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Tupi or not Tupi.... That is the pergunta.
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From: "Dreams they complicate my life....(R.E.M.) Al Iriberri, Univ. of Miami"
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Me acabo de dar conta que mandei meu 'signoff' para cs.colOmbia...
oops!!!!
Foi sem querer...de qualquer modo, desejo pra todos um feliz natal
etc...e um bom ano novo..se voces estao indo pra Brasil para comemorar
o ano novo, procure pre mim na praia de Copacobana (estarei vestindo
branco! :) )
Abraco,
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From: issi!tsu...@cs.utexas.edu (Jaime Tsuruta)
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Por aqui todo mundo enfeita as ruas
tem percurso de "luzes" para "turistas"
tem arvores de Natal em todos os lugares
tem cores representativas, verde e vermelho.
Papai Noel esta' em todos os lugares
fazem-se pedidos de varios tipos
colocam-se presentes debaixo das arvores
comemoram-se o Natal com almoco ou jantar.
Alguem se lembra de Jesus Cristo?
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From: pau...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paulo Roberto Ribeiro)
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Caros amigos,
Solicito o desligamento da Bras-Net por 20 dias, pois estarei fora durante
os feriados de fim de ano.
Obrigado
Paulo Ribeiro
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A quem possa interessar,
O departamendo de Engenharia Mecanica da UFMG em breve devera
abrir concurso nas areas:
Tecnologia Mecanica, Fabricacao, Metrologia
Dinamica de Maquinas, Elementos de Maquinas
O numero de vagas e o edital ainda estao sendo negociados com
a CPPD. O(s) professor(es) devera(ao) desenvolver nova area de con-
centracao (com vistas a pesquisa e pos-graduacao) e ensino de gra-
duacao (de imediato) e pos-graduacao, futuramente.
Envio maiores informacoes apos o Natal.
Interessados contactar:
Prof.Eduardo Bauzer Medeiros
Departamento de Engenharia Mecanica da UFMG
Campus da Pampulha
Av.Antonio Carlos 6627 -
31270 - Belo Horizonte - MG
Quem precisar de informacoes rapidas usar o meu correio eletronico,i.e,
CEAERO @ BRUFMG.
Feliz Natal,
Bauzer
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From: Jaime Tsuruta <tsu...@CS.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Merry X'mas
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Here's the list of "How to say Merry Christmas" in
====================================================================
English "Merry Christmas" ( Duh )
C printf("Merry Christmas\n");
Ada put("Merry Christmas");
in days of the lesser Moranadon about 50,000 B.C
"Happy Refrigerator Day" (from the T.V. show Dinosaurs)
Hawaii "Mele Kaleke maka"
Russian "schastlyvym Xristovym"
Polish "Wesolek Swiat" (ves-OH-wek SHVYUNT)
Hindi "Natal Mubarak"
Spanish "Feliz Navidad"
spanish (Chile) "Feliz Pascua"
Portuguese: "Feliz Natal"
German "Wolich Wienachten" (VOlik VIno'phlegm noise'ten)
French "joyeax Noel" (jo NOel)
Hebrew (couldn't find direct translation) "Happy Hanuka"
Chinese: "Sheng Dan Kwai Le"
Japanese "Kurisumasu Omedeto"
Pig Latin "erryMay istmasChray"
Ewe; (from the Volta region in Ghana)
"Blonya na wo"(to one person);
"Blonya na mi" (to > 1)
Response: "Ne tu mi daa"
<May it always come back to meet us>
American dialects Merry Christmas...
==============================================================
Canada: "Merry Christmas Ay"
New York: "Yo Give me all you money and you wont' get hurt"
California: "Yeah, like most triumphant fat dude day"
Oklahoma: "Huh??" (They still haven't figured this thing out yet...)
Texas: "Merry Christmas Ya'll"
Elvinese: (The native language of people from a small
area around Graceland TN, who still think
Elvis is alive)...
"Merry Christmas and thank ya very much"
PS: Quem escreveu isso nao sabe muito bem alemao.
Frohe Weinachten!
PS: Der die dass geschrieben hat kann kein Deutsch !!!
Jose
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Jose Camillo de Magalhaes <alias: bilo>
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From: IN%"JBOE...@ucs.indiana.edu" 22-DEC-1991 00:17:20.07
To: IN%"bras...@cs.columbia.edu"
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From: JBOE...@ucs.indiana.edu
Subject: memoria de musica...
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
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Pois depois de muito tempo sem aparecer na brasnet (afinal
a gente tambem tem que estudar pra merecer a tal da bolsa...) venho
passar pra voces uma cancao de natal cantada quando eu ainda estava
no ginasio (bota tempo nisso). Me lembro que era num disco 78 rota-
coes. Nao era CD, nao... O conjunto que tocava era um grupo de samba
que nao me recordo o nome mas tinha algo a ver com "melodia"...
E hoje, nesse primeiro natal com neve feito cartao de natal
que a gente mandava no Brasil (naquele baita calorao!), me faz mais
sentido relembrar.
Convido voces a ouvirem o meu 78 rotacoes:
(E' em marcha-rancho, bem cadenciado, tipo "mascara negra" do
grande Ze' Keti, carnaval de sessenta e la' vai pedrada...)
FELIZ NATAL!
Natal Brasileiro, sem nada estrangeiro,
calor de dezembro sem neve e sem frio.
Familia reunida, contente da vida,
que bom festejar o Natal a cantar:
"nao ha' o gente o nao..."
Natal tao bonito, natal tao azul,
luar do sertao e o cruzeiro do sul
para iluminar o Brasil por inteiro,
Eu quero esse ano ver Papai noel de verde amarelo
entrar altas horas e em muito chinelo botar
o orgulho de ser brasileiro.
Feliz Natal"
- Fiz meu concerto de mestrado com o coral da escola de
musica daqui e foi so' com musica brasileira de natal.
foi um barato ver a negadinha dos gringos cantarem em brasileiro
sem acento de gringo. Eu curti pacas e o coral mais ainda.
abracos e sentimentos bons pra quem e' de bem.
do Ze' Pedro
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Para o Luiz e demais interessados:
Existe uma agencia em New York, operada por brasileiros, que acredito ainda
ter passagens. O nome dela e' BACC. Ainda hoje consegui minha passagem,
saindo no dia 6 de janeiro de NY com destino a SP. Caso queira fazer contacto
tente falar com Carolina. O telefone e' 800-222-2746.
Boa Sorte...
Ricardo Brites
rm...@lamar.colostate.edu
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From: MAR...@ucs.indiana.edu
Subject: Floresta de sonetos brasileiros de Natal - 5/5
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
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*
FOR
AUMAE
STRELAD
EFULGORIM
E NSOQUEO S
GUI ARA,E MNO
ITEIN CER TA,AO
LUGAR-S A NTO.MIR
RATROUXER ABELTESAR
: INCENSO G ASPAR:M E
LCH IOROO URO QUEFU LGE
TANTO ERA MVALE SEM ONTES
,EERAOD E NSOBOSQ U E,EOCAM
POESPRAIA DOEMVERDE MANTO:EAO
L UAR,TOD O DEJASPE E AOSOLIN T
ENS O,SEG UIA MNAAS ADE CELES TEE
NCANT O.Q UANDO SEV IRAMS OBO MESMO
TETOQUE A BRIGARA A FAMILIA I MACULAD
A,BROTOU- LHESNAALM AAFLORDOE TEREOAFET
O .EOSREI S MAGOS,O O LHARHUM I LDEETER N
O, OSDIA DEM ASTIR ARA M,POE IRA ENADA ,*
DIANTE DAQUELE QUE ERA O VERBO ETERNO...
1899--1991
SONETO
*ALPHONSUS
D E
GUIMARAENS
S O N E T O
Alphonsus de Guimaraens
Fora uma estrela de fulgor imenso
Que os guiara, em noite incerta, ao Lugar-Santo...
Mirra trouxera Beltesar: incenso
Gaspar: Melchior o ouro que fulge tanto.
Eram vales e montes, e era o denso
Bosque, e o campo espraiado em verde manto:
E ao luar, todo de jaspe, e ao sol intenso,
Seguiam na asa de celeste encanto.
Quando se viram sob o mesmo teto
Que abrigara a Familia imaculada,
Brotou-lhes na Alma a Flor do etereo Afeto.
E os Reis Magos, o olhar humilde e terno,
Os Diademas tiraram, poeira e nada,
Diante dAquele que era o Verbo eterno...
(Soneto II, da "Segunda Dor", do livro
*Setenario das Dores de Nossa-Senhora*)
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From: "Carlos F. S. Castro" <FRED%BRUNB....@mvs.oac.ucla.edu>
Subject: RE: Brasil vs Tchecos
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Oi, Mauricio G. C. Resende,
O jogo Brasil x Tchecos deu 2x0 para o Brasil.
O primeiro gol foi de Erivelton no primeiro tempo. Ele limpou tres
da defesa da Tchecos e enfiou pra gol.
O segundo foi de Rai, no segundo tempo.
Eh isso ai.
Tchau e feliz natal e propero ano novo,
Fred.
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** Carlos F. S. Castro **
** Grupo de Inteligencia Artificial em Quimica **
** Laboratorio de Quimica Computacional **
** Depto. Quimica - Universidade de Brasilia **
** e-mail: FRED AT BRUNB **
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From: IN%"RAB...@OKRA.ASTR.UA.EDU" 22-DEC-1991 12:56:45.68
To: IN%"bras...@cs.columbia.edu"
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Subj: Musica...lembram-se?
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From: RAB...@OKRA.ASTR.UA.EDU (Carlos Roberto Rabaca)
Subject: Musica...lembram-se?
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Mais uma sessao nostalgia:
"Este ano, quero paz no meu corac,ao
Quem quizer ser meu amigo que me de~ a mao
O tempo passa...
E com ele caminhamos todos juntos sem parar
Nossos passos pelo chao vao ficar
Marcas do que se foi
Sonhos que vamos ter
Todo dia nasce
Novo em cada amanhecer!!!!"
Lembra???
*** FELIZ NATAL - UM SUPER 92 ***
Duilia & Carlos
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Carlos R. & Duilia F.M. Rabac,a
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The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
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From: IN%"vol...@acf9.NYU.EDU" 22-DEC-1991 14:00:24.74
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Subj: Minha alma canta...
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From: vol...@acf9.NYU.EDU (sergio bernardo volchan)
Subject: Minha alma canta...
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Caros Brasneteiros e Soc.Culture.Brazileiros,
FELIZ 1992! Boa Hibernacao! Que as teses terminem logo!
Peco desligamento temporario da Bras-Net, motivo: "Eu vou, eu vou, pra casa
agora eu vou!"
Ando esquecido do conceito de "praia", mas acho que um mes na cidade
maravilhosasera' suficiente pra rememorar a ideia.
Abracos e inte' o ano que vem!
Sergio
PS: Nao se deixem intimidar pelo retorno do insidioso orquestrador da furibun
da intentona anarco-sindicalista, a saber, maestro Boessio, com sua cantilena
de agitador separatista do auto-intitulado "movimento Farroupilha". Eu Rei es
tara' no futuro reino preparando o Triunfal Retorno da Monarquia!
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1) Parabens aos todos que votaram "YES" para cricacao deste news group.
2) Booo.. para os que votaram contra.
3) Brazil com z e' mais adequado neste contexto. O "Brasil" com s nunca
funciona direito, todos nos sabemos!
4) Este newsgroup deve aliviar o "traffic" do bras-net. Ultimamente o
volume dos mails atingiu niveis insuportaveis. Existencia do bras-net
e'
importante para bitnets ja que eles nao tem acesso ao news.
5) Feliz ano novo para todos e vamos torcer por um Brasil (com s)
com um poquinho mais de "ordem e progresso" em 1992.
-Singh T. Junior
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***** Caros colegas piadistas do EUA e resto do Mundo *****
Para os do Brasil, favor ver nota abaixo.
Felizmente para alguns, infelizmente para outros, voce podera fazer a
inscricao na lista de piadas simplismente enviando um comando "sub" para o
endereco abaixo.
O procedimento seria; Envie uma mensagem para:
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list...@pccvm.bitnet
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sub piadas <seu nome completo>
Nada mais.
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A mensagem sera distribuida aos assinantes.
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Qualquer outra informacao, problemas, comunique diretamente
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No corpo da mensagem:
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signoff piadas
Voce recebera uma confirmac,a~o quando se inscrever e quando se desligar da
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Se quizer receber as mensagens que envia a pia...@pccvm.bitnet:
* Costumeiramente a pessoa que envia as piadas nao as recebe em seu
computador, mas e distribuida entre todos os outros usuarios. (para que
receber uma coisa que voce mesmo enviou??) Se voce quizer tambem receber as
piadas que envia a rede, envie o comando:
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
no corpo da mensagem:
set piadas repro
****** Para assinante do Brasil *****
MAIL para:
mail...@brfapesp.bitnet
contendo a seguinte linha:
SUB PIADAS-L
(quando quiser se desinscrever basta repetir a operacao com UNSUB no
lugar de SUB
Vilson Sarto <vil...@brfapq.ANSP.BR> vil...@brfapesp.bitnet
System Analyst - .BR gateway vil...@brfapq.bitnet
Fundacao de Amparo a Pesquisa (11)831-3111 ext.247 vil...@fpsp.fapesp.br
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FAX (11)261-4167 Telex (11)82014 47550::vilson
ALGUMAS REGRINHAS...... E HISTORIA ........
Para quem nao houviu falar da historia.... Algumas piadas eram
passadas para a Bras-net, o qual o conteudo, muitas vezes nao agradava a 6
duzia de pessoas. Para evitar a reclamacao, ou por motivo de falta de tempo
em responder a algumas ridiculas oposicoes a melhor opcao foi a abertura desta
lista. Ela foi criada em meados de Janeiro de 1991. O espaco no computador
foi fornecido por gentileza do operador do computador da Portland Community
College em Oregon, USA. Algumas ocsioes, se o nome RUSSEL aparecer em algumas
mensagens, e por motivo de alguma manutencao no computador.
Peco encarecidamente que nao o incomodem pois tenho esta lista
de favor. Os problemas, favor direcionar a Wal...@rain.com ou para o
Vil...@brfapesp.bitnet para os usuarios do Brasil.
AS REGRINHAS.... NAO OBRIGADAS... MAS SERIA AGRADAVEL....
As dicussoes poderiam ser evitadas. Se a forca dos dedos, for maior que a
forca de vontade, favor incluir uma piada em sua mensagem.
Esse lista e aberta a todos. O conteudo, e o mais variado. Piadas racistas,
infames e de mal gosto, podem ser simplismente consideradas como de mau gosto,
comforme o nivel de pecepcao do leitor. Criticas, se possivel, manter para si
proprio, ou enviar diretamente ao originador da mensagem, que peco: "FAVOR
ASSINEM SUAS MENSAGENS". Todos os reply, vao diretamente a toda lista e nao a
pessoa que envia a mensagem. Isso foi feito pois essa lista E'/ERA para ser
livre de comentarios.
Bom.. divirtam-se ... acho que na vida de todos um pouco de humor faz bem a
saude, "SORRIA PARA A VIDA, QUE A VIDA E ALEGRIA, E TEMPO DE SORRIR SORRIA!"
Abracos,
Walter Morales (que pelo nome se nota que tenho um pouco de moral!)
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From: ca...@cs.bu.edu (carlos cunha)
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Aos colegas da bras-net desejo `a todos os meus votos de Feliz Natal
com os seus familiares (a quem puder e aos saudosos como eu) e que
o Ano Novo seja cheio de venturas e realizacoes.
O meu abraco `a todos,
Carlos Ribeiro
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Queria pedir meu deligamento de 23/dez ate 2/jan, ja que nao vou
estar aqui durante este periodo.Feliz Natal e um super 1992!!!!Denise
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From: Edval Santos <KZ...@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu>
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Antes de mais nada gostaria de desejar um Feliz Natal e
Prospero Ano Novo para todos. Gostaria tambem de lembra'-los que
o Natal e' a comemoracao do nascimento Daquale que mais influenciou
na historia do nosso planeta: JESUS DE NAZARETH, O CRISTO.
Quanto a presentes:
Se alguns de vos ainda nao haveis decidido sobre o presente de
natal,aqui vai algumas sugestoes de jogos para computador capaz de
satisfazer os mais diversos gostos.
Para os que sonham ser guerrilheiros:
Titulo: "Guerilla in Bolivia"
Resumo: O jogo e' inspirado nos diarios
de Che Guevara (a partir de 7 de
novembro de 1966). Tu e's o comandante
da guerilha.
Preco: $45.00
fabricante: Cases Computer Simulation
Londres, Inglaterra
Para os que sonham em terem um imperio:
Titulo: "Railroad Tycoon"
Resumo: Teu objetivo e' controlar o transporte
ferroviario, e assim determinar precos,
passando a obter grandes lucros.
Preco: ~$37.00
Para os ecologistas:
Titulo: "Lemmings"
Resumo: Teu objetivo e' salvar os lemos,
os quais (pelo menos no jogo) nao
demonstram qualquer sinal de
inteligencia.
Preco: $32.00
Fabricante: Psygnosis, EUA
Para os aventureiros:
Titulo: "Indiana Jones"
Resumo: Tu e's o proprio Indy, teu
objetivo; bem,depende do filme
no qual jogo foi baseado.
Preco: ~$ 36.00
Fabricante: Lucas Films, EUA
Para os programadores (em C):
Titulo: "CRobots"
Resumo: Tu escreves um programa em C,
para controlar o seu robot
durante a batalha.
Preco: Dominio Publico
Para os que nao gostam de jogos:
Existe a possibilidade deles tambem nao
gostarem de micros. De de presente um Joystick :-)
Abracos
Edval Santos
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Subject: O Ceara no "The Economist": o bom exemplo nordestino.
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Foi apresentada no "The Economist", Volume 321, Numero 7736, de 7 de
Dezembro de 1991, uma reportagem de 22 paginas sobre a atual crise
no Brasil, onde sao analisadas suas causas, os esforcos dos diversos
governos para conte-la etc, etc. Vale a pena conferir.
Transcrevo abaixo, no original (infelizmente, a traducao tomaria demais
do meu tempo, ja que o texto, mesmo somente desta parte, eh relativamente
longo) uma secao dedicada ao Ceara.
Acrescento que isto (ou seja, o relato de um bom governo no
meu pais) eh que me deixa orgulhoso de ser brasileiro, e em particular,
neste caso, de ser nordestino.
Segue a transcricao da secao:
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HOPE FROM THE NORTH-EAST
------------------------
Ceara is a small state on Brazil's north-eastern coast, one of the
country's poorest; its 6.5m people have incomes only about one third
of the national average. It was as badly governed as any place in
Brazil until 1986, when the state's three coronels failed to agree
on a candidate for governor. Through their deadlock a maverick slipped
into the governorship: Tasso Jereissati, then 36, a businessman.
Ever since, Ceara has enjoyed that greatest of Brazilian rarities:
good government.
The years of patronage had left Ceara a wreck. The roads were
pot-holed, school and hospitals were failing to pieces, babies were
dying at a faster rate than anywhere else in Brazil (95 per 1000 under
the age of one). The government payroll, however, was bursting. When
Mr. Jereissati took over, Ceara's total tax revenues covered only 70%
of payroll spending.
No wonder. Thousands of civil servants, all protected by powerful
politicians, were collecting more than one pay check; 7000 others
were in theory on secondment from oher jobs, though they never showed
up for their government work. Once, in a 48-hour period, thousands of
people had been added without competitive examination to the civil-
service rolls at the behest of local politicians.
Mr. Jerissati began by sacking people: 40.000 of Ceara'a 152.000 civil
servants. Or rather he fired that many pay checks; it is hard to tell
how many people they represented. The seconded workers were given 30
days to show up or lose their jobs. Government workers were made to punch
time-clocks morning, noon and night. The numer of government departments
was reduced by nine, 1.500 job categories were eliminated. All 250
journalists in the press secretariat, for example, were dismissed, in
spite of howls that "class warfare" was being waged against them. In
six months Mr. Jerissati reduced the government's current spending by 28%.
Government-owned companies were closed or sold. Politcal appointees were
removed from the water and electricity companies and from the state-
owned bank - which, almost uniquely in Brazil, is now solvent. Mr.
Jerissati also put professionals in charge of the tax administration,
which was then computerised. The tax-take rose. In Foraleza where a young
protege of Mr. Jerissati called Ciro Gomes was mayor, a reform in the
collection of the land tax raised the city's take by 3.600%. Mr. Gomes,
now 33, has been governor of Ceara itself since March this year. In each
of the first six months of his governorship - astonishingly in Brazil
in this year of collapsing tax revenues - Ceara's real tax take has gone up.
So has real spending - and its has been used for improved services.
Mr. Gomes says that 40% of the state spending a month will go to personel
(the lowest share in any state); other consumption will get 8%, debt service
10% (compared to neraly 40% for the federal government), incentives for
industrial investments 6%, and capital spending 36% - the highest share
of any government budget in Brazil. Most of the investment is going for
education: refurbishing 615 schools and buying desks, television and
other equipments for them. The rest is for sewers, dams, irrigation works
and roads. Because of effective control over bidding procedures (ie, there
aren't bribes and construction companies are not depended on, as they are
almost everywhere else in Brazil, to be reliable buyers of government
securities), roads are built in Ceara for $75.000-125.000 per km. This
is around one-quarter of the cost of road-building elsewhere in Brazil.
Not all public goods are this costly. The pride of Mr. Jerissati's
administration was a programme modelled on China's "barefoot-doctor"
scheme. It trained local people in the basics of baby care (how, for
example, to prevent deaths by dehydratation from diarrhoea); and it sent
each of them out as full-time government employees at the minimum wage
to call regurlarly on 250 poor households in the towns, or 100 in the
countryside. The programme, designed and run without foreign advice and
paid for entirely out of Ceara'a own budget, cut infant mortality in the
state by 32% in three years. UNICEFF calls it a model for poor-country
child health-care. An immunisation programme over the same period
turned Ceara from the least protected state in Brazil against polio and
the like to the third-best protected.
Mr. Gomes has made education his main target for further reform. The
average primary-school student is in class for only four hours a day;
40% of adults are illiterate. Mr. Gomes has raised teachers' salaries
by 35% in real terms this years. He plans to double them - but in
exchange wants the power to test teachers by public examination and sack
those who flunk. The teachers' union and Brazil's constitution are
frustating this aim, but he has high hopes. Overall, he thinks Ceara's
government needs a work-force of 85.000, down from the present 106.000.
This would be little more than half the number of those on the payroll
when Mr. Jerissati came on the scene.
THE ART OF THE POPULAR
When Mr. Jerissati's governorship began, his party had 30 of the 46
seats in the state legislature. By the end of his term he had only six.
The rest had defected, furious over the patronage he had deprived
them of. Seasoned politicians told him he would never be elected to
anything in Ceara again.
In 1990, when his successor was being elected, Mr. Jerissati had an
opinion-poll approval rating of 70% in Ceara; he was the most popular
governor in Brazil at the end of his term. Ceara was the only state
that year where the incumbent party elected a governor on the first round
of voting. In winning the governorship last year, Mr. Gomes got a
majority in every one of Fortaleza's 3.700 polling places - from the
pleasant leafy seaside neighbourhoods to the miserable "favelas".
The lesson Mr. Jerissati draws from all this is that reform is not
only popular - "because the mass of poor people together see things
better that the elites" - but possible. To overcome special-interest
opposition in the legislature, you need either political support or
popularity. He has no support (his majority in the legislature evaporate
quickly), but his popularity in the state at large carried the programme
through anyway. Lastly, "reform is simple but it isn't easy". It involves
constantly saying no to people - usually, in a place as small as Ceara,
the people you socialise with. Going to club and parties was uncomfortable
for Mr. Jerissati for a couple of years, because so many people he wouls
ran across were people he had sacked. A reformist politician needs to
betray the political class.
Other Brazilian states are starting to distinguish themselves by good
administration: Parane and Santa Catarina, well-off farming states in the
south; even the new government in Sao Paulo. None of these examples
offers a blueprint for the remaking of Brazil. But Ceara does show what
good government consists of, and how spectacular its effects can be.
What would happen to the economy if Brazil as a whole started
enjoying it?
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Para os que ate aqui chegaram, meus votos de
Feliz Natal e um melhor Ano Novo.
Andre Campos Nogueira
The University of Texas at Austin
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From: NASSER Fernando Elyas Nobrega <nas...@ecf.toronto.edu>
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Pergunte para a Liz (Elizabeth Casanova) na
Metro World Travel Service em Washington DC
Ela e' brasileira e talvez possa te ajudar. Pergunte sobre um
ticket que so' da direito a 15 dias mas e' mais barato.
Pergunte tambem sobre a tarifa Eagle saindo de Toronto da Canadian Airlines.
As vezes sai mais barato vir pegar o aviao aqui se conseguir esta tarifa.
Tel: 1-202-296-7874
Boa sorte
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Caro colega
Com o fim do ano eu e minha familia estaremos
fora de Columbus por 10 dias. venho portanto
pedir meu desligamento tempora'rio da bras-net.
Atenciosamente
Antonio Costa.
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A mensagem e' a seguinte:
Se ainda nao e' natal, FELIZ NATAL !
Se o natal ja' foi, FELIZ 1992 !
O importante e' que eu desejo a VOCE toda felicidade
que VOCE merece !
Um grande abraco,
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From: IN%"ARE...@IF1.UFRGS.BR" "Jeferson J. Arenzon IF-UFRGS" 23-DEC-1991 08:52:39.12
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From: "Jeferson J. Arenzon IF-UFRGS" <ARE...@IF1.UFRGS.BR>
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Oi pessoal,
Alguem conhece algum foro de discussao sobre fractais, agregados,
etc? Por favor, respondam para o meu e-mail: ARE...@IF1.UFRGS.BR
Obrigado,
Jeferson
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From: vol...@acf9.NYU.EDU (sergio bernardo volchan)
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Peco pra me desligarem temporariamente da bras-net
Agradecido,
Sergio
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> Prezados colegas,
> peco meu desligamento da Bras-net, pois o computador daqui nao estara
> disponivel por algum tempo. Como nao sei ainda quando poderei usa-lo
> novamente, na ocasiao voltarei a solicitar minha inscricao.
> Muito obrigado
> Um abraco e Feliz Natal para todos
> Nelson
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> Antonio Nelson Rodrigues da Silva
> University of Wisconsin-Madison
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From: IN%"we...@ohm.york.ac.uk" "Weber Martins" 20-DEC-1991 23:16:19.83
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Queridos companheiros,
Aproveitando a ocasiao do Natal, transcrevo (de memoria,
em outras palavras, perdoem os possiveis erros...(~8) a
letra da cancao natalina mais linda... Que saudade daque-
le 'clip' da Rede Globo... (~8
Quero ver voce nao chorar
Nao olhar p'ra tras
Nem se arrepender do que faz
Quero ver o amor crescer
E se a dor nascer
Voce resistir e sorrir
Se voce pode ser assim
Tao enorme assim
Eu vou ser
Que o Natal existe
Que ninguem e' triste
Que no mundo ha' sempre o amor
Um Natal, um feliz Natal
Muito amor e paz p'ra voce
P'ra v o c e
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"A Merry merry Christmas
And Happy New Year
...
Without any fear..."
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Abracos fraternais
Weber
Depto. de Eletronica e Sistemas
Department of Electronics Universidade Federal de Goias
University of York Escola de Engenharia, Campus I
York England YO1 5DD Praca Universitaria, s/n
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Better learn h*w to kneel (*n y*ur knees, b*y)" (U2)
. . . .
Weber Martins ..... . . . .........................
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Here, at Cornell, we just get header!!!!
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From: IN%"basilio%Zardoz.Ca...@Deimos.Caltech.Edu" 21-DEC-1991 16:16:20.03
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O' meu MENGAO,
Eu gosto de voce.
Quero cantar ao mundo inteiro
A alegria de ser rubro-negro.
Conte comigo MENGAO,
Acima de tudo rubro-negro.
Conte comigo MENGAO,
Acima de tudo rubro-negro.
Um feliz Natal e otimo Ano Novo a todos, rubro-negros ou nao.
Basilio.
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From: WILSON ROBERTO AFONSO <WIL...@VORTEX.UFRGS.BR>
Subject: Campeonato Gaucho - Final
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Resultado do ultimo Gre-Nal, dia 15 (caso ainda nao tenha saido):
Inter 0x0 Gremio
Com isso, o Inter e' (depois de 7 anos) campeao gaucho. Podem tirar o mofo
das camisas e bandeiras, colorados!
Estive fora da cidade por alguns dias, por isso a noticia nao foi antes.
Saudacoes tricolores, rumo ao hepta em 1998.
-Wilson (wil...@vortex.ufrgs.br)
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From: Jeong-Gyun Shin <sh...@udel.edu>
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Perdao se eu aumento trafego desnecessariamente, porem uma pergunta sobre
soc.culture.brazil newsgroup. Existe soc.culture.brazil? O administrador
da systema donde estou diz me que trafego de soc.culture.brazil e' zero,
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Jeong-Gyun Shin
> O administrador
>da systema donde estou diz me que trafego de soc.culture.brazil e' zero,
Nada. Ha' trafego.
Carlos Barichello
University of Minnesota
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Reproduzco un mensaje que lei hoy:
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Article: 22057 of soc.culture.jewish
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Subject: Re: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Message-ID: <11...@jjmhome.UUCP>
Date: 24 Dec 91 23:48:10 GMT
References: <z9012...@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>
<1991Dec20.2...@unixg.ubc.ca>
Followup-To: soc.culture.europe
Organization: JJ Software, Westboro, MA
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I noticed a posting of greetings in Xmess, but I think that one is full of
errors. Please check the following and even better, contribute with your
native tongue. If you don't celebrate Christmas, just say happy new year
in the languages you know. Just add your line without sending the whole
list.
Arabic: I'd Miilad said oua Sana saida
Armenian: Shenoraavor Nor Dari yev Pari Gaghand
Azeri: Tezze Iliniz Yahsi Olsun
Basque: Zorionstsu Eguberri. Zoriontsu Urte Berri On
Breton: Nedeleg laouen na bloavezh mat
Bulgarian: Chestita Koleda i vesela Nova Godina
Cantonese: Seng dahn fai lok, sahn neen jeum boe
Cornish: Nadelik looan na looan blethen noweth
Czech: Prejeme Vam Vesele Vanoce a stastny Novy Rok
Danish: God jul og godt nytaar
Dutch: Prettige kerstdagen en een voorspoedig nieuwjaar
English: Merry christmas and a happy new year
Finnish: Hyva"a" joulua ja onnellista uutta vuotta
French: Joyeux Noel et meilleurs voeux pour l'annee 19..
German: Frohe Weihnachten und ein gutes neues Jahr
Hebrew: Hag hamoledet hasameah
Hungarian: Kellemes Kara'csonyi U~nnepeket e's Boldog Uje'vet
Indonesian: Selamat hari natal dan tahun baru
Japanese: Mari kurisumasu to akemashite omedetou gozaimasu
Lowland Scots: Biddin' ye a blythe yule tide
Mandarin: Sheun dahn kuai le, seeng nian lou ee
Polish: Wesolych Swiat Bozego Narodzenia i Weslylego Nowego Roku
Portuguese: Feliz Natal, e um prospero Ano novo
Scots Gaelic: Nollaig chridheil agus bliadhna mhath u\r
Swedish: God Jul och Ett Gott Nytt A\{o}r
Tamil: Naththar, Puththandu Valthukkal
Turkish: Mutlu noeller ve yeni yillar
Vietnamese: Chu'c mu'`ng gia'ng sinh, chu'c mu'`ng na~m mo~i'.
Yoruba: E ku Odun Keresimesi, E Ku Iyedun. Odun a Yabo o
Have a cool Yule, y' all!
a\{o} -> a with circle
a" -> a with umlaut
`o -> o with accent grave
Please correct any errors in my attempt to represent Vietnamese. I do not
know the conventions used on usenet in writing Vietnamese.
I am guessing about the Hebrew phrase.
Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami
.....
--------
Juan Antonio Rodriguez-Sero | Those who have long enjoyed
School of Oceanography | such privileges as we enjoy
University of Washington, WB-10 | forget in time that
Seattle, WA 98195 | men have died to win them.
ja...@ocean.washington.edu |
(206) 543 - 7003 (work) | Franklin D. Roosevelt
From: IN%"MGSI...@utkvx.utk.edu" "Marcelo Godoy Simoes - Elec. Eng. UT" 29-DEC-1991 11:27:30.27
To: IN%"bras...@cs.columbia.edu"
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From: "Marcelo Godoy Simoes - Elec. Eng. UT" <MGSI...@utkvx.utk.edu>
Subject: Procurando o Danilo
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
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Pessoal;
Ja' li varias mensagens do Danilo na bras-net, mas nao tenho o E-mail
dele. Nao me lembro do sobrenome, mas ele faz pos-graduacao nos EUA
em jornalismo (ou alguma area em comunicacoes). Gostaria de entrar
em contato diretamente com ele, se alguem puder ajudar agradeco!
Marcelo Godoy
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Ola pessoal,
Desde a criacao da soc.culture.brazil, tenho visto que muitas
noticias chegam repetidas nos 2 meios.
Gostaria de propor uma organizacao nisso para tornar a coisa mais
eficiente:
1) Nem todos que podem receber a bras-net (e-mail) tem a
facilidade de poder ler a soc.culture.brazil (news). Exemplo:
todo o pessoal da bitnet.
2) Porem TODOS que leem a soc.culture.brazil (news) podem
receber tambem a bras-net (e-mail).
3) Atualmente recebe-se na soc.culture.brazil uma coletanea
de tudo o que se leh na bras-net.
4) Essa solucao nao me parece ideal pois nao dah ao pessoal da
bras-net a oportunidade de ler o que se passa na soc.culture.brazil.
5) Minha proposta eh de se inverter a coisa. Diariamente
alguem passaria uma copia de tudo que se passa na
soc.culture.brazil para a bras-net.
6) Isso poderia ser executado por alguem, em comum acordo,
para nao haver repeticao, bastando, por exemplo, colocar esse
comando num "forward alias".
Abracos a todos
Jose
From: IN%"sh...@udel.edu" "Jeong-Gyun Shin" 29-DEC-1991 12:50:35.03
To: IN%"bras...@cs.columbia.edu"
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From: Jeong-Gyun Shin <sh...@udel.edu>
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Muito obrigado aos todos que me responderam a respeito do status
do soc.culture.brazil.
Jeong-gyun Shin
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From: "Walter T. Morales" <wal...@m2xenix.psg.com>
Subject: Fractal lista
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Arguem no BR(Z)il pediu para achar listas sobre FRACTAL, eu enviei e
nao recebi um reply, por isso tenho que enviar isso a todos para
garantir que chega ao dono...
Abracso e tenham um Bao ano novo.
Walter
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From: IN%"AHA...@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU" 29-DEC-1991 22:43:17.20
To: IN%"bras...@cs.columbia.edu"
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Para nossos filhos relembrarem quando assumirem a rede:
RUGRATS, passa na televisao nortemericana Nickelodeon, a cabo, todos os
domingos as sete da noite (costa este). E' concorre com os Trapalhoes...
Para uma segunda feira mais feliz.
Emilio
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From: Fernando <PROIETTI%JHU...@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu>
Subject: Passagems p/ o Brasil
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
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Alguem poderia enviar p/ o meu e-mail
(PROIETTI@JHUHYG) a(s) menssagems com
precos de passagems aereas p/ o Brasil ?
Antecipadamente agradeco a(s) alma(s)
caridosa(s).
Um abraco, Fernando
From: IN%"MUEL...@AC.DAL.CA" "Jose H. Muelbert, Dept. of Oceanography" 30-DEC-1991 14:10:57.79
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From: "Jose H. Muelbert, Dept. of Oceanography" <MUEL...@AC.DAL.CA>
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>From: ta...@isuvax.iastate.edu
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Por que e' que eu recebo msg com o Subj: From Brasnet e o corpo vazio?
Por alguma razao estas msg sao enviadas por voce
(ta...@isuvax.iastate.edu). Ha alguma coisa errada com meu sistema?
Why do I get these msg with the Subject: From Brasnet, and no lines on
them? The msg appear to be sent by you (ta...@isuvax.iastate.edu). Is
there anything wrong with our system?
Um abraco,
Zeca.
From: IN%"clem...@apollo.com" 30-DEC-1991 14:45:51.41
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Por favor, queria pedir meu desligamento da rede.
Um prospero Ano novo,
Jackie
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Alo Pessoal,
Perdao se eu aumento trafego desnecessariamente,porem uma pergunta sobre
soc.culture.brazil newsgroup. Existe soc.culture.brazil? O administrador
da systema donde estou diz me que trafego de soc.culture.brazil e' zero,
porem eu queria verificar isso com alguem da bras-net que tambem esteja
subescrevendo s.c.brazil.Favor qualquer pessoa mandar-me uma confirmacao
sobre s.c.brazil, com agradecimentos antecipados.
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Alo Pessoal,
Perdao se eu aumento trafego desnecessariamente,porem uma pergunta sobre
soc.culture.brazil newsgroup. Existe soc.culture.brazil? O administrador
da systema donde estou diz me que trafego de soc.culture.brazil e' zero,
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sobre s.c.brazil, com agradecimentos antecipados.
Existe sim e o trafego atual eh maior que o da bras-net, pois inclui
tudo o que se passa nela e mais.
Abracos
jose
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No Brasil ja e 1992!
Feliz Ano Novo a todos voces.
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A CAPES comunica que os novos valores de bolsas no pais, vigentes
a partir de 01 de dezembro, sao os seguintes:
PET 90.400,00
ESPECIALIZACAO 180.800,00
MESTRADO 2271.200,00
DOUTORADO 432.000,00
DEDICACAO ACADEMICA 954.800,00
POS-DOUTORADO 954.800.00
From: IN%"C0...@C53000.PETROBRAS.ANRJ.BR" "Mario A. R. Dantas _ PETROBRAS/DEPRO - TEL .(021) 5344592" 2-JAN-1992 14:53:22.93
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At: GIT,
preciso de entrar em contacto com o pessoal de Computer Science da
Georgia Intitute of Technology.
Agradeco a ajuda,
Mario.
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From: hernani chaves <HAFCL%BRLNCC...@mvs.oac.ucla.edu>
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pedindo desculpas pelo atraz, vai um resumo do ultimo Jornal que recebi.
vai, tambem, os votos de um 1992 melhor para todsos nos e que
a saida de todos tnha sido fantastica.
um grande abraco para todos.
hernani
A TODOS OS COLEGAS E FAMILIARES UM
1992 MELHOR DO QUE SE ESPERA E PINTAM !!!!!
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ps: notem que a assinatura para o exterior esta' mais barata US$ 10.00
JORNAL CIENCIA HOJE 6 DEZ 91
EDITORIAL:
DESAFIOS "A SBPC - O conselho da SBPC reune-se em 17/12 em Brasilia.
Em pauta a crise da ciencia no BRASIL
Principais assuntos:
1-COLLOR QUER O CONSELHO DE C&T REFORCADO COORDENANDO C&T DE TODOS OS
MINISTERIOS
verbas para Bolsas pode ganhar mais 20% para auxilio pesquisa
O governo liberou cr$ 13 bi para UFs e os 3,bi de contrapartida ao
emprestimo do BID ao PADCT. Houve a primeira audiencia de Collor com
representantes da comunidade cientifica, durando uma hora. Foi entre-
gue carta e Collor afirmou: "O conhecimento e' mais importante que o
capital".
2 -
2 - DIMINUI RESPEITO AA CONSTITUICAO por L.F.S.Candiota
Em seu artigo, Luiz Fernando cria o "indice de respeito aa constitui-
cao, no que disz respeitop aas verbas da FAPERJ e da UERJ e mostra qu
esse respeito vem caindo nos anos de 90 e 91
3- VELLOSO: "OPCAO PREFERENCIAL PELOS POBRES"
"Garantir cidadania do pobre, acabar com cidadaos de 2a. classe"
Joao Paulo Reis Velloso, fez um balanco do IV Forum Nacional,
no BNDES, e afirma que o problema do Brasil
nao e' sair da recessao, reduzindo a inflacao, mas super a sindrome
da "decada perdida, descobrindo as razoes por que aind nao
saiu da crise
4 - Bahia inova eleicao de reitor
Seis apresentam programa comum e sao os mias votados
Quatro anos depois de preterida pelo governo, Elliasne Azevedo,
vice-presidente da SBPC, voltou a ser a mais votada. Seis candida-
tos apresentaram um programa comum e foram os mais votados dos
13 inscritos.
e mais
outros artigos
Poucas & boas
Breves
Publicacoes recebidas
Vai acontecer:
Eventos
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Pos-Graduacao
Bolsas
Divulgacao cient'ifica
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TRES BOAS RAZOES PARA VOCE ASSINAR
O JORNAL DA CIENCIA HOJE
1) A luta pelo desenvolvim,ento cientifico e tecnologico no Brasil esta
cada vez mais dificil e voce, que e' do ramo, precisa se manter
bem informado a respeito.
2) O JCH, da SBPC, e' o que mais noticia e debate esta luta.
3) Se voce nao apoiar este jornal, quem vai apoiar?
Para assinar, mande um cheque nominal aa SBPC, no valor de
CR$ 12.000,00* (NO EXTERIOR US$ 50.00)
para receber 24 exemplares do seu jornal
*ate' 15 de novembro
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ENDERECO SBPC NO RIO (TB. REDACAO CIENCIA HOJE E JORNAL CIENCIA HOJE)
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SINOPSE DE IMPRENSA
1992
03 DE JANEIRO
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PANORAMA DA IMPRENSA NESTA 6a. FEIRA
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P O L I T I C A
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* ENTENDIMENTO * O Presidente Collor e o Ministro Jarbas Passarinho
(Justica) tracaram uma estrategia politica para evitar derrotas em
votacoes no Congresso este ano.
O Presidente recomendara' aos integrantes do Executivo um melhor
tratamento aos parlamentares, incluindo obras em seus redutos eleitorais.
O Ministro Passarinho garante, entretanto, que a pratica de troca de
cargos por apoio politico e' uma hipotese afastada.
* PAGAMENTO * Um acordo entre o Juiz Antonio Castro Aguiar, da 11a.
Vara de Justica Federal, e a Superintendencia regional do INSS marcou para
terca-feira, dia 7, o pagamento simultaneo do salario de dezembro mais o
reajuste de 147% a todos os aposentados do Rio de Janeiro.
Em Sao Paulo, o titular da 19a. Vara de Justica Federal, Juiz Paulo
Theotonio Costa, adiou para o dia 17 o prazo maximo concedido ao INSS para
o pagamento do reajuste.
Em Brasilia, o advogado-geral da Uniao, Arthur Castilho Neto, afirmou que
o Governo nao pagara' os 147%, por nao ter dinheiro.
* VERBAS * Apesar de alegar falta de verbas para pagar o reajuste de
147% aos aposentados, o INSS gastou aproximadamente Cr! 600 milhoes em
campanha de publicidade que diz que o Governo Collor "devolveu a dignidade
aos aposentados".
O dinheiro gasto na campanha e' apenas parte da dotacao orcamentaria de
Cr! 2,9 bilhoes prevista para publicidade do INSS em 1991 - verba
suficiente para pagar o reajuste de 147% em dezembro a 50 mil aposentados
que recebem salario minimo (FOLHA DE SP).
* SHELL * A Prefeitura de Sao Paulo obteve aprovacao da Camara para o
contrato com a Shell em que troca as obras feitas no autodromo de
Interlagos pela instalacao de postos em areas municipais. A obra em
Interlagos sera' paga com "concessao" de terrenos, em vez de "permissao"
de uso.
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E C O N O M I A
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* EM ALTA * No primeiro dia util do ano, as bolsas de valores
registraram indices de lucratividade de ate' 12,2% e negocios de Cr! 108,8
bilhoes, propiciados, principalmente, por investidores estrangeiros.
Segundo calculos de tecnicos da Bolsa do Rio, estes aplicadores ja'
respondem por 40% das transacoes do mercado acionario do Pais.
* CRISE * A Perdigao, segunda empresa brasileira do setor de alimentos
congelados, demitiu ontem 600 funcionarios e anunciou o fechamento de sua
fabrica em Utinga, no municipio paulista de Santo Andre'.
* PREVISAO * Os precos dos combustiveis deverao ser reajustados em
cerca de 20% ate' a proxima quarta-feira. De acordo com O GLOBO, a
Petrobras reclama defasagem de 50%, acumulada no Governo Collor.
* PRECO NOVO * As novas listas de precos das industrias estao chegando
ao varejo com aumentos de ate' 60% sobre as praticadas em dezembro,
informa a FOLHA DE SP. As maiores altas sao para os setores de
eletrodomesticos, alimentos e higiene e limpeza.
A GAZETA MERCANTIL afirma o contrario: que as listas de precos das
industrias contem reajustes menores (em media de 25%) que os pleiteados em
dezembro (em relacao 'a novembro).
Lourival Kicula, coordenador da area de eletrodomesticos da Abinee, disse
'a FOLHA que "e' necessario reajustar os precos no minimo em 40% para
fazer frente aos aumentos dos insumos".
* DIVISAS * Pela primeira vez desde 1983, a balanca cambial financeira
(entradas menos remessas de capital via mercado de cambio) registrou
superavit com saldo positivo de US! 77,6 milhoes em dezembro.
Os contratos de cambio para exportacao superaram em US! 2,148 bilhoes o
volume de cambio relativo 'as exportacoes.
* RAIO-X * O jornal britanico FINANCIAL TIMES traz uma analise da
economia brasileira e afirma que o Brasil esta' ficando para tras em
relacao aos demais paises latino-americanos.
Segundo o jornal, o Pais terminou 1991 com crescimento economico de 0,5% e
previsao de cresciemtno zero para 1992. No ano passado, a taxa de
crescimento de Venezuela, Chile, Mexico e Argentina ficou na media dos 5%.
O salario-minimo, continua o texto, de menos de US! 40 por mes, e' menor
que o da Bolivia.
* POLITICA * A GAZETA MERCANTIL informa que na proxima semana,
empresarios estarao reunidos para discutir a redefinicao das tarifas de
importacao de bens de informatica e a reestruturacao da estrategia de
importacao para segmentos como de placas montadas para computadores, pecas
e componentes microeletronicos.
Estara' em pauta a "incoerencia vigente" em que a taxa para a importacao
de partes e pecas microeletronicas esta' fixada em 40% e as placas, ja'
inteiramente montadas, em 50%.
(GAZETA MERCANTIL, pag. 10).
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Tom,
Thanks for your input. I will try to do just that by my following
message. Some of the other comments made me really wonder if I were
welcome or not. Anyway, here goes!
The University of Iowa and Grinnell College have received a Ford
Foundation grant for a study group designed to bring new perspectives
to development by focusing on gender issues in the social, economic,
and political life of developing nations (I hate this term!). This
is designed to help bridge the institutional gulf in undergraduate
education at both institutions in gender and internationl development.
I am interested in articles and/or books that give a good introductory
overview to both Women in Development and women's roles/experience in
developing countries. And I am also interested in articles and/or
books that specifically deal with issues of reproduction, migration,
urganization, women's work, structural adjustment, media, culture,
democratization, agriculture, and the environment at they affect
women. Please send these to me personally at:
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O The University of Iowa voice: (319) 337-5552 O
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What you're doing is great and I enjoy reading the Brasnet messages.
The only negative aspect of these messages is the long, imbedded
routing headers. If you could remove these messages ("Received by
{hostname}", etc.) there would be time saved in the actual sending of
the news (smaller files) and much time saved in reading the actual
messages because they are often much smaller than the headers.
But it could be even more valuable if you made Brasnet a moderated
newsgroup. In this way, you could package the messages (as they are),
strip down the long routing headers and put Brasnet into its own
group, possibly under soc.culture.brazil, or possibly in a different
branch of the hierarchy tree.
The bad news is that it would be more work for you. I know you have
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if you're up to it...
Muito obrigado,
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From: ceb...@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu (Andre C Nogueira)
Subject: A respeito de reserva de mercado.
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Segue a copia de um artigo publicado no jornal local "Austin American
Statement," que deve ter circulado, tambem, nacionalmente, ja que o
autor escreve regularmente para o "Chicago Tribune."
Por restricoes de tempo disponivel, o artigo segue em ingles:
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GENERAL MOTORS TOOK BAD TURN ONE CAR AT A TIME
by Mike Royko / Royko writes for "The Chicago Tribune"
On the one hand, we have to feel for the tens of thousands of General
Motors workers who are waiting for the other shoe to drop. For the
families that will be wondering where the next paycheck will come from.
On the other hand, I think back to when GM and I parted company for good.
And I wonder how many others are like me.
It was 31 years ago and I was buying my first new car. Until then, I had
bought nothing but used cars. Get a cheap beater, run it until it falls
apart, and then find another one. But I had finaly landed a job on a good
newspaper and did some moonlighting on weekends, so it was time to start
the process.
The process in those days and before was to buy an inexpensive model.
Something like a Chevy. Then, if your income grew, you might later move
up to something like a Buick. The Century, if you wanted something to
peel away from a light, or the Roadmaster, if you wanted the feel of a
road yacht.
And there was the ultimate status symbol: the Caddy. Get behind the wheel,
sink down into the plushness, stick a cigar in your mouth, pull into
traffic, and you were telling the world you had it, baby, and you were
flaunting it.
I was at the first step. So I carefully and prudently picked out a two-door
Chevy with a stick shift and a 6-cylinder engine. That was when a
6-cylinder was the mark of the real tighwad, since gas was so cheap.
It had few accessories. A radio, white-walls, but no power anything. It
was, however, new. And after 24 monthly payments, it would be mine.
A month after I bought it, I went on a vacation to Door County, Wis.
Halfway there, the car did something strange. The gearshift made noise,
something like "boing?" and jumped from third gear into neutral.
I was traveling at highway speeds at the time, so the leaping stick shift
was unerving. Had it happened at the wrong moment, it could have got us
killed. I slammed it back into third. But a few miles later, it did
the same thing. By the end of the vacation, I was driving with one hand
while holding the quivering stick shift in third. It was like an
arm-wrestling match.
When I told the dealer's service department about it, they said they'd
take care of the problem. A few days later, I had the car back. The next time
I was on a highway, it did the same thing.
After several more trips to the dealer, with the same results, I made what
I thought was a reasonable suggestion. Since it was obvious that they
could not solve the problem. I would return the car and they could give me a
new car that didn't have a demented transmission.
They thought I was a very funny guy and that was a funny idea. So they told
me that it was simply a matter of time before they found and corrected the
little glitch that made it impossible for me to drive more than 35 mph
without risking death.
They didn't. And I finally gave up and traded the car in on something else.
It was not a GM product. So the process ended right there. No upward mobility
to a Buick or Olds or Caddy.
Not that it mattered to GM. I was one low-budget guy who bought one
stripped-down model of their cheapest car. They were GM, king of the
mountain, the biggest carmarker in the world, one of the great corporations
of all time. What did the loss of a stiff like me matter?
But now, it turns out, it did matter. I wasn't the only one stuck with a
lemon that year or in later years. Once I began writing a regular column,
I'd hear from people who had similar experiences. They would send me stacks
of frustrasting correspondence they had with GM and other carmakers.
And there was a sameness to the stories. The car was a clunker, the dealer
couldn't make good, and somebody in Detroit would send a letter offering
little more than sympathy, and not much of that.
And it has finally caught up with GM. It can blame tha Japanese and the
Germans for horning in on their market; or blame Washington for not
protrecting them from the foreign invaders; or the Baby Boom generation
for not having American brand loyalty. But GM did it to itslef.
If it had not been stiffing customers and had made quality products,
there wouldn't have been much of a Japanese and European car invasion.
But because of its arrogance and stupidity, GM opened the gates and
made itself the great shrinking giant.
The pity is that those at fault, the top execituves who made all the wrong
decisions, aren't going to feel the pain. They've cashed in their stock
options, invested their hefty year-end bonuses, and stashed their bundles.
They won't be in the unemployment lines with the assembly line crowd and
the local managers.
But I'm not one to hold a grudge. Maybe someday I'll buy a GM car again.
Sure I will. The day they find my old Chevy and replace the transmission.
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Para o bom entendedor ...
Andre Campos Nogueira
The University of Texas at Austin
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Sou leitor de ambos, a BRASNET e o soc.culture.brazil. Uma
coisa que eu tenho notado e que todas, ou quase todas as noticias
que aparecem na BRASNET sao repetidas no soc.culture.brazil.
Apesar de ser facil passar por cima dos artigos que ja li na
BRASNET, se tudo for repetido no soc.culture.brazil, qual e a
funcao da BRASNET, ou qual a funcao do newsgroup, desde que ha
pouca coisa alem das mensagens que aparecem na BRASNET? A nao ser
que nem todos tenham acesso a ambos os grupos, se estes grupos nao
servirem funcoes distintas eu tenho duvidas sobre a necessidade de
todos os dois existirem.
Estou interessado em saber o que voces pensam,
abracos,
Guilherme Oliveira
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> BRASNET, se tudo for repetido no soc.culture.brazil, qual e a
> funcao da BRASNET, ou qual a funcao do newsgroup, desde que ha
> pouca coisa alem das mensagens que aparecem na BRASNET?
Hmmm....que tal colocar a coisa assim...a Bras-net ainda e' o lugar onde
podemos abobrinhar a vontade, ca' entre no's (quem nao lembra do Deivy PT
Saudacoes e da Existe-Nao_existe-Rua-Waterloo ?:) e na USENET botamos a
cara no mundo...
> A nao ser
> que nem todos tenham acesso a ambos os grupos, se estes grupos nao
> servirem funcoes distintas eu tenho duvidas sobre a necessidade de
> todos os dois existirem.
Eu penso que os dois grupos DEVEM continuar existindo - a Bras-Nerd por sua
importancia historica, utilidade indiscutivel e seleta audiencia - e o
newsgroup por sua accessibilidade indiscriminada a todos aqueles interessados
no Brasil.
Um abraco,
Izar
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iz...@cs.huji.ac.il | how do you know that it made one at all ?"
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> BRASNET, se tudo for repetido no soc.culture.brazil, qual e a
> funcao da BRASNET, ou qual a funcao do newsgroup, desde que ha
> pouca coisa alem das mensagens que aparecem na BRASNET?
Hmmm....que tal colocar a coisa assim...a Bras-net ainda e' o lugar onde
podemos abobrinhar a vontade, ca' entre no's (quem nao lembra do Deivy PT
Saudacoes e da Existe-Nao_existe-Rua-Waterloo ?:) e na USENET botamos a
cara no mundo...
> A nao ser
> que nem todos tenham acesso a ambos os grupos, se estes grupos nao
> servirem funcoes distintas eu tenho duvidas sobre a necessidade de
> todos os dois existirem.
Eu penso que os dois grupos DEVEM continuar existindo - a Bras-Nerd por sua
importancia historica, utilidade indiscutivel e seleta audiencia - e o
newsgroup por sua accessibilidade indiscriminada a todos aqueles interessados
no Brasil.
Um abraco,
Izar
+Izar Tarandach | "When in the distant Computer Room
+CS SysGroup | a computer crashes, crumbles and falls
+HUJI - Israel | if nobody did /etc/crash -d /var/crash/machine/vmcore.N
iz...@cs.huji.ac.il | how do you know that it made one at all ?"
From: IN%"ST403418%BROWNVM...@mvs.oac.ucla.edu" "sonia" 5-JAN-1992 11:40:35.01
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Favor colocar o meu nome na rede BRAS-NET.
Desde jah agradeco.
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> coisa que eu tenho notado e que todas, ou quase todas as noticias
> que aparecem na BRASNET sao repetidas no soc.culture.brazil.
> Apesar de ser facil passar por cima dos artigos que ja li na
> BRASNET, se tudo for repetido no soc.culture.brazil, qual e a
> funcao da BRASNET, ou qual a funcao do newsgroup, desde que ha
Tem muita gente que esta na Bitnet, principalmente no Brasil que nao
tem acesso a USENET, voce e um dos felizados...
Quando as mensagens sao repetidas, simplismente continue na proxima!
Tem gente que odeia a bras-net... para esses a usenet e uma forma ideal
para que leiam o que querem, na conveniencia do leitor.
> pouca coisa alem das mensagens que aparecem na BRASNET? A nao ser
> que nem todos tenham acesso a ambos os grupos, se estes grupos nao
> servirem funcoes distintas eu tenho duvidas sobre a necessidade de
> todos os dois existirem.
> Estou interessado em saber o que voces pensam,
> abracos,
> Guilherme Oliveira
> GCO5031@TAMVENUS
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>
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o.
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From: IN%"FON...@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU" "Danilo Fonseca" 5-JAN-1992 17:23:13.30
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From: Danilo Fonseca <FON...@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject: AL perde vez em midia dos EUA
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
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Essa materia do JBdemonstra a falta de interesse dos americanos acima do
Rio Grande pelos outros americanos. A materia e de novembro de 1991. Por ser
longa, recortei e esperei ate que tivesse um tempo para transcrever. La vai:
AMERICA LATINA PERDE ESPACO NA IMPRENSA DOS EUA (Karina Pastore, SP) - Para mui
tos sobrinhos de Tio Sam, a AL nao passa de um emaranhado de paises habitados
por "cucarachas". Que o diga o ex-presidente dos EUA, Reagan, o mais celebre
protagonista deste tumulto geografico. Num deslize diplomatico, em 82, ele sau-
dou os brasileiros com um entusiasmado "ao povo da Bolivia...".O jornalista
Lawrence Weschler, ha 11 anos na The New Yorker Magazine, garante que a confu-
sao de Reagan e da maioria dos (norte) americanos nao acontece por falta de li-
coes de Geografia, mas pelo mais absoluto desprezo com o que acontece abaixo do
Tropico de Cancer. Weschler denunciou, na Assembleia Geral da Sociedade Intera-
mericana de Imprensa (SIP), que o interesse da midia do seu pais pela AL, alem
de reduzido, tende a diminuir ainda mais.
Na reuniao, ha uma semana, o inconformado Weschler, de 39 anos, perguntou a
sua colega Karen Young, editora assistente do Wash.Post, o porque de tanto des-
caso com a AL. A jornalista foi taxativa: "A grande historia latino-americana e
a democratizacao, e esta e uma historia chata e aborrecida".De uma monotonia
tao grande quanto assistir a um bando de formigas atravessando a rua, disse Ka-
ren. Os (norte) americanos usam um famigerado quarteto de letras para descrever
como ficam entediados quando o assunto e AL: MEGO (My eyes glaze over), quer
dizer, nao consigo manter meus olhos abertos.
O desdem dos EUA para com a AL esta confinado a um circulo vicioso, diz
Weschler. A imprensa nao da muita importancia porque ninguem se interessa e ne-
nhum (norte) americano se importa porque nao ha reportagens... Assim vai: ate a
estarrecedora constatacao de que nos ultimos cinco anos, a CBS fez apenas tres
reportagens sobre o Brasil: duas sobre os ianomamis e uma sobre a violencia do
Rio. "A emissora sequer mencionou as eleicoes, um acontecimento tao importante"
, lamenta o jornalista.
Quando Bush veio a AL, no final do ano passado (90), a Time dedicou apenas 2
paragrafos a sua visita. A Newsweek sequer mencionou o periplo do presidente.
"Era como se ele estivesse fora do mapa", ironiza Weschler. Nos ultimos 6 meses
, a unica noticia que os telespectadores da NBC tiveram sobre os primos pobres
dos (norte)americanos foi sobre a colera no Peru. A CBS, no mesmo periodo, se-
quer mencionou a existencia de vida na AL.
"Pergunte a midia (norte)americana por que ela nao se dedica mais aos latino
-americanos e ela logo respondera: "Nao temos dinheiro agora para isso", afirma
Weschler, referindo-se a recessao nos EUA. A NBC mantinha 2 escritorios do la-
do de baixo do Tropico de Cancer: um no Rio e outro em Managua. Ambos foram fe-
chados e a cobertura passou a ser feita de Miami. Este ano (91), o de Miami tam
bem cerrou as suas portas. "Agora, a NBC cobre a AL de Washington".
O proprio Weschler so descobriu a AL aos 35 anos. "Quando voce cresce nos
EUA, parece que o Brasil se resume a carnaval, selva amazonica, indios e cobras
", lembra ele. Em 1987, decidido a escrever sobre tortura, ele assistiu a uma
conferencia, em NY, do pastor presbiteriano Jaime Wright sobre o livro "Brasil:
Nunca Mais" e achou que era uma "tremenda historia".
Pouco tempo depois, pela primeira vez, ele desembarcava no Brasil a procura
de pessoas que, durante quase 6 anos, na surdina, fotocopiaram milhares de pro-
cessos politicos do Supremo Tribunal Militar de Brasilia. Nascia assim "Um mi-
lagre, um universo/ O acerto de contas com os torturadores", a historia de Wes-
chler sobre a feitura de "Brasil:nunca mais".O Seattle Times comparou o livro
aos mais "emocionantes'thrillers' de Costa Gravas".
Weschler pode, entao, sentir na pele o menosprezo dos (norte) americanos pe
la AL. Nos EUA, "A miracle, a universe/Settling accounts with torturers" vendeu
apenas 2 mil exemplares (mil a menos que a edicao brasileira), depois de ter si
do publicado em capitulos na The New Yorker. Ate hoje, a reacao que mais entusi
asmou Weschler partiu de ninguem menos que Augusto Pinochet, o ditador chileno.
Em sua visita ao Rio, no inicio de 1991, numa livraria do Barra Shopping, Pino-
chet folheou o livro e disse: "Todo es mentira", num arroubo de corporativismo.
O recorte de jornal com a descricao da cena esta hoje pregado no banheiro da ca
sa de Weschler, num suburbio novaiorquino.
Ironico, o jornalista diz que as atencoes dos EUA em relacao aa AL aumentam
quando alguma coisa desagradavel aos (norte) americanos acontece aqui embaixo.
"Ai e tudo muito importante". Foi assim em 83, quando Reagan apareceu na TV e
disse que El Salvador era tao perto do Texas quanto o Texas de Massachusetts.
Que a Nicaragua estava mais proxima de Miami que Miami de Washington. "Depois
da segunda metade dos anos 80, nunca mais se falou sobre El Salvador ou Nicara-
gua", lamenta Weschler.
O descaso, filosofa Weschler, e uma especie de privilegio do Primeiro Mundo
sobre o Terceiro - um jeito de olhar de cima para baixo. Movimento que se perpe
tua dentro do proprio Brasil - "um pais que e ao mesmo tempo rico e pobre, de-
senvolvido e subdesenvolvido" - e na relacao da imprensa brasileira com a AL.
"Por que entao os (norte) americanos vao se preocupar com o que acontece aqui,
se nem os brasileiros se importam?", pergunta Weschler, reproduzindo a filoso-
fia dos (norte) americanos.
(JB - 3/11/91)
Danilo Fonseca <fon...@auvm.american.edu>
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Isso ja' foi bem discutido.
Acontece que nem todos tem acesso a USENET. (Eu tenho acesso aos
dois).
Para aqueles que acham desnecessario ter acesso aos dois boletins,
basta cancelar um.
De qualquer forma, nao estou ainda convencido se e' de todo correto
transcrever as mensagens da brasnet na soc.culture.brazil, uma vez que
a transcricao no sentido contrario ainda nao acontece.
Abracos
Edval
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From: Edval Santos <KZ...@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu>
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Um ponto muito importante e' que as duas maiores empresas de automoveis
sao a CHEVROLET (e associadas) e a FORD (e associadas).
Numa situacao dessa pode-se dar ao luxo de transformar a GM numa
especie de exemplo.
Edval Santos
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From: Edval Santos <KZ...@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Nordeste Miseravel III
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Ola' todos,
O governo critica a atuacao dos empresarios, mas abre os cofres
para os usineiros (senhores feudais) do nordeste. Como ja' mencionei
varias vezes nesse forum, um dos alicerces da miseria nordestina esta'
na sustentacao do feudalismo pelo governo federal. Portanto, acredito que
usineiro que nao tem condicoes de produzir dentro dos precos do
mercado deve ir vender cachorro-quente (como disse o presidente aos
empresarios (algo semelhante)).
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> = == == ==
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> N O T I C I A S
> 23 - EDICAO
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>
>Usineiros terao mais emprestimos do governo
>Segunda, 09/12
>
> P A I N E L
> ===========
>COFRE SECRETO
>O projeto de reforma agraria do governo preve um custo de assentamento
>por familia de US!12 mil. Ou seja: sera preciso US!4,8 bi para as 400
>mil familias que Collor prometeu assentar.
Alguem saberia me dizer como e' que eles chegaram a esse
valor!!!!!!
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Folha de S.Paulo, Segunda, 16 de Dezembro de 1991
>
> DEPUTADOS DAO ISENCAO DE IPI PARA OS USINEIROS
> A Camara dos Deputados aprovou ontem o texto basico do projeto que
> isenta do IPI (imposto sobre produtos industrializados) os usineiros
> de acucar e alcool do Nordeste. Foi fixada uma aliquota de 18p/c para
> a regiao Centro-Sul. O projeto sera votado ainda este ano no Senado.
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Gostaria de aproveitar a oportunidade e oferecer alguns
comentarios a algumas perguntas, observacoes e criticas que me
foram feitas, apos a primeira mensagem entitulada:
"Nordeste miseravel"
A primeira coisa que notei e' que muitas das pessoas que fazem
comentarios sobre o nordeste, nao conhece o nordeste, ou apenas fizeram
observacoes bem superficiais. A maioria parece repetir o que ouve
da imprensa no sul, o que e' compreenssivel quando se fala de pessoas
ignorantes, mas imperdoavel, quando se trata de pessoas que diz ter
conhecimento do metodo cientifico.
* REFORMA AGRARIA nao da' certo, o agricultor vende a terra de volta.
Pegue um agricultor miseravel e lhe de~ um pedaco de terra,
se sua familia nao tem o que comer daqui a uma semana, eu pergunto sera'
que ele vai esperar ate' conseguir uma safra para se alimentar? As chances
sao altas de que ele vai terminar por vender sua propriedade para poder
comer. E' uma questao de sobrevivencia. Seguindo esse modelo de reforma
agraria, o governo so' esta' transferindo dinheiro para o dono da terra,
ao mesmo tempo em que pode colocar numeros bonitos nas planilhas.
Apos 150 anos de exploracao, a reforma agraria tem que ir alem
disso, tem que ter apoio tecnico, tem que ser combinada com projeto de
irrigacao. Tem que se colocar em mente que o sertanejo, ou e' decendente
de indios, ou e' decendente de portugues com indio, e' diferente do
imigrante europeu. Sera' que algum de vos ja' se perguntou onde estao
os indios nordestinos?
Reforma agraria e' bom para a industria, pois cria novos consumidores,
ela e' como uma segunda abolicao da escravatura. Reforma agraria nao e' boa
para expeculadores, donos de terras improdutivas, etc.
Dizer que reforma agraria e' coisa de comunista e' colocar rotulos
sem experimentar, e convenhamos, se vamos encontrar uma solucao para o
Brasil precisamos deixar de ser adolecentes, e comecarmos a se comportar
como adultos. E' importante nao ter bloqueios mentais, uma vez que se se
restringe o espaco de solucoes, a solucao obtida nessas condicoes pode nao
ser a melhor. Vamos ter que deixar de pensar como colonizados, e ter
coragem para obter solucoes proprias.
* A CODEVASF nao fez reforma agraria.
-Tecnicamente a CODEVASF desenvolveu projetos de irrigacao rural,
o projeto no medio Sao Francisco eu nao conheco bem, mesmo assim ele e'
um exemplo de que o solo nordestino e' muito mau aproveitado. (Israel
que o diga).
Ja' o projeto no Baixo Sao Francisco, eu o conheco. Meu avo~
era agricultor naquela regiao. No inicio a COEDVASF desapropriou
terras para poder construir uma barragem e assim controlar as enchentes do Sao
Francisco. Com a barragem pronta, a terra foi dividida em
lotes e distribuidas com os agricultores, os quais se comprometiam a plantar
em seus lotes, ao mesmo tempo em que recebiam assistencia tecnica da
CODEVASF. O resultado disso e' que pela primeira vez quebrou-se o ciclo
vicisoso onde o agricultor sempre estava devendo para o dono da terra.
Hoje, com a barragem, ha' duas safras por ano e o nivel de vida da
regiao, quando comparo como era antes, esta' muito melhor.
Ha' agua encanada, varias casas tem TV, geladeira, fogao a gas (quando
eu era garoto, ia-se buscar agua com o pote, esfriava-se a agua colocando-a
na moringa e deixando-a na janela, ouvia-se as noticias apenas pelo
radio, nao havia posto de saude, ou telefone).
*O problema sao os politicos nordestinos.
-Para entender a politica no nordeste, tem que se levar em consideracao
que eles foram eleitos dentro da estrutura feudal nordestina. Em outras
palavras, eles sao eleitos para defender os interesses do dono da terra,
que lhe garante o voto. O politico nordestino, enquanto politico, nao
e' diferente de um poilitico de qualquer parte do mundo, infelizmente
um politico tipicamente defende interesses de grupos que o apoia. Como
escrevi na minha primeira mensagem, o miseravel nao tem muita escolha,
e' tipicamente analfabeto e esta' lutando para sobreviver, e' muito facil
criticar vestindo a roupa de intelectual de bar.
Agora, quando um politico e' apanhado na contramao da historia
(e.g., caso recente da discussao entre o sr. Joao Santos e a imprensa)
e o caso nao e' levado as ultimas consequencias, entao a sociedade como
um todo passa a ser cumplice.
Mui respeitosamente,
Edval, o nordestino, Santos
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Acho que todos voces, Camacho, Izar e Walter Morales tem razao no
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SINOPSE DE IMPRENSA
1992
06 DE JANEIRO
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| TEMPORAL PROVOCA PANICO E CAUSA PELO MENOS 23 MORTES
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| FOLHA DE S. PAULO
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| CINCO HORAS DE CHUVA NO RIO MATAM 25 PESSOAS
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| O ESTADO DE S. PAULO
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| TEMPORAL INUNDA RIO, SOTERRA CASAS E CAUSA 25 MORTES
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MATERIAS DE CAPA DAS REVISTAS SEMANAIS
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VEJA
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1992
O ANO MAGICO DA ESPANHA
O Pais celebra a prosperidade, Colombo, as Olimpiadas e a
Expo de Sevilha
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ISTO E'/ SENHOR
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1984
O GOLPE QUE QUASE HOUVE
Figueiredo e seus ministros militares revelam como se frustrou
um plano para derrubar a candidatura Tancredo
PANORAMA DA IMPRENSA NESTA 2a. FEIRA
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L O C A L
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* TRAGEDIA * O temporal que atingiu o estado do Rio de Janeiro na noite
de anteontem e madrugada de ontem causou a morte de 28 pessoas, deixou
cinco feridos e centenas de desabrigados, informa O GLOBO. Foram cerca de
seis horas ininterruptas de chuva, o suficiente para alagar quase todos os
bairros do Rio e da Baixada Fluminense.
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P O L I T I C A
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* DECISAO * Os aposentados e pensionistas do Rio vao saber hoje se
receberao o reajuste de 147,06% determinado pelo Juiz Antonio Castro
Aguiar, da 11a. Vara de Justica Federal. A decisao depende do voto do
Presidente do Supremo Tribunal Federal, Sydney Sanches, que analisou todos
os argumentos do Advogado-Geral da Uniao, Arthur Castilho Neto, contrario
ao pagamento.
A data para o pagamento da diferenca do reajuste de 147,06% aos
aposentados e pensionistas de Sao Paulo, fixada para o proximo dia 17,
podera' ser antecipada por causa de uma acao civil publica movida contra o
INSS, noticia O ESTADO DE SP.
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E C O N O M I A
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* EXPORTACOES * O Brasil chegou a um recorde de US! 5 bilhoes em
exportacoes para os paises latino-americanos em 1991, segundo dados da
Coordenacao Tecnica de Intercambio Comercial (CTIC).
Entre janeiro e novembro, as exportacoes de produtos brasileiros para os
paises membros da Associacao Latino-Americana de Desenvolvimento e
Integracao (Aladi) somaram US! 4,4 bilhoes - US! 1,5 bilhao a mais que no
mesmo periodo em 1990.
* RECEITA * O ex-Ministro Mario Henrique Simonsen afirma que o Brasil
esta' adotando uma linha economica correta, e espera que o Governo nao
tente nenhuma "solucao magica" para 1992.
Em entrevistao a O GLOBO, o ex-Ministro diz que a inflacao deve cair
nestes primeiros meses do ano e, depois que o Governo tiver um bom
resultado a apresentar 'a sociedade, deveria adotar um tipo de politica de
rendas, como a prefixacao, para derrubar os precos.
* AUMENTO * O ESTADO DE SP informa que o salario minimo, congelado
desde setembro de 1991, deve aumentar este mes 126,7%, passando de Cr! 42
mil para Cr! 95,2 mil. O Governo ja' devia ter fixado o valor oficial, mas
o INPC de novembro e dezembro e' desconhecido devido 'a greve do IBGE,
explica o jornal.
* PREJUIZO * A empresa de consultoria Austin Asis fez um levantamento
com base em 331 empresas com acoes em Bolsa e constatou que, entre janeiro
e setembro do ano passado, 48% delas tiveram prejuizo. Em 90, no mesmo
periodo, 40% registraram prejuizo; e em 89, apenas 18%. (FOLHA DE SP)
* CONCORDATA * A GAZETA MERCANTIL informa que, desde a posse do
Presidente Collor, em marco de 1990, 1.536 empresas pediram concordata em
todo o Pais, deixando um passivo estimado em US! 2 bilhoes - a maioria
destas empresas esta' pedindo na Justica a nao aplicacao da correcao
monetaria sobre suas dividas.
Por causa disso, seus credores podem ter de esperar mais tempo para
receber a parcela total dos creditos a que tem direito - os recursos
demoram em media um ano e meio para serem julgados.
* COBRA I * A EXAME traz materia sobre a Cobra, a setima maior empresa
do Pais no setor de informatica, e analisa sua atuacao desde o Governo
Militar ate' os dias de hoje.
A revista afirma que a Cobra "emagreceu" - o numero de funcionarios caiu
de 2.342 para 1.992 nos ultimos dois anos - e deixou de ser excessivamente
verticalizada - passou a comprar componentes de terceiros e concentrar
seus esforcos na linha de computadores e produtos para automacao bancaria.
Alem disso, investiu US! 20 milhoes em lancamentos em 1991.
(EXAME, pag. 38 - janeiro/92).
* COBRA II * O JORNAL DO BRASIL de domingo informa que o Banco do
Brasil esta' elaborando um projeto de privatizacao para a venda do
controle da Cobra Computadores e Sistemas Brasileiros.
De acordo com o jornal, a proposta inicial preve a transferencia de 40% do
capital votante da empresa para uma industria (nacional ou estrangeira) do
setor de informatica e a reducao da participacao do Banco, hoje
majoritario, de 85,8% para 6,62%.
(JORNAL DO BRASIL, Negocios e Financas - pag. 4 - 05/01).
* DIVISAO * A GAZETA MERCANTIL traz materia sobre a mudanca no perfil
da industria de computadores, afirmando que o setor esta' "'a beira de um
trauma".
O jornal cita a experiencia da Sun, que se dividiu em tres partes ha' seis
meses: uma das subsidiarias promove a versao da Sun do sistema operacional
Unix; outra se dedica 'a construcao das estacoes de trabalho; e a terceira
esta' vendendo impressoras e outros equipamentos perifericos.
(GAZETA MERCANTIL, pag. 14).
* PREPARACAO * O ESTADO DE SP informa que a Sid Informatica fechou 1991
com uma queda de 20% em seu faturamento, que ficou em US! 180 milhoes.
(O ESTADO DE SP, Informatica - pag. 3).
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ze luiz
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First Panamerican Workshop
Caracas Venezuela January 10-15 1993
Organizing Committee (USA and CANADA)
Paul Boggs, Vice Chairman National Institute of Standards and Technology
Jose Castillo, Chairman, San Diego State University
John Dennis, Rice University
Robert O'Malley, University of Washington
Robert Russel, Simon Fraser University
Stanly Steinberg, University of New Mexico
Richard Tapia, Rice University
Organizing Committee (Venezuela)
Saul Buitrago, INTEVEP, S.A.
Ubaldo Garcia-Palomares, Universidad Simon Bolivar
Marianela Lentini, Chair, Universidad Simon Bolivar
Raul Manzanilla, INTEVEP, S.A.
Consuelo Maulino, Universidad Central de Venezuela,
Vianey Villamizar, Universidad Central de Venezuela
Please contact the workshops organizers directly.
One extended abstract (one page) should be sent to the appropiate
workshop organizers.
Contributions must be original. Deadline April 30, 1992.
Acceptance/rejection notification July 15, 1992.
Short courses (on Sunday):
1. Paul Boggs bo...@cam.nist.gov
2. Horst Simon si...@nas.nasa.gov
PLace.
Universidad Simon Bolivar (Simon Bolivar University)
Caracas-Venezuela
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David Carlson car...@math.sdsu.edu
Consuelo Maulino. emsca!intevep!ifs...@sun.com
2. Optimization :
John Dennis den...@rice.edu
Ubaldo Garcia-Palomares emsca!usb!gar...@sun.com
3. Mathematical Oil Recovery :
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S. Buitriago. emsca!intevep!sa...@sun.com
4. Network Modelling :
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Robert Meyer r...@cs.wisc.edu
5. Mathematics in Industry :
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Alfonzo Reinoza.
6. Applied Probability & Statistics :
Luc Devroye l...@crodo.cs.mcgill.ca
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7. Scientific Computing :
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8. Numerical Methods :
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9. Numerical Differential Equations :
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12. Mathematical Ecology :
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From: IN%"JAL...@uga.cc.uga.edu" "aleixo" 6-JAN-1992 14:04:50.29
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Solicito inclusao de meu nome na relacao da SOC.CULTURE.BRAZIL
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Eu agradeceria se o meu nome pudesse ser incluido na lista do
soc.culture.brazil
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Marco
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From: IN%"MAR...@ucs.indiana.edu" 6-JAN-1992 22:23:55.91
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Estou tendo um problema com a edic,ao da mensagem. Favor
apagar a mensagem de titulo acima se comec,ar a nao fazer
sentido. Enviarei nova versao no futuro. Desculpem o
problema.
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Atencao o colega que criou a ponte Bras-Net ---> soc.cult.brazil.
Gostaria de informar que as mensagens que vem da Bras-Net para a
soc.cult.brazil aparecem no newsgroup com "From Brasnet" mas com o corpo
da mensagem em branco. Me parece que um outro colega do Canada' reportou
o mesmo problema.
NAO ENTENDO DO ASSUNTO, mas creio que o programa que repete as
mensagens (automaticamente?) da Bras-Net para a soc.culture.brazil esta'
engolindo (ou apagando?) as mensagens.
Outra coisa, o pessoal que esta' tentando se inscrever na
soc.culture.brazil. Acho que isso nao e' possivel, a instituicao em que
voce se encontra deve te informar a respeito da USENET.
Se eu estiver errado me corrijam.
Um grande abra,co.
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From: MAR...@ucs.indiana.edu
Subject: Leitura historica
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
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Durante estas ferias li um curioso livro, publicado HA' SETENTA
ANOS, em Sao Paulo, que trata do futuro do Brasil. O titulo do
livro e' SONHO DE GIGANTE e o autor J.A. Nogueira, e foi editado
pela Monteiro Lobato e Cia., a primeira editora moderna brasileira.
O autor pertencia ao grupo ligado ao Monteiro Lobato e acho que,
originariamente, era mineiro.
Um dos capitulos mais curiosos para o leitor de hoje, pela acuidade
de sua predic,ao, e' o que se intitula "Um Aparelho de Desnaciona-
lizac,ao" (pp. 95-99){ Dstilo e a
linguagem, que sao de 1922, e verao que J.A. Nogueira, se insere
bem em certas discussoes atuais.
UM APARELHO DE DESNACIONALIZAC,AO
J. A. Nogueira
+Influencia nociva do cinema norte-americano - Reino
do "espirito de vulgaridade" - Materializac,ao ge-
ral da vida - Combatamos a "nordomania" +
Em uma vigorosa pagina de seu livro *Onda Verde+ escreveu Monteiro
Lobato estas linhas muito para meditadas: "O Brasil de amanha nao se elabo-
ra aqui. Vem em peliculas, de Los Angeles, enlatado como goiabada. E a
dominac,ao *yankee* vai-se operando de modo agradavel, sem que o assi-
milado o perceba".
Em verdade a influencia do cinema entre nos esta' convertendo-
-se em angustioso problema.
O poder de difusao desse genero de diversao, hoje tao estimado
em todas as camadas sociais, e as perniciosas consequencias que dele po-
dem advir para a nossa nacionalidade, em via de formac,ao, nao esca-
pam `a visao dos que se preocupam seriamente com a defesa dos elementos de
ordem moral e espiritual que *devem* preponderar no Brasil de amanha.
E um dos mais graves aspectos dessa verdadeira calamidade publi-
ca que consiste nas mil e uma forc,as de sugestao e despersonalizac,ao
lanc,adas desapoderadamente pelo cinema nas almas simples e impressionaveis
das crianc,as de todas as idades esta' na desnacionalizac,ao insidio-
sa que vai fatalmente operando na alma do nosso povo a influencia norte-ame-
ricana, no que ela tem de mais nocivo e dissolvente para nos.
A "nordomania" e' hoje umd os nossos maiores males. Com ela teremos
cada vez mais o reino do "espirito de vulgaridade" que a caracteriza, a-
poteose da forc,a bruta e exteriorizac,ao ou materializac,ao geral
d. Porque, como acontecsempre em tais casos de imitac,ao unilatal
de uma rac,a por outra diversissima, so' vingaremos reproduzir-lhe comica-
mentos defeitos, exagerando-os ate' `a caricatura, sem todavia assimi-
lar-lhes as qualidades.
Aga nao se trata propriamente daquela "ilusao americana", que tao
veementes coleras edespertou no grande e fino brasileiro que foi Eduardo
Prado. Agora nao se trata apenas da lamentabilissima metafora monroista, que
dos altos montes da politica internacional vem de ha' muito projetando
sobre a nossa soberania crescentes e temerosas sombras. Nao e' mais de
fora que avanc,a a arremetida. E' em nos mesmos, em nossa alma coletiva, na
mentalidade ductil das novas gerac,oes que comec,am de amanhecer para a
patria, que campeiam as forc,as da dissoluc,ao, tanto mais prejudiciais
quanto mais veladas e disfarc,adas. E' sobretudo por via das exterioridades
faustosas do cinema que nos entram pelos olhos insensivelmente os mo-
delos estranhos destinados a deslatinizarem a America do Sul e a
desbrasilerarem o Brasil..
Tao grande e' e tao grave o perigo, que achamos devia o governo
voltar para ele seriamente os seus olhos, cuidando de acudir com providenc9ias
urgentes. Ha' pouco tempo o telegrafo anunciava que na Franc,a se ia
instituir um departamento publico para proteger e incrementar a indus-
tria cinematografica genuinamente francesa. Por que nao se havia de fa-
zer alguma coisa nesse sentido entre nos? Porque nao havia administrac,ao
de tomar logo, consciente do que se passa, as medidas reclamadas pela
defesa das fontes vivas, das forc,as espirituais do nosso povo e da nossa
rac,a? Porque nao haviamos de ter o "nosso" cinema, esse maravilhoso apare-
lho de educac,ao mor, e de nacionalizac,ao, se dele nos soubermos utilizar
como importa?
E nao venham falar-nos com entono na energia, na "va intensa", no
culto pagao daaude e da forc,a, no colossal esplendor da civilizac,ao
americana. Essa civilizac,ao, ja' o demonstrou Paul Adam no seu *Trust*,
ja' o demonstrou Rodo', no seu *Ariel*, ja' o assinalaram milhares
de observadores e nos mesmos o "sentimos" cada dia ante os ricos "films"
em cujos fulgores mal se dissimula a vacuidade de sua alma, essa civilizac,ao
e' uma vasta megalomania, ruidosa, imensa, apressada e poderosa, mas com-
pletamente despida da alta idealidade, da serena espiritualidade do genio
latino...
Depois o que o cinema norte-americano mais ensina e propaga e' o
apego exclusivo ao interesse material, o gozo dos bens de pura sensualidade
como fim ultimo e, em rigor, ansia constante de luta para conseguir os
meios que preparam tal felicidade", para nos servirmos de palavras de
Leopoldo Alas, a proposito dos defeitos desse grande povo, que devemos
admirar muito e imitar pou.
Nao teriamos alguns milhares de contos para essa medi urgente de
salvac,ao publica - um cinema brasileiro?
(SONHO DE GIGANTE. Sao Paulo: Monteiro Lobato
& Cia., 1922, pp95-99.)
(pela copia, Martins)
e-mail: Mar...@ucs.indiana.edu
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Ao mexer no Arquivos bibliograficos da Universidade (Univ. de Tsukuba, JPN)
no caso "EXCERPTA MEDICA" do ano de 1988 ate 1991. Entrei com o "keyword"
BRAZ(S)IL, dentre os varios artigos (total 725) selecionei alguns que
poderiam ser de interesse geral.
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T Urban hospital cesarean section delivery rates in Paraiba State,
Brazil, 1977-81
A Rodrigues J.
J AM. J. PUBLIC HEALTH
YR 1988
B 78/6 (704-705)
AB Paraiba State, Brazil is one of the poorest areas in that
country; many of the hospitals are not high quality and medical
training is not comparable to that of developed countries.
Nevertheless, the rate of cesarean section delivery in urban
hospitals has risen from 19.0 per cent in 1977 to 28.5 in 1981.
Despite the larger volume of obstetric services in government
hospitals, these hospitals had lower cesarean section rates than
private hospitals, both profit and non-profit.[15;63H [16;1H
LG ENGLISH
T TBAs in rural Northeast Brazil: Referral patterns and perinatal
mortality
A Janowitz B.; Bailey P.E.; Dominik R.C.; Araujo L.
J HEALTH POLICY PLANN.
YR 1988
B 3/1 (48-58)
AB This paper examines factors affecting hospital referral by
traditional birth attendants (TBAs) and the impact of both TBA
assistance and hospital intervention on birth outcome. In the
county of Trairi, Brazil, 139 of 1057 women seen by TBAs over
the course of a year planned to deliver at home but were
referred to a hospital. An additional 119 women gave birth at
home without the assistance of a TBA. Adjusted odds ratios
showed that referral rates were significantly higher for women
in the following groups: first delivery, 35 years and over,
antenatal pathology, malpresentation, previous caesarean
section, multiple birth, and lower caseload of TBA. Although
TBAs identified and referred most high risk women, hospital
intervention did not have a statistically significant impact on
the survival of infants born to women most likely to be
referred. Reporting problems may have reduced significance
levels. For home deliver
ies, survival status was not
significantly affected by the presence of a TBA.
T Breast-feeding patterns and socioeconomic status in the city of
Sao Paulo
A Monteiro C.A.; Zuniga H.P.P.; D'A Benicio M.H.; Rea M.F.
J J. TROP. PEDIATR.
YR 1988
B 34/4 (186-196)
AB Current breast-feeding patterns in the City of Sao Paulo were
determined from a random sample of 1016 children under 5 years
of age. Although breast feeding is started for the majority of
children, its median duration does not exceed 4 months for
overall breast feeding and about 2 months for exclusive breast
feeding. Unlike the patterns usually found in developing
countries, the rates of breast feeding during the first 6 months
of life are significantly higher among the high socioeconomic
strata in whom rates for exclusive breast feeding are
particularly impressive. Certain characteristics of local public
health services, such as the extremely high incidence of
deliveries by caesarean section (47.3 per cent of all
deliveries), virtual non-existence of rooming-in, and
indiscriminate distribution of powdered milk to children under 1
year of age, could explain in part the high incidence of early
termination of breast feeding and socioeconomic status may have
been determined by a greater impact of the national breast
feeding. The direct association between breast feeding campaign
since 1981 on mothers in this social group.
T Female sterilization and its demographic impact in Brazil
A Rutenberg N.; Ferraz E.A.
J INT. FAM. PLANN. PERSPECT.
YR 1988
B 14/2 (61-68)
AB Twenty-seven percent of currently married Brazilian women aged
15-44 are protected against pregnancy by sterilization. Female
sterilization has averted 0.7 births per woman and reduced the
total fertility rate (TFR) by 16 percent. Sterilization rate for
the first half of the 1980s indicate that 58 percent of
Brazilian women will be sterilized by age 40, with a potential
demographic impact of 1.06 births averted per woman and a 24
percent decline in the TFR. Women with high fertility early in
their reproductive career and moderate completed parity are the
most likely to be sterilized. Among married fecund women who
want to terminate childbearing, 30-34-years-olds, urban women,
those of the highest social classes and women who have delivered
3-5 children are those most likely to be sterilized. Of the
married fecund women who gave birth in the five years prior to
the survey and who want no more children, four-fifths of those
whose last child was delivered by cesarean section had been
sterilized, compared with one-fifth of those who delivered
vaginally. The women most likely to be sterilized had delivered
in a private hospital and had the delivery expenses paid for by
Social Security supplemented with personal payment.
T International differences in the use of obstetric interventions
A Notzon F.C.
J J. AM. MED. ASSOC.
YR 1990
B 263/24 (3286-3291)
AB This study investigated current levels and trends between 1975
and 1986 in the rates of cesarean section in 21 countries and of
operative vaginal delivery in 14 countries. Sharp differences in
national obstetric practice were found, with cesarean rates
ranging from a high of 32 (Brazil) to 7 (Czechoslovakia) per 100
hospital deliveries, and operative vaginal rates from 16
(Canada) to 2 (Czechoslovakia) per 100 hospital deliveries. For
most countries, rates of cesarean section have risen as
operative vaginal rates have fallen, but some important
exceptions exist. A comparison of cesarean section rates for two
complications of labor and delivery that can be objectively
diagnosed, multiple births and breech delivery, demonstrates
that cesarean section rates for these complications rose sharply
in almost every country from 1980 to 1985. A comparison of 1985
national rates of intervention and measures of birth outcome
found no significant relationship between the two. While such
ecological comparisons are imperfect at best, this does indicate
that low levels of early infant mortality can be achieved in
some populations despite a low rate of cesarean deliveries.
T Cesarean section rates, reasons for operations vary between
countries
A Turner R.
J FAM. PLANN. PERSPECT.
YR 1990
B 22/6 (281-282)
T Epidemic of caesarean sections in Brazil
A Baros F.C.; Vaughan J.P.; Victora C.G.; Huttly S.R.A.
J LANCET
YR 1991
B 338/8760 (167-169)
AB Brazil has one of the highest rates of caesarean section in the
world. Patterns of caesarean sections were studied in a cohort
of 5,960 mothers followed from 1982 to 1986 in southern Brazil.
Overall, 27.9% were delivered by caesarean section in 1982, this
proportion being 30% for nulliparae, 80% for second deliveries
when the first was by caesarean, and over 99% for third births
when the first two were by caesarean. Socioeconomic status and
requests for sterilisation by tubal ligation were important
underlying factors. 9.4% of the women were sterilised during a
caesarean section (3.7% in the lowest income group and 20.2% in
the highest). 31% of women who had had their first child by a
caesarean section and who were having a second operative
delivery were sterilised. The high rates of caesarean sections
and accompanying sterilisations reflect the lack of appropriate
reproductive and contraceptive policies in the country.
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Q U E 1 9 9 2 S E J A U M A N O M E L H O R P A R A
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* EDMUNDO MASSARU SAITOH *
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From: IN%"wal...@m2xenix.psg.com" "Walter T. Morales" 7-JAN-1992 03:42:28.06
To: IN%"bras...@cs.columbia.edu"
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Well... assim e', voce nao pode pedir para se inscrever para usenet
voce tem que ter a ela. Soc.culture.brazil nao e uma mailing list
mas sim um grupo na USENET ao qual deve ser/estar instalado em
seu computador ou ao qual voce tem acesso.
Para testar, se voce tiver acesso a unix na sua maquina tente;
$rn brazil
ou
$nn brazil
se os comandos forem recusados.... sorry you are out of luck!
Newsgroups: news.admin,news.announce.newusers,news.answers
Summary: Periodic posting about the basic steps involved in
[Wish list: (1) It would be nice if someone who is familiar with the
various mail transport agent software packages would prepare a
periodic posting similar to the "USENET Software" posting, discussing
the available software with summaries of advantages and disadvantages
of each package. (2) More details about other questions raised below
in square braces, and marked with XXX.]
This article attempts to summarize, in a general way, the steps
involved in setting up a machine to be on the USENET.
It assumes that you already have some sort of USENET access
(otherwise, how did you get this article?), or at the very least, that
you have ftp or mail server access to get to some of the files
mentioned in it, and that you are trying to configure your own site to
be on the USENET after using some other site for some period of time.
If this assumption is incorrect, then ask whoever made this article
available to you to help you get access to the resources mentioned
below.
Before reading this posting, you should be familiar with the
contents of the introductory postings in the news.announce.newusers
newsgroup, most importantly the posting entitled "USENET Software:
History and Sources". Many of the terms used below are defined in
those postings. The news.announce.newusers postings are accessible in
the periodic posting archive on pit-manager.mit.edu [18.72.1.58], in
/pub/usenet via anonymous ftp, or via E-mail by sending a message to
mail-...@pit-manager.mit.edu (send a message with "help" in the
body to get more information).
*************************
There are five basic steps involved in configuring a machine to be a
USENET site.
1. Make the decision -- do you *really* want to do this?
If you just want to read USENET yourself, then putting your machine
onto the USENET is probably not what you want to do. The process of
doing so can be time-consuming, and regular maintenance is also
required. Furthermore, the resources consumed by a full USENET setup
on a machine are significant:
- disk space for the programs {a few Mb for the binaries, another
couple of Mb for any sources you keep online},
- disk space for the articles - currently approaching 400Mb a month,
- modem time {possibly long-distance} transferring the articles to
your machine {assuming that you are using a modem rather than an
Internet NNTP connection},
- and fees if you're paying someone to provide you with a news feed.
You might choose, instead, to get an account on a public-access
USENET site on which you can read news by dialing up. See, for
example, the "Nixpub posting" articles in comp.misc for a list of such
sites.
Even if there are no public-access USENET sites that are a local
phone call away from you, you might still choose this approach,
especially if you only read a few {low traffic} groups. Using a
public-access site that is accessible via PC Pursuit or some other
packet network might still be cheaper and/or easier than setting up
the feed, transferring the news and configuring you machine to store
news locally.
You should be sure that the benefits you are going to get by storing
news locally are going to outweigh the costs before deciding to
proceed. In summary, however, let me say that this decision is not
always a clear one. To explain why, let me include an alternative
perspective, from j...@jshark.rn.com, on why getting a feed may be
appropriate even for a single-user machine:
>When you get to long distance calls, reading the news on-line gets the
>cost rising fast. A few seconds to skip an article you've no interest
>in, maybe a minute to take in a good one plus more time to save it and
>download it later. But when the whole lot is batched together (as
>news), a) it only takes a few minutes and b) it's all conveniently
>automated. Sure, configuring the hardware and software may take a
>(small) time - but it's something you only do once.
>
>And unless you want to get comp.*, the disk space needed is not that
>great. (20Mb disks are about 100 dollars over here; the saving in
>phone charges would pay for that in a few months)
>
>I also find that replying takes time, and this is where on-line
>"reading" would start to really burn dollars! The alternative, {
>download - logout - compose reply - dial back in - login - post (or
>mail) reply}, is a) inconvenient and b) still costly.
>
>Perhaps I see "news administration" as a simple task *because* I only
>provide news to one other site and get a very limited feed. (No
>overflowing disks, no "disappearing inodes", neither angry users nor
>management.) The initial stages were a bit fraught (200kb batches
>being bounced back because of permission problems :-( ), but very
>little effort now. I have an impression, based on your address and
>past postings, that you are involved in "system management" at MIT so
>you see things from a "major site" point of view??
2. Find a site to feed you news and/or mail.
In order to make your machine a USENET site, you need to find other
sites on the USENET that are willing to feed you news and/or mail.
You might want to locate more than one such site if you want higher
reliability.
Finding feeds for a UUCP site.
If you are going to be using a modem (and, presumably, UUCP) to
transfer your news and mail, then then there are several resources you
can use when trying to locate a feed site:
a. Comp.mail.maps
Find the postings in the comp.mail.maps newsgroup for your state,
country, or whatever. Look in it for sites that sound like they are
local to you. Contact their administrators and ask if they would be
willing to give you a feed.
Comp.mail.maps is archived at several anonymous ftp and mail
server sites, including uunet.uu.net, so you can examine map entries
even if the maps have expired at your news-reading site (or if you
do not currently have USENET access). See the article entitled
"UUCP map for README" in the comp.mail.maps newsgroup or archives
for more information about the maps.
The comp.mail.maps postings are also archived in
pit-manager.mit.edu's periodic posting archive, which was mentioned
in detail above.
b. News.admin
Post a message to news.admin. If at all possible, post it with a
restricted distribution, so that only people who are likely to be
able to give you a feed will have to get it (e.g. if you have
posting access on a machine in Massachusetts, and the site you're
setting up is going to be in Massachusetts, then post with a
distribution of "ne").
Note that you can post to news.admin even if you do not have
direct USENET access right now, as long as you have E-mail access --
send your message to news-...@ucbvax.berkeley.edu. However, if
you use ucbvax's gateway, you probably can't use a restricted
distribution as described above, since ucbvax probably isn't in the
distribution you want to post to, and besides, it's not clear that
it listens to the "Distribution:" header in postings that are mailed
to it.
When posting your message, try to be as specific as possible.
Mention where you are, how you intend to transfer news from your
feed site to you (e.g. what kind of modem, how fast), approximately
how many newsgroups you are going to want to get and from which
hierarchies, and perhaps what kind of machine it's all for. A
descriptive Subject line such as "news feed wanted -- Boston, MA" is
also useful.
If there is a regional hierarchy for the distribution in which you
want a feed, then you might want to post a message in one of the
regional newsgroups as well, or cross-post your message to one of
the regional newsgroups. Look first for an "admin" group (e.g.
"ne.admin"), then (if there is no admin group) a "config" group,
then for a "wanted" group.
c. Commercial services
If all else fails, you may have to resort to paying someone to
provide you with a feed. I know about the following service
providers [XXX I would like to augment this list by indicating, for
each organization listed, which of the following four services it
provides: connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds. If
you can tell me with a reasonable level of assurance which of these
services are provided by any of the companies listed below, please
let me know]:
Anterior Technology
P.O. Box 1206
Menlo Park, CA 94026-1206
Voice: (415) 328-5615
Fax: (415) 322-1753
in...@fernwood.mpk.ca.us
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
CERFnet
P.O. Box 85608
San Diego, CA 92186-9784
Voice: (800) 876-CERF
he...@cerf.net
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Attn: David C. Menges
Colorado School of Mines
1500 Illinois
Golden, CO 80401
Voice: 303-273-3471
d...@csn.org
(UUCP, news feeds)
MSEN, Inc.
628 Brooks Street
Ann Arbor, MI 48103
Voice: (313) 741-1120
in...@msen.com
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
MV Communications, Inc.
P.O. Box 4963
Manchester, NH 03108-4963
Voice: (603) 429-2223
Data: (603) 429-1735 (log in as "info" or "rates")
in...@mv.mv.com
(UUCP, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
NEARnet
Attn: John Curran
BBN Systems and Technologies
MS 6/3B
10 Moulton Street
Cambridge, MA 02138
Voice: (617) 873-8730
jcu...@nic.near.net
(connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds (for
NEARnet sites))
Netcom - Online Communication Services
P.O. Box 20774
San Jose, CA 95160
Voice: (408) 554-8649
bo...@netcom.com
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
SURAnet
8400 Baltimore Blvd.
College Park, MD 20742
Voice: (301) 982-3214
Fax: (301) 982-4605
news-...@sura.net
(connectivity, name service (for SURAnet sites), news feeds (for
SURAnet sites))
UUNET Canada, Inc.
1 Yonge St., Suite 1801
Toronto, Ontario
Canada M5E 1W7
Voice: (416) 368-6621
Fax: (416) 369-0515
in...@uunet.ca or uune...@uunet.uu.net
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
UUNET Technologies Inc.
3110 Fairview Park Drive, Suite 570
Falls Church, VA 22042
Voice: (703) 876-5050
Fax: (703) 876-5059
in...@uunet.uu.net
AlterNet (network connectivity) info: altern...@uunet.uu.net
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
UUNORTH, Inc.
Box 445, Station E
Toronto, Ontario
Canada M6H 4E3
Voice: (416) 537-4930 or (416) 225-UNIX
Fax: (416) 537-4890
Performance Systems International, Inc.
11800 Sunrise Valley Drive, Suite 1100
Reston, VA 22091
Voice: (703) 620-6651 or (800) 827-7482
Computerized info: all-...@psi.com
Human-based info: in...@psi.com
(UUCP, connectivity, name service, MX forwarding, news feeds)
Note that some of these are actually network service providers which
provide Internet connectivity, but some will also provide news feeds
to their customers. For more information about many network service
providers, see the anonymous ftp file /info/referral_list on
nnsc.nsf.net.
Some regional network service providers, especially in large urban
areas, offer both UUCP and TCP/IP service via modem or leased line.
If you can find such a company, the cost of a dedicated (leased
line) Internet connection will often be cheaper and more desirable
than a UUCP connection, if you plan on using it for a full newsfeed
or for frequent downloading. Some companies can offer combined
voice and data connections using T1 links, for large-scale users
seeking both Internet access and low-cost toll telephone service.
For more information about the possibility of hooking up to the
network, see the "How to Get Information about Networks" posting in
news.announce.newusers.
NOTE: I am not endorsing any of these companies in any way. I
don't know anything about the level or quality of service either of
them provides. They are simply the ones I know about. If you know
of a site that provides feeds and think it should be mentioned here,
please let me know.
d. European users
In Europe, you can get a feed from one of EUNet's national
networks. They charge for feeds but are "non-commercial," which
means (I assume) that the fees go to the maintenance of the
networks. Most provide help on getting started, can provide source
for the mail and news software and lists of sites who have indicated
they will provide feeds. They also act as Internet forwarders (see
below for more information on this). To contact them, try sending
mail to postm...@country.eu.net or newsm...@country.eu.net. The
"country" in this case should be whatever country you're in.
Note that the national networks have a "no redistribution" policy
and have the option to cut off sites which break this rule. There
are other groups (such as sublink); see (a) and (b) above for
suggestions on how to contact them.
Note that it is to your advantage to try to find a feed site that is
directly on the Internet, if you are not going to be. Getting a feed
from a site on the Internet will allow that site to act as your MX
forwarder (see section 5 below), and the fact that you are only one
hop off of the Internet will make both mail and news delivery fast
(assuming that the feed you get from the Internet site is for both
mail and news; of course, if you can only find someone willing to
forward mail to you but not to traffic with you the heavier load of a
news feed, then your mail delivery will still be fast).
Finding feeds for an Internet site.
If you are on the Internet and would like your news feed to be over
the Internet rather than over a modem link, then you *might* want to
look in the UUCP maps in comp.mail.maps, as mentioned above, since
many USENET sites that are on the Internet are mentioned there.
News.admin and the commercial services listed above are also viable
options. Another option which is relevant only to Internet sites is
to send mail to the mailing list nntp-m...@ucbvax.berkeley.edu,
and ask if anyone on that list is willing to provide you with a news
feed. If you do this, be specific, just as if you were posting to
news.admin as described above.
3. Get the software.
The "USENET Software" posting referenced above goes into quite a bit
of detail about the software that is available. There are three
components in the software at a USENET site: (a) the software that
transports the news (usually using either UUCP or NNTP), (b) the
software that stores the news on the local disks, expires old
articles, etc., and (c) the news-readers for looking at the news.
For example, if you're a UNIX site on the Internet and you're going
to be getting your news feed over the Internet, then you are probably
going to want to get the NNTP and C news packages mentioned in the
"USENET Software" posting, as well as one or more of the UNIX news
readers mentioned there.
Since you are probably going to be exchanging mail as well as news,
and the mail software that is shipped with the OS you are using might
not be powerful enough to handle mail exchanging with the rest of the
USENET, you might want to obtain new mail software as well. There are
several packages you might choose you use. Discussion of them is
beyond the scope of this document; the books referenced below will
probably provide some useful information in this area.
The basic idea is -- go read the "USENET Software" posting, and
work from there.
Europeans can ask their national backbone site, who will usually
also be a software archive, or be closely associated with one. UKC,
for example, provide an information pack explaining what is needed and
where (and how) to get it.
4. Do what it says.
Most of the software available for news transport or storage comes
with installation instructions. Follow them. This part should be
self-explanatory (although the instructions might not be :-).
5. Register your site on the network.
The "traditional" method of advertising your site to the rest of the
USENET after setting it up is to get an entry for it added to the UUCP
maps. Doing this involves choosing a name for your site and
submitting a map entry indicating the name, other vital statistics,
and a list of your feed sites, preferentially weighted. Since many
USENET sites still rely exclusively on the UUCP maps for routing mail,
you will almost certainly want to register in the maps. To find out
more about how to do this, read the "UUCP map for README" posting in
comp.mail.maps, referenced above.
However, the past several years have witnessed a dramatic increase
in the number of sites choosing to register host names in the Internet
Domain Name Service (DNS) hierarchy, in addition to getting a host
entry added to the UUCP maps. The DNS hierarchy is becomingly
increasingly standardized, and DNS name service is more reliable than
the UUCP maps. Therefore, if register a DNS name for your site, put
that DNS name in your UUCP map entry as an alias for your site, and
use the DNS address rather than the UUCP host name in your mail and
USENET postings, both UUCP hosts and hosts that do DNS will be able to
get mail to you more efficiently and reliably.
There are two types of DNS host records that are relevant here. If
you have opted to contract with a company for a direct connection to
the Internet, then you are probably going to want to register an
address record advertising what your address will be on the Internet.
Hosts which understand DNS can then use that record to connect
directly to your machine and deliver mail to it.
If, on the other hand, you are going to be getting your mail via
UUCP from some other site, then the host record you will be
registering is a Mail eXchange (MX) record. This record announces to
the world that mail destined to your host can be directed instead to
another host that IS directly on the Internet. That host is your "MX
forwarder," and it must be one of your feed sites that knows how to
deliver mail to you. In fact, you can have multiple MX records if you
have multiple feeds on the Internet and want it to be possible for
mail to be routed through all of them (for increased reliability), if
they ar willing. Note that if you use a commercial service provider
for your mail feed, it will probably also be your MX forwarder.
Even if none of your feeds are on the Internet, you may be able to
get an MX record, by finding an Internet site that is willing to
receive your mail and put it on its way through the correct UUCP
route. There are currently at least a couple of sites willing to
perform this service for no charge, in order to encourage the
increased use of DNS records. You can therefore probably locate an MX
forwarder by posting to news.admin and asing if anyone is willing to
forward for you.
The procedure for registering a DNS record is quite simple and
usually takes a month or less (at the time of this writing, the
Network Information Center is in a transition period so you'll need to
have patience). Note that many commercial network providers, such as
UUNET, will take care of this for you.
Whether you decide to register an address record or an MX record,
you need to decide what your DNS host name is going to be. Since the
DNS is arranged in a hierarchy, you need to decide what hierarchy your
name will appear in. For example, you might choose to be in the ".us"
domain if you are in the United States and want to be in the United
States geographical hierarchy. Alternatively, you might choose ".edu"
for a University, ".org" for a non-profit organization, ".com" for a
commercial company, etc. For more information about the various
hierarchies and about choosing a host name, see the "How to Get
Information about Networks" posting already referenced.
If you are not in the US, you're theoretically supposed to have no
choice about the top-level domain -- it should always be the
two-letter ISO code for your country (".fr", ".de", etc.). However,
depending on how and how well you are connected to the network, you
might be able to get away with being in one of the older domains
mentioned above (".edu", ".org", etc.). If you want to find out how
to get a host name in a particular European domain, you can probably
start by sending mail to hostm...@mcsun.eu.net and asking for more
information.
Once you have determined your host name, you need to determine one
or more hosts (preferably two or three, so that even if one is having
trouble, the others will fill in for it) that will act as your "name
servers," advertising your host name to anyone who asks for it. Note
that many hierarchies have their own name servers, which means that
when you go through the process of figuring out which domain your host
name will be in, you may find some name servers available to you
already. Furthermore, if you opt to go with a commercial service
provider as described above, your service provider will probably be
willing to act as a name server. Different domain-administration
organizations may require fewer or more name servers (e.g. the NIC
(mentioned below) requires at least two).
Once you've got your host name picked out, you need to submit an
application to the authorities for the domain you've chosen. Many of
the domains, for example, are managed by the DDN Network Information
Center -- to submit an application to one of those domains, you would
get the file DOMAIN-TEMPLATE.TXT via anonymous ftp from nic.ddn.mil,
fill it out, and mail it to hostm...@nic.ddn.mil. You will probably
determine the correct method for applying for a host name in your
domain during the course of investigating which domain to put your
host name in.
If you submit an application and don't get any acknowlegement or
response in a couple of weeks, it's a good idea to send another note
to the same address as you sent your original application to, asking
if it was received.
Even if you aren't going to be connecting directly to Internet at
the start, if your site is using any TCP/IP-based equipment, you
should request a block of IP addresses, to save future transition
headaches. Request one Class C address per subnet, or a Class B if
your site has more than a few hundred systems. If you don't
understand any of this and don't intend on getting on the Internet,
don't worry about it. If/when you do decide to get onto the Internet,
your service provider should be prepared to help you understand what
needs to be done.
Once your application has been approved and your name entered into
your name servers' databases, update the mail software on your system
and on your MX forwarder's system to recognize and use the new domain.
[A final note: Much of the information in this section about the DNS
system is sketchy. It is intentionally so, since all of this
information is available from a number of different sources, and they
cover it much better than I can here. If you are interested in
finding out more about how the DNS works, you are strongly urged yet
again to read the "How to Get Information About Networks" posting and
to follow up on the sources of documentation that it references.]
*************************
In addition to the resources already mentioned, there are several
books which discuss USENET and/or UUCP maintenance. They include
(these entries are culled from the "YABL" posting, by Mitch Wright
<mi...@cirrus.com>, in comp.unix.questions):
TITLE: Managing UUCP and USENET
AUTHOR: O'Reilly, Tim
AUTHOR: Todino, Grace
SUBJECT: Introduction
PUBLISHER: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
DATE: 1990
PAGES: 289
ISBN: 0-937175-48-X
APPROX_COST: 24.95
KEYWORDS: Nutshell Handbook
SUGGESTED_BY: Mitch Wright <mi...@hq.af.mil>
SUPPLIERS
E-mail: ... uunet!ora!nuts
Phone#: 1-800-338-NUTS
TITLE: Unix Communications
AUTHOR: Anderson, Bart
AUTHOR: Costales, Barry
AUTHOR: Henderson, Harry
SUBJECT: Communication Reference
PUBLISHER: The Waite Group
DATE: 1991
PAGES: 736
ISBN: 0-672-22773-8
APPROX_COST: 29.95
KEYWORDS: UUCP, USENET
COMMENTS
Covers everything the end user needs to know about email, USENET
and UUCP.
TITLE: Using UUCP and USENET
AUTHOR: Todino, Grace
AUTHOR: Dougherty, Dale
SUBJECT: Introduction
PUBLISHER: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
DATE: 1990
PAGES: 210
ISBN: 0-937175-10-2
APPROX_COST: 21.95
KEYWORDS: Nutshell Handbook
SUGGESTED_BY: Mitch Wright <mi...@hq.af.mil>
SUPPLIERS
E-mail: ... uunet!ora!nuts
Phone#: 1-800-338-NUTS
If you are going to be setting up a UUCP/modem USENET site, you will
probably find these books quite useful, especially if the UUCP
documentation that comes with the OS you're running is sparse.
*************************
Comments about, suggestions about or corrections to this posting are
welcomed. If you would like to ask me to change this posting in some
way, the method I appreciate most is for you to actually make the
desired modifications to a copy of the posting, and then to send me
the modified posting, or a context diff between my posted version and
your modified version (if you do the latter, make sure to include in
your mail the "Version:" line from my posted version). Submitting
changes in this way makes dealing with them easier for me and helps to
avoid misunderstandings about what you are suggesting.
Rich Braun <ri...@kronos.com> provided most of the information above
about registering DNS records, and provided other useful comments and
suggestions. j...@jshark.rn.com provided some very useful rewriting as
well as some different perspectives that helped to make the article
more general, as well as providing some specific information about
working in Europe, as well as providing other useful comments.
Anton J. Aylward <uun...@uunorth.UUCP>, Andy Brager
<an...@wndrsvr.UUCP>, Michael Bryan <mic...@resonex.com>, John Curran
<jcu...@nic.near.net>, Chris Davies <ch...@visionware.co.uk>,
Christopher Davis <c...@eff.org>, Nathan F. Estey
<nes...@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU>, Stuart Freedman
<stu...@orac.HQ.Ileaf.COM>, Dan Horner <lia...@uunet.uu.net>, J. Lee
Japp <jaa...@madams.larc.nasa.gov>, Ray.L...@Heurikon.Com,
jma...@sura.net, Mark E. Mallett <m...@mv.MV.COM>, Owen Scott Medd
<o...@msen.com>, Pushpendra Mohta <pu...@cerf.net>, Mark Moraes
<mor...@cs.toronto.edu>, Andrew Partan <a...@uunet.uu.net>, Brad
Passwaters <b...@sura.net>, Bob Rieger <bo...@netcom.com>, Rich Salz
<rs...@bbn.com>, Martin Lee Schoffstall <sch...@psi.com>, Doug Sewell
<do...@ysu.edu>, Barry Shein <b...@world.std.com>, Vince Skahan
<vi...@atc.boeing.com>, Jerry Sweet <j...@fernwood.mpk.ca.us>, David W.
Tamkin <dat...@vpnet.chi.il.us>, Christophe Wolfhugel
<Christophe...@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr> and Steve Yelvington
<st...@thelake.mn.org> provided comments and useful suggestions about
this article.
--
Jonathan Kamens j...@MIT.Edu
MIT Information Systems/Athena Moderator, news.answers
(Send news.answers-related correspondence
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En referencia a mensagem do Martins - LEITURA HISTORICA, eu gostaria
de deixar registrada minha opiniao sobre alguns pontos dos quais
discordo completamente.
Excluindo o carater historico do texto, eu nao entendo o que ele
tem de tao especial e/ou profetico. Os autores mostram uma visao
estreita e xenofoba do cinema americano equivalente a imagem que os
xiitas iranianos criavam dos EUA como o grande Sata~.
Dizer que o cinema americano e' materialista e sensual e' o
mesmo que dizer que brasileiro e' vagabundo. Uma generalizacao
infantil e desprovida de bases solidas.
O que dizer dos filmes de Allan Parker e Martin Scorcese?
Ou mesmo das peliculas de Woody Allen?
Quero ressaltar que nao morro de amores pelo american way of life
mas tambem nao vou tomar uma atitude unilateral do tipo: tudo que
vem de la' nao presta.
O que Monteiro Lobato e o sr. Nogueira nao foram capazes de
profetizar foi a existencia da Rede Globo. Esta e' uma ameaca muito
mais letal e mortal que entrando em todos os lares do Oiapoque ao
Chui vai destruindo coracoes e mentes.
Um pais que tem a Rede Globo nao precisa de Rambo para "destruir
a juventude e seus valores".
Esperando pela defenestracao,
Jailson <JLIMA@CLEMSON>
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1992...
60 anos da Semana de Arte Moderna,
30 anos da morte de Patricia Galvao...
E eu nao me surpreenderia se muitos de nos se perguntassem "Quem foi Patricia
Galvao?" [E, seguramente, nao seria eu a pessoa qualificada para responder aa
pergunta (Augusto de Campus, talvez)...] Mas e' inevitavel, em 1992, lembrar da
obscura (pelo menos na nossa "historia oficial"), libertaria, ingenua mas
perspicaz figura feminina de Patricia Galvao, tao radicalmente diferente das
mulheres do seu tempo. Hoje, quando assistimos (sem surpresa, e' preciso
reconhecer) o desmantelamento da Uniao Sovietica e frequentemente se discute a
"falencia do comunismo", e' interessante (re)descobrir, por exemplo, o que
disse Pagu (em Verdade e Liberdade, 1950), em referencia aas impressoes que
obtivera na viagem, em 1934 (sic) aa URSS:
"... o ideal ruiu, na Russia, diante da infancia miseravel das sarjetas,
os pes descalcos e os olhos agudos de fome. Em Moscou, um hotel de luxo para
altos burocratas, os turistas do comunismo, para estrangeiros ricos. Na rua as
criancas mortas de fome: era o regime comunista."
Aaqueles que, por desventura, tenham sido privados do conhecimento da
trajetoria de Patricia Galvao, talvez seja apropriado esclarecer que ela fora
(alem de, ao lado de Tarsila do Amaral, uma das "Musas" do Modernismo), uma
obstinada militante do Partido Comunista Brasileiro (e, possivelmente, a
primeira mulher prisioneira politica na historia nacional [e me corrijam os
que souberem melhor], tendo sido submetida a toda sorte de violacoes, como
ocorreria mais tarde com outras mulheres no ambiente carcerario do Brasil). Seu
depoimento, portanto, em nada se assemelha aa paranoica "vermelhofobia" que
com frequencia (ainda hoje!) se ve manifesta contra o regime sovietico. Ao
contrario, foi uma confissao de perda de fe', se assim se pode dizer, uma
manifestacao do "pessimismo da inteligencia" em oposicao ao "otimismo da
vontade".
Pagu via coisas que poucos viam. Era irreverente (de uma forma quase
infantil), incansavel na busca do Moderno, implacavel na critica ao retrocesso.
Era tambem narcisita (como talvez fosse inevitavel a uma menina-pagu daquela
epoca). Era imperfeita e cheia de erros... Mas Pagu via coisas que quase
ninguem via. E talvez a isso se referisse Raul Bopp quando escreveu:
"Pagu tem os olhos moles,
Olhos de nao sei que
Se a gente esta' perto deles,
A alma comeca a doer"
1992: ano do trigesimo aniversario da morte de Patricia Rehder Galvao!
("Ai, Pagu, eh
Doi porque e' bom de doer"...)
Pela memoria (que nao e' minha, mas do poeta)
dudi
PS:(... Se alguem ainda esta' por aqui...) Que tal iniciarmos mais um "jogo de
memoria"?
Eu acabo de sugerir a comemoracao, em 1992, dos 60 anos da Semana de Arte
Moderna e dos 30 da morte de Pagu... Minha proposta, agora, e' a seguinte:
facamos uma lista, com a contribuicao de todos, de fatos historicos brasileiros
que completam, em 92, uma ou mais decadas de ocorrencia. Evidentemente, devem
ser fatos que tem importancia (pelo menos pra quem os inclui na lista!). Penso
que o resultado pode ser muito interessante, pois com um grupo tao heterogenio
quanto a bras-net, pode aparecer de tudo. (O que torna a brincadeira, ao mesmo
tempo, instrutiva e divertida). Um breve comentario de esclarecimento sobre
fatos menos evidentes talvez seja recomendavel.
Sugestoes? Comentarios? (de preferencia para a rede, permitindo a
participacao de todo mundo)
dudi<mfa...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
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HISTORY OF ANGOLA: UPDATE
CAAS ANNUAL CONFERENCE 1992, Montreal, Canada
A series of panels on the history of Angola are being
organized for the next annual conference of the Canadian
Association of African Studies, which will be held in Montreal,
Canada, from May 13-16, 1992. They are: 1) themes in the
history of northern Angola; 2) themes in the history of Luanda and
its hinterland; 3) and themes in the history of central/southern
Angola. The objective is to produce a volume titled "History of
Angola: New Themes and Directions". Scholars working on the past of
this country are encouraged to participate. For further
information, please contact one of the organizers.
GROUP 1 GROUP 2 GROUP 3
John K. Thornton Jose C. Curto Linda Heywood
Dept. of History Dept. of Sociology Dept. of History
Millersville Univ. Univ. of Alberta Howard Univ.
Millersville, PA Edmonton, Alberta Washington, DC
USA 17551 Canada T6G 2H4 USA 20059
Angolan History Panels, CAAS 1992: List of
Participants, Jan. 6, 1992
Group I: Northern Zone
Susan Broadhead, USA: The 'Kingdom of Kongo' and the Portuguese
Colonization of Northern Angola, 1857-1915
John Thornton, USA: A Re-assessment of the Demographic Impact of
the Civil Wars and the Slave Trade in Kongo
Carlo Toso, Italia: Les autorites du Congo-Angola et les Capucins
Italiens, siecles XVII-XVIII
Jose Garcia Lumanizakio, Angola: Notas sobre parentesco e casamento
entre os Kongo de Angola - Caso dos Zombo da Provincia de Uige
Carlos Serrano, Brasil: Cabinda
Projecto KAPA KAPA, Angola: 3 representatives
Group II: Luanda and Interior
Manuel de Areia, Portugal: Le patrimoine culturel de l'ex-Companhia
de Diamantes de Angola, 1915-1975
Jose Curto, Canada: Recaptured Slave Runaways in Luanda and its
Hinterland, 1846-1876
Manuel E. Ferreira, Portugal: A industrializacao de Luanda no
Seculo XX
Beatrix Heintze, Germany: Refugees as a Historical Factor in the
Hinterland of Luanda in 17th Century
Cathy Skidmore-Hess, USA: Bones and Baptism: Symbols and Ideology
in the Career of Nzinga
Christine Messiant, France: assimilados catolicos e protestantes em
Luanda depois de 1945
Anne Pitcher, USA: Colonial Cotton Companies in Malange, 1932-1974
Vittorino Salvadorini, Italia: Los periodicos de Luanda, 1850-1900
Adelino Torres, Portugal: Conflits politiques dans la classe
dirigeante a Luanda dans les annees 1928-1930
Douglas L. Wheeler, USA: Towards a Biography of Agostinho Neto
1922-1979
Ilidio do Amaral, Portugal:
Jill Dias, Portugal:
Daniel dos Santos, Canada:
Group III: Central/Southern Zone
Grace Costa, Canada: Indigenous Responses to the Portuguese
Campaigns of 1890-1910 in the Humbe Region
Simon Katzenellenbogen, UK: Railways, frustrated ambitions and
local traffic along the line of the Benguela Railway
Joseph C. Miller, USA: Central Angola to 1840
Lawrence Henderson, USA: The Future of Angolan National Languages
as Influenced by Portuguese Colonial Policy
Linda Heywood, USA: The Evolution of a Political Ideology in
Central Angola in the Colonial and Post-Colonial Periods
Helena N.F. Mpovelo, Angola:
Jaka Jamba, Angola:
UNDETERMINED
Julio S. Braga, Brasil: Papel das culturas angolanas na formacao da
sociedade brasileira
Cynthia Hudgins, John Swales, and Liliane Viviani, USA: The New
Angola: Sonangol and the preparation of a US-trained graduate cadre
Luisa de Almeida Alegre, Angola:
Alfredo Margarido, Portugal:
Isabel Castro Henriques, Portugal:
Conditional on CAAS Securing Funding
W. G. Clarence-Smith, UK: Cocoa Production In Angola, 1890s to
1920s, with special reference to Cabinda
Maria C. Legot, Angola: Causas e Consequencias da batalha de Mbuila
em 1665
Luis Polanah, Portugal: Notas sobre a terminologia de parentesco
dos Jinga e Ambaca
Eva Sebestyen, Hungary: Land and Power through Ambundu Chief
Documents
David Birmingham, UK: Luanda in the 19th Century
Benghy A. de Fatima, Angola: Les plaies d'un colonialisme
silencieux: les sobados de Quicama, 1900-1970
Jean-Michel M. Tali, Congo: 'Tribalisme', 'regionalisme' et lutte
de liberation nationale: la question tribale et regionale dans la
dissidence au sein du MPLA dans l'Est angolais en 1972-1974
Patricia Hayes, UK: History of Southwestern Angola, 1880-1915
Adriano Parreira, Angola:
Rene Pelissier, France:
Rui Mangueira, Angola:
Oscar M.F. Guimaraes, Angola:
Rosa Cruz e Silva, Angola
Ana Maria Oliveira, Angola
Maria E. dos Santos, Portugal:
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Prezados bolsistas CAPES/CNPQ,
A fim de esclarecermos duvidas quanto a franquia de bagagem dos bol-
sistas da CAPES e CNPq, informamos o seguinte:
1 - A concessao de franquia esta limitada aos percursos voados EXCLU-
SIVAMENTE pela Varig/Cruzeiro. Deste modo, excetuam-se deste beneficio os vo-
os entre Brasil e Canada, Brasil e Inglaterra e vice-versa, quando operados
em equipamentos CP AIR e BRITISH AIRWAYS, respectivamente.
2 - Nas cidades de Londres, Paris, Roma, Milao e Zurich, os contatos
para efeito do beneficio do excesso de bagagem devem ser feitos com antece-
dencia minima de 72 horas antes da viagem. Nesse caso, a Gerencia Comercial
da Varig deve ser contatada. Outra opcao,porem com a mesma antecedencia, e
contatar a Gerencia de Vendas ou a CAPES em Brasilia. Tal antecedencia per-
mitira a Varig operacionalizar a concessao de beneficios, pois naquelas ci-
dades nao temos acesso direto nos aeroportos.
3 - Por ultimo, cabe registrar que nao ha concessao de beneficio "a
posteriori".
Cordialmente,
Bayarde V. de Camargo Filho
Gerente de Vendas - Varig/Brasilia.
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Olha a gente de volta pra contar pra voces as novissimas
novidades da nossa tao querida PA. Antes, um pedido de desculpas:
por burrice minha, passei o pedido de reinclusao na lista para a
rede, e nao para o request. Recebi uma bela cartinha do Berthier
mandando eu pedir ao request... Como diz aquele famoso locutor,
desculpem a nossa filh... perdao, a nossa falha. Mas vamos la'.
Manchetes e destaques da folha, terca 7:
GOVERNO DEVE PAGAR 147% A APOSENTADOS: continua a empolgante novela
governo x aposentados, mas parece que o governo vai dancar nesta (mas
no fim quem vai dancar e'a gente). O que acontece e' que um juiz do
Rio determinou o pagamento dos 147% aos aposentados retroativo a
setembro (porque o salario minimo, e portanto as aposentadorias de
de quem recebe um minimo, foi reajustado neste valor, outras aposenta-
dorias sendo reajustadas em torno de 60%). O presidente do Superior
Tribunal Federal decidiu ontem que nao tem competencia para julgar
o caso antes que o Tribunal Regional Federal do Rio o julgue. Como
o juiz determinou que o pagamento seja feito agora, e como nao ha'
nehum recurso do governo tramitando, o pagamento tem que ser feito
ja'. O governo vai recorrer ao TRF, mas deve perder porque o presidente
deste orgao ja' se manifestou favoravel ao pagamento. Quanto aos apo-
sentados de outros estados, eles precisam ainda ganhar nos respectivos
Tribunais regionais, mas agora a coisa parece mais facil. Parece. Esta
estoria esta' tao complicada que nao esta' 100% resolvida. Collor, Magri
Alceni Guerra e Marcilio Moreira se reundem hoje, pra que? pra que?
pra que? Acertou: para aumentar o imposto sobre os salarios, tanto a
parte dos empregados quanto a que e' paga pelas empresas. Segundo eles,
esta e' a unica maneira de se poder pagar ester aumento aos aposentados.
INDUSTRIA PAULISTA PREVE DEMISSAO DE 60 MIL EM 3 MESES: dificil saber
o que e' verdade e o que e' terrorismo. Mas realmente devem haver muitas
demissoes neste comeco do ano, porque o governo continua com a politica
de juros altos para combater a inflacao, e inicio de ano normalmente
e' fraco mesmo. A Associacao de Comercio de SP preve uma queda de 10%
nas vendas nos 2 primeiros meses do ano, em comparacao com o mesmo
periodo de 91. A recessao continua muito forte, e deve continuar assim
pelo menos ate' abril. Depois tem eleicao (municipais) e e' dificil
saber como o governo vai reagir a este fator.
ESCOLAS PARTICULARES TENTAM ATRAIR ALUNOS: com a falta de dinheiro,
muitas familias de classe media estao sendo obrigadas a colocar os
filhos nas escolas publicas (inclusive porque o aumento das particu-
lares superou, e muito, a inflacao ano passado). Isto esta' agravan-
ainda mais a ja' precarississima escola publica no pais. As escolas
particulares estao comecando a fazer promocoes, pra ver se conseguem
pegar de volta os alunos fugitivos.
SAUDE FEZ COMPRA DE VENENO SEM LICITACAO: se ao menos fosse pra colocar
no cafezinho servido numa reuniao ministerial... Devem existir pelo
menos 10 escandalo envolvendo o ministerio da saude, vamos ver se
algum vai dar em alguma coisa.
ATRASO DE OBRAS E" CAUSA DE INUNDACAO NO RIO: choveu pra burro na noite
de sabado para domingo no Rio. 23 mortos. Todo ano e' a mesma estoria:
chuvas terriveis em janeiro e fevereiro, desabamentos, enchentes,
mortes.
E a folha disse que o Piquet pode ir pra Ferrari, na vaga do Alesi.
Ontem foi dito que o Prost vai pra Benetton...
E' isso ai',
ze luiz, do rio
zeluiz@brlncc
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On Mon, 6 Jan 1992 14:36:48 -0800 Marco Jose Perlman said:
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>Eu agradeceria se o meu nome pudesse ser incluido na lista do
>soc.culture.brazil
>Obrigado
eu tambem.
muito obrigado.
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SINOPSE DE IMPRENSA
1992
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P O L I T I C A
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* DECISAO * Os 630 mil aposentados e pensionistas do Rio comecam a
receber hoje o salario de dezembro com a diferenca do reajuste de 147,06%,
retroativa a setembro. O Presidente do Supremo Tribunal Federal, Sydney
Sanches, se declarou incompetente para julgar um pedido de suspensao da
sentenca do Juiz Antonio Castro Aguiar, que determinara o pagamento.
Com isso, ja' a partir de hoje, os aposentados que ganham mais de um
salario-minimo comearao a receber a diferenca entre os vencimentos pagos
pelo INSS nos meses de setembro, outubro, novembro e dezembro e o reajuste
contestado pelo Governo.
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E C O N O M I A
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* AUMENTOS * O Departamento Nacional de Combustives autorizou ontem um
aumento medio de 22,3% para os combustiveis. No Rio de janeiro , o litro
da gasolina passou a custar Cr! 613, e do alcool, Cr! 478.
A General Motors reajustou ontem os precos de seus veiculos em indices que
vao de 10,4% a 12,9%. Com este primeiro aumento do ano, a montadora
completa 881% de reajustes no acumulado dos ultimos doze meses.
* A MAIS * A GAZETA MERCANTIL informa que ha' um excesso de moeda em
circulacao na economia nacional e dois ativos estao sendo beneficiados com
esta situacao: os titulos bancarios e as acoes. De acordo com o jornal,
os certificados de deposito bancario (CDB e CDI) acusam expansao de
estoque e giro superior a 40% no ultimo mes.
As bolsas de valores subiram ontem pelo terceiro dia consecutivo, com alta
de 11,5% e negocios de Cr! 85,5 bilhoes em Sao Paulo, enquanto no Rio a
valorizacao foi de 9,1%, com movimento de Cr! 43 bilhoes.
O ESTADO DE SP registra um grande numero de investimentos estrangeiros em
acoes na Bolsa de Valores de Sao Paulo - US! 1 bilhao previstos este ano.
* RECORDE DO ANO * O Brasil registrou, em dezembro, o maior saldo
cambial de 1991. A entrada liquida de divisas atingiu US! 2,1 bilhoes, o
que reforcou as reservas cambiais do Pais, informa O GLOBO.
O pior resultado foi obtido em setembro, quando o ingresso de recursos
totalizou US! 9,4 milhoes, segundo os dados apurados pelos bancos que
operam no mercado de cambio.
* PREVISAO * A industria paulista deve demitir ate' marco 60 mil de
seus dois milhoes de trabalhadores, caso permaneca o atual quadro
recessivo. A avaliacao foi feita ontem pelo Departamento de Economia da
Fiesp.
* FALENCIAS * Os pedidos de falencia do estado de Sao Paulo cresceram
199% no ano passado em relacao a 1990 e chegaram a 6.583 (o maior numero
em sete anos) - o setor mais atingido foi o comercio. Segundo calculos da
Serasa, empresa controlada por 90 bancos, 42% das falencias do Pais
ocorrem em Sao Paulo. (O ESTADO DE SP)
* EXPORTACAO * O Presidente Collor sancionou ontem nova lei das Zonas
de Processamento de Exportacoes (ZPEs), alterando suas normas de
implantacao: agora, toda empresa instalada numa ZPE devera' destinar sua
producao apenas para o mercado externo (a legislacao anterior permitia que
10% da producao fossem vendidos para o mercado nacional).
As ZPEs de Itacoatiara (AM), Barcarena (PA), Parnaiba (PI), Natal (RN),
Suape (PE), Joao Pessoa (PB), Caceres (MT), Rio Grande (RS) e Fortaleza
(CE) sao algumas das 14 autorizadas a funcionar no Brasil.
* PREVISAO * O ESTADO DE SP informa que a projecao para a Taxa
Referencial de Juros (TR) de janeiro caiu meio ponto percentual, ficando
em 26,5% - a projecao anterior era de 27%.
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* PRECOS * O JORNAL DO BRASIL informa que o cronograma de reducao
tarifaria definido pelo Governo ate' 1994 ameaca "frustrar" os usuarios,
porque os precos dos produtos de informatica importados nao estao
diminuindo na mesma proporcao que as aliquotas.
Como exemplo, o jornal cita o caso do monitor de video colorido padrao
VGA, que custa US! 350 nos EUA e US! 950 no Brasil - 171% a mais. O
imposto de importacao do monitor e' de 50%.
(JORNAL DO BRASIL, Negocios e Financas - pag. 7).
> From: IN%"wal...@m2xenix.psg.com" "Walter T. Morales" 7-JAN-1992 03:42:28.06
> To: IN%"bras...@cs.columbia.edu"
> CC:
> Subj: Como fazer a usenet...
...
> Para testar, se voce tiver acesso a unix na sua maquina tente;
>
> $rn brazil
> ou
> $nn brazil
>
> se os comandos forem recusados.... sorry you are out of luck!
>
Perdoe-me mas creio que somente estes dois comandos n~ao s~ao
suficientes. Como exemplo, eu n~ao tenho instalado estes citados programas
mas leio a soc.culture.brazil atravez do 'vnews' ou de dentro do emacs
com o gnus. Este e' apenas um comentario.
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From: Eduardo Martins <emar...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: RE: Poetas II
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Existe "Cronicas do Amor Louco" em video? Eu adoraria rever o filme (devem
fazer uns doze anos (!) que o vi, e adorei. Vi o titulo em ingles uma vez
mas nao me lembro... Quanto ao filme com o Mickey Rourke, sera' o BarFly? O
clima e' meio "Bukowskiano"...
Abracos,
Eduardo
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From: Eduardo Martins <emar...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: RE: programa tradutor de PC-L para Postcript
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu, mgu...@mips03.intel.com
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Mario,
Tente um FTP no SIMTEL20, ou wuarchive.wustl.edu. Sao provavelmente os
dois maiores "sites" de programas para IBM...
Eduardo
From: IN%"ADA...@ucs.indiana.edu" "Guta Davis" 9-JAN-1992 17:26:44.88
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From: Guta Davis <ADA...@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: 1992-decadas
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
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1972 - entrei na universidade, em Salvador, Ba, Dept. de Letras
(muito tempo depois...)
1982 - acabei meu mestrado em Linguistica na Universidade de Indiana,
Bloomington.
(agora...)
1992 - trabalho com historia(!), mexendo com computadores(?!...)
e... acrescentei tres filhos e dois maridos na minha vida. PODE???
(GU...@UCS.INDIANA.EDU)
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SINOPSE DE IMPRENSA
1992
08 DE JANEIRO
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PANORAMA DA IMPRENSA NESTA 4a. FEIRA
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P O L I T I C A
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* NOVAS MEDIDAS * O Presidente Fernando Collor convocou ontem,
extraordinariamente, o Congresso Nacional para votar, ate' o dia 31 de
janeiro, um projeto que muda a lei da Previdencia Social. O objetivo e'
tentar manter o equilibrio entre a receita e a despesa previsto no
Orcamento deste ano, que nao contava com um aumento de 147,06% para
aposentados e pensionistas.
No projeto, entre outras propostas, estao:
o Criacao de um novo desconto sobre o salario liquido de todos os
trabalhadores;
o Aumento dos atuais descontos dos salarios dos trabalhadores de 8%, 9%
e 10% para 11%, 12% e 13%, respectivamente;
o Criacao de um desconto de 7% sobre aposentadorias e pensoes;
o Aumento de 20% para 21,5% a contribuicao das empresas;
o Divisao em 24 prestacoes mensais dos pagamentos de reajustes que a
Justica ainda vai conceder;
o Desvinculo do aumento do salario-minimo ao reajuste da aposentadoria,
tornando-o semestral.
O Juiz da 11a. Vara da Justica Federal, Castro Aguiar, disse ontem que o
Governo "estava atras de um pretexto para aumentar as contribuicoes das
empresas e dos segurados".
No Rio, comecou ontem o pagamento da diferenca do reajuste de 147,06%.
Como o INSS atrasou o envio de carnes para os bancos, a maior parte dos
aposentados nao pode sacar o dinheiro.
* ARTIGOS * A FOLHA DE SP informa que os artigos que vem publicando
escritos pelo Presidente Collor repetem programa do Partido do Social
Liberalismo Brasileiro (PSLB), registrado em Brasilia no dia 23 de
dezembro.
O jornal afirma que o Presidente do novo partido se chama Ivan Pereira e
entre os fundadores estao cinco parentes da primeira-dama Rosane Collor. O
porta-voz Claudio Humberto diz nao conhecer o PSLB e garante que o
Presidente Collor escreve seus artigos.
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* NA LISTA * A Embraer sera' privatizada e o leilao para a sua venda
devera' ocorrer ate' o fim do ano. A revelacao foi feita ontem, pelo
Presidente da estatal, Ozires Silva, apos reuniao com o alto comando da
Aeronautica e a diretoria do BNDES.
O BNDES publica hoje, no Diario Oficial, o edital de venda de outra es-
tatal, a Petroflex, cujo preco minimo esta' fixado em Cr! 125,22 bilhoes.
* BOLSA I * Nos tres primeiros dias uteis do ano, a entrada de recursos
externos para investimento direto nas bolsas de valores chegou a US! 120
milhoes, ou US! 40 milhoes diarios. O volume e' recorde e representa o
dobro da media de aplicacoes ingressadas em dezembro ultimo por dia.
* BOLSA II * A Bolsa de Valores de Sao Paulo (Bovespa) bateu ontem seu
recorde historico em termos reais - descontada a inflacao - movimentando
Cr! 93,004 bilhoes.
A Bovespa acumula, nos quatro dias de pregoes deste ano, valorizacoes de
23,88% (apesar de ontem ter fechado com queda de 5,1%). Segundo a FOLHA
DE SP, a valorizacao esta' sendo puxada pela entrada de capital externo.
* EM ALTA * O custo da cesta basica, no municipio do Rio de Janeiro, em
dezembro, ficou 14,28% a mais que o salario-minimo. A informacao foi dada
ontem pelo Departamento Intersindical de Estatisticas e Estudos Socio-
Economicos (Dieese). A cidade mais cara do Pais em dezembro foi Sao Paulo,
seguida de Porto Alegre e Vitoria.
* NORMAS * A Receita Federal divulgou ontem as principais regras para a
declaracao anual do Imposto de Renda das pessoas fisicas, ano-base 91,
exercicio 92. A declaracao e' obrigatoria para quem acumulou em 1991
rendimento superior a Cr! 1,5 milhao.
A distribuicao dos formularios sera' feita nos postos de atendimentos e
nas agencias bancarias, a partir de marco - as declaracoes devem ser
entregues ate' o dia 27 de abril.
* NOVO INDICE * A Receita Federal tambem anunciou ontem as novas
normas de tributacao do mercado financeiro: a Taxa Referencial (TR) sera'
substituida pela Unidade Fiscal de Referencia (Ufir) como base de calculo
para apuracao do imposto devido a partir de agosto. (O ESTADO DE SP)
* LANCAMENTO * A NEC esta' lancando o primeiro micro portatil 486SX com
tela VGA (de alta resolucao grafica) que reproduz 256 cores, noticia a
FOLHA DE SP.
O laptop tem velocidade de processamento de 20 MHz, barramento EISA de 32
bits e custa US! 8,999 nos EUA.
(FOLHA DE SP, Informatica - pag. 6-1).
* RESERVA * A FOLHA DE SP noticia que acionadores de disco rigido e
disco flexivel (drives) estao fora da reserva de mercado para informatica.
A partir de fevereiro, estes produtos podem ser importados sem autorizacao
previa do Depin.
(FOLHA DE SP, Informatica - pag. 6-2).
* BRAILE * A TeleSensory lancou um equipamento para deficientes
visuais, o BraileMate: e' um computador de bolso com teclado em braile que
usa editor de texto interno, possui sintetizador de voz, pode armazenar
ate' 128 paginas de texto em braile e custa US! 1,6 mil.
(FOLHA DE SP, Informatica - pag. 6-2).
From: IN%"che...@gsusgi1.gsu.edu" 9-JAN-1992 17:31:01.32
To: IN%"bras...@cs.columbia.edu", IN%"jlima%cle...@gsuvm1.BITNET"
CC:
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From: che...@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Denise Curi)
Subject: RE: Leitura Historica????
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So isso: voce foi simples e direto, precisa mais???? Parabens e espero
que alguns leiam, pensem e reavaliem os seus conceitos.....
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Alo! Gostaria de participar da rede BRAS-NET e
receber assim noticias brasileiras. Meu nome eh
Gilberto Lacerda dos Santos, sou doutorando en
"Educational Tecnology" na Universidade Laval de
Quebec, Canada.
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Oi!
O colega Marcos Tulio me criou uma du'vida.Na ONU, como e' que esta' escrita a
plaquinha na frente do representante brasileiro ? Brazil ou Brasil ?
Um abrac,o ,
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From: IN%"E1....@ISUMVS.IASTATE.EDU" "ROSA FAGUNDES" 9-JAN-1992 17:59:46.70
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Por favor alguem sabe o endereco eletronico do IBASE, que fica
em Botafogo, no Rio de Janeiro?
Preciso me corresponder com uma pessoa no Rio que nao tem
computador nem modem em casa, e e' caso de doenca.
Pedindo mais favores, gostaria de saber como essa pessoa no
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Desde ja agradeco qualquer informacao,
Rosa
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From: nel...@pine.ece.utexas.edu (Jose Nelson Amaral)
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Volto de minhas ferias pelo Mexico com uma pergunta
que me foi formulada algumas vezes por amigos Mexicanos:
O Portugues e o Espanhol tem origens comuns? Como se deu
historicamente a diferenciacao entre as duas linguas?
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gostaria de sab er como a gente se inscreve nesta soc.culture.brazil
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Estou procurando um programa para traduzir gra'ficos do formato usado
pela Hewlett Packard nos seus printers LaserJet e PaintJet XL (se na~o me
engano chama-se formato PC-L ) para Postcript.
Existe um programa no Public Domain Software, escrito por Jef Posk(aner), que
faz a conversao em duas etapas:
PC-L --> PBM (posk bitmap) --> PS (postcript)
Na~o sei como ou onde obter esse programa. Se alguem puder me dar uma dica,
por exemplo, qual o computador (talvez do MIT) onde reside esse programa,
se pode ser copiado usando FTP anonymous, etc, agradeco penhoradamente.
Mario Guedes
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From: "Walter T. Morales" <wal...@m2xenix.psg.com>
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Hoje passou um programa "current affair" no qual, obviamente, colocaram
a nossa Xuxa no banco dos reus.
A xuxa esta querendo abrir espaco para um programa na tv americna, ofertas
ja existem varias, atualmente ele tem um programa na UNIVISION as 6:00 (?)
horas da matina (PST).... e as possibilidades sao grandes que ela vai
arrumar um cantinho em alguma emissora americana.
Os contras dizem que ela explora as criancas, seduz os "shorties" com suas
roupas extravagantes, e ate passou um pedacinho daquele filme onde ela
seduz o baixinho em sua carreira pre-pele'
Agora, a Xuxa cantando em espanhol ja e uma tristeza, agora em Ingles?
Pelo menos seria um pedacinho do Brasil ou da cultura brasileira que
estaria entrando nos states, por pior que seja, pelo menos os gringos
vao ver que tambem temos loira e nao so indio e amazonas, quanto a gosto para
programas de tv !?!?
Abracos,
Walter
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From: IN%"rob...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk" "Roberto S. M. Barros" 10-JAN-1992 02:45:04.85
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Caros colegas,
Acho que este tipo de discussao e' totalmente desnecessaria por que nao
ha' grandes problemas.
1) O newsgroup foi criado porque atinge muito mais gente do que a brasnet
e porque pode desafogar o volume de e-mails da brasnet.
2) Coisa similar aconteceu com a comunidade interessada na linguagem de
especificacao formal Z (computacao) e esta' todo mundo satisfeito.
3) O procedimento correto p/evitar problemas e diminuir o numero de
e-mails (retransmissao) da Brasnet seria o seguinte:
-- Quem tem acesso ao newsgroup DEVE se desligar da Brasnet (nao ha'
sentido em ler a mesma coisa 2 vezes!)
-- Quem quer mandar uma mensagem, manda p/a Brasnet e esta automati-
camente vai p/o newsgroup.
-- Com uma periodicidade a ser estabelecida por alguem da Brasnet, uma
mensagem padrao instrui os leitores do newsgroup a mandar suas
mensagens p/o endereco da brasnet, de modo que quem nao tem acesso
ao newsgroup nao fica de fora de nenhuma discussao!
Simples, nao e'? (OK, sei que muitos dos brasneteiros vao discordar!)
Finalmente, eu particularmente acho o newsgroup muito melhor porque posso
ler o que quero, na hora que quero e sem perda de tempo (vou direto ler o
newsgroup que escolher). Alem disso, as mensagens da Brasnet (por e-mail)
ficam misturadas com as outras e-mail o que acho bastante chato, pois
prefiro ler todas as mensagens da Brasnet so' uma vez por dia!
Roberto Barros
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AOS COLEGAS DE "STOCKHOLM & COPENHAGUE"
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Caros Colegas
Meu nome eh Mauro OLIVEIRA, para os intimos Mauro Cabecao (nome artistico: BIG
HEAD), tres filhas, torcedor do Ferrim, nascido na Pacatuba, provincia da
Grande Fortaleza.
Estou terminando doutorado na Universidade Paris VI, numa tal de REDE de
computadores (aproveitando toda a experiencia cearense no assunto).
Estarei em Linkoping dia 15 & 16 de janeiro representando o laboratorio onde
trabalho (MASI) numa reuniao de um Projeto Europeu, bla, bla, bla...
Como o bilhete para o fim de semana tem tarifa reduzida, serei "obrigado",
a pedido do meu chefe (ainda estou naquela fase de medo de dizer NAO ao chefe),
a ficar ate domingo (15 de janeiro) ai pelas bandas do STOCKHOLM & COPENHAGUE
(gostaria de ir a Moscou mas estou sem granata e a mamae ja esgotou o que podia
emprestar).
Nao sou do tipo turista (ja conheco Itapipoca, Pacatuba, Gravata e Paris), mas
tenho um problema terrivel quando passo um fim se semana longe de Fortaleza e
sozinho (meu analista nao conseguiu resolver este caso porque ele mora na
praia de Iracema e tem o mesmo problema).
Considerando que sempre ando com o meu tan-tan (atabaque para os fariseus),
gostaria de saber se tem algum "paidegua" por essas cercanias que possa/queira
consumir comigo uma latinha de Pitu (que estou levando) neste week-end, ao
som de batucada e musica nordestina (em casa eu faco o maior sucesso!!!).
Nao tenho problema de hospedagem/alimentacao (por conta do Labo). Mas tenho
problema de passar um fim de semana sem musica. Meu sonho era ser "disk-jockei"
mas papai quis que eu fosse professor, para ele apresentar aos amigos (lembram
do tempo que professor era importante, pagava a vista, pegava taxi...).
Portanto, aguardo um ALO:
meu email --> m...@masi.ibp.fr
meu telefone --> 33 1 39 02 74 29 (podem ligar a cobrar)
Aquele abraco
A.Mauro
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From: Fernando <PROIETTI%JHU...@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu>
Subject: Charles Bukowski Parte III
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
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Tanho lido respostas (algumas enviadas
diretamente para mim) em relacao a comentario
que fiz sobre o nao conhecimento de amigos meus
(americanos) em relacao a obra de Charles Bukowski.
De inicio, devo ressaltar que minha amostra e
geografia, social e numericamente restrita de
modo que qualquer generalizacao em relacao
a populacao dos USA nao e cogitada.
A maioria de MEUS AMIGOS/CONHECIDOS ja ouviu
falar ou leu autores ja "Geracao Beatnick", como
Keroack, Ginzberg etc; o desconhecimento parece
especifico em relacao ao Bukowski (o espanto e ainda
maior quando pergunto sobre a obra do John Fante)
A proposito, Bukowski tem um belissimo poema
sobre a morte e doenca do John Fante, que
jogaria na rede em uma outra ocasiao.
Continuemos a conversar sobre os "malditos",
"degenerados"e geniais "ratos dos subterraneos".
Um abraco, Fernando
From: IN%"11002...@uwovax.uwo.ca" "V. Pillar" 10-JAN-1992 09:20:32.68
To: IN%"bras...@cs.columbia.edu"
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From: "V. Pillar" <11002...@uwovax.uwo.ca>
Subject: retorno ao Brasil
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Estarei voltando em breve ao Brasil (P. Alegre) levando muita
bagagem, aproveitando o fato de que pagar excesso sai mais barato
do que enviar os pertences por correio ou navio. O problema 'e que a
passagem na alfandega deve necessariamente ser feita no Rio ou Sao
Paulo, o que tambem implica em mover toda a bagagem do setor
internacional ao domestico. Segundo a VARIG nao 'e possivel
despachar a bagagem diretamente a P. Alegre.
Se alguem na rede ja tiver passado ou souber por/de experiencia
semelhante eu ficaria muito grato por relatos e sugestoes.
Valerio Pillar
pil...@uwovax.bitnet
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Muito obrigado a todos que enviaram o fax do CNPQ.
Se alguem precisar, estou a disposicao.
__________________________________________________________________________
Marcos Alberto Piani
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Cornell University
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From: IN%"mg...@research.att.com" 10-JAN-1992 10:42:30.43
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Subject: RE: XUXA XUXA
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Vi o Show da Xuxa (com minha filha de 4 anos (fa~)) domingo.
Notei uma coisa interessante. No show na UNIVISION (acho que
e' gerado de Buenos Aires) Xuxu e as Paquitas usam roupas menos
apertadas de que no show da Globo.
--Mauricio
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From: rkl...@fmgmt.mgmt.utoronto.ca (Ronaldo Klein)
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Aproveito a onda de recomendacoes de Videos bons para sugerir "Le retour
de Martin Guerre". Excelente questao de apropriacao indebita de identidade.
Gerard Depardieu no papel principal.
SDS
Ronaldo Klein
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#######################################################################
# A GUIDE TO THE LATIN-AMERICAN MAILING LISTS No. 24-P #
#######################################################################
Date: January 8, 1992
INTRODUCTION
You will find here electronic mail addresses and information that will
help you to locate and subscribe to the latin american mailing list of
your choice. The lists included here are mainly for professional or
other specific purposes. Mailing lists open for general discussion and
exchange of news are presented in a separate file.
You should write to the appropriate e-mail to subscribe or get more
information. Please, DO NOT SEND ME REQUESTS FOR SUBSCRIPTIONS! I do not
administrate any mailing list. Membership in these lists is subject to the
approval by their administrators.
Some lists use LISTSERVERS. This is mentioned in the Service line.
The name of the listserver is in parentheses next to the word Listserver.
If you don't know how to use a listserver, please refer to the simple
instructions at the end of this file.
The mailing lists listed here are non-commercial (free access) and one
member volunteers to administrate a list. For more information about the
regulations concerning electronic mail, please refer to the appropriate
documents in the public directories of your system or ask your system
manager.
In each entry of this guide, you will find:
1. the professional field and the region covered by the list;
2. a short description of its purpose and interests;
3. the type of list (mailing, listserver, etc.);
4. the e-mail addresses to contact the list;
5. the status to date (active-planned-unknown);
6. additional information, such as the dominant language or membership.
Please, send any corrections or additions to the address below.
Pedro Saizar
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The Ohio State University Internet: sai...@osu.edu
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INDEX
# Topic Region List name
01.1 Artificial Intell. Mexico, L.America IAMEX-L
02.1 Astronomy Latin America ASTR-O
03.1 Computer Science Latin America REDALC
03.2 Computer Science Chile CHILENET
03.3 Computer Science Puerto Rico SIRIAC-L
03.4 Computer Science Brazil COMP-NET
04.1 Health Science Latin America, USA PANET-L
05.1 Informatics Latin America ESLAI
06.1 Physics Latin America FISICA-L
07.1 Psychology The Americas IAPSY-L
08.1 Social Science Quebec RQSS
Appendix: Listservers
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P-01.1 ***** ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
1. Cultural/geographical region: Mexico, Latin America
2. Description: a listserver devoted to the exchange of ideas and discussion
of practical applications of AI. It is located at the Instituto Tecnologico
y de Estudios Superiores de Monterrey.
3. Service: listserver (IAMEX-L)
4. E-mail addresses:
-Subscriptions/information: (see additional information below)
-Messages to the members: IAM...@tecmtyvm.bitnet;
or: IAM...@tecmtyvm.mty.itesm.mx
-Administrators: J. M. Gomez Puertos (PL500368@tecmtyvm);
or: F. Careaga Sanchez (PL57961@tecmtyvm)
5. Status: ACTIVE
6. Additional information: students and researchers with some experience
the field are eligible for membership. To subscribe, please send e-mail
to one of the administrators asking for the registration form.
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P-02.1 ***** ASTRONOMY
1. Cultural/geographical region: Latin America
2. Description: a list devoted to exchange of information in Astronomy,
announcement of conferences, coordination of observations and related
activities.
3. Service: mailserver (ASTR-O)
4. E-mail addresses:
-Subscriptions/information: mail...@brfapesp.ansp.br;
or: mail...@brfapesp.bitnet
-Messages to the members: ast...@brfapesp.ansp.br;
or: ast...@brfapesp.bitnet
-Administrator: Augusto Daminelli (daminelli%iag...@brfapesp.bitnet;
or dami...@iag.usp.ansp.br)
5. Status: ACTIVE
6. Aditional Information: this mailsever works like a listserver
(see section 10.0). This list was created by the Sociedade Astronomica
Brasileira.
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P-03.1 ***** COMPUTER SCIENCE
1. Cultural/geographical region: LATINAMERICA, CARIBBEAN
2. Description: A list for the discussion on the creation and status of
latinamerican and caribbean computer networks. Its name is REDALC (Red
de America Latina y el Caribe).
3. Service: Listserver (REDALC).
4. E-mail addresses:
-Information/subscriptions: list...@frmop11.bitnet
-Messages to the members: ula...@frmop11.bitnet
-Administrator: Daniel Pimienta (ula...@frmop11.bitnet)
5. Status: ACTIVE
6. Additional Information: Membership about 150. Dominant language,
Spanish.
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P-03.2 ***** COMPUTER SCIENCE
1. Cultural/geographical region: CHILE
2. Description: A mailing list, based in Chile, for discussions about the
configuration of computer networks in that country.
3. Service: Listserver (CHILENET)
4. E-mail addresses:
-Subscriptions/information: list...@uchcecvm.bitnet
-Messages to the members: chil...@uchcecvm.bitnet
-Administrators: Enrique Olivares Canouet (eol...@uchcecvm.bitnet),
Victor Cid Sepulveda (vc...@uchcecvm.bitnet)
5. Status: ACTIVE
6. Additional information:
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P-03.3 ***** COMPUTER SCIENCE
1. Cultural/geographical region: LATINAMERICA, CARIBBEAN
2. Description: A list for the discussion on the implementation of the
Latinamerican and Caribbean Academic ans Scientific Computer Network and
SIRIAC (Academic and Scientific Informatic Resources Integrated System)
activities.
3. Service: Listserver (SIRIAC-L)
4. E-mail addresses:
- Information/subscriptions: LISTS...@ENLACE.BITNET
- Messages to the members: SIRI...@ENLACE.BITNET
- Administrator: Rafael Pirazzi R_PI...@ENLACE.BITNET
or R_PI...@RACIN.CLU.NET
5. Status: Active
6. Additional information: Dominant language, Spanish (full spanish
character set is supported). A list of nodes in Latinoamerica and the
Caribbean
of principal networks (nodes.list) is updated monthly and available from the
listserv using the command GET.
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P-03.4 ***** COMPUTER SCIENCE
1. Cultural/geographical region: BRAZIL
2. Description: A mailing list to discuss any topics of interest to the
brazilian computer science community.
3. Service: mailserver (COMP-NET)
4. E-mail addresses:
-Subscriptions: mail...@fpsp.fapesp.ansp.br
-Messages to other members: comp...@fpsp.fapesp.ansp.br
-Administrator: Tomasz Kowaltowski (tom...@dcc.unicamp.ansp.br)
5. Status: ACTIVE
6. Additional information:
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P-04.1 ***** HEALTH SCIENCES
1. Cultural/geographical region: LATIN-AMERICA, U.S.A.
2. Description: This list is intended to provide a forum for the
sharing of information and discussion within the academic health
professions and among those seeking "Health for All in the Year 2000".
3. Service: listserver (PANET-L)
4. E-mail adresses:
-Subscriptions: list...@yalevm.bitnet
-Messages to other members: pan...@yalevm.bitnet
-Administrators: Dr. Art St. George (STGE...@UNMB.BITNET)
5. Status: ACTIVE
6. Dominant language: English, although some information appears in
Spanish. Membership is open to all nationalities and health care
disciplines, although emphasis is on Latin America and the field of
medicine. The Listserver is a collaborative effort between the Health
Manpower Development Office (HSM) of the Pan American Health Organization
and the Panamerican Federation of Associations of Medical Schools
(PAFAMS).
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P-05.1 ***** PROFESSIONALS: INFORMATICS
1. Cultural/geographical region: Latin America
2. Description: a list devoted to exchange of information between the
graduates and people close to the ESLAI (Escuela Superior
LatinoAmericana de Informatica).
3. Service: Mailing list.
4. E-mail addresses:
-Suscriptions/Information: man...@forwiss.uni-passau.de
-Messages to the members: es...@forwiss.uni-passau.de
-Administrator: Luis Mandel
5. Status: ACTIVE
6. Additional information: dominant language, spanish. Membership, about
40, by Apr 23, 1991.
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From: IN%"csc...@CHEMISTRY.umass.edu" 10-JAN-1992 12:09:07.67
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From: Fernando <PROIETTI%JHU...@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu>
Subject: Charles Bukowski Parte IV
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Apesar do subject title esta nao e sobre o Bukowski:
alguem citou dois filmes do Jarmush que eu ja vi
"Down by law" e "Stranger than Paradise", assisti
tambem a um terceiro chamado "Mystery train".
A pergunta e: alguem conhece outros filmes
dirigidos por ele ?
Um abraco a todos, Fernando
From: IN%"pa...@math.berkeley.edu" 10-JAN-1992 14:07:29.89
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Subject: VARIG old crash.
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Alguem ai na rede se lembra (mesmo que seja aproximado) a data do ultimo
crash da VARIG ? Me parece que foi aquele na costa Oeste da Africa.
Paulo de Souza
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From: IN%"SC0...@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU" "Timmons" 10-JAN-1992 14:47:40.80
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Caros Brasneteiros:
Li ha muito que o IBGE estava com falta de verba 'pra fazer o CENSO '90
(atrazado ate' o '91). Alguem fica sabendo se o improvavel aconteceu?
E tambem quando vamos ver os resultados publicados? Agradecou quaisquer
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From: IN%"r...@nextsun.INS.CWRU.Edu" 10-JAN-1992 15:14:16.96
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Ja que o pessoal da soc.culture.brazil estao dormindo e nao me mandaram uma
receita, vou pedir a bras-net:
Estou procurando por uma receita para feijoada que pode ser feita usando comidas
encontradas em supermercardos americanos.
Eu tambem gostaria de saber come e que farinha e chamada em Ingles. Alguem tem
ideia?
Obrigado,
- Roberto.
PS: Alguem lendo isto mora em Copacabana?
From: IN%"ZELUIZ%BRLNCC...@mvs.oac.ucla.edu" 10-JAN-1992 16:10:27.23
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Rapidinho, os destaques do JB, sexta 10:
GREVE IMPEDE 100 MIL NOVAS APOSENTADORIAS: os funcionarios do IBGE
estao em greve, com isto nao foi ainda divulgado o INCP de dezembro,
e o INSS nao pode calcular os beneficios dos novos aposentados.
Esta nao e' a 1a greve do IBGE nos ultimos tempos, ja' deu problemas
antes com reajuste de aluguel e outros babados.
EUA PREVEEM SUCESSO DO BRASIL EM 92: diz que a Salomon Brothers, maior
corretora americana, divulgou relatorio apostando numa virada da
economia brasileira em 92, e apontando extraordinarias possibilidades
(sic) para quem investir no mercado de acoes e da divida externa.
Pelo menos quanto a acoes, esta' ok: o aumento medio de investimentos
no ano que passou foi de cerca 2000%, contra os menos que 500% de{
inflacao.
MINIMO DESTE MES PODE PASSAR DOS 95MIL: a greve do IBGE tbem pode
dar problemas aqui, mas o governo deve arbitrar um indice para
reajuste do salario minimo caso o INPC nao seja divulgado em breve.
Se o indice for 23%, o salario vai para em torno de 95 mil (cruzeiros
claro). O IGP-M de dezembro foi de 22,14%, contra 25,76% de novembro.
Como este e' um indice que reflete aumentos no atacado, e' mais um
sinal que a inflacao deve na pior das hipoteses ficar estabilizada
em torno de 20-25% nos proximos 3 meses.
OCIOSIDADE CRESCE NA INDUSTRIA: preco pago pelo controle da inflacao.
Os metalurgicos do ABC so' tem estabilidade garantida ate' o fim
deste mes. Existe o temor de mais demissoes em massa, como aconteceu
no fim do ano passado com a Brastemp e a Cofap.
E' isso ai',
ze luiz, do rio
zeluiz@brlncc
From: IN%"mg...@research.att.com" 10-JAN-1992 16:16:08.35
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> Alguem ai na rede se lembra (mesmo que seja aproximado) a data do ultimo
> crash da VARIG ? Me parece que foi aquele na costa Oeste da Africa.
>
> Paulo de Souza
> des...@math.berkeley.edu
>
O voo da VARIG que caiu na Costa do Marfin foi em jan/85 se nao me falha
a memoria. Era um Boeing 707. Depois disso caiu aquele pensava que ia
norte qdo na verdade ia p/ sul e acabou a gosolina. Foi durante aquele
jogo do Brasil com o Chile pelas eliminatoria da Copa do Mundo,
qdo o goleiro chileno tomou aquele morteiro na cabeca. Isso foi
jul de 1989? FOi em Boeing 737.
--Mauricio
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From: IN%"bert...@PRAM.CS.UCLA.EDU" 10-JAN-1992 18:07:58.21
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From: bert...@PRAM.CS.UCLA.EDU (Berthier Ribeiro Araujo Neto)
Subject: Curriculo Eng Eletrica nos EUA.
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Lembro-me que algum tempo atras, alguem do Brasil pediu
auxilio ao pessoal da Bras-net e uma discussao foi iniciada
para levantamento e discussao de curriculo (incluindo Eng
Eletrica) em universidades americanas. Quem coletou a informacao
poderia por favor me informar das conclusoes que foram tiradas?
Foram coletados copias de curriculos de diversas universidades?
Estou especificamente interessado em Eng Eletrica.
Obrigado,
---- Berthier <bert...@pram.cs.ucla.edu>
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Prezado ZeLuis (do Hio) e colegas brasneteiros
Ao ler os teus comentarios (ZeLuis, do Hio) a respeito da opiniao da Salomon
Brothers sobre o desempenho [sic?] do Brasil em 1992, vai la' outro indicador.
A revista Times de 06 de janeiro tambem da a pista de uma recuperacao economica
da PatriAmada; nao com tanta esperanca tipo "velhinha de Taubate'", mas as
estatisticas estao indicando uma inversao do fluxo de capitais a partir de
1989. Ate este ano saia (e como!!) mais capital que entrava no continente
abaixo do Rio Grande (nem do Norte nem do Sul)-Texas. Para 1992 esta previsto o
dobro do fluxo de capitais entrado em 1991 na America Latina.
No mercado de acoes e' assim: compra-se na baixa para se lucrar na alta. Como
mais baixo de que esteve a PA em finais de outubro de 1991, com a indicacao de
que a inflacao estabilizou-se ou se retrai no inicio deste ano CONCLUI-SE que a
Salomom Brothers vazou a informacao certa. Ou seja, havera uma virada no
Brasil. Pago para ver.
Meus abracos ( a la "velhinha de Taubate") especialmente dirigidos aos amigos
que estao corajosamente retornando ao Brasil, especialmente a: Alexandre
(King-Cong), Gastao, Manoel (das Alagoas), Valerio (dos Pampas).
Roberto
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Por favor me desligar da "gloriosa" Bras-net. Hemar
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"A DIALETICA DO AG & AF" ou ..."AG EM 10 LICOES"
Autores: Neuman Maracanau e Mauro Pacatuba
===============================================
PART I
1) Introducao
In this paper nos discutimos a dialetica do AG & AF. Este tema data da
antiga Grecia quando os fariseus discutiam os rumos do Imperio Americano e
a sexualidade de Nero, fumando um continental sem filtro. Eh um trabalho
cientifico que envolveu varios pesquisadores da IBM de Itapipoca (caminho
da praia de Jericoaquara), resultando no questionario a seguir.
Palavras-chaves: chave de ouro, AG, AF
Obis 1: Nos, os autores, gostariamos de agradecer as esposas (as nossas)
pelo compreensao devido nossa ausencia do lar durante a realizacao deste
trabalho.
Obis 2: Este trabalho foi realizado no bar do MAX, em Versailles.
2) Questionario
1. SEU PROGRAMA DE SABADO A TARDE:
(1 ponto) --> Shopping Centre com a familia;
(2 pontos) --> uma brahma casco escuro naquele barzinho que a
patroa sabe onde fica;
(3 pontos) --> voce saiu sexta a noite e so Deus sabe onde voce anda;
2. ANIVERSARIO DE CRIANcA:
(1 ponto) --> voce sempre vai e curte bastante. Eh o maior barato!
(2 pontos) --> voce so vai por causa da antarctica estupidamente gelada
com os amigos;
(3 pontos) --> voce vai P da vida (quando vai) e fica sempre olhando pro
relogio, achando que vai dar tempo ir ao Castelao (Ferrim x Ceara);
3. VOCE E A SOGRINHA
(1 ponto) --> eh o que a galera do bairro chama de O CONCAVO E O CONVEXO;
(2 pontos) --> no natal voce da sempre um Palmolive verde (mas sem cartao);
(3 pontos) --> voce esta sempre viajando quando ela faz aquela visitinha
surpresa. Eh o cumulo da coincidencia!
4. O PIRATA
(1 ponto) --> voce ja ouviu falar deste bar no Guia 4 rodas e ACHA que fica em
Fortaleza, na praia do Futuro. Ou talvez na praia de Iracema, nao interessa!
(2 pontos) --> voce ja passou em frente, sozinho, teve vontade de entrar mas
achou que tinha muita gente conhecida. Voce nem desceu do carro. Alem disso
era segunda feira e terca eh dia de trabalho. Olha a responsa!
(3 pontos) --> toda segunda-feira voce confere, nunca sai antes das 4. O
Azeitona, o sanfoneiro, sempre toma uma com voce nos breaks e o Julio ja
pendurou ate cheque seu do BEC.
5. QUANDO VOCE CHEGA TARDE EM CASA
(1 ponto) --> suja as maos de graxa pra dizer que o carro deu o prego. Voce
nao quer confusao com a Patroa. Ave Maria!
(2 pontos) --> tira o sapato pra entrar, mas se flagrado justifica que era
aniversario do chefe. Nao podia decepcionar a turma!
(3 pontos) --> voce chuta a tampa, entra em casa mais brabo que o Kojak e
diz "amanha a gente conversa. Hoje eu nao quero papo"
6. VOCE TA PASSEANDO NO CALCADAO DA BEIRA-MAR COM A PATROA, QUANDO PASSA
AQUELA "DAMA DE VERMELHO"
(1 ponto) --> voce se comporta como se fosse um fato normal. A Patroa em
primeiro lugar. Tu eh doido seu menino! Olha a policia de lado.
(2 pontos) --> chama a atencao da Patroa para uma nova boutique e da aquela
olhadinha que voce tem direito (ninguem eh de ferro).
(3 pontos) --> voce da um tempo, diz que ta apertado e vai no banheiro do
Alfredo. Tenta passar o telefone pra gatinha atraves do Raimundin (aquele
garcon que lhe server o caldo das 5 da matina na volta do bar Academia).
7. VOCE TA NUMA FESTA DE SAO JOAO E EH PAQUERADO
(1 ponto) --> voce fica todo errado pois faz tempo que isso nao acontece.
No maximo voce da uma ajeitadinha no cabelo. E sai a procura da Patroa.
Tem gente "inxirida" em tudo que eh lugar!
(2 pontos) --> voce joga aquela conversa " sera que ja nao nos vimos
antes". Se flagrado pela Patroa, voce morre negando e ainda arranja
testemunha que a gatinha era filha de um amigo seu.
(3 pontos) --> voce leva a patroa pra casa alegando que a festa ta
cansativa pras criancas. Chegando em casa voce "percebe que SEM QUERER voce
esqueceu" sua carteira na festa. Voce volta pra festa, agora com o estado civil
diferente.
8. SOBRE MOTEL
(1 ponto) --> voce como membro da Associacao de Pais e Mestres do colegio
Marista se recusa a discutir o assunto. E ponto final!
(2 pontos) --> o assunto nao lhe apetece muito. As poucas vezes que voce
foi, o fez com a namorada que hoje eh a Patroa. Aplausos!!!
(3 pontos) --> eh a sua casa fora de casa. Sua unica reclamacao eh a fila
do "Love House" no sabado a noite. IAARRRHHHHUUUUUUU!!!
9. VOCE RESOLVEU RELAXAR E VAI AO CINE SAO LUIZ. MAS... OLHA SO QUEM TA NA
FILA: SUA PRIMEIRA NAMORADA QUE, POR SINAL, ACABA DE ROMPER COM O NOIVO.
(1 ponto) --> voce aconselha-a a reatar o noivado, da boas referencias do
nubente, disfarca e entra na farmacia Oswaldo Cruz.
(2 pontos) --> assiste ao filme ao lado da AGORA sua amiga e apazigua
dizendo que a vida e mesmo assim. Nada de avancar o sinal! Mas se ela
precisar de voce pra bater um papo pode telefonar (pro escritorio, claro).
Amigo eh pra essas coisas!
(3 pontos) --> convence-a a tomar aquele chope no barzinho do hotel Savanah,
concorda quando ela conclui que todos os homens sao iguais e declara
(depois do quarto copo) que seu maior erro foi deixa-la. Voce ainda simula
a procura do retrato dela na carteira (que naturalmente nao existe).
10. ESTA TUDO BEM COM VOCE: SALARIO EM DIA, PAGAMENTO DA MESBLA SO COM UM
MES DE ATRASO, O CHEFE SATISFEITO E A PATROA ATE FALANDO BEM DE VOCE NOS
GABINETES PRAS CUMADES. VOCE ATE LEVOU A PATROA AO "CANECANTO" PRA FESTEJAR
ANIVERSARIO DE CASAMENTO. MAS EIS QUE O ULTIMO "COINTREAU" MISTURA AS IDEIAS:
NO MEIO DA NOITE, EM PLENO ATO, VOCE CHAMA A PATROA DE JULIETA.
(1 ponto) --> Voce se recupera facilmente dizendo voce esta ensaiando uma
peca no escritorio e que voce eh o ROMEU da vida dela. Entao, ela diz "meu
Romeuzinho", voce responde "minha julietinha", tres vezes cada um. Eh bom
demais!
(2 pontos) --> Voce sente que pisou na bola. E como a melhor defesa e o
ataque voce parte pra cima dizendo que ela bebeu muito no Canecanto e ta
ouvindo demais. E ainda diz: "Nao venha colocar gosto ruim no nosso amor;
nao ligue pra DETALHES". Ai voce liga o "Roberto" que ja tava na agulha e
continua o que tava fazendo.
(3 pontos) --> Voce reconhece que a situacao eh delicada e para a qual voce
nao esta preparado. Voce nada diz nos primeiros 5 minutos. Entao conclui
que com a sua reputacao nao tem saida. Ela pense o que quiser. Voce pega o
travesseiro e vai dormir.
===================================================
PART II
3) AFINAL, VOCE E UM BRASNETEIRO AG OU UM BRASNETEIRO AF?
AF: Ambiente Familia, Formal, Fino, Filosofico, Fluminense, Ficcao, etc
AG: Ambiente Gaiato, Gatinhas, Geral, Gremio, Gitane, Garapa de cana, etc
10-13 pontos:
Voce eh o AF ideal. Voce nasceu AF, cresceu AF e vai pro Parque (da Paz)
AF. Voce eh aquele rapaz que toda mae pede a Santotonho pra sua filha. Voce
passou dois meses pra pegar na mao, casou de Veu e Grinalda com noticia no
jornal e lua de mel a moda antiga (aquilo so depois do casamento
religioso). Seu programa favorito e o Silvio Santos e voce nunca dorme depois
de 10 horas da noite.
14-17 pontos
Voce eh aquele AF que tem curiosidade na vida AG. Mas quando voce se
encontra num ambiente AG fica todo desconcertado e conclui que o seu
habitat natural eh o ambiente AF. Assistir filme de sexo explicito com a
esposa? Nem pensar. Voce mal consegue rir de piadas do papagaio se tiver
senhoras na roda. Voce tem o discurso mas nao se mistura. Quando voce vai
ao motel, passa antes em casa pra pegar o pijama.
18- 22 pontos
Voce eh antes de tudo um MURISTA. Voce nem eh AF, nem eh AG. E o que as
gatinhas chamam de um autentico Camaleao. Se o ambiente e AF voce esta bem:
pega a taca com o dedo minimo em riste, da aquele sorriso artificial pra
quem passa e aida diz pro Lucio que le todo dia a coluna dele na Tribuna.
Se alguem descobre que voce nasceu no interior, voce desconversa logo
dizendo que foi registrado no Morais Correa. Mas se o ambiente eh AG voce
tambem esta bem. Voce e capaz de atender o telefone da Patroa no escritorio
e dizer "Fala Coracao da minha vida", sentado no colo da sua secretaria.
Voce nao eh Pirata, nem Nautico; Voce eh o Mauro Benevides das noitadas.
23-27 pontos
Voce e AG em potencial. Voce tem tudo pra ser um AG, mas falta-lhe
estrutura. Voce e talvez um AG de fato mas nao de direito, voce pode ate
ser um AG legal, mas falta-lhe legitimidade. Conhece o Dr Baterico,
acredita nos astros e como dizia o janio, voce bebe porque e liquido, mas
nao fica de ressaca. Quando voce esta num ambiente AF sua coceira alergica
naquele lugar ataca logo. E se a Patroa faz aquele discurso de domingo a
noite depois do Fantastico, dizendo que voce ta bebendo muito e chegando
tarde em casa, voce contesta mas nao se livra do sentimento de culpa. Sua
segunda feira de manha eh um porre. A turma do escritorio que o diga.
28-30 pontos
Voce eh o AG medalha de ouro. E o homem da noite. No seu enterro vai tocar
samba e todas as namoradas estarao presentes (porque voce assim o quis)
para escandalo da familia, revelando em alto e bom som suas "qualidades".
Voce eh Rei da boemia. Seus idolos sao Nelson, Vinicius, Noel Rosa e Balzac.
Voce eh aquele cara que reconheceu cedo que depois de quatro horas no Romcy
Planalto, depois de todas as compras feitas, sem nada faltar, a Patroa
ainda diz: NAO GOSTEI DA COR DO PAPEL HIGIENICO.
4) CONCLUSAO
Dado o ser carater pseudo-estocastico o questionario apresentado neste
paper esta sujeito a erros e descuidos. O iluste Dr CDT do MIT (Maracanau
Instituto Technico) afirma que o questionario eh mais rigoroso quando
respondido pela Patroa. Neste caso a margem de erro do diagnostico varia em
torno de 5 por cento, em funcao dos seguintes aspectos:
- Voce nao esta em dia com os afazeres matrimoniais;
- A Patroa estava "naqueles dias" quando respondeu aos quesitos;
- Voce esqueceu a data do aniversario dela;
- Aquele Varnier prometido no natal passado ainda nao saiu.
Caso voce mesmo tenha respondido ao questionario e nao esteja satisfeito
com sua classificacao, nao hesite em nos contactar. Uma equipe de
psicodeguas esta a sua disposicao para tentar reajusta-lo dentro da
sociedade (de consumo).
Ps.: Os autores solicitam aos interessados que se dignem realizar seus
testes e encaminhar os resultados a m...@masi.ibp.fr .Os dados, uma vez
coletados, permitirao a conclusao deste trabalho de tese que visa
identificar o carater AGetico/AFetico dos Brasneteiros.
E o mais importante: PRIVACIDADE garantida. So a turma da Brasnet fica sabendo.
---> NAO TENHA MEDO, A PREVENCAO nao TEM REMEDIO <---
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Prezado(s) Senhor(es)
O objetivo desta mensagem eh o de informar-lhe a respeito
de um assunto que talvez possa ser de seu interesse, assim
como fazer contatos com o objetivo de estimular realizacoes
futuras para beneficio mutuo.
Em marco deste ano havera uma reuniao da OIS (Organizacao
Internacional de Standards) em Brasilia com o objetivo de
tratar sobre assuntos relacionados ao estabelecimento de
standards para 'computer user interface'.
Nesta ocasiao, estara visitando o Brasil, o president do
'ISO/IEC JTC1/SC18/WG9U User Interface Group', que visitara
o Rio e Sao Paulo, alem de Brasilia.
Em recente contato telefonico consultei o Dr. Nigel Bevan
a respeito da possibilidade de estabelecer contatos com
grupos profissionais ou pesquisadores, durante sua visita
ao Brasil. Sua resposta foi positiva.
Por isto decidi enviar esta mensagem a fim de divulgar o
assunto assim como produzir um canal de informacoes para
que algum eventual planejamento pudesse ser feito.
Caso a sua entidade esteja interessada em promover algum
encontro relacionado aos temas:
'Computer User Interface Standards' ou
'Computer User Interface Usability Assessment'
por favor envie uma 'e-mail' para: UK.AC.BBK.CU@UBJTP61
de forma que possamos estabeler um planejamento junto
com o Dr. Bevan.
Reproduzo abaixo alguns dados sobre o seu CV. Peco desculpas
pelo fato do texto estar em Ingles:
"Dr. Nigel Bevan is head of the Human-Computer Interaction
Section in the Division of Information Technology and Computing
at the National Physical Laboratory, Teddington, England.
He has worked at NPL for the last 15 years, developing
easy-to-use computer systems. The HCI section is currently
developing methods to measure the usability of computer
systems and diagnose usability problems.
Much of this work is part of the European ESPRIT MUSiC
Project: Metrics for Usability Standards in Computing.
This is a three years project which started in November 90
and is developing a modular method which can be used to
specify minimum requirements for the usability of a
product, and to assess whether a product meets those
requirements.
NPL is also active in disseminating the results of the
MUSiC project through the UK DTI Usability Now! programme.
Nigel Bevan is also an active participant in several ISO
standards groups which are developing user interface standards.
He chairs the ISO/IEC JTC1/SC18/WG9U User Interface Group
which is developing standards for icons and cursor control.
He is editor of a standard on Usability Principles being
developed by the Software Ergonomics group ISO TC159/SC4/WG5.
He is also editor of a standard on user interface for X.400
being developed jointly by ISO/IEC JTC1/SC18/WG4 and CCITT SG
VII, Q18. It is these last groups (responsible for the ISO/CCITT
standards on X.400) which are meeting in Brasilia as hosts of
the Brasilian PTT in March 1992".
***************************************************************
Por favor divulgue.
Formas de contato:
e-mail: UK.AC.BBK.CU@UBJTP61
correio: Flavio L. de Souza
Department of Psychology
Birkbeck College
Malet Street
London WC1E
England
fone: (071) 580.6622 ext.2534
fax: (071) 631.6270
From: IN%"3027donb%ucs...@hub.ucsb.edu" 10-JAN-1992 22:09:01.74
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Oi meus caros brasneteiros, havera uma conferencia
sobre "Unix and open systems" chamada Uniforum em
Sao Francisco, CA, 22-24 de janeiro. Se alguem estiver
interessado, eu tenho convites free. Mande uma mensagem
com o seu endereco para mim que eu mando o convite
pelo correio. Va bene?
By the way, em outubro eu postei uma mensagem parecida
com esta sobre a Interop. Houve dois colegas de Irvine
que responderam mas eu nao mantive os emails. Se voces
estiverem na escuta, me mandem novamente por favor. Tenho
interesse em conhecer os vizinhos. Obrigado
Abracos
Domingos
Domingos Begalli - dbeg...@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu - 390...@mcimail.com
C.Itoh Technology - Irvine, CA - 714-757-4429 - fax: 714-757-4423
From: IN%"TPOWER%IRIS...@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu" "Tim Power" 10-JAN-1992 23:58:20.46
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From: Tim Power <TPOWER%IRIS...@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu>
Subject: Crash da Varig 1989
To: BRAS-NET <bras-eu...@cs.columbia.edu>
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O crash do piloto Garcez na Boeing 737 foi na primeira semana de setembro
de 1989. Conheco uma das pessoas que estava a bordo. O aviao decolou
rumo a Maraba ou Belem, mas se nao me engano acabou caindo em Mato Grosso.
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From: NASSER Fernando Elyas Nobrega <nas...@ecf.toronto.edu>
Subject: RE: receita para feijoada?
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu, r...@nextsun.INS.CWRU.Edu
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Farinha de Mandioca = Cassava flour
Good luck,
Fernando
From: IN%"MAR...@ucs.indiana.edu" 11-JAN-1992 11:46:45.70
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From: MAR...@ucs.indiana.edu
Subject: RE: RE:receita para feijoada?
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Cuidado com o nome "cassava flour" para "farinha de mandioca",
pelo menos nos Estados Unidos. Has' dois tipos de farinha de
mandioca nas lojas especializadas daqui: uma delas e' uma fa-
rinha fina, semelhante `a farinha de trigo, e normalmente e' iden-
tificada como "cassava flour". Outra, mais parecida com a farinha
de mandioca brasileira (mas muito mais amarga), chama-se GARI e e'
um produto africano. Em alguns lugares, tambem aparece a expressao
"manioc flour", embora eu nunca tenha visto nenhum produto anunciado
assim na embalagem.
Outras informac,oes: para quem gosta de pao de queijo mineiro,
existe polvilho por aqui. E' importado da Tailandia e chama-se
TAPIOCA STARCH. Mandioca fresca, congelada, vinda da Costa Rica, chama-se
YUCA. Azeite de dende~ chama-se "Palm oil" e vem da Africa. Ha'
tambem JACA em calda, vinda da Tailandia, e chams-se JACKFRUIT.
Bon appe'tit,
Martins
Carlos Barichello
Minneapolis
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From: Eduardo Martins <emar...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: RE: Bukowski
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Ah, Tales of Ordinary Madness! Obrigado pelo titulo em ingles, vou ver se
esta' disponivel em video.
Eduardo
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Jailson,
Stanley Kubrick (o maior cineasta vivo!) e' ingles... Concordo com o
resto da lista, e incluiria Coppola e Spielberg. Sim, Spielberg! Ele
sabe fazer cinema como poucas pessoas, e demonstra total dominio da
linguagem cinematografica. ET tambem e' cultura!
Eduaro
From: IN%"GCO5031%TAMVENU...@mvs.oac.ucla.edu" 11-JAN-1992 17:23:50.31
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Noticas da F1.
Nao sei ate que ponto o que esta escrito abaixo e rumor ou
fato, de qualquer modo acho que os fans de F1 gostariam de saber
um pouco do que tenho visto ser discutido.
Ai esta a lista de times, motores e pilotos para este ano.
Como voces sabem nem tudo esta resolvido. Quanto aos brasileiros
so o Senna ja resolveu, fica na McLaren. O Piquet talvez corra na
Ligier e o Christian Fittipaldi talvez corra pela Minardi. Moreno
e Gugelmim aparentemente ainda nao assinaram com nenhum time.
Outra noticia interessante e a de que Piquet formou um time de
F3000. O time esta sediado em Senetterton, Inglaterra.
Carro Motor Pilotos
McLaren Honda V12 Senna, Berger
Williams Renault V10 Mansell, Patrese
Ferrari Ferrari V12 Alesi, Capelli
Benetton Ford HB v8-V12 Schumacher, Brundle
Ligier Renault V10 Boutsen, ?Piquet
Footwork Mugen V10 Alboreto, Suzuki
BMS-Dallara Ferrari V12 Martini, Letho
Jordan Yamaha V12 Modena, ?Zanardi
Lotus Ford V8 HB Herbert, Hakkinen
Larrouse Lamborghini V12Katayama, ?
Minardi Lamborghini V12? Morbidelli, ?Christian Fittipladi
Fondmetal ?
Incertezas
Tyrell Ilmor V10 ?, ?
Brabham Judd V10 Van de Poele, Nakaya
Leyton House Ilmor V10 ?, ?
Coloni ? ?Caffi, ?
Times que desistiram
AGS
Lamborghini
Alguns rumores seriam de que Prost guiaria pela Bennetton (nao
se sabe o que seria de Schumacher e Brundle) e Piquet iria para a
Ferrari, ja que a Ligier nao estaria disposta a pagar o salario que
ele exige. Neste caso o que seria de um dos pilotos da Ferrari
ninguem sabe.
Para quem ainda nao pegou ai vai a lista das corridas do ano.
A lista ainda esta sujeita a modificacoes.
Mar 1 --- Africa do Sul
Mar 22--- Mexico
Abr 5 --- Brasil
Maio3 --- Espanha
Maio17--- San Marino
Maio30--- Monaco
Jun 14--- Canada
Jul 5 --- Franca
Jul 12--- Inglaterra
Jul 26--- Alemanha
Ago 16--- Hungria
Ago 30--- Belgica
Set 13--- Italia
Set 27--- Portugal
Out 4 --- Europe(Espanha) - opcional, se nao houver o GP da Hungria
Out 25--- Japao
Nov 8 --- Australia
Abracos,
Guilherme Oliveira GCO5031@TAMVENUS
From: IN%"KZ...@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu" "Edval Santos" 11-JAN-1992 18:11:34.34
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Uma alternativa e' a farinha de milho, fabricada pela GOYA.
O nome e' MASAREPA. Na verdade, a farinha de milho e' tambem usada
pelo interior do nordeste. (Era a farinha preferida do meu avo~,
por exemplo).
Abracos
Edval, o sertanejo que esta' em NY
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From: dan...@DCC.UNICAMP.ANSP.BR (Daniel Tavares Correia Xavier)
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Ola' brastneteiros,
Estou emprestando a minha conta aqui na Unicamp para uma amiga que gostaria
de saber informacoes sobre cursos de pos graduacao (mestrado e especializacao)
na area de engenharia de pesca (marine science ou fisheries) principalmente
(mas nao exclusivamente) para Australia, Espanha, Nova Zelandia e
Noruega. Gostaria que quem tiver alguma informacao (ou saiba de alguem que
tenha) que me ponha em contato seja atraves de e-mail ou de endereco
convencional. Esta minha amiga e' formada em Engenharia de Pesca pela
Universidade Federal Rural de Pernambuco e atua no momento
nas areas de Oceanografia Pesqueira e Dinamica Populacional Pesqueira.
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e agradeco aos que me ajudarem.
abracos,
daniel
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LATIN'92
Latin American Theoretical INformatics
Sao Paulo, April 6-10, 1992
Conference Auditorium of the University of Sao Paulo
PRELIMINARY PROGRAM
(*=invited speaker)
Monday, April 6
9:00-9:30 Opening ceremony
9:30-10:45 Session 1: Claudio L. Lucchesi (Campinas)
9:30 Vaughan Pratt* (Stanford)
Arithmetic Logic Geometry Concurrency
10:20 Esther Jennings (Lund)
and Lenka Motyckova (Brno Inst. of Tech.)
A distributed algorithm for finding all maximal cliques
in a network graph
10:45-11:15 Coffe break
11:15-12:30 Session 2: Arnaldo V. Moura (IBM, Rio de Janeiro)
11:15 Paola Alimonti (Roma `La Sapienza'),
Esteban Feuerstein (Roma `La Sapienza' and ESLAI,
Buenos Aires) and Umberto Nanni (L'Aquila)
Linear time algorithms for liveness and boundedness in
conflict-free Petri nets
11:40 Anne Bruggemann-Klein (Freiburg)
Regular expressions into finite automata
12:05 F. Bossut and B. Warin (Lille)
Automata and pattern matching in planar directed
acyclic graphs
12:30-14:30 Lunch break
14:30-15:45 Session 3: Ricardo Baeza-Yates (U. Chile)
14:30 Gene Myers* (U. of Arizona)
Approximate matching of network expressions with spacers
15:20 Veronique Bruyere (Mons-Hainaut)
Automata and codes with bounded deciphering delay
15:45-16:15 Coffe break
16:15-17:30 Session 4: Eric Goles (U. Chile)
16:15 Alistair Sinclair (Edinburgh)
Improved bounds for mixing rates of Markov chains
and multicommodity flow
16:40 W. Fernandez de la Vega (Paris XI),
V.Th. Paschos (Paris I and XI) and R. Saad (Paris XI)
Average case analysis of a greedy algorithm for
the minimum hitting set problem
17:05 Felipe Cucker (Politecnica de Catalunya)
and Francesc Rossello (Illes Balears)
On the complexity of some problems for
the Blum, Shub & Smale model
Tuesday, April 7
9:30-10:45 Session 5: Joel Seiferas (Rochester)
9:30 Manuel Blum* (Berkeley)
Universal statistical tests
10:20 William I. Gasarch (Maryland)
and Katia S. Guimaraes (Maryland and Recife)
On the number of components of a recursive graph
10:45-11:15 Coffe break
11:15-12:30 Session 6: Walter Cunto (IBM, Caracas)
11:15 Joseph Gil (British Columbia) and
Yossi Matias (Maryland and Tel Aviv)
Leaders election without conflict resolution
rules---fast and efficient randomized simulations
among CRCW PRAMs
11:40 Said Bettayeb (Louisiana State), Bin Cong, Mike Girou and
I. Hal Sudborough (U. of Texas at Dallas)
Simulating permutation networks on hypercubes
12:05 Afonso G. Ferreira (Sao Paulo and Lyon)
and Siang W. Song (Sao Paulo)
Achieving optimality for gate matrix layout and PLA
folding: a graph theoretic approach
12:30-14:30 Lunch break
14:30-15:45 Session 7: Juhani Karhumaki (Turku)
14:30 Kosaburo Hashiguchi* (Toyohashi)
The double reconstruction conjectures about colored
hypergraphs and colored directed graphs
15:20 Jacques Sakarovitch (Paris VI and Blaise Pascal)
The "last" decision problem for rational trace languages
15:45-16:15 Coffe break
16:15-17:30 Session 8: Jayme Szwarcfiter (UFRJ, Rio de Janeiro)
16:15 Oscar Garrido (Lund), Stefan Jarominek (Warsaw),
Andrzej Lingas (Lund), and Wojciech Rytter (Warsaw)
A simple randomized parallel algorithm for maximal
f-matchings
16:40 Oscar Porto (PUC, Rio de Janeiro)
Even induced cycles in planar graphs
17:05 X. Zhou, S. Nakano, H. Suzuki and T. Nishizeki (Tohoku)
An efficient algorithm for edge-coloring series-parallel
multigraphs
Wednesday, April 8
9:00-10:15 Session 9: Imre Simon (Sao Paulo)
9:00 Aldo de Luca* (Roma `La Sapienza')
and Stefano Varricchio (L'Aquila)
Some regularity conditions based on well quasi-orders
9:50 Alair Pereira do Lago (Sao Paulo)
On the Burnside semigroups x~n=x~{n+m}
10:15-10:45 Coffe break
10:45-12:00 Session 10: Martin Grotschel (Berlin)
10:45 Daniel D. Sleator* (Carnegie Mellon)
Data structures and terminating Petri nets
11:35 M. Bern (Xerox, Palo Alto),
Herbert Edelsbrunner (U. of Illinois at Urbana),
D. Eppstein (U. of California at Irvine),
S. Mitchell (Cornell) and T.S. Tan (U. of Illinois
at Urbana) Edge-insertion for optimal triangulations
12:00-18:00 Excursion, barbecue or `feijoada'
(details to be announced later)
Thursday, April 9
9:30-10:45 Session 11: Jeff Shallit (Waterloo)
9:30 Jean-Paul Allouche* (Bordeaux I)
q-Regular sequences and other generalizations
of q-automatic sequences
10:20 Christiane Frougny (Paris VIII and Blaise Pascal)
How to write integers in non-integer bases
10:45-11:15 Coffe break
11:15-12:30 Session 12: Paulo Feofiloff (Sao Paulo)
11:15 Joachim Hollman (Royal Inst. of Tech., Stockholm)
On the computation of the Hilbert series
11:40 Mark Giesbrecht (Toronto)
Factoring in skew-polynomial rings
12:05 Jaime Gutierrez and Tomas Recio (Cantabria)
Rational function decomposition and
Groebner bases in the parameterization of plane curves
12:30-14:30 Lunch break
14:30-15:45 Session 13: Siang W. Song (Sao Paulo)
14:30 Michel Cosnard*, Pascal Koiran
and Helene Paugam-Moisy (Lyon)
Complexity issues in neural network computations
15:20 Eric Goles and Marcos A. Kiwi (U. Chile)
Dynamics of sand-piles games on graphs
15:45-16:15 Coffe break
16:15-17:30 Session 14: Jozef Gruska (Bratislava and Hamburg)
16:15 Rolf Niedermeier and Peter Rossmanith (Munchen)
Unambiguous simulations of auxiliary pushdown
automata and circuits
16:40 Nami Kobayashi (Sao Paulo)
Properties of recognizable M-subsets of a free monoid
17:05 Andreas Weber (Frankfurt)
Decomposing a k-valued transducer into k unambiguous ones
19:00 Symposium Dinner
Friday, April 10
9:00-10:15 Session 15: William T. Trotter (Bellcore)
9:00 Arjen K. Lenstra* (Bellcore)
Massively parallel computing and factoring
9:50 Svante Carlsson (Lulea) and Jingsen Chen (Lund)
Parallel complexity of heaps and min-max heaps
10:15-10:45 Coffe break
10:45-12:00 Session 16: Joachim von zur Gathen (Toronto)
10:45 Erich Kaltofen* (Rensselaer Polytechnic)
A decade of research on polynomial factorization
11:35 Denis Therien (McGill)
Circuits constructed with MOD_q gates cannot compute
AND in sublinear size
12:00-14:00 Lunch break
14:00-15:15 Session 17: Dominique Perrin
(Paris VII and Blaise Pascal)
14:00 Jean-Eric Pin* (Bull Research and Development)
On reversible automata
14:50 David A. Mix Barrington (U. of Massachusetts at Amherst)
and Howard Straubing (Boston College)
Complex polynomials and circuit lower bounds for
modular counting
15:15-15:45 Coffe break
15:45-17:00 Session 18: Janos Simon (Chicago)
15:45 Ulrich Hertrampf (Wuerzburg)
Locally definable acceptance
types---the three-valued case
16:10 Jose D.P. Rolim (Geneve)
On the density and core of the complexity classes
16:35 Daniele Beauquier (Paris VI and Blaise Pascal),
Michel Latteux and Karine Slowinski (Lille)
A decidability result about convex polyominoes
______________________________________________________________________
LATIN'92
Latin American Theoretical INformatics
Sao Paulo, April 6-10, 1992
REGISTRATION FORM
Name:_____________________________________________________ Title:_____
Affiliation
Department and Institution:_________________________________________
Position:___________________________________________________________
Postal address
___________________________________________________________________
Postal code:____________ City and state:___________________________
Country:________________
Phone: ( )__________ Fax: ( )____________ E-mail:_______________
Member of______________ (ACM, EATCS, IFIP, IEEE, CLEI, SBC, SCCC)
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REGISTRATION FEES
There are four classes of registration fees. Class 1: members of
Latin-American cooperating associations (CLEI, SBC, SCCC), program
committee members, and invited speakers. Class 2: members of ACM,
EATCS, IFIP, IEEE, and authors of accepted papers. Class 3: graduate
students. Class 4: all others.
Class Received until February 28 Received after February 28
1 US$100 US$150
2 US$150 US$250
3 US$ 30 US$ 50
4 US$240 US$400
For classes 1, 2, and 4 the registration fee includes a copy of the
Springer-Verlag Symposium Proceedings, a welcome cocktail, coffee
breaks, the Wednesday afternoon event (excursion, barbecue or
feijoada), and the Thursday night symposium dinner. For class 3, the
registration fee includes only the proceedings and coffee breaks. You
may purchase extra tickets for the social events: US$35 for the
Wednesday event and US$35 for the Thursday dinner. Please write
here ____ the desired number of extra tickets.
HOTEL ACCOMMODATION
The Symposium will be held at the Conference Auditorium on the
University of Sao Paulo campus. Participants will be accommodated
in the Poeta Drummond Flat (Rua da Consolacao 3101, between
Al. Franca and Al. Tiete, phones (55)(11)883-1522 and 883-3651,
fax 853-1086), some 7 km from campus. Check your preference
(single = single-occupancy apartment, double = double-occupancy
apartment):
Daily rate*
single US$45
double with 2 beds US$50
double with double bed US$50
half a double US$25
(*There is a very large surcharge on credit card payments)
In the last case you may specify your preferred room-mate:____________
_____________________. To secure your reservation, send twice the
appropriate daily rate.
Please specify your estimated date of arrival:_____________ and
departure:_____________. We encourage you to arrive in
the afternoon of April 5, and stay at least until the morning of
April 11.
TRAVEL AND WEATHER
Please let us know, by e-mail, your flight number and arrival time.
We shall make a serious effort to meet you at the Sao Paulo
International Airport (Guarulhos) if you arrive on April 5
afternoon or very early on April 6. You may also get a taxi at the
counter just outside the arrivals hall; a ride to the hotel should
cost the approximate equivalent of US$25 in cruzeiros. There is also
an express bus to downtown.
In the beginning of April the weather in Sao Paulo is usually warm
and humid, with average temperature somewhere between 20 and 24
degrees centigrade (68F to 75F). Clothes: light pants and a light
shirt should be generally suitable; it might be a good idea to have a
pullover (just in case) and a light rain-coat.
MAIL TO
Enclosed amounts: US$ _____ for registration, US$ _____ for hotel
reservation, US$ _____ for extra tickets to the social
events. Make your checks (one for each item) payable to Paulo
Feofiloff or Imre Simon. Send the checks, together with this form, by
registered mail, to
LATIN'92, IME-USP
Caixa Postal 20570
01498 Sao Paulo, SP
Brazil
Snail-mail takes about 10 days to reach Sao Paulo; do make use of
a courier service for a speedier delivery. We shall not be able
to make cancellation refunds after March 15, 1992.
While your registration is making its way to Sao Paulo, please
e-mail a transcript of the relevant parts of this form to
<lat...@ime.usp.br>. Our fax is (55)(11)815-4272 and our
phone is (55)(11)813-9499.
APPLICATION FOR FINANCIAL SUPPORT
You may apply for financial support to defray registration and
accommodation expenses partially. Our funds for this purpose are very
limited; preference will be given to graduate students from
Latin-America. This application must reach Sao Paulo by February 28
and does not exempt you from the registration fee or the hotel
reservation charge. We shall let you know by March 15 whether you will
be granted this support. In case the notification is negative and you
decide against coming, your registration fee and hotel reservation
charge will be refunded. To apply check here:____, and initial:____.
EXCURSIONS
(This is not an official part of LATIN'92)
The "Ambiental" travel agency (Av. Brig. Faria Lima 1684, lj. 40,
phone (55)(11)814-6191) is offering a variety of excursions after
the Symposium. Here is a sample (the prices are only approximate, and
credit cards are not accepted):
(i) 5 days in a bush resort in the heart of the Pantanal
region, an exuberant wildlife preserve, in a unique geological
formation, 3 hours west of Campo Grande: US$640.
(ii) 3 days in Rio de Janeiro: US$240.
(iii) 2 days in Foz do Iguacu, next to the Iguacu
Falls, a 70 m (230 ft) high falls at the point where Brazil,
Argentina, and Paraguay meet: US$210.
(iv) 4 days in Porto Seguro, a beautiful rustic
beach resort 1100 km northeast of Sao Paulo: US$290.
(v) 3 days in Parati, a centuries old sea-side
small town, some 200 km northeast of Sao Paulo, from
where you can reach several beautiful islands: US$200.
The prices include everything except the airfare from Sao Paulo to
the standard local airport; it is cheaper to buy the appropriate
tickets before coming to Brazil (you may consider buying an airpass).
Check here if you wish the travel agent to send you further
information on these and other packages.
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\centerline{\verylargebf Latin American Theoretical INformatics}
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\centerline{\largeit S\w ao Paulo, April 6--10, 1992}
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\centerline{\it Conference Auditorium of the %
University of S\w ao Paulo}
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\centerline{\largecsc Preliminary Program}
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\centerline{(*${}={}${\it invited speaker\/})}
\day Monday, April 6
\item{9:00--9:30} {\smallcsc Opening ceremony}
\sessionentry9:30--10:45 1 Cl\'audio L.\t Lucchesi (Campinas)
\entry9:30 Vaughan Pratt* (Stanford)
Arithmetic${}+{}$Logic${}+{}$Geometry${}={}$Concurrency
\entry10:20 Esther Jennings (Lund) and %
Lenka Moty\v ckov\'a (Brno Inst. of Tech.)
A distributed algorithm for finding all maximal cliques %
in a network graph
\cb10:45--11:15
\sessionentry11:15--12:30 2 Arnaldo V.\t Moura (IBM, Rio de Janeiro)
\entry11:15 Paola Alimonti (Roma `La Sapienza'), %
Esteban Feuerstein (Roma `La Sapi\-en\-za' and \break ESLAI, %
Buenos Aires) and Umberto Nanni (L'Aquila)
Linear time algorithms for liveness and boundedness in %
conflict-free Petri nets
\entry11:40 Anne Br\"uggemann--Klein (Freiburg)
Regular expressions into finite automata
\entry12:05 F. Bossut and B. Warin (Lille)
Automata and pattern matching in planar directed acyclic graphs
\lb12:30--14:30
\sessionentry14:30--15:45 3 Ricardo Baeza--Yates (U. Chile)
\entry14:30 Gene Myers* (U. of Arizona)
Approximate matching of network expressions with spacers
\entry15:20 V\'eronique Bruy\`ere (Mons--Hainaut)
Automata and codes with bounded deciphering delay
\cb15:45--16:15
\sessionentry16:15--17:30 4 Eric Goles (U. Chile)
\entry16:15 Alistair Sinclair (Edinburgh)
Improved bounds for mixing rates of Markov chains %
and multicommodity flow
\entry16:40 W. Fernandez de la Vega (Paris\t XI), %
V.Th. Paschos (Paris\t I and\t XI) and R. Saad\break%
(Paris XI)
Average case analysis of a greedy algorithm for %
the minimum hitting set problem
\entry17:05 Felipe Cucker (Polit\`ecnica de Catalunya) %
and Francesc Rossell\'o (Illes Ba\-lears)
On the complexity of some problems for the Blum, %
Shub \& Smale model
\day Tuesday, April 7
\sessionentry9:30--10:45 5 Joel Seiferas (Rochester)
\entry9:30 Manuel Blum* (Berkeley)
Universal statistical tests
\entry10:20 William I. Gasarch (Maryland) %
and Katia S. Guimar\w aes (Maryland and Recife)
On the number of components of a recursive graph
\cb10:45--11:15
\sessionentry11:15--12:30 6 Walter Cunto (IBM, Caracas)
\entry11:15 Joseph Gil (British Columbia) and %
Yossi Matias (Maryland and Tel Aviv)
Leaders election without conflict resolution %
rules---fast and efficient randomized simulations among %
CRCW PRAMs
\entry11:40 Said Bettayeb (Louisiana State), Bin Cong, %
Mike Girou and I. Hal Sudborough (U. of Texas at Dallas)
Simulating permutation networks on hypercubes
\entry12:05 Afonso G. Ferreira (S\w ao Paulo and Lyon) %
and Siang W. Song (S\w ao Paulo)
Achieving optimality for gate matrix layout and PLA %
folding: a graph theoretic approach
\lb12:30--14:30
\sessionentry14:30--15:45 7 Juhani Karhum\"aki (Turku)
\entry14:30 Kosaburo Hashiguchi* (Toyohashi)
The double reconstruction conjectures about %
colored hypergraphs and colored directed graphs
\entry15:20 Jacques Sakarovitch (Paris VI and Blaise Pascal)
The ``last'' decision problem for rational trace languages
\cb15:45--16:15
\sessionentry16:15--17:30 8 Jayme Szwarcfiter (UFRJ, Rio de Janeiro)
\entry16:15 Oscar Garrido (Lund), Stefan Jarominek (Warsaw), %
Andrzej Lingas (Lund), and Wojciech Rytter (Warsaw)
A simple randomized parallel algorithm for maximal %
$f$-matchings
\entry16:40 Oscar Porto (PUC, Rio de Janeiro)
Even induced cycles in planar graphs
\entry17:05 X. Zhou, S. Nakano, H. Suzuki %
and T. Nishizeki (T\h ohoku)
An efficient algorithm for edge-coloring %
series-parallel multigraphs
\day Wednesday, April 8
\sessionentry9:00--10:15 9 Imre Simon (S\w ao Paulo)
\entry9:00 Aldo de Luca* (Roma `La Sapienza') %
and Stefano Varricchio (L'Aquila)
Some regularity conditions based on well quasi-orders
\entry9:50 Alair Pereira do Lago (S\w ao Paulo)
On the Burnside semigroups $x~n=x~{n+m}$
\cb10:15--10:45
\sessionentry10:45--12:00 10 Martin Gr\"otschel (Berlin)
\entry10:45 Daniel D. Sleator* (Carnegie Mellon)
Data structures and terminating Petri nets
\entry11:35 M. Bern (Xerox, Palo Alto), %
Herbert Edelsbrunner (U. of Illinois at Urbana), %
D. Eppstein (U. of California at Irvine), %
S. Mitchell (Cornell) and T.S. Tan (U. of Illinois at Urbana)
\break Edge-insertion for optimal triangulations
\vskip2\jot
\item{12:00--18:00} {\smallcsc Excursion, barbecue or `feijoada' %
(details to be announced later)}
\day Thursday, April 9
\sessionentry9:30--10:45 11 Jeff Shallit (Waterloo)
\entry9:30 Jean-Paul Allouche* (Bordeaux\t I)
$q$-Regular sequences and other generalizations %
of $q$-automatic sequences
\entry10:20 Christiane Frougny (Paris\t VIII and Blaise Pascal)
How to write integers in non-integer bases
\cb10:45--11:15
\sessionentry11:15--12:30 12 Paulo Feofiloff (S\w ao Paulo)
\entry11:15 Joachim Hollman (Royal Inst. of Tech., Stockholm)
On the computation of the Hilbert series
\entry11:40 Mark Giesbrecht (Toronto)
Factoring in skew-polynomial rings
\entry12:05 Jaime Gutierrez and Tomas Recio (Cantabria)
Rational function decomposition and \break\hfill%
Gr\"obner bases in the parameterization of plane curves
\lb12:30--14:30
\sessionentry14:30--15:45 13 Siang W. Song (S\w ao Paulo)
\entry14:30 Michel Cosnard*, Pascal Koiran %
and Helene Paugam--Moisy (Lyon)
Complexity issues in neural network computations
\entry15:20 Eric Goles and Marcos A. Kiwi (U. Chile)
Dynamics of sand-piles games on graphs
\cb15:45--16:15
\sessionentry16:15--17:30 14 Jozef Gruska (Bratislava and Hamburg)
\entry16:15 Rolf Niedermeier and Peter Rossmanith (M\"unchen)
Unambiguous simulations of auxiliary pushdown %
automata and circuits
\entry16:40 Nami Kobayashi (S\w ao Paulo)
Properties of recognizable $\cal M$-subsets of a free monoid
\entry17:05 Andreas Weber (Frankfurt)
Decomposing a $k$-valued transducer into $k$ unambiguous ones
\vskip3\jot
\item{19:00} {\smallcsc Symposium Dinner\/}
\day Friday, April 10
\sessionentry9:00--10:15 15 William T.\t Trotter (Bellcore)
\entry9:00 Arjen K. Lenstra* (Bellcore)
Massively parallel computing and factoring
\entry9:50 Svante Carlsson (Lule\aa) and %
Jingsen Chen (Lund)
Parallel complexity of heaps and min-max heaps
\cb10:15--10:45
\sessionentry10:45--12:00 16 Joachim von zur Gathen (Toronto)
\entry10:45 Erich Kaltofen* (Rensselaer Polytechnic)
A decade of research on polynomial factorization
\entry11:35 Denis Th\'erien (McGill)
Circuits constructed with MOD${}_q$ gates cannot compute %
AND in sublinear size
\lb12:00--14:00
\sessionentry14:00--15:15 17 Dominique Perrin %
(Paris VII and Blaise Pascal)
\entry14:00 Jean-Eric Pin* (Bull Research and Development)
On reversible automata
\entry14:50 David A. Mix Barrington (U. of Massachusetts at Amherst) %
and Howard Straubing \break (Boston College)
Complex polynomials and circuit lower bounds for %
modular counting
\cb15:15--15:45
\sessionentry15:45--17:00 18 J\'anos Simon (Chicago)
\entry15:45 Ulrich Hertrampf (W\"urzburg)
Locally definable acceptance types---the three-valued case
\entry16:10 Jos\'e D.P. Rolim (Gen\`eve)
On the density and core of the complexity classes
\entry16:35 Dani\`ele Beauquier (Paris\t VI and Blaise Pascal), %
Michel Latteux and Karine Slo\-win\-ski (Lille)
A decidability result about convex polyominoes
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\centerline{\verylargebf Latin American Theoretical INformatics}
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\centerline{\largeit S\w ao Paulo, April 6--10, 1992}
\bigskip
\centerline{\largecsc Registration Form}
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number\fillup
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\beginsection Registration fees
There are four classes of registration fees. Class\t1: members of
Latin--American cooperating associations (CLEI, SBC, SCCC), program
committee members, and invited speakers. Class\t2: members of ACM,
EATCS, IFIP, IEEE, and authors of accepted papers. Class\t3: graduate
students. Class\t4: all others.
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For classes\t1, 2, and\t4 the registration fee includes a copy of the
Springer--Verlag Symposium Proceedings, a welcome cocktail, coffee
breaks, the Wednesday afternoon event (excursion, barbecue or
feijoada), and the Thursday night symposium dinner. For class\t3, the
registration fee includes only the proceedings and coffee breaks.
You may purchase extra tickets for the social events: \USS35 for the
Wednesday event and \USS35 for the Thursday dinner. Please write
here\gapof1.5cm{} the desired number of extra tickets.
\beginsection Hotel accommodation
The Symposium will be held in the Conference Auditorium on the
University of S\w ao Paulo campus. Participants will be accommodated
in the Poeta Drummond Flat (Rua da Consola\c c\w ao\t3101, between
Al.\t Franca and Al.\t Tiet\h e, phones (55)\t(11)\t883--1522 and
883--3651, fax 853--1086), some 7\t km from campus. Check your
preference (single${}={}$single-occupancy apartment,
double${}={}$double-occupancy apartment):
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In the last case you may specify your preferred
room-mate:\gapof5cm$\,$. To secure your reservation, send twice the
appropriate daily rate.
Please specify your estimated date of arrival {\gapof2.5cm}\enspace
and departure {\gapof2.5cm}$\,$. We encourage you to arrive in
the afternoon of April\t5, and stay at least until the morning of
April\t11.
\beginsection Travel and weather
Please let us know, by e-mail, your flight number and arrival time.
We shall make a serious effort to meet you at the S\w ao Paulo
International Airport ({\it Guarulhos\/}) if you arrive on April\t5
afternoon or very early on April\t6. You may also get a taxi at the
counter just outside the arrivals hall; a ride to the hotel should
cost the approximate equivalent of\t\USS25 in cruzeiros. There is
also an express bus to downtown.
In the beginning of April the weather in S\w ao Paulo is usually warm
and humid, with average temperature somewhere between\t20 and\t24
degrees centigrade (68${~{\rm o}}$F to\t75${~{\rm o}}$F). Clothes:
light pants and a light shirt should be generally suitable; it might
be a good idea to have a pullover (just in case) and a light
rain-coat.
\beginsection Mail to
Enclosed amounts: \USS\gapof1.5cm for registration, \USS\gapof1.5cm
for hotel reservation, \USS\gapof1.5cm for extra tickets to the
social events. Make your checks (one for each item) payable to Paulo
Feofiloff or Imre Simon. Send the checks, together with this form, by
registered mail, to
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{\LATIN}, IME--USP
Caixa Postal 20570
01498 S\w ao Paulo, SP
Brazil
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\smallskip
\noindent
Snail-mail takes about 10\t days to reach S\w ao Paulo; do make use
of a courier service for a speedier delivery. We shall not be able
to make cancellation refunds after March\t15, 1992.
While your registration is making its way to S\w ao Paulo, {\it
please e-mail a transcript of the relevant parts of this form to\/}
{\tt<lat...@ime.usp.br>}. Our fax is (55)\t(11)\t815--4272 and our
phone is (55)\t(11)\t813--9499.
\beginsection Application for financial support
You may apply for financial support to defray registration and
accommodation expenses partially. Our funds for this purpose are very
limited; preference will be given to graduate students from
Latin--America. This application must reach S\w ao Paulo by
February\t28 and does not exempt you from the registration fee or the
hotel reservation charge. We shall let you know by March\t15 whether
you will be granted this support. In case the notification is
negative and you decide against coming, your registration fee and
hotel reservation charge will be refunded. To apply check
here\t$\sqr$ and initial\gapof1.3cm$\,$.
\vfill
\beginsection Excursions %
{\rm(This is {\it not\/} an official part of {\LATIN})}
The ``Ambiental'' travel agency (Av.\t Brig.\t Faria Lima 1684,
lj.\t40, phone (55)\t(11)\t814--6191) is offering a variety of
excursions after the Symposium. Here is a sample (the prices are
only approximate, and credit cards are {\it not\/} accepted):
{\parindent=12pt
\item{$\bullet$} 5 days in a bush resort in the heart of the
{\it Pantanal\/} region, an exuberant wildlife preserve, in a unique
geological formation, 3\t hours west of Campo Grande: \USS640.
\item{$\bullet$} 3 days in {\it Rio de Janeiro\/}: \USS240.
\item{$\bullet$} 2 days in {\it Foz do Igua\c cu\/}, next to the
Igua\c cu Falls, a 70$\,$m (230$\,$ft) high falls at the point where
Brazil, Argentina, and Paraguay meet: \USS210.
\item{$\bullet$} 4 days in {\it Porto Seguro\/}, a beautiful rustic
beach resort 1100\t km northeast of S\w ao Paulo: \USS290.
\item{$\bullet$} 3 days in {\it Parati\/}, a centuries old sea-side
small town, some 200\t km northeast of S\w ao Paulo, from where you
can reach several beautiful islands: \USS200.
}
\vskip1\jot
\noindent
The prices include everything except the airfare from S\w ao Paulo to
the standard local airport; it is cheaper to buy the appropriate
tickets before coming to Brazil (you may consider buying an airpass).
Check here\t$\sqr$ if you wish the travel agent to send you further
information on these and other packages.
\vfill
\rightline{\ss PLEASE POST A COPY OF THIS FORM\/}
\eject\egroup\end
From: IN%"emar...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu" "Eduardo Martins" 12-JAN-1992 22:25:22.30
To: IN%"bras...@cs.columbia.edu"
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From: Eduardo Martins <emar...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Kubrick
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
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Acabo de descobrir que dei uma enorme gafe cinematografica ao dizer que
Stanley Kubrick e' ingles... Kubrick na verdade nasceu em New York City,
em 26 de julho de 1928. Praticamente toda sua obra foi filmada na
Inglaterra, onde ele reside desde 1961 (as excecoes de algum significado
sao Paths of Glory, de 1957, e Spartacus, de 1960). Minha admiracao pelo
cinema americano cresceu imensuravelmente depois dessa descoberta! Obrigado
ao Felipe por me chamar a atencao ao engano!
Eduardo
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Apaguei a mensagem de quem pediu mas aqui vai a
informac,ao:
As linguas oficiais da Organizac,ao das Nac,oes Unidas sao:
Chines
Espanhol
Frances
Ingles
Russo
As linguas de trabalho da Assembleia Geral sao:
Espanhol
Frances
Ingles
As linguas de trabalho do Conselho de Seguranc,a sao:
Frances
Ingles
(Martins)
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Caros Brasneteiros
Alguem tem ou sabe onde eu posso encontrar
um algoritmo para jogar domino ???
Um obrigado antecipado pela ajuda.
Marcos Livramento
emc...@brufsc.bitnet
Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina
Engenharia Mecanica
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From: jcw...@cat.syr.edu (Wang, Jiang Chau)
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Queria saber se alguem na Brasnet tem experiencia ou informacoes
a respeito de se levar o carro proprio de volta ao Brasil.
Alguem tem ideia das vantagens e desvantagens de se levar um
carro estrangeiro (no caso, japones vendido nos EUA)? Quais sao
os problemas tecnologicos (tipo de gasolina, pecas, etc), as
despesas (imposto, frete de NY State) e burocracia (nos EUA e
Receita no Brasil) envolvidos?
O problema todo eh que tenho um carro 89 que vendido aqui me
possibilitaria comprar talvez um 84 de volta ao Brasil (segundo
me contaram).
Peco que as resposta sejam para o meu email pois estou desligado
da bras-net hah algum tempo.
Mensagens para jcw...@cat.syr.edu ou
jcw...@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Obrigado e abracos a todos,
Wang Jiang Chau
Engenharia de Computacao
Syracuse University- NY
From: IN%"der...@csrd.uiuc.edu" 13-JAN-1992 11:55:26.51
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From: der...@csrd.uiuc.edu (Luiz A. DeRose)
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Para os que se lembram do filme ``2001: A Space Odyssey'', dirigido
pelo Stanley Kubrick, ontem 12/1/92 foi a data de nascimento do
supercomputador HAL 9000. Numa das conversas com um dos astronautas,
o computador diz:
``I became operational at the H-A-L plant in Urbana, Illinois on the
twelfth of January, 1992. My instructor was Mr. Langley.''
E' interessante notar que como o filme foi lancado em 1968,
a previsao da epoca, de que em aproximadamente 25 anos teriamos
um computador com o poder do HAL, foi muito otimista. Sera' que
nos proximos 25 anos chegaremos a alguma coisa parecida com o HAL?
A proposito, de acordo com Arthur Clarke, o autor do filme, o nome HAL
e' derivado de ``Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer'',
e nao IBM-1, como a maioria acha.
Abracos,
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U of I skyline, you gotta love the drive.
Luiz A. De Rose .
der...@csrd.uiuc.edu / \ (__)
Center for Supercomputing / U \ (oo)
Research and Development o o / o f \ o \/-----\ o
CSRD University of Illinois | | /| I |\ | ||___| * |
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/ / / / / / / / / / / / /
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Dear Folks,
I'm not sure if my request got through. I'd like to be added
to BRASNET. I am interested in Brazilian history and politics and
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From: IN%"issi!tsu...@cs.utexas.edu" 13-JAN-1992 14:20:29.52
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Talvez para o pessoal que esteja perto de Washington,DC:
Alguem poderia me informar o que significa ter visto B1? e B2? Qual a
diferenca?
E o que significa A2, o que meu amigo possue, e recebeu na
entrada aqui nos EUA sem limite de permanencia.
O que fazer com o passaporte renovado, que fica sem o visto de entrada
americano? Nao da' para dar uma saidinha ate o Canada ou o Mexico?
Agradeco muito.
--Jaime Tsuruta
Austin, Texas
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Sou estudante PhD na area de Biologia (Fisiologia
Vegetal) na Universidade de Dundee-Escocia e recem inscrito na
Bras-net.
Saudacoes aos colegas.
Gostaria de receber informacoes sobre a existencia de
outras redes em especial as ligadas a Biologia. Da mesma forma
um colega Iraquiano, Kurdo e veterano da guerra do Kuwait,
solicita referencias sobre redes equivalentes a bras-net no
"mundo" arabe. Ele merece ne?
Um abraco, Ricardo L.L.Berbara.
email: bs0...@uk.ac.dund.pb
From: IN%"FON...@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU" "Danilo Fonseca" 13-JAN-1992 14:41:43.43
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From: Danilo Fonseca <FON...@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject: Data de Nascimento do HAL
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Um acrescimo sobre a data de nascimento do HAL. No livro, Arthur Clark
mudou o ano para 1997. Me parece que o livro foi escrito simultaneamente
com a producao do filme.
Uma curiosidade. Li ha uns meses no newsgroup relativo a astronomia ou
espaco que a linguagem usada para programar os computadores dos onibus espa-
ciais da Nasa chama-se HAL. Nao sei qual o sentido dessa sigla.
Danilo Fonseca
<fon...@auvm.american.edu>
From: IN%"FFEP...@umiami.IR.Miami.EDU" "Dreams they complicate my life....(R.E.M.) Al Iriberri, Univ. of Miami" 13-JAN-1992 14:46:18.23
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From: "Dreams they complicate my life....(R.E.M.) Al Iriberri, Univ. of Miami"
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Mas por razoes ainda nao clarificadas eu nunca fui desligado da rede..
181 mensagems na volta, TODAS de Bras-Net.
Po gente....assim nao da, ne?
...bem.
O Brasil esta MUTIO mais violento :(, gracas a deus eu nao passei
por nada fora do comun (ate no Reveillon) mas algumas pessoas que
estavem cheios de usar o tranporte publico decidiram que queriam a nossa
Kadett. Em plena Av. Sernambetiba, de TARDE deram uma fechada no carro
dela e mostrando armas gritaram para minha mae sair do carro. Felizmente
ela nada sofreu (bem, um susto horrivel, sim..) mas o carro...tchau.
:(
E isso ai....o pais esta numa crise muito fundo.... *suspiro*
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From: IN%"iz...@cs.huji.ac.il" "Izar Tarandach" 13-JAN-1992 15:09:55.32
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In message <920113191...@shum.huji.ac.il> you write:
|antes de envia'-lo, e o "S" caiu justo diante do meu nome. Nao quero crer
|que "MarcoS" tenha sido gerado em funcao da placa que esta' na ONU, que
|provavelmente e' alguma especie de "Tabua Fundamental", origem das origens,
|pedra filosofal onde deve se basear todo conhecimento humano. Tampouco
Eu me pergunto se o colega ja' parou para pensar que o simples expediente de
ler e enviar e-mail, ou mesmo de poder gerar caracteres em seu monitor, se
deve unica e exclusivamente `a existencia do conceito de protocolo: um conjunto
de regras pelas quais a maioria se guia, visando um maior entendimento das
partes.O uso do Ingles em lugar do Portugues ja me parece bem estabelecido
como protocolo - apenas achei por bem levantar o detalhe. 'Too bad' eu deixei
meu dedo escorregar (estou muito mais acostumado a escrever 'Marcos' do que
'Marco' - perdao). Ah, em tempo: com razao o colega coloca que o erro foi do
meu news.manager: desde aquele ligeiro probleminha, eu sou o news manager.
Saudacoes, a todos.
--izar
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Favor de me desligar da bras-net. Obrigada <Kmarch@maine>
From: IN%"HAN...@SERVAX.FIU.EDU" 13-JAN-1992 16:57:33.56
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From: HAN...@SERVAX.FIU.EDU (DEAN HANSEN)
Subject: Intellectual Property Rights
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Recentemente um advogado me perguntou sobre as
novas modificacoes nas Leis de Propriedade Intelectual
brasileiras.
Se alguem puder ajudar com qualquer informacao ou
opiniao sobre como essas leis podem afetar os interesses
dos negocios estrangeiros no Brasil, por favor escreva
para:
han...@servax.fiu.edu
muito obrigado
Dean Hansen
Florida International University
From: IN%"emar...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu" "Eduardo Martins" 13-JAN-1992 18:06:33.27
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From: Eduardo Martins <emar...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: RE: domino
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Marcos,
Procure o livro "Computer Games II", editado por David N. Levy, publicado
pela Springer-Verlag. Tem alguns artigos sobre domino (e um monte de outros
jogos). Tenho o vol I, que cobre gamao, xadrez, damas e Scrabble, e e'
de excelente qualidade. Boa sorte,
Eduado
From: IN%"emar...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu" "Eduardo Martins" 13-JAN-1992 18:22:19.39
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Subj: RE: Data de Nascimento do HAL
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From: Eduardo Martins <emar...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: RE: Data de Nascimento do HAL
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O livro e o filme (2001) foram, como voce suspeita, produzidos simultanea-
mente. Kubrick aparentemente teve bastante influencia sobre a forma final
do livro. Clarke escreveu um livro sobre a producao do filme e do livro,
"The Lost Worlds of 2001". Leitura imperdivel para fans de Clarke e/ou
Kubrick!
Eduardo
From: IN%"zim...@godzilla.elcom.nitech.ac.jp" 13-JAN-1992 19:10:00.30
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Caros Brasneteiros,
Venho mais uma vez apelar para a boa vontade dos 'computeiros'
da rede para obter algumas informacoes. Gostaria de obter nomes de
laboratorios em qualquer pais que trabalhem com o topico :
Inteligencia Artificial - Linguagem Natural. Necessito alem do nome e
endereco de tais laboratorios, o titulo do trabalho em desenvolvimento e, se
possivel, qual o banco de dados utilizado, alem de qualquer outra informacao
que se relacione com o assunto. Os dados nao sao para mim, mas sim para um
amigo
que necessita destas informacoes com urgencia. Se alguma alma caridosa na rede
souber de algo a respeito ficaria imensamente grato!!!
Um produtivo 1992 p/todos!!!
Obrigado!
Alessandro Zimmer
Nagoya Institute of Technology - Japan.
e-mail:zim...@godzilla.elcom.nitech.ac.jp
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From: soli...@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU (oliveira suely p)
Subject: Santa Fe
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Alguem na rede perguntou sobre Santa Fe (NM). ????
Eu morei la durante o verao e outono ( na verdade estava em Los Alamos),
que e' perto de Santa Fe ( 40 mins).
Santa Fe e' um lugar super turistico, muito bom para se visitar por uns
dias, e' famosa pela opera ( tem um teatro ao ar livre que obviamente e'
fechado no inverno). Enta~o acho que a melhor opcao nessa e'poca e'
o ski. Nunca esquiei em Santa fe , mas ouvi dizer que e' muito bom, se
voce tiver tempo e puder ir ate' Los Alamos, la' tem uma are de ski
muito boa ( esquiei la esse inverno), a vista e lindissima. Tambem aproveite
para visitar o Oppenheimer museum, muito interessante, com muitas curiosidades
cientificas ( Los alamos e' onde a primeira bomba foi desenvolvida). A ida
a Los alamos vale a pena, pela importancia historica e fica em um canyon
incrivel!
Mas se voce nao tiver muito tempo e ficar em Santa Fe , aproveite para
visitar os restaurantes famosos : como o tomasita's ( comida mexicana
excelente,muito cheio nos sabados, fechado no domingo), La casa Sena ( no bar
anexo os garcons e grarconetes cantam opera ...tente pegar o horario antes ),
Rosedale's
( great seafood!), Pranzo's Grill ( comida italiana excelente).
Santa Fe tem tambem uma vida cultural muito intensa, muita arte (Navajo's
Jewelry, etc..), durante o verao os indios vendem os seus produtos no meio do
"plaza". E' la que todos os turistas vao, e onde estao os melhores ( e mais
caros hoteis). Ha various lugares com show de 'hispanic music' ( Ore house,
Eldorado hotel, etc... ), vale a pena checar...
Boa Viagem !!!!
com Saudades do Novo Mexico. Suely Oliveira.
e-mail: su...@monsoon.c3.lanl.gov
From: IN%"pir...@INFO.UCL.AC.BE" 14-JAN-1992 07:10:41.58
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From: pir...@INFO.UCL.AC.BE (Alain Pirotte)
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Desejo entrar em contacto com PeTistas da rede.
Obrigado.
Alain Pirotte e-mail: pir...@info.ucl.ac.be
University of Louvain phone: 32-10-47 8380
IAG fax: 32-10-47 8324
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From: NASSER Fernando Elyas Nobrega <nas...@ecf.toronto.edu>
Subject: RE: vistos de entrada
To: bras-eu...@cs.columbia.edu, issi!tsu...@cs.utexas.edu
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Quanto ao passaporte renovado e' muito simples: mantenha o antigo
grampeado (no final) do novo. O consulado NAO PODE reter o passaporte
anterior com vistos ainda validos. Se fizeram e' porque o funcionario
nao foi alertado por voce que havia vistos validos ou nao estava muito
bem informado a respeito.
Meu(s) passaporte(s) esta(o) deste jeito e funciona direitinho.
Eu me informei no Consulado dos EUA antes, e' claro.
Boa sorte,
Fernando (UofT)
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From: cro...@ohsu.EDU (Lidia Crosa)
Subject: Looking for Helio
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Does anybody know the E-mail address of Helio Takahashi (he works in the
Escola Paulista de Medicina).
Please answer to cro...@ohsu.edu
Thank you
Marcelo E. tolmasky
From: IN%"FON...@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU" "Danilo Fonseca" 14-JAN-1992 16:03:44.81
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From: Danilo Fonseca <FON...@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject: Iraque, um ano depois
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
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Passou no CNN, no ultimo domingo, o programa "Irak, one year after".
O pais esta sendo reconstruido, apesar do bloqueio economico. Mas a carestia,
a fome, a falta de remedios e de saneamento flagelam o povo iraquiano. Um
simples ovo esta custando o equivalente a $ 3, enquanto que um frango congelado
nao sai por menos de $60. Falta de tudo nos hospitais e farmacias, inclusive
antibioticos e aspirina. Ao contrario do que aqueles que bombardearam o pais
para liberar o Kwait (motivo secundario) e garantir o acesso ao petroleo (moti-
vo principal) pensaram, a maioria do povo parece gostar de Saddam. Todo
o odio da populacao parece ter sido dirigido contra uns tres paises que andaram
fazendo "bombardeios cirurgicos" sobre a cabeca do povo. Ha bastante aleijados
devido as bombas, muitos deles criancas. Os tais "bombardeios cirurgicos" nao
foram tao precisos quanto levaram a crer as imagenzinhas de video-game, libera-
das no ocidente apos sofrerem censura pentagonal. Um aviao, por exemplo, jogou
tres bombas em uma ponte sobre o Eufrates. Duas atingiram o alvo mas, uma ter-
ceira, caiu no meio de um mercado publico cheio de gente (I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
..). A tal fabrica de "baby-formula" era, de acordo com um programa, e por in-
crivel que pareca, apenas uma fabrica de leite para criancas. O abrigo que foi
bombardeado com um artefatozinho de 2 mil libras, matando sei la quantas crian-
cas, mulheres, etc..., tambem, segundo a reportagem, nao parece ter nada de
"alto comando" das forcas iraquianas (I'm sorry, I'm sorry...).
Enfim, Saddam esta corado e opressor como nunca, os riquinhos belicosos do
primeiro mundo vao bem, obrigado...Quem perdeu a guerra foram os de sempre. A
corda sempre rebenta do lado mais fraco.
Danilo Fonseca <fon...@auvm.american.edu>
From: IN%"geh...@bethel.edu" "Geho" 14-JAN-1992 16:07:26.93
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From: Geho <geh...@bethel.edu>
Subject: Lei da Informatica
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
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Caros Brasneteiros,
Estou precisando de algumas informacoes sobre a Lei da Informatica.
Em particular, gostaria de receber qualquer informacao sobre:
- o por que da lei
- quais foram as consequencias da lei no Brasil
- opinioes sobre o que vai acontecer em outubro
quando o mercado abrir de novo
Agradeco desde ja por qualquer informacao. Respostas podem ser enviadas
pro meu e-mail ou se achar que for de interesse pra rede, mande pra
Bras-Net.
Obrigada pela ajuda.
Bete
Bete geh...@bethel.edu
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From: IN%"MGSI...@utkvx.utk.edu" "Marcelo Godoy Simoes - Elec. Eng. UT" 14-JAN-1992 16:21:27.71
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From: "Marcelo Godoy Simoes - Elec. Eng. UT" <MGSI...@utkvx.utk.edu>
Subject: Seria hilariante, se nao fosse triste...
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Companheiros Redistas:
Hoje recebi uma "Carta aos Bolsistas e Demais Beneficiarios do CNPq"
emitida pela Associacao dos Servidores do CNPQ - ASCON.
Nessa carta os servidores do CNPq avisam que vao entrar em greve e
dizem todos os motivos do desmantelamento da politica de ciencia
e tecnologia em nosso pais.
Todavia, NOTEM BEM: A carta foi postada na Agencia Central de Brasilia
no dia 21 de NOVEMBRO de 1991!!!!
Ou seja, apo's a greve comecar e terminar, apos 52 dias, eu recebi a carta.
Nao sei se todos tiveram o mesmo atraso, mas parece que se a carta
tivesse vindo em lombo de burro teria chegado antes :>)
Talvez nao apenas o CNPq esteja com problemas, acho que todas as instituicoes
brasileiras, comecando nesse caso pelos correios.
Posso imaginar as pessoas que estao esperando documentos importantes, ou
respostas a consultas importantes (ate' ao CNPq), um atraso de QUASE
DOIS MESES e' inadmissi'vel!
Fica aqui meu voto de protesto ao "Estado Elefantal" (sic - Rogerio Magri)!
Marcelo
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I am sorry to bother by I am looking for the e-mail of: Prof. Jose' Dula , who
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Many Thanks!!!
Jose' Lage.
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Administradores:
Peco meu descadastramento (pelo velho motivo VPA(Volta a
Patria Amada)). Tentarei acompanhar a Brasnet de Porto Alegre. Para os
amigos fica meu novo e-mail address:
mu...@inf.ufrgs.br
Um abraco,
Ewerton Longoni Madruga.
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From: Resende <rodolfo%c...@hub.ucsb.edu>
Subject: iraque & reserva de mercado
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1. De acordo com o "Concise Earth Book", Earthbooks Incorporated,
Denver, Colorado ISBN 1-877731-02-1, o Iraque tem um indice de
alfabetizacao de 24%!! Talvez isto explique porque um Saddam Hussein
e uns "aliados" possam fazer o que tem sido feito da populacao.
2.Segundo noticias que andam aparecendo em varias revistas e jornais
(nao tenho as referencias) vazou a informacao de que
diversos sistemas de defesa Iraqueanos com tecnologia nao-nacional
(leia-se estadunidense) tornaram-se ineficazes durante a guerra
atravez da ativacao de certos "virus"... (Eu penso ca' comigo:
uma frequencia especial e' emitida e o sistema de radar deixa de
funcionar de maneira correta...).
3.Vamos todos colaborar para que o Brasil consiga educar a populacao
e nao tenha que se defender dos "aliados" usando equipamento "aliado".
Como ja foi falado, quem sofre nao sao os "aliados".
---Rodolfo
From: IN%"ecsvax!car...@uncecs.edu" "C. David Perry" 15-JAN-1992 00:09:01.40
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From: "C. David Perry" <ecsvax!car...@uncecs.edu>
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Nosso Institute of Latin American Studies esta pensando
em comprar um filme brasileiro "Luzia". Alguem tem
imformacoes, opinoes sobre esse filme? A descricao no
catalogo e "juicy": "Set on the vast and beautiful plains
of central Brazil, Luzia stars the alluring Claudia Ohana
as a cowgirl caught in a clash between squatters and the
powerful ranch owners. Luzia's extraordinary rodeo skills
and incredible beauty attract the attention of the landowners,
whose history of marauding returns to gain revenge (sic)."
David Perry
Chapel Hill, NC
EU
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From: "Roberto S. M. Barros" <rob...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
Subject: Problemas na retransmissao de mensagens p/o newsgroup s.c.brazil
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Aos responsaveis pela retransmissao das mensagens da brasnet para o
newsgroup Soc.culture.brazil, gostaria de solicitar solucao para os
seguintes problemas que estao ocorrendo com bastante frequencia, pelo
menos aqui em Glasgow:
-- Varias mensagens da brasnet estao chegando em uma mensagem unica
no newsgroup. Isto me impede de pular mensagens que nao me interes-
sam pois perderia as "outras" que estao concatenadas!
-- O subject e' sempre o mesmo: Brasnet (ou algo similar). O ideal e'
manter o subject original!
-- Antes de cada mensagem (da brasnet), veem varias linhas dando o
caminho de retransmissao da mensagem (x-envelope to .....), varias
vezes enchendo uma pagina inteira so' com isto!
Desde ja' agradece,
Roberto
From: IN%"rob...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk" "Roberto S. M. Barros" 15-JAN-1992 03:52:21.52
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Caros Brasneteiros,
Depois de minha mensagem anterior (09/01/92) sobre o newsgroup s.c.b.
recebi algumas mensagens perguntando como ter acesso a ele.
Para evitar escrever a mesma coisa varias vezes, resolvi colocar na
rede a copia (ligeiramente alterada) da e-mail que passei p/Olegario
Carvalho (o primeiro a perguntar, e que conseguiu resolver o problema!).
Ai vai:
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Voce nao precisa ser membro de nenhuma lista!
Tudo que voce precisa e' acessar o servico de news da USENET e selecionar
quais grupos voce deseja ficar lendo (supondo que a universidade/depto
em que voce esta' tenha acesso a USENET - o que deve ser o caso de muitos
dos leitores da Brasnet).
Se voce trabalha em ambiente Unix, basta dar o comando "rn" e ele
entra. "h" da' um help dos comandos disponiveis.
Procure saber com outras pessoas de seu departamento (ou a equipe de
suporte da maquina que voce usa) se eles tem acesso 'as news da USENET e
como acessar (se voce nao trabalha em UNIX ou se o "rn" nao funcionar).
OU SEJA, voce nao recebera' nada na sua E-Mail (como acontece c/a BRASNET),
voce acessa QUANDO estiver a fim de ler!
Roberto
From: IN%"we...@ohm.york.ac.uk" "Weber Martins" 15-JAN-1992 04:32:46.15
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From: Weber Martins <we...@ohm.york.ac.uk>
Subject: Poesia / Bukowski / Eu...
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Eu tambem quero contribuir se o assunto e' Poesia...
Mesmo sem conhecer 'bulhufas' de Bukowski, ando acompanhando
a discussao sobre a vida e a obra deste poeta... Se algum dos
admiradores do Bukowski quiser enviar algum poema para a rede,
desde ja' agradeco. Poesia tambem e' cultura e, para mim, e'
prazer principalmente.
Em nome deste amor pela Poesia, nao posso deixar de discordar
de algumas colocacoes do nosso grande manager, Marcelo Finger.
A bem da verdade, numa leitura superficial, a mensagem dele e'
ate' aceitavel, entretanto (como estou gostando do assunto,
Poesia) gostaria de aprofundar mais no que foi dito.
Antes, porem, quero explicitar um importante fato relacionado: na
rede dos argentinos, tem um sub-grupo chamado 'argentina-literaria'
que trata especificamente do compartilhar textos literarios...
Se alguem quiser formar tal grupo, ja' pode contar comigo...
Ele escreve, na mensagem entitulada 'Bukowski: Influencia pe-
dante':
>Eu considero Charles Bukowski uma influencia pedante para a literatura
>nao por causa da sua tematica, nao por causa da crueza (poetica) de seu
>estilo, nem pela linguagem que ele utiliza.
>
>A leitura esporadica de um ou outro conto ou poema de Bukowski me
>parece inofensiva, mas se o sujeito for atraido e se atirar dentro
>da obra dele, vai ser invadido pela utilizacao da primeira pessoa
>"ad nauseam". Bukowski e' um admirador do proprio umbigo, e nao quer
>deixar de se-lo e, nas suas propiras palavras, "foda-se todo o resto".
A utilizacao da primeira pessoa na Poesia nao e' uma ma' ideia... Na verdade,
so' conhecemos (e mal) o que esta' dentro de nos mesmos. As visoes que o
poeta tem da sociedade sao visoes pessoais antes de mais nada. Estruturar
todas composicoes poeticas em cima da primeira pessoa e' uma opcao apenas.
Outro ponto a se notar e' que o 'universal' se traduz muitas vezes como o
'super-pessoal', pois, em 'essencia', nos somos muito semelhantes...
Isto nao e' apenas fruto de minha experiencia pessoal, mas um fato consta-
tado (e divulgado) por varios poetas (inclusive 'Sao Drummond'...).
Quanto `a opiniao do Bukowski de que "foda-se todo o resto", em Poesia, e'
uma opiniao que eu admiro sinceramente. Fazer Poesia e' um processo muito
delicado para se pensar no leitor! O melhor modo e' deixar o que esta'
dentro se expressar do jeito mais claro e isto muitas vezes leva ao uso
da primeira pessoa... Colocar-se na pele de um negro, por exemplo, para
falar de racismo, usando terceira pessoa, e' um processo virtualmente
impossivel (para quem nao e' negro)... Sai do poeta o que o poeta tem
dentro dele mesmo... Tudo bem, e quem falou que temos apenas uma
'pessoa' dentro de nos? Concordo plenamente! Fernando Pessoa de-
monstrou isto muito bem em sua obra...
>...
>Tamanha estreiteza cansa, e o impacto de uma primeira pessoa crua
>perde a forca devido a repeticao, num fenomeno semelhante a destruicao
>de certas musicas nas FMs que, a principio, sao ate bonitinhas, mas
>depois de repetidas 7 vezes ao dia acabam se tornando insuportavies.
>
>Marcelo
Que a repeticao leva ao cansaco, isto eu ja' sabia...
Grande abraco e espero ler mais (sobre) Poesia na rede. So'
para finalizar, tem algum outro fa do Fernando Pessoa na rede???
Weber Martins
P.S.: E ai', Alvaro, voce conhece alguma coisa de Bukowski?
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bom dia,
quem fala eh o prof. antonio fernando, da universidade federal de
uberlandia. estou em fase de pos-graduacao, nivel de mestrado.
trabalho com instrumentacao. atualmente uso um programa de otimiza-
cao como ferramenta para o meu trabalho.
acontece que li um paper sobre outra tecnica e fiquei interessado.
quem sabe voces tem aih o programa em pauta. se for o caso, gostaria
muito que o mesmo pudesse ser repassado a mim.
trata-se do ggp: general geometric programming.
paper pra referencia:
int. j. numer. methodos eng. 9:149-168 (1975).
titulo: solution of generalized geometric programs.
autores: avriel,m.; dembo,r.; and passy,u.
desde jah agradeco a atencao dispensada.
atenciosamente,
prof. toninho.
departamento de eng. mecanica da ufu
e-mail : mstmec03@brufu
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Todos os paises do mundo tem mecanismos de protecao de mercado.
Inclusive os paises desenvolvidos, sem excessao.
No Brasil, muitas leis foram "inventadas" por quem tem Poder. Muitos
deputados, infelizmente, nao dependem de salarios. Eles ganham muito
"por fora" para representarem um grupo forte de lobbistas. As
multinacionais, como os da industria automobilistica, impuseram uma
"reserva de mercado" para eles proprios, onde somente eles poderiam se
beneficiar da fabricacao e comercializacao de automoveis. Existem
outros exemplos, como na quimica, farmacia, ...
A lei de informatica e' uma Lei Nacional onde se procurou defender a
industria nacional de fabricantes de computadores. Ora, todo mundo
sabe que os paises desenvolvidos sao poderosos, e se nao tivessemos
uma lei de protecao, nunca aprenderiamos a construir computadores.
Infelizmente, os Poderes sao fortes. Muitos brasileiros nao entenderam
bem esta lei. E "haja malhacao". Alem do mais, existem sempre os
aproveitadores, os chamados "espertos", contrabandeando e enfraquecendo
nossa industria.
As consequencias, apesar de nao serem tao boas, foi que muitos tecnicos
foram formados e estao aptos a absorver novas tecnologias nesta area,
que por sinal ainda anda muito veloz. A industria, apesar de ter se
desenvolvido razoavelmente, nao pode competir com novas tecnologias que
vao aparecendo a todo mes. Quando se consegue construir computadores de
8 bits, ja estao a 16, e quando se constroi os de 16, ja estao nos 32,
sem falar dos problemas com memorias e perifericos...
Em outubro, deve se extinguir a SEI-Secretaria Especial de Informatica,
o orgao nacional que "controlava" o que podia ser importado na area de
informatica, para nao acabar de vez com a industria brasileira. Deve
haver uma boa liberacao nas importacoes de "pecas" de computadores.
Lembre-se que o mercado estava protegido para os PEQUENOS
computadores. Os grandes sempre estiveram livres de importacao, apesar
de, por muito tempo, o governo americano nao permitir a compra de
super-computadores pelo Brasil. Assim, nao e' o caso de se abrir de
novo o mercado. O mercado sempre esteve aberto, principalmente para os
orgaos de pesquisa que sempre tiveram acesso as tecnologias de ponta de
paises estrangeiros.
Maiores informacoes podem ser obtidos no Congresso Nacional - DF,
e no Centro Tecnologico para Informatica -Campinas-SP.
--Jaime Tsuruta
Austin, Texas - USA
From: IN%"MGSI...@utkvx.utk.edu" "Marcelo Godoy Simoes - Elec. Eng. UT" 15-JAN-1992 11:04:06.21
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Companheiros Redistas:
Me lembro ate' com uma grande nostalgia da e'poca em que a reserva de
mercado estava para ser aprovada. Era entao um mero aluno da POLI, onde
meu professor Edson Fregni, era proprietario da Scopus e um dos baluartes
da defesa de mercado por razoes muitissimo e'ticas e condizentes com o
grande ser humano que ele sempre se mostrou.
(O prof. Fregni era uma grande personalidade na e'poca, homenageado
como engenheiro do ano em 1984, e em 1990 agraciado com um premio do IEEE-USA)
O pessoal de minha e'poca (inclusive eu) apostou e acreditou na reserva
de mercado como algo que colocaria o Brasil no grupo dos paises desenvolvidos.
As ofertas de emprego choviam: Scopus, SID, Itautec, Digirede e tantas
outras empresas nacionais... Quando eu me formei eu podia escolher entre
quatro ou cinco empresas...
O sonho acabou...
Nossos computadores nacionais sao caros, antiquados,
lentos, nosso desenvolvimento de software nacional caiu no mesmo abismo...
Hoje as empresas nacionais precisam de uma "joint-venture" para
sobreviver...
O Edson Fregni vendeu a Scopus para o Bradesco...
Soube que na turma da POLI que se formou agora em 1991 ha'
sessenta alunos SEM EMPREGO!
Culpa de quem? ("Depois que o boi foge a gente fecha a porteira...")
1)Dos empresa'rios? Nao os culpemos totalmente, infelizmente sempre houve
boas e ma's empresas em qualquer parte do mundo.
2)Dos politicos? Os quais nao souberam medir a extensao da reserva, dotar
a SEI de organismos a'geis, investir em ciencia e tecnologia COERENTEMENTE?
Esta' ai' uma das provas: o estado lastima'vel em que se encontra o CNPq
no Brasil... Bem, acho que os politicos estao mais preocupados com
suas reeleicoes e seus pro'prios salarios...
3)Do governo? O qual arrecada mais de 30% do faturamento de uma empresa?
Colocando os pratos na balanca (e eu sei disso pois ja' fui empresa'rio por
dois anos de minha vida, hoje sou apenas professor...), um empresario trabalha
de domingo a domingo, sempre preocupado com a sobrevivencia de sua empresa e
na contabilidade final o GOVERNO LEVA MAIS DINHEIRO QUE O PROPRIO EMPRESARIO
em IR, IPI, ICMS,INAMPS, e tantos outros I's da vida. Nao podemos ser
fatalistas e achar que tudo e' culpa do governo, mas que o sistema
brasileiro e' uma ME...diocridade isso e'!
4)Do povo? O qual nao tem emprego e prefere ser contrabandista, que
da' status e dinheiro certo e fa'cil? Nao totalmente, afinal cada um
esta' tambe'm preocupado em alimentar sua propria boca e dos filhos...
Fica aqui toda a minha nostalgia e acima de tudo meu sentimento de PENA
pela reserva de mercado de informatica nao ter surtido efeito que
os primeiros baluartes queriam. (Meus sinceros cumprimentos ao Edson Fregni).
Quem sabe se a reserva nao tivesse ocorrido no Brasil e sim num outro pais
teria dado certo!?
Marcelo Godoy Simoes
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Caros Brasneteiros,
Estou precisando de saber qual e' o valor do salario basico
de professor titular em universidades federais brasileiras.
Preciso destes valores para calculo de desconto do salario
no valor da mensalidade da bolsa do CNPq.
Por favor responda-me diretamente, pois nao estou na rede.
Desde ja', agradeco.
Robson JCF Afonso
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Quarta, 15, e a folha nos conta que:
COLLOR ADMITE ISOLAMENTO E PEDE AJUDA: o presidente fez ontem um dis-
curso na Embraer, motivo da comemoracao: a empresa entrou na lista
das que serao privatizadas. A culpa do isolamento, segundo ele mesmo,
e' o sistema presidencialista, que possibilita uma infinidade de
atritos entre executivo e legislativo, dificultando a aplicacao de
qualquer programa de governo. Fez uma defesa enfatica (sic) do
parlamentarismo. Uel, ha alguns meses atras foi votada a antecipacao
do plebiscito parlamentarismo x presidencialismo e monarquia x republica,
de setembro de 93 para abril deste ano, e ela so' nao passou porque
na segunda votacao do senado (emendas na constituicao precisam de
60% dos votos nas duas casas em duas votacoes) o governo, atraves
do Jarbas Passarinho, ministro da justica, bombardeou os senadores
com o famoso e' dando que se recebe. O isolamento de Collor se
deve porque ele fez tanta besteira no seu relacionamento com o
congresso que ele nunca conseguiu ter uma base de apoio parlamentar
suficiente para aprovar seus projetos. O isolamento em relacao
a sociedade vem da politica economica recessiva que ele esta'
aplicando, alem das mentiras contadas, tipo poupanca e' intocavel,
somado ao sentimento geral de impotencia que assola o pais, que
depois de ser o pais do futebol e do carnaval ta' virando o pais
do baixo astral. No discurso, Collor disse tbem que se os 147%
forem pagos aos aposentados a previdencia sera' "sepultada", algo
entendido por muitos como sendo uma indicacao de que isto pode
ser usado pelo governo para apressar a privatizacao da previdencia,
ja tentada no pacote de quase 50 emendas constitucionais propostas
pelo governo ano passado e que simplesmente foi varrido do mapa
no congresso. Collor apelou ao patriotismo de todos no seu pedido
de apoio: "se cada um de nos brasileiros tiver um coracao verde--
amarelo, tiver respeito aos valores maiores, se tiver amor por esta
patria, cabe aceitar este convite, esta reflexao para que nos pos-
samos nos encontrar num espaco comum".
PARTIDOS REJEITAM PROJETO DE AUMENTO DAS CONTRIBUICOES: Collor convocou
o congresso extraordinariamente para discutir um projeto de aumento
de contribuicoes para a previdencia, devido aos 147% dos aposentados.
Mas os lideres dos partidos devem empurrar o negocio com a barriga ate'
fevereiro, quando o STF julga em definitivo se os aposentados tem ou
nao direito de ter o mesmo aumento que o salario minimo.
COMPANHIAS AEREAS VAO CORTAR VOOS DOMESTICOS: deve diminuir em 20%.
E' a crise.
QUADRILHA DO RIO TIRA TRAFICANTE DA POLICIA: a policia prendeu o cara
no Chapeu Mangueira (Leme), mas foi perseguida, teve tiroteio em
plena Avenida Atlantica, e o meliante conseguiu escapar. No ultimo
fim de semana a policia matou um dos principais traficantes aqui do
Rio, que mandava na favela do Jacarezinho. Ele era o tesoureiro da
Falange Vermelha, a maior organizacao do trafico no Rio. A favela
parou (foi decretado pelos traficantes luto de 2 dias, nao cumpre
pra ver o que te acontece). E ja' mataram a mulher que eles achavam
que era quem tinha sido o dedo-duro pra policia.
PROPAGANDA DO INSS USA FALSO APOSENTADO: tem uma propaganda na tv
onde um cara diz (em off) uma porcao de mentiras bonitas sobre a pre-
videncia, enquanto a tela mostra um senhor de idade todo feliz. A folha,
que adora estas coisas, descobriu que o cara nao e' aposentado coisa
nenhuma, trabalha como fotografo lambe-lambe na rodoviaria de Brasilia.
Depois dessa e' melhor parar.
ze luiz, do rio
zeluiz@brlncc
From: IN%"RLAR...@mis.Arizona.edu" 15-JAN-1992 13:35:17.77
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Redistas,
Eu peguei ha' pouco tempo atras um programa shareware via FTP na biblioteca de
Washington, so' que o programa veio "zipado" (alguem sabe como traduzir isso?).
Alguma alma caridosa sabe onde eu poderia encontrar um programa UNZIP? Em
Washington tinha um mas nao funciona...Agradeco qualquer informacao a respeito.
Saudacoes do deserto,
Renata
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From: osiris!bra...@uunet.UU.NET
Subject: Precisando de traducoes ? Need translation services ?
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Boa tarde `a todos,
[portugues]
Tenho uma amiga brasileira que faz traducoes, tanto de portugues
para ingles, como ingles para portugues.
Ela tem mestrado de Ingles/Portugues e tem trabalhado profissionalmente
com traducoes desde 1971.
Ela tem um computador c/ modem e pode receber/traduzir/transmitir
suas traducoes.
Se estiver interessado ou necessitar mais informacoes, telefone para
(205) 830-2247, ou escreva para:
Eliane S. Koher
101 Marie Circle
Madison, AL 35758
[english]
I have a brazilian friend that translates portuguese to english as well
as english to portuguese.
She has a M.A. in English/Portuguese and she has been translating
professionally since 1971.
She has a computer and a modem and can receive/translate/send back your
translations.
If you are interested or need more information, please call
(205) 830-2247, or write to:
Eliane S. Koher
101 Marie Circle
Madison, AL 35758
[disclaimer]
If any grammatical or translation errors escaped me, blame me, not her.
Se algum erro de gramatica ou traducao me escapou, minha culpa, nao dela.
--
Osiris Pedroso
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From: IN%"jhles%conncol...@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu" 15-JAN-1992 15:18:37.64
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Alguem sabe a populacao do Brasil segundo os novos dados no
novo censo. Se tiver por estado, seria uma grande ajuda.
Muito obrigado companheiros brasneteiros
Jeff Lesser - JHLES@CONNCOLL
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From: "Sonny Dawsey, Geography, AU" <SDA...@ducvax.auburn.edu>
Subject: dados demograficos?
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Procuro saber se existe um "anonymous FTP" onde posso encontrar dados
sobre o Brasil, especialmente resultados de censos demograficos.
Obrigado por qualquer informacao. Abracos.
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From: IN%"ZELUIZ%BRLNCC...@mvs.oac.ucla.edu" 16-JAN-1992 10:46:16.45
To: IN%"VALLE%EVALUN1...@mvs.oac.ucla.edu" "J.V.F. VALLE", IN%"bras-net%BRFAPES...@mvs.oac.ucla.edu", IN%"lb...@ANDREW.CMU.EDU", IN%"id...@SYMA.SUSSEX.AC.UK", IN%"ACACIO%SUWATSO...@mvs.oac.ucla.edu", IN%"sai...@MD.TSUKUBA.AC.JP", IN%"LIMA%FN
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Quinta feira, quase uma da tarde, e eu com a impressao que o
mundo vai acabar em agua do outro lado da janela. Enquanto eu
nao morro afogado aqui, vamos 'as ultimas da folha:
COLLOR COBRA ALTERNATIVO DO CONGRESSO: o presidente do congresso,
Ibsen Pinheiro (PMDB) propos que o projeto de aumento da contribuicao
de empresas e empregados ao INSS, enviado semana passada por Collor
seja recusado, no que os lideres dos partidos concordaram, e deram
um prazo ate' quinta que vem para isto. Collor e Passarinho estao
cobrando que os deputados apresentam entao alguma solucao para os
Cr$ 11 trilhoes a mais que a previdencia precisaria. O condicional
ai' e' que ninguem acredita no governo, tanto que o TCU vai fazer uma
auditoria no INSS, para ver se ha' necessidade mesmo do aumento.
O Jarbas Paassarinho, este exemplo de probidade politica nacional,
ficou revoltadissimo quando o congresso nao aceitou as contas
apresentadas pelo governo sobre a previdencia (e' ai' que o TCU
entra na estoria). O Magri fez um check-up ontem em S.Paulo,
e deve se afastar das negociacoes sobre o aumento de 147% aos
aposentados. Ele disse que isto nao deve atrapalhar as negocia-
coes. E', pode ser ate' que ajude.
CORTES PODEM SUPERAR AS PREVISOES DA FIESP: comecaram as demissoes
em massa do inicio do ano. A Sharp mandou 1000 embora em Manaus,
E outras empresas tbem mandaram em numero menor. A Fiesp previa
em torno de 20 mil demitidos nos 1os tres meses do ano, mas ja'
se fala em um numero maior agora.
ACM AFASTA SECRETARIO APOS ASSALTO A ARGENTINOS: ACM e' o Antonio
Carlos Magalhes (Toninho malvadeza para os intimos). Um grupo de
argentinos chegou ao aeroporto em Salvador, pegou o onibus para
o hotel e foi logo assaltado, perdenro grana, roupas, tudo. O
malvadeza vai pagar o hotel, roupa, o escambau pros assaltados.
E o secretario de seguranca foi pra rua.
JANIO, 74, E" INTERNADO EM S. PAULO COM DESIDRATACAO: o ex-presidente
esta' doente ha' varios meses.
ACUSACAO PESA SOBRE CAPITU APOS 92 ANOS: e' a personagem feminina
de Dom Casmurro, do Machado de Assis (que, na minha epoca de colegio
era chamado de maischato de assis, pela garotada muito mais a fim de
ler Tereza Batista Cansada De Guerra e similares). O Otto Lara Rezende,
que escreve na folha, ficou p. da vida porque no vestibular da fuvest
teve uma questao em que dizia que Capitu poderia nao ter traido o
Bentinho. Se voce nao se lembra da estoria, o livro e' narrado em
primeira pessoa pelo Bentinho, que procura nos convencer que agiu
certo ao expulsar a mulher e o filho (dela, pelo menos) de casa.
Acusacao: ela o teria traido com um amigo. Prova: o garoto e' incri-
velmente parecido com o amigo. Eu sempre achei que o livro tratava
sobre ciumes e paranoia. Meu professor, que adorava o livro, dizia
ser impossivel responder 'a pergunta sobre a traicao, mas isso nao
tinha a menor importancia. O livro e' otimo, se nao leu, leia. E que
tal os entendidos do assunto se manifestarem na rede?
Se esta chegar aos pedacos por ai', sorry, que esta merda aqui
resolveu que qualquer comando que eu de e' indefinido.
Como acabou a tela, acabou as noticias :-) ze luiz, do rio
zeluiz@brlncc
From: IN%"FON...@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU" "Danilo Fonseca" 16-JAN-1992 12:14:58.32
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From: Danilo Fonseca <FON...@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject: Poesia na Rede
To: bras...@cs.columbia.edu
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"...e espero ler mais (sobre) Poesia na rede".
Essa frase do Weber Martins (frase do ano de 1991, na rede, escrita
por nao lembro quem: "Weber, voce e uma luz no fim do tunel") me leva a fazer
a seguinte sugestao: Que tal se fizessemos uma compilacao dos trabalhos poeti-
cos dos brasneteiros? Ha alguns anos, no BR, participei, na minha universidade,
de uma experiencia numa "oficina literaria". As pessoas, de diversas areas, se
reuniam para discutir literatura e poesia e eram encorajadas a trazer suas pro-
prias obras. O resultado foi otimo. No final havia uma coletanea de poemas e
contos escritos por alunos de engenharia, letras, biologia, comunicacao, etc,
etc... O nivel dos trabalhos foi, em termos gerais, bastante satisfatorio. O
conjunto foi inclusive publicado e a experiencia se repetiu por alguns semes-
tres, ate que o tradicional problema de falta de verbas engoliu o projeto.
Como tenho certeza que ha muito brasneteiro poetando solitariamente por ai,
escrevendo nas noites de insonia, sugiro que se aproveite essa producao. Os
trabalhos seriam enviados para um "e-mail" por um determinado periodo. Depois
"publicados" conjuntamente na Rede. Os timidos poderiam assinar com pseudonimo.
E claro que nao se esperaria um "patrulhamento literario" xiita sobre os traba-
lhos. Seria uma oportunidade de exercitar a criatividade dos brasneteiros poe-
tas, sem maiores compromissos, proporcionando fruicao a toda Rede.Nao substi-
mem o potencial de tal experimento. Como disse acima, os resultados costumam
surpreender. Nao me admiraria se um dia surgisse um livro por ai escrito pelos
bardos brasneteiros.
Bem, estou dando a ideia mas, admito a minha limitacao. Eu nao poderia fazer
o trabalho de compilacao por ser semi-analfabeto em computadores. Teria que re-
escrever todos os trabalhos recebidos, ja que nao sei como "juntar tudo" e envi
ar de volta a rede. Creio que essa "ajuntamento" e possivel, pois tenho visto
pacotes de mensagens Brasnet no s.c.brazil.Enfim, para a ideia ir avante,
creio que teriamos que contar com a boa vontade de um dos magos da informatica
que fazem parte da rede.
Bom e isso ai, e so uma ideia que pode ser aprimorada atraves de troca de
sugestoes.
Cordialmente,
Danilo Fonseca <fon...@auvm.american.edu>
From: IN%"emar...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu" "Eduardo Martins" 16-JAN-1992 12:23:59.02
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From: Eduardo Martins <emar...@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu>
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Renata,
Tente um FTP para wuarchive.wustl.edu. Eles tem tudo la'!
Eduardo
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Alguem sabe a populacao do Brasil segundo os novos dados no
novo censo. Se tiver por estado, seria uma grande ajuda.
Muito obrigado companheiros brasneteiros
Jeff Lesser - JHLES@CONNCOLL
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From: Glauber <gmri...@wheaton.edu>
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Sobre o que o Claude Hus escreveu (a revista especializada em
Japan bashing, etc.), fico imaginando o que eles teriam escrito sobre
a "tecnica" usada pelo Presidente Bush no banquete com o primeiro
ministro japones. Sao essas horas em que eu quase me consolo pelo
Collor ter sido eleito no Brasil...
Na parodia de noticiario que eles fazem no Saturday night
Live, sabado passado, o anchorman disse que "numa tentativa de
melhorar a situacao ecnomica dos Estados Unidos, o Presidente levou
para o Japao os CEOs das principais industrias automobilisticas;
realmente houve uma melhora acentuada, mas infelizmente eles ja' estao
de volta."
Glauber.
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big files and uuencoded stuff: gmri...@wheaton.edu
From: IN%"bert...@PRAM.CS.UCLA.EDU" 16-JAN-1992 13:35:35.01
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From: bert...@PRAM.CS.UCLA.EDU (Berthier Ribeiro Araujo Neto)
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Em sua ultima mensagem de noticias, o Ze' Luiz do Rio informa,
==========>>>
ACM AFASTA SECRETARIO APOS ASSALTO A ARGENTINOS: ACM e' o Antonio
Carlos Magalhes (Toninho malvadeza para os intimos). Um grupo de
argentinos chegou ao aeroporto em Salvador, pegou o onibus para
o hotel e foi logo assaltado, perdenro grana, roupas, tudo. O
malvadeza vai pagar o hotel, roupa, o escambau pros assaltados.
E o secretario de seguranca foi pra rua.
<<<=========
Reembolsar os assaltados e' sem duvidas um ato de propaganda.
Espero que seja com o dinheiro dele ...
Botar o Secretario de Seguranca na rua e' uma demonstracao de
como ADMINISTRAR (NAO sou cabo eleitoral do ACM, pelo contrario,
sempre disse que jamais votaria em alguem como ele). E' preciso
reconhecer uma medida acertada ainda que venha do ACM.
O Newtao Cardoso ("coveiro" das Minas Gerais) certa vez recebeu
denuncia que seu secretario de seguranca estava falseando
notas fiscais e ficando com a "grana". O caso foi escandaloso,
pois o acusante (funcionario do governo, nao me lembro o cargo)
tinha copia das notas fiscais falsas e documentos demonstrando
que a Penitenciaria de Neves JAMAIS havia recebido as propaladas
remessas de carne. Que fez o Newtao? Afastou o Secretario e
mandou investigar? NAO! Afastou o denunciante e refutou as
acusacoes !!!
---- Berthier <bert...@pram.cs.ucla.edu>
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From: bia...@ecn.purdue.edu (Marcus V Bianchi)
Subject: ACM acertou?
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Acabei de ler uma mensagem do Berthier achando acertada uma medida do
Toninho Malvadeza por ele ter demitido o secretario de seguranca porque
houve um assalto no centro de Salvador.
Confesso que nao consigo ver nada certo nisto. Se ele for demitir um se-
cretario toda vez que um turista for assaltado em Salvador, eh melhor nem
contratar ninguem para o cargo.
---- Bianchi <bia...@ecn.purdue.edu>
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From: ishi...@pohost.appl.wpafb.af.mil (capt dino ishikura)
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Por motivo de retorno aa PA, solicito o desligamento da bras-net.
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From: IN%"ADA...@ucs.indiana.edu" "Guta Davis" 16-JAN-1992 15:49:43.16
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From: Guta Davis <ADA...@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: "Toninho Malvadeza" em destaque
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Se eu bem conheco o "Toninho Malvadeza," vulgo ACM, o episodio dos turistas
argentinos foi apenas uma desculpa para se livrar de uma "pedra" no sapato
do distinto. O pobre do Secretario de Seguranca estava, com certeza, na lista
negra do Malvadeza. A "motto" favorita do ACM: "Estou com voce e nao abro...!
Traduzindo: ou o Secretario mudou de partido, ou os assaltantes precisavam de
cobertura!!!
Uma baiana, ate' o momento, viva....Inco'gnita, ate' nao sei quando...
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Exemplos como este do Newtao amedronta muita gente que, mesmo com
provas, nunca denuncia nada, pois pode parar na rua...
----Jaime
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From: Edval Santos <KZ...@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Computadores Favoritos
To: brasnet <bras...@cs.columbia.edu>
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Aqui esta' a minha lista de computadores favoritos:
1) Indigo da Silicon Graphics/Unix.
Pros:Excelente estacao de trabalho para calculos, em
particular manipular imagens, raytracing;
Unix.
Cons:Unix e' tipicamente caro para manter, se se pretende
comprar programas prontos e "hardware".
2) NeXT (040)/Mach
Pros:Excelente interface grafica, "interface builder";
Cons:Mesmos do 1). Acrescentando que o futuro da NeXT, inc.
e' um tanto incerto.
3) Amiga3000T + GForce/SysV & AmigaDOS2.0
Pros:Equivalente a 1), com a vantagem adicional de ser
excelente para realidade virtual e video, alem de
que,por ser um computador pessoal, e' bem mais
barato manter.("poor's man silicon graphics. Me " :)
Cons:Apenas um distribuidor, como em 2), porem com uma
base instalada bem maior.
4) PC clone-486/33 /alguma versao de UNIX
Pros: muitos fabricantes e vendedores.
Cons: Os "clones" nao sao tao identicos, possivel
fonte de dor de cabeca, quando se tenta misturar
hardware de fabricantes diferentes.
5) MAC quadras/AUX ou MACOS
Pros: Excelente para DTP. Se rodando AUX, tem-se as vantagens
do UNIX.
Cons: Tipicamente lento para o processador que usa (melhor
usar um 486/33 para inverter a sua matriz.
Futuro nao muito claro para o MACOS,
Edval Santos,"Amiga3000, the computer for the creative mind"
From: IN%"Antoni...@vme.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk" 16-JAN-1992 18:46:07.79
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>FROM:Glauber.
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>Glauber Ribeiro - Wheaton College, IL (USA)
> Sobre o que o Claude Hus escreveu (a revista especializada em
>Japan bashing, etc.), fico imaginando o que eles teriam escrito sobre
>a "tecnica" usada pelo Presidente Bush no banquete com o primeiro
>ministro japones. Sao essas horas em que eu quase me consolo pelo
>Collor ter sido eleito no Brasil...
Existe uma piadinha corrente aqui que o Presidente desmaiou apos ver
o preco da carne que comia... (Para quem nao viveu no Japao, talvez
esta piada nao seje engracada, porem....he.he.he)
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From: IN%"gmri...@wheaton.edu" "Glauber" 17-JAN-1992 03:38:54.27
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From: Glauber <gmri...@wheaton.edu>
Subject: Poesia, computadores e os japoneses
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Achei otima a ideia de por poesia na rede. Vamos levar isto a
frente. Se mais alguem entrar eu ate' colaboro (olha que eu
colaboro!). Beleza, Danilo, toca o barco!
Quanto aos computadores favoritos do Edval, meu computador
favorito e' um laptop da Leading Edge, que me custou $1800 na epoca em
que os similares custavam $2500, funciona direitinho e nao da' dor de
cabeca. Laptop de macho, deve pesar uns 10 kg! (Quanto e' isto em
pounds?).
Alguem ja' descobriu se existe alguma equivalencia entre os
numeros de roupas e sapatos aqui nos EUA e no Brasil?
Os Estados Unidos nunca vao poder competir com os japoneses
enquanto nao desistirem do sistema de pesos e medidas deles, que nem
eles entendem.
A nova moda inaugurada pelo Presidente: depois de "Japan
bashing," agora o negocio e' "Japan barfing"! (Ai, essa doeu!)
Um abraco a todos.
Glauber.
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From: Luciano Bezerra <lb...@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: "Modem" outra vez
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Ola' pessoal
Desculpem-me a ignorancia, e mais essa msg no video de voces.
Estou precisando de uma informa\c{c}\~ao a respeito de "modem".
Estou comprando um modem interno para um IBM/PC/386. Algem poderia
me dizer quais as caracteristicas que devo observar para que esse
modem (interno) possa ser utilizado tanto aqui nos EUA como tambem
la' no BRASIL conectado ao sistema Telebras?
Ficaria muito grato em receber informacoes dos entendidos computeiros
da gloriosa bras-net.
meu E-mail e': LB...@ANDREW.CMU.EDU
Cordialmente
Luciano - CMU
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From: PEI...@OHSTMVSA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU
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Alguem na rede tem alguma informacao
tecnica, de preco, onde encontrar, se existe
algum conversor externo de sistemas de "scanning"
NTSC -> PAL-M, ou outros, que possa ser conectado
em VCR ou mesmo TV ???
Lembro que estou nos USA e no futuro BR.
Qualquer outra informacao ou dicas eh bem vinda.
Obrigado,
Abracos,
Ricardo
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Este e' um resumo das resposta `a pergunta sobre origens de
Portugues e Espanhol. Obrigado a todos que contribuiram.
Nelson
From: camilo <JCAMILO%BRU...@UICVM.uic.edu>
A respeito de espanhol e portugues. Sao linguas irmas, originarias do latim
vulgar falado na peninsula iberica. Ate perto da "invasao" da terra Brasiliae
(deixe passar o latim), o que mais havia era uma especie de dialetos, ja que
etnicamente nao havia Espanha nem Portugal. Havia os lusos, os castelhanos (do
reino de Castela) os andaluzes, os galegos (Galicia) e por ai se vai. O latim
se fundiu com estes dialetos. So quando o condado de Portus Callis se tornou
independente dos reinos de Castela e Leao e que se comecou a pensar o portu-
gues como lingua e nacionalidade. Mas ate a epoca do "descobrimento" do Bra-
sil, as linguas ainda eram muito mescladas: pregunta, arriba, El-Rey, olvidar
etc... alem da mistura com o arabe que ocupou ambos os paises. Hasta luego,
compadre|
From: KMA...@maine.maine.edu
Nelson, estou a procura de titulos, que na casa non ten~o para facer unha citac
ion correta. So : Nova gramatica para a aprendizaxe da lingua de X.X. Costa Ca
sa e outros (e unha version meio lusista do galego e esta ben). Publica Via La
ctea, A Corun~a , 1988. Para o espan~ol, ha R. Lapesa ou Entwhistle, que inclu
en un pouco do galego-portugues, acho. E e posibel que o autor dun estudo do p
ortugues sexa un tal Williams. Xa se ve, e' preciso ir a biblioteca, que man~a
n vou. Apertas, Kathleen
From: sed...@BUACCA.BU.EDU
Oi Nelson, vamos ver que me resta das lembrancas do curso de Letras la' da
UFRGS (em Grego e Latim). Foi no paleolitico... Hum... Ah:
Quando os romanos se espalharam pela Europa impondo o latim como lingua
"oficial", encontraram pessoas que ja' possuiam um substrato linguistico,
of course. A mistura deste substrato c/ o latim dos soldados, plus a trans-
formacao, digo, as transformacoes ocorridos ao longo de quase 2 milenios,
deu origem as modernas linguas neo-latinas, que, se nao me falha a memoria, sao
ooops, sao 6:
ITALIANO;
ESPANHOL;
FRANCES;
RUMENO;
PROVENCAL e
PORTUGUES!!!!
Se leres um texto em portugues arcaico (ou archaico...;-) ), veras que e'
tri parecido c/ espanhol.
O mesmo aconteceria se isolasses geografica ou politicamente as diversas re-
gioes do Brasil e pusesses again uns 2 milenios. Terias, ao final, uma nova
familia de linguas, as neo-portuguesas (ou neo-brasileiras p/ os mais xenofa-
bos...). Assim como o espanhol da Argentina ja' e' bem diferentinho do espa-
nhol do Mexico e/ou da Espanha.Ne'?
Um abraco,
Marilia.
From: MAR...@ucs.indiana.edu
Desde a pre-historia houve diferenc,as linguisticas e culturais na
Peninsula Iberica, tanto assim que os Romanos, ao invadi-la no seculo III
antes de Cristo preservaram certas divisoes. Uma delas, a Lusitania, corres-
ponde ao que e' hoje Portugal e Galiza, e e' talvez a area em que a romaniza-
c.ao foi feita com mais lentidao. O chamado "latim vulgar", imposto pelos
invasores como lingua comum da regiao, sofre a futura influencia das linguas
dos Barbaros germanicos (suevos, vandalos, alanos) e dos arabes. A esta
mistura chama-se "romanc,o", nome que serve para toda a Peninsula, embora
haja diferenc,as marcantes entre as formas faladas nas varias regioes (Cas-
tela, Catalunha, Aragao, Navarra, etc.).
No fim do seculo XII aparecem os primeiros documentos que de-
finem uma forma linguistica propria, usada em Portugal e na Galiza: o *Auto
das Partilhas* (1192) e a *Noticia de Torto*, mais ou menos da mesma epoca.
Chama-se "portugues arcaico" a esta lingua, tambem denominada
na sua primeira fase(de fins do seculo XII ate' 1350) de "galego-
portugues". Apos 1350, quando o rei D. Dinis decreta o uso do portugues
nos documentos publicos, o portugues se separa definitivamente do galego.
A lingua que falamos hoje, o "portugues moderno", estabiliza-se em meados
do seculo XVI e as diferenc,as a partir de entao sao minimas, ou seja,
uma pessoa culta hoje em dia nao deve ter problema algum na leitura de
qualquer texto portugues escrito a partir de 1550.
O castelhano (a lingua de Castela) fo9i criado mais opu, ou menos
da mesma maneira e ao mesmo tempo. Inicialmente, e' uma lingua de ex-
pressao territorial reduzida, sendo preterido pelo galego-portugues
como lingua de cultura. Ate' os reis castelhanos (Afonso X, o Sabio, por
exemplo) escreviam em galego-portugues. No seculo XV, o castelhano cresce
em importancia e o galego (ja' definitivamente separado do portugues)
perde sua posic,ao cimeira.
Com a hegemonia castelhana sobre as varias regioes da Peninsula
Iberica, apenas Portugal tem exito completo em sua atitude de resistencia
tanto politica quanto linguistica. E' curioso notar que a independencia
politica portuguesa corresponde sempre a um esforc,o combinado de ma-
nutenc,ao da lingua nacional.
Ha' apenas duas areas na Peninsula Iberica que os castelhanos nao
conseguiram dominar: a parte da Lusitania que, reduzida da Galiza, se
transformou em Portugal, e as hoje chamadas provincias bascas, que ai estao
diariamente nos noticiarios dos jornais, ainda buscando uma independencia
que parece eludi-las sempre. Os bascos, alias, nao foram dominados sequer
pelos Romanos, cuja lingua se recusaram a adotar. Hoje, op vasconc,o
e' oultimo remanescente vivo de uma lingua pre-romanica na Peninsula
Iberica.
A resistencia linguistica que ainda e' muito forte nos meios fa-
lantes do portugues (que resiste ate' mesmo `a desvairada xenofilia dos
brasileiros - nossa, portanto) e' de longa tradic,ao e representa nao uma
tendencia xenofoba (os portugueses sao talvez os mais importantes fautores
da abertura ocidental a partir do seculo XIV), mas antes a um desejo de
afirmac,ao de individualidade. O Brasil e' herdeiro direto desta tradic,ao.
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e-mai: mar...@ucs.indiana.edu
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Dear Samuel,
I would like to donate a VAX 750 which we used on my LAB here at UCBerkeley
till last summer. It has 1 CPU and 3 disks of 250 Meg each. It is ready to
be picked up at the address:
Paulo Ney de Souza
Department of Mathematics
University of California
Berkeley CA 94720
Phone: (510)643-8638
e-mail: des...@berkeley.edu
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FROM: J...@CARAT.ARIZONA.EDU
I have equipment (about a dozen old computers), but I have no budget
to pay for shipping. The gear is VT100s and Pro-350 systems.
jms
Sam:
Thanks for your note.
We have a number of VT100 terminals (about 6 or 8, I think) and
several Pro-350 computers (probably 2). The address is in
Tucson, Arizona.
jms
Joel M Snyder, 627 E Speedway, 85705 Phone: 602.626.8680 FAX: 602.882.4095
The Mosaic Group, Dep't of MIS, the University of Arizona, Tucson
BITNET: jms@sovset Internet: j...@carat.arizona.edu SPAN: 47541::carat::jms
Le VAX/VMS restera a jamais un sublime rat de cave dans mon calecon.
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Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Cc:
Status: R
I may be able to help with the Brazilian needs. I have a couple of
8088 CPU, dual floppy, 256K PCs, a Zenith terminal and assorted
software including an early version of MS-FORTRAN.
Let me know how to proceed.
Malcolm Sharp,
Coordinator, Tech Support
School of PUblic Administration
Univ. of Southern Calif.
(213) 740-0369
FAX: (213) 740-0001
Samuel R. Oliveira
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Enquanto vivi em Sao Paulo (Morumbi) deflagrou o escandalo da Dona Branca.
Tendo vindo embora uns meses depois fiquei sem saber o fim da historia.
Sei que estava na prisao. Ha' mais algumas informacoes ?
Obrigado desde ja'.
Portuga...
Sergio Terenas,
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