Abhijan-i ki Satyajit-er shobcheye kharap chhobi? (ChiDiyakhana aar
Ghare Baire theke Agantuk-ke er modhye oboshyo dhorchhi na)
Aar shera chhobi? GuGaBaBa-te ami chhaDa aar ki keu haat tulben? Jana
Aranya sommondhe ki bolen jonogon? Baa Aranyer Dinratri? Kimba
PostMaster?
Seemabaddha-ta ki ektu dhop-er mone hoy na? Bisheshoto shesh drishyo-ta?
Aar Sharmila-r obhinoy(!!!!!!)?
Satyajit-er chhobi-r mohila-ra purushder tulonay ektu beshi mohiyoshi non
ki? Pather PNachali-r Sarbajaya(kintu Oporajito-r noy), Kanchanjongha-r
Monisha, Mohanagar-er Arati, Kapurush-er Karuna, Nayak-er Aditi, Aranyer
Dinratri-r Aparna(played by Sharmila), Seemabaddha-r Tutul, Ganashatru-r
Indrani(Mamtashankar), Shakha Prashakha-r MamataShankar, Agantuuk-er
MamataShankar? Onyo dike, ei chhobigulo-r mukhyo o gouno purush
choritro-gulo kintu dosh-e gun-e manush. Onyanyo chhobi-teo, akbaar-o
kono purush choritro kintu bibek-er bhumikay oboteerno hoy na, jamon
Sharmila Seemabaddha-te hon. Eta ki Satyajit-er gender-bias? Ami
to Mahanagar-er Arati-r shonge Chaowa-Paowa-r shorbo-gunanwito Uttam-er
choritro-r kono tofat khNuje pai na, tao CP-r Uttam-er greed
chhilo, kintu Mahanagar-er Madhabi? Bangladesh-e orokom mohila-ra
akhon-o jonmaan ki? Tahole bohu chirokumar tader koumarjo-broto bhangte
raaji hobe bodhoy!!!!
Regards,
Sambit
Satyajit Ray'key niyey alochona SCB'tey agey chokhey poDeni,
tai bhaloi laglo.
>Abhijan-i ki Satyajit-er shobcheye kharap chhobi? (ChiDiyakhana aar
>Ghare Baire theke Agantuk-ke er modhye oboshyo dhorchhi na)
Amar personally `Ashoni Shongket' bhalo lagey na, kirokom monet
hoi jor kora. Bishesh korey Soumitro ar Babita'key t(n)ader role'ey
ekebarei shachhando monet hoi na.
Apnar Abhijan eto kharap lagey keno?
>Aar shera chhobi? GuGaBaBa-te ami chhaDa aar ki keu haat tulben? Jana
>Aranya sommondhe ki bolen jonogon? Baa Aranyer Dinratri? Kimba
>PostMaster?
Shobkotai bhishon priyo, kintu apnara eto shahajey `shera chhobi'
erokom bolen ki korey.
Apnar puro lekhatey `Charulata' baad keno? Apnar Kannchonjongha
kirokom lagey? Ba `Aparajito'? Kimba `Pratidwandi' ( eta kintu galagali
khaoar bhoi niyey likhlam)?
>Seemabaddha-ta ki ektu dhop-er mone hoy na? Bisheshoto shesh drishyo-ta?
>Aar Sharmila-r obhinoy(!!!!!!)?
Ta hoi.
>Satyajit-er chhobi-r mohila-ra purushder tulonay ektu beshi mohiyoshi non
>ki?
Nishchoi, tar karon Satyajit Ray'er shatota. :-)
>Pather PNachali-r Sarbajaya(kintu Oporajito-r noy), Kanchanjongha-r
>Monisha, Mohanagar-er Arati, Kapurush-er Karuna, Nayak-er Aditi, Aranyer
>Dinratri-r Aparna(played by Sharmila), Seemabaddha-r Tutul, Ganashatru-r
>Indrani(Mamtashankar), Shakha Prashakha-r MamataShankar, Agantuuk-er
>MamataShankar? Onyo dike, ei chhobigulo-r mukhyo o gouno purush
>choritro-gulo kintu dosh-e gun-e manush. Onyanyo chhobi-teo, akbaar-o
>kono purush choritro kintu bibek-er bhumikay oboteerno hoy na, jamon
>Sharmila Seemabaddha-te hon. Eta ki Satyajit-er gender-bias? Ami
>to Mahanagar-er Arati-r shonge Chaowa-Paowa-r shorbo-gunanwito Uttam-er
>choritro-r kono tofat khNuje pai na, tao CP-r Uttam-er greed
>chhilo, kintu Mahanagar-er Madhabi? Bangladesh-e orokom mohila-ra
>akhon-o jonmaan ki? Tahole bohu chirokumar tader koumarjo-broto bhangte
>raaji hobe bodhoy!!!!
Pather PNachali'r Sarbajaya doshe-gune manush noi? Kanchonjongha'tey
Arun Mukherjee je role'ta korechhilen (choritrer nam monet nei), tar ki ki
dosh apnar chokhey porechhey ektu janaben ki - shey majhey-modhyey Monisha'key
Monika boley, ta chhaDa? Apni Aranyer Dinratri'r Sharmila''r katha anlen,
Kaberi Basu'r katha anlen na. Agantuk'er MamataShankar ki adarsho choritro?
Taholey kintu Dipankar Dey'o tai. Nayak'er Aditi ki arthey mohiyoshi? Cinemay
dekhano sharbogunoshampanno purush choritro tar pachhando hoi na ei karoney?
Ami Chaoa-Paoa dekhini, tai apnar tulona'ta niyey kichhhu boltey
parlam na. Kintu, Bangali'r gharer bou daridrer chNapey chakri kortey rastai
namchhen, e drishtanto bodhhoi khub birol noi. Ar, jini prothom BaDir bairey
pa dichhen, tini je adorshogotobhabey poD-khaoa Bangali modhyobitto purusher
chaitey beshi `mohiyoshi' hotey paren , etatey apnar eto apotti kothai?
Doshe-guney meshano Bangali purush koumarjo-brato bhangtey Arati'r
moto mahila chaiben, eta kirokom katha holo?
Regards
Srabani
>Sambitbabu likhechhen
> Amar personally `Ashoni Shongket' bhalo lagey na, kirokom monet
>hoi jor kora. Bishesh korey Soumitro ar Babita'key t(n)ader role'ey
>ekebarei shachhando monet hoi na.
Ashoni Shonket samprotik oteet-e dekha hoyni bole ota
niye bishesh uchcho-bachyo korchhilum na.
> Apnar Abhijan eto kharap lagey keno?
1. Goppo-ta besh dhop-er. Sukhen Das banale thik chhilo.
2. Soumitra-r obhinoy-er cheshta, ebong chorom bipholota.
3. Ohetuk tene baDano.
> Shobkotai bhishon priyo, kintu apnara eto shahajey `shera chhobi'
>erokom bolen ki korey.
Na, ota ashole "mohajon goto: sho ponthaa" aarki. Sayan
dekhlum unconditionally Subarnarekha-ke jitiye dilo, tai
amio bhablum...
> Apnar puro lekhatey `Charulata' baad keno?
Ota reverse bias. Shobai ato "charulata-charulata" kore,
othocho, ADR ba Jono Aranya ba PostMaster baad chole jay.
Charulata-r namollekh korle-i onyogulo abar side-tracked
hoye jaabe.
>Apnar Kannchonjongha
>kirokom lagey?
Bishesh bhalo noy.
>Ba `Aparajito'?
Khub bhalo.
>Kimba `Pratidwandi'
Samprotik oteet-e dekhini.
( eta kintu galagali
>khaoar bhoi niyey likhlam)?
Kano? Kaar kaachhe?
>>Satyajit-er chhobi-r mohila-ra purushder tulonay ektu beshi mohiyoshi non
>>ki?
> Nishchoi, tar karon Satyajit Ray'er shatota. :-)
jhogDa kora amar daktaar-er baron aachhe. maap korben.
> Pather PNachali'r Sarbajaya doshe-gune manush noi?
dosh-e gun-e manush, kintu dosh-ta til porimaan, gun-tai
boddo beshi.
>Kanchonjongha'tey
>Arun Mukherjee je role'ta korechhilen (choritrer nam monet nei), tar ki ki
>dosh apnar chokhey porechhey ektu janaben ki - shey majhey-modhyey Monisha'key
>Monika boley, ta chhaDa?
Sheta-i to mosto dosh! akta orokom juboti meye-r naam guliye
phela oirokom boyesher akta chheler pokkhe braHmon-hotya-r
moton paap!
tachhaDa, dekhun she nije-i shwikaar korechhe je taar jabotiyo
shahosh (Raybabhadur-er chakri-r offer protyakhan kora)
himalay-er sannidhye eshe hoyechhe, kolkata-y taar ei shahosh
hoto na, shekhane she jabotiyo modhyobitto-kuntha niye bNeche
thake. Ekhane-i to she roktomangsho diye goDa hoye jay.
>Apni Aranyer Dinratri'r Sharmila''r katha anlen,
>Kaberi Basu'r katha anlen na.
Ami to bolini, _Satyajit-er jabotiyo nari-chortro mohiyoshi_!
Aar Kaberi Boshu-r chortro-tar jonne (aar obhinoy-er jonne to
bote-i, Sharmila-r duti kaan kete niyechhen) ADR onek bhalo
laage amar, personally.
>Agantuk'er MamataShankar ki adarsho choritro?
adorsho kina janina, kintu mohiyoshi. maane thik realistic
noy.
>Taholey kintu Dipankar Dey'o tai.
tai ki? Dipankar-er kintu prothom theke-i shondeho. she ja
bolte chay, nije bolte paarbe na bole bondhu(Dhritimaan)-ke
diye bolachchhe. She nijer sondeho-take kromagoto justify
korar cheshta korchhe. Amonki akta lok, je mama hote-o paare
abar na-o hote paare, je "onnodhongsho" korchhe - shei
"meanness"-o she dekhachchhe.
>Nayak'er Aditi ki arthey mohiyoshi? Cinemay
>dekhano sharbogunoshampanno purush choritro tar pachhando hoi na ei karoney?
Na, oboshyo sheta-o akta gujjhyo karon bote! Kintu Aditi jabotiyo
modhyobitto koutuhol theke mukto, jeti kintu taar parshoborti
shohojatrini-ti non. Aditi-r kono greed nei. Ekti ottonto
"ontorong sakkhatkaar" she jatra-sheshe chhNiDe phale, jokhon
kina taar potrika-r taka-r tanatani jachchhe.
> Ami Chaoa-Paoa dekhini, tai apnar tulona'ta niyey kichhhu boltey
>parlam na.
sheki? dakhen ni?
>Kintu, Bangali'r gharer bou daridrer chNapey chakri kortey rastai
>namchhen, e drishtanto bodhhoi khub birol noi. Ar, jini prothom BaDir bairey
>pa dichhen, tini je adorshogotobhabey poD-khaoa Bangali modhyobitto purusher
>chaitey beshi `mohiyoshi' hotey paren , etatey apnar eto apotti kothai?
Apotti ke korechhe, aar korle-i ba ke shunchhe!!
Kintu Mohanagar (ota niye-i bolchhen to?)-er Arati-r kintu
karur opor kono obhijog nei; she shoshur-er sheba kore, shashuDi-r
sheba kore, shaami-r proti kortobye taar bhul hoy na...abar
adorsher jonne ak kotha-y moha-mulyobaan chakri-ta chheDe
dite paare. Arati aposh kore na? Apni kotojon amon bangali
modhyobitto aatpoure naari dekhechhen Srabanidebi?
> Doshe-guney meshano Bangali purush koumarjo-brato bhangtey Arati'r
>moto mahila chaiben, eta kirokom katha holo?
Ero'm kotha to hoyni. _kichhu_ _chirokumaar_-er kotha hoyechhilo
to! Apotti thakle janaben, arekta line juDe debo.
Regards,
Sambit
: > Ami Chaoa-Paoa dekhini, tai apnar tulona'ta niyey kichhhu boltey
: >parlam na.
: sheki? dakhen ni?
Korechhen ki? Dekhe phelun. Bar bar ki ar bangali hoye jonmaben?
Sambit-er kachhe Uttam Suchitra-r bhalo collection achhe. Chailei
pathiye debe.
: Apotti ke korechhe, aar korle-i ba ke shunchhe!!
Bhoy pachcho naki, Sambit? Edike telephone-e ja bolle shedin ....
: > Doshe-guney meshano Bangali purush koumarjo-brato bhangtey Arati'r
: >moto mahila chaiben, eta kirokom katha holo?
: Ero'm kotha to hoyni. _kichhu_ _chirokumaar_-er kotha hoyechhilo
: to! Apotti thakle janaben, arekta line juDe debo.
Ta, tomar kirokom meye chai sheta kholsha kore bolte ke atkachhe? Bolei
phalo ebar. Amra to tomay sneho kori. Lojja ki?
Indranil.
Shotyi Sambit? Janio. Amaar Uttam-Suchitra'r boi dekhte darun lage.
-Joydeep
====================================================
Joydeep Bhattacharya
Department of Economics
Cornell University
Ithaca NY 14853-7601
Phone (607) 256 2310
Fax (607) 255 2818
E-mail: jb...@cornell.edu
====================================================
>Srabani Banerjee writes:
>>Apnar Kannchonjongha
>>kirokom lagey?
> Bishesh bhalo noy.
Keno
>>Kimba `Pratidwandi'
> Samprotik oteet-e dekhini.
>( eta kintu galagali
>>khaoar bhoi niyey likhlam)?
> Kano? Kaar kaachhe?
Apni ki amai galagali khaiyey chhaDben?
>>>Satyajit-er chhobi-r mohila-ra purushder tulonay ektu beshi mohiyoshi non
>>>ki?
>> Nishchoi, tar karon Satyajit Ray'er shatota. :-)
> jhogDa kora amar daktaar-er baron aachhe. maap korben.
Thik achhey, ashukh jakhon sharbey, takhon bolben. Tatodiney jodi
apnar mot priborton na hoyey thakey, taholey katha (jhogDa?) hobey.
>> Pather PNachali'r Sarbajaya doshe-gune manush noi?
> dosh-e gun-e manush, kintu dosh-ta til porimaan, gun-tai
> boddo beshi.
Ar kono mahila sherokom hotey paren na? Sarbojoya'r charitrey erokom ki
gun achhey ektu bolben ja t(n)akey ekebarey `mohiyoshi' baniyey dei?
>>Kanchonjongha'tey
>>Arun Mukherjee je role'ta korechhilen (choritrer nam monet nei), tar ki ki
>>dosh apnar chokhey porechhey ektu janaben ki - shey majhey-modhyey Monisha'key
>>Monika boley, ta chhaDa?
> Sheta-i to mosto dosh! akta orokom juboti meye-r naam guliye
> phela oirokom boyesher akta chheler pokkhe braHmon-hotya-r
> moton paap!
Mosto dosh kar chokhey, Sambitbabu? Manisha to etakey khub baDo dosh boley
dekhey boley monet hoi na.
> tachhaDa, dekhun she nije-i shwikaar korechhe je taar jabotiyo
> shahosh (Raybabhadur-er chakri-r offer protyakhan kora)
> himalay-er sannidhye eshe hoyechhe, kolkata-y taar ei shahosh
> hoto na, shekhane she jabotiyo modhyobitto-kuntha niye bNeche
> thake. Ekhane-i to she roktomangsho diye goDa hoye jay.
Ar Monisha ki orthey roktomangsho diyey goDa noi?
> Ami to bolini, _Satyajit-er jabotiyo nari-chortro mohiyoshi_!
Tai? Apni je likhechhilen
>>Satyajit-er chhobi-r mohila-ra purushder tulonay ektu beshi mohiyoshi non
>>ki?
Etakey to amar ekta generalisation boley monet hoyey chhilo.
`Jabotiyo'kathata chhilo na abashyo, taholey bodhhoi amari bojhar bhul.
>Agantuk'er MamataShankar ki adarsho choritro?
> adorsho kina janina, kintu mohiyoshi. maane thik realistic
> noy.
Bhalo naachtey, gaitey ebong ranna kortey parley mahilara mohiyoshi hoyey
jan? Bangladeshey kintu erokom mahila onek achhen, apni t(N)ader na chinley
sheta apnar durbhagyo.
>>Taholey kintu Dipankar Dey'o tai.
> tai ki? Dipankar-er kintu prothom theke-i shondeho. she ja
> bolte chay, nije bolte paarbe na bole bondhu(Dhritimaan)-ke
> diye bolachchhe. She nijer sondeho-take kromagoto justify
> korar cheshta korchhe. Amonki akta lok, je mama hote-o paare
> abar na-o hote paare, je "onnodhongsho" korchhe - shei
> "meanness"-o she dekhachchhe.
Shondeho kintu prothom dikey MamataShankar'ero chhilo. Ar Dhritimann
eshey tar mamakey jera korbey, e byaparey t(N)ar khub joralo apotti
chhilo ki?
>> Doshe-guney meshano Bangali purush koumarjo-brato bhangtey Arati'r
>>moto mahila chaiben, eta kirokom katha holo?
> Ero'm kotha to hoyni. _kichhu_ _chirokumaar_-er kotha hoyechhilo
> to! Apotti thakle janaben, arekta line juDe debo.
Byaparta kholsha holo na. Shei _kichhu_ _chirokumaar_era ki sharboguno-
shampanno mahapurush? Apnar line'ta juDe din borong.
Regards,
Srabani
>: sheki? dakhen ni?
>Korechhen ki? Dekhe phelun. Bar bar ki ar bangali hoye jonmaben?
>Sambit-er kachhe Uttam Suchitra-r bhalo collection achhe. Chailei
>pathiye debe.
Ek kaley Uttam-Suchitra'r cinema dekhtey kom kath-khoD poDai ni.
Konobhabey Chaoa-Paoa'ta baad thekey gyachhey, sheta je erokom gorhito
aporadh ta to jantam na.
Apni jakhon ashshaash dichhen takhon Sambitbabu'r kachhey chailey
nishchoi paoa jeto. Kintu ki janen, `mohiyoshi' mahila'r charitrey Suchitra
Sen'er obhinoi (?????) boDoi peeDadayak laagey aajkaal. Ar Bangali meyey hoyey
jakhon jonmechhi ar mohiyoshi jakhon noi, takhon Uttamkumar'er opor khanikta
durbolota achhey shikar kori, kintu cinemar choritroder dekhley `inferiority
complex' toiri hobar ekta shambhabona thekei jai. Tai e jonmey bodhhoi ar
holo na.
Regards,
Srabani
> Amra to tomay sneho kori.
she aar bolte! Noile, ei public forum-e eibhaabe amar pechhone
kaathi koro!!! :(
Joydeep Bhattacharya writes:
>>Sambit-er kachhe Uttam Suchitra-r bhalo collection achhe. Chailei
>>pathiye debe.
>Shotyi Sambit? Janio. Amaar Uttam-Suchitra'r boi dekhte darun lage.
Joydeepbabu gujob-e akdom kaan diben na. Obishshi jodi
New Jersey-te payer dhulo dan to apnar darun laga kichhu
"boi"-er byabostha-r cheshta dekhte paari.
Regards,
Sambit
Or anyone with a private collection who would be willing to share them?
(I'll pay postage.)
Dhonnobaad.
Prasenjit
>Sambitbabu likhechhen
>>>Apnar Kannchonjongha
>>>kirokom lagey?
>> Bishesh bhalo noy.
>Keno
1. chhobi-ta amar khub aaDoshto laage. akta ghotona theke
arekta ghotonay thik mosrin transition mone hoyna.
2. Subrata SenSharma-Anubha Gupta episode.
3. Bhalo laage Karuna Bondo., "e porobaash-e", Arun Mukhujje.
Apnaar kirokom laage?
>>>Kimba `Pratidwandi'
>> Samprotik oteet-e dekhini.
>>( eta kintu galagali
>>>khaoar bhoi niyey likhlam)?
>> Kano? Kaar kaachhe?
>Apni ki amai galagali khaiyey chhaDben?
Kaar kaachhe? Aar bole-i phelun ja bolar aachhe Pratidwondi
somporke.
>> jhogDa kora amar daktaar-er baron aachhe. maap korben.
>Thik achhey, ashukh jakhon sharbey, takhon bolben. Tatodiney jodi
>apnar mot priborton na hoyey thakey, taholey katha (jhogDa?) hobey.
Oshukh to nei! ota precaution.
>> dosh-e gun-e manush, kintu dosh-ta til porimaan, gun-tai
>> boddo beshi.
>Ar kono mahila sherokom hotey paren na?
Mujtaba Ali theke akta quote kori? Narayan Sanyal-ke lekha
chithi:
/quote/
...ami bolbo, 'ammo dekhechhi, meDo london-er khaandaani
Dorchester hotel-e haat diye khana kheye tebilcloth-e haat
muchchhe|' kintu Dochester hotel-er bornona-te sheta
typical noy, sheat accidental (jamon, prem-er triangle
srishti kore, somosya somadhaan korte na pere lekhok
akjon-ke motor accident-e mere phellen| byas, somoshyar
somadhaan bhel| ami bollum, "eta abar ki?" lekhok
gombhir konthe bollen, "kano, manush motor durghotona-y
more na?" tulona-ta taytay millo na; moddaq - reality is
no criterion for artistic achievement ('roshotteerno
howa')
/endquote/
eta amar-o mot je "unusually stray" reality is no criterion for
artistic achievement.
>Sarbojoya'r charitrey erokom ki
>gun achhey ektu bolben ja t(n)akey ekebarey `mohiyoshi' baniyey dei?
Sorbojoya sorbongshoha. Tobe PP-e Sarbajaya-ke thik mohiyoshi
bola jaabe na bodhoy. Eta withdraw korlum.
>>>Kanchonjongha'tey
>>>Arun Mukherjee je role'ta korechhilen (choritrer nam monet nei), tar ki ki
>>>dosh apnar chokhey porechhey ektu janaben ki - shey majhey-modhyey Monisha'key ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>Monika boley, ta chhaDa?
>> Sheta-i to mosto dosh! akta orokom juboti meye-r naam guliye
>> phela oirokom boyesher akta chheler pokkhe braHmon-hotya-r
>> moton paap!
>Mosto dosh kar chokhey, Sambitbabu?
Amar chokhe. sheta-i to jaante chailen Srabanidebi?
>Manisha to etakey khub baDo dosh boley
>dekhey boley monet hoi na.
Mohiyoshi kina tai! :)
>> tachhaDa, dekhun she nije-i shwikaar korechhe je taar jabotiyo
>> shahosh (Raybabhadur-er chakri-r offer protyakhan kora)
>> himalay-er sannidhye eshe hoyechhe, kolkata-y taar ei shahosh
>> hoto na, shekhane she jabotiyo modhyobitto-kuntha niye bNeche
>> thake. Ekhane-i to she roktomangsho diye goDa hoye jay.
>Ar Monisha ki orthey roktomangsho diyey goDa noi?
Baghbahadur baba-r baachhcai Bishwanathan-er deowa security
katiye deya-ta, kono apato-karon chhaDaa, akta doibik ye
day Monisha-ke!
>> Ami to bolini, _Satyajit-er jabotiyo nari-chortro mohiyoshi_!
>Tai? Apni je likhechhilen
>>>Satyajit-er chhobi-r mohila-ra purushder tulonay ektu beshi mohiyoshi non
>>>ki?
>Etakey to amar ekta generalisation boley monet hoyey chhilo.
>`Jabotiyo'kathata chhilo na abashyo, taholey bodhhoi amari bojhar bhul.
Na, apni eta poDe thik-i bujhechhilen, kintu bodhoy qualifying
paragraph-ta baad diyechhilen, jekhane ami specifically kon
kon naari-ke mohiyoshi mone kori, taar akta listi diyechhilum.
Amar-i lekah-r bhul.
>Bhalo naachtey, gaitey ebong ranna kortey parley mahilara mohiyoshi hoyey
>jan? Bangladeshey kintu erokom mahila onek achhen, apni t(N)ader na chinley
>sheta apnar durbhagyo.
AMi bodhoy shudhu oi guungulo-r jonye Mamatashankar-er
choritro-tike mohiyoshi bolini. bolechhilum ki?
>> tai ki? Dipankar-er kintu prothom theke-i shondeho. she ja
>> bolte chay, nije bolte paarbe na bole bondhu(Dhritimaan)-ke
>> diye bolachchhe. She nijer sondeho-take kromagoto justify
>> korar cheshta korchhe. Amonki akta lok, je mama hote-o paare
>> abar na-o hote paare, je "onnodhongsho" korchhe - shei
>> "meanness"-o she dekhachchhe.
>Shondeho kintu prothom dikey MamataShankar'ero chhilo. Ar Dhritimann
>eshey tar mamakey jera korbey, e byaparey t(N)ar khub joralo apotti
>chhilo ki?
/quote/
Dipankar| kaal prithwish-ke ashte bolechhi.
Mamata| kano? o abar kano?
D| eshob byapaar-e akjon thNotkataa lok-er dorkaar. aar
she lok je tomaar shaami noy, sheta tumi bhalo kore-i
jaano. amar jodi kono chronic byaraam theke thaake,
sheta hochchhe chokkhulojja. Prithwish-er sheta nei.
oke aami byapar-ta bolechhi, and he is most intrigued.
o bolechhe erokom jaliyati case o aage onek handle
korechhe.
M| o ki abar onake jera korbe naki? ja chyatang chyatang
kotha bole tomaar oi barrister bondhu!
D| jera maane ki? she lok-ta bolchhe she tomar mama, taar
jor-e she amader onnodhongsho korchhe; chaarbela
bhalo-mondo khaiye, taar pechhone per day ontoto, ontoto
ponchaash-ta taka khorcha to hobe-i! othocho, we know
next to nothing about the man! kaaje kaaje-i kichhu
essential proshno to taake korte-i hoy. Prithwish
sheta korbe, ebong jothashombhob bhodrobhaabe-i korbe.
M| ami jaanina. je lokta taar bhagni-ke aDai bochhor-er
khuki dekhe gachhe, pNoytrish bochhor pore deshe
phire eshe taake dekhar ichchhe-ta, ontoto amar kaachhe,
ektu-o oshwabhabik mone hochchhe na.
/endquote/
eta-r pore-o ki apnar mone hobe je Anila-r "khuub joralo
apotti" chhilo na?
Aar sondeho je onar prothomdile-o chhilo na, sheta
conversation theke establish korte paari, kintu abar TV-r
samne khata pencil niye boshte kNuDemi laagchhe. Apnar
akhono sondeho thakle ogotya sheta-i korte hobe. Janaben.
>>> Doshe-guney meshano Bangali purush koumarjo-brato bhangtey Arati'r
>>>moto mahila chaiben, eta kirokom katha holo?
>> Ero'm kotha to hoyni. _kichhu_ _chirokumaar_-er kotha hoyechhilo
>> to! Apotti thakle janaben, arekta line juDe debo.
>Byaparta kholsha holo na. Shei _kichhu_ _chirokumaar_era ki sharboguno-
>shampanno mahapurush?
Ta kano hote jaaben? apni bodhoy bhul korchhen, ami tNader
"chaowa"-take justify korini, just akta matter of conjecture
korechhilum.
>Apnar line'ta juDe din borong.
Eu nin tobe:
"chaowa-paowa-r uttam-er moto choritro-ra jonmaale
bohu chirokumari bodhoy taader koumarjo-broto bhangte
raaji hoben"!
Khushi?
Regards,
Sambit
Gaangulo oshadharon. Kichhu `classic' prem-er situation chhilo ja
ajkalkar cinemay paoa jay na. Shamanyo `complex' toiri hoye jabe bole
dekhben na eta ekta kotha holo? Complex eriye eriye ki bNeche thaka
shombhob? Ba oibhabe bNachata ki bNacha? (scb-te jhorer purbabhash
pachchhi).
Erpor apni bolben pet kharap hote pare ei bhoye phuchka khai na. Daktar
achhe ki jonye? (`Complex'-er jonyeo baro baro daktar chamber khule boshe
achhe.)
Ami abar bolchhi, Sambit-er kachhe ak copy achhe, taratari aniye
nin. Odike Joydeep-babu-o hat tulechhen.....
Indranil.
: Eta withdraw korlum.
Pichhopa hole? Chhee, chhee Sambit. Soumitra-babu-ke dekhe
shekho. Mundu kata jabe tobu ak inchi jomi chharbe na! Amar onurodh -
`withdrawal' ta withdraw koro.
: Amar-i lekah-r bhul.
Sambit tomar ki hoyechhe baloto? Klibotwwo prapto hole naki? Gandeeb tolo!!!
: eta-r pore-o ki apnar mone hobe je Anila-r "khuub joralo
: apotti" chhilo na?
: Aar sondeho je onar prothomdile-o chhilo na, sheta
: conversation theke establish korte paari, kintu abar TV-r
: samne khata pencil niye boshte kNuDemi laagchhe. Apnar
: akhono sondeho thakle ogotya sheta-i korte hobe. Janaben.
Chhotoder kothar modhye kotha bolbo na bolbo na koreo bole
phelchhi. Amar mone hoy Anila-r mamar jaygay jodi Dipankar-er (ki jano
choritro-tar nam?) mashi ashten tahole dujoner-i ulto reaction
hoto. Ekhane duto effect akshathe kaj korchhe:
1) Purushra (meyera) purushder (meyeder) beshi shondeher chokhe dekhe.
2) Shoshur kuler lokeder shokolei shondeher chokhe dekhe.
Dwitio point-ta obibahito nettok/nettika thik dhorte parben na.
Indranil.
Kirokom gaan, Indranilbabu? Apni ekhaney shudhu CP'r katha bolley aboshyo
kichhu boltey parbo na. Kintu gaangulo'r jonyo ki cinema dekhata joruri?
Emnioto shona jai. UttamKumar jakhon lipstick ar kajol mekhey `Ei path
jodi na shesh hoi'tey lip den, takhon dekhtey khub bhalo lagey?
Ar `classic' prem-er situation kirokom? Apni konodin Mills&Boon
poDechhen? Ami ekkaley prochur poDtam. Darun prem'er situation thakto.
Tar tulonai to Uttam-Suchitra ekebarey jolo.
> Shamanyo `complex' toiri hoye jabe bole
>dekhben na eta ekta kotha holo? Complex eriye eriye ki bNeche thaka
>shombhob? Ba oibhabe bNachata ki bNacha? (scb-te jhorer purbabhash
>pachchhi).
`Inferiority complex' shamanyo `complex'? Bolen ki??
>Erpor apni bolben pet kharap hote pare ei bhoye phuchka khai na. Daktar
>achhe ki jonye? (`Complex'-er jonyeo baro baro daktar chamber khule boshe
>achhe.)
Phuchka khetey khub bhalobashi, tar jonyo daktar'er kachhey jetey raji achhi.
Kintu tai boley Uttamkumar'key dekhey paglagarodey jetey holey lokey bolbey
ki?
Srabani
>>>>Apnar Kannchonjongha
>>>>kirokom lagey?
>>> Bishesh bhalo noy.
>>Keno
> 1. chhobi-ta amar khub aaDoshto laage. akta ghotona theke
> arekta ghotonay thik mosrin transition mone hoyna.>
> 2. Subrata SenSharma-Anubha Gupta episode.
> 3. Bhalo laage Karuna Bondo., "e porobaash-e", Arun Mukhujje.
> Apnaar kirokom laage?
Khub bhalo lagey. Apnar aaDoshtho keno lagey janina, amar kintu puro
cinemata'r rhythm bhishon bhalo lagey. Arun Mukherjee ashadharon
(abhineta'r katha bolchhi, charitro'ta noi), Karuna B'o. Apnar cinema'tatey
Chhabi Biswas'key bhalo lagey na?
Ta chhaDa, bhishon bhalo abohosangeet, gochhano chitronatyo
(khub kom baDti katha) ityadi, ityadi..
>>> jhogDa kora amar daktaar-er baron aachhe. maap korben.
>>Thik achhey, ashukh jakhon sharbey, takhon bolben. Tatodiney jodi
>>apnar mot priborton na hoyey thakey, taholey katha (jhogDa?) hobey.
> Oshukh to nei! ota precaution.
Thik achhey, precaution'er proyojon dur holey janaben.
>>> dosh-e gun-e manush, kintu dosh-ta til porimaan, gun-tai
>>> boddo beshi.
>>Ar kono mahila sherokom hotey paren na?
> Mujtaba Ali theke akta quote kori? Narayan Sanyal-ke lekha
> chithi:
> /quote/
.......
> /endquote/
> eta amar-o mot je "unusually stray" reality is no criterion for
> artistic achievement.
Eta thik, meney nilam.
>>Ar Monisha ki orthey roktomangsho diyey goDa noi?
> Baghbahadur baba-r baachhcai Bishwanathan-er deowa security
> katiye deya-ta, kono apato-karon chhaDaa, akta doibik ye
> day Monisha-ke!
Amar to monet hoi Raibahadur baba'r meye bolei tar pokhkhey shambhab
tar paniprarthir deoa security katiyey deoa. Shey to janei na insecurity ki
bostu, security tar kachhey eto guruttopurno keno hobey? TachhaDa,
Vishwanathan'key na boltey kintu tar onek shomoi lagey (babar influence?
Arun M'er moto tar'o ki Himalay'er shannidhyae eshey shahosh hoi?)
Ar, karon ki shobshomoi khub apato hoi?
>>Bhalo naachtey, gaitey ebong ranna kortey parley mahilara mohiyoshi hoyey
>>jan? Bangladeshey kintu erokom mahila onek achhen, apni t(N)ader na chinley
>>sheta apnar durbhagyo.
> AMi bodhoy shudhu oi guungulo-r jonye Mamatashankar-er
> choritro-tike mohiyoshi bolini. bolechhilum ki?
Ta bolenni, kintu ki guney tini mohiyoshi, ta to bollen na.
>> tai ki? Dipankar-er kintu prothom theke-i shondeho. she ja
>> bolte chay, nije bolte paarbe na bole bondhu(Dhritimaan)-ke
>> diye bolachchhe. She nijer sondeho-take kromagoto justify
>> korar cheshta korchhe. Amonki akta lok, je mama hote-o paare
>> abar na-o hote paare, je "onnodhongsho" korchhe - shei
>> "meanness"-o she dekhachchhe.
>>Shondeho kintu prothom dikey MamataShankar'ero chhilo. Ar Dhritimann
>>eshey tar mamakey jera korbey, e byaparey t(N)ar khub joralo apotti
>>chhilo ki?
> /quote/
.......
> /endquote/
> eta-r pore-o ki apnar mone hobe je Anila-r "khuub joralo
> apotti" chhilo na?
Apotti chhilo nischoi, sheta joralo kina shey byaparey amader moter
parthokyo thaktei parey. Mohiyoshi ramani'r joralo apotti je Bangali
shaami uDiyey ditey paarey t(N)akey apni ashadharon bolben na? :-)
> Aar sondeho je onar prothomdile-o chhilo na, sheta
> conversation theke establish korte paari, kintu abar TV-r
> samne khata pencil niye boshte kNuDemi laagchhe. Apnar
> akhono sondeho thakle ogotya sheta-i korte hobe. Janaben.
Thak moshai, meney nilam je onar prothom thekey shondeho chhilo na.
Ta holeo, amar khudro obhigyottai, bangali mohilader shondehobatik kintu
purusher chaitey kom hoi, ektu `aha,bachha'gochher byapar t(N)ader thakei.
Shutorang, shey arthey Anila byatikrom noi.
>>Byaparta kholsha holo na. Shei _kichhu_ _chirokumaar_era ki sharboguno-
>>shampanno mahapurush?
> Ta kano hote jaaben? apni bodhoy bhul korchhen, ami tNader
> "chaowa"-take justify korini, just akta matter of conjecture
> korechhilum.
Thik achhey, bujhlam.
>>Apnar line'ta juDe din borong.
> Eu nin tobe:
> "chaowa-paowa-r uttam-er moto choritro-ra jonmaale
> bohu chirokumari bodhoy taader koumarjo-broto bhangte
> raaji hoben"!
Erokom uchhakankhi Bangali meyey hoi? Apni chenen kaukey? Thakley t(N)ara
amar nomoshyo!!!
> Khushi?
Nishchoi, erokom meyey achhey bhabtey khub bhalo lagchhey.
Ebarey ekta nibedon achhey. Prothomdikey amar namer pechhoney `debi'ta
shuntey kharap lagto na, agey keu konodin boleni kina. Aajkaal khub ashwosti
hoi, apnara jodi daya korey ota bad den, taholey badhito hoi.
Bineeto
Srabani
> Pichhopa hole? Chhee, chhee Sambit. Soumitra-babu-ke dekhe
> shekho. Mundu kata jabe tobu ak inchi jomi chharbe na!
Soumitrababu firebrand ye, onar oshob maniye
jay - aar ami holum khNati chhaposha bongo-sontaan.
Sunirmal Basu-r tiroshkaar chirokaal mone rakhi,
"Bangali hoyechho, palate shekhoni?"
> Amar onurodh -
> `withdrawal' ta withdraw koro.
Amar onurodh tomar `withdrawal' ta withdraw korar
onurodh-ta withdraw koro.
> Sambit tomar ki hoyechhe baloto? Klibotwwo prapto hole naki? Gandeeb tolo!!!
Gandeeb chaDa-i jodi... Aar hNya he, amar poshaddeshe
kathi kora chhaDa kaaj nei? "Planchet"-ta shesh koro na!
Kimba tomar Rogan Josh-er recipe-ta post koro!
> 1) Purushra (meyera) purushder (meyeder) beshi shondeher chokhe dekhe.
Ei ami jamon tomay akhon dekhchhi!
> 2) Shoshur kuler lokeder shokolei shondeher chokhe dekhe.
Eta akta gem. Taijonne-i bor-gulo bou-guloke, aar bou-gulo bor-gulo gobhir
sondehe-r chokhe dakhe.
> Dwitio point-ta obibahito nettok/nettika thik dhorte parben na.
Dhora durokom, dekhe dhora aar theke dhora. Laddu na
khaowa-ra prothom-ta kore e byapaar-e.
> Indranil.
Shonibaar office kora ki b**l-er,
Sambit
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Srabani> Agantuk'er MamataShankar ki adarsho choritro?
Sambit> adorsho kina janina, kintu mohiyoshi. maane thik realistic
Sambit> noy.
Srabani> Bhalo naachtey, gaitey ebong ranna kortey parley mahilara mohiyoshi
Srabani> hoyey jan? Bangladeshey kintu erokom mahila onek achhen, apni
Srabani> t(N)ader na chinley sheta apnar durbhagyo.
I don't think this is Sambit's point. Let me take a cut at what
Sambit is trying to say (as I understand).
In general Satyajit Ray-er chhobite purusher tulanai mohila-der
character onek bolishtho -- something you can use as an example for
others. These are women whom we may call "mohioshi!"
Whether this is true in general or not is a different question.
Sambit, Ghor-e Baire-te kintu Sandip-er character Swatilekha-r thek-e
onek beshi bolistho chhilo, right?
-Shubu
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Shubu Mukherjee Univeristy of Wisconsin-Madison, Computer Sciences
>I don't think this is Sambit's point. Let me take a cut at what
>Sambit is trying to say (as I understand).
>In general Satyajit Ray-er chhobite purusher tulanai mohila-der
>character onek bolishtho -- something you can use as an example for
>others. These are women whom we may call "mohioshi!"
Ami thik janina apni "bolishtho" bole ki bolte chaaichhen.
Ami mohiyoshi bolte bolchhi je enara, ingriji-te jaake
bole, "righteous" - tai. eNder noitik podoskholon hoy
na; amader (ontoto amar) madhyobitto values jeta-ke 'thik'
bole, enara obostha-durbipaak-eo taar theke bicholito
hon na.
>Sambit, Ghor-e Baire-te kintu Sandip-er character Swatilekha-r thek-e
>onek beshi bolistho chhilo, right?
Amar definition-e enara bolishtho, kintu enara keu-i mohaan
ba mohiyoshi non. Sandeep to besh hindi-chhobi-shuulobh
villainish.
>Shubu
Regards,
Sambit
>Sambitbabu likhechhen,
>>>>>Apnar Kannchonjongha
>>>>>kirokom lagey?
>> Apnaar kirokom laage?
>Apnar cinema'tatey
>Chhabi Biswas'key bhalo lagey na?
Chhobi Bishwash-er obhinoy bhalo laage, choritro-ta noy.
> Ta chhaDa, bhishon bhalo abohosangeet, gochhano chitronatyo
>(khub kom baDti katha) ityadi, ityadi..
baaDti kotha na thaka-ta to SR-er forte. Ota na thakle
to shob-i "Agantuk" hoye jaabe.
>> Baghbahadur baba-r baachhcai Bishwanathan-er deowa security
>> katiye deya-ta, kono apato-karon chhaDaa, akta doibik ye
>> day Monisha-ke!
>Amar to monet hoi Raibahadur baba'r meye bolei tar pokhkhey shambhab
>tar paniprarthir deoa security katiyey deoa. Shey to janei na insecurity ki
>bostu, security tar kachhey eto guruttopurno keno hobey?
Eta bhalo bolechhen. Kintu byapar-ta ektu onyodik diye dekhun.
Monisha manush hoyechhe je abohaowa-y sheti nokli-biliti
abohaowa. Shekhane manners, etiquette-er chhoDachhodi, ebong
Monisha-r-o ta'te conditioned hoye shegulo-ke appreciate kora-ta
swabhabik. emotobosthay Bishwanathan-er moton akjon suave
character-er 'charm' protakhyan kora ki khub shwabhabik,
security-ta jodi chheDe-o diy?
> Ar, karon ki shobshomoi khub apato hoi?
Ta hoy na, tobe chhobi-te sheta sommondhe ingit na dile chhobi-ti
durbodhyo hoye poDe.
>> eta-r pore-o ki apnar mone hobe je Anila-r "khuub joralo
>> apotti" chhilo na?
>Apotti chhilo nischoi, sheta joralo kina shey byaparey amader moter
>parthokyo thaktei parey.
Orthaat akhono apnar mone hoy apotti khub "joralo" chhilo
na?
>Mohiyoshi ramani'r joralo apotti je Bangali
>shaami uDiyey ditey paarey t(N)akey apni ashadharon bolben na? :-)
Na, ota ashole male chauvinism :)
>Ta holeo, amar khudro obhigyottai, bangali mohilader shondehobatik kintu
>purusher chaitey kom hoi, ektu `aha,bachha'gochher byapar t(N)ader thakei.
>Shutorang, shey arthey Anila byatikrom noi.
apni jaake bolchhen "bangali mohilader shondehobatik kintu
purusher chaitey kom hoi" ku-lok-e sheta-kei onyobhabe
phrase kore "bangali mohila-der gullibility purushder
cheye beshi" :)
>> "chaowa-paowa-r uttam-er moto choritro-ra jonmaale
>> bohu chirokumari bodhoy taader koumarjo-broto bhangte
>> raaji hoben"!
>Erokom uchhakankhi Bangali meyey hoi? Apni chenen kaukey? Thakley t(N)ara
>amar nomoshyo!!!
Na chinina. Aar ete uchchakankha-r kono byapar nei.
>> Khushi?
>Nishchoi, erokom meyey achhey bhabtey khub bhalo lagchhey.
Ke bollo aachhe?
>Ebarey ekta nibedon achhey. Prothomdikey amar namer pechhoney `debi'ta
>shuntey kharap lagto na, agey keu konodin boleni kina. Aajkaal khub ashwosti
>hoi, apnara jodi daya korey ota bad den, taholey badhito hoi.
You too?
>Bineeto
>Srabani
Onyotro:
>> Hoyto thik-i bolchhen, kintu ami karon onusondhan
>> korchhilum na. dNaDan moshai, mohiyoshi bolte-i churdik
>> theke phNosh-phNash ja chhobol-er awaj ashchhe! Ota aage
>> established hok, taarpor to kaaron.
>`phNosh-phNash ja chhobol'!!!!! Sambitbabu, apni ki phuler ghayey
>murchha jan naki?
Khub high-velocity-te marle jete paari. 'chhobol' shobdo-ta
bodle noy 'nyaj-er jhaptani' kore nin. :)
>Concerned,
>Srabani
Regards,
Sambit
: >>Apnar Kannchonjongha
: >>kirokom lagey?
: > Bishesh bhalo noy.
: Keno
Eiy chobitaa amaar personal favourite. ( To Shubu:-
tumi eiy chobir Heroinekey personally cheno? I think
she was great in this movie.)
: >>Kanchonjongha'tey
: >>Arun Mukherjee je role'ta korechhilen (choritrer nam monet nei), tar ki ki
: >>dosh apnar chokhey porechhey ektu janaben ki - shey majhey-modhyey Monisha'key
: >>Monika boley, ta chhaDa?
: > Sheta-i to mosto dosh! akta orokom juboti meye-r naam guliye
: > phela oirokom boyesher akta chheler pokkhe braHmon-hotya-r
: > moton paap!
: Mosto dosh kar chokhey, Sambitbabu? Manisha to etakey khub baDo dosh boley
: dekhey boley monet hoi na.
Eta to spoonerism chara kichu noi..
: > tachhaDa, dekhun she nije-i shwikaar korechhe je taar jabotiyo
: > shahosh (Raybabhadur-er chakri-r offer protyakhan kora)
: > himalay-er sannidhye eshe hoyechhe, kolkata-y taar ei shahosh
: > hoto na, shekhane she jabotiyo modhyobitto-kuntha niye bNeche
: > thake. Ekhane-i to she roktomangsho diye goDa hoye jay.
Tar maney? raktomangsho niye goraa choritro pochondo noi, Sambit?
Tumi ki sonaar murti khunjcho? Tumi abaar eto idealist kobe thekey
holey?
Amakey jetaa fascinate korechey setaa holo Himalay-er saanidhyo..
Eiyrokom anubhutir kotha onekkey boltey sunechi, nijeo Gangtok-er
Kanchanjhangha dekhey ascharjyo obhigyata hoechilo. Eiy byaparey
tnar golpotey IDG'r kichu bolaar chilo, IDG kobey bolbey ke jaaney?
: Ar Monisha ki orthey roktomangsho diyey goDa noi?
Monishar dilemna taaki ullekhjyagyo bastu chilo eiy chobitey?
Amar to mone hoechilo je monishaar idealism(perhaps Prakitir
Saanidhye) khub fascinating, kintu oiytya sei idealism-eeiy.
Besh kalponik, karon real-life-tey oirokom dristanto choke
poreni.
Aar pahari sur ta khubbhalo legechilo.
Snehasis
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: Indranil Dasgupta wrote:
: >Gaangulo oshadharon. Kichhu `classic' prem-er situation chhilo ja
: >ajkalkar cinemay paoa jay na.
: Kirokom gaan, Indranilbabu? Apni ekhaney shudhu CP'r katha bolley aboshyo
: kichhu boltey parbo na. Kintu gaangulo'r jonyo ki cinema dekhata joruri?
: Emnioto shona jai. UttamKumar jakhon lipstick ar kajol mekhey `Ei path
: jodi na shesh hoi'tey lip den, takhon dekhtey khub bhalo lagey?
Ami hoyto chokhe otota bhalo dekhina, tobe orokom motorcycle-e dhaboman
prem dekhe amader barite amra purushanukrome mugdho hoyechhi. Chaoa
Paoa-r gaan-er situation-ta aro shoresh. Cinema-ta na dekhle ota bojha
jabe na.
Ami beshi proshongsha korte chaina. Expectation khub high hole, let down
hobei. Tarantino-r cinema dekhte giye amar tai hoyechhilo (ebong pray
bondhubichched hoye jete boshechhilo).
Tobe aktaa duto Suchitra-Uttam bNachiye rakha bhalo. Bank-e taka rakhar
moto. Proyojone, bishesh kono dine, bhangalei holo.
: Ar `classic' prem-er situation kirokom? Apni konodin Mills&Boon
: poDechhen? Ami ekkaley prochur poDtam. Darun prem'er situation thakto.
: Tar tulonai to Uttam-Suchitra ekebarey jolo.
:-) Ami-o (ma-kali sref research korbo bole) du akta pore
dekhechhi. Lokkho kore dekhechhen ki je purush choritro-ra kono kajkormo
kore na? Tader shobar-i aktaa jomidari thake.
`Jolo' bolte apni ki bojhachhcen ta na bujhe kono montobyo korchhi
na. Tobe Chaoa Paoa-y oNra motamuti bhadralok-er moto prem
korechhen. Ogniporikhkha-teo barabari korechhen bole mone porchhe
na. Share chuattor mone achhe? Prem to noy, prem-prem khela. Shodanonder
mela-teo tai. Gograshe prem noy. Ektukhani prem. Bangla
chitro-porichalok-ra akshomoy eta thikthak dekhate parten.
Sambit notun script likhchhe. Dekha jak o pare kina.
: > Shamanyo `complex' toiri hoye jabe bole
: >dekhben na eta ekta kotha holo? Complex eriye eriye ki bNeche thaka
: >shombhob? Ba oibhabe bNachata ki bNacha? (scb-te jhorer purbabhash
: >pachchhi).
: `Inferiority complex' shamanyo `complex'? Bolen ki??
Tamon shanghatik-i ba ki? Amar to dine dubar kore hoy. Tar cheye
ulcer onek beshi koshter.
: >Erpor apni bolben pet kharap hote pare ei bhoye phuchka khai na. Daktar
: >achhe ki jonye? (`Complex'-er jonyeo baro baro daktar chamber khule boshe
: >achhe.)
: Phuchka khetey khub bhalobashi, tar jonyo daktar'er kachhey jetey raji achhi.
: Kintu tai boley Uttamkumar'key dekhey paglagarodey jetey holey lokey bolbey
: ki?
Ah paglagarod bolchhen kano? Bolun sanitorium. Baro baro lokera hawa
bodlate jay. Koto shombhabonamoy jayga. Deep jele jai dekhechhen?
Indranil.
[...]
>: >>shey majhey-modhyey Monisha'key
>: >>Monika boley, ta chhaDa?
> Eta to spoonerism chara kichu noi..
**quote**
Concise Oxford Dictionary, 8th Ed., Copyright 1991 Oxford Univ. Press
/spoonerism/ <<"spu:n@%rIz(@)m>> n. a transposition, usu.
accidental, of the initial letters etc. of two or more
words, e.g. you have hissed the mystery lectures.
Revd W. A. Spooner, English scholar d. 1930, reputed to
make such errors in speaking
**endquote**
Sutorang, Snehasis eta spoonerism noy. :)
>: > tachhaDa, dekhun she nije-i shwikaar korechhe je taar jabotiyo
>: > shahosh (Raybabhadur-er chakri-r offer protyakhan kora)
>: > himalay-er sannidhye eshe hoyechhe, kolkata-y taar ei shahosh
>: > hoto na, shekhane she jabotiyo modhyobitto-kuntha niye bNeche
>: > thake. Ekhane-i to she roktomangsho diye goDa hoye jay.
> Tar maney? raktomangsho niye goraa choritro pochondo noi, Sambit?
tar maane ei dNaDalo ki kore Snehasis? Ami to bolchhilum
Monisha thik 'roktomangsher' noy bole choritro-ta amar
pochhondo noy.
> Tumi ki sonaar murti khunjcho?
Pele mondo hoy na. Madhukori kore aar je chole na! :)
> Tumi abaar eto idealist kobe thekey
> holey?
chhilum-i to! :)
: Ar Monisha ki orthey roktomangsho diyey goDa noi?
> Snehasis
Regards,
Sambit
> Gaangulo oshadharon. Kichhu `classic' prem-er situation chhilo ja
> ajkalkar cinemay paoa jay na.
Ato proshongsha jakhon korchen takhon sahosh kore jiggesh korei felchi
je ki ki gaan achhe ektu mone koriye deben?
Aar 'classic' prem-ta ki jinish Indranil-babu?
> (`Complex'-er jonyeo baro baro daktar chamber khule boshe
> achhe.)
>
Srabani bodhhoe oi poisa-ta bNachate chayichhe Indranil-babu.
> Indranil.
Chaitali
>> In general Satyajit Ray-er chhobite purusher tulanai mohila-der
>> character onek bolishtho -- something you can use as an example for
>> others. These are women whom we may call "mohioshi!"
SB> Ami thik janina apni "bolishtho" bole ki bolte chaaichhen.
Almost same as your definition of "mohiyoshi" below, except that it
additionally implies a certain force/strength of character, which
springs from their moral stand.
SB> Ami mohiyoshi bolte bolchhi je enara, ingriji-te jaake
SB> bole, "righteous" - tai. eNder noitik podoskholon hoy
SB> na; amader (ontoto amar) madhyobitto values jeta-ke 'thik'
SB> bole, enara obostha-durbipaak-eo taar theke bicholito
SB> hon na.
>: Kirokom gaan, Indranilbabu? Apni ekhaney shudhu CP'r katha bolley aboshyo
>: kichhu boltey parbo na. Kintu gaangulo'r jonyo ki cinema dekhata joruri?
>: Emnioto shona jai. UttamKumar jakhon lipstick ar kajol mekhey `Ei path
>: jodi na shesh hoi'tey lip den, takhon dekhtey khub bhalo lagey?
>Ami hoyto chokhe otota bhalo dekhina, tobe orokom motorcycle-e dhaboman
>prem dekhe amader barite amra purushanukrome mugdho hoyechhi.
Shunechhi mugdhota naki onekshomoi manush'key ondho korey, eta ki sherokom
byapar?
>: Ar `classic' prem-er situation kirokom? Apni konodin Mills&Boon
>: poDechhen? Ami ekkaley prochur poDtam. Darun prem'er situation thakto.
>: Tar tulonai to Uttam-Suchitra ekebarey jolo.
>:-) Ami-o (ma-kali sref research korbo bole) du akta pore
>dekhechhi.
Apnar buker pata achhey Indranilbabu. Aaj porjonto kono chhelekey ei
katha'ta shikar kortey shunini.:-)
Apnar research'er phol'ta jantey khub ichhey korchhey, kintu lokey bodhhoi
`charter' niyey proshno tulbey.
>Lokkho kore dekhechhen ki je purush choritro-ra kono kajkormo
>kore na? Tader shobar-i aktaa jomidari thake.
BaDti qualification hishebey tNara shobai UttamKumar'er moto shob parikhkhai
prothom hoi.
>`Jolo' bolte apni ki bojhachhcen ta na bujhe kono montobyo korchhi
>na.
Ei niyey ami ar katha baDachhi na, retreat korlam.
>: > Shamanyo `complex' toiri hoye jabe bole
>: >dekhben na eta ekta kotha holo? Complex eriye eriye ki bNeche thaka
>: >shombhob? Ba oibhabe bNachata ki bNacha? (scb-te jhorer purbabhash
>: >pachchhi).
>: `Inferiority complex' shamanyo `complex'? Bolen ki??
>Tamon shanghatik-i ba ki? Amar to dine dubar kore hoy.
Keno hoi?
>: >Erpor apni bolben pet kharap hote pare ei bhoye phuchka khai na. Daktar
>: >achhe ki jonye? (`Complex'-er jonyeo baro baro daktar chamber khule boshe
>: >achhe.)
>: Phuchka khetey khub bhalobashi, tar jonyo daktar'er kachhey jetey raji achhi.
>: Kintu tai boley Uttamkumar'key dekhey paglagarodey jetey holey lokey bolbey
>: ki?
>Ah paglagarod bolchhen kano? Bolun sanitorium. Baro baro lokera hawa
>bodlate jay. Koto shombhabonamoy jayga. Deep jele jai dekhechhen?
Dekhechhi. Nurse'era to shekhaney shobai mohila. Shutorang shombhabona
to shekhaney apnader jonyo.
Srabani
>>> Baghbahadur baba-r baachhcai Bishwanathan-er deowa security
>>> katiye deya-ta, kono apato-karon chhaDaa, akta doibik ye
>>> day Monisha-ke!
>>Amar to monet hoi Raibahadur baba'r meye bolei tar pokhkhey shambhab
>>tar paniprarthir deoa security katiyey deoa. Shey to janei na insecurity ki
>>bostu, security tar kachhey eto guruttopurno keno hobey?
> Eta bhalo bolechhen. Kintu byapar-ta ektu onyodik diye dekhun.
> Monisha manush hoyechhe je abohaowa-y sheti nokli-biliti
> abohaowa. Shekhane manners, etiquette-er chhoDachhodi, ebong
> Monisha-r-o ta'te conditioned hoye shegulo-ke appreciate kora-ta
> swabhabik. emotobosthay Bishwanathan-er moton akjon suave
> character-er 'charm' protakhyan kora ki khub shwabhabik,
Monisha je oi abohaowa'tey `conditioned' sheta apni janlen ki korey? TNar to
ogulo bhalo nao lagtei parey. Ar jodi shey conditioned hoy-o, taholeo ki patro
bachhai korar tNar ekmatro criteron `manners' ar `etiquette'?
Ar, Bishwanathan'er suavity'r chaitey Arun M'r Monisha'key Monika bolata bodhhoi
beshi charming.
> security-ta jodi chheDe-o diy?
`jodi' abar ki?
>> Ar, karon ki shobshomoi khub apato hoi?
> Ta hoy na, tobe chhobi-te sheta sommondhe ingit na dile chhobi-ti
> durbodhyo hoye poDe.
Ektu bhabna-chintar shujog-o dyai. Director jodi screen thekey mukh baDiyey
bolen "Dekho go, tomader ami eta bojhachhi"- taholey ki apnar khub bhalo lagto?
>>Ta holeo, amar khudro obhigyottai, bangali mohilader shondehobatik kintu
>>purusher chaitey kom hoi, ektu `aha,bachha'gochher byapar t(N)ader thakei.
>>Shutorang, shey arthey Anila byatikrom noi.
> apni jaake bolchhen "bangali mohilader shondehobatik kintu
> purusher chaitey kom hoi" ku-lok-e sheta-kei onyobhabe
> phrase kore "bangali mohila-der gullibility purushder
> cheye beshi" :)
Ku-loke-e ki `gullible' mohilader `mohiyoshi' bolen?
>>Ebarey ekta nibedon achhey. Prothomdikey amar namer pechhoney `debi'ta
>>shuntey kharap lagto na, agey keu konodin boleni kina. Aajkaal khub ashwosti
>>hoi, apnara jodi daya korey ota bad den, taholey badhito hoi.
> You too?
Kintu ami to nijer naam'er pechhoney `debi' konodin boshai ni :)
>Onyotro:
>>> Hoyto thik-i bolchhen, kintu ami karon onusondhan
>>> korchhilum na. dNaDan moshai, mohiyoshi bolte-i churdik
>>> theke phNosh-phNash ja chhobol-er awaj ashchhe! Ota aage
>>> established hok, taarpor to kaaron.
>>`phNosh-phNash ja chhobol'!!!!! Sambitbabu, apni ki phuler ghayey
>>murchha jan naki?
Khub high-velocity-te marle jete paari. 'chhobol' shobdo-ta
bodle noy 'nyaj-er jhaptani' kore nin. :)
Ki ar bolbo, apni nijei jakhon shikar korey niechhen ja asthaney-kusthaney
bod roshikkota korata apnar mudradosh.
Regards,
Srabani
> Sambit Basu (sam...@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote:
>
> : Aar sondeho je onar prothomdile-o chhilo na, sheta
> : conversation theke establish korte paari, kintu abar TV-r
> : samne khata pencil niye boshte kNuDemi laagchhe. Apnar
> : akhono sondeho thakle ogotya sheta-i korte hobe. Janaben.
>
> Chhotoder kothar modhye kotha bolbo na bolbo na koreo bole
> phelchhi. Amar mone hoy Anila-r mamar jaygay jodi Dipankar-er (ki jano
> choritro-tar nam?) mashi ashten tahole dujoner-i ulto reaction
> hoto. Ekhane duto effect akshathe kaj korchhe:
Dipankar-er mashi na eshe mama eleo ultotai hoto tai noye ki Indranil
babu? Eta comes more from ones possesiveness towards ones own relatives.
Anila choto theke taar oi mama-r galpo shune taar proti ekta special
feeling toiri hoechhe mone. Kintu Dipankar-er to she chance neyi tai na?
She to onake just akta utko lok bhabchhe. Tar je kono sympathy-I neyi.
> Indranil.
Chaitali
> ogulo bhalo nao lagtei parey. Ar jodi shey conditioned hoy-o, taholeo ki patro
> bachhai korar tNar ekmatro criteron `manners' ar `etiquette'?
> Ar, Bishwanathan'er suavity'r chaitey Arun M'r Monisha'key Monika bolata bodhhoi
> beshi charming.
Patro keno Srabani jekono lok-er shonge even bondhutto korte giyeO ki
manush taar 'manners' aar 'etiquette' beshi dekhe naaki? Aar ta chaDa
manusher chahiDa ki shob somoy ato mepe mepe ashe 'logical' system-er
haath dhore?
> Ku-loke-e ki `gullible' mohilader `mohiyoshi' bolen?
Somoy o subhidhe moto ei duto shobdo byabohar kore lok-e jaano to?
> Kintu ami to nijer naam'er pechhoney `debi' konodin boshai ni :)
Ekane amar ekta proshno achhe. Babu shobder utpotti niye jemon ekta
sundor alochona hoyechilo temni ei debi shobder utpotti niye jodi keu
ektu alokpat korte paren. Meyeder naam-er pechhone debi/dasi byabohar
korar reowaj kobe theke aar kenoi ba?
> Ki ar bolbo, apni nijei jakhon shikar korey niechhen ja asthaney-kusthaney
> bod roshikkota korata apnar mudradosh.
Mudradosh jinishta bodhhoe nevous system-er problem. Roshikota-ta ki oi
system theke ashe?
> Regards,
> Srabani
Chaitali
> Ar `classic' prem-er situation kirokom? Apni konodin Mills&Boon
> poDechhen? Ami ekkaley prochur poDtam. Darun prem'er situation thakto.
> Tar tulonai to Uttam-Suchitra ekebarey jolo.
Eta tumi thik bolle na. Mills and Boon-er nayikara kintu beshir bhaag
somoy khoob durbol choritrer hoye. She tulonaye Suchitra kintu prem-er
drishyeo khoob tejoshyi. Bangali purush je sheta ki kore appreciate
korechhe, sheta ami thik bujhe uTte paari na.
> Kintu tai boley Uttamkumar'key dekhey paglagarodey jetey holey lokey bolbey
> ki?
Duur pagla garod aar psychiatrist ki aak holo? Aajkaal
regular psychaitrist achhe maane tini khoob kormobyasto manyi lok. Tobe
tumi jodi sheta hote na chayo to alada kotha.
> Srabani
Chaitali
: [...]
: >: >>shey majhey-modhyey Monisha'key
: >: >>Monika boley, ta chhaDa?
: > Eta to spoonerism chara kichu noi..
: **quote**
: **endquote**
: Sutorang, Snehasis eta spoonerism noy. :)
Dhyanabad, ota slip of tongue bolle bhalo chilo.
: >: > tachhaDa, dekhun she nije-i shwikaar korechhe je taar jabotiyo
: >: > shahosh (Raybabhadur-er chakri-r offer protyakhan kora)
: >: > himalay-er sannidhye eshe hoyechhe, kolkata-y taar ei shahosh
: >: > hoto na, shekhane she jabotiyo modhyobitto-kuntha niye bNeche
: >: > thake. Ekhane-i to she roktomangsho diye goDa hoye jay.
: > Tar maney? raktomangsho niye goraa choritro pochondo noi, Sambit?
: tar maane ei dNaDalo ki kore Snehasis? Ami to bolchhilum
: Monisha thik 'roktomangsher' noy bole choritro-ta amar
: pochhondo noy.
Sambit, kothatha eiykhaney Arun Mukherjee ke niye hoechilo,
Monisha ke niye noi.
: > Tumi ki sonaar murti khunjcho?
: Pele mondo hoy na. Madhukori kore aar je chole na! :)
Se ki hey, taholey eiydeshey aacho keno :-)
Edikey rupee-er devaluation er janyo sonaar daam bere geche..
aar tumi literalist keno he eto?
: > Tumi abaar eto idealist kobe thekey
: > holey?
: chhilum-i to! :)
Sotti, tumi na cynical chile?
: Regards,
: Sambit
Cricket khela dekhcho?
Snehasis
>Eta tumi thik bolle na. Mills and Boon-er nayikara kintu beshir bhaag
>somoy khoob durbol choritrer hoye. She tulonaye Suchitra kintu prem-er
>drishyeo khoob tejoshyi.
Tai ki? Purboraag porbey uni tej onekta dekhan botey ( `Shaptapodi'r
"You Blackie brute" monet acchey?), kintu tarpor anuraag porbey eshey
chokher jaley screen bhashiyey raager to ar leshmatro rakhen na.
>Bangali purush je sheta ki kore appreciate
>korechhe, sheta ami thik bujhe uTte paari na.
Shob cinemay uni ekbar korey UttamKumar'er ghor guchhiyey den, katha nei
barta nei, `tabo bijoy mukut' gochher gaan geyey phelen - er poreo chheleder
bhalo lagbey na, bolo ki?
Srabani
> Chaitali Basu wrote
>
> >Eta tumi thik bolle na. Mills and Boon-er nayikara kintu beshir bhaag
> >somoy khoob durbol choritrer hoye. She tulonaye Suchitra kintu prem-er
> >drishyeo khoob tejoshyi.
>
> Tai ki? Purboraag porbey uni tej onekta dekhan botey ( `Shaptapodi'r
> "You Blackie brute" monet acchey?), kintu tarpor anuraag porbey eshey
> chokher jaley screen bhashiyey raager to ar leshmatro rakhen na.
Kintu Mills and Boon-e je kono porbei kono tej thake na. Dakho na beshir
bhaag somoy nayok hon shob guun-e guuni aar nayika ek pitri-matri heen
meye. Tremendous insecurity (maane je security-r kotha Monisha-r khetre
bola hochhilo aar ki)-te bhugchhe. Taar proti nayok-er shamanyo
attention-ei she mugdho hoye jachhe. Tarpor nayok onno kono meyer proti
attention dile chokher jol lukiye nijeke shoriye nichhe. Aar sheshe
nayok-er protyaborton taar kachhe. Ei to plot beshir bhaag khetre. Taar
tulonate ki 'Shaptapadi'-r Suchitra tejoshyi non?
> >Bangali purush je sheta ki kore appreciate
> >korechhe, sheta ami thik bujhe uTte paari na.
>
> Shob cinemay uni ekbar korey UttamKumar'er ghor guchhiyey den, katha nei
> barta nei, `tabo bijoy mukut' gochher gaan geyey phelen - er poreo chheleder
> bhalo lagbey na, bolo ki?
Kintu onek khetre je Suchitra nije bhalo-lagar kothayo aag baDiye
giye bolechhen (Cinema-r naam jiggesh koro na mone neyi, just
impression-ta achhe). Eta ki bangali somaj-e gorhito aporadh noye? Meyera
shudhu indication debe. Bhalo legechhe bolar odhikar to tader neyi. Bollei
je kelengkari.
> Srabani
Chaitali
> Sambit, Ghor-e Baire-te kintu Sandip-er character Swatilekha-r thek-e
> onek beshi bolistho chhilo, right?
Swatilekha-r aar Sandip-er swadeshi andolon shombonde exposure-er ato
tofat chilo je e duto choritrer ki tulona chole Shubu-babu? Sandip-er
shonge Nikhilesh-er choritrer tulona chole kintu Bimala-r to takhon shobe
exposure hochhe. Taar shikhte somoy lagbe aar tobei na konto thik aar
konta bhul taar bichar korbe she?
> -Shubu
Chaitali
: Ato proshongsha jakhon korchen takhon sahosh kore jiggesh korei felchi
: je ki ki gaan achhe ektu mone koriye deben?
Amar shobcheye priyo: Shondhya Mukhopadhyay-er golay `..bondhu jeno e to
khela noy ...'.
Ar Hemanter `Jodi bhabo e to khela noy, bhul she to shonabei ..'.
Chhobite gaan duto pithopithi chhilo. Dwigun effect hoyechhe.
: Aar 'classic' prem-ta ki jinish Indranil-babu?
Onekta classic coca-cola-r moto. Ektu mishti, ektu kora. Formula-ta bola
baron. Tobe pepsi-r shathe guliye phelar kono shombhabona nei.
: > (`Complex'-er jonyeo baro baro daktar chamber khule boshe
: > achhe.)
: Srabani bodhhoe oi poisa-ta bNachate chayichhe Indranil-babu.
Insurance comapny-r poysha bNachabar cheshta korchhen? Ke bole bangali
meyera mohiyoshi noy?!!!
Indranil.
: Shunechhi mugdhota naki onekshomoi manush'key ondho korey, eta ki sherokom
: byapar?
Amar khetre hole ashchorjo hobo na.
: >:-) Ami-o (ma-kali sref research korbo bole) du akta pore
: >dekhechhi.
: Apnar buker pata achhey Indranilbabu. Aaj porjonto kono chhelekey ei
: katha'ta shikar kortey shunini.:-)
Chhele-ra jokhon ektu buro hoye jay tokhon chhotokhato lojja/bhoy kome
jete thake. Apnar chena chhelera akhono joan achhen.
: Apnar research'er phol'ta jantey khub ichhey korchhey, kintu lokey bodhhoi
: `charter' niyey proshno tulbey.
Research beshi dur egoy ni. Funding-er obhab!
: >Lokkho kore dekhechhen ki je purush choritro-ra kono kajkormo
: >kore na? Tader shobar-i aktaa jomidari thake.
: BaDti qualification hishebey tNara shobai UttamKumar'er moto shob parikhkhai
: prothom hoi.
: >`Jolo' bolte apni ki bojhachhcen ta na bujhe kono montobyo korchhi
: >na.
: Ei niyey ami ar katha baDachhi na, retreat korlam.
Heh, heh, heh. Apni ar Sambit ki poshchadaposhoron-er palla dichchhen
naki?
: >: `Inferiority complex' shamanyo `complex'? Bolen ki??
: >Tamon shanghatik-i ba ki? Amar to dine dubar kore hoy.
: Keno hoi?
Shotyi shotyi inferior bolei mone hoy.
: >Ah paglagarod bolchhen kano? Bolun sanitorium. Baro baro lokera hawa
: >bodlate jay. Koto shombhabonamoy jayga. Deep jele jai dekhechhen?
: Dekhechhi. Nurse'era to shekhaney shobai mohila. Shutorang shombhabona
: to shekhaney apnader jonyo.
Daktar-era kintu onekei purush. Tachhara shudhu Nurse ar daktar-erai ki
thaken oshob jaygay?
BTW, `alo amar alo' dekhechhen ki?
Indranil.
> Chaitali Basu (chaitali@spcm4) wrote:
> : On 9 Feb 1996, Indranil DasGupta wrote:
> : > Gaangulo oshadharon. Kichhu `classic' prem-er situation chhilo ja
> : > ajkalkar cinemay paoa jay na.
>
> : Ato proshongsha jakhon korchen takhon sahosh kore jiggesh korei felchi
> : je ki ki gaan achhe ektu mone koriye deben?
>
> Amar shobcheye priyo: Shondhya Mukhopadhyay-er golay `..bondhu jeno e to
> khela noy ...'.
> Ar Hemanter `Jodi bhabo e to khela noy, bhul she to shonabei ..'.
>
> Chhobite gaan duto pithopithi chhilo. Dwigun effect hoyechhe.
Ebaar abar birokto korchi sequence-er jonno. Ekjon 'khela' bhabchilo aar
onnojon serious chilo bolchen? Maane gaan-er quoted line theke tai
mone hochhe.
> : Aar 'classic' prem-ta ki jinish Indranil-babu?
>
> Onekta classic coca-cola-r moto. Ektu mishti, ektu kora. Formula-ta bola
> baron. Tobe pepsi-r shathe guliye phelar kono shombhabona nei.
Maane shei Chandidas-er prem-er moto bolchen? Ki jaano shob chilo :
purboraag, anuraag aro shob ki. Srabani-r mone achhe naaki? Thakle porpor
shajiye diyo. Dekhajak Indranil-babu-r gopon formula-ta amra reconstruct
korte paari kina.
> : > (`Complex'-er jonyeo baro baro daktar chamber khule boshe
> : > achhe.)
>
> : Srabani bodhhoe oi poisa-ta bNachate chayichhe Indranil-babu.
>
> Insurance comapny-r poysha bNachabar cheshta korchhen? Ke bole bangali
> meyera mohiyoshi noy?!!!
Amader ekhane prothome nijer gNat theke khorchha korte hoye, tarpor
insurance company daye. Ta apnader system-e jodi gNat theke khorcha korte
na hoye to kono ashubidhe neyi. Aar rokhye korun aar jayi
galagali din, 'mohiyoshi' bolben na.
> Indranil.
Chaitali
>Indranil.
Achha, Manna aar Lata'r ei gaan ta "ke prothom kaache eshe chi..." ki
Chawa pawa'r? Hemanta'r gaan ta jeta mention korecho, sheta te shonabei'r
jyagai "shurutei" hobena?
Bangla cinema te classic prem'er gaan o drishyo ekta list banale kemon
hoye? Amar du charte ja mone poDche tai likhchi:
1. Apur Sansar'e ekta scene ache: Apu ghoom theke uthbo-uthbo korche,
kintu uthchena; "Sharmila"'r dike balishe matha rekhe cheye ache...
2. Saptapadi te Uttam aar Suchitra Othello natok'e te obhinoi korche.
3. Charulata: ... "ar bouthan, behaya!"
Pore mone poDle likhbo.
-Joydeep
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Joydeep Bhattacharya
Department of Economics
Cornell University
Ithaca NY 14853-7601
Phone (607) 256 2310
Fax (607) 255 2818
E-mail: jb...@cornell.edu
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Chaitali
On 12 Feb 1996, Srabani Banerjee wrote:
> Indranil Dasgupta wrote:
> >: Kirokom gaan, Indranilbabu? Apni ekhaney shudhu CP'r katha bolley aboshyo
> >: kichhu boltey parbo na. Kintu gaangulo'r jonyo ki cinema dekhata joruri?
> >: Emnioto shona jai. UttamKumar jakhon lipstick ar kajol mekhey `Ei path
> >: jodi na shesh hoi'tey lip den, takhon dekhtey khub bhalo lagey?
>
> >Ami hoyto chokhe otota bhalo dekhina, tobe orokom motorcycle-e dhaboman
> >prem dekhe amader barite amra purushanukrome mugdho hoyechhi.
>
> Shunechhi mugdhota naki onekshomoi manush'key ondho korey, eta ki sherokom
> byapar?
Eta ekta khNati kotha bolechho. Mugdhota shudhu andho na, kala, boba,
budhibhrom aro onek kichhu kore.
> >Lokkho kore dekhechhen ki je purush choritro-ra kono kajkormo
> >kore na? Tader shobar-i aktaa jomidari thake.
>
> BaDti qualification hishebey tNara shobai UttamKumar'er moto shob parikhkhai
> prothom hoi.
Aar dekhte rajputturer moto hoye na?
> >: > Shamanyo `complex' toiri hoye jabe bole
> >: >dekhben na eta ekta kotha holo? Complex eriye eriye ki bNeche thaka
> >: >shombhob? Ba oibhabe bNachata ki bNacha? (scb-te jhorer purbabhash
> >: >pachchhi).
>
> >: `Inferiority complex' shamanyo `complex'? Bolen ki??
>
> >Tamon shanghatik-i ba ki? Amar to dine dubar kore hoy.
>
> Keno hoi?
Research korte eshe e ki prosno korcho? Roj mone hoye na je "amar
creativity -ve cholchhe. Ei research line-tate ami akkebare bemanan?"
> Srabani
Chaitali
>: Apnar buker pata achhey Indranilbabu. Aaj porjonto kono chhelekey ei
>: katha'ta shikar kortey shunini.:-)
>Chhele-ra jokhon ektu buro hoye jay tokhon chhotokhato lojja/bhoy kome
>jete thake.
Ta thik.
>Apnar chena chhelera akhono joan achhen.
O ma, apni tNader shobaikey chenen bujhi?
>: Ei niyey ami ar katha baDachhi na, retreat korlam.
>Heh, heh, heh. Apni ar Sambit ki poshchadaposhoron-er palla dichchhen
>naki?
Ta, apnader shathey palla deoar jaiga jakhon ektai...
>: >: `Inferiority complex' shamanyo `complex'? Bolen ki??
>: >Tamon shanghatik-i ba ki? Amar to dine dubar kore hoy.
>: Keno hoi?
>Shotyi shotyi inferior bolei mone hoy.
Apnar to shanghatik abostha, daktar dekhan.
>: >Ah paglagarod bolchhen kano? Bolun sanitorium. Baro baro lokera hawa
>: >bodlate jay. Koto shombhabonamoy jayga. Deep jele jai dekhechhen?
>: Dekhechhi. Nurse'era to shekhaney shobai mohila. Shutorang shombhabona
>: to shekhaney apnader jonyo.
>Daktar-era kintu onekei purush.
Kintu tNara to lok dekhlei mathar rog khNujtey boshen
>Tachhara shudhu Nurse ar daktar-erai ki
>thaken oshob jaygay?
Na, aro onekey thaken. Apnar katha meney cholley dudin badey amakeo tNader
doley jog ditey hobey.
>BTW, `alo amar alo' dekhechhen ki?
Na.
Regards,
Srabani
C> On 10 Feb 1996, Shubu Mukherjee wrote:
>> Sambit, Ghor-e Baire-te kintu Sandip-er character Swatilekha-r thek-e
>> onek beshi bolistho chhilo, right?
C> Swatilekha-r aar Sandip-er swadeshi andolon shombonde exposure-er ato
C> tofat chilo je e duto choritrer ki tulona chole Shubu-babu? Sandip-er
C> shonge Nikhilesh-er choritrer tulona chole kintu Bimala-r to takhon shobe
C> exposure hochhe. Taar shikhte somoy lagbe aar tobei na konto thik aar
C> konta bhul taar bichar korbe she?
Horibol!
I actually meant Nikhilesh (Victor Banerjee) in the above comment.
: >: Apnar buker pata achhey Indranilbabu. Aaj porjonto kono chhelekey ei
: >: katha'ta shikar kortey shunini.:-)
: >Chhele-ra jokhon ektu buro hoye jay tokhon chhotokhato lojja/bhoy kome
: >jete thake.
: Ta thik.
: >Apnar chena chhelera akhono joan achhen.
: O ma, apni tNader shobaikey chenen bujhi?
Apnar lekha pore jotota chena jay tar beshi na. Apni-i to bollen je apni
amar moto buker pata kono chheler dekhen ni ...ityadi. Amar dharona
bardhokyer chNoya lagle oituku shahosh apna thekei ashe. (Apni-o akmot.)
Er theke jotota jana jay. Ekhane onyo kono shombhabona thakte pare mone
hoy ni.Akhon apni prosno-ta kore koutuhol jagiye dilen....
: >: Ei niyey ami ar katha baDachhi na, retreat korlam.
: >Heh, heh, heh. Apni ar Sambit ki poshchadaposhoron-er palla dichchhen
: >naki?
: Ta, apnader shathey palla deoar jaiga jakhon ektai...
Ei pNyak-ta shudhu Sambit-er paona. (Gane-bajnay, rannar hate ami or
kachhe go-haran here jabo. Kintu poschadoposhoroner bepare-o or shathe
amar kono tulona hoy na).
: >: >: `Inferiority complex' shamanyo `complex'? Bolen ki??
: >: >Tamon shanghatik-i ba ki? Amar to dine dubar kore hoy.
: >: Keno hoi?
: >Shotyi shotyi inferior bolei mone hoy.
: Apnar to shanghatik abostha, daktar dekhan.
Etai to bojhate chaichhi. Obostha-ta tamon shanghatik kichhu noy.
Tachhara nijer bolte to oyi ekta-duto jinish-i achhe. Inferiority
complex chole gele identity crisis-e dhorbe!
Indranil.
>: O ma, apni tNader shobaikey chenen bujhi?
>Apnar lekha pore jotota chena jay tar beshi na. Apni-i to bollen je apni
>amar moto buker pata kono chheler dekhen ni ...ityadi. Amar dharona
>bardhokyer chNoya lagle oituku shahosh apna thekei ashe. (Apni-o akmot.)
Just holo na. Ami apnar shathey akmot je boyesher shathey shathey chheleder
chhotokhato lojja, ityadi choley jai kintu tai boley shobar khetrey je
matra'ta eki hobet tar kono manet nei.
>Er theke jotota jana jay. Ekhane onyo kono shombhabona thakte pare mone
>hoy ni.Akhon apni prosno-ta kore koutuhol jagiye dilen....
Koutuhol'tao ki boyesher shathey baDey?
>: Ta, apnader shathey palla deoar jaiga jakhon ektai...
>Ei pNyak-ta shudhu Sambit-er paona. (Gane-bajnay, rannar hate ami or
>kachhe go-haran here jabo. Kintu poschadoposhoroner bepare-o or shathe
>amar kono tulona hoy na).
PNyak? Apnader pNyak debar moto dhrishtota amar nei, Indranilbabu. Apni to
binoyer protimurtti ar apnar Sambitbabu to ritimoto mahapurush (gaan-bajna,
ranna, cinema'r script, kobita... bhagyish er shathey biplob'tao koren na)!
Apnader shathey palla debo kothay bolun?
Regards,
Srabani
: > Amar shobcheye priyo: Shondhya Mukhopadhyay-er golay `..bondhu jeno e to
: > khela noy ...'.
: > Ar Hemanter `Jodi bhabo e to khela noy, bhul she to shonabei ..'.
: >
: > Chhobite gaan duto pithopithi chhilo. Dwigun effect hoyechhe.
: Ebaar abar birokto korchi sequence-er jonno. Ekjon 'khela' bhabchilo aar
: onnojon serious chilo bolchen? Maane gaan-er quoted line theke tai
: mone hochhe.
Ei drishye, kichhukhokhoner jonyo patro-patri dujonei serious.
Akashe shombhoboto chNad chhilo. Suchitra Sen-er choritro gaaner aral
theke moner kotha bolchhe. Uttam Kumar-er choritro
class-conscious. Boroloker meyeke ato shohoje paoa jay na jene dukkher shathe
protyakhyan korchhe.
Drishye aro duti choritro chhilo. Gaaner adan prodan tamon oshwabhabik
mone hoy ni. Srotar onurodh rakhte gaoa gaan.
: Dekhajak Indranil-babu-r gopon formula-ta amra reconstruct
: korte paari kina.
Coca-Colar-tao try kore dekhte paren. Bingsho shotoke er cheye baro
kono abishkar hoyni.
Indranil.
: Bangla cinema te classic prem'er gaan o drishyo ekta list banale kemon
: hoye? Amar du charte ja mone poDche tai likhchi:
: 1. Apur Sansar'e ekta scene ache: Apu ghoom theke uthbo-uthbo korche,
: kintu uthchena; "Sharmila"'r dike balishe matha rekhe cheye ache...
: 2. Saptapadi te Uttam aar Suchitra Othello natok'e te obhinoi korche.
: 3. Charulata: ... "ar bouthan, behaya!"
Apu-r Shangshar-er drishyo-take thik `Classic prem'-er drishyo bole
mante parchhi na. Satyajit Ray-er prem-er drishyo khub bastob
ghNesha. Bastob-ke ektu chhapiye na gele `Classic prem' hoy na.
Saptapadi ba Harano Sur-e kichchu kichchu drishyo `Classic prem' hobo
hobo koreo hoye othe ni. `Pothe holo deri'-r `kichhukhon aro na hoy
rohite kachhe' gaaner drishyo-tao close. `Dadar kirti'-te Tarun
Majumdar `chorono dhorite ..' byabohar kore clssic prem-er shonar kathi
chhNuyiyechhilen. Tarun Majumdar eta parten. Balika Bodhu-te ekadhikbar
tar proman diyechhen.
Majhe majhe jubok juboti-ke shudhu pashapashi hNatiye chomotkar prem-er
drishyo dekhano jay (Sadanander mela, Share chuattor).
Ingreji cinemay
dekha prem-er drishyer modhye Kapra'r `It's a most wonderful world'-er
kotha mone porchhe. Arekti priyo drishyo achhe `Summer of forty
two'-te. Jodio shetake thik prem-er drishyo bola jay na bodh-hoy.
Indranil.
PS: `Moscow distrusts tears' ba `The gypsy camp vanishes into the blue'
ba `An office affair' keu dekhechhen? Russian-ra prem-ta bhaloi dekhay
kintu. Delhi-te oder cultural centre -e akshomoy eshob dekhechhi.
> Ei drishye, kichhukhokhoner jonyo patro-patri dujonei serious.
> Akashe shombhoboto chNad chhilo. Suchitra Sen-er choritro gaaner aral
> theke moner kotha bolchhe. Uttam Kumar-er choritro
> class-conscious. Boroloker meyeke ato shohoje paoa jay na jene dukkher shathe
> protyakhyan korchhe.
>
> Drishye aro duti choritro chhilo. Gaaner adan prodan tamon oshwabhabik
> mone hoy ni. Srotar onurodh rakhte gaoa gaan.
Apnar shotti bhashar jor achhe. Amar eibaar cinema-ta puro mone poDe
gechhe.
> : Dekhajak Indranil-babu-r gopon formula-ta amra reconstruct
> : korte paari kina.
>
> Coca-Colar-tao try kore dekhte paren. Bingsho shotoke er cheye baro
> kono abishkar hoyni.
Kintu shetao to jaani na. Apni "onekta coca-colar-r moto" bolechilen.
Kintu formula gopon, bolben na bolechhen kina.
> Indranil.
Chaitali
: Just holo na. Ami apnar shathey akmot je boyesher shathey shathey chheleder
: chhotokhato lojja, ityadi choley jai kintu tai boley shobar khetrey je
: matra'ta eki hobet tar kono manet nei.
Abar amra akmot. (Stalemate hoye jachchhe je!). Tarunyo, bardhokyo,
lojja shobkichhur-i matra ... grading ... achhe. Abar patrobhed-e
matra-bhed hoao bichotro noy. Ami jake kNacha aam bolbo apni take-i
kNacha-mithe bole shomador korte paren. Prosno holo ... prosno holo
... (jah guliye jachchhe mairi) ... mohot udyeshyo niyei `joan' kothata
byabohar korechhilam. Apni ki kajta gorhit bhablen?
: >Er theke jotota jana jay. Ekhane onyo kono shombhabona thakte pare mone
: >hoy ni.Akhon apni prosno-ta kore koutuhol jagiye dilen....
: Koutuhol'tao ki boyesher shathey baDey?
Good question. DNaran bhebe boli.
Apnar ei prosnoti-ki nichhok koutuhol jonito? Dhora jak noy. Kintu
ei dhore neoar pichhonei arekti prosno lukiye achhe. Koutuhol jonito na
hole ki jonito? Motive ki? (Alibi-er kotha chherei dilaam).
Beej theke jonmay koutuhol. Tarpor prosn-er charagachh. Koutuhol-er beej
prithibite chhorano. Boyesher shathe shathe manush bodh-hoy kichhuta
agachha control korte shekhe. Baje koutuhol-er beej theke prosn-er
charagachh-ti gojate day na.
Honest opinion dilaam. Abar akmot ki?
: >: Ta, apnader shathey palla deoar jaiga jakhon ektai...
: >Ei pNyak-ta shudhu Sambit-er paona. (Gane-bajnay, rannar hate ami or
: >kachhe go-haran here jabo. Kintu poschadoposhoroner bepare-o or shathe
: >amar kono tulona hoy na).
: PNyak? Apnader pNyak debar moto dhrishtota amar nei, Indranilbabu. Apni to
: binoyer protimurtti ar apnar Sambitbabu to ritimoto mahapurush (gaan-bajna,
: ranna, cinema'r script, kobita... bhagyish er shathey biplob'tao koren na)!
Bhagyish!!! Onyo byapaargulo niye shotyi pNyak deben na. Ektuo bariye
boli ni. Bishshash na hoy to Atlantic City ghure ashun. Or garir
radio-ta bhanga. Kintu driver-i shara rasta matiye rakhbe. Amar bou to
oke chhoto shalikar jonyo pray book kore phelechhilo. Nehat meyeti
nabalika.
: Apnader shathey palla debo kothay bolun?
Ping-pong-e cheshta kore dekhte paren. (Football-e bodh-hoy parben na).
Indranil.
>Abar amra akmot. (Stalemate hoye jachchhe je!).
Apotti achhey?
>Tarunyo, bardhokyo,
>lojja shobkichhur-i matra ... grading ... achhe. Abar patrobhed-e
>matra-bhed hoao bichotro noy. Ami jake kNacha aam bolbo apni take-i
>kNacha-mithe bole shomador korte paren. Prosno holo ... prosno holo
>... (jah guliye jachchhe mairi) ... mohot udyeshyo niyei `joan' kothata
>byabohar korechhilam. Apni ki kajta gorhit bhablen?
Ta patrobhed-e motobaad'tao jokhon paltai tokhon apnar `mohot
udyeshyo'ta amar otota mohot nao monet hotey parey.
>: Koutuhol'tao ki boyesher shathey baDey?
>Good question. DNaran bhebe boli.
>Apnar ei prosnoti-ki nichhok koutuhol jonito? Dhora jak noy.
Keno? Shob proshner pechhonei koutohol to kichhuta thakei. koutuhol'er aboshyo
rokompher hoi.
>Kintu
>ei dhore neoar pichhonei arekti prosno lukiye achhe. Koutuhol jonito na
>hole ki jonito? Motive ki? (Alibi-er kotha chherei dilaam).
>Beej theke jonmay koutuhol. Tarpor prosn-er charagachh. Koutuhol-er beej
>prithibite chhorano. Boyesher shathe shathe manush bodh-hoy kichhuta
>agachha control korte shekhe. Baje koutuhol-er beej theke prosn-er
>charagachh-ti gojate day na.
Apnar khetrey ki tar byatikrom ghotchhey dhorey nebo?
>Honest opinion dilaam. Abar akmot ki?
Ta eta apnar dishonest opinion ero'm bhabar to kono karon nei.
: >: Ta, apnader shathey palla deoar jaiga jakhon ektai...
>Bhagyish!!! Onyo byapaargulo niye shotyi pNyak deben na. Ektuo bariye
>boli ni. Bishshash na hoy to Atlantic City ghure ashun. Or garir
>radio-ta bhanga. Kintu driver-i shara rasta matiye rakhbe.
Tar dorkar nei. Apnar katha bishshash korlam.
>Amar bou to
>oke chhoto shalikar jonyo pray book kore phelechhilo. Nehat meyeti
>nabalika.
Shabalika howa porjonto ektu opekhkha korun. Khub beshidiner to byapar noi
nishchoi.
>: Apnader shathey palla debo kothay bolun?
>Ping-pong-e cheshta kore dekhte paren. (Football-e bodh-hoy parben na).
Walk-over dilam. (dutotei)
Srabani
>>> Ta, apnader shathey palla deoar jaiga jakhon ektai...
>
>>Bhagyish!!! Onyo byapaargulo niye shotyi pNyak deben na. Ektuo bariye
>>boli ni. Bishshash na hoy to Atlantic City ghure ashun. Or garir
>>radio-ta bhanga. Kintu driver-i shara rasta matiye rakhbe.
>
>Tar dorkar nei. Apnar katha bishshash korlam.
Sambit'r sukhyati shunei ek katha-i mene nilen Srabanidebi?
>Srabani
Apratim.
--
No doubt the world is entirely an Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are
imaginary world, but it is only once are my own and shouldn't be construed in
removed from the true world. any way to represent that of my employer.
- Isaac Bashevis Singer.
>>Tar dorkar nei. Apnar katha bishshash korlam.
> Sambit'r sukhyati shunei ek katha-i mene nilen Srabanidebi?
Ta je keu bolley ki meney nitam? Nehat, Indranilbabu bollen,tai..
Apnar onyorokom motamot thakley janan, bhebey dekhbo.
Srabani
Iye mane, Indranil'r anyanyo kathabarta jemon chatapat challenge karen,
tai bujhte parini apni or katha eto manen. Bhablam bujhi context-
sensitive apnar e-i mene neowa. Na mash'e chha-mash'e emonti hoi kina,
tai. Ta ar ki IDG, kabe khaowachchho balo?
>Apnar onyorokom motamot thakley janan, bhebey dekhbo.
Ki je balen! Tabe apni bhebe dekhben eta janate bishesh garbobodh
korchhi.
>Srabani Banerjee writes:
>>Ta je keu bolley ki meney nitam? Nehat, Indranilbabu bollen,tai..
> Iye mane, Indranil'r anyanyo kathabarta jemon chatapat challenge karen,
> tai bujhte parini apni or katha eto manen. Bhablam bujhi context-
> sensitive apnar e-i mene neowa. Na mash'e chha-mash'e emonti hoi kina,
> tai. Ta ar ki IDG, kabe khaowachchho balo?
Indranilbabu boyoshko manush. Je byapar'ey kichhui janina shey byaparey
onar katha shudhu shudhu obishshaash-i ba korbo kano bolun?
>>Apnar onyorokom motamot thakley janan, bhebey dekhbo.
> Ki je balen! Tabe apni bhebe dekhben eta janate bishesh garbobodh
> korchhi.
Eta moshai kir'om holo? Apni ki boltey chaichhen ami kichhu bhebey dekhi na?
Srabani
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE....Could somebody help me?
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I have been writing to this newsgroup since last November for
some information.
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--- Amake Doya Kore Shahajjo Koun....? ---
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(sorry about the poor Bangla...)
* Question 1: Does anybody know where I can
purchase/hire/rent/borrow/buy/order the Great Satyajit Ray's --
Apu Sangsar ???
If so please let me know...
* Question 2: Does anybody know if there is a Kumar Shanu version of the
song, originally by Abdul Jobbar---
--- "Balobasha Jodi Jontrona Hoi, Mon Keno Diye Chile...?" ---
If so please let me know wether it is available in this country or if
they know anything about it at all...
My e-mail : as...@coventry.ac.uk
the answer is out there....is it????!!!?????
We bought the trilogy from Facets Video in Chicago (by mailorder) sometime
in the late '80s. The prints of all three are bad -- folks who don't
follow Bengali won't be able to read the subtitles either. Since
Sony Pictures has reissued all 3 (plus 6 others) in theatres, I expect
videos to become available in the coming months. Maybe you should wait?
Facets Video, incidentally, is a large store and rents/sells lots of off-
beat and such films.
Oops. I just noticed that you are writing out of UK. Maybe this note
won't help you at all.:-(
S. Mitra
Amar news-server kana hoye gachhe. Kichhu dekhte pachchhi na.
Ei post-ta theke bujhte parchhi Apra
mathe neme porechhe. (Ja bhoy korechhilaam). Amader most intellectual
alochona-ta ebar galo. Ishshorer kachhe prarthona, Apra-r code-e baro
bug berok.
: Iye mane, Indranil'r anyanyo kathabarta jemon chatapat challenge karen,
: tai bujhte parini apni or katha eto manen. Bhablam bujhi context-
: sensitive apnar e-i mene neowa. Na mash'e chha-mash'e emonti hoi kina,
: tai. Ta ar ki IDG, kabe khaowachchho balo?
Dakho Apratim, tumi ja chaichho ta hobar noy. Srabani-debir shonge
akhono porjonto ekti bishoy-eo amar motanoikyo hoy ni (bhagyish). Net-e
nobagota holeo probeen kichhu netter-ke chomotkar najehal kore uni
amader mugdho korechhen. Ja bolen, motamuti thik-i bolen.
Tumi ki balo, Sambit?
: >Apnar onyorokom motamot thakley janan, bhebey dekhbo.
: Ki je balen! Tabe apni bhebe dekhben eta janate bishesh garbobodh
: korchhi.
Apra, tomar din ghoniye eshechhe. Ter pachchho na. Pore bolo na shotorko
kore di-i ni.
Indranil.
PS: scb je akebare jhimiye porechhe. Eibhabe cholle kintu
(ei kajer chape-o) ekta jothartho baje golpo namiye debo. Hum bolega to
bologe ki bolta hai.
>Net-e
>nobagota holeo probeen kichhu netter-ke chomotkar najehal kore uni
>amader mugdho korechhen. Ja bolen, motamuti thik-i bolen.
>Tumi ki balo, Sambit?
Akshobaar.
Kintu Soumitrababu-r ki holo bolo to?
>PS: scb je akebare jhimiye porechhe.
Ja bolechho. Ami to bhabechhi ebar morphia nite shuru korbo.
Yaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn,
Sambit