1) How do Bulgarian men view themselves and their role in society and
the family?
2) Where do Bulgarian men generally get their ideas and models for
masculinity? From their own father? From other men? From movies, TV,
magazines? Other?
3) What is the role of the father in a typical Bulgarian family?
4) What is the typical family unit in Bulgaria?
5) In general, how do Bulgarian men treat women? Are they abusive?
6) How do Bulgarian fathers treat their children?
7) Do Bulgarian men use pornography regularly?
8) Are Bulgarian men prone to extra-marital affairs?
9) Is pre-marital sex considered permissible?
10) Is divorce common in Bulgaria? Easily available?
11) What is the divorce rate in Bulgaria?
12) Is there a high incidence of alcoholism among Bulgarian men?
13) Is there a high incidence of drug abuse among Bulgarian men?
14)How would describe the typical Bulgarian man today?
Thank you to anyone who will respond to these questions.
Larry Duncan
PO Box 2910
Cleveland, TN 37320-2910 USA
la...@wingnet.net
There have been cases during the last years when sects and cults were
actively recruiting people (mostly children) and zombifying them (there were
even cases of ritual suicides etc.). I suppose your case is not such, and
that you will object against such policies and deny any allegiation to them,
but these cults were doing the same, so the people may not believe you
easily. For this reason, the Bulgarian society may turn a bit hostile against
non-traditional denominations (I know nothing about the Christian men's
movement, but I suppose that it is not affiliated with the Bulgarian Orthodox
Church).
For most of the questions you asked, the answer is "As everywhere -
differently". I will try to answer the rest.
> 4) What is the typical family unit in Bulgaria?
Parents, children, sometimes grandparents.
> 5) In general, how do Bulgarian men treat women? Are they abusive?
The common rumor is that yes, they are. My impression from the background of
the US movies (that is, the scenes that aren't related to the main idea of
the movie and are expected to reflect the average ordinary state of the
things) is that the situation in the two countries is not too different. In
most families I know the men certainly are not abusive.
> 7) Do Bulgarian men use pornography regularly?
For most part they don't, as far as I know.
> 9) Is pre-marital sex considered permissible?
Generally yes, at least for men. (Novadays, for most part, for the women too.)
> 10) Is divorce common in Bulgaria? Easily available?
Unhappily, it's common. Though quite costly for an average Bulgarian, it is
available.
> 12) Is there a high incidence of alcoholism among Bulgarian men?
Unhappily, yes. In the small towns and villages it's sometimes nearly 100%.
That is probably the place where your help will be most needed.
> 13) Is there a high incidence of drug abuse among Bulgarian men?
Among the adult men it's low - I beileve that it's much lower than that in,
e.g. Benelux.
Thank you for the desire to help.
--
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>I work in the Christian men's movement in the US and plan to visit
>Bulgaria in the spring of 1999. I would like some insight into the
>mindset of men in your country. If someone would care to answer any or
>all of the following questions, I would be most appreciative.
"Care" is my middle name, as they say.
I will help you.
>1) How do Bulgarian men view themselves and their role in society and
>the family?
The Bulgarian man wears the pants in the family. He is the Provider and
the Protector. He hangs pictures, changes the oil in the car, chops wood,
kills mice, spanks the kids, scratches his crotch, drinks beer, watches
football and does all the rest of the manly things that all manly men around
the world do.
>2) Where do Bulgarian men generally get their ideas and models for
>masculinity? From their own father? From other men? From movies, TV,
>magazines? Other?
It's inbred. We get it in our blood stream. Nobody has to teach us
these things in Bulgaria. We just do them.
Now, American men ...they have to be taught. There's little manly left
in them. They need roles and models. But that's because they have been
squashed as peoples by the womyn libbers, environmentalists,
save-the-whalers, liberals, gun control activists, baptists,
multi-culturalists and other unhealthy social elements that dominate
American society.
....Actualy, come to think of it, the Bulgarian man has a model of
sorts. He's called Krali Marco - a historic and literary figure known to
every little Bulgarian boy. When Krali Marco has one foot in Stanbul and
another foot in Belgrad, his balls would hang directly above the Pirin
mountains. Once, the story goes, he wasn't careful enough and squated a bit
low, banging his balls on them mountains. The result is that in the area of
Blagoevgrad (or at least that's what the town was called during Communism -
now they may have changed the name) you have a mountain ridge with two dips
in it. Anyhow, to cut the story short, Krali Marco is your archetypical
Bulgarian Man - balls bigger than mountains and harder than stone.
>3) What is the role of the father in a typical Bulgarian family?
Hang pictures, change the oil, spank the kids, watch football... see
above.
...If the father has failed to raised his kids as levskars, he has
failed his fatherly duties.
>4) What is the typical family unit in Bulgaria?
Why, you got your wife, you mistress, your fiance and your girlfriend.
Few sheep and a buncha kids completes the unit. What more could a man want?
>5) In general, how do Bulgarian men treat women? Are they abusive?
No. Women in Bulgaria are well behaved.
>6) How do Bulgarian fathers treat their children?
With firm tenderness.
>7) Do Bulgarian men use pornography regularly?
Nah. ...But they jack off as much as any other man, statistically
speaking.
>8) Are Bulgarian men prone to extra-marital affairs?
If he can get pussy outside the domicile, he'll most likely get it, if
that's what you mean by "prone to extra-marital affairs".
>9) Is pre-marital sex considered permissible?
Yup.
>10) Is divorce common in Bulgaria? Easily available?
Not as common as in the States, that's for sure. Available - yes. But up
to recently (and probably still now) there's a stigma associated with a
divorced woman.
>11) What is the divorce rate in Bulgaria?
I dunno. Much less than 50% though.
>12) Is there a high incidence of alcoholism among Bulgarian men?
The consumption and enjoyment of spirits and fine foods is the mark of
any men's man. "Alcoholism" is a social category, not a medical one. Someone
considered alcoholic in the US will probably fit just fine in Bulgaria. It
depends on your definition, I suppose.
The old Oklala Indian who chews peyote is a holy man. The American
hippie
kid that chews peyote is a junky. It depends on who does it and what are the
circumstances under which it is done.
Do not fail to remember that America was founded by a bunch of Puritans.
Bulgaria was founded by fighters, scholars, lovers and hell-raisers. There
is a significant difference. With your American birth and a
baptist/protestant upbringing, you'll have a very difficult time relating to
your so called "Bulgarian man".
To understand the Bulgarian Man's inner soul, you have to turn to
history and research the roots of his consciousness there. The Bulgarians
came from Middle Asia because they were tired of the scenery over there. You
can bang slant-eyed chicks only for so long. It gets boring. So, the few top
men got together for a council and said: "We gotta do something about the
situation here. The men are tired of Mongolian women and dry yak meet. We
gotta move." So they came to the Balkans where the chicks are blond and
blue-eyed and where instead of dry yak meat and horse milk they were fed
honey, chickens, eggs, grapes, apples and prunes. The Bulgarian Man liked
that so He rounded up the Slavs and told 'em: "Listen, pukes, we'll be
banging your women and eating your food, because we like it. In exchange,
we'll protect you against the Byzantium Empire and anybody else who'd come
to bother you." The Slavs thought that it was a good deal and so they
agreed. That's how the First Bulgarian Kingdom was born.
Now, consider the history of the United States. Puritans seeking safe
heaven and moraly pure surroundings... I hope you see the dificulties of
relating.
>13) Is there a high incidence of drug abuse among Bulgarian men?
No.
As long as the Bulgarian Man has booze and pussy, He needs no other
stimulants to keep Him happy.
>14)How would describe the typical Bulgarian man today?
A figher, a scholar, a lover and a hell-raiser. Dark hair, slightly
balding, smokes a cigarette (Slqnce - local brand, no filter), scratching
his belly, waiting in the local deli to get bread and beer. His name is
Stoyan. His wife's name is Katrinka and his girlfriend's name is Steisi.
>Thank you to anyone who will respond to these questions.
Don't mention it.
Love,
-= Man_Being =-
Nachi potres! Az pa ne vidiah ni edin takqf dokat biah tam
:((((( Se az da se mina :(((((
Ti vidia li???
J./Tqjno propusnala!/ :(((((
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Abe to naposledqk kato otvorish s.c.b. i vidish 100 zaglavia za geiove i kuhi
tikvi, oshte sto za Hall-laino-ween i ostanalite za voennta slujba i nakraia
edno za BgMan, smeesh li da chetesh! Kak pqk izvednqj zacikliha v trite si
liubimi temi ednovremenno! Za geiovete niamam kakvo da kaja - kakvo praviat
dvama vqzrastni i napqlno v sqznanieto si hora v spalniata ne me interesuva,
nito pqk mogat s neshto da zasegnat sobstvenite mi cennosti i seksualna
orientacia. Poveche me pritesniavat proiavite na taka narechenite "normalni"
mqje - samo da vzemem predvid broia na iznasilvaniata i na seksualnite
prestqplenia sreshtu jeni ... I daje mai iznasilvaneto ne se smiata za mnogo
tejko prestqplenie. I niakoi kato mu izbie chiviata kakvo pravi - trqgva da
ubiva jeni. Che zashto ne ubiva mqje naprimer? Prez liatoto chetoh v edin
vestnik, cheiznasilvaniata v Chehia se bili uvelichili prez sezona i
obiasnenieto beshe, chetqi kato bilo mnogo toplo, jenite hodeli po-leko
oblecheni i tova vliaelo na mqjete s po nestabilna psihika. Az se chudia
kolko hora razprostraniavat i viarvat na mita, kolko trudno mqjete mojeli da
ne se podchiniat na seksualnite si instinkti i kak obiknoveno jenite bili
vinovni, che se dqrjali predizvikatelno. Ama tova razumni sqhtestva li sa ili
ne? Da ne govorim, che e nevqzmojno edna jena da sedne v niakoi bar vecher da
pie edno pitie, bez da i se lepne niakoi "normalen" da i dosajda. Te ne mogat
da go razberat tova, kakvo e da se vrqshtash vecher kqsno i da se oglejdash
kato prestqpnik da ne bi da te napadne niakoi samo zashtoto si jena! I
trqgnali da mi razpraviat, che homoseksualistite bili bolni.
> > As long as the Bulgarian Man has booze and pussy, He needs no other
> > stimulants to keep Him happy.
> >
> > >14)How would describe the typical Bulgarian man today?
> >
> > A figher, a scholar, a lover and a hell-raiser. Dark hair, slightly
> > balding, smokes a cigarette (Slqnce - local brand, no filter), scratching
> > his belly, waiting in the local deli to get bread and beer. His name is
> > Stoyan. His wife's name is Katrinka and his girlfriend's name is Steisi.
> >
Pone tova za lover-a da beshe viarno.
Lily
Ole-male, useshtam kak se nadiga grupov mqzhki gnyav v s.c.b. sreshtu
gornoto izrechenie:)
Avtorkata mu maj strada ot seksualna nedostatqchnost. Hich biva li tqj...
Svilen
Malko svej polqh v grupata. Ivane, pishi po tcesto tce inatce mnogo mirishe
na muhql v grupata.
> Love,
> -= Man_Being =-
Vesko
Strahotno!
Ot surce se smiah.
Katerina (bez maitap)
Stastlivo razvedena sus bulgarskia si suprug poradi mnozinstvoto ot
doluopisanite kachestva, ponastoiashtem omujena za amerikanec..
In article <71lupd$bkt$4...@camel15.mindspring.com>,
"Crazy" <iv...@mindspring.com> wrote:
Kato che li ima izobshto na sveta niakoya zadovolena jena!
Az pa mislia, Lily, che tqkmo bezsilnoto useshtane za tova
sexualno bezsilie da ni zadovoli pone vednaj - tlaska Mqjqt da
se obediniava v malki grupi za Ikonomicheska Vzaimopomosht,
za da se nahvqrliat poniakoga da iznasilvat niakoya jenica, za da
moje pone vednaj da si legnat sqs spokoyno sqrce, da
poglednat Sqzdatelia si bez sram v ochite - i da kajat: E toa pqt,
nachi, Tatko moi, se otsramihme! Dadohme im da se razberat!
I zaspivat spokoyno, bez da se striaskat kakto drug pqt na sqn
ot UJAS, che Jenata do tiah se vqrti nespokoyno, ne moje da
klopne oko i s tqga se seshta za onezi vremena, kogato ne e
bila vqrzana za edin edinstven Omalomoshten i Vednaga
Zaspivasht ekzempliar ot slaboSilniat Pol i da chaka sqs spotaen
gniav prezarejdaneto na bateriite! :((
Hi, Malkia! :))))) Nov borec za Sexualno Zadovoliavane na
Jenata li si imame??? :))))))) Brao, brao! Pohvalno! :)))))))
Staray se! Shtot edin naskoro predlagashe nekvi spoluchlivi
zamestiteli na lavkite na scb!
Ima, nachi, nekqf napredqk!!! Da ne si se obodril s noviat
preparat???
Nam shto ne izmisliat nikvi VIAGRI za jeni!! A vse za mqje!
TcTcTc! Heehehe! Predstaviam si rezultata!
Be mai-prekaliavame malko s pooshtritelnite vqzdishki nie,
Dobrite i Taktichni Jeni, ta niakoi bodriaci se zeha na
seriozno??!! :(((
J. /ZamislenoPedagogicheski/ :((((((((((((
In article <71ns8b$iip$1...@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu>,
Hiiiihihi! Strahotia!
[more crap deleted]
Abe Being, shto ne vzemesh i da poprochitash malko, a ne samo da pishesh.
Tqj de, kakvo losho sqm kazal? Momicheto se oplakva, che ne mojelo edno
piene da izpie v bara vecher bez da i se lepne nyakoi, posle se kahqri,
che prikazkite na Crazy za bylgarina-lyubovnik ne bili verni, ta zatova
reshih, che ya goni lyuboven deficit.
To mai i ti si ot neinata partiya, gledam vse po kqsni izraelski dobi ti
se poyavyavat pisaniyata, i vse edni takiva - s mnogo prepinatelni znaci
i mezhdumetiya - mai mu gavrqtvash po edno-dve predi da sednesh na
kompyutqra, a? A shto li pravi ManBeing-a po tui vreme, mai ne ti
osiguryava dostatqchno emocii, ta si gi tqrsish tuk? Ili bqrkam?
: Hi, Malkia! :)))))
E, merci, merci. Ima-nyama 30 godini otkak za posleden pqt chuh nyakoi da
se obrqshta kym men taka:))
: Nov borec za Sexualno Zadovoliavane na
: Jenata li si imame??? :))))))) Brao, brao! Pohvalno! :)))))))
: Staray se! Shtot edin naskoro predlagashe nekvi spoluchlivi
: zamestiteli na lavkite na scb!
: Ima, nachi, nekqf napredqk!!! Da ne si se obodril s noviat
: preparat???
Neshto chuvstvoto za humor ti izneveryava mai. Napqvash se, ama nishto ne
izliza. Shto bqrzash da otgovaryash, predi da si prochela vtoroto
izrechenie?
I zashto pqk nov borec? Az si se borya tuk otdavna, pqk ti otskoro se vklyuchi
smelo v borbata i bqrzash da navaksash sqs stahanovski plam.
: Nam shto ne izmisliat nikvi VIAGRI za jeni!! A vse za mqje!
: TcTcTc! Heehehe! Predstaviam si rezultata!
:
: Be mai-prekaliavame malko s pooshtritelnite vqzdishki nie,
: Dobrite i Taktichni Jeni, ta niakoi bodriaci se zeha na
: seriozno??!! :(((
?? Tuk mai oshte dve bqrzi si udarila, ta smisqlqt sqvsem se gubi :)
Hei, J, na teb lafa za prepodobniya otec i flatulenciyata kazval li sqm
ti go? Ama hajde da ne citiram originala, shte te ostavya da napravish
malko research, to sega tqj e moderno :)
Zhivi-zdravi (I ne podskachai tolkova navisoko de, toku vizh si si
nadskochila syankata :))
Svilen
Pfu, niakoi go obiasniavat, che neshtastnite mqje im lipsvala uverensot v
sebe si i vidite li v tozi emancipiran sviat, jenite stanali mnogo agresivni
i tova sqvsem gi dovqrshilo! Ami da otidat pri psihiatqr togava ... Te i s
tova obisniavat zashto mqjete hodeli pri prostitutki - ami vmesto da se
mqchish da svaliash niakoia jena, da i kupuvash cvetia, pqk da ia kanish na
vecheria (i osven tova otkqde mojesh da bqdesh siguren kakqv shte bqde
krainia rezultat?), pqk posle da se mqchish i da ia zadovoliavash - vmesto
tova, plashtash si, obslujvat te i si zminavash. Pa da se ogledat malko v
jivotinskia sviat - kakvo praviat mqjkite ekzempliari, za da zavladeiat
niakoia jenska.
On 4 Nov 1998 05:18:53 GMT svil...@indiana.edu (Svilen Stoicheff) wrote:
> I zashto pqk nov borec? Az si se borya tuk otdavna, pqk ti otskoro se vklyuchi
> smelo v borbata i bqrzash da navaksash sqs stahanovski plam.
>
A, razbra li sega na kakvo se dlqji spravedlivia mqjki gniav? Moje li
niakakvi si parveniuta, deto pishat v s.c.b. ot dva-tri meseca, da izkazvat
mnenia, predi da sa procheli vsichko pisano niakoga ot klasicite na s.c.b.,
koito pishat otdavna-a-a ...
Lily
Taka che sqzaliavam, ako sqm zasegnala pochtenite ti
namerenia!
Za skachaneto i prepinatelnite znaci - absoliutno si prav! Ripam
vednaga! :)))))
I za mqjqt mi sqshto! Spi si, chovekqt! A az tayno - na
kompiutera!
A az se sqbujdam kqm 4 chasa - ostatqk ot po-shtastlivi
vremena, kogato imah i pomoshtnik-sqprug, ta triabvashe da
mu pisha kilometri pisma, za da ne e mnogo samoten sutrin,
kogato se sqbudi dalech ot niakolkoto si liubimi - vse ni
podbirashe dalechni, za da ne mu se prechkame v krakata. Ot
tam i mnogoto prepinatelni znaci - mnoo chuvstva! Poniakoga
se vrqshtam nazad i iztrivam goliamo kolichestvo, poniakoga
vikam - are, be, koi li me pa chete tolko! Nekvi komp. specialisti,
kolko li razbirat ot literatura i gramatika! /onzi ne razbirashe, ili
pone ne licheshe da razbira/ Ma mai tva nai go razbirate :((
A sqprug se pazi, Svilene, da trae dqlgo! Ne se polzva kakto
vremennite exempliari! I na - kat ne moje poveche - hodim si
nedozadovoleni... :(((
Ne che niama koi - ma na edni godini chovek pochva da stava
vziskatelen. Osobeno kat se poopari.
A inache iskreno se radvam, che ne sqm te razbrala! Inache
mnoo gadno - da prochetesh kak vinovnikqt za nezadovolenieto
otgore pa se i gavri s trupcheto!
S iskreno vzeta zabelejka ostavam - a onova niama da go tqrsia
v researcha - ako iskash mi go emailiray!
J. /Priatno vqzbudena/
He-he, gospodin Stoicheff, standartnia otgovor na standartnia mqj (ili
pod-standartnia?). Ako niakoia jena se oplache ot kakvoto i da bilo -
iasno, strada or seksualna nedostatqchnost. Vie mai ne pravite razlika
mejdu love i sex?
I edva li niakoi mqj, koito niama kompleksi otnosno kachestvata si na
"lover" shte se razgnevi ot gornoto izrechenie.
Lily
P.S. I samo ne mi otgovariaite pak, che tova, koeto sqm otgovorila
niama nishto obshto s tova, koeto vie ste pisal. Niamam namerenie da vi
obiasniavam kakvo sqm iskala da kaja i s chertej.
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Nyamam namerenie da prodqlzhavam tozi spor, dosega spor s zhena ne sqm
spechelil, nyama tepqrva da sqzdavam precedenti ya :)). Oshte poveche,
che dvete s.c.b.-pisatelki se obediniha sreshtu kosmatiya vrag...
Kqde si, be Crazy? Pomagai tuk, shto samo puskash po nyakoe biserche i
se skrivash:))?
Kakto i da e.
Uvazhaemi dami, sgreshih, priznavam se za pobeden, bqdete
zhivi, zdravi, krasivi i lyubveobilni.
Svilen
>Pfu, niakoi go obiasniavat, che neshtastnite mqje im lipsvala uverenost v sebe si i vidite li v tozi emancipiran sviat, jenite stanali mnogo agresivni i tova sqvsem gi dovqrshilo!
Heeehehehe! Chakai, che se setih edna istinska istoria, ma dali
shte ya razkaja taka smeshno, kakto mi ya razkaza edna moya
priyatelka - hudojnichka, ama po na vqzrast ot men! S neya se
spriatelihme mnogo po vreme na edna slujebna komandirovka v
SSSR - Moskva, kqdeto ni prati za dve sedmici s mqjqt mi
rodnoto SBH /Sqiuzqt na hudojnicite/, da izpqlnim edno
hudojestveno pano - mozayka, po proekt na mqjqt mi. Tva ni
se sluchi samo edin pqt - da presecha zavistnicheskite vqlnenia.
Da ne govorim sega kolko absurdna i neobiasnima beshe tam
istoriata - sreshtu stadion Dinamo, na vtoriat etaj v nekva
sgrada se preustroyavashe edin restorant v Bg-restorant "AIST"!
Bilo modno v SSSR da ima Bg restorant! Ceniaha ni, horata!
Kolko li mangizi struvashe tozi restorant i na kogo??? Sled kato
cenite v SSSR biaha pone 10 pqti po-niski ot Bg, a bachkatorite
poluchavaha za truda si pone 5 pqti poveche, otkolkoto v BG.
Tam ot meseci se boreshe edna Bg brigada - kak niama da se
bori s meseci, kato poluchavaha lud mangiz! Nashite
komandirovqchni biaha 20 rubli na den na chovek, kogato za
80 kopeyki se obiadvashe s pone tri neshta vqv vsichki
zakusvalni. A v Gostinnicata KOSMOS - toku shto pusnata pqrvi
sezon - beshe 1981 god - sled universiadata /Oh, lele, i tva
zabraih - kakvo svetovno sportno sqbitie se sqstoia 1980g. tam,
po vreme na koeto pochina Visocki?/- ta v chistak noviat hotel
Kosmos - neshto kato Sofia, ama ogromno - za 25 rubli 5
dushi ciala vecher piruvahme na tumbak! Pusnaha ni samo zarad
chujbinskite pasporti!
Kolko stroyaha - ne pitayte! No pone Bg rabotnicite biaha mqje!
Ruskata brigada se sqstoeshe ot desetina TETKI po na okolo 100
kg i sorok let, koito se zanimavaha s vsiakakva rabota. Kqm tiah
imashe prikrepen edin hlapak na 17-18 godini - taka i ne razbrah
zashto! Kogato i da go potqrseha - vse se okazvashe, che toi se
e skril v nekvi stari parcali i spi! Vednaj go tqrsiha okolo 40 min,
za da zabiel edin piron v stenata! Nakraya go otkriha pak zaspal
- i s mnogo veseli vikove i prokliatia go dovliakoha, vrqchiha mu
chuk, piron i go zaobikoliha predvidlivo - da nabliudavat
sqbitieto. Toi capardosa 3-4 pqti pirona, te kazaha, che sa
dovolni, sled koeto toi sqobshti na vseoslushanie: Nu vooot,
komunizm nemnojko postroen! I pak izchezna za celi dni. Nie
im vzehme akqla na vsichki, che rabotehme kat smahnati po 12-
14 chasa na den i svqrshihme rabota, koyato mojeshe da
raztegliame cial mesec za po-malko ot dve sedmici. Ma biahme
vqrzani - v kqshti ostavihme bez nadzor mqnichkoto ni
momichence, dve kuchenca, dve ptichenca "finki" i niakolko
babi! Umirahme da se vqrnem obratno!
Ta paralelno s nas beshe doshla da nadzirava montiraneto na
svoeto dekorativno pano edna osoba, koyato vijdah za pqrvi
pqt. Dosta po-vqzrastna, moje bi na vqzrastta na roditelite mi -
elegantna, bivsha modna designerka na CNSM i podobni firmi,
slaba, visoka, s vid na rodena anglichanka, s ogromno chene,
prodran glas na propadnal mqj i neveroyateno cinichen ezik! Az
se hileh leko pritesneno, no mqjqt mi, koito e oshte po-
cenzuriran ot men - napravo se pobqrkvashe, zashtoto tia
govoreshe neshta, koito te spukvaha ot smiah, no vinagi
izpqstreni s neveroyatni mrqsotii! :((((( Tia hudojnichki!!!...
Ot neya chuh edin mnoo gaden laf, koito probutah oshte
pqrviat pqt, kogato uspiah da se vmqkna na IRC #bulgaria - i
kvo da vidia - psuvat se mladite bqlgarcheta kato samozabravili
se! I kazah v znak na protest neshto s tozi laf - sled koeto me
bannaha pone za dve sedmici! Mi de da znam az, che imalo i
takiva pinizi!
A tya togava kaza na Glavniat shef - koito mnogo ni se
slagashe i obeshtavashe da ni vodi na Lebedinnoto ozero - s
ujasniat si pervrzen glas - Abe, Nikolov! Ti golem go vadish,
ama mek! Kqde ti e Bolshoy teatr?? ... Lele, primriah ot ujas!
Ta ottogaz stanahme strahotni priatelki s neya, sediahme v
kafeto na SBH i si govorehme protiv sichko, koeto ni mine prez
akqla! A imashe mnogo!
I niakolko godini sled biagstvoto - zavrqshtam se az v Rodinata
za pqrvi pqt - vsichko promeneno, no vse oshte SDS se praeha
na demokratichna mafia, ta imashe nekqf podem v
ikonomikata, narodqt beshe oshte shtastliv i obnadejden.
I sreshtam Vesela - elegaantnaaa! Poluchila kupishta restituirani
pari i imoti - toku shto zavqrnala se ot CA, kqdeto sediala pri
plemennika si pone 6 meseca - i pqrvoto i poseshtenie v SBH
kafeto. Razmeniame si informacia - za jivota, za poznati. I mi
razkaza kakvo i se sluchilo predi dve-tri vecheri.
Tqkmo se pribrala ot aerogarata - s vse bagaja si - malko se
potutkala iz kqshtata, i izvednaj chuva - zvqni se na vratata!
Bez da e predupredena, che niakoi iska da ya poseti. I tia pita
koi e - mqlchanie. Veche poizplashena malko - prez tova vreme
v Bg imashe edna porediaca grabeji i druga - iznasilvane na
bezbrejno stari babichki! Oshte ne biaha se sluchvali takiva
neshta, ta horata gi prejiviavaha. Sega nikogo ne mogat da
uchudiat!
Ta pita tia koi e - nikoi ne otgovaria. A jivee na peti etaj na
kqshta. Podvuumila se - pa otvorila. Sreshtu neya edin ogromen
subekt - cialoto mu lice v brada i kosmi. Sedi i se puli - sqs sini
ochi. Tia kazva - E? Toi mqlchi i se puli! Tia kazva - Are de!???
Toi mqlchi. Ni vliza, ni si otiva, ni kazva neshto! Tia si doobula
chehlite, s koeto deystvie ya zavaril taynstveniat posetitel i pak
se vgledala v nego. I pomqlchali zaedno. Nakraya se yadosala i
mu kazala: e are de! Sega kakvo! She se iznasilvame li, ili shte se
ograbvame! - izigrava mi situaciata s prodraniat si glas na dqrt
prostitut! Az veche se hiliaaaaa, she umra! A tia vika - ne, be,
ne be! Ti ne znaesh! Tuk sega e na moda da se iznasilvat
babichki! Izleze ni i na nas kqsmeta! Kolkoto e po-stara - po-
goliam merak! Shtot po-mladite jeni ne im bili interesni -
vednaga se sqglasiavali! Dori obratno - te samite iznasilvali
mqjete. A babichkite se boreli - i tva karalo mqjqt da se
chuvstva pobeditel i mqj - i strahotno sme sea na moda!...
Izpotrqshkah se ot smiah!
A to kva bila rabotata - tva bil Lourens - avstriyski hudojnik,
kogoto az zavarih v akademiata i dqlgo vreme biah periferno
vliubena v nego - samo tozi moy ujas ot chujdenci :(((( Naistina
beshe 2 metra visok, s ogromno bradishte, chudni sini ochi i
krasota - hem na bial chovek, hem na mqjaga! Samo edin kusur
imashe - che beshe potomstven komunist! I zatva beshe izbral
BG akademia da se uchi, zaedno s fakta, che samo v Bg vse
oshte prodqljavali da prepodavat po klasicheskiat nachin
izkustvo, toi ne hqresval modernoto.
Ta tozi Lori beshe se poyavil v Bg sled edno otsqstvie ot pone
15-20 godini i edin nash kolega go dovel u Vesela - i se skril do
stenata da nabliudava smaivaneto i pri razpoznavaneto, bez da
vzeme predvid vqlnata iznasilvania v Bg i nakqde moje da krivne
misqlta na edna dqrta hudojnichka s perverzen glas!
Mnoo e smeshna taia Vesela! Chudia se jiva li e oshte! Riadqk
cheshit beshe! Kogato iskaha da napraviat nekqf skandal v SBH
- vinagi ya navivaha neya za "pravoto" i tia se iztqpanchvashe
na sqbraniata i gi sipeshe jestoki po adres na shefovete!
Haaahaha! Gotina jena!
Ta ima neshto v dumite ti, Lily!
J.
I az se priznavam za pobedena i sgreshena!
Vqzstanoviavame te na prestola, Svilene! I bez tva si padam po
tva ime! Otdavna!
J. /Are, Lily, day da mu prostim??? Toi se pokaya istinski, a i
priatelchetata mu si zamqlchaha guzni - niama da ostavim da
pogine edinstveniat smel mqj, ya!!!!?????/
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> Nam shto ne izmisliat nikvi VIAGRI za jeni!! A vse za mqje!
> TcTcTc! Heehehe! Predstaviam si rezultata!
>
Izmislili sa veche. Zavchera slushah po radioto reklama tochno za tova.
A dali toi, amerikanec@t, nyama da napishe sled godini "shtastlivo
razveden s b@lgarskat si sz@pruga...."
N K
Hm! Interesno, kak li deystva?
Az veche mislih po vqprosa dali VIAGRA niama v/u jenite nekvo
priatno vqzdeystvie za povdigane i vtvqrdiavane na niakoi
atributi, koito s godinite imat tendencia da se stremiat kqm
zemiata! :((((( No ne sqm go probvala oshte!
A inache na men pone - mi stiga nay-prostiat stimulator - edin
gotin Man, po vwzmojnost - obichan ot men! I mi deystva
dostatqchno dqlgo! Bih kazala dori poveche ot dostatqchno :(((
J.
>
> J. /Are, Lily, day da mu prostim??? Toi se pokaya istinski, a i
> priatelchetata mu si zamqlchaha guzni - niama da ostavim da
> pogine edinstveniat smel mqj, ya!!!!?????/
>
E-e, ama mojeshe da ne mu davame vednaga oproshtenie - neka pqrvo se poterzae
malko! No pqk i az ne sqm chak tolkova krqvojadna - neka da ima mir i liubov!
Lily
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Jovo Vaporov
J.Va...@atrie.de
Kakvoto povikalo, takova se obadilo.
> >>
> >> J. /Are, Lily, day da mu prostim??? Toi se pokaya istinski, a i
> >> priatelchetata mu si zamqlchaha guzni - niama da ostavim da
> >> pogine edinstveniat smel mqj, ya!!!!?????/
> >>
> >
> >E-e, ama mojeshe da ne mu davame vednaga oproshtenie - neka pqrvo se
> poterzae
> >malko! No pqk i az ne sqm chak tolkova krqvojadna - neka da ima mir i
> liubov!
> >
> >Lily
> >
>
>
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>
> Mi kvo da kazem tia deto ot sedmica chetem CSB? Ako produljavate da
>vodite razgovor s tezi obnoski moje izobshto i do PARVENIUTA da ne stignem.
>Che to dori i mesec shte bude mnogo, a kamo li dva-tri... I klasicite shte
>si ostanat neprocheteni ;-((((
Blagodaria za cvetiata.
Pravilno li sqm razbrala, tova koeto iskate da kajete? Nie s J. sme na pqt
da
poparime jelanieto na niakoi mqj da spisva v s.c.b.? S nashite obnoski?? Vie
izglejda naistina ne ste cheli klasicite na s.c.b.
> Ami hrumvalo li vi e niakoga uvajaemi dami, che ima razlichni BG muje?
> Dokolkoto razbiram diskusiata se zavihri okolo tova kolko grubi,
>neetichni, nechuvstvitelni, samovlubeni, murzelivi, skapani,agresivni
>sreshtu
>vsichko (jensko) koeto shava, sus sviatkashti v tumnoto ochi, gotovi da
>skochat i iznasiliat purvata pojavila se babichka...
> Izobshto tumni i divi balkanski subekti. Ni se vodjat, ni se karat.
E, nee, ne beshe tochno tova.
> Uvajaemi dami, ako si mislite che tova e BG muja, to javno nikoga ne ste
>bili na podhodiashtoto mjasto v podhodiashtoto vreme...
Shte vi bqda blagodarna, ako mi dadete adresa i telefona na BG muja ili pone
me osvedomite za vremeto, kogato toi se namira na podhodiashtoto miasto. Ili
pone edna snimchica? A?
Razvqlnuvana
Lily
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> ... Pravilno li sqm razbrala, tova koeto iskate da kajete? Nie s J. sme na
pqt
>da
>poparime jelanieto na niakoi mqj da spisva v s.c.b.? S nashite obnoski??
Vie
>izglejda naistina ne ste cheli klasicite na s.c.b.
>
>Shte vi bqda blagodarna, ako mi dadete adresa i telefona na BG muja ili
pone
>me osvedomite za vremeto, kogato toi se namira na podhodiashtoto miasto.
Ili
>pone edna snimchica? A?
>
>Razvqlnuvana
>
> Lily
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Privet!
Javno naistina ne sum chel klasicite na s.c.b., no dori i da imam tazi
vuzmojnost struva mi se njama da mi dostavi nikakvo udovolstvie podobno
zanimanie. Moze bi njama da si struva gubeneto na vreme. Kakto i da e!
Po vuprosa za adresa i telefona na BG muja: Javno mnogo vi dopada da
suzdavate njakakuv subiratelen obraz na tozi tip. Samo che spored men
individualnostta e v osnovata na vseki otnas. Za dobro ili zlo vsichki nie
se razlichavame.Naj-mrazja kogato njakoj me priobshtava pod edin znamenatel
sus razni drugi hora koito dori i ne poznavam. Vse pak individualnostta e
tova, koeto na vseki otnas nikoj, nikoga i pri nikakvi obstojatelstva ne
moje da otneme.
Taka che molja, molja! Kakto i vie bihte reagirali (predpolagam), ako vi
kaja che vsichki jeni sa ednakvi, taka i kum nas ne podhojdajte tolkova
elementarno. Vupros na lichno dostojnstvo (i vuzpitanie) e vseki da durji na
tova, koeto go pravi razlichen.
Po vuprosa za adresa i telefona na BG muja - sorrrrrry predi mesec se
ojenih i semejstvoto vse pak e number one! No vseki den moje da namerite
tova koeto tursite. Tova zavisi ot ochite s koito gledate. Predi njakolko
godini imashe edin mnogo gotin i shantav film - "Princut na prosiacite" tam
imashe edna istoria za ricarja, kojto tursel sveshtenia graal. Njama da ja
razkazvam, za da ne vi otnema udovolstvieto da ja vidite sama.
Taka che ochite sa vajni, ochite!
Ostanaloto e mulchanie...
Shto se otnasja za otkazvaneto da spisvame v s.c.b. - njama opasnost!
Pri tolkova mnogo agresivni dami i mujete trjabva da razvivat sushto
kachestvo. Njama kak - konkurencia.
Uspeh! :))) M.
Mm, tova triabva da e spravedlivia mqjki gniav za koito govoreshe
vashia sqimennik Svilen Stoicheff. A kak shte komentirate postinga na
Crazy za BgMan? (Vijte otkqde zapochva tozi tread) i vqprosa za
lichnoto vi dostoinstvo? Nikoga ne sqm kazvala che vischki mqje sa
ednakvi. Sqjaliavam che ne razpolagam s tochni statisticheski danni po
otnoshenie na broia na iznsilvaniata na glava ot jenskoto naselenie, no
kogato sqm chela takiva danni, vinagi sqm bila potresena ot cifrite.
Tova e fakt, koito ne vijdam kak moje da nakqrni vasheto lichno
dostoinstvo, ako ne spadate v posochenata kategoria.
> Po vuprosa za adresa i telefona na BG muja - sorrrrrry predi mesec se
> ojenih i semejstvoto vse pak e number one!
Sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry!
>No vseki den moje da namerite
> tova koeto tursite.
Tova ne e viarno! Ne moga da ponasiam mqje, koito sa po-glupavi ot
mene, a poviarvaite, ostanalite sa tvqrde malko.
> Shto se otnasja za otkazvaneto da spisvame v s.c.b. - njama opasnost!
> Pri tolkova mnogo agresivni dami i mujete trjabva da razvivat sushto
> kachestvo. Njama kak - konkurencia.
>
Gospodi! DVE agresivni dami vi se vijdat MNOGO?
Triabva da vi uspokoia, az se ottegliam, no ne poradi konkurenciata, a
zashtoto zaminavam. Vrqshtam se v Rodinata! A tam ne znam zashto, no
imam chuvstvoto che niama da imam nikakvo jelanie i vreme da spisvam v
s.c.b. Moje pqk da vi iznenadam - nepriatno.
Lily
Chovekojadecut ot Miluoki ubivashe SAMO momcheta i muzhe. Glavno
homosexualisti.
: Nam shto ne izmisliat nikvi VIAGRI za jeni!! A vse za mqje!
: TcTcTc! Heehehe! Predstaviam si rezultata!
Ima takiva dosta otdavna. Zhenite obache obiknoveno ne se nuzhdajat ot
dopulnitelno stimulirane. Muzhete sme tezi koito sdavat bagazha purvi.
Nick
lilyb <li...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in article
<vXB02.10493$el4.19...@c01read02.service.talkway.com>...
> Ne moga da ponasiam mqje, koito sa po-glupavi ot
> mene, a poviarvaite, ostanalite sa tvqrde malko.
>
>
Az pak ne moga da ponasjam zheni, koito sa po-umni ot mene, no za shtastie
te sa tvarde malko.
> A kak shte komentirate postinga na Crazy za BgMan? (Vijte otkqde zapochva
> tozi tread) i vqprosa za lichnoto vi dostoinstvo?
Spored men - napisan sys simpatiya.
Pozdravi
Gentcho
Umnata jena znae ... che ne tryabva da e mnogo umna :-)
KY
> Az pak ne moga da ponasjam zheni, koito sa po-umni ot mene, no za shtastie
> te sa tvarde malko.
:)))
Prav si. Az puk ne ponasiam muzhe po-umni ot mene
Za goliamo suzhalenie te sa izvunredno malko.
Nai-umnite sa zhiveeli do 9-ti Septemvri:))
Tragicheska istina
Daniela
Katerina
On 6 Nov 1998, Lazarin K. Lazarov wrote:
>
>
> lilyb <li...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in article
> <vXB02.10493$el4.19...@c01read02.service.talkway.com>...
> > Ne moga da ponasiam mqje, koito sa po-glupavi ot
> > mene, a poviarvaite, ostanalite sa tvqrde malko.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Katerina I Stoykova-Klemer;951;temp6; <kis...@cs.rit.edu> wrote in article
> <Pine.GSO.4.04.981106...@buddy.cs.rit.edu>...
> >
> > Gn Lazarov, tova ne go razbiram,
> > nima obichate jena si zashtoto e po-glupava ot vas???
> >
>
>
>
> Donjakade i za tova :-). Molja, vizhte moja saseden post v tozi thread.
>
> LL
>
>
Da, mnogo mi beshe priatno da go procheta ;-)
Az puk suznatelno si turseh muj, koito da e po-umen ot men - i pri vseki
udoben sluchai mu go povtariam. Vinagi sum mislela che tova (che toi e
po-umen ot men) me postavia v po-dobra pozicia ot dwama ni ;-)
Katerina
Krasimir Yalamov <yal...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<36433DEF...@worldnet.att.net>...
> "Lazarin K. Lazarov" wrote:
> >
> > lilyb <li...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in article
> > <vXB02.10493$el4.19...@c01read02.service.talkway.com>...
> > > Ne moga da ponasiam mqje, koito sa po-glupavi ot
> > > mene, a poviarvaite, ostanalite sa tvqrde malko.
> > >
> > Az pak ne moga da ponasjam zheni, koito sa po-umni ot mene, no za
shtastie
> > te sa tvarde malko.
>
> Umnata jena znae ... che ne tryabva da e mnogo umna :-)
>
Hi KY,
Ima neshto mnogo verno v tova. Razbira se savsem ne trjabva da se talkuva,
che zhenata ne trjabva da izpolzva mozaka si i da se stremi kam
intelektualno vazvisjavane... Vaprosat e drug.
Umnite zheni plashat mazhete. Zashtoto, vse pak, igrata e mazhete da
"svaljat", a zhenite da ostavjat da badat svaljani...
No ima i neshto drugo.
Edna zhena mozhe da bade mnogo hubava, inteligentna, umna, mnogo nachetena
(taka si predstavjam g-tza Belova), i neshto malko da ne i dostiga, za da
bade istinska "dama".
Kakvo imam predvid. Istinskite zheni - dami (ladies) nikoga ne se oplakvat
ot lipsata na istinski mazhe - kavaleri (gentlemen). Zashtoto poslednite sa
tehen produkt. Damite sa edin prekrasen, sabiratelen zhenski obraz, kojto
satvorjava kavalerite i gentlemen-ite i te se starajat da olitzetvorjavat
vsjaka zhena s tozi obraz. Taka i vsjaka zhena trjabva da se starae da se
olitzetvorjava s nego.
Na istinskata dama trudno mogat da i dosazhdat kogato otide da izpie sama
pitieto si v edin bar. Zashtoto tja umee s edna osobena privetliva usmivka
i samo njakolko nezhno-privetlivi dumi da usmiri i distantzira i poslednia
prostak.
LL
> Chovekojadecut ot Miluoki ubivashe SAMO momcheta i muzhe. Glavno homosexualisti.
Aaaaa! A govorel li e ungarski s bqlgarski akcent???????
J. /Doseshtashta se!!!!/
In article <36433DEF...@worldnet.att.net>,
Krasimir Yalamov <yal...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> "Lazarin K. Lazarov" wrote:
> >
> > lilyb <li...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in article
> > <vXB02.10493$el4.19...@c01read02.service.talkway.com>...
> > > Ne moga da ponasiam mqje, koito sa po-glupavi ot
> > > mene, a poviarvaite, ostanalite sa tvqrde malko.
> > >
> > Az pak ne moga da ponasjam zheni, koito sa po-umni ot mene, no za shtastie
> > te sa tvarde malko.
>
> Umnata jena znae ... che ne tryabva da e mnogo umna :-)
>
> KY
Sam si si vinoven che im se vrqzvash na prikazkite. :-))
Zhenata e prikazlivo sqzdanie - ne edna tvoya prikazka sto shte kazhe. S
neya ne mozh da se merish.
S lyubov,
-= Ivan =-
Ne e taka. Vsichki statistiki sochat che procentovo mladiyat mqzh strada
nay-mnogo ot nasilie, bilo to ubiystva, poboi i prochee prestqpleniya
sreshtu lichnostta i imushtestvoto.
Ey, mnogo ste staromodni. Kvo losho ima v tova edna zhena da te svali.
Tova gornoto mozhe bi e vyarno za mladite, no kato naberesh malko godinki,
tiya vsichkite svalki malko skuchni ti stavat i idva edin moment v koyto
nyakoya sladurana teb te svalya a ti se kiprish i usukvash: "Mnogo Vi
haresvam gqrdite, draga, no ne mislite li che bi tryabvalo da si dadem edin
drug vreme - da se poopoznaem predi da napravim neshto za koeto posle shte
sqzhalyavame?"