In Bulgaria, 10 Years of Misery
bozil zaharieff
http://www.nytimes.com/99/11/11/oped/11donc.html
November 11, 1999
In Bulgaria, 10 Years of Misery
By BLAGOVESTA DONCHEVA
SOFIA, Bulgaria -- We here in
Bulgaria have had democracy since
1989. What has happened during these
last 10 years?
The International Monetary Fund and
the World Bank are successfully
devouring Bulgarian industry. They
have insisted on the privatization of
Bulgaria's plants and factories. In
many cases, the Bulgarian government,
which diligently follows the I.M.F.'s
advice, sold these factories to
powerful foreign corporations. And
these corporations often liquidated
the businesses (a new way to fight the
competition!).
What is the result? Hordes of
unemployed workers, beggars in the
streets, old people digging in rubbish
containers for some rag or moldy piece
of bread.
Our social fabric is falling apart.
Before 1989, Bulgaria was a socialist
state: free medical care and education
for everyone. Mothers and the elderly
received other aid and privileges.
Now, since the fall of Communism, I
see more and more children who have
dropped out of public school. Their
parents cannot provide them with shoes
and clothes, never mind textbooks and
paper.
Things are no better for the elderly.
In 1989, my friend's mother's pension
had been about 105 leva a month. Now
it is 46 leva a month, a little more
than $24.
There are many people, especially
those who are older than 30, who are
not working. Nobody needs them; nobody
offers work to them. The job offers in
the newspapers repeatedly demand that
applicants be no more than 30 years
old. And even if you are under 30,
what do you get? You have the chance
to slave for 12 hours for next to
nothing for a newly hatched business.
In January, the last remnants of our
socialized state will be taken away.
The government will no longer
subsidize train tickets for students,
the elderly and mothers with children.
This means that people will be forced
to stay either in the towns or in the
villages, which will hurt active
pensioners and the unemployed. Now,
they add to their meager family
incomes through some occasional jobs
in the towns, or they go to the
village and grow vegetables and fruit
for the winter in their fathers'
gardens. It made economic sense when
they were traveling by train at half
price. After the new year, it will be
senseless.
We are undergoing untold hardships,
yet George Soros, the financier, eggs
us on, telling us to open our
boundaries, make ourselves an open
society. But we in Bulgaria have
learned the hard way what those pretty
slogans mean. It means killing the
industry that is managing to stay
alive in Bulgaria. Turkish imports are
flooding the market. Socks made in
Bulgaria are selling for 1 leva; I
have seen Turkish socks, selling for
half a leva. So soon we will have only
Turkish socks, and no jobs.
Lots of low-quality food products and
other goods flow freely into Bulgaria,
undermining the efforts of local
producers. I have a cousin who has a
small farm with four cows. He hasn't
been able to sell his calves for two
successive years. He is crushed. The
companies that buy veal explain that
they prefer to work with the frozen
meat imported from Greece at low
prices, ready to be stuffed and turned
into salami or sausages.
What is the West offering us in return
for this misery? What is the great
attraction for a foreign corporation
in a devastated country? The cheap
labor and national resources!
So much for open boundaries. So much
for an open society. I personally live
in misery, but I can still manage. It
is the sight of the old men and women
digging into the rubbish containers
that is breaking my heart.
Before the fall of Communism, I and
many others believed that the
Communist government was lying about
the United States of America. We
thought all its warnings about America
were simply propaganda.
And from 1989 to 1993, I was a
democratic activist. That was before I
understood the true work of the I.M.F.
or the World Bank or the transnational
corporations and their policy of
expansion. We fell for the seductive
talk about democracy and openness. Now
10 years later, I wish we hadn't.
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>From: bozil zaharieff bgeor...@home.com
>Date: Thu, 11 November 1999 01:55 PM EST
>Message-id: <382B3ADF...@home.com>
>
>
> November 11, 1999
>
> In Bulgaria, 10 Years of Misery
>
> By BLAGOVESTA DONCHEVA
>
> SOFIA, Bulgaria -- We here in
> Bulgaria have had democracy since
> 1989. What has happened during these
> last 10 years?
V izrichenieto
> Now, since the fall of Communism,
se sqdqrzha kliucha kqm vqrhovnata izmama i pqrvonachalnata iliuzia che
komunizmqt v Bulgaria e "padnal".
Komunizma v Bulgaria ne e padnal po nasilstven nachin, ili taka, ne beshe
prinuden ot anti-komunistichesko narodno sqprotivitelno dvizhenie da otdade
vlastta.
Prehoda ot Komunizqm kqm Kapitalizqm se izvqrshva ot samite komunisti i tehnite
taini sluzhbi zagrabili vlastta.
Bulgaria preminava ot Totalitarna sistema ne kqm demokracia, no e pod kontrola
i represiata na sled-Komunisticheskata latino amerikanski tip Hunta-Diktatura,
ili oshte po tochno, pod nasilstveno vqvezhdane na kapitalizma chrez
organiziranata prestqpnost na bivshite komunisticheski voenno-sekretni sluzhbi.
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bozil zaharieff
svoboda na Bulgarskia Narod v AD, nechuvan i ne vizhdan i da nakara
Bulgarskia narod da sazhaliava che se e osvobodil ot Komunisticheskata
Diktatura, kato te dori stanaha bogatite kapitalisti s Narodni pari.
Komunisticheskata Diktatira, kadeto ubivat bez sad i prisada, kadeto ima
previligovani komunnisti i bedni robi-grazhdani ne mozhe da bade po
dobro ot svobodata inache shteshe v cela zapadna evropa da imarevolucii
kakto prez 30-te godini.
Problemata e bivshite Komunisti ispolzuvat tehnata nechovechnost,
bezochie, alchnost, bezkrupolnost za napravat zhivota na naroda
neponosim i sasredochavane na kapitala chrez krazhbi i moshenichestva,
korupzia v 1-2% ot naselenieto, ne zashtoto sa doprinesli neshto kato
Bill Gaets, a chrez brutalni kriminalni deiania.
Mrasnite gadove kato Prewzidrenta Stoianov i 95% ot upravliavashtite
unishtozhavat Bulgarskia Narod. Tova ne e svoboda, tova ne e
Kapitalizam, kaktov Zapadna Evropa. amerikanskia tip Kapitalisam e samo
za mai-bogatite strani kadeto neshto kape ot nai bogatite i ostava
neshto za bednia, koito sas sredna chasova stavka ot $13.86 e pochti
ravna na sedmichnata zaplata v Bulgaria. 30-40 po goliam dahod za
rabotnizite, a za spezialistite e 100-200 pati i zatova vseki
prezhiviava.
V Bulgaria ne se vizhda kraia na mizeriata i hora beziochlivi, bez vseka
savest kato Prezidenta Stoianov "Kradat s zadnika si", kakto kazva
naroda. Razbira se ima po-nagli i besramni hishnici-kradci ot nego, no
toi ni zabludi che neshto shte napravi ikakvo? Korupziata i mizeriata se
ubelichava vseki den sled kato toi vse vlasta, a toi si zhivee kato
"Simeoncho predi WW II i vsekiot pravitelstvotopatuva po sveta, siakash
parite sa neogranicheni.
Te sapokarchili za koandirovki poveche otkolkoto stranata za medizcinska
pomosht. Zatova i Medicinskoto Obsluzhvane e na tova derezhe.
Az te bezumno obicham Narode,
I Svobodata e Hubava. Ti niama da iskash da se varneshkato kreposnik v
tvoia grad ili selo i da iskash razreshenie ot Partiinia Sekretar ne da
zhiveesh v Sofia, Plovdiv, Varna, Burgas i Ruse, a da gi posetish za
mesec ili dva i triabva da se zapisvash v domovata kniga za da znaiat
vseka minuta kade si za da ne"svalish vlasta na "DC".
Sega nishto ne se e promenilo. Prezidenta, Pravitelstvoto sa
postavenisporewd planovete na sashtite tezi"DC", koito kazaha prez
1989g., che "Vzeli sme vlasta s krav i samo s krav shte se razdelim s
neia", 'Samo prez trupovete ni shte triabva da minete za da vzemete
vlasta".
TE USPIAHA, TE POBEDIHA, TE DARZHAT VLASTA i Presidenta stoianov e
postaven ot teh, no naroda se isaznava i 55% ne glasuvaha, no vse oshte
se strahuvat da zapochat istnskata Revoluzia i da smazhat "DC". Bez
tova e nevazmozhno da ima Svobodna Bulgaria i Naroda shte mizeruva dori
poveche. Ima samo tri strani (nie sme na 63 mesto) po zleot nas, daite
vreme na PrezidentaStoianov i she stignem do poslednoto.
Tova sa fakti i ne gi pisha da diskutiram sas "DC" ili tehnite sinove v
Chuzhbina.
Ako mozhe da pomognete s neshto za svaliane na Rezhimite slozheni ot
"DC" dobre, ako ne: tstranete se!-ne prechete!
ing.Bozhil Zaxariev
PoliticheskiIzgnanik ot 1970g.
(Sofisialen Dolument ot Oct. 9, 1970g.)
PS: G-n Stoianov ti si predatel, orazhie na "DC",
postaven ot Mafiata na "DC" i tiranin za Bulgarskia Narod.
Celia svet znae za krazhbite na bilioni ot tvoite saratnici,
a ti iskash da ni ubedish, che nishto ne znaesh,
a nai-novoto e:"Ne e moia Rabota".
Znaesh li che moia rabota e da tepokazha na Bulgarskia Narod v
Istinskata svetlina. Vie sazdavate atmosferata kriminalnosta
na "DC" da prozaftiava beznakazano i naroda damizeruva.
Ilya Talev
zashtoto v neja ima dostatycno goljam broj takiva
patki kato avtorkata na tova pismo. NYT s goljam
keg sa si go publikuvali, za da pokazhat nagledno
misylta si ot specialnata stranica za Iztochna Evropa
ot vcherashnija broj.
IT
Dimitar Gueorguiev
> Tja Bylgarijata zatova e cyfnala prez tezi 10 godini,
> zashtoto v neja ima dostatycno goljam broj takiva
> patki kato avtorkata na tova pismo. NYT s goljam
> keg sa si go publikuvali, za da pokazhat nagledno
> misylta si ot specialnata stranica za Iztochna Evropa
> ot vcherashnija broj.
Pismoto e patetichno i az lichno ne spodeliam takyv nachin na mislene.
Polojenieto na bylgarskite pensioneri naistina e mnogo trudno; spored
men edinstvenia pyt e priobshtavane kym Zapadna Evropa i tyrsene
maksimalna materialna izgoda ot poziziata ni po vreme na Yugo-krizata;
tova e edinstvenia nachin da se podobri polojenieto na nai-bednite.
D.
bozil zaharieff
Vlizaneto na Bulgaria v EU e edna druga goliama zabluda s koiato
pravitelstvoto zabluzhdava Bulgarskia Narod. Dori i da stane, koeto po
princip e dobre, niama da stane prez mandata na tova pravitelstvo i
niama da stane nikakvo chudo. zaplatite ni niama da stanat dori kolkoto
Grackite i shte bade dalak boleznem prozes, koito kraia ne mu se vizhda.
Kolko 10g., 20g., 30g., 40g., 50g., ili 100g. az sam siguren cheshte
bademnogo poveche ot 20g. i niama da bada zhiv da vidia.
"Nadezhdata krepi choveka", kazva Naroda i nashite Upravnici-moshenici
ni zabluzhdavat da viarvame che s vlizaneto ni v "EU" edin den vsichki
ikonomicheski isozialni problemi shte se reshat. Kazhe te mi neshto
drugo, tova zvuchi v moite ushi kato:" Ne sevazdigaite sreshu Mafiozite
"DC" i postavenite ot teh, te vsichi shte stanat "kalugeri i popove i
niama da vi ograbvatsled tova i vie mozhe da si izberete normalno
pravitelstvo i da dadete shtaslivi i svobodni sled tova.
Viarvaite Im.
Blazhenni sa viarvashtite v teh.
Dori mogat da sazdadat nova religia da viarvash v "DC" i shte
vazkrasnesh, dori ot tormoza i mizeriata po skoro shte umresh i po skoro
shte vazkrasnesh.
Aziskam te da "VAZKRASNAT", kolkoto se mozhe po skoro.
Dnes ne e kasno!
Love You All!
Bozhil Zaxariev
Daniel Nikovski
Tova pismo ostavya vpechatlenieto, che izboryt na bylgarskiya narod
izcyalo e zavisil ot nego, i che nyakak si tozi izbor e bil pogreshen.
Ne vizhdam da se osporva istinata, che prez 1989 bylgarskata dyrzhava
e bila pred bankrut (oficialno obyaven ot pravistelstvoto na Lukanov
godina po-kysno), i che vsichkite tezi hubavi pridobivki kato
bezplatno obrazovanie i medicinsko obsluzhvane sa se izdyrzhali na
kredit. Pri tova polozhenie prehodyt kym pazarna ikonomika e bil
neizbezhen i s nishto nezavishesht ot izbora na horata. Kak shte se
spravyat, razbira se, zavisi mnogo ot tyah - tova, che proizvezhdanite
stoki sa po-nekonkurentni ot turskite, si e problem na bylgarite.
Syshto, glupavo e da se tvyrdi, che mezhdunarodnite korporacii
idvat v Bylgariya, za da izkupyat fabrikite i da gi zatvoryat.
Yasno e, che ot tova mogat samo da zagubyat pari. Edinstvenata
firma, koyato e napravila podobno neshto, e Videoton, koyato
pyrvo ne e zapadna, i vtoro go e napravila naj-veroyatno ot
glupost.
Razbira se, nito valutniyat fond, nito svetovnata banka sa
idealni - kato vsyaka byurokraciya, i te sa mnogo neefektivni.
No tazi statiya ne kazva nishto za neefektivnostta na
segashnosto pravitelstvo, pri koeto veche 40% ot brutniya
produkt minava prez byudzheta - neshto, koeto i Todor
Zhivkov dazhe ne uspya da postigne. Vmesto da se pishat
takiva zhalni pisma, po-dobre da si opravim pyrvo vytreshnite
raboti.
--daniel
Daniel Nikovski
> Tja Bylgarijata zatova e cyfnala prez tezi 10 godini,
> zashtoto v neja ima dostatycno goljam broj takiva
> patki kato avtorkata na tova pismo. NYT s goljam
> keg sa si go publikuvali, za da pokazhat nagledno
> misylta si ot specialnata stranica za Iztochna Evropa
> ot vcherashnija broj.
Kakva e tazi misyl - bi li obyasnil nyakoj s dve izrecheniya
za kakvo stava duma?
--daniel
Ilya Talev
Daniel Nikovski wrote:
> Ilya Talev <ta...@ibm.net> writes:
>
> > Tja Bylgarijata zatova e cyfnala prez tezi 10 godini,
> > zashtoto v neja ima dostatycno goljam broj takiva
> > patki kato avtorkata na tova pismo. NYT s goljam
> > keg sa si go publikuvali, za da pokazhat nagledno
> > misylta si ot specialnata stranica za Iztochna Evropa
> > ot vcherashnija broj.
>
> Kakva e tazi misyl - bi li obyasnil nyakoj s dve izrecheniya
> za kakvo stava duma?
>
> --daniel
"... So people feel lost, faced suddenly with
responsibilities they were not educated to assume,
exposed to newcomers jetting in to buy up things or run
them before jetting out again for the weekend, unable to
orient themselves in a society based on risk and
achievement rather than security and conformity.
"And people with narrow horizons who cannot solve
their problems look for their Jew, or their Turk -- or
their Wessi," ... or the West in general and the
United States in particular.
http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/europe/eastern-europe-index.html
Borislav Simov
>Do ulgarite koito mileiat za Bulgarskia Narod.
>Vlizaneto na Bulgaria v EU e edna druga goliama zabluda s koiato
>pravitelstvoto zabluzhdava Bulgarskia Narod. Dori i da stane, koeto po
>princip e dobre, niama da stane prez mandata na tova pravitelstvo i
>niama da stane nikakvo chudo.
Bai Bozhile, za kakvo chlenstvo govorish? V Helzinki nai-mnogo
da ni pusnat v priemnata za EU. (Kakto nomercata deto gi razdavat
v Burger King.)
Samata ceremonia v Helzinki e neshto kato razdavane na medali
na otlichilite se po vremeto na kosovskata kriza. Potupvane po
ramoto pred stroia. Shto se otnasia do dumite Zapadyt e shtedyr.
Kogato rabotata opre do mangizi, rabotata stava debela. (Koga
shte vyzstanoviat transportnata ni vryzka s Evropa?)
>Love You All!
>Bozhil Zaxariev
--
Borislav Simov, Graduate Student in Computer Science
Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa, USA
http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~simov/homepage.html
Shishman 2
>From: Daniel Nikovski dan...@gs147.sp.cs.cmu.edu
>Date: Thu, 11 November 1999 08:33 PM EST
>Message-id: <v65so2c...@gs147.sp.cs.cmu.edu>
>Ne vizhdam da se osporva istinata, che prez 1989 bylgarskata dyrzhava
>e bila pred bankrut (oficialno obyaven ot pravistelstvoto na Lukanov
>godina po-kysno), i che vsichkite tezi hubavi pridobivki kato
>bezplatno obrazovanie i medicinsko obsluzhvane sa se izdyrzhali na
>kredit.
Istinata za Bulgarskata dqrzhava e che e sistematichno, zhestoko, bezsqvestno
ograbvana i krqvta na Bulgarskia narod e bila izpivana do iznemoshtiavane.
Nazreliat bankrupt e posledstvie na ograbenoto nacionalno i grazhdansko
imushtestvo.
Pri tova polozhenie
>Pri tova polozhenie prehodyt kym pazarna ikonomika e bil
>neizbezhen i s nishto nezavishesht ot izbora na horata.
>Kak shte se
>spravyat, razbira se, zavisi mnogo ot tyah
horata tqnat v mizeria, dokato kradcite ot bivshite komunisticheski sluzhbi
bogateat.
>Vmesto da se pishat
>takiva zhalni pisma, po-dobre da si opravim pyrvo vytreshnite
>raboti.
>
>--daniel
>
Shishman2
Report4tru
>From: Daniel Nikovski dan...@gs147.sp.cs.cmu.edu
>Date: Thu, 11 November 1999 08:33 PM EST
>Message-id: <v65so2c...@gs147.sp.cs.cmu.edu>
> Vmesto da se pishat
>takiva zhalni pisma, po-dobre da si opravim pyrvo vytreshnite
>raboti.
>
>--daniel
Tova e vqprosa. Kak shte se opraviat vqtreshnite raboti kogato recidevistite sa
zagrabili Bulgaria.
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bozil zaharieff
Pone si go predstavam, che pazarite shte badat otvoreni za Bulgaria,
granizite sashto. Bulgarite mogat da zhiveiat i rabotiat na vsekade v
Europe. Bulgaria shte stane neshto kato Ispania i horata shte badat
zasmeni i usmihnati i sigurni v utreshnia den. Che nashite patishta i
ifastrokcha shte badat normalizirani(s pomoshta na EU), che torizma, a
ne Kremikuvci, shte sazdava pominak na desetki hiliadi hora. Che shte se
pomaga na drebnite zanaiatchii i proizvoditeli i selianite shte zhiveiat
v sela s kanalizacia i priroden gas i shte mogat da plashtat zanego, che
shte imame parvoklasna Medizinska sistema po Skandidatski obrazec.
O, tolkova mnogo hubavi neshta zhelaia za Bulgaria, che po dobre da spra
dokato....
With love,
Dedo Bozhko
(Ne zabravai, che dodoh na tvoite godini tuk i sam si mechtal zel
zhivot. Sega za parvi pat mislia, che niama da dozhiveia da vidia
moiata lubima Rodina procaftiavashta i uspeshna, no shte stane edin
den-Bulgarskia Narod zapochna da se USESHTA).
bozil zaharieff
No i da mu kazhesh "on si barbori,
kakvoto sa go uchili vozhdovete"
i ne e vinoven, ne mu se sardi.
Report4tru wrote:
>
> >Subject: Re: In Bulgaria, 10 Years of Misery
> >From: Daniel Nikovski dan...@gs147.sp.cs.cmu.edu
> >Date: Thu, 11 November 1999 08:33 PM EST
> >Message-id: <v65so2c...@gs147.sp.cs.cmu.edu>
>
> > Vmesto da se pishat
> >takiva zhalni pisma, po-dobre da si opravim pyrvo vytreshnite
> >raboti.
> >
> >--daniel
>
Julian Dontchev
: Vlizaneto na Bulgaria v EU e edna druga goliama zabluda s koiato
: pravitelstvoto zabluzhdava Bulgarskia Narod.
Absoljutno verno. Chudja se obache kak vse oshte njakoi hora (izvan Bulgaria)
ne go razbirat.
Julian Dontchev
: men edinstvenia pyt e priobshtavane kym Zapadna Evropa
Hallo! Ne razbra li che Zapadna Evropa ne ni iska? Njama i da ni iska.
Shishman 2
>Date: Thu, 11 November 1999 11:35 PM EST
>Message-id: <382BC2EF...@home.com>
>> >From: Daniel Nikovski dan...@gs147.sp.cs.cmu.edu
>> > Vmesto da se pishat
>> >takiva zhalni pisma, po-dobre da si opravim pyrvo vytreshnite
>> >raboti.
>> >
>> >--daniel
Unizhenieto do koeto sa dovedeni semeistva i vqzrastni hora, da hodiat po
ulicite kato prosiaci, da roviat po boklucite, da stradat v mizeria, da budat
izpolzvani kato parcali ot bivshite komunisticheski mafioti e neprostimo.
Bednite Bulgarski grazhdani triabva da bqdat podpomognati i zashtiteni sqs
Zakon zalegnal v Konstituciata.
Shishman2
Nikolay Vitanov
navyn i iskat da se vyrnat obratno v zatvora, kydeto e toplo i davat
hrana 3 pyti na den.
Peter....@turner.com
bozil zaharieff <bgeor...@home.com> writes:
>>Do ulgarite koito mileiat za Bulgarskia Narod.
>>Vlizaneto na Bulgaria v EU e edna druga goliama zabluda s koiato
>>pravitelstvoto zabluzhdava Bulgarskia Narod. Dori i da stane, koeto
po
>>princip e dobre, niama da stane prez mandata na tova pravitelstvo i
>>niama da stane nikakvo chudo.
>
>Bai Bozhile, za kakvo chlenstvo govorish? V Helzinki nai-mnogo
>da ni pusnat v priemnata za EU. (Kakto nomercata deto gi razdavat
>v Burger King.)
>
>Samata ceremonia v Helzinki e neshto kato razdavane na medali
>na otlichilite se po vremeto na kosovskata kriza. Potupvane po
>ramoto pred stroia. Shto se otnasia do dumite Zapadyt e shtedyr.
>Kogato rabotata opre do mangizi, rabotata stava debela. (Koga
>shte vyzstanoviat transportnata ni vryzka s Evropa?)
Che Zapadqt e edna skrqndza, po tova dve mnenia njama. Az obache sqm na
drugo mnenie za tova koeto shte stava do kraja na godinata. Mislja che
Zapadqt (US + EU) shte izpolzvat poslednite dni ot tozi vek za da
napravjat edin zhest (na otgovorna politika) kqm novoto hiljadoletie.
Balkanite sa trqn v ochite na Evropa ot minaliat vek. Ot edna strana te
sa epicentqr ili prichina za edni ot nai krqvoprolitnite konflikti
stanali v Evropa prez poslednite dva veka, a ot druga sa edna nerazdelna
chast ot kontinenta, kakto kato geografia, taka i kato istoria i
kultura. Poslednite deset godini pokazaha, che bez investicii, bez
interes ot strana na Zapada i bez edna racionalna i celenasochena
politika kqm regiona neshtata njama skoro da se podobrjat sami.
Konflikta v Kosovo, riskqt i zagubite, koito njakoi strani poeha za da
dokazhat lojalnosta si i novoto hiljadoletie sa edna otlichna
predpostavka da bqde napraven posledniat goljam politicheski zhest na
otivashtiat si vek. Az lichno ne bih izpusnal sluchaja. Znaem che
Klinton shte idva na Balkanite i znaem za sreshtata v Helsinki. Taka
kakto izglezhda i dvete sqbitia sa nasrocheni za kraja na 1999 s
opredelena cel. Kakva e tja, ostava da razberem, no mi se struva che
nai malkoto imenno rabotata shte "opre do mangizi".
Momenta e podhodjasht za deistvie, a ne za prikazki, zashtoto pokrai
simvolikata i fanfarite i zapadniat danqkoplatec mozhe da bqde po
blagosklonen kqm tova koeto shte se ochakva ot nego v rezultat.
Pozdrav
PP
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Stephan Manov
>
>
> Razbira se, nito valutniyat fond, nito svetovnata banka sa
> idealni - kato vsyaka byurokraciya, i te sa mnogo neefektivni.
Kato kaza tova se setih, che predi dva-tri dena shefa na MVF Michel
Kamdesyu (bg sp) podade ostavka po "lichni prichini" 1 godina predi
kraya na mandata.
SM
Stephan Manov
>
> bozil zaharieff <bgeor...@home.com> writes:
>
> >Do ulgarite koito mileiat za Bulgarskia Narod.
>
> >Vlizaneto na Bulgaria v EU e edna druga goliama zabluda s koiato
> >pravitelstvoto zabluzhdava Bulgarskia Narod. Dori i da stane, koeto po
> >princip e dobre, niama da stane prez mandata na tova pravitelstvo i
> >niama da stane nikakvo chudo.
>
> Bai Bozhile, za kakvo chlenstvo govorish? V Helzinki nai-mnogo
> da ni pusnat v priemnata za EU. (Kakto nomercata deto gi razdavat
> v Burger King.)
>
> Samata ceremonia v Helzinki e neshto kato razdavane na medali
> na otlichilite se po vremeto na kosovskata kriza. Potupvane po
> ramoto pred stroia. Shto se otnasia do dumite Zapadyt e shtedyr.
> Kogato rabotata opre do mangizi, rabotata stava debela. (Koga
> shte vyzstanoviat transportnata ni vryzka s Evropa?)
>
Kato stana duma za potupvane po ramoto. Ochevidno frenskata tv TF1
(nai-gledanata) e reshil da precaka rumancite. Sled kato vi razkazah
onzi den za reportaja za siropitalishteto, vchera pusnaha reportaj kato
vodeshta novina, za bezprizornite deca ot sverenata gara v Bukuresht.
Kartinata e yasna: 8-9 godishni hlapeta prosyat, dishat lepilo, spyat v
kashoni, prostituirat se i za kapak edna 25 godishna bremenna za ...
treti put bez pokriv i parche hlyab. Dano jurnalistkata da si e vzela
samoletenh bilet otivane i vrushtane Paris- Bukuresht i da ne preskochi
Dunav po Dunav-most, che togava spukana ni e rabotata. Ednoimenniyat
serial na Ivan Andonov (okazva se, che toi e rejisiorat) shte blednee
pred reportajite na vuprosnata dama.
SM
cold...@my-deja.com
Ilya Talev <ta...@ibm.net> wrote:
> Tja Bylgarijata zatova e cyfnala prez tezi 10 godini,
> zashtoto v neja ima dostatycno goljam broj takiva
> patki kato avtorkata na tova pismo. NYT s goljam
nachi po povod na patkite i 10-tata godishnina, se prisetih za
slednoto..
edin doklad na World Bank, posveten na 10-te godini promeni v Iztochna
Evropa, izvadki ot koito publikubani v BG presa (sorry, ako imate
sqmnenia, tqrsete si sami originala!)
ta samo dve cifrichki...
prez 1989 g. v stranite ot t.n. iztochen block e imalo 13 miliona
oficialno prebroeni bedni (po kriteriite na WB)
prez 1999 g. tazi cifra e veche 170 mln.
seki da si pravi izvodi i da si komentira sqs zdrave
Nikolay Vitanov
Samo edna zabelejka: ne zapochvaj otnovo temata za tova koga svyrshva XX
vek, che otnovo shte se hvanem za gushite.
Peter....@turner.com wrote:
Ilya Talev
cold...@my-deja.com wrote:
> prez 1989 g. v stranite ot t.n. iztochen block e imalo
> 13 miliona oficialno prebroeni bedni (po kriteriite na WB)
> prez 1999 g. tazi cifra e veche 170 mln.
Ami che mnogo prosto objasnenie: Amerika i Zapadyt
syzdadoha Mafiozko-komunisticheskite grupi na Iztok
(Borcheski i Vratovi korporacii), koito prodylzhavat
da izsmukvat kakvoto ima tam, opropastiha chestnite
nzrodni banki, prdizvikaha hiperinflacija, syzdadoha
Osem individa v Rusija, koito dnes pritezhavat 80%
ot nacionalnite bogatstva na tazi strana - i ne znajat
kakvo da pravjat s tjah, osven da gi iztichat v chuzbina.
Zapydydt prodylzhava da si glasuva za otkriti komunisti
i komunisticheski programi na "treti" pyt, i kakvi li ne
oshte prestypni shemi za oshte po-goljamo onednjavane
na horata na Iztok. Tochno kakto Marks beshe predvidil:
bogatite shte stavat po-bogati, a bednite - oshte po-bedni.
Ostava da vidim dali bednite shte schupjat verigite na
bednostta si, i shte se zahvanat sami da pochistjat tezi
svinarnici, ili shte prodylzhavat da chaka Ivan Glupakyt
da se sybudi na pechkata i da se ozheni za carskata
dyshterja, ta vsichki da jadem i piem, i po pradata ni da
teche, a v ustatq da ne vliza.
IT
> In article <382B2771...@ibm.net>,
> Ilya Talev <ta...@ibm.net> wrote:
> > Tja Bylgarijata zatova e cyfnala prez tezi 10 godini,
> > zashtoto v neja ima dostatycno goljam broj takiva
> > patki kato avtorkata na tova pismo. NYT s goljam
>
> nachi po povod na patkite i 10-tata godishnina, se prisetih za
> slednoto..
> edin doklad na World Bank, posveten na 10-te godini promeni v Iztochna
> Evropa, izvadki ot koito publikubani v BG presa (sorry, ako imate
> sqmnenia, tqrsete si sami originala!)
>
> ta samo dve cifrichki...
> prez 1989 g. v stranite ot t.n. iztochen block e imalo 13 miliona
> oficialno prebroeni bedni (po kriteriite na WB)
> prez 1999 g. tazi cifra e veche 170 mln.
>
> seki da si pravi izvodi i da si komentira sqs zdrave
>
Stephan Manov
>
> Borislav Simov wrote:
>
> bozil zaharieff <bgeor...@home.com> writes:
>
> >>Do ulgarite koito mileiat za Bulgarskia Narod.
>
> >>Vlizaneto na Bulgaria v EU e edna druga goliama zabluda s koiato
> >>pravitelstvoto zabluzhdava Bulgarskia Narod. Dori i da stane, koeto
> po
> >>princip e dobre, niama da stane prez mandata na tova pravitelstvo i
> >>niama da stane nikakvo chudo.
> >
> >Bai Bozhile, za kakvo chlenstvo govorish? V Helzinki nai-mnogo
> >da ni pusnat v priemnata za EU. (Kakto nomercata deto gi razdavat
> >v Burger King.)
> >
> >Samata ceremonia v Helzinki e neshto kato razdavane na medali
> >na otlichilite se po vremeto na kosovskata kriza. Potupvane po
> >ramoto pred stroia. Shto se otnasia do dumite Zapadyt e shtedyr.
> >Kogato rabotata opre do mangizi, rabotata stava debela. (Koga
> >shte vyzstanoviat transportnata ni vryzka s Evropa?)
>
> drugo mnenie za tova koeto shte stava do kraja na godinata. Mislja che
> Zapadqt (US + EU) shte izpolzvat poslednite dni ot tozi vek za da
> napravjat edin zhest (na otgovorna politika) kqm novoto hiljadoletie.
>
> Balkanite sa trqn v ochite na Evropa ot minaliat vek. Ot edna strana te
> sa epicentqr ili prichina za edni ot nai krqvoprolitnite konflikti
> stanali v Evropa prez poslednite dva veka,
Tuka se razlichavam ot tvoeto mnenie. Purvo: balkanite sa trun v ochite
na zapada, ne zashtoto sa reshili da budat takuv, ami zashtoto zapadut
gi napravi takuv trun, ne mojeiki da reshi okonchatelno i spravedlivo
"iztochniya vupros" v kraya na 19 vek. Togava sluguvaneto na chastnite
interesi na tazi ili onazi kolonialna sila v klasicheski kolonialen stil
dominirashe tova na interesite na Evropa vzeta kato cyalo, ako vuobshte
takiva interesi e imalo yasno definirani v nechiya kolonialna britanska,
frenska ili ruska glava. I vtoro: Balkanite nikoga ne sa bili
purvoprichinata na nyakakvi kruvoprolitni konfliktki (s izkl. na bivsha
Yugoslaviya prez poslednite 10 godini i to s redica ugovorki). Purvata
svetovna voina ne izbuhna, zashtoto v Saraevo ubiha avtro-ungarskiya
prestolonaslednik, a zashto Zapadut ne beshe v sustoyanie da si podeli
banicata na koloniite i tezi, kotio byaha ostanali bez (Germaniya,
Avstro-Ungariya) byaha lakomi. Vtorata svetovna puk suvsem ne vijdam
kakva i e vruzkata s neshtatsnite Balkani. A puk balkanskata i
mejdusayuznicheskata voina sa imenno (za mene de) rezultat ot losho
svurshenata rabota na pretendirashtite za veliki sili durjavi v kraya na
19 vek. taka che ako na balkanite vse oshte ima bakii, to te ne sa
vupreki usiliyata na Zapadna Evropa, a imenno v rezultat na tezi
usiliya. V takuv smisul eventualnata pokana za prisuedinyavane kum ES i
vuobshte vnezapniyat interes obhvanal zapadnite stolici kum balkanite,
ne razglejdam kato blagodarstven jest, a kato tvurde zakusnyalo
priznanie na dopusnatite greshki v minaloto.
S ostanalata chast na razsujdeniyata sum suglasen
SM
stef...@my-deja.com
Dimitar Gueorguiev <d...@bu.edu> wrote:
> Ilya Talev wrote:
>
> > Tja Bylgarijata zatova e cyfnala prez tezi 10 godini,
> > zashtoto v neja ima dostatycno goljam broj takiva
> > patki kato avtorkata na tova pismo. NYT s goljam
> > keg sa si go publikuvali, za da pokazhat nagledno
> > misylta si ot specialnata stranica za Iztochna Evropa
> > ot vcherashnija broj.
>
> Polojenieto na bylgarskite pensioneri naistina e mnogo trudno; spored
> men edinstvenia pyt e priobshtavane kym Zapadna Evropa i tyrsene
> maksimalna materialna izgoda ot poziziata ni po vreme na Yugo-krizata;
> tova e edinstvenia nachin da se podobri polojenieto na nai-bednite.
Avtorkata zabravia da napomni, che komunistite sliazoha ot vlast
edva predi 2 godini. Ochevidno refrena v BG sega e "Zapada ni e
vinoven".
Dimitar Gueorguiev
I kato ne ni iska tova e dobyr povod da se hvaneme otnovo s Rusia i
Belarus, nali Juliane ?
bozil zaharieff
hiliadi(neznam kolko biaha v "DC").
> > > Tja Bylgarijata zatova e cyfnala prez tezi 10 godini,
> > > zashtoto v neja ima dostatycno goljam broj takiva
> > > patki kato avtorkata na tova pismo. NYT s goljam
> >
> > nachi po povod na patkite i 10-tata godishnina, se prisetih za
> > slednoto..
> > edin doklad na World Bank, posveten na 10-te godini promeni v Iztochna
> > Evropa, izvadki ot koito publikubani v BG presa (sorry, ako imate
> > sqmnenia, tqrsete si sami originala!)
> >
> > ta samo dve cifrichki...
> > prez 1989 g. v stranite ot t.n. iztochen block e imalo 13 miliona
> > oficialno prebroeni bedni (po kriteriite na WB)
> > prez 1999 g. tazi cifra e veche 170 mln.
> >
> > seki da si pravi izvodi i da si komentira sqs zdrave
> >
Borislav Simov
>Oshte edna ot tezi pusnati na svoboda, koito ne znajat kakvo da pravjat
>navyn i iskat da se vyrnat obratno v zatvora, kydeto e toplo i davat
>hrana 3 pyti na den.
Ne e tochno taka. Kritikata na CDC (po-skoro ogorchenieto) ne
oznachava nepremenno, podkrepa i vyzhvala na komunizma. Za
syzhalenie BSP i CDC ne ostaviat miasto za istinski izbor.
Oshte po-zhalko e kogato obrazovani hora, svideteli na
nai-poshloto ot socialisticheskia rai, sega BEZREZERVNO
zastavat zad I. Kostov, N. Mihailova ili drugi sini
karieristi.
>bozil zaharieff wrote:
--
Borislav Simov
>Julian Dontchev wrote:
Abe nie shtoto vse gledame da se hvaneme za neshto, nakraia vse
se hvashtame za palcite.
Nikoi drug niama da sme smili nad nas, ako sami ne si gledame
interesa. Tova mezhdu drugoto oznachava da si znaem cenata
i ako se prodavame, da ne go pravim za zhylti stotinki. (Kakto
stana s razhreshenieto za vyzdushnoto prostranstvo po vreme na
nakazatelnata akcia v Kosovo.)
stef...@my-deja.com
si...@cs.iastate.edu (Borislav Simov) wrote:
> Nikolay Vitanov <nikolay...@helsinki.fi> writes:
>
> >Oshte edna ot tezi pusnati na svoboda, koito ne znajat kakvo da
pravjat
> >navyn i iskat da se vyrnat obratno v zatvora, kydeto e toplo i davat
> >hrana 3 pyti na den.
>
> Ne e tochno taka. Kritikata na CDC (po-skoro ogorchenieto) ne
> oznachava nepremenno, podkrepa i vyzhvala na komunizma. Za
> syzhalenie BSP i CDC ne ostaviat miasto za istinski izbor.
Pozvolete ni da imame dostatachno opit da razlichim kritika
ot klasova omraza.
bozil zaharieff
Az znam mnogo malko za finladia, no kato malak beh chel che nai-chesnite
hora v Sveta zhiveiat vv Skandinavskite strani.
S kakvito zhiveesh i druzhish takav stavash.
Neznam zashto zhurnalistite samo priglasiat na lazhite na Presidenta, a
ne davat sobstveni analizi. Tova vliae nakorata koito ne chetat druga
informacia, a te sa navsekade po sveta s tozi Internet.
Thanks.
Bozhil Zaxariev
Julian Dontchev wrote:
>
> bozil zaharieff <bgeor...@home.com> wrote:
>
> : Vlizaneto na Bulgaria v EU e edna druga goliama zabluda s koiato
> : pravitelstvoto zabluzhdava Bulgarskia Narod.
>
Rafael Maldonado
dostatqchno za da me nakara da sedna i napisha otgovor do redaktsiyata na
vestnik New York Times. Tqy kato se sqmnyavam che shte otpechatqt pismoto
mi, az reshih da go spodelya s vas.
Enjoy!
Sqs zdrave,
Ivaylo.
To the Editor:
Blagovesta Donchevaąs łIn Bulgaria, 10 Years of Misery˛ (Op-Ed, Nov.
11) is one of the finest pieces of leftist propaganda that has come out of
Bulgaria in the last few years! To blame the I.M.F. and George Soros for
Bulgariaąs economic woes in the past 10 years is frankly ludicrous. The
problem has not been too much privatization and reform, but too little too
late. Until two years ago when serious privatization began, former
communist łmanagers˛ and secret service agents used the legal confusion of
the transitional period and their insiderąs position to set up holding
companies that in a very clever scheme systematically stripped state owned
companies of their already meager assets. Naturally, such łdirty˛ money
quickly found its way out of the country (mostly to Swiss, Cypriot, and
other offshore bank accounts), thus depriving Bulgaria of vital capital.
Another problem common to all eastern European economies has been the
collapse of the old Comecon trading system (largely because once given a
choice, consumers no longer felt compelled to buy the low quality products
of other eastern European countries). The lack of rule of law and the
high levels of criminality (at least until recently) have been a major
deterrent to foreign investments in the country. Bulgaria suffered (very
unfairly) from the stigma in the West in the 90-s associated with any
country on the Balkans. The mismanagement by the government of łformer˛
communists, until it collapsed in 1998, caused a complete financial
meltdown. The list of reasons for Bulgariaąs miserable economic
performance in the last ten years can go on and on. In my opinion, with
few exceptions, they are mostly of Bulgariaąs own making. However, to the
paranoid mind such an explanation seems too trivial to be true. Instead,
the problem must have been created by outsiders the I.M.F., łthe Jews˛
(Mr. Soros etc.), the CIA, foreign multinationals and other
łconspirators˛.
I could only wish that Bulgarian factories were sold to łpowerful
foreign corporations˛. Instead, most often than not they are sold to
shadowy offshore holding companies set up (I am afraid) with the laundered
money of those same former communist łmanagers˛ and their Soviet comrades.
Labor relations in Bulgaria are very poor. On a recent visit to
Bulgaria I heard several appalling stories of employerąs abuses. I
attribute those to the general lawlessness in the country and not to
intrinsic flows in the democratic process and system. Once again it is
the local employers who commit the worst abuses. By contrast all of my
friends and relatives working for łpowerful foreign corporations˛ seem
generally satisfied with the way they are treated by their employers.
Foreign companies also pay much better than local ones.
The transition to free society has undoubtedly been psychologically
hard, especially on the older generation of Bulgarians. When, for your
entire life you have been told not to think for yourself and to expect
somebody else (the state) to take care of you, it is only natural that you
would at first be frightened by the uncertainties of freedom. Should we
(in the United States) have kept slavery going because freeing the slaves
would traumatize them?
I have to add with sadness, that even some of the łfacts˛ in Ms.
Donchevaąs letter are erroneously presented. She says: łIn 1989, my
friendąs motherąs pension had been about 105 leva a month. Now it is 46
leva a month, a little more than $24.˛ Ms. Doncheva conveniently forgets
to mention that before the currency denomination in Bulgaria three months
ago 46 leva were equivalent to 46,000 leva from 1989 (the result of years
of high inflation), thus rendering her comparison meaningless. If my
memory serves me the going rate for 105 leva in 1989 was less then $10,
therefore, the comparison becomes much less unfavorable.
Manąs memory seems to be so short. Nostalgia for the łgood old days˛
clouds his judgment. I for once am happy that the Bulgaria of ten years
ago is gone, with all its endless deceits, all its arbitrary brutality, all its
enforced conformity, its rape of the human soul. Let it be gone forever!
Krasimir Yalamov
>
> Nikolay Vitanov <nikolay...@helsinki.fi> writes:
>
> >Oshte edna ot tezi pusnati na svoboda, koito ne znajat kakvo da pravjat
> >navyn i iskat da se vyrnat obratno v zatvora, kydeto e toplo i davat
> >hrana 3 pyti na den.
>
> Ne e tochno taka. Kritikata na CDC (po-skoro ogorchenieto) ne
> oznachava nepremenno, podkrepa i vyzhvala na komunizma.
Razbira se. Koi go e grija da vuzhvalyava komunizma veche,
a i vinagi v nego glavnoto e bilo "klasovata borba".
Kazvat che partiyata-stoletnica razpredelila
otlichnicite si v CDC, a dvoikadjiite si v BSP.
Tova razpredelenie e mai za nyakoi moshten faktor za ogorchenie
bozil zaharieff
Biah otsednal v Sherato isi spomniam che kam 4 chasa sutrintashofiorite
prodavaha kofichki kiselo mleko po 1lev vmesto zenata v magazina 50
stitinki. Ako e $1 = 10 stari leva tokofichkite e triabvalo da struvat 5
stotinki, a znaem che dori snezhankata beshe mnigo po skapa/
Neinitesuma za Pensiata e ppravilna 105 leva, koeto e $52.50, koe6o i
maika mi polichavashe(Dori malko poveche).
Razbira setova ne e nai- vazhnoto. Che pensionerite poluchavat po malko
sega i che finansovo sa po sle e istina. No che te nemogat da se polzvat
ot svobodata dapatuvatv chuzhbina i ne iskat da sa svobodni a nahraneni
sashto e viarno, zatova prehodnia period e mnogo dalag za koito i da e ,
as mozhehme da go napravi max 2-3g., no s molko revolucia, no uvi
sashtite hora koito upravliavaha predi 1989g. s malki ismenenia darpat
koncite i dnes(Razlikata mezhdu CDC i BCP e neznachitelna zashtoto sa
sazdadeni i rakovodeni ot horata na "DC", a te sa napalno korumpirani.
Rafael Maldonado wrote:
>
> Dragi chitateli na s.c.b., statiyata na G-zha Doncheva uspya da me yadosa
> dostatqchno za da me nakara da sedna i napisha otgovor do redaktsiyata na
> vestnik New York Times. Tqy kato se sqmnyavam che shte otpechatqt pismoto
> mi, az reshih da go spodelya s vas.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Sqs zdrave,
> Ivaylo.
>
> To the Editor:
> Blagovesta Doncheva╧s ЁIn Bulgaria, 10 Years of Misery╡ (Op-Ed, Nov.
> 11) is one of the finest pieces of leftist propaganda that has come out of
> Bulgaria in the last few years! To blame the I.M.F. and George Soros for
> Bulgaria╧s economic woes in the past 10 years is frankly ludicrous. The
> problem has not been too much privatization and reform, but too little too
> late. Until two years ago when serious privatization began, former
> communist Ёmanagers╡ and secret service agents used the legal confusion of
> the transitional period and their insider╧s position to set up holding
> companies that in a very clever scheme systematically stripped state owned
> companies of their already meager assets. Naturally, such Ёdirty╡ money
> quickly found its way out of the country (mostly to Swiss, Cypriot, and
> other offshore bank accounts), thus depriving Bulgaria of vital capital.
> Another problem common to all eastern European economies has been the
> collapse of the old Comecon trading system (largely because once given a
> choice, consumers no longer felt compelled to buy the low quality products
> of other eastern European countries). The lack of rule of law and the
> high levels of criminality (at least until recently) have been a major
> deterrent to foreign investments in the country. Bulgaria suffered (very
> unfairly) from the stigma in the West in the 90-s associated with any
> country on the Balkans. The mismanagement by the government of Ёformer╡
> communists, until it collapsed in 1998, caused a complete financial
> meltdown. The list of reasons for Bulgaria╧s miserable economic
> performance in the last ten years can go on and on. In my opinion, with
> few exceptions, they are mostly of Bulgaria╧s own making. However, to the
> paranoid mind such an explanation seems too trivial to be true. Instead,
> the problem must have been created by outsiders the I.M.F., Ёthe Jews╡
> (Mr. Soros etc.), the CIA, foreign multinationals and other
> Ёconspirators╡.
> I could only wish that Bulgarian factories were sold to Ёpowerful
> foreign corporations╡. Instead, most often than not they are sold to
> shadowy offshore holding companies set up (I am afraid) with the laundered
> money of those same former communist Ёmanagers╡ and their Soviet comrades.
> Labor relations in Bulgaria are very poor. On a recent visit to
> Bulgaria I heard several appalling stories of employer╧s abuses. I
> attribute those to the general lawlessness in the country and not to
> intrinsic flows in the democratic process and system. Once again it is
> the local employers who commit the worst abuses. By contrast all of my
> friends and relatives working for Ёpowerful foreign corporations╡ seem
> generally satisfied with the way they are treated by their employers.
> Foreign companies also pay much better than local ones.
> The transition to free society has undoubtedly been psychologically
> hard, especially on the older generation of Bulgarians. When, for your
> entire life you have been told not to think for yourself and to expect
> somebody else (the state) to take care of you, it is only natural that you
> would at first be frightened by the uncertainties of freedom. Should we
> (in the United States) have kept slavery going because freeing the slaves
> would traumatize them?
> I have to add with sadness, that even some of the Ёfacts╡ in Ms.
> Doncheva╧s letter are erroneously presented. She says: ЁIn 1989, my
> friend╧s mother╧s pension had been about 105 leva a month. Now it is 46
> leva a month, a little more than $24.╡ Ms. Doncheva conveniently forgets
> to mention that before the currency denomination in Bulgaria three months
> ago 46 leva were equivalent to 46,000 leva from 1989 (the result of years
> of high inflation), thus rendering her comparison meaningless. If my
> memory serves me the going rate for 105 leva in 1989 was less then $10,
> therefore, the comparison becomes much less unfavorable.
> Man╧s memory seems to be so short. Nostalgia for the Ёgood old days╡
Stephan
news:80h29l$377$1...@news.cict.fr...
A az sys tvoite razsyzhdenija ne sym syglasen izobshto, zashtoto sa i
faktologicheski i interpretacionno neverni.
Oshte ot veremeto na Rimskata imperija e jasno, che na Balkanite njama
dostatychno resursi i vyzmozhnosti za syhtestvuvane na mnogobrojni dyrzhavni
obedinenija. Ot druga strana balkanskijat nacionalizym ne e neshto
privneseno otvyn. Toj si e mestno razvitie, makar i povlijano ot ideite na
evropejskija 19ti vek.Vse pak, oshte ot vremeto na 14 vek, Balkanite
iskat zapada da se namesi v polza ne edna ili druga causa, a ne obratnoto.
Vsichki nacionalno-osvobodotitelni - dvizhenija (a osobeno Bylgarskoto)
vinagi sa dejstvali s nadezhdata, che tehnata dejnost shte predizvika
mezhdunaroden otzvuk i shte nakara njakoj da se namesi: i gyrci, i syrvi, i
nie.
Dori i albancite ot Kossovo bjaha taka. Tja onazi partizanka ot KLA deto
lyga pred televizijata , che sestra i bila iznasilena i zaklana (a posle se
okaza, che bilo lyzha) i provokira vylnata na vyzmushtenie sred
obshtestvenostta prez nachaloto na mart 1999 g. (da be, i az se hvanah, che
podpisvah razni protesti do syrbite), i tja si prizna, che e dejstvala v
imeto na privlichane na vnimanieto na zapada.
Zapadyt se tachi na bakanite: toj e iztochnik na civilizacija, prestizh,
bogatstvo. Toj e EVROPATA.
Kazhi mi adash, koe napravi ot dicidentite v Bg politici -- zakuskata s
Miterand. Drugite, deto ne zakusvaha, si ostanaha marginali.
Kolko v Bg se spekulirazshe po izbori, kogo zapadyt bi podkrepil, i kogo ne.
V Rumynija e syshtoto, che do goljama stepen i v Gyrcija i Turcija.
Ne e samo zapadyt deto se vre mezhdu shamarite --- nie , balkancite si go
vikame... taka kakto vinagi sme vikali nevoljata.
SN
Shishman 2
>From: Nikolay Vitanov nikolay...@helsinki.fi
>Date: Fri, 12 November 1999 02:31 AM EST
>Message-id: <382BC262...@helsinki.fi>
>
>Oshte edna ot tezi pusnati na svoboda, koito ne znajat kakvo da pravjat
>navyn i iskat da se vyrnat obratno v zatvora, kydeto e toplo i davat
>hrana 3 pyti na den.
Na chuzhd grqb i 100 toiagi za malko.
Svobodata, ne e Svoboda ako edna znachitelna chast ot Bulgarskite grazhdani sa
zakreposteni poradi mizerno bezparichie, po vina na upravliavashtata bivsha
komunisticheska vqrhushka SDS-BSP, i stradat v bezparichie, i na vsichko otgore
kato prosiaci sa prishporvani s kamshika na bivshite recidevisti.
Pred Bulgarskia Narod se nalaga nasila greshnata predstava za Svoboda. Svoboda
za vqrhushkata, no za mnozinstvoto bedni Bulgarski semeistva i starci, se
nalaga udara na kamshika po iztoshtenite gqrbove.
Tazi "Svoboda" ne e Svoboda, no e Diktatura sled komunizma.
Shishman2
Julian Dontchev
: I kato ne ni iska tova e dobyr povod da se hvaneme otnovo s Rusia i
: Belarus, nali Juliane ?
Ta ti sega mi slagash dumi v ustata. Razbira se che trjabva da se
hvashtame s Belarus u Russia, no tova ne e the point, e li?
Nikolay Vitanov
bozil zaharieff wrote:
> In Dec.,1989 $1 = 2 stari leva.
Baj Bojile, ti maj vjarno si malko symnitelen. $1 = 2 stari leva prez 1989 mojeha da
si kupuvat samo tezi ot "DC". Ti da ne si ot tjah? Za obiknovenite hora $1 beshe 4
leva.
Gratzian Kolev
Za syzhalenie cenoobrazuvaneto ne zavisi samo ot prodavacha...toest:
realnata cena na daden product e tazi, kojato kupuvachut e gotov da dade za
neja. :))
bozil zaharieff
Triabvalo e da mi go kazhwsh togava, zashtoto sa me minali.
Aaz smeniah Moite Shtatski dolari za levove i ako sa mi davali 2leva, a
ti kazvash, che triabvalo da mi davat 4 leva. Ti si prav "DC" sa me
minali. Dokolkoto znam te ne monavat svoi hora a obratnoto. Viarvash ili
ne Katorabotesh za "ITT", chast ot koiato beshe "Sheraton' plashtah
mnogo malko i to s "American Expres". Az pazia oshte razpiskite zashtoto
gi ispolzuvah pri pravene na danazite. Ako iskash moga da ti ispratia
kopie.
Ne sam proveriaval , no mislia che niama da e problem. Napravih
komentara po spomeni, no garantiram, che ne e $1:10 leva. Tova stana
1990-1991g. No otnovo tova e informazia,koiato mozhe da se nameri.
Finansovoto ministerstvo otvariat stranica i mozhe da ia ima tam
With Love,
Bozhil Zaxariev
PS: 1989g. veche biah 12g. Amerikanski Grazhdanin i Rabotata mi
iziskvashe specialna "SECRET" status ot Ministerstvoto na Otbranata na
US i mnogo obiasnenia.
bozil zaharieff
bozil zaharieff
bozil zaharieff
otgovora e po nagore.
Izpratih go tri pati, no ne mozhah da go slozha pod tvoia E-Mail.
Isviniavai! Pogledni po gore.
Oprovergavam tvoite "Svobodni Sachinenia", no ne ti se sardia a i niama
da te naricham "Sin na Chovek ot "DC", zamozashto si se uredil vav
Finladia, zashtoto izglezhash mnogo sposoben i umen chovek i viarvam da
si go postignal sam.
Friendly: Bozhil Zaxariev
Nikolay Vitanov wrote:
>
> bozil zaharieff wrote:
>
> > In Dec.,1989 $1 = 2 stari leva.
>
stef...@my-deja.com
> Nikolay Vitanov wrote:
> >
> > bozil zaharieff wrote:
> >
> >
prez 1989 mojeha da
> > si kupuvat samo tezi ot "DC". Ti da ne si ot tjah? Za obiknovenite
hora $1 beshe 4
> > leva.
Vsashtnost, prez 1989 $1 beshe 8-10 leva, v rezultat na "Goliamata
ekskurzia" i dr. takiva. Bai Bojil pomni neshta s mnogo goliama
davnost, niakade ot 60-te veroiatno ili nachaloto na 70-te.
bozil zaharieff
Uvazhenieto e vzaimno,
no "maitam na golo dupe ne stava",
osovenno ako ne sme si igrali
na topcheta zaedno.
Tezi hora("DC") razbiha zelia zhivot ne samo na men, na maika mi i
na desetki hiliadi zasegnati ot tehnite "Meropriatia" za da sa na vlast,
a i prodalzhavat do den dneshen, kato se opitvat da ni izolirat.
Ako pozvolia takav maitap(na golo dupe), to shte stana pederas, kato
drugi hora, koito ne moga da ponasiam.
Kazah ti, che ne ti se sardia no sled tolkova mnogo desetiletia borba,
dori na maitam, kakvato i asosiacia s tezi bezkrupolni("DC") hora me
vbesiava.
Blagodaria, che razbirash.
Priaten Den!
Bozhil Zaxariev
Nikolay Vitanov wrote:
>
> Baj Bojile,
>
> Ne trjabva da se vpechatljavash tolkova ot njakoi drebni zakachki. Nikakva zla umisyl. Az
> se otnasjam s ogromno uvajenie i simpatija kym politicheskite emigranti, zashtoto tjahnata
> sydba ne e za zavijdane.
>
> Pozdravi
>
> Nikolay
>
> bozil zaharieff wrote:
>
> > Nikolai,
> > otgovora e po nagore.
> > Izpratih go tri pati, no ne mozhah da go slozha pod tvoia E-Mail.
> > Isviniavai! Pogledni po gore.
> > Oprovergavam tvoite "Svobodni Sachinenia", no ne ti se sardia a i niama
> > da te naricham "Sin na Chovek ot "DC", zamozashto si se uredil vav
> > Finladia, zashtoto izglezhash mnogo sposoben i umen chovek i viarvam da
> > si go postignal sam.
> > Friendly: Bozhil Zaxariev
> >
> > Nikolay Vitanov wrote:
> > >
> > > bozil zaharieff wrote:
> > >
> > > > In Dec.,1989 $1 = 2 stari leva.
> > >
> > > Baj Bojile, ti maj vjarno si malko symnitelen. $1 = 2 stari leva prez 1989 mojeha da
> > > si kupuvat samo tezi ot "DC". Ti da ne si ot tjah? Za obiknovenite hora $1 beshe 4
> > > leva.
>
> --
> ===========================================================
> Nikolay V. Vitanov phone : (+358) 9 191 8502
> Helsinki Institute of Physics mobile: (+358) 40 725 4828
> 00014 University of Helsinki fax : (+358) 9 191 8366
> Finland
> ===========================================================
ve...@usa.net
bozil zaharieff <bgeor...@home.com> wrote:
Dedo Bozhko (tova slutcaino li e ili naistina si go mislish, tce si?)
Dali Kremikovci shte ocele ili turizma shte e osnovniya dohod na
bqlgarite shte se reshi na pazara. Dali selyanite shte jiveyat v sela
na gaz ili shte se toplyat s elektritcestvo ili shte hvqrgat kyumur v
petckata zavisi ot tova kakvo mogat da si pozvolyat i eventualno
tehniya izbor. Dali shte imame sistema po skandinavski ili amerikanski
obrazec zavsi ot sqzdavaneto na dostatqtcno nacionalen produkt i izbora
na horata. Az litcno ne shta skandinavski model na kakvoto i da e.
Kakvoto si izkaram iskam da si go hartca a ne da plashtam po $ 2000 za
skobi na zqbite na decata na bum-ovete. Koravosqrdetcno, no vseki si
gleda interesite. Metctite i dobrite namereniya sa hubavo neshto ama
se postigat sqs zdrava rabota i naraneni tcuvstva ot previvane na
grqb. Metctite sa mnogo udobni za predizborna kampaniya. E tezi koito
vyarvat na pisaniya kato pqrvonatcalnata statiya namalyavat (ili na men
mi se shte) v Bqlgariya. Komunizma ne se predava lesno sega e izlyazal
na nov krqstonosen pohod s novite lqji za minalo koeto nikoga ne e
bilo. Ami kakvo da kaja, mnogo hora v Bqlgariya sa obezsqrtceni i dori
ne glasuvat. Promeni stavat samo kogato ima polititceski osqznati hora
sqs volya da postignat tova koeto iskat. Porajentceski nastroeniya
kato i ednite maskari i drugite ne sa cvete obslujvat tazi tcast ot
bqlgarskiyat elit koito ne milee za BG a za sobstveiya si mercedes i
kqshta v boyana za koito ne shte da raboti ili po-skoro da sqzdava
rabota za drugi. Zatova vseki koyto jivee v BG tryabva da glsuva,
zashtoto e po-lesno i bezobasno ot izlizane na ulicata kogato si
pritisnat do stenata.
> Niamam disagriment.
> Pone si go predstavam, che pazarite shte badat otvoreni za Bulgaria,
> granizite sashto. Bulgarite mogat da zhiveiat i rabotiat na vsekade v
> Europe. Bulgaria shte stane neshto kato Ispania i horata shte badat
> zasmeni i usmihnati i sigurni v utreshnia den. Che nashite patishta i
> ifastrokcha shte badat normalizirani(s pomoshta na EU), che torizma, a
> ne Kremikuvci, shte sazdava pominak na desetki hiliadi hora. Che shte
se
> pomaga na drebnite zanaiatchii i proizvoditeli i selianite shte
zhiveiat
> v sela s kanalizacia i priroden gas i shte mogat da plashtat zanego,
che
> shte imame parvoklasna Medizinska sistema po Skandidatski obrazec.
> O, tolkova mnogo hubavi neshta zhelaia za Bulgaria, che po dobre da
spra
> dokato....
>
> With love,
> Dedo Bozhko
> (Ne zabravai, che dodoh na tvoite godini tuk i sam si mechtal zel
> zhivot. Sega za parvi pat mislia, che niama da dozhiveia da vidia
> moiata lubima Rodina procaftiavashta i uspeshna, no shte stane edin
> den-Bulgarskia Narod zapochna da se USESHTA).
bozil zaharieff
Prez 60-te godini priatelka na maika mi poluchi nasledstvo ot brat si
koito rabotel kato kapitan na korabche nekade po shtatite i dokato
doidat parite do neia ne beha mnogo. togava $1=0.82 leva ofisialno, no
bonovete za korekom beha po 1.50 leva.
Az i kupih edin star huvav "Citruen" za $1,000 i go prodadoh v Plovdiv
na edin shivach za 7,000 leva. Ta i obmenih$1,000 za 7,000 leva ($1=7
leva). Tia mi dade da go karam gokato go prodam(okolo 1 mesec) i mi kupi
mnogo huvbavo palto ot "Korecom" za $32. Az sam obmenial mnogo dolari na
cherno prez 60 godini. Spomniam si kogato po $9 na metar bih si kupih
strashen Angliiski plat. Da rabiram mnogoot smena na pari, az bih sahto,
kato povecheto ot vas.Biah po Bambuka, po Moskva, po Praga i razbirase v
Operata, osobeno mazeto, kadeto si pohapvahme s taifata. Vkristal
hodihme na kremvishi i pone 50-60 imenni , rozhdenni dni, dzhambureta v
godinata. Kato zavatshih i zapochnah s 105 leva na mesez zapochnah da
hodia vav "Vidinska steshta" na ul. Rakovska, kadeto piehme mnogo, mnogo
vino i svinski krachenca. Posle hodehme na Gr. Ignatiev isreshti Popa,
na yl Ul. Simion blizo do Sv. Troica na parzhena riba za meze.
Imah mnogo priatelii dori da miamah mnogo pari vinagi dori i bez pari si
prikarvahme dobre. A momicheta-bezbroi, a i biah mlad i hubav kato Vas:
borec v Septremvri na tepiha na ul.Baba Parashkeva, no lubimoto mi
neshto beshe Planinite(Rila, Pirin, Vitosha). Peehme pridruzhavani ot
kitara ili dori bes, no glavite ni biaha palni s Planove za Svoboda.
Az se rasprikazvah, noiskam da kazhache znaeh vsichko kakvo stava v
Sofia., a i sega ne izglezhdam tolkova star, kazvat 40 godishen, no Az
si znam, che napavih 60g.
Obisham Vi vsichki,
Bozhil Zaxariev
PS: V Sofia me snaeha kato "bobi", kakto sa me kazvali ot rozhdeniei do
sega.
stef...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > Nikolay Vitanov wrote:
> > >
> > > bozil zaharieff wrote:
> > >
> > > > In Dec.,1989 $1 = 2 stari leva.
> > >
> > > Baj Bojile, ti maj vjarno si malko symnitelen. $1 = 2 stari leva
> prez 1989 mojeha da
> > > si kupuvat samo tezi ot "DC". Ti da ne si ot tjah? Za obiknovenite
> hora $1 beshe 4
> > > leva.
>
> Vsashtnost, prez 1989 $1 beshe 8-10 leva, v rezultat na "Goliamata
> ekskurzia" i dr. takiva. Bai Bojil pomni neshta s mnogo goliama
> davnost, niakade ot 60-te veroiatno ili nachaloto na 70-te.
>
bozil zaharieff
Realnata zena se ustanobiava na marketplas, no vapreki che e neobhodimo
da se napravi zdelka e edin prodavach i edin kupuvach tova nito e
realnata cena na produkta nito e malket plase.
realnata cena se ustanoviava na shirok malket plas kadeto ima mnogo
prodavachi i kupuvachi ili edin prodavach imnogo kupivachi.
Mozhe da stane zdelka pri edin kupuvach i edin prodavach, no ako se ima
vpredvid predishni podobni zdelki v protiven sluchai redko se konsumira
zdelkata.
Primer:
Ti si prodavachai ot bashta ti ti e ostanal zlaten chasovnik antika.
Ti znaesh, che struva mnogo no ne znaesh kolko, sigurno go nadceniavash
zashtoto ima santimentalna cena za teb.
az iskam da go kupia ot ted zamo za cenata na zlatotoi dori po malko za
da naprava dobra pechaba.
Niama drugi kupuvachi. az ti predlagam $10. Tova li e cenatana tozi
chasovnik? Razbira se che ne.
Ti misleshe che struva $10,000, no i tova ne e cenata zashtoto yolko
struva za teb vkluchitelno santimentalnata cena.
Kakva e istinskata cena?
Nai dobre se opredelia kogato ima kupuvachi i ti postepeno ili navedazh
namalish cenata i nekoi se saglasi .Primerno $500.
Zenata e $500. Ne e %10 i ne e$10,000.
Azznam, che go znaesh, no mozhe bi e lipsos-lingve??
Julian Dontchev
: Vsashtnost, prez 1989 $1 beshe 8-10 leva, v rezultat na "Goliamata
: ekskurzia" i dr. takiva.
7 leva beshe. 8 beshe tavana. Pone ljatoto na 1989.
Taxitata karaha na 30-35 stotinki na kilometar. Varna - Albena za 10
leva me karaha. Malko poveche ot dolar. Sega slozhili edni tseni 50-100
USD, sedjat prazni i chakat Elton John da se pojavi i kachi v kolata.
Rafael Maldonado
<nikolay...@helsinki.fi> wrote:
> bozil zaharieff wrote:
>
> > In Dec.,1989 $1 = 2 stari leva.
>
>
> Baj Bojile, ti maj vjarno si malko symnitelen. $1 = 2 stari leva prez
1989 mojeha da
> si kupuvat samo tezi ot "DC". Ti da ne si ot tjah? Za obiknovenite hora
$1 beshe 4
> leva.
Az ne moga da razbera nie e edna dqrzhava li sme zhiveli? Dolara skochi
nad 4 leva oshte s idvaneto na golyamata polska vqlna (85ta-86ta?). Prez
nikoe vreme i 89ta ne e bul pod 5-6 leva! Kogato zapochna "ekskurziyata"
do Turtsiya dolara stigna do nad 15 leva. Kogato napusnah Bulgariya v
kraya na Okt. nachaloto na Noem. (znachi tochno predi padaneto na bay
Tosho) beshe okolo 10 leva. Chak tolkova ne me e podgonila sklerozata!
S pozdavi,
Ivaylo.
Gratzian Kolev
bozil zaharieff <bgeor...@home.com> wrote in message
news:382DCBD7...@home.com...
> Malko doutochniavane.
>
> Realnata zena se ustanobiava na marketplas, no vapreki che e neobhodimo
> da se napravi zdelka e edin prodavach i edin kupuvach tova nito e
> realnata cena na produkta nito e malket plase.
> realnata cena se ustanoviava na shirok malket plas kadeto ima mnogo
> prodavachi i kupuvachi ili edin prodavach imnogo kupivachi.
> Mozhe da stane zdelka pri edin kupuvach i edin prodavach, no ako se ima
> vpredvid predishni podobni zdelki v protiven sluchai redko se konsumira
> zdelkata.
> Primer:
> Ti si prodavachai ot bashta ti ti e ostanal zlaten chasovnik antika.
> Ti znaesh, che struva mnogo no ne znaesh kolko, sigurno go nadceniavash
> zashtoto ima santimentalna cena za teb.
> az iskam da go kupia ot ted zamo za cenata na zlatotoi dori po malko za
> da naprava dobra pechaba.
> Niama drugi kupuvachi. az ti predlagam $10. Tova li e cenatana tozi
> chasovnik? Razbira se che ne.
> Ti misleshe che struva $10,000, no i tova ne e cenata zashtoto yolko
> struva za teb vkluchitelno santimentalnata cena.
> Kakva e istinskata cena?
> Nai dobre se opredelia kogato ima kupuvachi i ti postepeno ili navedazh
> namalish cenata i nekoi se saglasi .Primerno $500.
> Zenata e $500. Ne e %10 i ne e$10,000.
> Azznam, che go znaesh, no mozhe bi e lipsos-lingve??
>
Prav si che realnata cena se opredelja na marketplace, no realnata cena na
transakcijata (t.e pokupko-prodazhbata) shte byde tazi na kojato kupovachyt
reshi da zakupi predmeta. V tvoja primer tova shte reche, che nie ili shte
se sporazumeem za cena, kojato da e kompromisna za nas dvamata ili njama da
skljuchim zdelkata. Ako dvamata se syglasim na kompromisi, to cenata za
kojato chasovnika shte premine ot moite ryce v tvoite shte e realnata cena
na pokupko-prodazhbata (prosto zashtoto shte ima takava), pri polozhenie che
nie se otkazhem, to transakcija njama da ima i predlaganata ot teb cena shte
bude mnogo visoka za men, a tazi kojato ti mi predlagash shte bude mnogo
niska za men...sledovatelno- nerealna. Sled izvestno vreme, eventualno, az
bih nameril kupovach, s kojto bihme "napravili delaverata" na cena
udvoletvorjavashta i dvete strani (t.e realna i za dvete strani) kakto i ti
bi nameril prodavach na chasovnik kojto bi se syglasil na neshto koeto bi
udvoletvorilo i dvama vi. Predpolagam che razbirash mojata logika.
Pozdravi
Gratzian
Peter....@turner.com
Tarifata Varna-Albena tova ljato (Avgust) beshe fiksirana na 25,000
stari leva, (30,000lv do letishteto), tebe neshto sa te prekarali. A
che sedjat prazni tova e istina.
Pozdrav
PPaunov
sp...@erols.com
Peter....@turner.com wrote:
Let's imagine for a moment that she correctly or incorrectly calculated the
present day value of old leva for pensioners to new leva for pensioners.
Whatever the case, accurate or inaccurate, does anyone fail to
substantially disagree with a couple of her major points, namely that the
people are poor, that many are depressed over less hope for the future, and
so on? No one here seemingly feels like substantially critiquing the
article or even critiquing its effect on readers considering it was in a
prominent publication.
Stephan Manov
>
> stef...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> : Vsashtnost, prez 1989 $1 beshe 8-10 leva, v rezultat na "Goliamata
> : ekskurzia" i dr. takiva.
>
> 7 leva beshe. 8 beshe tavana. Pone ljatoto na 1989.
>
> Taxitata karaha na 30-35 stotinki na kilometar. Varna - Albena za 10
> leva me karaha. Malko poveche ot dolar. Sega slozhili edni tseni 50-100
> USD, sedjat prazni i chakat Elton John da se pojavi i kachi v kolata.
v "kolata" e uslovno. ako ne e nyakoya boyadisana v julto razdrunkana
jigula, to to e opel kadet ot 1985.
SM
Peter....@turner.com
sp...@erols.com wrote:
>
>
> Peter....@turner.com wrote:
>
> > In article <80k8d5$144$1...@oravannahka.helsinki.fi>,
> > > stef...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > >
> > > : Vsashtnost, prez 1989 $1 beshe 8-10 leva, v rezultat
na "Goliamata
> > > : ekskurzia" i dr. takiva.
> > >
> > > 7 leva beshe. 8 beshe tavana. Pone ljatoto na 1989.
> > >
> > > Taxitata karaha na 30-35 stotinki na kilometar. Varna - Albena za
10
> > > leva me karaha. Malko poveche ot dolar. Sega slozhili edni tseni
50-
> > 100
> > > USD, sedjat prazni i chakat Elton John da se pojavi i kachi v
kolata.
> >
> > stari leva, (30,000lv do letishteto), tebe neshto sa te prekarali. A
> > che sedjat prazni tova e istina.
> >
> > Pozdrav
> >
> > PPaunov
> >
>
> Let's imagine for a moment that she correctly or incorrectly
> calculated the present day value of old leva for pensioners to new
> leva for pensioners.
> Whatever the case, accurate or inaccurate, does anyone fail to
> substantially disagree with a couple of her major points, namely that
> the people are poor, that many are depressed over less hope for the
> future, and so on?
This woman's letter is both factually and analytically misleading.
Other posters have already dealt with that, maybe you have missed their
comments.
In short, the lawlessness in Bulgarian society, the lack of enterprise
and risk taking, the lack of a spirit of civil consciousness is all of
our own making and these are all problems that maybe could have been
made less obvious by a generous helping of Western cash but essentially
have to be resolved within us in order to make any ouside help
effective.
The West should be blamed however. It has a moral responsibility
towards the people of Eastern Europe. It spent billions and billions
fighting a Communist system which in many places was established with
the blessing of the West against the will of the people, they should
spend the same amounts and effort preparing these people for Capitalism
and Democracy. I believe they helped, but helped in a descriminatory
manner (those geographically nearer to the West benefited most). In the
case of Bulgaria one can safely say that Western help has been
negligable and interest has been minimal. Kosovo sort of changed this
(so far just in words), however this only proves that the West is re-
active and not pro-active.
> No one here seemingly feels like substantially
> critiquing the article or even critiquing its effect on readers
> considering it was in a prominent publication.
You are wrong. The article has been dealt with appropriately here with
one writer even sending a letter to the publication in question.
Pozdrav
PP
Julian Dontchev
: v "kolata" e uslovno. ako ne e nyakoya boyadisana v julto razdrunkana
: jigula, to to e opel kadet ot 1985.
Edin s edna takava kola me vodi na plazh. Zavalja leten dazhd. Az sam na
prednata sedalka. Shasito mu beshe puknato i voda vlizashe otdol. Trjabvashe da
si vdigam krakata nagore za da ne gi namokrja. Tochno predi Zlatni
Pjasatsi goljama lokva. Taxito zatana i ne mozhe da prodalzhi. Onja
shofjora me kara da mu pomagam da butame za da izkarame kolata ot
lokvata. Uzhas. Nakraja i pari mi vze :-)
bozil zaharieff
obmenial okolo 1990g. ot levove v Dolari, zashtoto ne sam imal levove.
Hranil sam se v Restoranta na hotela i smetkata sa ia slagali na staiata
i eld tova sam podpisal samo cmetkata na kredit karta i sami davali
mnogo stranici sas smetki za 20-21 dni predstoi. Smetkata beshe goliama,
zashtoto vkluchvashe prane, room servis, bar, mazazhi, i kakvo li ne.
Biah 1988, 1989, 1990 i 1991g. vav sashtia hotel i ponezhe ne sam
rabotil prez tezi godini s levove e lesno da sam ostanal s pogreshno
vpechatlenie.
BZ
Rafael Maldonado wrote:
>
> In article <382D5449...@helsinki.fi>, Nikolay Vitanov
> <nikolay...@helsinki.fi> wrote:
>
> > bozil zaharieff wrote:
> >
> > > In Dec.,1989 $1 = 2 stari leva.
> >
> >
Daniel Nikovski
> "... So people feel lost, faced suddenly with
> responsibilities they were not educated to assume,
> exposed to newcomers jetting in to buy up things or run
> them before jetting out again for the weekend, unable to
> orient themselves in a society based on risk and
> achievement rather than security and conformity.
>
> "And people with narrow horizons who cannot solve
> their problems look for their Jew, or their Turk -- or
> their Wessi," ... or the West in general and the
> United States in particular.
Ami pravilno. Sega vyprosyt e dali tezi pravila shte se priemat kato
neshto obektivno, s koeto horata tryabva da se spravyat, ili shte
se pishat podobni zhalni pisma.
--daniel
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/europe/eastern-europe-index.html
>
>
> IT
>
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > > http://www.nytimes.com/99/11/11/oped/11donc.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > November 11, 1999
> > > >
> > > > In Bulgaria, 10 Years of Misery
> > > >
> > > > By BLAGOVESTA DONCHEVA
> > > >
> > > > SOFIA, Bulgaria -- We here in
> > > > Bulgaria have had democracy since
> > > > 1989. What has happened during these
> > > > last 10 years?
> > > >
> > > > The International Monetary Fund and
> > > > the World Bank are successfully
> > > > devouring Bulgarian industry. They
> > > > have insisted on the privatization of
> > > > Bulgaria's plants and factories. In
> > > > many cases, the Bulgarian government,
> > > > which diligently follows the I.M.F.'s
> > > > advice, sold these factories to
> > > > powerful foreign corporations. And
> > > > these corporations often liquidated
> > > > the businesses (a new way to fight the
> > > > competition!).
> > > >
> > > > What is the result? Hordes of
> > > > unemployed workers, beggars in the
> > > > streets, old people digging in rubbish
> > > > containers for some rag or moldy piece
> > > > of bread.
> > > >
> > > > Our social fabric is falling apart.
> > > > Before 1989, Bulgaria was a socialist
> > > > state: free medical care and education
> > > > for everyone. Mothers and the elderly
> > > > received other aid and privileges.
> > > >
> > > > Now, since the fall of Communism, I
> > > > see more and more children who have
> > > > dropped out of public school. Their
> > > > parents cannot provide them with shoes
> > > > and clothes, never mind textbooks and
> > > > paper.
> > > >
> > > > Things are no better for the elderly.
> > > > In 1989, my friend's mother's pension
> > > > had been about 105 leva a month. Now
> > > > it is 46 leva a month, a little more
> > > > than $24.
> > > >
> > > > There are many people, especially
> > > > those who are older than 30, who are
> > > > not working. Nobody needs them; nobody
> > > > offers work to them. The job offers in
> > > > the newspapers repeatedly demand that
> > > > applicants be no more than 30 years
> > > > old. And even if you are under 30,
> > > > what do you get? You have the chance
> > > > to slave for 12 hours for next to
> > > > nothing for a newly hatched business.
> > > >
> > > > In January, the last remnants of our
> > > > socialized state will be taken away.
> > > > The government will no longer
> > > > subsidize train tickets for students,
> > > > the elderly and mothers with children.
> > > > This means that people will be forced
> > > > to stay either in the towns or in the
> > > > villages, which will hurt active
> > > > pensioners and the unemployed. Now,
> > > > they add to their meager family
> > > > incomes through some occasional jobs
> > > > in the towns, or they go to the
> > > > village and grow vegetables and fruit
> > > > for the winter in their fathers'
> > > > gardens. It made economic sense when
> > > > they were traveling by train at half
> > > > price. After the new year, it will be
> > > > senseless.
> > > >
> > > > We are undergoing untold hardships,
> > > > yet George Soros, the financier, eggs
> > > > us on, telling us to open our
> > > > boundaries, make ourselves an open
> > > > society. But we in Bulgaria have
> > > > learned the hard way what those pretty
> > > > slogans mean. It means killing the
> > > > industry that is managing to stay
> > > > alive in Bulgaria. Turkish imports are
> > > > flooding the market. Socks made in
> > > > Bulgaria are selling for 1 leva; I
> > > > have seen Turkish socks, selling for
> > > > half a leva. So soon we will have only
> > > > Turkish socks, and no jobs.
> > > >
> > > > Lots of low-quality food products and
> > > > other goods flow freely into Bulgaria,
> > > > undermining the efforts of local
> > > > producers. I have a cousin who has a
> > > > small farm with four cows. He hasn't
> > > > been able to sell his calves for two
> > > > successive years. He is crushed. The
> > > > companies that buy veal explain that
> > > > they prefer to work with the frozen
> > > > meat imported from Greece at low
> > > > prices, ready to be stuffed and turned
> > > > into salami or sausages.
> > > >
> > > > What is the West offering us in return
> > > > for this misery? What is the great
> > > > attraction for a foreign corporation
> > > > in a devastated country? The cheap
> > > > labor and national resources!
> > > >
> > > > So much for open boundaries. So much
> > > > for an open society. I personally live
> > > > in misery, but I can still manage. It
> > > > is the sight of the old men and women
> > > > digging into the rubbish containers
> > > > that is breaking my heart.
> > > >
> > > > Before the fall of Communism, I and
> > > > many others believed that the
> > > > Communist government was lying about
> > > > the United States of America. We
> > > > thought all its warnings about America
> > > > were simply propaganda.
> > > >
> > > > And from 1989 to 1993, I was a
> > > > democratic activist. That was before I
> > > > understood the true work of the I.M.F.
> > > > or the World Bank or the transnational
> > > > corporations and their policy of
> > > > expansion. We fell for the seductive
> > > > talk about democracy and openness. Now
> > > > 10 years later, I wish we hadn't.
Nicolas M Kostoff
Gratzian Kolev wrote:
> Za syzhalenie cenoobrazuvaneto ne zavisi samo ot prodavacha...toest:
> realnata cena na daden product e tazi, kojato kupuvachut e gotov da dade za
> neja. :))
Idi go kaji tova na MS, kogato si obrazuva cenite za BG
N K