Prem, porashona o banglar tarunira
Sibabrata Ray
>Jiggesh korun apnar porichito kono bangali taruni-ke she prem korche ki
>na? Na bolle miththe bolche.
Like mustarbation? nira-nabbui shatAngsha purush ja kore Ar bAki ak
shatAngsha jA niye mitthe bale?
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Sibabrata Ray
tor dAdA hishebe tor bAnAn shang-shodhan karA AmAr jurisdiction-er
madhye pare. ShutarAng ----
>Ki je bolen dAdA, oi ektA jinis-i to korAr Achhe bAnglA-te.
jinish
>Prem bina bangali se ki bhaba jaye naki. Kolkatar bus-e badur jhola,
bAngAli bhAbA jAy nAki kolkAtAr bAdur jholA
Oh, too many, far too many spelling mistakes. Correct others yourself.
Pradipta Sarkar
si...@cse.unl.edu (Sibabrata Ray) writes:
>psa...@iastate.edu (Pradipta Sarkar) writes:
>tor dAdA hishebe tor bAnAn shang-shodhan karA AmAr jurisdiction-er
>madhye pare. ShutarAng ----
>>Ki je bolen dAdA, oi ektA jinis-i to korAr Achhe bAnglA-te.
jinish
>>Prem bina bangali se ki bhaba jaye naki. Kolkatar bus-e badur jhola,
> bAngAli bhAbA jAy nAki kolkAtAr bAdur jholA
>Oh, too many, far too many spelling mistakes. Correct others yourself.
are(aare,Are) sibu-da ki niyam follow kara (karA, karaa) hobe
tai(taai,tAi) to ekhono thik hoy ni. sutorang (sutoraang,sutorAng)
kon niyam mene sangshodhan korbo ? ami bivinno rakam banan
(dekhechho 'banan' banan niyeo ki rakam problem !) try kore
dekhchhi konta (kontaa, kontA) bhalo (bhaalo,bhAlo) lage.
Pradipta Sarkar
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Paul Khokan Chandra
%%Jakei dekhi shei prem korche. Orthatt ar kichui korche na. Na porashona,
%%na kheladhulo, na ghorer kaj. Bangali meyeder hoyeche-ta ki?
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%%brohmo-hotyar moto paap. Jibonanondo dasher amole to co-ed college-e
%%`perem' kothata bolle shikkhoker chaakri jeto. Shei oitihashik
%%bangladeshe aj erokom hochche kano keu bolte paren?
Indranil babu,
Aponi ki bhule jachchhen je eprithibir prai shobkichhui paltachchhe.
Meyera tader dabi adayer jonnyo mathe nemechhe ar tothakothito prem o
oder nyajjyo odhikar. Sutoran oder prem prem khela oder khelte din,
disturb kore ki hobe bolun!!
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>
>%%Jakei dekhi shei prem korche. Orthatt ar kichui korche na. Na porashona,
>%%na kheladhulo, na ghorer kaj. Bangali meyeder hoyeche-ta ki?
>
>%%Othocho bish tirish bochor aageo erokom chilo na. Prem kora chilo
>%%brohmo-hotyar moto paap. Jibonanondo dasher amole to co-ed college-e
>%%`perem' kothata bolle shikkhoker chaakri jeto. Shei oitihashik
>%%bangladeshe aj erokom hochche kano keu bolte paren?
>
Bangali meyera prem pele prem kore phelchhen, aar chepe rakhte parchhen na,
ba chaichhen na - eta to khub-i chintar kotha.
chintito roilam
Arya
Sambit Basu
>Sramana Mitra (smi...@HING.LCS.MIT.EDU) wrote:
>: Bangali chhelera akebare meyeder k(n)ore angule nache, ki balo?
>: Sramana
>Madam,
>Shudhu bangali kano, puro prithibir chelerai meyeder kore angule
>nache.
Eta akebaar-e lakh kothar ak kotha bolechhen - bisheshoto bibahito torun-ra.:-)
aar ku-lok-e bole chhelebelay boDo-ra naki eishob taruni-der-i "chheldhora"
bole bachcha chheleder bhoy dekhay!:-))
tobe mone hoyna keu-i karur dike takiye aachhe bole, kenona shobaar drishti-i
aaj gholate.
>Indranil.
Regards,
Sambit
ps. Desparately seeking flame!
Sramana Mitra
>
> Shudhu bangali kano, puro prithibir chelerai meyeder kore angule
> nache.
>
> taakiye ache Tapash Pal-er/ Rabindranath-er dike.
>
> Indranil.
You are looking in the wrong crowd. Je torunira Tapas Pal'er dike takiye
achhe, tader sange prem karbar ichhe... nah! kichhu balbar nei.
Rabindranath aar Tapas Pal ek category'te phele dile'i ba ki bala jai!
Adhunik juger nari challenge khonje. Kore angule jake nachano
jai take bhalobasha jai ki? Sambit, Indranil --- je torunider katha
likhechho tara bangali meye'r representative?
Indranil - I don't suppose you're searching. Sambit - wish you luck,
especially in enlightening yourself!!! And here's a little tip: even
if you feel like someone has you wrapped around her little finger,
hide it!
Sramana
Anindya Basu
Indranil DasGupta <dgu...@buphy.bu.edu> wrote:
.....
>Ashun amra poroshporer bhai-bon-der, chelemeyeder upor najor rakhi.
>Ashun, lukiye tader chithi o kobitar khata pori. Ashun protiti paray
>gore tuli citizens' committee against prem.AmAmader shokoler milito
>procheshtay ei bangladesh kormider desh, shadhokder desh hoye uthuk.
>
>
>Joy bangla !
>
>Indranil.
Shadhok -Shadhika -r pokkhe KAAM hochche BISHOBOT porityajyo .
Otoeb apnar kotha mante hole bangali jaat er ei tai shesh projonmo .
Othoba ,jodi mukh bikrito kore bangali SHADHOK _SHADHIKA ra kono krome
KAAM er Ogni-porikkha paar hoye duek ti shishu-r jonmo dieo faale ,
Taholeo poroborti projonmo-er gerua panjabi-aar lungi pora jogi-jubok
aar sonyashini-juboti der jwalano Dhup-er D(n)oway to Bangla ondhokar
hoye jabe dada !! :-) Tader shomobeto naad-o brohmer taronay aam-ra
jara tokhon older generation bole gonno hobo tader to tishtono
dai hoye d(n)arabe ...
Justa thought ...
Regards,
-Anindya .
--
Anindya Basu /``````````````````//~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ . :) (:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sambit Basu
>You are looking in the wrong crowd. Je torunira Tapas Pal'er dike takiye
>achhe, tader sange prem karbar ichhe... nah!
Eta to personal preference-er byapaar. Ustad Amir Khan (ustad-ta lagatei
holo, aajkaal loke Amir Khan bolle-i filmstar-ke bojhe!:-( ) Hemanta
Mukherjee-r Hindi chotul gaan shunte khub bhalobasten. Analogy-ta puro millo
na, kintu ami jeta bolte chichhi sheta holo je karur Tapas Pal-ke bhalo lagar
shonge she "as a human being" kamon tar kono sombondho nei.
>kichhu balbar nei.
>Rabindranath aar Tapas Pal ek category'te phele dile'i ba ki bala jai!
Exactly, e byapaar-e kichchhu bolaar nei Indranilbabu-ke!!!
>Adhunik juger nari challenge khonje.
^^^^
Eta to pray "Sananda"r article-er kotha hoye galo. Jano "adhunik juger purush"
challenge khNoje naa. Gone are the days, jokhon Writer's Building-er ekti
sorkaari clerical job-i chorom aakankhaa chhilo. Aar challenge khNoja-r
shonge "prem"-er ki somporko? Jodi na "prem" byapar-ta akta professional
britti kore fela hoy. And that is exactly what my point is. Aajkaal
"chaakri korchhi", "poDashona korchhi"r moton "prem korchhi"tao akta
full-time profession hoye gachhe.
>Kore angule jake nachano
>jai take bhalobasha jai ki? Sambit, Indranil --- je torunider katha
>likhechho tara bangali meye'r representative?
If majority is considered as representative, tahole khub dukkhojonok
hole-o eta sotti je ei meye-rai bangali meye-r representative. Akhono
kota bangali meye "challenge" khNoje? Jara khNoje tara kono percentage-ei asbe
na. akhono majority bangali meye-r uchchaakankha "akta bhalo biye kore sukhe
ghoekonna kora". Kolkata-i bangla noy.
>Indranil - I don't suppose you're searching. Sambit - wish you luck,
Thank you for your wish, kintu what made you think that I'm searching???
>especially in enlightening yourself!!!
Can you please explain this statement. I've understood something but not
sure about the validity of that. If no explanation comes from you, I'll
answer this with the supposition that whatever I've understood is right
and unique.
>And here's a little tip: even
>if you feel like someone has you wrapped around her little finger,
>hide it!
Again thanks for the tip, but the problem is there are people who take pride
in being "wrapped around her little finger". Human psychology!!!!!!
>Sramana
Regards,
Sambit
Sramana Mitra
> >achhe, tader sange prem karbar ichhe... nah!
>
> Eta to personal preference-er byapaar. Ustad Amir Khan (ustad-ta lagatei
> holo, aajkaal loke Amir Khan bolle-i filmstar-ke bojhe!:-( ) Hemanta
> Mukherjee-r Hindi chotul gaan shunte khub bhalobasten. Analogy-ta puro millo
> na, kintu ami jeta bolte chichhi sheta holo je karur Tapas Pal-ke bhalo lagar
> shonge she "as a human being" kamon tar kono sombondho nei.
It's a matter of taste and compatibility, if you will. Jar pachhondor
shimana Tapas Pal, taar sange amar pachhondo milbe na. Tabe tomar milte
pare. Ataeb, I apologize for being judgemental here.
> Eta to pray "Sananda"r article-er kotha hoye galo. Jano "adhunik juger purush"
> challenge khNoje naa. Gone are the days, jokhon Writer's Building-er ekti
> sorkaari clerical job-i chorom aakankhaa chhilo. Aar challenge khNoja-r
> shonge "prem"-er ki somporko? Jodi na "prem" byapar-ta akta professional
> britti kore fela hoy. And that is exactly what my point is. Aajkaal
> "chaakri korchhi", "poDashona korchhi"r moton "prem korchhi"tao akta
> full-time profession hoye gachhe.
The stereotype was all along that the men search for challenge, excitement,
etc. The premise was never under question. It is the women who were always
stereotyped as submissive and so forth. And if you look at the subject line
of this posting, the topic was "prem". Hence, my comments were in relation
to prem as well. I meant challenges in relationships. Chakri, etc. ekhane
ashchhe na.
> If majority is considered as representative, tahole khub dukkhojonok
> hole-o eta sotti je ei meye-rai bangali meye-r representative. Akhono
> kota bangali meye "challenge" khNoje? Jara khNoje tara kono percentage-ei asbe
> na. akhono majority bangali meye-r uchchaakankha "akta bhalo biye kore sukhe
> ghoekonna kora". Kolkata-i bangla noy.
Hote pare. Kintu amader soceity'r je strata'te bicharon, shekhane the
situation has changed. Especially, Rutgers'e boshe if you suggest that
the women are dreaming of ghar-sangsar only, I refuse to accept that.
Please note also, I don't see anything wrong in wanting a healthy
relationship. Whether that is the be-all and end-all of one's life is
questionable.
Perhaps we should take this discussion off-line. I don't want to drag
everyone into this, unless they're interested. The conversation is
moving towards feministic grounds, and I'm sure you've figured out
by now that I feel strongly about this.
> >Indranil - I don't suppose you're searching. Sambit - wish you luck,
>
> Thank you for your wish, kintu what made you think that I'm searching???
I think Indranil mentioned he's married, and you aren't. I didn't assume
you're searching. Just wished you luck in case you are... If you aren't,
congratulations!!
> >especially in enlightening yourself!!!
>
> Can you please explain this statement. I've understood something but not
> sure about the validity of that. If no explanation comes from you, I'll
> answer this with the supposition that whatever I've understood is right
> and unique.
That was a teasing line that I couldn't resist. I'd be interested in hearing
how you interpreted it though!
> Again thanks for the tip, but the problem is there are people who take pride
> in being "wrapped around her little finger". Human psychology!!!!!!
Yes, I know. It stems from insecurity. It takes all kinds to make up this
world, doesn't it?
:-) Sramana
Sambit Basu
>> >You are looking in the wrong crowd. Je torunira Tapas Pal'er dike takiye
>> >achhe, tader sange prem karbar ichhe... nah!
>>
>> Eta to personal preference-er byapaar. Ami jeta bolar chesta korchhi holo je
>>karur Tapas Pal-ke bhalo lagar shonge she "as a human being" kamon tar kono
>>sombondho nei.
>It's a matter of taste and compatibility, if you will. Jar pachhondor
>shimana Tapas Pal, taar sange amar pachhondo milbe na.
^^^^^^^
Oneke kintu "Dhorme-o aachhe, giraffe-eo aachhe". aar ruchi byapar-ta niye
ki ato-ta generalization chole Sramanadebi?
>Tabe tomar milte
>pare.
Exactly, amar milte-i paare. Shudhu Tapas Pal-ke karur bhalo lage kina tai
diye ami karu-r ruchi/pochhondo mapi na. Taar cheye-o boDo kotha he/she
might be an excellent human being.
>
>> Eta to pray "Sananda"r article-er kotha hoye galo. Jano "adhunik juger purush"
>> challenge khNoje naa. Gone are the days, jokhon Writer's Building-er ekti
>> sorkaari clerical job-i chorom aakankhaa chhilo. Aar challenge khNoja-r
>> shonge "prem"-er ki somporko? Jodi na "prem" byapar-ta akta professional
>> britti kore fela hoy. And that is exactly what my point is. Aajkaal
>> "chaakri korchhi", "poDashona korchhi"r moton "prem korchhi"tao akta
>> full-time profession hoye gachhe.
>The stereotype was all along that the men search for challenge, excitement,
>etc. The premise was never under question. It is the women who were always
>stereotyped as submissive and so forth.
Stereotype-er kotha-i jokhon tullen, tokhon jigesh kori isn't it also very
stereotypical to brand any "purush" as someone who wants to hinder the
the progress of a fellow woman?
>And if you look at the subject line
>of this posting, the topic was "prem". Hence, my comments were in relation
>to prem as well. I meant challenges in relationships. Chakri, etc. ekhane
>ashchhe na.
Can you be a bit more specific about "challenges in relationship"? What's
that? Divorce-er sambhabbo-gadday poDte poDte bNeche jaoa?:-)
>
>> If majority is considered as representative, tahole khub dukkhojonok
>> hole-o eta sotti je ei meye-rai bangali meye-r representative. Akhono
>> kota bangali meye "challenge" khNoje? Jara khNoje tara kono percentage-ei asbe
>> na. akhono majority bangali meye-r uchchaakankha "akta bhalo biye kore sukhe
>> ghoekonna kora". Kolkata-i bangla noy.
>
>Hote pare. Kintu amader soceity'r je strata'te bicharon, shekhane the
>situation has changed.
Akebaar-e khNati kotha. kintu if you look at the original posting (which
you have alluded previously), it never talks about any specific Socio-
economic strata. It was meant for one and all "bangali Taruni".
>Especially, Rutgers'e boshe if you suggest that
>the women are dreaming of ghar-sangsar only, I refuse to accept that.
See above. Rutgers-e boshe jodi Tapas Pal-er fan-following niye kotha
bolte paari, (baa for that matter MIT-te boshe), tobe to "ghor-sangsaar"er
kotha bola illogical noy!
>Please note also, I don't see anything wrong in wanting a healthy
>relationship. Whether that is the be-all and end-all of one's life is
>questionable.
Failed to understand the relevance. Sorry for that. Glad to be advised on
that.
>
>Perhaps we should take this discussion off-line. I don't want to drag
>everyone into this, unless they're interested.
I think, since the discussion started "on-line" it should continue here
only. I appreciate your concern about other people's dislike, but I think
there are atleast a few people who might be interested in this.
>The conversation is
>moving towards feministic grounds, and I'm sure you've figured out
>by now that I feel strongly about this.
Be assured that in no way I'm anti-femoinist as long as it is rational and
true to its focus. But my problem is that I've encountered a few
pseudo-feminist (of course by my definition, but I can corroborate my
belief by illustrating some of the experiences, but not "on-line" for
obvious reasons) which made me appreciate the old maxim "all that glitters
is not gold" even more. Unfortunate but true that a feminist-lobby is becoming
stronger everyday which believe that feminism is synonimous to
anti-male-movement.
>> >Indranil - I don't suppose you're searching. Sambit - wish you luck,
>>
>> Thank you for your wish, kintu what made you think that I'm searching???
>
>I think Indranil mentioned he's married, and you aren't. I didn't assume
>you're searching. Just wished you luck in case you are... If you aren't,
>congratulations!!
Naa didi, akhono thik "boshe aachhi potho cheye/fagunero gaan geye" case
hoyni. Hole ki aar publicly ei shob tokke jetum?:-)
>
>> >especially in enlightening yourself!!!
>>
>> Can you please explain this statement. I've understood something but not
>> sure about the validity of that. If no explanation comes from you, I'll
>> answer this with the supposition that whatever I've understood is right
>> and unique.
>
>That was a teasing line that I couldn't resist. I'd be interested in hearing
>how you interpreted it though!
Then forget about it. But you were successful in that, I got teased really.
And if you still want to know my interpretation, tobe "hetha noy, hetha noy
she, onnokotha, onnokonokhane" maane "off-line" bolbo.
>
>> Again thanks for the tip, but the problem is there are people who take pride
>> in being "wrapped around her little finger". Human psychology!!!!!!
>
>Yes, I know. It stems from insecurity. It takes all kinds to make up this
>world, doesn't it?
>
Ke jaane? hobeo baa.
On a different note: amar obostha dekhi khub-i kharap. Onnotro onno ak
netter bhoy dekhiyechhen "Heshe nao dudin boi to noy". Biye hole shob
futani bondho hoye jaabe. Indranilbabu bhoy dekhiyechhen uni naki ei
shob posting copy kore rakhchhen, kono akdin amar biye hole amar bou-ke
joutuk deben (ebong totporoborti moja dekhben) bole. tobu "aka kumbho
rokkha kore...":-)
>:-) Sramana
Regards,
Sambit
Sandeep Kumar Shukla
|> Sramana Mitra (smi...@HING.LCS.MIT.EDU) wrote:
|>
|> : > pore. Era onko shekhe victoriar mathe, biology shekhe nicco parke-er
|> : > jhope. Era shudhu nijer shomoy nashto kore na, arekti shombhabonamoy
|> : > tarunke tene niye jay dhongsher pothe. Eishob nicco park fark to age
|> : > chilo na. Akhon eshob banabar ki dorkar chilo? Amra, barora, eder thik
|> : > pothe pherabar cheshta na kore barong aro prosroy dichchi. dhik !
|>
|> : Indranil,
|>
|> : Bangali chhelera akebare meyeder k(n)ore angule nache, ki balo?
|>
|> : Sramana
|>
|>
|> Shudhu bangali kano, puro prithibir chelerai meyeder kore angule
|> nache.
Shei shab chelerai nache, jara abar meyeder puriye mare, meyera
bhalo kichu korle baadnaam kare, nahole barite boshiye ranna karay
aar meye dekhle jaader mukhe lala jhare!
|>
|> Banglar durbhaggo, tarunra takiye aache tarunider dike. Ar tarunira
|> taakiye ache Tapash Pal-er/ Rabindranath-er dike.
|>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^
|
|> Indranil. |
|> |
|
So this is the good thing that you are talking about? I see!!!!!
Moreover, Tapas Pal aar Rabindranath in the same oblique!!!!!!!!!!
Sandeep Shukla
santanu bhattacharyya
>> >You are looking in the wrong crowd. Je torunira Tapas Pal'er dike takiye
>> >achhe, tader sange prem karbar ichhe... nah!
>>
>> Eta to personal preference-er byapaar. Ustad Amir Khan (ustad-ta lagatei
[[[[[[[[[[[....]]]]]]]]]]]]
>> shonge she "as a human being" kamon tar kono sombondho nei.
>It's a matter of taste and compatibility, if you will. Jar pachhondor
>shimana Tapas Pal, taar sange amar pachhondo milbe na. Tabe tomar milte
>pare. Ataeb, I apologize for being judgemental here.
E byapare apnar sange ekmat na hoye upay nei, amar mate
Tapas Pal == Banglar NaRugopal
Uttam, Saumitra, era nijeder apan khamatay ek samay, shudhu
eksamay keno, ajo bangali paurushatyer pratik. E Goda Pal ke dekhhe
jesab banglar tarunira alhade gaRa goRi jaan, tader proti shradhha
rakha ta baRai mushkil. Abashya eder o temon dosh deya jaye na,
uparakta nayak shreshtha der kaal anek din gato, aajkal to jeshob
chele chhokra teRi bagiye komor dolachhe, tader tulanei Tapas Babui
hoyeto kichuta mature manush, jadio eto chinta kore amar nijer ee abak
lagche! After all, holota ki amader cheleder ?
>> Again thanks for the tip, but the problem is there are people who take pride
>> in being "wrapped around her little finger". Human psychology!!!!!!
>Yes, I know. It stems from insecurity. It takes all kinds to make up this
>world, doesn't it?
>:-) Sramana
Are madam, prem e pore jadi kichuta habu dubu e na khawa gelo,
tahole are prem kore laabh ki ? Kijani bole na..." Jodi hoyi chor kata
tor Sarir bha(n)je" ...:-) Aha jodi ektu na pa(n)chalo, tahole
grihini are prem pagalini'r madhye tafat kothay ? :-)
Santanu
David Searls
: > Madam,
: >
: > Shudhu bangali kano, puro prithibir chelerai meyeder kore angule
: > nache.
: >
: > Banglar durbhaggo, tarunra takiye aache tarunider dike. Ar tarunira
: > taakiye ache Tapash Pal-er/ Rabindranath-er dike.
: >
: > Indranil.
: You are looking in the wrong crowd. Je torunira Tapas Pal'er dike takiye
: achhe, tader sange prem karbar ichhe... nah! kichhu balbar nei.
: Rabindranath aar Tapas Pal ek category'te phele dile'i ba ki bala jai!
madam,
Rabindranath ebong Tapash Paul ke, iye, banglar ak dhoroner meyeli-purush-er
protik hishebe ak dole phelechi. Tultule batachele. Amar baktobbo,
meyeder mone ei manashmurti boshe gele somajer karkhana theke (market
pressure-e) oi chNacher golpbabu-rai beriye ashbe. Dole dole. Bhabte
paren er ki phol hote pare?
Shob chele to ar Jhansi-r rani khNujhche na. Tara pasher barir bNete
meyetakei follow korbe. Prem jinishta kono porikolpito shamorik obhijan
noy (hoa uchit chilo), ota akta viral infection. Pasher bari, ba high
school thekei tar shonkromon. Ichcher jore jodi prem atkate parto
tarunera, tahole to kichu bolari chilo na. Khub-i khushi hotam ami.
: Adhunik juger nari challenge khonje. Kore angule jake nachano
: jai take bhalobasha jai ki? Sambit, Indranil --- je torunider katha
: likhechho tara bangali meye'r representative?
Ami jader kotha bolchi, tara thik puropuri nari hoye othe ni, akhono
Aanari-i ache. (Ei amar shalikar kothai dhora jak na...ahaha ki
chomotkar shorol meyeti shesh porjonto preme pore giye...thak she
kotha...Subrata babu thik-i dhorechen, kishe barbar khNocha dey mone).
Eishob aanari-ra gurujonder shodupodesher birudhdhota-ta-kei akta
adorsho challenge hishebe dhore niyeche!
Angule jake nachano jay take bhalobasha jay na, ei kotha kano tullen
bujhte parlam na. Prem korar shathe bhalobashar ki shomporko?
: Indranil - I don't suppose you're searching. Sambit - wish you luck,
: especially in enlightening yourself!!! And here's a little tip: even
: if you feel like someone has you wrapped around her little finger,
: hide it!
madam,
be korechi mane ki preme na porar kosom kheyechi. Biyer montre bhat
kapor jotanor akta protigya korte hoyechilo, shetuku palon korlei to
holo.
Eta to galo odhikar-er kotha. Tobe, moner kotha jodi jiggesh koren to
boli: Shokto hate toiri ami. Chelebela thekei premer birudhdhe shavabik
immunity chilo. College-e thakte loke jetake bhabto prem sheta ashole
prem chilo na, sheta chilo meyeder monostott-er ekti nibir odhdhoyon.
Indranil.
David Searls
Subrata babu onno shutoi ei proshonge tNar boktobbo rekhechen. Ami akmot
hote parini, tobe alochonati besh manogyo hoyeche.
Pore shomoy niye, aro kichu bolar ichche roilo.
Indranil.
Sramana Mitra
> tahole are prem kore laabh ki ? Kijani bole na..." Jodi hoyi chor kata
> tor Sarir bha(n)je" ...:-) Aha jodi ektu na pa(n)chalo, tahole
> grihini are prem pagalini'r madhye tafat kothay ? :-)
Santanu,
Prem'e pore jato khushi habu dubu khete ami ektu'o baron korchhi na.
Bolchi, je premika'ke sei habu dubu state'ta sab somoi na dekhanoi
bhalo. Play some guessing games --- they're fun. Flirt. Keep switching
modes between habu-dubu khaoa and the non-habu-dubu-khaoa states. That
way, you enjoy your feelings, she enjoys her feelings, you both have
enough of a notion that you care for each other (and guess that "habu-
dubu khaoa" is a strong possibility), you play with each other to keep
the relationship fun. Of course, this is entirely my opinion, my idea
of fun. It's not necessarily easy, and often people like more open
relationships, and prefer the sense of security that knowing the other
person is in a "habu-dubu-khaoa" state for him/her gives.
"Prem pagolini" concept'ta kintu not necessarily an equilibrium state.
Shustho abosthai sei pagol kara prem ghuche gele, dampotyo'r abosthyata
shochoniyo hoi. Tai pagolini jodi budhhimoti hoi, tahole grihini'r sange
tafat rekheo puropuri pagolini na hote pare. Of course, this group has
established the premise that the representative percentage of Bengali
women are unambitious and scatter-brained!
> Amar ma-er juger mohilader dekhechi, nijer oddhikar lore nite. Prem frem
> niye takhon keu matha ghamato na. Ashol kothata janto shobai, prem akta
> nesha, ar neshureder diye kobe kono kajer kaj hoyeche ?
And Indranil,
You have that typical Bengali syndrome of "amader somoi prithibita
akebare thik chhilo. e projonmo'r shab kichhu bhul!" Give me a break!
Your mother's generation - the women you call dignified - the ones
who are "virtuous" karon tara prem karen ni - tader prosroi ebang
protibader abhab bangali soceity'r sexism'ke bnachiye rekhechhe. The
whole institution of arranged marriages is sustained by the sacrifices
of these women. And my friend, this generation does not appreciate
sacrifices of that kind. Shashuri "aha ki bhalo bou, amar shab katha
shone" bolbe jatokhan bou nijer kono nijoshhota prokash korchhe na.
Joint family'te bou thakte raji na hole sara soceity'te rote galo
"o baba, or bou to sangsarta bhenge dilo". Absolute drivel. Please
don't extol "virtue" of this sort. Oddhikar lore niten t(n)ara? -
oddhikar over kitchen? Please, could you elaborate this point? Ki
oddhikar lore nebar katha hochhe thik bodhagamyo holo na!
Sramana
Arya Raychaudhuri
>Sramana Mitra (smi...@HING.LCS.MIT.EDU) wrote:
>: > Era college-e jabar naam kore Kaludar shathe cinemay jay, moydane kete
>: > pore. Era onko shekhe victoriar mathe, biology shekhe nicco parke-er
>: > jhope. Era shudhu nijer shomoy nashto kore na, arekti shombhabonamoy
>: > tarunke tene niye jay dhongsher pothe. Eishob nicco park fark to age
>: > chilo na. Akhon eshob banabar ki dorkar chilo? Amra, barora, eder thik
>: > pothe pherabar cheshta na kore barong aro prosroy dichchi. dhik !
>: Indranil,
>: Bangali chhelera akebare meyeder k(n)ore angule nache, ki balo?
>: Sramana
>Madam,
>Shudhu bangali kano, puro prithibir chelerai meyeder kore angule
>nache.
>Banglar durbhaggo, tarunra takiye aache tarunider dike. Ar tarunira
>taakiye ache Tapash Pal-er/ Rabindranath-er dike.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Indranil.
Tai ki? Amar to mone holo, ora bolchhe
Mahakaler uthchhe h(n)ai
Jomchhe na aar ei larai
Parai notun larka chai
Mon-kamonar notun th(n)ai.
Notun mukher notun hashi
Notun sukher aash
Notun chalan notun balan
Notun bahur pash.
Ora sheidin hobe mukta
Jabe samajer ei abchha nishedh
Chirotare hobe lupta,
Korbe ora lakshya bhed.
Ki balo Indranil?
Arya
Anindya Basu
|> > Amar ma-er juger mohilader dekhechi, nijer oddhikar lore nite. Prem frem
|> > niye takhon keu matha ghamato na. Ashol kothata janto shobai, prem akta
|> > nesha, ar neshureder diye kobe kono kajer kaj hoyeche ?
|>
|> And Indranil,
|>
|> You have that typical Bengali syndrome of "amader somoi prithibita
|> akebare thik chhilo. e projonmo'r shab kichhu bhul!" Give me a break!
|> Your mother's generation - the women you call dignified - the ones
|> who are "virtuous" karon tara prem karen ni - tader prosroi ebang
|> protibader abhab bangali soceity'r sexism'ke bnachiye rekhechhe. The
|> whole institution of arranged marriages is sustained by the sacrifices
|> of these women. And my friend, this generation does not appreciate
|> sacrifices of that kind. Shashuri "aha ki bhalo bou, amar shab katha
|> shone" bolbe jatokhan bou nijer kono nijoshhota prokash korchhe na.
|> Joint family'te bou thakte raji na hole sara soceity'te rote galo
|> "o baba, or bou to sangsarta bhenge dilo". Absolute drivel. Please
|> don't extol "virtue" of this sort. Oddhikar lore niten t(n)ara? -
|> oddhikar over kitchen? Please, could you elaborate this point? Ki
|> oddhikar lore nebar katha hochhe thik bodhagamyo holo na!
|>
|> Sramana
|>
Sramana, you definitely have a point there. i think the idea of odhikar lore
neyoa is a relative one. the way in which this perpetual struggle for
supremacy in a joint bengali family manifested itself has evolved over
the generations. at one point, the entire odhikar lore neyoa was probably
restricted, as you put it, to the kitchen, but i don't think that is true any
more. women in the bengali society definitely have more freedom than they
had twenty years ago, and their way of odhikar lore neoa has also changed
with the times. now, it is no longer a question of lording it over the
andarmahal but having an equal say in how the family should be run. this is
definitely a healthy trend, perhaps indranil does not agree with the change
in the modalities of the conflict. as for prem frem niye matha na ghamano,
i do not think that is true. people did indulge in such emotions, only they
were not so open about them as they are now, primarily due to the social
stigma that seemed to automatically attach itself to any kind of involvement
(romantic or otherwise) between persons of opposite sexes.
enough said, back to work,
cheers,
-anindya
Indranil DasGupta
Sramana Mitra (smi...@HING.LCS.MIT.EDU) wrote:
: And Indranil,
: You have that typical Bengali syndrome of "amader somoi prithibita
: akebare thik chhilo. e projonmo'r shab kichhu bhul!" Give me a break!
: Your mother's generation - the women you call dignified - the ones
: who are "virtuous" karon tara prem karen ni - tader prosroi ebang
: protibader abhab bangali soceity'r sexism'ke bnachiye rekhechhe. The
: whole institution of arranged marriages is sustained by the sacrifices
: of these women. And my friend, this generation does not appreciate
: sacrifices of that kind. Shashuri "aha ki bhalo bou, amar shab katha
: shone" bolbe jatokhan bou nijer kono nijoshhota prokash korchhe na.
: Joint family'te bou thakte raji na hole sara soceity'te rote galo
: "o baba, or bou to sangsarta bhenge dilo". Absolute drivel. Please
: don't extol "virtue" of this sort. Oddhikar lore niten t(n)ara? -
: oddhikar over kitchen? Please, could you elaborate this point? Ki
: oddhikar lore nebar katha hochhe thik bodhagamyo holo na!
: Sramana
Madam,
Apni puropuri misfire kore gachen. Ei projonmer shob kichu-i bhul ami to
konodin bolboi na, borong, chirokaal, natunder dike sneho, asha o garbo
niye takiyechi.
Rabi-thakur tNar tultule kalomei je du ekti khNati kotha likhe gachen
tar ekti holo `sneho nimno-gami'. Chotora jodi bhul kore chot pay,
barora tate deegun aghat bodh kore.
Shob projonmer-i kichu kichu shomoyer badhi thakte pare. Amra, barora
jodi sheta bujhte pereo protikaar-er cheshta na kori, taholei chotoder
proti amader kartabyer shapoth bhango hobe bole amar dharona. Ki kore
jeneshune nijer obhigyotar shikhkha theke tader bonchito korbo bolun?
Tar jonno jodi kathoratar ba akpeshemir obhijog matha pete nite hoy tobe
amar onurodh, ashun amra shanonde, puroshkar mone kore, shei dando bhog
kori.
Chotobela mayer obhigyo hater chul-tanay jontrona peyechi, akhon
tatei notun kore sneho o utkonthar ashwad pai. Akhon bujhi, amar
snehoshila ma, daktar dadur kach theke shekha shabdhanbani okhkhkhore
okhkhkhore palon korten shashon korar belateo. `Bouma', dadu bolechilen,
`chelepuleder gale chor marbe na kakhono, khoti hote pare. Dorkar hole
chul dhore tante paro, kono risk nei, kaj-o hoy bhalo.'
Mayer kotha uthtei aro boli. Ami kintu akbar-o bolini tNara dignified ba
virtuous chilen (jodio ...thak ar ghNatabo na). Dignity ba virtue-r moto
kothin o abstract kotha niye ami bhabi-i na (she shob bhabten Rabi-babu.
Uni to kothay kothay `bhuma' phuma tene anten. Ki je tar mane ke jane!).
Nijei jar tol pai na, tarunder kach theke tar asha rakhbo kon mukhe?
Arranged marriage-er proshonge ami kichui boli ni. Amar shamanno
protibedon chilo Prem namok virus-jonito roger proti apnader drishti
akorshon. Mayer juger mohilara prem korar shomy pan ni. Tnader onekei,
khub doridro, udbastu poribarer modhdhe theke porashona korechen.
Cinemar nayikader onukoron na kore, cheshta korechen purshder shathe
palla diye chaakri jogar kora jay ki na. Kajta onek shomoy-i khub
o-romantic hoto. Ta shotteo mukh buje bochorer por bochor dhore eNra ak
akti modhdhobitto shongharer hal dhorechen. Bhai bonder dNar koriyechen.
Nijer shontanke manush korechen opekhkhakrito shochchol poribeshe.
Ami ei karonei tNader pothikrit boli. Kitchener odhikar niye, shotti-i
kichu bhabi ni takhon.
Amar prosno, taruni obosthay, preme tal khete thaakle ki atota shombhob
hoto? Amar bhoy hoy, hoyto hoto na. Tai-i.....
Apni arrenged marriage-er proshongo tullen. E bishoi amar motamot
porishkar kore nebar akta shujog paoa galo.
Bibaho ekti shasthokor shamajik protishthan. Shob bibahoi arranged.
Erokom ekti guruttopurno bapar jato shuporikolpito bhabe kora jay, tatoi
bhalo.
Abar bibaho ekti manusher ottonto bektigoto jiboner ongsho. Shutorang,
shuporikolpito bibaher niyom kanun bNedhe debar jo nei.
Tobe, amar bektigato mot: Bibaher shonkolpo korar shomoy shabdhan hoben,
prem namok poritajjo onubhuti eshe jano apnar drishti-ke mohachchadito
na kore. Bibaher dike jhNukchen amon jubok jubotider proti onurodh:
Prem-er aboron chNire phele, bhebechinte biye korun.
Juktishangoto kono kaj, ekebare bhul hoy na.
Dorkar hole biyer agei Marriage counsellor-er poramorsho nin. Obhiggo
ghatok-der shathe kotha bolun. Bondhuder shathe cup cup cha kheye,
alochona korun. Apnar monomoto jibonshongir ki ki gun thaka chai tar
akta list tori kore phelun.
Joto bhalo bhabe arrange korben, biyeta tatoi bhalo dNarabe.
madam, apnar shobkoti prosner jothshadhdho uttor dilaam. Shokolei amar
shathe akmot hobe ei asha rakhar odhikar ba dhrishtota nei. Kintu jNara
tarun-tarunider mulloban jibon niye bhabchen tNader shokoler proti
kritoggota janate didha korbo na.
Indranil.
INDY
Hello,
I've been reading this article over the past few days, and I thought I
would share my insight on this topic. Please excuse any mistakes I've made as
I'm a newbie to the internet and would really appreciate not receiving any
flames.
Arya Raychaudhuri (ar...@cs.sfu.ca) wrote:
: >%%Ki hoyeche amader meyeder?
: >
: >%%Jakei dekhi shei prem korche. Orthatt ar kichui korche na. Na porashona,
Dada Didira prem chhara e jibone aar rosher ki aache? Aamra bodhoi
"tarun tarunider" mental state anecdin aage chhere eshechhi bole bhule
giechhi prem korar anondo, uchhash o aabeg .Aar byapar ta ki jaanen premer
udbeger shonge kay boleche porashuna hoi na., probably , if the right guy or
gal is there , porashonata aaro bhalo hobe.Apnader key moth?
: >%%na kheladhulo, na ghorer kaj. Bangali meyeder hoyeche-ta ki?
: >
: >%%Othocho bish tirish bochor aageo erokom chilo na. Prem kora chilo
: >%%brohmo-hotyar moto paap. Jibonanondo dasher amole to co-ed college-e
: >%%`perem' kothata bolle shikkhoker chaakri jeto. Shei oitihashik
: >%%bangladeshe aj erokom hochche kano keu bolte paren?
: >
: Bangali meyera prem pele prem kore phelchhen, aar chepe rakhte parchhen na,
: ba chaichhen na - eta to khub-i chintar kotha.
: chintito roilam
: Arya
Jaya
The advantage of modern means of communication is that they enable you to
worry about things in all the world
- Milton Mayer
Good communication is as stimulating as black coffee, and just as hard to
sleep after.
- Anne Morrow Lindbergh
Indranil DasGupta
: Mahakaler uthchhe h(n)ai
: Jomchhe na aar ei larai
Hna ebar uthe pora jak. Adda theke moja chole gele pavillion-e fire
jaoai sreyo.
Ami ekti shanto shishto potni-pishto bhadrolok,
Dosher modhdhe ektu kori scotch-er jonno chNok-chNok.
Ki balo Apra?
Indranil.
Apratim Sarkar
I would like to propose a face-to-face debate between you two on this topic.
Both of you, I think, are in the Boston area. So am I. So, if the idea seems
appealling (hey, this was a very enjoyable debate) why don't you guys send me
email? I volunteer to act as the Narod and promise to be thoroughly impartial,
if that is acceptable to you two.
I will summarize and post the minutes in SCB.
(I have a strong suspicion je Indranil deliberately Sramanadebi-ke
khochachchhe, bhul bhal boke! Shamna shamni, amar dharana, bishtor maja habe.)
Regards,
Apra.
Indranil DasGupta
Apratim Sarkar (asa...@us.oracle.com) wrote:
: To Sramanadebi and Indranil,
: Regards,
: Apra.
Apra,
Aj bikele mal khabo. Ebong ei shoptahe ja ja ghoteche shob bemalum bhule
jabo. Don't expect a gentleman to remember what he said before the last
drink.
Tai, chelemanushi charo. Paro to akta Chivas Regal kholo diki.
Indranil.
Sramana Mitra
: To Sramanadebi and Indranil,
: I would like to propose a face-to-face debate between you two on this topic.
: Both of you, I think, are in the Boston area. So am I. So, if the idea seems
: appealling (hey, this was a very enjoyable debate) why don't you guys send me
: email? I volunteer to act as the Narod and promise to be thoroughly impartial,
: if that is acceptable to you two.
: I will summarize and post the minutes in SCB.
: (I have a strong suspicion je Indranil deliberately Sramanadebi-ke
: khochachchhe, bhul bhal boke! Shamna shamni, amar dharana, bishtor maja habe.)
: Regards,
: Apra.
Thanks for your offer, but ei majata net'ei thak :-)
Snehasis Ganguly
>
>
>Hello,
> I've been reading this article over the past few days, and I thought I
>would share my insight on this topic. Please excuse any mistakes I've made as
>I'm a newbie to the internet and would really appreciate not receiving any
>flames.
>
>
>
>
>Arya Raychaudhuri (ar...@cs.sfu.ca) wrote:
>: >%%Ki hoyeche amader meyeder?
>: >
>: >%%Jakei dekhi shei prem korche. Orthatt ar kichui korche na. Na porashona,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dada Didira prem chhara e jibone aar rosher ki aache? Aamra bodhoi
>"tarun tarunider" mental state anecdin aage chhere eshechhi bole bhule
>giechhi prem korar anondo, uchhash o aabeg .Aar byapar ta ki jaanen premer
>udbeger shonge kay boleche porashuna hoi na., probably , if the right guy or
>gal is there , porashonata aaro bhalo hobe.Apnader key moth?
>
>
Uchhash abeg sob baje kotha, sobai status ebong "compatabilty" khonje.
(As if compatability is impossible to get after marriage,or one cant
become incompatible after a few days).
ight person pawaa ekta birat assumption. ei sob prem trem korley
porasonar khoti hoi ebong indranil abu ja bolechen, byartho hole ba
bisasghatokta korley depression e bar bar bhugte hoi.
Khethe khawaa manooshder prem trem posai na...
Arya Raychaudhuri
>Hello,
> I've been reading this article over the past few days, and I thought I
>would share my insight on this topic. Please excuse any mistakes I've made as
>I'm a newbie to the internet and would really appreciate not receiving any
>flames.
>Arya Raychaudhuri (ar...@cs.sfu.ca) wrote:
>: >%%Ki hoyeche amader meyeder?
>: >
>: >%%Jakei dekhi shei prem korche. Orthatt ar kichui korche na. Na porashona,
> Dada Didira prem chhara e jibone aar rosher ki aache? Aamra bodhoi
>"tarun tarunider" mental state anecdin aage chhere eshechhi bole bhule
>giechhi prem korar anondo, uchhash o aabeg .Aar byapar ta ki jaanen premer
>udbeger shonge kay boleche porashuna hoi na., probably , if the right guy or
>gal is there , porashonata aaro bhalo hobe.Apnader key moth?
>: >%%na kheladhulo, na ghorer kaj. Bangali meyeder hoyeche-ta ki?
>: >
>: >%%Othocho bish tirish bochor aageo erokom chilo na. Prem kora chilo
>: >%%brohmo-hotyar moto paap. Jibonanondo dasher amole to co-ed college-e
>: >%%`perem' kothata bolle shikkhoker chaakri jeto. Shei oitihashik
>: >%%bangladeshe aj erokom hochche kano keu bolte paren?
>: >
>: Bangali meyera prem pele prem kore phelchhen, aar chepe rakhte parchhen na,
>: ba chaichhen na - eta to khub-i chintar kotha.
>: chintito roilam
>: Arya
>Jaya
Apni jodi amar tippanir opor mantabya kore thaken, tahole bolbo apni bhul
bujhechhen. Je posting-tir opor apni baktabyo rekhechhen tar khali shesh
tin line-i amar lekha. Bakita anya karur.
Jai hok, ami apnar sathe puropuri ekmot. Ami-o premer grammar-e biswas rakhi
na. Ke kakhon kothai katota prem korbe, seta sampurna tar byapar. Shekhane
nishedhagya jari kara hashyakar. Apni amar anya posting-gulo porle hayto
ektu aswasto hoben.
Arya