emir Abdelkader et l'insurrection kabyle de 1871
Nasir T.
En 1957 l'Emir Abdelkader could never have come to the rescue of no one, he
died in 1883.
He was already gone to Syria in 1854!
As far as your Charles André Julien, that you mention as your reference, I
hope he did not teach how DNA study showed that Berbers existed ever since
eternity in Algeria!
Oumalou...@spring.com wrote in message
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>
>
>En 1957, l'armee francaise attaqua la Kabylie. A
>l'appel de la Kabylie, l'Ouest algerien sous la
>direction de l'Emir Abdelkader refusa de se joindre
>au combat.
>L'Emir Abdelkader , apres 15 ans de combat contre
>le colonialisme francais dut se rendre et devient
>un grand ami de la France.
> Le 7 avril 1871, toute la Kabylie avait ete souleve
>par Mokrani contre l'armee coloniale francaise.
>Quand il apprit les debuts de l'insurrection,
>l'emir Abdelkader , devenu apparemmnt le
>nouveau "porte parole" du gouvernement
> francais declara :
>
> "Je denonce cette insurrection contre la
>justice, contre la volonte de Dieu et la mienne.
>Nous prions le tout puissant de punir les traitres
>et de confondre les
>ennemis de la France "
>
>Refrence : Charles Andre Julien. Histoire de
>L"Algerie contemporaine. 1827-1871.
>Paris, PUF. 2eme edition, 1979. Page 209.
>
>l'historien francais A. Julien ajoutes
>que "les appels de l'emir a la Kabylie de
>deposer les armes, n'eurent aucun effet sur
>les combattants, aux sentiments
>de qui il etait devenu etranger "
>
>
>
Oumalou...@spring.com
ko
Sahit Oumalou
Now I have a question:
Was El-Mokrani Kabyle?
I always knew he was from M'sila, but his 'insurection' reached the
'Kabylie'..
Or am I mixing with someone else?
Was Just a question.
ko
Oumalou...@spring.com
Oumalou...@spring.com wrote:
>En 1957, l'armee francaise attaqua la Kabylie. A
Correction : lire 1857. Tout le monde aura
devine sauf bien sur Tahraoui.
Oumalou...@spring.com
Oumalou...@spring.com
"Nasir T." <nas...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>En 1957 l'Emir Abdelkader could never have come to the rescue of no one, he
>died in 1883.
>He was already gone to Syria in 1854!
>As far as your Charles André Julien, that you mention as your reference, I
>hope he did not teach how DNA study showed that Berbers existed ever since
>eternity in Algeria!
Bien sur tu n'as rien a dire de concret.
Un conseil: cherche d'autres personnalites
a presenter comme patriote, car jusqu'a
maintenat tu nous a presente des
gens qui avaient beaucoup a cacher
(comme to Abdelkader)
Au fait son idolatrie s'est arrete
en Algerie , pas acause de sa barbe
comme tu le clames mais parceque les
livres d'histoire avaient commence a circuler
en Algerie et soudainement on decouvrait le
vrai Abdelkader. A TURNCOAT devenu
hizb franca!
>Oumalou...@spring.com wrote in message
><6cqjp7$f...@camel18.mindspring.com>...
>>
>>
>>En 1957, l'armee francaise attaqua la Kabylie. A
Nasir T.
Listen! you compulsive confused and confusing liar, and you have to admit.
In 1957, as you have said, both Al-Mokrani and Al-Emir were long dead. Even
if we go back to 1857, Al-Emir was already serving a life sentence of exile
in Syria for fighting your beloved frança from 1833 all the way to 1847.
What you don't understand, and believe me your knowledge of Algerian history
is limited only to what your french teachers such as Charles André Julien
have taught you and therefore very defamatory, is that during the entire
occupation Algerians of all sorts, Berbers and Arabs and others, fought the
occupation in a fashion that was scattered and intermittent.
You are asking, as your mentor the European has taught you, where was
El-Emir when Berbers finally decided to take the arms? He went exactly to
where the Al-Mokrani was when the Emir was fighting them! How is that for
an answer!
Let's extrapolate his and therefore your questions and see where did the
Berbers go, when all the Shorfa tribes of the Zab, despite their reputed
wars against each other, united into a big war against frança in what is
now referred to as THAW'RAT AZZ'ATCHA.
The correct answer has nothing to do with Berbers and Arabs, as your master
is trying to tell you, but the problem has to do with Algerians and the fact
they were newly exposed to colonialism. The rejected it and did not like it
a bit. They tried here and there to revolt, and finally, they learned that
the best way into how to defeat frança was to unite. And so they did, and
the result was a humiliating defeat to frança and its party. Unfortunately,
Hizbfrança is making a come back through calls of division like the one you
are making under some imaginative ethnic claims.
I am sure that Al-Mokrani tonight is very upset about your remarks about
him. So leave him alone, and read more about your history from its sources
and not from the mouth of Charles André Julien.
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Dahmane
Oumalou...@spring.com wrote:
>
> Oumalou...@spring.com wrote:
>
> >En 1857, l'armee francaise attaqua la Kabylie. A
I think it is fine to post your opinions about L'Emir.
I just hope you can promote your racist ideologie without the need for
painful insults against the person of "L'emir Abdelkader.
you should apologize...
Dahmane
Oumalou...@spring.com
ko <k...@not.home> wrote:
You got mixed up with another
name. But what's your point ?
Even if Mokrani was from Msila .
There are people whose origin is Kabylia
everywhere in Algerie .
A branch of my family has resettled in
Tiaret in the 20's . Colonialism
took the land of Imazighen who had to
quit the plains by force and
find shelter in the mountainous regions
of Algeria. You think it will be
natural for them to go back to the land of their ancestors.
Then again, the independant Algeria never returned
a piece of land to any familly which has been exporpriated
by french colonialsm and other isms. At that time
the arabist regime of Algeria was flirting with
communism, socialism and other fascist isms.
Hadjmus...@hotmail.com
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Sahit Oumalou,
Mon point etait que El-Mokrani n'était pas 'fiché' comme kabyle, mais
plutôt arabe, ceci ne l'a pas empeché d'avoir des alliés kabyles pour
combattre les français. Les kabyles l'ont plus aidé au nom de l'Islam
qu'autre chose. D'ailleurs c'est les zaouias kabyle qui l'ont soutenu.
Je ne rentre pas dans les details qui l'ont poussés à s'elever contre
l'autorité coloniale, mais sa revolte à duré quelques mois. Ce qui n'est
pas comparable au combat de l'Emir Abdelkader.
A+
ko
Oumalou...@spring.com
ko <k...@not.home> wrote:
>Sahit Oumalou,
>Mon point etait que El-Mokrani n'était pas 'fiché' comme kabyle, mais
>plutôt arabe, ceci ne l'a pas empeché d'avoir des alliés kabyles pour
>combattre les français. Les kabyles l'ont plus aidé au nom de l'Islam
>qu'autre chose. D'ailleurs c'est les zaouias kabyle qui l'ont soutenu.
>Je ne rentre pas dans les details qui l'ont poussés à s'elever contre
>l'autorité coloniale, mais sa revolte à duré quelques mois. Ce qui n'est
>pas comparable au combat de l'Emir Abdelkader.
>A+
>ko
Mokrani etait un Kabyle.
Mokrane veut dire en kabyle " grand, plus age .... "
Point final!
Oumalou...@spring.com
Dahmane <@ubc.umd.edu> wrote:
>Oumalou...@spring.com wrote:
>>
>> Oumalou...@spring.com wrote:
>>
>> >En 1857, l'armee francaise attaqua la Kabylie. A
>I think it is fine to post your opinions about L'Emir.
>I just hope you can promote your racist ideologie without the need for
>painful insults against the person of "L'emir Abdelkader.
>you should apologize...
>Dahmane
Who was insulted ?
Your Emir who joined hizb franca
and strated bashing the Kabyles
during his time
or the persons who a century later
demounced him for doing so to their
ancestors?
The truth about this Abdelkader is that
he had many hidden skeletons in his
closet ,something you do not understand
but as soon as I will find more I will post
them because I know there is more.
You got screwed up in your head and do not
understand basic ABC of what is right and
what is wrong. If there is one who should apolodgize
for insult it is you.
KO
Oumalou...@spring.com wrote:
> Mokrani etait un Kabyle.
> Mokrane veut dire en kabyle " grand, plus age .... "
>
> Point final!
>
hahahhahaahha YES SIR Cheikh El-mokrani etait un kabyle, ......... de M'sila
si tu le permet. Donc arabisés (par les
arabo-chaouias-baatho-islamo-hizbfranca d'alors....
Sa revolte a duré 4 mois si je me rappelle bien. LA raison de sa revolte
etait la confiscation d'une partie de ses terres par les Francais. AVANT
cela, il etait un bachagha ....
Le combat d'Abdelkader a duré 15 ans.. la raison de sa revolte etait le
colonialisme francais......
Tu as saisi la difference?.
Quand El-mokrani a commencé, Abdelkader avait déja perdu sa guerre depis des
années...
Finalement cela tourne au ridicule cette histoire
d'arabo-baatho-islamo-bla-bla-bla-iste, tu ne pense pas Oumalou?
Tu te trompe de temps cousin.. ton discours rappelle les années 80.
Man, we are in 98, and the butchers of the GIA don't give a damn about who
is who in our homeland, and PLEWWWWWWWEASE don't tell (again) they are
arabo-islamo-$*@&%-iste
Point final comme tu dis.
Aya bonne journée cousin :-)
bj...@scn.org
In article <34F1B156...@not.home>,
ko <k...@not.home> wrote:
>
> Sahit Oumalou
> Now I have a question:
> Was El-Mokrani Kabyle?
> I always knew he was from M'sila, but his 'insurection' reached the
> 'Kabylie'..
> Or am I mixing with someone else?
> Was Just a question.
> ko
Sahitu:
Je pense que tu fais fausse route, El-Mokrani est Kabyle de Bordj-Bou-Areridj,
une ville situee au nord de Msila et ou les Arabophones cotoient les
Berberophones. Ainsi donc, les deux langues sont parlees.
Pour etre precis, El-Mokrani est un feodal qui a servi les turcs, d'ou son
titre de Bachagha. Son travail se resumait essentiellement a la collecte de
la Taxe pour les Califes d'Istambul.
Qu'il soit un Bachagha de cette ville, montre bien que la frontiere entre
Kabyles et Arabes est imaginaire. Ceci n'est pas etonnant: tous les historiens
s'accordent, comme Lacheraf l'a rappele dans ses articles parus dans El-Watan,
que les Arabes Hilaliens ont ete allies aux tribus Berberes dans leurs guerres
intestines.
Le plus important concernant la revolte dite d'El-Mokrani, c'est qu'il a recu
l'appui des Zawias, le vrai centre de decision dans l'Algerie pre-coloniale,
que la region soit Berberophone ou non. Aussi, la revolte n'etait pas
limitee a la Kabylie seulement, comme certains veulent nous le faire croire,
mais elle s'est etendu a tout l'Est Algerien. Merci a L'Islam, la religion
qui unifie les coeurs!
Taleb.
Sid-Ali
KO wrote:
>
> Le combat d'Abdelkader a duré 15 ans.. la raison de sa revolte etait le
> colonialisme francais......
> Tu as saisi la difference?.
>
> Quand El-mokrani a commencé, Abdelkader avait déja perdu sa guerre depis des
> années...
>
> Finalement cela tourne au ridicule cette histoire
> d'arabo-baatho-islamo-bla-bla-bla-iste, tu ne pense pas Oumalou?
> Tu te trompe de temps cousin.. ton discours rappelle les années 80.
> Man, we are in 98, and the butchers of the GIA don't give a damn about who
> is who in our homeland, and PLEWWWWWWWEASE don't tell (again) they are
> arabo-islamo-$*@&%-iste
>
> Point final comme tu dis.
> Aya bonne journée cousin :-)
Si je peux me permettre, il y a un livre appele "Les memoires de l'Emir
Abdelkader" ecrit par Churchill qui revele plusieurs choses, et
contrairement a ce qu'on peut croire, celui-ci a eu beaucoup de mal pour
unir ce peuple, la France ayant deja commence ce travail de division,
chose que sont encore une fois de refaire quelques fameux chefs de
partis (Exemple : Ait-Ahmed), arretons de qualifier tel de Kbaili ou de
Arbi, Mzabi, Chaoui, Guebli ou autre, avant tout on est Algeriens, meme
si les Chaouis ont toujours eu le pouvoir, n'empeche que c'est une
region qui a beaucoup souffert du colonialisme et qui continue a
souffrir, le pouvoir c'est des barons qui le detiennent, cela tourne
autour du cercle Batna-Ain Beida et El-Eulma, on en a tous souffert
depuis 35 ans, eux aussi sont Algeriens, mais avant tout c'est des
SANGSUES, des HAGGARINES.
Je ne suis ni Kabyle, ni Chaoui a me voir prendre leur defense, je suis
ALGERIEN contre la division, le vol, el-hogra et tout ce qui empoisonne
la vie de nos freres qui n'en peuvent plus d'etre entre le marteau et
l'enclume. Je doute qu'aujourd'hui il existe de vrais democrates parmi
ces chefs de partis d'un bout a l'autre.
Sid-Ali.
Nasir T.
Oumalou...@spring.com
bj...@scn.org wrote:
>
>Sahitu:
>Je pense que tu fais fausse route, El-Mokrani est Kabyle de Bordj-Bou-Areridj,
>une ville situee au nord de Msila et ou les Arabophones cotoient les
>Berberophones. Ainsi donc, les deux langues sont parlees.
>Pour etre precis, El-Mokrani est un feodal qui a servi les turcs, d'ou son
>titre de Bachagha. Son travail se resumait essentiellement a la collecte de
>la Taxe pour les Califes d'Istambul.
This is one of the biggest lie I have ever read on
sca. Where did you get that ?
Reference please !
>Qu'il soit un Bachagha de cette ville, montre bien que la frontiere entre
>Kabyles et Arabes est imaginaire. Ceci n'est pas etonnant: tous les historiens
>s'accordent, comme Lacheraf l'a rappele dans ses articles parus dans El-Watan,
>que les Arabes Hilaliens ont ete allies aux tribus Berberes dans leurs guerres
>intestines.
J'ai lu l'article dont tu parles de Lacheraf
dans El Watan. Il est completement vide
et est base sur des perceptions style
Lacheraf.
Quand a la ville de Bordj Bou Arreridj,
au debut du siecle, elle etait completement
kabylophone. BBA fait partie
de l'extremite geographique de la Basse Kabylie;
aujourd hui des familles kabyles bien connues dans la region
comme les Akrouf
et tous les autres ont honte de parler kabyle
en public.
bj...@scn.org
In article <6d6dcb$b...@camel20.mindspring.com>,
Oumalou...@spring.com wrote:
> This is one of the biggest lie I have ever read on
> sca. Where did you get that ?
> Reference please !
Ya si Oumalou, je ne cherche pas a te faire changer d'avis. C'est
d'ailleurs une peine perdu tant que tu lis l'histoire religieusement,
je devrai dire catholiquement. On peut tout de meme partager une chose:
le respect! Ne me dis plus jamais que j'ai menti! Je peux me tromper
mais je ne mentirai jamais!
La reference? C'est moi meme ya Chikh. Et je n'ai besoin d'aucun maitre
pour me dicter comment je dois voir l'histoire. Libre a toi de continuer
a venerer tes idoles! Reveille toi, on n'est pas en 1962, le temps des
Alphabetes est revolu, ya chbab!
Tu peux continuer a penser que le Bachagha El-Mokrani est en fait
l'Aguellid Amokrane. Il a regne sur la Tamazgha et parmi ses hauts
faits, il place sa Capitale a la Frontiere de la Barbarie, le pays
Arabe des Banu-Hilal. C'est une maniere de voir, pourquoi pas.
> J'ai lu l'article dont tu parles de Lacheraf
> dans El Watan. Il est completement vide
> et est base sur des perceptions style
> Lacheraf.
Oui, bien sure, Andre Julien n'a pas de perception, c'est un Dieu!
> Quand a la ville de Bordj Bou Arreridj,
> au debut du siecle, elle etait completement
> kabylophone. BBA fait partie
> de l'extremite geographique de la Basse Kabylie;
> aujourd hui des familles kabyles bien connues dans la region
> comme les Akrouf
> et tous les autres ont honte de parler kabyle
> en public.
Tout ca est possible, mais quelle conclusion en tire-tu?
A moins qu'Andre Julien n'a pas traite la question...
Take care.
Taleb.
In article <6d5hbp$3iq$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
bj...@scn.org wrote:
> Sahitu:
>
> Je pense que tu fais fausse route, El-Mokrani est Kabyle de
> Bordj-Bou-Areridj, une ville situee au nord de Msila et ou les
> Arabophones cotoient les Berberophones. Ainsi donc, les deux
> langues sont parlees.
>
> Pour etre precis, El-Mokrani est un feodal qui a servi les turcs,
> d'ou son titre de Bachagha. Son travail se resumait essentiellement
> a la collecte de la Taxe pour les Califes d'Istambul.
>
> Qu'il soit un Bachagha de cette ville, montre bien que la frontiere
> entre Kabyles et Arabes est imaginaire. Ceci n'est pas etonnant:
> tous les historiens s'accordent, comme Lacheraf l'a rappele dans ses
> articles parus dans El-Watan, que les Arabes Hilaliens ont ete allies
> aux tribus Berberes dans leurs guerres intestines.
>
> Le plus important concernant la revolte dite d'El-Mokrani, c'est qu'il
> a recu l'appui des Zawias, le vrai centre de decision dans l'Algerie
> pre-coloniale, que la region soit Berberophone ou non. Aussi, la revolte
> n'etait pas limitee a la Kabylie seulement, comme certains veulent nous
> le faire croire,
> mais elle s'est etendu a tout l'Est Algerien. Merci a L'Islam, la religion
> qui unifie les coeurs!
>
Oumalou...@spring.com
bj...@scn.org wrote:
>In article <6d6dcb$b...@camel20.mindspring.com>,
> Oumalou...@spring.com wrote:
>> This is one of the biggest lie I have ever read on
>> sca. Where did you get that ?
>> Reference please !
>Ya si Oumalou, je ne cherche pas a te faire changer d'avis. C'est
>d'ailleurs une peine perdu tant que tu lis l'histoire religieusement,
>je devrai dire catholiquement. On peut tout de meme partager une chose:
>le respect! Ne me dis plus jamais que j'ai menti! Je peux me tromper
>mais je ne mentirai jamais!
>La reference? C'est moi meme ya Chikh. Et je n'ai besoin d'aucun maitre
>pour me dicter comment je dois voir l'histoire. Libre a toi de continuer
>a venerer tes idoles! Reveille toi, on n'est pas en 1962, le temps des
>Alphabetes est revolu, ya chbab!
Qui es tu ?
Il est bien connu que les arabistes ont toujours
essaye et ont reussi pendant preque 30 ans
a distiller en Algerie une histoire fausse.
La vraie est contre leur ideologie donc doit
etre interdite des ecoles et des medias.
Pour fausser les cartes, le programe d'histoire
des ecoles algeriennes couvrent 60% du
moyen orient, 20 % du reste du monde
et 20 % de l'Algerie.
QUELLE HONTE!
>Tu peux continuer a penser que le Bachagha El-Mokrani est en fait
>l'Aguellid Amokrane. Il a regne sur la Tamazgha et parmi ses hauts
>faits, il place sa Capitale a la Frontiere de la Barbarie, le pays
>Arabe des Banu-Hilal. C'est une maniere de voir, pourquoi pas.
>> J'ai lu l'article dont tu parles de Lacheraf
>> dans El Watan. Il est completement vide
>> et est base sur des perceptions style
>> Lacheraf.
>Oui, bien sure, Andre Julien n'a pas de perception, c'est un Dieu!
>> Quand a la ville de Bordj Bou Arreridj,
>> au debut du siecle, elle etait completement
>> kabylophone. BBA fait partie
>> de l'extremite geographique de la Basse Kabylie;
>> aujourd hui des familles kabyles bien connues dans la region
>> comme les Akrouf
>> et tous les autres ont honte de parler kabyle
>> en public.
>Tout ca est possible, mais quelle conclusion en tire-tu?
>A moins qu'Andre Julien n'a pas traite la question...
Azul a Si Taleb
Cela veut dire que la politique culturelle
nazo- arabiste a succeder a BBA. Ces Nazis ont reussi a effacer
la langue tamazight de la region : c'est une victoire pour eux.
Nasir T.
Your dumbness does not seem to see an end.
Where did come up with this statistic of 60%, 20% and 20%?
Did you learn this from André Julien too, where he told that Berbers did not
originate from East Africa but rather evolved separately of all of humanity
here in North Africa based on his DNA studies?
If so André Julien had lied to you as he did about the Emir!
If he did not tell you that, and made it up yourself as he taught very well
how to lie, then you are negotiating your way to these lies and you will
start believing in them yourself, because none of us does.
Oumalou...@spring.com wrote in message
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Oumalou...@spring.com
"Nasir T." <nas...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Your dumbness does not seem to see an end.
The only dumb guy here is you.
>Where did come up with this statistic of 60%, 20% and 20%?
It was all written in algerian newspaper. But since you read
Sharq El Awsat published by Saoudi Arabia (the country of your
ancestors) from London, ther is no way that you can learn anything
about real Algeria.
1cent question : Does it mean that The Saoudis' are Hizb
Englizzz ????
Nasir T.
If you are dumb that is your problem and not mine. Actually you should be
thankful that someone is telling you this right now. Take mo_Benali, he
seems to catch on very quickly on his mistakes and correct them but get into
new ones. However, you continue falling into the very same ones.
The other day, you were trying to demonstrate the impossible by pulling out
a DNA argument that Berbers originated in North Africa, and despite that it
is in clear contradiction of modern science findings you still persist in
it. Recently an Algerian on this board told you never to trust french
against your own elders, you argued against that favoring your french
masters against your own people. Now you come with some baseless statistic
hoping that no one is looking to support your propaganda of hate and
division in Algeria, and when you were told to produce evidence you claimed
that it is in the Algerian papers.
In Algerian schools, which you hate and would rather see us refer to french
ones, they say: RUBBA UTH'RIN AKBAHU MIN THANBIN, which translates to what
of an argument that is worse than the misdeed. I dare you to produce this
article, provided that real scientific study and survey, and not just mere
propaganda of bereberist such as how Said Mekbel used to do in La Liberté.
The Berberists in Algeria of the RCD, MCB and some of the FFS are involved
in a massive desinformation campaign, and everyone knows about it. Now that
their strongest supporters in the government, namely general Medične and his
gang, is weakening, they are suffering some serious set backs. The other
generals, who are all Berbers, thank God, are paying a great deal of
attention to your tactics that are drowning the country into deeper chaos,
and they seem that they are taking serious look into what you are doing.
As far as I am concerned, I read Asharq Al-Awsat(sometimes to learn about
the Saudi rulers in their abuse of their people), Al-Hayet(to read about the
official version of the Algerian and Egyptian governments), Le Monde
(sometimes to see how those french thugs think), La Liberté, El-Watan and
Al-Khabar (to learn about the schemes of the Berberist Hizbfrança), and a
variety of media, including when I have an access to it publications of the
GIA and the AIS. Yes I read and I am not ashamed of it, and this is how I
came to know the Berberists fairly well, and I am trying to speak up my mind
in defense of the vast silent majority of Algeria.
I am party blind and sympathize with all the under dogs, and today Algerians
are under great deal of pressure and are being pulled by so many tendencies.
I wanted common ground to sit on and call every one to it. I saw frança as
a common enemy to all, and its dislike as a starting point for our strength.
It is ironic here that the only resistance I have encountered was from the
Berberist, which is due to a hidden agenda of theirs that involve frança in
the future of Algeria. This is what I set myself to prove today. In the
course of this debate I was called many things, but I could care less, for
I, as Aďt Willen warned his fellow Berberist, am back and I am as energized
as ever to show the world the real you.
Call me HizbSaudiArabia if you wish it won't bother me a bit, specially that
no Algerian believes that such a thing exists, and even if it does many
Algerians out of religious convictions would pay all their life long held
belongings to be associated with the Sacred Land, but I know who said sadi,
Redha Malek and some Algerians are: rotten HIZBFRANCA! With Algerian names
and possibly parents too. This is where the difference lies.
Your hate toward Algerians is shown through your discontentment with their
language, religion, history, education and heroes. You have called the
Emir Hizbfrança, and Algerians will never forgive you for that. This is
exactly why your agenda will never succeed in Algeria, because Algerians are
no dumb and when they see you make these calls that frança used to dominate
them for 132 years, you are to them HIZBFRANCA. For that is what HIZBFRANCA
is all about.
Oumalou...@spring.com wrote in message
<6dcqni$k...@camel21.mindspring.com>...
Fethi&Di
>in defense of the vast silent majority of Algeria.
Mo Benali
Dahmane wrote:
> If you ask this qustion to anyone in the Algeria "Who is the real
> Hizb franca in Algeria " i am 100% sure the answer is "the berberist
> " , am i wrong
>
> Anyway, you spam, so I'll spam:
> As the establishment position, anti-berbero_serb statements are
> represented as the
> opposite of Hate. They take the form of a pretense of objective
> non-racism.
> Anti-berbero_serb racism is called "anti-racism", just as the said
> saadi hizb franca
> was called the democratic hizb franca.
> My problem with so-called "berberist-racism" is that its advocates
> are
> only interested in spreading racism in the countries. The false
> question
> they ask is "Will the berberist take the power in algeria?", as if we
> were speaking
> objectively about the majority.
>
> The right question you should ask Berbero_serb
> Who is killing and massacring the arabopone in algeria, why the
> genocide happens only in arabophone region
> Blida , Medea , Ain defla , Sidi belaabbes, tlemcen, saida, chlef,
> djelfa, Laghout , El Oued Ghelizane,Mostaghanem, ouest and south
> Algiers...?
> why 90% killed in Algeeria are arobophone ????????????????
> why the arabophone region are the first target ?????????????
> why the berberist are armed and the arabophone are not armed
> ????????????????
> why the arabophone region are poor and under developped
> ???????????????
> do you have any answer serbo berberist, you do.
> Ouyahia and Zeroul two berbers have the answer
Dahmane:
The saying about the computers...garbage in, garbage out...applies also
to you.
Get off this serbo-berberist garbage, will you? The day the berberists
attack another country like the serbs did then you can use the term. For
now the only thing the so called 'berberists' are only revendicating the
rights to their culture in their home land.
MB