and I have most
history books written on Macedonia (including those printed in
your home country which might not be valid anymore considering
the extensive rewriting of history books undergoing there since
you ceased to be a Soviet satellite).
Luben Boyanov
Slavko Mangovski wrote:
[rubbish - deleted]
Vupreki, che stila na Mango e malko po-razlichen ot tozi na B Docevski,
sustnostta mu e sustata. Da ne zabravqme, che Mango e bil stotici puti
(veroqtno s diplomaticheska misiq na teiko mu) v Pirin, kudeto e bil
mnogo razocharovan, che mnozinstvoto Bulgari ne sa stanali makedonisti.
Edinstveniq argument na Slavko e nqkakvo pismo na P. Slaveikov ot predi
150 godini ... i tokoz. Ostanalite mu "iztochnici" (smeshno e toi da
rvurdi, che bil imal mnogo literatura po MV, stoto si durji na Skopskata
propaganda i ne go interesuva istinata) bqha dokazani nqkolko puti po
mrejata,che sa citirani izvun kontekst ili napulno izibratelno.
Izvoda e - po stil na pisane Mango i Borkata sa razlichni, no po
sudurjanie - sustite. Izvodite sa qsni. Zasto li nqkoi prizovavat za
simpatiq kum tezi enichari?
Pozdravi,
Luben