Drunk drivers "executed" in Bulgaria ?
antonio
http://www.aci.it/studiericerche/pdf/Patente_a_punti.pdf
in page 70, you can read (in english translation):
"In Bulgaria the second time a driver is caught when driving while drunk is
also the last one: the sanction is the execution (meaning, I think, clearly,
death penalty... ).
Is it really true ??!!
Thanks.
Dragomir R. Radev
Of course it is true... but it is supposed to be a secret. Imagine the
poor driver's face before the military squad - you can rest assured
that he won't drink and drive any more. I wonder how many Lire
Fondazione Filippo Caracciolo paid for this information.
D.
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>Thanks.
>
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Ilya Talev
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Well, now, Antonio has a legitimate question.
The answer is: The Death Penalty was abolished
in Bulgaria in December 1998. So, it is up to Antonio
to draw his own conclusions as to the veracity of the
information he relies upon.
antonio
If that is an hoax, I'm suprised, as that Foundation is very close to the
Autom. Club of Italy, a sort of para-governamental body...
Thanks, Mr. Radev.
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Dragomir R. Radev
Of course I am joking. Can you honestly believe that a European
country can do something like this (well, at least, after the end of
Communism)?
As Mr. Talev indicated, Bulgaria abolished the death penalty some time
back. Some legal expert may be able to clarify the actual law.
Drago
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Ilya Talev
"antonio" <torreau...@tin.it> wrote in message
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> Thanks, Mr. Talev.
>
I did some research and found out the following:
The last Death Sentence imposed in Bulgaria
came down on November 26, 1998, after a
twenty-year hiatus. The unlucky guy was the
37-year-old Kiril Ivanov Angelov of the city of Varna.
He had spent the previous 17 yrs in various prison
for crimes ranging from petty theft to the rape of his
niece. In the Summer of 1997, just after his release
from prison, he murdered his 63-year-old mother
Nadka Kamenova, because he disliked her body odor.
The abolition of the Death Penalty came a few weeks later.
I cannot find any reference as to whether Mr. Angelov's
sentence was carried out (I seriously doubt it, because
of the open-ended appeal process in Bulgaria).
Anri Erinin
Ilya Talev wrote:
> "antonio" <torreau...@tin.it> wrote in message
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>>Thanks, Mr. Talev.
>>
>
> I did some research and found out the following:
> The last Death Sentence imposed in Bulgaria
> came down on November 26, 1998, after a
> twenty-year hiatus. The unlucky guy was the
> 37-year-old Kiril Ivanov Angelov of the city of Varna.
> He had spent the previous 17 yrs in various prison
> for crimes ranging from petty theft to the rape of his
> niece. In the Summer of 1997, just after his release
> from prison, he murdered his 63-year-old mother
> Nadka Kamenova, because he disliked her body odor.
>
> The abolition of the Death Penalty came a few weeks later.
> I cannot find any reference as to whether Mr. Angelov's
> sentence was carried out (I seriously doubt it, because
> of the open-ended appeal process in Bulgaria).
The last execution in Bulgaria took place on 4 November 1989, but the
courts continued to pass death sentences on those convicted of
aggravated murder.
....
On 27 November 1998, deputies from all parliamentary factions voted in
favor of the abolition of the Death Penalty.
http://www.willamette.edu/wits/llc/worldnews/xmar03a/artbulg.html
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>
>
> The last execution in Bulgaria took place on 4 November 1989, but the
> courts continued to pass death sentences on those convicted of
> aggravated murder.
>
> ....
>
> On 27 November 1998, deputies from all parliamentary factions voted in
> favor of the abolition of the Death Penalty.
>
> http://www.willamette.edu/wits/llc/worldnews/xmar03a/artbulg.html
This information was supplied by a student at Willamette,
citing reports by Amnesty International. However, Amnesty
based its report on UNOFFICIAL documents, one of which
must have been the 1989 report by the Bulgarian branch of
the organization. That document lists only four CONFIRMED
death sentences in 1989 in appellate procedures at two
DIFFERENT court levels - District and Supreme.. So, mixing
apples and oranges, Amnesty International comes up with
the figure of 19 death sentences for the entire period, none of
them carried out.
Ilya Talev
for the typo.
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antonio
discussed in this same NG starting from a message posted by Emilia Entcheva
on 14 nov 1997. The complete thread can be seen searching through Google -
groups, typing "bulgaria driving".
See also in http://www.aubgalumni.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=38 .
Six years later the hoax continues to be disseminated ....
Thanks again to all of you.
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antonio
discussed in this same NG starting from a message posted by Emilia Entcheva
on 14 nov 1997. The complete thread can be seen searching through Google -
groups, typing "bulgaria driving".
See also in http://www.aubgalumni.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=38 .
Six years later the hoax continues to be disseminated ....
Thanks again to all of you.
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Ilya Talev
> I managed to find (indirectly) the origin of the hoax ! That topic was
> discussed in this same NG starting from a message posted by Emilia
Entcheva
> on 14 nov 1997. The complete thread can be seen searching through Google -
> groups, typing "bulgaria driving".
> See also in http://www.aubgalumni.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=38 .
> Six years later the hoax continues to be disseminated ....
> Thanks again to all of you.
A hoax is a hoax, but I notice an interesting
pattern: in the Study you relied on, a number
of Old World countries - Norway, Finland, Sweden,
England, France, Poland, and two New World
countries - Costa Rica and El Salvador are
unaccountably omitted from the "hoax" list:
Norway: Three weeks in jail doing hard labor, and a one-year loss of
license. Second offense and license is revoked for life.
Finland and Sweden: Automatic jail for one year doing hard labor.
Costa Rica: Police remove plates from car.
England: One-year suspension of license, a $250 fine, and jail for one year.
France: Three-year loss of license, one year in jail, and a $1,000 fine.
Poland: Jail, fine, and forced to attend political lectures.
El Salvador: This country is unique in that it has absolutely no repeat
offenders: drunk driving is punishable by execution by firing squad.
See the Hoax: http://cda.mrs.umn.edu/~sadd/laws.html
See the p. 70 of the Learned Study of FONDAZIONE
FILIPPO CARACCIOLO CENTRO STUDI:
http://www.aci.it/studiericerche/pdf/Patente_a_punti.pdf