1. Shuktara : Remember Handa-Bhonda and Bantul the Great ?
2. Kishore Bharati : Nontey-Phontey ? Dinesh Chandra Bandopadhyay's series on
Runu ? I remember a dialogue which was hilarious, stated
about this friend (?) of Runu, by his father :
" O halay za koy, tar soiddo-anna misa kotha".
3. Tepantor : Was VERY good, disappeared...
4. Chchotoder Katha: used to be published from Bardhdhaman
5. Jhumjhumi : a mini magazine, I still think it was one of the richest, in
terms of quality.
6. Anandamela :(of old days, where we read Gabbush Gubbai, a story by poet
Nirendranath Chakroborty, not the recent version for "young
adults" )
7. Some special Puja numbers : Can you remember some names?
8. Please add on... would love to reminisce..
Shoumyo.
Ar ekta oshombhob dhop-er shikarer golper series chhilo. Golper
namgulo Jotayu-r dhoron-er --- Keute-r Karamoti, Bison o Bioscope,
Gondarer Gundami, etc. Shob golpogulo shuru hoto "Kanti Chowdhury
bollen..."
Ei series-er lekhoker nam-o mone nei.
Mandar.
Bogola mama stories were written by Rajkumar Maitra.
Rajiv
Waitng for more.
Shoumyo.
In article <96077.173...@psuvm.psu.edu> Dasgupta <TXD...@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>While I am reminding some of the readers from West Bengal about some magazines
>we all shared when we were little,I would also request our Bangladeshi nettor
>friends to enlighten us about the magazines you grew up with.
>
> 1. Shuktara : Remember Handa-Bhonda and Bantul the Great ?
> 2. Kishore Bharati : Nontey-Phontey ? Dinesh Chandra Bandopadhyay's series on
> Runu ? I remember a dialogue which was hilarious, stated
> about this friend (?) of Runu, by his father :
> " O halay za koy, tar soiddo-anna misa kotha".
>
> 3. Tepantor : Was VERY good, disappeared...
> 4. Chchotoder Katha: used to be published from Bardhdhaman
> 5. Jhumjhumi : a mini magazine, I still think it was one of the richest, in
> terms of quality.
> 6. Anandamela :(of old days, where we read Gabbush Gubbai, a story by poet
> Nirendranath Chakroborty, not the recent version for "young
> adults" )
> 7. Some special Puja numbers : Can you remember some names?
You missed out Sandesh! It was one of the best. All of Satyajit Ray's
short stories, some of Pheluda's, all of his translations, jakhon chhoto
chhilam, molla naseeruddin and Tarini KhuRo would come out in Sandesh. He
would also illustrate other stories from time to time. Like Manjil Sen's
Gandalu series. Then Sandesh would publish Leela Majumdars wonderful
stories, Mahastweta Devi's stories on Phalgu and Nadosh the cow. I still
have the signed cards of the three editors, and
it says "jakhon tumi baRo habe takhon eta dekhe tomar Sandesher katha
mone poRbe." Sandersh also had the wonderful section of Haat Pakabar Ashor.
They would publish young readers' stories, articles and drawings. Sandesh
also carried good riddles and contests from time to time.
After Anandemela's abysmal downfall ( I presume that happended when
Niren Chakraborty left) Sandesh was the only quality magazine for children
that came out of Calcutta.
Does anyone know what has happened to Sandesh? It hasn't closed down,
has it?
Baidurya.
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Graduate Student | rule about what one should read and what one
Civil Engg, JHU | shouldn't. More than half of modern culture depends
Baltimore, MD 21218 | on what one shouldn't read.
Phone: 410 2355221 | JACK: I am quite aware of the fact, and I don't
| propose to discuss modern culture. It isn't the
| sort of thing one should talk of in private. I
| simply want my cigarette case back.
|
| -- Oscar Wilde, "The Importance of Being Earnest"
(1895)
Do you remember another magazine called Fantastic ( ... Adrish Bardhan) ?
--
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What about Tarzan? Pandob Goenda? There were so many nice Nihar Ranjan
Gupto stories published in Shuktara, also Shuktara used to have a short
story contests, I read some nice stories there too, even though most of them were pretty silly.
The best Hemendra Kumar Roy stories were also published in Shuktara only.
> 2. Kishore Bharati : Nontey-Phontey ? Dinesh Chandra Bandopadhyay's series on
> Runu ? I remember a dialogue which was hilarious, stated
> about this friend (?) of Runu, by his father :
You're very very wrong! It's Shyamadas De who used to write "Runu..."
I remember having spent such good times reading Runu in the pujabarshiki
every year when I was in school, there was something very sad and
romantic about all those stories.
Dinesh Chandro Chattopaddhay(not Bandopadhyay!) used to write those
silly "Bhaba...." stories every year, Bhaba => Bhallook balak :) :)
> " O halay za koy, tar soiddo-anna misa kotha".
>
> 5. Jhumjhumi : a mini magazine, I still think it was one of the richest, in
> terms of quality.
Yuck!!
> 6. Anandamela :(of old days, where we read Gabbush Gubbai, a story by poet
> Nirendranath Chakroborty, not the recent version for "young
> adults" )
Ahh! that reminds me of "Manoj der advoot baDi", Tintins, Chuni Goswami's
"Khelte Khelte".
> 7. Some special Puja numbers : Can you remember some names?
Yup! Pakshiraaj, Sandesh, Anandamela, Bodhon, Udbodhon, Balaka, Agomoni,
Shanai, Ananda(not Anadamela!), so many of them.
> 8. Please add on... would love to reminisce..
> Shoumyo.
>
You forgot Sandesh, Sishusaathi :(
Most of the best works from Upendrakishore's family were first published
in Sandesh only, the best Feluda(IMO) which was "Baadsashi Angti" was
published in Sandesh, so were the best of Lila Majumder's works,
Nalini Das, Subinoy Roy, Kalyani Karlekar, Kulada Ranjan Roy,
Punyolata Chakorborty etc.
Sishusaathi was also pretty nice, didn't feature a hell lot of a big names
but used to be pretty decent, unfortunately I don't remember a lot about
it :(
Rajiv
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- Mahmood Hassan
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>Tarpor amader otuloniyo Teni-da and his constant put-downs of Pyala and
>Habul. Achha karo-r ki 'Chaarmurti' chhobita mone aacche? Tate shei 'tel
>diye mudi mekhe - khaabo toke' sceneta was absolutely hilarious. Also,
Khub mone porcche, asombhab rakam er silly, I am happy to say that
the original story didn't have any such ghastly things in it.
>how about 'Podi-pishir Bormi Baksho'-r train scene-e Chhaya Debi aar
>Chinmoy Ray-er eke onno-ke 'chup' korte bola? Ei re, very sorry. Onno
>thread-e chole gelam.
>
>Indrani.
Apni magazine theke cinema te chole elen kano? Besh to alochona hocchilo.
Ekdom chhotobelay 'Khirer Putul' pode ei petukmoni shopno dekhto putul
gulo boshe boshe gilchhi. Aha...shopne she ki shwad chhilo!
Seriously...echhada mone podchhe 'Thakurma-r Jhuli'-te shei mish-kaalo
bhomra padmo-dighi-r tolaye. 'Rajkahini'-te Gayeb-Gayebi. Tarpor
'Ho...Jo...Bo...Ro...Lo??? Comics-e Mandrake...Betal...Bantul the Great.
Tarpor amader otuloniyo Teni-da and his constant put-downs of Pyala and
Habul. Achha karo-r ki 'Chaarmurti' chhobita mone aacche? Tate shei 'tel
diye mudi mekhe - khaabo toke' sceneta was absolutely hilarious. Also,
I already mentioned Buddhadeb Guha's Riju-da stories in another post.
Most other "shikar kahini-s" in Bengali are horrible -- they are
violent and do not teach the importance of living in harmony with
nature and conserving wild animals. An exception is Mahashwets Debi's
translation of Jim Corbett, which was a pleasure to read.
-Sayan.
'Kony' - Moti Nandy'r. Chuni Goswami'r atmojibani holo 'Khelte Khelte'.
Does anyone remember Nonida Not Out by Moti Nandy?
Apra.
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: > Ahh! that reminds me of "Manoj der advoot baDi", Tintins, Chuni Goswami's
: > "Khelte Khelte".
: "Gandho-ta khoob shondehojanak" - was it "Manoj der advoot baDi"? What
: about the betals? Aranyadev, Guran and the pigmyes? Chuni Goswami's "Cony"
i^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
jotodhur mone pore 'Koni' Moti Nandi-r lekha. Moti Nandy aro kichu dharoon
lekha chilo amongst which 'Striker', 'Stopper' are famous ones.
Both Koni and Striker had been filmed later. My apologies, if however,
you're referring to some other book which I'm unaware of.
: was also fantastic.
: > Rajiv
: Chaitali
regards,
Anindya.
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>would also illustrate other stories from time to time. Like Manjil Sen's
>Gandalu series.
Gandalu stories were by Nalini Dash, not Manjil Sen.
Hassan Bhai:
Apnar lekhata poreh money porchchey je oi kagojgulir katha ami bodhoy
shunechchi. Bahattor/Tiattor-e Bangladesh thekey amader kachchey
(Kolkatay) amader Naheed Khalamoni beRate aashten. Uni Muktijudhdher
golpo bolten, ar shongey aanten prochur chchotoder kagoj.
Amar jotodur money porchchey, Al Mahmud-er "Amma bolen/ Porh-re shona/,
Abba bolen/Mon Dey/ Paathey amar / mon boshena/ Ka(n)thaal chaa(m)par/
Gondhey" - ei opurbo chchoDa-ti kono ekta shishu-potrikay prothom
dekhi. Naam-ta mone porchcheyna. Bohudin por Dhakay Shilpo-Kala Academy-
te giye jokhon o(n)ke ei katha boli, uni khub-i bishmito o anondito bodh
korechchilen.
Jhum-jhumi naamer je kagojtar katha bolchchilam, sheta chchilo char
inchi by char inchi ekta khudey portika. Sheta-tey, amar money porey,
Kallol Tripathi boley ekjon baaro bochchorer chheley (shei shomoye baro)
darun chchobi aankto. Shey ekbar e(n)kechchilo "Bangladesher
Muktijudhdho" naamer ekta chchobi. Chchobita amar ekhono money aachchey.
Okhanei porechchilam, "Iahia Khan/ Boro beiman/Bangalirey mere mere/
korechchey shoshaan".
Tokhon khub koshto hoto.
Shei koshto-tai ekhono buke niye berachchi, Hassan-bhai.
Shoumyo Dasgupta.
"Gandho-Ta boRo sondehojonok" was by Shirshendu and appeared in a
pujabarsheeki Anandamela. "Monojder odbhut baRi" was serialized in the
same magazine.
>What
>about the betals? Aranyadev, Guran and the pigmyes? Chuni Goswami's "Cony"
>was also fantastic.
Also, I liked the Riju-da stories by Buddhadeb Guha. Riju-da was my
first introduction to the idea that the environment and forests must be
protected. Buddhadeb Guha deserves our praise for having written the
first "environmentally correct" shikar-kahini-s in Bengali.
-Sayan.
Couldn't agree more ..., I really hate to see my favourite comics being
destroyed by such incompetent translation.
: 'Kony' - Moti Nandy'r. Chuni Goswami'r atmojibani holo 'Khelte Khelte'.
: Does anyone remember Nonida Not Out by Moti Nandy?
: Apra.
Yup! "Noni da notout" was in the first ever Anandamela pujabarshiki.
"Koni" was by Moti Nandi, somehow I have a feeling that the name of the
original story in pujabarshiki Anadamela was "Sha(n)taru" but I may be wrong.
The best two works of Moti Nandi IMO were 'Striker" and "Stopper", esp
"Stopper" was my favourite.
Rajiv
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: imaginary world, but it is only once are my own and shouldn't be construed in
: removed from the true world. any way to represent that of my employer.
: - Isaac Bashevis Singer.
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Rajiv Shukla writes:
>Indrani DasGupta writes:
>>Tarpor amader otuloniyo Teni-da and his constant put-downs of Pyala and
>>Habul. Achha karo-r ki 'Chaarmurti' chhobita mone aacche? Tate shei 'tel
>>diye mudi mekhe - khaabo toke' sceneta was absolutely hilarious. Also,
>Khub mone porcche, asombhab rakam er silly, I am happy to say that
>the original story didn't have any such ghastly things in it.
Actually goppe chhilo. gaan-ta onyo chhilo. "ebaar kaali tomay
khabo..." ebong taar shonge ghagra pore naach gojeshwor-er.
Apnar happiness-ta maathe mere dilum bole du:hito.
>>how about 'Podi-pishir Bormi Baksho'-r train scene-e Chhaya Debi aar
>>Chinmoy Ray-er eke onno-ke 'chup' korte bola? Ei re, very sorry. Onno
>>thread-e chole gelam.
>Apni magazine theke cinema te chole elen kano? Besh to alochona hocchilo.
Apni shobai-ke ato dhapaan kano bolun to? besh to bhalo-laga
chhobi-r goppo shuru korechhilen Indranithakrun.
Ashun to Indranithakrun amra onyo shuto khule chhobi-r
golpo kori. tokhon Rajivbabu aste chaile-o khelte nebo
na.
Regards,
Sambit
Jai hok shuktara,anadamela ebong kishore bharoti-er onek
smriti apnara phiriye dilen|
Dhynabaad
Ps:- Karo "kabandho bighrer rahashyyo" golpota money aache?
> : >> Ahh! that reminds me of "Manoj der advoot baDi", Tintins, Chuni Goswami's
> : >> "Khelte Khelte".
> : >"Gandho-ta khoob shondehojanak" - was it "Manoj der advoot baDi"? What
> : >about the betals? Aranyadev, Guran and the pigmyes? Chuni Goswami's "Cony"
> : >was also fantastic.
> : >> Rajiv
> 'Kony' - Moti Nandy'r. Chuni Goswami'r atmojibani holo 'Khelte Khelte'.
> Does anyone remember Nonida Not Out by Moti Nandy?
> Apra.
Sorry for this mistake. Don't know how I made it.
Chaitali
: >Khub mone porcche, asombhab rakam er silly, I am happy to say that
: >the original story didn't have any such ghastly things in it.
: Actually goppe chhilo. gaan-ta onyo chhilo. "ebaar kaali tomay
: khabo..." ebong taar shonge ghagra pore naach gojeshwor-er.
Yes, shudui Gajeshwar r naach r katha acche sekhane, swamiji shudhui
matha naDcchen are seth Doondhuram bolcchen "... bahoot boria gaana, dil
tar hoye galo...", cinema te je rakam bisri are ridiculous dekhiecche se rakam
nay akebarei.
: Apnar happiness-ta maathe mere dilum bole du:hito.
:-) :-)
: >Apni magazine theke cinema te chole elen kano? Besh to alochona hocchilo.
: Apni shobai-ke ato dhapaan kano bolun to? besh to bhalo-laga
: chhobi-r goppo shuru korechhilen Indranithakrun.
: Ashun to Indranithakrun amra onyo shuto khule chhobi-r
: golpo kori. tokhon Rajivbabu aste chaile-o khelte nebo
: na.
:-) Bangla cinema niye alochona korte ashbo na, bhay nei, akhono amar
atokhani kharap abostha hay ni.
: Regards,
: Sambit
Rajiv
Hyan, kintu keno bolun to amaar khali mone hochhe je Gojeshwar Teni-r
mathar upor nachhilo (praye aar ki) aar bolchhilo oi - 'tel diye mudi
mekhe khabo toke' ??? Eta tahole kothheke pelum?
Shotyi mathha-ta guliye jachhe. Bodhoy Rajiv-babur dhyatani kheye kheye.
:-)
>
>
>>how about 'Podi-pishir Bormi Baksho'-r train scene-e Chhaya Debi aar
>>>Chinmoy Ray-er eke onno-ke 'chup' korte bola? Ei re, very sorry. Onno
>>>thread-e chole gelam.
>
>>Apni magazine theke cinema te chole elen kano? Besh to alochona
hocchilo.
>
> Apni shobai-ke ato dhapaan kano bolun to? besh to bhalo-laga
> chhobi-r goppo shuru korechhilen Indranithakrun.
>
> Ashun to Indranithakrun amra onyo shuto khule chhobi-r
> golpo kori. tokhon Rajivbabu aste chaile-o khelte nebo
> na.
>
> Regards,
> Sambit
>
Shunun, v. sorry kintu ekta golper boi-er kotha na mention korlei noi.
Keu ki Sunil Gangopadhyay-er 'Bhoyonkar Sundor' podechhen? Fantastic
golpo-ta pheNdechhilen...mone podle besh shihoron jage.
Achha thhik achhe, tahole chhobi-r thread aarombho hocchhe to?
BTW, Sambit-babu, apnake tahole ki Sambit-thakur bolte hobe naki?
Indrani-thakrun.
Nope, Tenida scene ei nei Gajeshawar r sange, na cinema te na boi te,
Gajeshawar r sange explicit molakaat akmatro Pyalaram r i hoyecche,
ecchara o Habul Sen r sange hoyecche but seta implied.
|>
|> Shotyi mathha-ta guliye jachhe. Bodhoy Rajiv-babur dhyatani kheye kheye.
|> :-)
Jah Bbaba!
|>
|> >
|> >
|> >
|>
|> Shunun, v. sorry kintu ekta golper boi-er kotha na mention korlei noi.
|> Keu ki Sunil Gangopadhyay-er 'Bhoyonkar Sundor' podechhen? Fantastic
|> golpo-ta pheNdechhilen...mone podle besh shihoron jage.
Yes, besh bhalo, sei samay aro kicchu bhalo bhalo galpo porecchi, mostly
Anandamela r kalyane, Sunil r Holde barir Rahasya, Sottyi Rajputra,
Sirshendu r Gosai bagan r bhoot, Ashapurna Debi r Rajkumar r poshake,
Gaja ukil r hottya rahasya, Samaresh Basu r Moktar dadu r ketu badh etc etc.
Akhon are se rakam lekha hay na athoba amar i are sei rakam mon nei :(
|>
|> Achha thhik achhe, tahole chhobi-r thread aarombho hocchhe to?
|>
|> BTW, Sambit-babu, apnake tahole ki Sambit-thakur bolte hobe naki?
|>
|> Indrani-thakrun.
|>
Rajiv
Yes, I remember the jim Corbett translations. I used to love to read
that. Actually, I remember reading this, right before going to the
National Forest Reserve in.....what's that place in Bihar?
--
Sutapa Chattopadhyay.
> darun chchobi aankto. Shey ekbar e(n)kechchilo "Bangladesher
> Muktijudhdho" naamer ekta chchobi. Chchobita amar ekhono money aachchey.
>
> Okhanei porechchilam, "Iahia Khan/ Boro beiman/Bangalirey mere mere/
> korechchey shoshaan".
> Tokhon khub koshto hoto.
Apnar mone achhe shei somoy-er kotha? Amar shudhu curfew holeyi jNalla
badho korte hoto aar Baba-Ma radio-te khabor shunten niyom kore - ei
dutoi mone achhe beshi.
Aaro ki mone achhe ektu likhun na.
> Shoumyo Dasgupta.
Chaitali
> Yup! "Noni da notout" was in the first ever Anandamela pujabarshiki.
> "Koni" was by Moti Nandi, somehow I have a feeling that the name of the
> original story in pujabarshiki Anadamela was "Sha(n)taru" but I may be wrong.
> The best two works of Moti Nandi IMO were 'Striker" and "Stopper", esp
> "Stopper" was my favourite.
Wasn't 'Striker' also made into a film?
> Rajiv
Chaitali
Ebare deshe giye Ayan (amar chele'r) jonno onek chotoder Bangla boi niye
eshechi. bola bahullo, Ayan er theke ami nijei beshi shegulo poDi.
--
Sutapa Chattopadhyay.
IDG to besh bhalo 'Glory Days' er duto installment likhlo. Tar
ageo Dumka'y murgi'r jhol sombondhey besh bhalo likhechilo. Aro
experience thake to likhe pheluk.
Ami Betla'r kotha bolchi na. National Forest Reserve....
naam ta ekhono mone aashchey na...yes! Hazaribagh!
--
Sutapa Chattopadhyay.
Waiting,
Shoumyo.
> Ekdom chhotobelay 'Khirer Putul' pode ei petukmoni shopno dekhto putul
> gulo boshe boshe gilchhi. Aha...shopne she ki shwad chhilo!
Apni shopno dekhechilen aar amar shotti hoyechilo. Around the age of 3 or
4 , I acted in 'Khirer Putul' in school in the role of 'Shoshti Thakrun'.
Putul-ta toiri chilo kheer diye. Ota khaowar scene-er por ami aktao
dialogue moneyo rakhte parini aar bolteo paraini. Akhono shobai she niye
hNashe amar mukher opor.
> 'Rajkahini'-te Gayeb-Gayebi.
Aar Shiladiyo ba Padyini-r galpo gulo?
> 'Ho...Jo...Bo...Ro...Lo???
Aar 'Abol Tabol' ba 'Pagla Dashu'-r galpo gulo?
> Indrani.
Chaitali
[....]
>of them dating back even to the pre-independence days! The one published
>in 1947, in the afterglow of independence (and Partition) was really good.
>It was called "Ranga-rakhee".
>
Ranga-rakhee ki eto purono? Jani ote Annada Shankar-er "Teler shishi
bhanglo bole.." kobita-ta aachhe. Pujo-y aamaar onnotomo aakorshon chhilo
oi teen-te boi paoa, ekta opekkhakrito motaa onno duto'r cheye.
- samir
>-Sayan.
>
>
>
>-Sayan.
Ebarer Desh er sharodiyo shonkha'y Bimal Kar er ekta boDo golpo
poshlaam, 'Malini Chorit'. Tate Jhorapahadi bole ekta jayga'r
ullekh aachey. Sauntal Parganas e. Jhorapahadi bole ki kono jayga
sotti i aachey?
--
Sutapa Chattopadhyay.
>: Actually goppe chhilo. gaan-ta onyo chhilo. "ebaar kaali tomay
>: khabo..." ebong taar shonge ghagra pore naach gojeshwor-er.
>Yes, shudui Gajeshwar r naach r katha acche sekhane, swamiji shudhui
>matha naDcchen are seth Doondhuram bolcchen "... bahoot boria gaana, dil
>tar hoye galo...", cinema te je rakam bisri are ridiculous dekhiecche se rakam
>nay akebarei.
Ta'le thik kaake apni "silly" aar "ridiculous" bolchhen ektu
bolben kindly?
>: Ashun to Indranithakrun amra onyo shuto khule chhobi-r
>: golpo kori. tokhon Rajivbabu aste chaile-o khelte nebo
>: na.
>:-) Bangla cinema niye alochona korte ashbo na, bhay nei, akhono amar
>atokhani kharap abostha hay ni.
Jah mairi gul marben na.
Regards,
Sambit
>BTW, Sambit-babu, apnake tahole ki Sambit-thakur bolte hobe naki?
Bolte hobe amon kono kotha nei. Tobe ami to babu-tei khushi
chhilum. Ma chhotobela theke shikhiyechhe je ja bole daakbe
chNaadmukhe saDa debe. IDG shedin-i telephone-e
amay bNador bolechhe. SCB-r prothom jug-eo amake akjon
kishkindhya-r raja bolechhilen. Sutorang...
>Indrani-thakrun.
Regards,
Sambit
Mukutmanipur-e giyechhilam 1990-er bashontokaal-e amra tin bandhu. chhilam
youth hostel-e, tar caretaker-er shange akchot jhogra kore --- kanona she
thaka satweo amader porishkar chador dite chae ni!
jon-heen jaega, laal maaTi, shekhane achhe Subarnarekhar opor bnadh.
Bnadher opor diye hneta jaowa jae anek dur. bnadh-er pechhone dighir opor
nouko choRechhilam, majhi-ke mathapichhu dash taka diye. "Photo Tola
Nishedh" lekha khunti-ke joRiye dhore chhobi tulechhilam, she chhobi
akhono achhe, keu Baltimore-e ele dekhiye dite pari. Ar achhe amar shokh
kore tola cigarette khabar chhobi, jeTa dekhiye baba'r kachhe boka
kheyechhilam pore.
Ar kheyechhilam dimer dalna, akta chalagharer restaurant-e. shange chhilo
mug-er daal, ar mota chal-er bhaat. apurba legechhilo halaf kore bolte pari.
Shoumyo-babu, cholun arekbar ghure ashi.--- Subarnarekha'r jale naki shona
paowa jae.
Baidurya.
Subarnarekha Jamshedpur er kaach theke boye jay. Subarnarekha ke niye
onek chotobelakaar memories joDito aachey. apnaara keu Jhumri
Tilaiya giyechen? Khub shundor jayga. Okhaneo restaurant e
dimer dalna aar bhaat kheye khub bhalo legechilo.
--
Sutapa Chattopadhyay.
Keno Bangla cinema abaar ki dosh korlo? Aaje baje chhobi to shobai banate
paare...shey to aajkalkar Hindi/Bangla dui-i cinema-r bohor dekhei bojha
jacche.
Indrani.
Aahhh...apni asheem bhagyoboti! Amaar shopno oboshyo shopnoi thheke
gechhe. :-(
>> 'Rajkahini'-te Gayeb-Gayebi.
>
>Aar Shiladiyo ba Padyini-r galpo gulo?
bhishon mone acche. Achha bolun to...ekti chhotto chhele tar ma-er
shaathe ekti kutir-e thhake...bhil-der shaathe khela kore...kintu
aashole shey rajbongshiyo...tar naamta ki? Daaroon lagto golpo-ta.
>
>> 'Ho...Jo...Bo...Ro...Lo???
>
>Aar 'Abol Tabol' ba 'Pagla Dashu'-r galpo gulo?
Abol Tabol-er juri aaj porjontyo kothhao dekhlaam na.
Bishesh kore...'GoNpher ami, goNpher tumi...goNph diye jaye chena'-r.
>> Indrani.
>
>Chaitali
>
Arekta posting-e Muktijudhhor kotha likhechhen dekhlaam. Ami-o jante chai
kar ki mone aachhe. Amaar mone pore gaaRigulor headlight-e kaalo kagoj
diye 'half-moons'... aar siren-er aaowaj shune shiRi-r tolaye dhokbaar
instructions baba-r kachhe...janlagulote shob kalo kagoj shaNtano...
tarpor shobai mile ekshaath-e boshe 'amaar shonar Bangla...ami tomaye
bhalobaashi' gaowa...muktijodhhader food crates pathhano. Odbhhot laage
je ei judhher je bhoyaboho roopta chhilo sheta amaader (chhotoder)
kaachhe bolte gele lukono-i chhilo. Kintu je ekta shanghatik
nationalistic/patriotic bhaab amaader (chhotoder) mone toiri hoyechhilo
sheta bojha jaye ei smriti gulo thheke. Radio-te Mujib-er "shaat koti
maanushere dabaye raakhte parbana' ekbaar je shunechhe shey ki aar bhulte
paare? Amaar ek Dhakar bondhu ei thread-e khub utshuk.
Indrani.
hNan, STRIKER-e chhilo Shomit Bhanja...an actor I disliked intensely! :-)
Chhobita bhaloi hoyecchilo aboshyo.
Indrani.
Prothom prothom jokhon jetum ektai train chilo - Bombay Express. Dupurer
shurute charto se gari. Tarpor klanto monthor gotite dhire dhire pouche dito
ekebare diner seshe. Kintu train du miniter beshi thamto na tai Jhargram
perotei jatrider moddhe ekta huro-huri pore jeto.
Laal maatir sathe okhanei amar prothom porichoy. Matir rong je eto lal hote
pare Kolkatay theke ta sopneo bhaba jaay na. Ar Subarnarekha - tar je ki
apurbo roop bole bojhano jaay na. Dupur bela dekhtam shari shari adibashi
meyera
chaluni die bali chalche - tader chalunir moddhe kichu jhik-mik dekhte peyechi
kokhono sokhono. Ghatsilay kintu sotti Subarnarekhar balite shona paoa jaay.
Subarnarekha r jole neme doob deoa ar doob dite giye kokhono balite pa atke
jaoa dutoi darun mojar byapar chilo.
Amra je baritay thaktum taar naam chilo - Knach Banglow - boro mishti naam.
Baritai do tolar chad theke dekha jeto pathorer tila ar Subarnarekha nodi.
Pathorer tilar opor theke laf die matite pora - se chilo ek bishal birotter
porikkha. Sohure lokeder ei chelemanushi dekhte majhei majhei adibashider
bhir jome jeto.
Haat bosto Sukkrobare, na na "Bokshigonje Padmapare" noy Mou Bhandar er kache.
Sekhane ekta odbhut obbhigota chilo Murgir lorai. Duto Murgir paye churi bnedhe
se ek obdhut nrishongsho ullas. Proti sukkrobar raate Mou Bhandarer samner
mathe cinema dekhano hoto - shaal muri die sei baar baar reel kete jaoa cinema
dekhar kotha ekhono mone spostho hoye ache.
Aro ekta dekhar moto jinis chilo Bibhutibhushaner adi bari. Porobortikaale
oi barir samne die chole jaoa rastatir naam koron hoy Apur poth. Ghatsilay
gele Pather Pnachali ke notun kore bhalo laage.
Amar ekta priyo beranor jayga chilo Phuldungri pahar. Bombay Road periye shei
pahare pouchote besh khanikta somoy laagto. Hnaate hnaate klanto hoye porle
dekha jeto Phuldungri. Tilar ga beye beye otha rasta ar sei songe namar somoy
kharai pahar beye neme ashar uttejona ajo amar mone amolin.
Aro ekta jayga chilo Musaboni r kache. Naam Raatmohona - jemon sundor naam
temon sundor tar roop. Bhobelay surjodoy er age besh koekbar dol bnedhe gechi
sei Raatmohona ar Copper factory r kache. Sondhe bela amader bungalow r alo
tim-time hoye jeto - tokhon amar ek matro kaaj chilo akashpothe jolonto tamar
factory te dhokar drishyo dekha, apar bismoye.
Ei rokom aro koto smriti joriye ache Ghatsilar sathe ....
Indranil
> IDG to besh bhalo 'Glory Days' er duto installment likhlo. Tar
> ageo Dumka'y murgi'r jhol sombondhey besh bhalo likhechilo. Aro
> experience thake to likhe pheluk.
> Ami Betla'r kotha bolchi na. National Forest Reserve....
> naam ta ekhono mone aashchey na...yes! Hazaribagh!
Naam-ta Hazaribagh holeyo elakatake ami jotodur mone korte parchhi Betla
bole. Bhul hote paare.
Tobe Indranil-babu ganobhote apnake nirbachon kora hoechhe, ei thread shuru
korar jonno. Shuru kore felun jato taratari paren.
> Sutapa Chattopadhyay.
Chaitali
>>Achha bolun to...ekti chhotto chhele tar ma-er
>>shaathe ekti kutir-e thhake...bhil-der shaathe khela kore...kintu
>>aashole shey rajbongshiyo...tar naamta ki?
>Bappadityo.
Tai ki? Bappadityo to manush hoyechhilo ek brahmoner kachhe.
Indrani jar katha bolchhen tini bodhoy Shiladityo'r chhele Goho.
Regards,
Srabani
Oi rastar hotel-ta tilar thik nichey chchilo, kintu okhaney ekbar giye kheley
opore uthey aashata besh shromoshadhyo chchilo. Khabar hojom hoye jeto...
Mukutmoniput shomporkey arekta bolbar katha holo ei je omon charpash khola
digonto ami khub ekta dekhini. Oboshyo Iowa/ Indianar opor drive kortey kortey
she shokh harey harey mitiyechchi.
Shoumyo.
: >: Actually goppe chhilo. gaan-ta onyo chhilo. "ebaar kaali tomay
: >: khabo..." ebong taar shonge ghagra pore naach gojeshwor-er.
: >Yes, shudui Gajeshwar r naach r katha acche sekhane, swamiji shudhui
: >matha naDcchen are seth Doondhuram bolcchen "... bahoot boria gaana, dil
: >tar hoye galo...", cinema te je rakam bisri are ridiculous dekhiecche se rakam
: >nay akebarei.
: Ta'le thik kaake apni "silly" aar "ridiculous" bolchhen ektu
: bolben kindly?
Ki mushkil, cinema ta na dekhle are galpota na poDle ki kore bujhabo?
: >: Ashun to Indranithakrun amra onyo shuto khule chhobi-r
: >: golpo kori. tokhon Rajivbabu aste chaile-o khelte nebo
: >: na.
: >:-) Bangla cinema niye alochona korte ashbo na, bhay nei, akhono amar
: >atokhani kharap abostha hay ni.
: Jah mairi gul marben na.
?????????????
: Regards,
: Sambit
Rajiv
However, it reminded me of of something which I had not thought
of before: all these fictional heros, who served as role-models
for children, were MEN. The only exception was Nalini Dash's
Gandalu series, but this solitary exception only proves the rule.
I think the children's literature of a society is an accurate
index of the prevalent values of a society. It is perhaps a sad
reflection of the sexism prevalent in Bengali society as we were
growing up, that so few or none of our fictional heroes or role
models were women. I wonder if things have changed since then.
Probably not.
-Sayan.
Many thanks! Ami 1984 er pore Jamshedpur aar jaini. Othocho Jamshedpur
e manush hoyechi. Amra 1959 theke okhane chilaam, Baba 1987 e retire
koraar pore aar jaoa hoy na. Rivers Meet amader favorite picnic spot
chilo. Shaal bone gulo amader purono badi theke khub kaache chilo.
--
Sutapa Chattopadhyay.
Bappadityo.
-Sayan.
Ei proshonge mone poDe gelo, Deshe (the magazine) ek kaale ek pata ekta
jokes er column beroto (koyekta boDoder holeo poDte besh bhalo lagto!).
Karur shei series theke kichu mone ache?
-JB
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Joydeep Bhattacharya
Department of Economics
Cornell University
Ithaca NY 14853-7601
Phone (607) 256 2310
Fax (607) 255 2818
E-mail: jb...@cornell.edu
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BB> Mukutmanipur-e giyechhilam 1990-er bashontokaal-e amra tin bandhu. chhilam
BB> youth hostel-e, tar caretaker-er shange akchot jhogra kore --- kanona she
BB> thaka satweo amader porishkar chador dite chae ni!
...
BB> Ar kheyechhilam dimer dalna, akta chalagharer restaurant-e. shange chhilo
BB> mug-er daal, ar mota chal-er bhaat. apurba legechhilo halaf kore bolte pari.
Ei proshonge mon-e porchhe amader Sagar Dwip berano. Ekhono jib-e
lege achhe Kak Dwip-er bus stand-e rui machher jhol aar bhat. Tarpor
noukei kor-e Sagar Dwip. Shorgiyo Shivtosh-babu (Ashutosh Mukherjee-r
nati) chhilen amader shonge. Bhorbela uthe uni moja kor-e bolten --
"Cholo he k(n)akrar gorte jol diye ashi!"
Koekdin ag-e Florida-te berate giye Atlantic Ocean-er par-e dariye
khali desh-er kotha mon-e hochhilo. Puri, Darjeeling, Shantiniketan
... ekta buk anchan kor-a betha jege utchhilo ...
-Shubu
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Which time frame are you talking about. What I remember from Desh
Weekly are:
o Cartoons by Kutty
o Sunando'r Journal. Narayan Gangopadhyay died in 1970 or 71 and that
stopped. It was hilarous. Does anyone know whether those journals are
available as a collection?
o Rupodarshi'r Sangbad-vashyai by GourKishore Ghose: Sometimes good and
sometimes OK. Also too right-wing for my taste, most of the time.
Anything else? I started reading Desh quite young, mainly because of
Aranyadeb comics. Too bad, they stopped publishing Aranyadeb about
3 years ago.
>
>-JB
>====================================================
>Joydeep Bhattacharya
>Department of Economics
>Cornell University
>Ithaca NY 14853-7601
>Phone (607) 256 2310
>Fax (607) 255 2818
>E-mail: jb...@cornell.edu
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>
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> I already mentioned Buddhadeb Guha's Riju-da stories in another post.
> Most other "shikar kahini-s" in Bengali are horrible -- they are
> violent and do not teach the importance of living in harmony with
> nature and conserving wild animals. An exception is Mahashwets Debi's
> translation of Jim Corbett, which was a pleasure to read.
Riju-da stories temon bhalo chilo na Sayan. She apni jayi bolun
"environment friendly" aar jayi bolun na kano. Taar cheye Jim Corbett-er
translation-O poDte bhalo lagto. Aar Narayan Gangopadhyay-er akta
bibhotsho roshe ranga shikaar-er galpo achhe. Naam-ta mone neyi.
PoDechhen keu?
> -Sayan.
Chaitali
Darun bhalo laglo poDe. Apni shotti shotti amader-ke Subranarekha-r pash
diye beDiye anlen.
> Indranil
Dhonyobaad
Chaitali
: hNan, STRIKER-e chhilo Shomit Bhanja...an actor I disliked intensely! :-)
: Chhobita bhaloi hoyecchilo aboshyo.
: Indrani.
Very true, but then again can you name even one actor/actress in the history
of Bengali movies who was/is likable? :)
BTW Striker as a movie was horrible and terribly disappointing, I remember
Samit Bhanja, Anil Chaterjee, probably Arati(?) and Ruma Guhathakurta,
all of them performed horribly as usual.
: You missed out Sandesh! It was one of the best. All of Satyajit Ray's
: short stories, some of Pheluda's, all of his translations, jakhon chhoto
: chhilam, molla naseeruddin and Tarini KhuRo would come out in Sandesh. He
: would also illustrate other stories from time to time. Like Manjil Sen's
: Gandalu series. Then Sandesh would publish Leela Majumdars wonderful
^^^^^^^
Since when?
Gandalu(Goenda Gandalu) was Ms. Nalini Das's creation! Manjil Sen
had nothing whatever to do with it.
: After Anandemela's abysmal downfall ( I presume that happended when
: Niren Chakraborty left) Sandesh was the only quality magazine for children
: that came out of Calcutta.
yeah?
: I already mentioned Buddhadeb Guha's Riju-da stories in another post.
: Most other "shikar kahini-s" in Bengali are horrible -- they are
: violent and do not teach the importance of living in harmony with
: nature and conserving wild animals. An exception is Mahashwets Debi's
: translation of Jim Corbett, which was a pleasure to read.
: -Sayan.
Buddhadev Guha, as usual messed up the charm of these Riju da stories
by introducing a lady character(Teeteer) in this series.
Dont remember exactly; maybe 1982-84.
-Joydeep
> I think the children's literature of a society is an accurate
> index of the prevalent values of a society. It is perhaps a sad
> reflection of the sexism prevalent in Bengali society as we were
> growing up, that so few or none of our fictional heroes or role
> models were women.
Even the kind of toys with which little girls and boys play are very
different. Girls tend to play with dols and kitchen utensils while the
boys play with balls, toy guns and things like that. Not only do they
reflect the prevalent values of society, they also have some other far
reaching effects in shaping the needs of the two genders.
Please don't brand the whole thing under the label of 'sexism prevalent
in Bengali society'. How many woman detectives have we seen in world
literature either? Literature just reflects the reality. As more women
will go into these professions, we will see its reflection on literature
also.
> I wonder if things have changed since then.
> Probably not.
With respect to toys, I think it has changed. Now little girls are also
playing with toy guns....:-) But in literature it will take a few more
generations to see so much of a noticable change.
> -Sayan.
Chaitali
RS> : hNan, STRIKER-e chhilo Shomit Bhanja...an actor I disliked intensely! :-)
RS> : Chhobita bhaloi hoyecchilo aboshyo.
RS> : Indrani.
RS> Very true,
Then again Samit Bhanja wasn't bad in Sobuj Dwiper Raja!
RS> but then again can you name even one actor/actress in the history
RS> of Bengali movies who was/is likable? :)
You must be kidding.
RS> BTW Striker as a movie was horrible and terribly disappointing, I remember
RS> Samit Bhanja, Anil Chaterjee, probably Arati(?) and Ruma Guhathakurta,
RS> all of them performed horribly as usual.
Anil Chatterjee? Bad actor as usual? Shukla-babu, you must be
kidding here as well!
>BTW Striker as a movie was horrible and terribly disappointing, I
remember
>Samit Bhanja, Anil Chaterjee, probably Arati(?) and Ruma Guhathakurta,
>all of them performed horribly as usual.
>
>Rajiv
>
Aaccha Rajiv-babu - apnaar thhik kon kon bangla chhobi bhaalo lage ektu
likhun na!
Shune amaader shokoler ektu funda baDbe. :-)
Indrani.
Hyan...kintu tahole HAMBIR ke???
Indrani.
> translation-O poDte bhalo lagto. Aar Narayan Gangopadhyay-er akta
> bibhotsho roshe ranga shikaar-er galpo achhe. Naam-ta mone neyi.
> PoDechhen keu?
"Tope" ki? Gorib projar bachha-ke bagher tope hishebe byabohar korar
byapar chhilo tate. Jomidar-er choritro-ta jatra-r dushtu raja type-r
chhilo.
poDe besh lomhorshok legechhilo. ota poDar por, NG-r aro kichhu golpo
poDechhilam, kintu tamon jomey ni.
"Chorabali" ba "Royal Bengal Rohoshyo" thik shikarer golpo noy, tobe
oi dhoroner akta flavour achhe bole mone hoyechhilo. Boroncho Tarini-
khuDor akta regular shikarer golpo achhe -- nam mone nei. Sheta tamon
bhalo lagey ni.
mandar.
How many woman detectives have we seen in world
^^^^^^
>literature either? Literature just reflects the reality. As more women
>will go into these professions, we will see its reflection on literature
>also.
>Chaitali
What about Nancy Drew, Miss Marple, Miss Smilla (of Smilla's Sense of
Snow fame), the BBC TV series Prime Suspect, X-files (our very own Fox
show), Miss Qincaid and Mrs. van Duren (Law and Order on NBC)....
The list is increasing!
:-)
-JB
Jamshedpur-e chhotobelay giyechhi, Subarnarekha dekhechhi kina mone
nei. Tobe apnar/Samirbabur lekha-o besh drishyoman.
Bangalider, bishesh kore kolkatar bangalider, beranor batik
achhe. Tourism-e ato poysha bharoter onyo kono jaygar lokeder ami orate
dekhi ni. Eta ekta shongshkritigoto byapaar bodh-hoy.
Berate jara bhalobashen tara janen er nesha kirokom. Cinemar moto por
por drishyobodol-er akorshon. Ei akorshonei chhotobela bus-e uthle
janlar dhar niye
didir shathe jhamela hoto. Akhono shei byadhi dur hoy ni. Plane-e uthe
kichhu dekhte pabo na jeneo janlar dhar na pele mon khNut khNut kore.
IDG.
Apni ki Narayan Gangopadhyay'r "Top" galpatar katha bolchhen? -- Adbhut
romharshak galpa!
Baidurya.
>Sayan Bhattacharya writes
>
>>Bappadityo.
>
>Tai ki? Bappadityo to manush hoyechhilo ek brahmoner kachhe.
>Indrani jar katha bolchhen tini bodhoy Shiladityo'r chhele Goho.
>
>Srabani
My copy of _Rajkahini_ is several thousand kilometres away, so I
cannot check. However, I suspect that Srabani is (as usual) correct.
-Sayan.
> Indrani DasGupta (ID2...@american.edu) wrote:
>
> : hNan, STRIKER-e chhilo Shomit Bhanja...an actor I disliked intensely! :-)
> : Chhobita bhaloi hoyecchilo aboshyo.
>
> : Indrani.
>
> Very true, but then again can you name even one actor/actress in the history
> of Bengali movies who was/is likable? :)
This is very unfair on your part. Why we can name quite many people whom
we liked in Bengali movies.
Actors :
Shuvendu, Uttam K., Soumitro etc.
Actresses :
Madhobi, Suchitra, Savitri, Aparna etc.
> BTW Striker as a movie was horrible and terribly disappointing, I remember
> Samit Bhanja, Anil Chaterjee, probably Arati(?) and Ruma Guhathakurta,
> all of them performed horribly as usual.
Rajiv, standard-ta ektu naman. Apnar shonge taal rakhte giye to amra
najehaal hoye jachhi. Chotobelate oi cinema-ta ato kharap lageni, apni
jatota kharap bolchhen.
> Rajiv
Chaitali
: Aaccha Rajiv-babu - apnaar thhik kon kon bangla chhobi bhaalo lage ektu
: likhun na!
: Shune amaader shokoler ektu funda baDbe. :-)
: Indrani.
Hard to tell, can't recall any movie I'd care to talk about, even then I'd
like to mention a few I didn't atleast dislike :)
a) GupiGayne-BaghaByne(Satyajit Ray)
b) AponJone(Tapan Sinha)
c) I can't recall the name, made by Tapan Sinha, Rabi Ghosh came as
servant and did miracle for a family(I think there is a Hindi version
by Rajesh Khanna), Rabi Ghosh did a pretty OK job here even though
I intensely dislike his acting in general.
d) Nimontron(?)( can't recall the director, Anoop Kumar and Sandhya Roy
did a pretty OK job especially compared to their usual low calibre
performances )
Hope I contributed to your increased funda.
: >>>>> In article <4iu8ss$o...@athos.cc.bellcore.com>, rajiv@magazine (Rajiv Shukla) writes:
: Then again Samit Bhanja wasn't bad in Sobuj Dwiper Raja!
yeah? IMO the movie Sobuj Dwiper Raja stinks. I still can't help
laughing when I recall Santu making some weird Karate kicks in the
movie, the actual story was atleast somewhat credible.
: RS> but then again can you name even one actor/actress in the history
: RS> of Bengali movies who was/is likable? :)
: You must be kidding.
NOPE!
: RS> BTW Striker as a movie was horrible and terribly disappointing, I remember
: RS> Samit Bhanja, Anil Chaterjee, probably Arati(?) and Ruma Guhathakurta,
: RS> all of them performed horribly as usual.
: Anil Chatterjee? Bad actor as usual? Shukla-babu, you must be
: kidding here as well!
Let's put it this way, I dislike his nasal voice and his unnatural
threatricality doesn't convince me. That is not to say that I have
anything against him as a person or everybody else should dislke
him and things like that. I hope Anil Chatterjee RIP.
: -Shubu
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Good grief Sayan! which of the above mentioned characters served as
our role model, for me none of them was a role model I can assure you.
BTW what about Kyabla, he was the most intelligent and resourceful
of the chaar murti.
>However, it reminded me of of something which I had not thought
>of before: all these fictional heros, who served as role-models
>for children, were MEN. The only exception was Nalini Dash's
>Gandalu series, but this solitary exception only proves the rule.
>
Hmmm! what about Krishna series by Probhaboti debi Saraswati?
Krishna was indeed pretty cool :)
Also why don't you ask the lady netters of SCB, I have a feeling
that none of them bothered to make role models out of this
characters, trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill, eh?
When I was a small kid, my Dida read me "amar naam Taira" by
Sailen Ghosh, I still remember the little girl Taira doing all
sorts of things which Feluda never had to do, a magnificent
story for the children, what do you have to say about that?
Rajiv
: Hyan...kintu tahole HAMBIR ke???
: Indrani.
Bhilder shathe khela korechhe Goho-i. Hambir Bhilder shathe moteo bhalo
babohar koren ni. Bhilraj Munjo-r shathe bondhutwo kore tarpor akdin tar
mathatai kete phellen. Besh morbid golpo.
Indranil.
Sincerely,
Baidurya.
: > I think the children's literature of a society is an accurate
: > index of the prevalent values of a society. It is perhaps a sad
: > reflection of the sexism prevalent in Bengali society as we were
: > growing up, that so few or none of our fictional heroes or role
: > models were women.
: Even the kind of toys with which little girls and boys play are very
: different. Girls tend to play with dols and kitchen utensils while the
: boys play with balls, toy guns and things like that. Not only do they
: reflect the prevalent values of society, they also have some other far
: reaching effects in shaping the needs of the two genders.
Aapni soja sei standard stereotyping chole gelen deckchi..is it that
'Girls tend to play with dols and kitchen utensils while the
boys play with balls, toy guns and things like that' or girls are given
dolls and kitchen utensils while boys are given balls,toy guns et al to play
with? Aapni soja Jensenism-ke sothik promanitho korey deben dekchi. Hai-re
Leon J Kamin..biological determinism-er apnaar example-ti kintu much
quoted and debated issue.
: Please don't brand the whole thing under the label of 'sexism prevalent
: in Bengali society'. How many woman detectives have we seen in world
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: literature either? Literature just reflects the reality. As more women
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: will go into these professions, we will see its reflection on literature
: also.
Bangla detective sahitya bodhoi Provabothi Devi Saraswathi-r Krishna was
probably the first women detective. Her series of detective novels came
parallel to Sabaysachi, Hemendra Kumar Roy et al Prohelika, Kanchenjunga
Series et al published by Deb Sahityo Kutir Pub. World literature-e Agatha
Christie-r abhisworoniyo sristhi Miss Marple thekey Nancy Drew-r udhoron
acchey..tobey purush detective noveli-ar tulonai khoobi kom.
: > I wonder if things have changed since then.
: > Probably not.
: With respect to toys, I think it has changed. Now little girls are also
: playing with toy guns....:-) But in literature it will take a few more
: generations to see so much of a noticable change.
: > -Sayan.
: Chaitali
rgds,
Anindya
--
email address: agho...@eng2.uconn.edu
> : >Sayan Bhattacharya writes
> : >>Bappadityo.
> : >Regards,
> : >Srabani
> : Hyan...kintu tahole HAMBIR ke???
> : Indrani.
> Indranil.
Achha 'Bappadityo' galpe akta gaan chilo jeta prothom jibon-e Bappadityo
taar shokhi-r shonge geyechilo. Sheshe mrityu-r por arekbar shei
gaan-tar ullekh achhe. Sheta apnader karur mone achhe?
"Shedin dujon-e dulechinu bon-e" gaan-ta shunlei amar kamon 'Bappadityo'
galpo-ta mone poDe jaye.
Chaitali
> Shubu Mukherjee (sh...@cs.wisc.edu) wrote:
>
> : Then again Samit Bhanja wasn't bad in Sobuj Dwiper Raja!
>
> yeah? IMO the movie Sobuj Dwiper Raja stinks. I still can't help
> laughing when I recall Santu making some weird Karate kicks in the
> movie, the actual story was atleast somewhat credible.
Apni ki konodin choto chilen? Ebbar amar shotti shondeho jagchhe. Choto
chelera oirokom "weird Karate kicks"-I daye. Noeto tader shonge to aar
black belt-der kono tofat-I thakto na!!!
> : RS> but then again can you name even one actor/actress in the history
> : RS> of Bengali movies who was/is likable? :)
>
> : You must be kidding.
>
> NOPE!
Amon capital letter-e likhlei shotti hoye jaabe naaki? Ashun to Shubu
amra puro "You must be kidding" sentence-ta capital-e likhe diyi.
> : RS> BTW Striker as a movie was horrible and terribly disappointing, I remember
> : RS> Samit Bhanja, Anil Chaterjee, probably Arati(?) and Ruma Guhathakurta,
> : RS> all of them performed horribly as usual.
> : Anil Chatterjee? Bad actor as usual? Shukla-babu, you must be
> : kidding here as well!
> Let's put it this way, I dislike his nasal voice and his unnatural
> threatricality doesn't convince me. That is not to say that I have
> anything against him as a person or everybody else should dislke
> him and things like that. I hope Anil Chatterjee RIP.
Besh eta nahoye mana galo, je ei bishesh actor-ke apnar bhalo laage na
athochho amader laage.
> : -Shubu
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Rajiv Shukla My opinions are mine.
> ra...@ctt.bellcore.com I don't speak for my
> Bell Communications Research employer.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chaitali
> Indrani DasGupta (ID2...@american.edu) wrote:
>
> : Aaccha Rajiv-babu - apnaar thhik kon kon bangla chhobi bhaalo lage ektu
> : likhun na!
>
> : Shune amaader shokoler ektu funda baDbe. :-)
> Hope I contributed to your increased funda.
>
> Rajiv
Ki Indrani, funda beDechhe?..:-)
Chaitali
>Achha 'Bappadityo' galpe akta gaan chilo jeta prothom jibon-e Bappadityo
>taar shokhi-r shonge geyechilo. Sheshe mrityu-r por arekbar shei
>gaan-tar ullekh achhe. Sheta apnader karur mone achhe?
'Aju ki ananda, jhulat jhulane milan chanda ...'
(IDG, Rajkahini dekhe ektu check kore debe?)
Eta Bappaditya geyechhilen kina jani na, kintu AIR'e eta ekbar
shunechhilam. Raag'ta chinte parini, ar AIR jehetu gayika'r naam'ta
seshe arekbar kore bale ni, kar gaowa shetao jante parini. Cassette'e
nei (anoto ami khNuje pai ni). Ar keu shunechhen? Mandar, Sambit,
onno keu?
Proshangata, Rangmashal ar Mouchak'r ullekh dekhlam na to? Senior
lokjonder kachhe e'i proshno ... amr paRa as usual National Library
theke. Kalke amar bou'ke
Rangmashal'r sampadak'r champabaran kanya
Shamasta tar bhalo Ghar korechhen alo
Dosh'r modhye kebol tini rattire ghumon na |
shuniye khub hashiyechhi. Chhotbela'r chhaRa niye ekta thread'e ar
keu agrohi haben?
>Chaitali
Apratim.
--
No doubt the world is entirely an Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are
imaginary world, but it is only once are my own and shouldn't be construed in
removed from the true world. any way to represent that of my employer.
- Isaac Bashevis Singer.
CB> On 23 Mar 1996, Rajiv Shukla wrote:
>> Shubu Mukherjee (sh...@cs.wisc.edu) wrote:
>> : RS> but then again can you name even one actor/actress in the history
>> : RS> of Bengali movies who was/is likable? :)
>>
>> : You must be kidding.
>>
>> NOPE!
CB> Amon capital letter-e likhlei shotti hoye jaabe naaki? Ashun to Shubu
CB> amra puro "You must be kidding" sentence-ta capital-e likhe diyi.
:-) :-) :-)
Ekta pattern dekte pachhi. According to Shukla-babu Bangla actor-ra
shobai pa(n)tha and JU-r jonota internet ki jaan-e na bol-e ekke-bar-e
gadha. Ei pa(n)tha aar gadha-r rajott-e Shukla-babu etodin katalen ki
kor-e bolun to? Oh yeah, I am still wondering! :-)
Kirokom ekta Nirod-babu Nirod-babu godho pachhi Shukla-ji-r kothai! :-)
Babbah...aajkal ekhene eshe boshle-i funda baDe. Porikhha torikhha to
maathhaaye uthheche. Kaaj taaj-er balai nei. Amaar eto 'new and
increased' funDa dekhhe amaar aager shob praner bondhu-ra dekchi pogaar
paar (bhoy-e baa onno kichu)! Er ekta biheet korte-i hobe...noile sheshe
ami-o ekdin Rajiv-babur moto kotha bolte/likhte shuru kore dobo.
:-)
Indrani.
> 'Aju ki ananda, jhulat jhulane milan chanda ...'
> Eta Bappaditya geyechhilen kina jani na, kintu AIR'e eta ekbar
Eta dubaar chhilo na? Akbar shokhira gaibe, arekbaar
bappadityo?
> shunechhilam. Raag'ta chinte parini, ar AIR jehetu gayika'r naam'ta
> seshe arekbar kore bale ni, kar gaowa shetao jante parini. Cassette'e
> nei (anoto ami khNuje pai ni). Ar keu shunechhen? Mandar, Sambit,
> onno keu?
Absoltely mone nei, tobe boshontotsob-er gaan to, Basant-e
hole ashchorjyo hobo na. :)
> shuniye khub hashiyechhi. Chhotbela'r chhaRa niye ekta thread'e ar
> keu agrohi haben?
Bel pakle tomar ki? Tumi bole Sayan-er shonge torko korar-i
somoy pachchho na!
Regards,
Sambit
> Absoltely mone nei, tobe boshontotsob-er gaan to, Basant-e
> hole ashchorjyo hobo na. :)
Ghuriye g***u bolchho? :-)
> Bel pakle tomar ki? Tumi bole Sayan-er shonge torko korar-i
> somoy pachchho na!
Sayan'ke ami tajyo kore diyechhi. Jak ge, balo to eta kar lekha, kon
boi:
Bhut'r jomi
Bhut'r jomi
Bhutperet'r
Naiko komi
URchhe katok
Bhanbhoniye
Cholchhe katok
Shanshoniye
Din dupure
BaduR ghumoi
Raat dupure
Hutom thumoi
BhNodor bham
Byang byangachi
Tiktiki ar
Kanamachhi ...
> Regards,
> Sambit
Regards,
Apra.
B> In article <4j11h3$7...@athos.cc.bellcore.com> rajiv@magazine (Rajiv Shukla) writes:
>>
>> Hard to tell, can't recall any movie I'd care to talk about, even then I'd
>> like to mention a few I didn't atleast dislike :)
>>
...
>> c) I can't recall the name, made by Tapan Sinha, Rabi Ghosh came as
>> servant and did miracle for a family(I think there is a Hindi version
>> by Rajesh Khanna), Rabi Ghosh did a pretty OK job here even though
>> I intensely dislike his acting in general.
The name of the movie is "Golpo Holeo Shotti". The Hindi version was
called "Baburchi". At the beginning of Baburchi you can hear Amitabh
Bachhan's voice.
-Shubu
PS: Anyone remembers "Boshonto Bilap" starring Aparna Sen and Soumitra
Chatterjee? It has Arati's famous song "Ami Miss Calcutta 1976,
Ekhhon-o to keu jan-e na amar statistics"?
Will that be a problem?
Rajiv
: Indrani.
--
: This is very unfair on your part. Why we can name quite many people whom
: we liked in Bengali movies.
: Actors :
: Shuvendu, Uttam K., Soumitro etc.
: Actresses :
: Madhobi, Suchitra, Savitri, Aparna etc.
I rest my case.
: > BTW Striker as a movie was horrible and terribly disappointing, I remember
: > Samit Bhanja, Anil Chaterjee, probably Arati(?) and Ruma Guhathakurta,
: > all of them performed horribly as usual.
: Rajiv, standard-ta ektu naman. Apnar shonge taal rakhte giye to amra
: najehaal hoye jachhi. Chotobelate oi cinema-ta ato kharap lageni, apni
: jatota kharap bolchhen.
: > Rajiv
: Chaitali
I am fully aware that everybody is entitled to his/her opinion, so there.
Rajiv
: >Achha 'Bappadityo' galpe akta gaan chilo jeta prothom jibon-e Bappadityo
: >taar shokhi-r shonge geyechilo. Sheshe mrityu-r por arekbar shei
: >gaan-tar ullekh achhe. Sheta apnader karur mone achhe?
: 'Aju ki ananda, jhulat jhulane milan chanda ...'
: (IDG, Rajkahini dekhe ektu check kore debe?)
HNya thik-i likhechho. Erpor keu Bappadityer puro golpo post korte bolle
boita hariye phelte hobe.
Indranil.
>> Absoltely mone nei, tobe boshontotsob-er gaan to, Basant-e
>> hole ashchorjyo hobo na. :)
> Ghuriye g***u bolchho? :-)
Ghuriye abar kothay bollum? :) :)
Na, seriously jaanina. Mandar - jokhin chup kore aachhe - nishchoi
jaane.
> Sayan'ke ami tajyo kore diyechhi.
Erokom korona mairi. dekhchho na tai o kirokom chhonner moton
ghure beDachchhe. Even tax-fax debar kotha bhabchhe.
> Jak ge, balo to eta kar lekha, kon
> boi:
> Bhut'r jomi
> Bhut'r jomi
[...]
> Tiktiki ar
> Kanamachhi ...
"bhutpotri..." ki? Andaj-e chhaDlum.
Ta'le eta bolo:
nai mama bolilen kana mama-ke
bhagna bhagni nai, tai amake...
[karur purota mone aachhe? Post korben?]
Regards,
Sambit
Amaar mone hoi eta 'aaju ki ananda...jhulata jhulane shyamara chanda'
hobe.
Indrani.
Ei...maane...oi je bolchhilum na...maane amaar bondhu-ra...amaar upor
already moha khappa...erpor hoyto Indranil-babur moto bonduk-tonduk kine
boshe aarki!
Indrani.
>Rajiv
>
>: Indrani.
>Achha 'Bappadityo' galpe akta gaan chilo jeta prothom jibon-e Bappadityo
>taar shokhi-r shonge geyechilo. Sheshe mrityu-r por arekbar shei
>gaan-tar ullekh achhe. Sheta apnader karur mone achhe?
jhulata jhulane shyamarchand?
I could be completely wrong of course.
>"Shedin dujon-e dulechinu bon-e" gaan-ta shunlei amar kamon 'Bappadityo'
>galpo-ta mone poDe jaye.
ar amar ashabari shunle pritthiraj mone pare| :-)
Amitabha
--
Amitabha Lahiri MAPS University of Sussex A.La...@central.susx.ac.uk
No one else is responsible for what I say and vice versa.
Today it's the Bengalis, tomorrow it will be you.
: Amaar mone hoi eta 'aaju ki ananda...jhulata jhulane shyamara chanda'
: hobe.
: Indrani.
Right-o. Ota Shyamar Chanda-i hobe.
Indranil.
I am not so sure. In the mid-1980s, the Calcutta Telephone Directory had
a front-page advertisement by Peerless saying "Son's Education? Daughter's
Marriage? Investing money with Peerless can help you...etc, etc". Now people
who can afford to invest in Peerless are, obviously, affluent, wealthy and
presumably educated people. Then why did the advertisement appeal to them
using the insinuation that money is worth spending on the "son's education"
and "daughter's marriage", i.e. the daughter's education is not as important!
I do not remember any affluent and educated Bengali protesting against this
blatantly sexist comment on the front page of a high-visibility commodity like
the telephone directory.
-Sayan.