Bardhoman theke 2nd class'e daily-passengery korte katokkhon lage?
Apratim Sarkar
na. Tabe mone holo, poRlam e'i (Anindya-manab'r lekhai), je LF'r deputy
CM Binoybabu naki Bardhoman theke 2nd class'e daily passengery kore
Mahakaran'e jatayat koren, Gandhiyana bajai rakhte.
Ekhon, amar hishebe tate anoto 30 minutes station'e pNouchhote Bardhoman'e,
2-2.5 hours train'e, tarpar Howrah theke anototo ek ghanta rush hour'e
bus paowa dhore. I.e. total 3.5-4 hours.
Tahole uni office karen kakhan? 7-8 ghanta to commute kortei gelo, tar ekta
dhakal'o achhe. Sadhe Mahakaran'r aj e'i abostha!
Apratim.
--
No doubt the world is entirely an Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are
imaginary world, but it is only once are my own and shouldn't be construed in
removed from the true world. any way to represent that of my employer.
- Isaac Bashevis Singer.
sayan bhattacharyya
Apratim Sarkar <asa...@us.oracle.com> wrote:
>Thik poRlam ki bhul poRlam jani na, original post'tao ar khNuje pachchhi
>na. Tabe mone holo, poRlam e'i (Anindya-manab'r lekhai), je LF'r deputy
>CM Binoybabu naki Bardhoman theke 2nd class'e daily passengery kore
>Mahakaran'e jatayat koren,
Another comment on a long-lost thread involving a discussion that Apratim
and I had about the relative physical labor and worth involved in the
work done by ragpickers in Calcutta and white-collar computer programmers.
I just finished reading a memorable book by Carolina Maria de Jesus which
I encourage everyone who followed that discussion, to read. I have rarely
read a book that has moved me so deeply. The book has apparently been
translated twice into English, once under the title of "Beyond All Pity"
and once under the title of "Child of the Dark" and possibly also under
other titles. So please, please look up Carolina Maria de Jesus in your
library catalog and read any translation of this book that you can lay
your hands on. It is a moving human document and I was reminded of Calcutta
on every page as I read through it.
I must warn however that it is an emotionally draining book to read (at
least I found it so) and so may be hard to read for the soft-hearted.
-Sayan.
Apratim Sarkar
>Another comment on a long-lost thread involving a discussion that Apratim
>and I had about the relative physical labor and worth involved in the
>work done by ragpickers in Calcutta and white-collar computer programmers.
Note of correction: AFAIR, the discussion was not about the relative
physical labor (irrelevant, IMO) or worth (subjective, IMO) involved,
but about the justification (or the lack thereof) of the staggerring
imbalance between the average compensations for the two professions.
>-Sayan.
Chaitali Basu
> Thik poRlam ki bhul poRlam jani na, original post'tao ar khNuje pachchhi
> na. Tabe mone holo, poRlam e'i (Anindya-manab'r lekhai), je LF'r deputy
> CM Binoybabu naki Bardhoman theke 2nd class'e daily passengery kore
> Mahakaran'e jatayat koren, Gandhiyana bajai rakhte.
> Ekhon, amar hishebe tate anoto 30 minutes station'e pNouchhote Bardhoman'e,
> 2-2.5 hours train'e, tarpar Howrah theke anototo ek ghanta rush hour'e
> bus paowa dhore. I.e. total 3.5-4 hours.
> Tahole uni office karen kakhan? 7-8 ghanta to commute kortei gelo, tar ekta
> dhakal'o achhe. Sadhe Mahakaran'r aj e'i abostha!
> Apratim.
Apni bodhhoe janen na je oi Bardhaman line-er anek shadharon office going
jatri shokaal shaDe charte pNachtate baaDi theke beriye raat doshtar aage
baaDi firte paren na. Ebhabeyo lok-e kaaj chalaye. Shob jinish niye
caustic comment na korleyi ki noye? "LF'r deputy CM Binoybabu"-r
travelling niye nayi ba kotha bollum amra. Anindya-r article-ta to kauke
specifically choto korchilo na.
Chaitali
Anindya Ghoshal
: > Apratim.
: Chaitali
Since Apratim-Baboo's original article is yet to appear on my news-server,
I choose to clarify a couple of points through this posting of Chaitali
that have appeared on my server. Firstly I never wrote that Benoy-Babu
travels from Burdwan to Writers daily and back. Please go back and check the
original article. All I said that he travels on second class passenger
trains from Burdwan to Calcutta to and fro. If I remember correctly when
he is in Calcutta he either stays at MLA hostel or at CPI(M) HQ at
Nizamuddin St. So the question of his wasting quality work time in travelling
on trains does not arise. Infact he is one of the very few ministers in LF
who worked hard and did contribute something worthwhile for WB. In a quite
a famous incident in one of those Land Reforms ministry meeting with Zilla
Parishad representatives he lambasted the Zilla Sabha-dipathi and some of
party members for using official cars to come to Calcutta from Burdwan. Anyway
he is one of the very few who is admired across party-lines for his work.
And I have great respects for people like him as have personally seen the
simple principled lives they led and although I personally disagree
to the political philosophy he adhered to. It is regrettable that people
like him lost to the latter-day goondas and corrupt despots.
Anyway my intention of the original article was to clarify some points
to Dr. Bhattacharya who was unable to get a civilized response to his
query and was hurled invectives by Mr. Rajwinder Singh from Boston University.
I added SCB to my posting as I thought I wrote something relevant to Bengal.
My apologies if the readers of SCB are affronted by the above posting.
Anyway my current preoccupations with folding up my dissertation, imminent
job hunt and trying to mollify my friends who feels strongly about being
neglected would henceforth deter me from following up any article.
Hence my advanced apologies if any of my postings had offended anybody.
regards,
Anindya.
----
email address: agho...@eng2.uconn.edu
Indranil DasGupta
: On 29 Mar 1996, Apratim Sarkar wrote:
: > Thik poRlam ki bhul poRlam jani na, original post'tao ar khNuje pachchhi
: > na. Tabe mone holo, poRlam e'i (Anindya-manab'r lekhai), je LF'r deputy
: > CM Binoybabu naki Bardhoman theke 2nd class'e daily passengery kore
: > Mahakaran'e jatayat koren, Gandhiyana bajai rakhte.
: > Ekhon, amar hishebe tate anoto 30 minutes station'e pNouchhote Bardhoman'e,
: > 2-2.5 hours train'e, tarpar Howrah theke anototo ek ghanta rush hour'e
: > bus paowa dhore. I.e. total 3.5-4 hours.
: > Tahole uni office karen kakhan? 7-8 ghanta to commute kortei gelo, tar ekta
: > dhakal'o achhe. Sadhe Mahakaran'r aj e'i abostha!
: > Apratim.
: Apni bodhhoe janen na je oi Bardhaman line-er anek shadharon office going
: jatri shokaal shaDe charte pNachtate baaDi theke beriye raat doshtar aage
: baaDi firte paren na. Ebhabeyo lok-e kaaj chalaye. Shob jinish niye
: caustic comment na korleyi ki noye? "LF'r deputy CM Binoybabu"-r
: travelling niye nayi ba kotha bollum amra. Anindya-r article-ta to kauke
: specifically choto korchilo na.
: Chaitali
Apratim bodh-hoy rajnoitik kichhu bolte chay. Or baba-o kichhudin age
porjonto Bordhomaner Daily Passengery korechhen bole jani. O niye
`caustic comment' ki o korbe?
Indranil.
sayan bhattacharyya
>Shob jinish niye
>caustic comment na korleyi ki noye?
The reason some people feel driven to make "caustic" and cynical comments
at every opportunity, casting doubt on the sincerity and integrity of others,
is very simple. These people have sold their soul to corporatism and have
swallowed the materialistic bait thrown at them, hook, corporatist line
and sinker. They feel it necessary therefore to continually prove that
lifestyles other than theirs, especially lifestyles that do not buy into the
corporatist, materialist agenda, are somehow fraudulent. This helps them to
justify to themselves their own sell-out.
Apratim Sarkar
>Chaitali Basu (chaitali@spcm4) wrote:
>: Apni bodhhoe janen na je oi Bardhaman line-er anek shadharon office going
>: jatri shokaal shaDe charte pNachtate baaDi theke beriye raat doshtar aage
>: baaDi firte paren na.
Jani.
>: Ebhabeyo lok-e kaaj chalaye.
Proshno holo, kemon chalai? Amar baba Bardhoman'r ekti college'e
attrish bachhar poRiye e-i gato bachhar retire korlen. Kolkata
theke commute korten. Onar nijer kathatei, klanti eto beshi hoye
paRe je quality of work khub suffer kare. Tai, finally uni Bardhoman'r
ekti mess'ei thakten Kolkatai stree-putra rekhe diye. Saptahe
ekbar kore jeten ashten. While his family (and much more importantly
for him, his cultural) life sufferred, kaaj'r proti e'i nistha'ti'r
janyo ami shrodhdhashil.
Anyway, my reaction really stemmed from a personal experience
back in Calcutta this January. Telephone kaaj korchhe na, telephone
bhaban'e gelam. Engineer ashen Medinipur theke, train miss korechhen,
tarpar tired hoye tin'ter shamoi elen, kaaj'r abashtha nei, khub tired.
Amake bollen, kalke ashun. Ami chaap dite bollen, dekhte pachchhen na
katodur theke ashi, ektu consider korun. Wonder of wonders!
Naki average'e 70 hour week kore kore ami bokhe gechhi? Tai habe.
>: Shob jinish niye
>: caustic comment na korleyi ki noye?
Shab jinish niye ...? !!
>: "LF'r deputy CM Binoybabu"-r
>: travelling niye nayi ba kotha bollum amra. Anindya-r article-ta to kauke
>: specifically choto korchilo na.
Thik achhe tabe, apnar kathamoto amar future lekhaguli apnake diye
edit koriye nebo.
>: Chaitali
>
>Since Apratim-Baboo's original article is yet to appear on my news-server,
>I choose to clarify a couple of points through this posting of Chaitali
>that have appeared on my server. Firstly I never wrote that Benoy-Babu
>travels from Burdwan to Writers daily and back. Please go back and check the
>original article. All I said that he travels on second class passenger
>trains from Burdwan to Calcutta to and fro. If I remember correctly when
>he is in Calcutta he either stays at MLA hostel or at CPI(M) HQ at
>Nizamuddin St. So the question of his wasting quality work time in travelling
>on trains does not arise.
Thanks much to Anaindyababu for the clarification! Ami e'i amar
lekha'ti firiye nilam. Anindyababu'r lekha'ti dwitiyobar
poRte giye amar news server'e khNuje na peye, as I had mentioned
in my previous post, e'i confusion.
>Infact he is one of the very few ministers in LF
>who worked hard and did contribute something worthwhile for WB. In a quite
>a famous incident in one of those Land Reforms ministry meeting with Zilla
>Parishad representatives he lambasted the Zilla Sabha-dipathi and some of
>party members for using official cars to come to Calcutta from Burdwan. Anyway
>he is one of the very few who is admired across party-lines for his work.
>And I have great respects for people like him as have personally seen the
>simple principled lives they led and although I personally disagree
>to the political philosophy he adhered to. It is regrettable that people
>like him lost to the latter-day goondas and corrupt despots.
Actually, my impression of Binoy Choudhury, too, was pretty close.
He was one of the Kaaj'r loks, etai jantam. "Simple principled
life"'r irrelevance to professional expertise niye alochana baRate
chai na, antoto Chaitalidebi permission na dile. Kintu Anindyababu'r
ager lekha'ti poRe e duti guliye fela hochchhe, kemon sandeho
hoyechhilo.
>regards,
>Anindya.
Regards,
Apratim Sarkar
>Apratim bodh-hoy rajnoitik kichhu bolte chay. Or baba-o kichhudin age
>porjonto Bordhomaner Daily Passengery korechhen bole jani. O niye
>`caustic comment' ki o korbe?
Basically ami "simple principled life"'r shange lok'e je hameshai
kaaj'r byapare dependibility bostu'ti guliye fele - she byapare
kichhu bolte cheyechhilam. Eta amader o'i Barna Porichai'r
"Gopal oti subodh balak. Tahake ja deowa hai she tahai khai."
diye exemplary conduct measure kara'r motoi bhulbhal, amar mate.
Amar Telephone Bhaban'r example'tai dharo - bhadrolok habe bhabe
porishkar kore dilen je tar commute time'ta tar kajer madhye
included. Amake shuniye dilen, "Amar to ar apnader moto motor gaRi
nei, amake train'ei jatayat korte hai." [Eta keno amar phone
connection eto jaruri - she proshner uttor. Amar urgent ekti
phone pabar katha chhilo office theke.] Ekhon, e'i attitude'ta
kotha theke ashchhe? Amar dharona, unrelated porishram'ke ajuhat
hishebe byabohar kara originate kare unrelated, inconsequential
krichchhosadhan'ke exemplary hishbe grohan kara'r next step hishabe,
for the delinquent.
[Rohan Oberoi'r tomar bari'te ekta statement mone achhe? Paraphrased,
Civil disobedience shikhiye Gandhi desh'r baro'ta bajiye diye gechhen,
what was an excellent tool against foreign rulers ekhon lok'e nijer
govt.'r paschaddeshe dichchhe. Krichchhosadhan'tao, amar mone hoi,
thik o'i eki case. Jemon dharo Gandhi'r third class'e kore jatayat'ke
political stunt hishebe identify korte lok'r aneeha, jodiyo puro third
class reserve korte first class birth'r theke kharcha kam poRto.]
Porishram'ke ashwikar na koreo, kaaj'r shange unrelated porishram'r
je kono jog nei, thakte je pare na, either as a self-imposed
krikhkhosadhan or as an unavoidable one, shetai point kara'r chesta
korchhilam ar ki. Kaaj'r byapare, sheti exemplary'o noi, abar ulto'tao
noi, ekantoi neutral. Kaaj hochchhe kina shetai katha. Bhadralok'ke
bollam, Ta Kolkata'i thaken na keno? Uni bollen, amar ekta sangshar
nei? Ta achhe bate. Kaaj, probably, nei.
Tai Anindyababu'r lekha poRe Binoy C. sammondhe bhai holo, onaro eki
scene noi to? Onaro constituency ebang personal prefence for "simple,
principled life" nei to, e bhadrolok'r "sangshar"'r moto?
(Noi jene khub bhalo laglo.) Honestly, amar mone hoi BC'r
gaRite kore asha jaowa kara uchit, karan tate deputy-CM hishebe onar
productivity baRte paRe. And, that job is what he is being paid for by
the public. Tate onar personal preference'e lagte pare, kintu kaaj,
amar mate, personal preference'r opore. Ebang Binoybabu je really
kaaj'r lok tate amar antoto kono sandeho nei. Ar, onar productivity
baRa'r ja arthomulya, ta ekti gaRi ebang petrol'r theke anek beshi,
for the WB taxpayers.
Jai hok, uni to ebar ar nomination'i pan ni.
>Indranil.
Chaitali Basu
> Apratim.
Ami apnar o Anindya-r lekar kono line dhore uttor dichhi na karon apnara
je kotha bolechen tar shonge ami amkot je kaaj na kore principled life
lead korchir bharong-er kono maane nei. Apni jodi amar opor raag kore
thaken oi "Apni bodhhoe janen na .......daily passengari kore thake"
kothatate to ami maap chaichhi. Apnar nijer baaDi-te er experience thakle
taar cheye better bhabe er shubidhe ashubidhe jana aar karor shombhob
noye.. amar to noy definitely. Kintu oi apnar lekhata poDe kamon akta
bhul bojhar theke caustic comment kora hoechhe bole mone hoechhilo. Aar
Binoy Chowdhury shombondhe hoeto ektu durbalota-O kaaj korechilo. Jaihok
amar permission niye likhte hobe bolechhen....ato kharap kotha bolechilum
ami? Jodi bole thaki tobe etao bhul bujhechen mone kore neben. Amon kono
kotha bola uddyeshyo-I amar chilona. Aar principled thaka jamon essential
temni kaaj-er daam-O khoob-I essential. E niye nishchoi alochona korben.
Ato gurutyopurno akta bishoye amar permission-er jonno akte thakle ami-I
tate shobcheye du:khito habo.
Shubhechantey,
Chaitali
T.H.Sanyal.
(Apratim Sarkar) says:
> Proshno holo, kemon chalai? Amar baba Bardhoman'r ekti college'e
> attrish bachhar poRiye e-i gato bachhar retire korlen. Kolkata
> theke commute korten. Onar nijer kathatei, klanti eto beshi hoye
> paRe je quality of work khub suffer kare. Tai, finally uni Bardhoman'r
> ekti mess'ei thakten Kolkatai stree-putra rekhe diye. Saptahe
> ekbar kore jeten ashten. While his family (and much more importantly
> for him, his cultural) life sufferred, kaaj'r proti e'i nistha'ti'r
> janyo ami shrodhdhashil.
Ta apnar baba 38 bachharer madhye kato bachhar "commute" karlen ar kato
bachhar "mess"-e thaklen, seta ektu janaben? Indranil to khabar dichchhe
je uni kichhudin age paryanta "commute" karten. Sei kichhudinta katodin?
Ar eta bhebe dekhechhen ki, je anek chakurijibi'r pakshe ekta jaygay
stree-putra rekhe ar ekta jaygay "mess"-e thaka arthik dik diye sambhab
nao hate pare?
> Naki average'e 70 hour week kore kore ami bokhe gechhi? Tai habe.
Deshe anek kshetrei loke anek beshi asubidhar madhye kaj kare. Sei rakam
abasthay apni ki 70 ghanta kaj karte parten?
ths.
Sutapa Chattopadhyay
> attrish bachhar poRiye e-i gato bachhar retire korlen. Kolkata
> theke commute korten. Onar nijer kathatei, klanti eto beshi hoye
> paRe je quality of work khub suffer kare. Tai, finally uni Bardhoman'r
> ekti mess'ei thakten Kolkatai stree-putra rekhe diye. Saptahe
Actually, I can very much sympathize with your situation.
3-4 bochchor agey, Ashesh (amar better-half) er
chakri'r jhamela cholchilo. Tokhon o FDA tey ekta chakri peyechilo,
Gaithersburg, Maryland e. Amader badi tokhon Danbury, CT, e ebong
Gaithersburg e amar aar chakri holo na. Tokhon amader ja oboshtha
hoyechilo, amra seriously bhabhchilaam, Ashesh okhane apartment
e thakbe aar weekend e baDi aashbe. Kintu eta je ki koshter
sheta bhebe Ashesh nijer office e bojhapoDa kore niyechilo,
tarpor kichudin por Roche e chakri pelo. Ekhono, Ayan ke
eka ami manush korbo bhabhle (shashudi obossho aachen, but
she too needs help) bhoy kore. Amar aar ek bondhu, tar
husband IBM cheDe Mororola tey chole geche, Arizona'y.
O ekhane Westchester county tey 2-to chele niye eka aachey.
Single parenting is not fun, let me tell you.
Bardhomaan theke roj jara daily passengery kore
tader aar life bole kichui thake na mone hoy. Raat notay
baDi giye aar kaar saathe ki bolaar thake?
--
Sutapa Chattopadhyay.
Chaitali Basu
> In article <4jp3l4$n...@inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com>, asa...@us.oracle.com
> (Apratim Sarkar) says:
>
> > Proshno holo, kemon chalai? Amar baba Bardhoman'r ekti college'e
> > attrish bachhar poRiye e-i gato bachhar retire korlen. Kolkata
> > theke commute korten. Onar nijer kathatei, klanti eto beshi hoye
> > paRe je quality of work khub suffer kare. Tai, finally uni Bardhoman'r
> > ekti mess'ei thakten Kolkatai stree-putra rekhe diye. Saptahe
> > ekbar kore jeten ashten. While his family (and much more importantly
> > for him, his cultural) life sufferred, kaaj'r proti e'i nistha'ti'r
> > janyo ami shrodhdhashil.
>
> Ta apnar baba 38 bachharer madhye kato bachhar "commute" karlen ar kato
> bachhar "mess"-e thaklen, seta ektu janaben? Indranil to khabar dichchhe
> je uni kichhudin age paryanta "commute" karten. Sei kichhudinta katodin?
Thik "kato bachhar "commute" karlen ar kato bachhar "mess"-e thaklen" -er
hisheb na janleo bodhhoe point-ta clear je "klanti eto beshi hoye paRe je
quality of work khub suffer kare".
> Ar eta bhebe dekhechhen ki, je anek chakurijibi'r pakshe ekta jaygay
> stree-putra rekhe ar ekta jaygay "mess"-e thaka arthik dik diye sambhab
> nao hate pare?
Shei problem-tao jamon thik temni anek-er shujog thaka shotyeo kaaj-take
tato gurutyopurno bhaben na, shetao kintu shotti.
> ths.
Chaitali
T.H.Sanyal.
<chaitali@spcm4> says:
>On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, T.H.Sanyal. wrote:
>> In article <4jp3l4$n...@inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com>, asa...@us.oracle.com
>> (Apratim Sarkar) says:
>>
>> > for him, his cultural) life sufferred, kaaj'r proti e'i nistha'ti'r
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > janyo ami shrodhdhashil.
>>
>> Ta apnar baba 38 bachharer madhye kato bachhar "commute" karlen ar kato
>> bachhar "mess"-e thaklen, seta ektu janaben? Indranil to khabar dichchhe
>> je uni kichhudin age paryanta "commute" karten. Sei kichhudinta katodin?
>Thik "kato bachhar "commute" karlen ar kato bachhar "mess"-e thaklen" -er
>hisheb na janleo bodhhoe point-ta clear je "klanti eto beshi hoye paRe je
>quality of work khub suffer kare".
Hyan, oi "point"-ta khub-i parishkar. Aro parishkar ei janye je amar
kalkatar shahartalir "rail"-pathe nityajatrar abhijnata achhe. Ami ektu
koutuhali oi je kajer prati nishthar katha bala hoyechhe, tar ekta
parimangata mulyayan karte.
Dhare nichchhi je Apratim-er babar 1 bachhar legechhe
"klanti eto beshi..." eta bujhte. Tahale 38 bachhar theke 1 bachhar bad
dilam, railo 37 bachhar. Ebar uni jadi 3 bachhar "mess"-e theke thaken
o 34 bachhar nityajatra kare thaken, tahale onar "kajer prati nishtha"-r
pariman danray 10%-ero kam.
Prashna uthbe, ami hathat Apratim-er babake niye parlam, eta thik nay.
Sekshetre Apratrim-ero uchit nay prachar kara je shudhu o ebang or
babar-i kajer prati nishtha achhe, ebang Medinipur theke asa Telephone
Engineer-er nei.
>> Ar eta bhebe dekhechhen ki, je anek chakurijibi'r pakshe ekta jaygay
>> stree-putra rekhe ar ekta jaygay "mess"-e thaka arthik dik diye sambhab
>> nao hate pare?
>Shei problem-tao jamon thik temni anek-er shujog thaka shotyeo kaaj-take
>tato gurutyopurno bhaben na, shetao kintu shotti.
Manchhi apnar katha, tabe amar mate kaje phanki deyoar prabritti sab
desher loker madhyei dekha jay, eta shudhu Kalkata-r (bampanthi?)
Bangali-der madhye-i achhe, erakam dharana bhul.
ths.
Apratim Sarkar
>In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.960403102210.13675D-100000@spcm4>, Chaitali Basu
><chaitali@spcm4> says:
>
>>On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, T.H.Sanyal. wrote:
>
>>> In article <4jp3l4$n...@inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com>, asa...@us.oracle.com
>>> (Apratim Sarkar) says:
>>>
>>> > for him, his cultural) life sufferred, kaaj'r proti e'i nistha'ti'r
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> > janyo ami shrodhdhashil.
>>>
>>> Ta apnar baba 38 bachharer madhye kato bachhar "commute" karlen ar kato
>>> bachhar "mess"-e thaklen, seta ektu janaben? Indranil to khabar dichchhe
>>> je uni kichhudin age paryanta "commute" karten. Sei kichhudinta katodin?
T.H.babu, T.H.babu, T.H.babu!! Apnar ager post'ta amar server'e
asheni. Eta peye baro anondo pelam. Exact date paini (baba bhule
gechhe), tabe approx. korle ota holo deR mash commute ar sNatirish
bachhar shRare dash mash Bardhoman'e thaka.
Indranil bhul likhechhe. O Bardhoma'e jatayat'takei commute dhorechhe.
Saptahe ekbar je jaowa asha'ta, Shombar-Shonibar, shetakei.
>>Thik "kato bachhar "commute" karlen ar kato bachhar "mess"-e thaklen" -er
>>hisheb na janleo bodhhoe point-ta clear je "klanti eto beshi hoye paRe je
>>quality of work khub suffer kare".
>
>Hyan, oi "point"-ta khub-i parishkar. Aro parishkar ei janye je amar
>kalkatar shahartalir "rail"-pathe nityajatrar abhijnata achhe. Ami ektu
>koutuhali oi je kajer prati nishthar katha bala hoyechhe, tar ekta
>parimangata mulyayan karte.
>
>Dhare nichchhi je Apratim-er babar 1 bachhar legechhe
>"klanti eto beshi..." eta bujhte. Tahale 38 bachhar theke 1 bachhar bad
>dilam, railo 37 bachhar. Ebar uni jadi 3 bachhar "mess"-e theke thaken
>o 34 bachhar nityajatra kare thaken, tahale onar "kajer prati nishtha"-r
>pariman danray 10%-ero kam.
Ebare hisheb'ta korun? Dekhun ebare jodi hisheb'ta na koren tabe
kintu sheta lyaj gutiye paliye jaowar moto habe. Apnake amar o'i
ek bhai. Ami net'e kichhu likhle emnite to followup korben na,
kintu ami ar post korbo na e'i guppi marlei omni taratari chhute
eshe post korben.
Amar sandeho, ebareo apni data peye chepe jaben.
BTW, independent shakkhi chai? Bardhoman'r Shyamshundar College'r
je kono ex-chhatro'ke jigesh korte paren Alok Sarkar'r katha.
Direction chaile diye dite pari. Baba'r prochur ex-chhatro,
first-generation shikkhito, o'i elaka'r bashinda ekhono. Okhan
theke ekta little magazine'o bar karen. Thikana chaile, jodi chithi
likhte chan ar ki, tao dite pari.
>Prashna uthbe, ami hathat Apratim-er babake niye parlam, eta thik nay.
>Sekshetre Apratrim-ero uchit nay prachar kara je shudhu o ebang or
>babar-i kajer prati nishtha achhe, ebang Medinipur theke asa Telephone
>Engineer-er nei.
Ami antoto shei proshno tulbo na. Futo rang jakhan nichchhi na,
takhan problem'ta kothai?
>>> Ar eta bhebe dekhechhen ki, je anek chakurijibi'r pakshe ekta jaygay
>>> stree-putra rekhe ar ekta jaygay "mess"-e thaka arthik dik diye sambhab
>>> nao hate pare?
Tahole ekmatro alternative ki kaaj'e fNaaki deowa? Ami kayekta
alternative suggest kori (je gulo shab ami nije korechhi, tai futo
gyan noi):
1. Shwami-stree dujone du jaigai chakri kara at the cost of family
life - kintu kaaj'r proti nishtha rekhe.
2. Ekjon chakri na koreo ekshange thaka, jate onnojon'r chakri'ta
suffer na kore (aha bou'r rojgare khete ki araam - anyway amar she
din bheshe gyachhe chole ...), paisa'r tanatani abashyo jai.
3. Ek jaigai anek kharap chakri peleo chole asha, tarpar mon diye
dujonei chakri'ta kara, with modarate financial problem.
Jodi balen dujoner chakri kara'r aboshtha nei, jogyota nei, tabe
agekar diner Bangali'ra ja korten tai korte habe ar ki. Kolkata'i
bari bhaRa, bou desher gram'e. Bibhutibhushan korechhen. Amar
thakurda'o.
Tabe manchhi, kaaj'e fNaaki deowa'ta khub sahaj solution.
>>Shei problem-tao jamon thik temni anek-er shujog thaka shotyeo kaaj-take
>>tato gurutyopurno bhaben na, shetao kintu shotti.
>
>Manchhi apnar katha, tabe amar mate kaje phanki deyoar prabritti sab
>desher loker madhyei dekha jay, eta shudhu Kalkata-r (bampanthi?)
>Bangali-der madhye-i achhe, erakam dharana bhul.
Completely agreed. Problem'ta holo amader desher labor regulation
emoni, je lokjon'ke fire kara bejai hyapa. Ota holei, dekhben, ar
kono problem thakbe na. Bampantha niye kintu ami ekdam kichhu bolini.
Even in general Kolkata'r Bangali'der niyeo noi. Apni gaye poRe
nichchhen keno bolun to? Apni kaaj'e fNaaki diten naki deshe thakte?
>ths.
Apratim.
--
Ghash parjanta durbodhya; mati Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are
rahashyamaya! are my own and shouldn't be construed in
Etota rahashya bhalo noi. any way to represent that of my employer.
- Amiyo Chakrabarty.
Shubu Mukherjee
>>>>> In article <96100.19...@psuvm.psu.edu>, T.H.Sanyal. <TH...@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
THS> Dhare nichchhi je Apratim-er babar 1 bachhar legechhe
THS> "klanti eto beshi..." eta bujhte. Tahale 38 bachhar theke 1 bachhar bad
THS> dilam, railo 37 bachhar. Ebar uni jadi 3 bachhar "mess"-e theke thaken
THS> o 34 bachhar nityajatra kare thaken, tahale onar "kajer prati nishtha"-r
THS> pariman danray 10%-ero kam.
TH-babu apni onk-e zero! :-)
Onko-ta khub-i shohoj. Boyosh jokhon kom, juddho korar shokti tokhon
beshi thak-e ebong klanti kom ash-e. Boyosh jokhon ponchasher upor-e
tokhon train-journey-te klanto hoy-e pora-ta shabhabik.
-Shubu
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Shubu Mukherjee Univeristy of Wisconsin-Madison, Computer Sciences
Chaitali Basu
> Prashna uthbe, ami hathat Apratim-er babake niye parlam, eta thik nay.
> Sekshetre Apratrim-ero uchit nay prachar kara je shudhu o ebang or
> babar-i kajer prati nishtha achhe, ebang Medinipur theke asa Telephone
> Engineer-er nei.
Dekhun ami jatota bujhechilum tate Apratim thik ei kothata bodhhoe
prochar korchillen na "je shudhu o ebang or babar-i kajer prati nishtha
achhe". Ota amar "Apni bodhhoe janen na...." kothatar poripekhyite
deowa khabor, je uni janen.
Telephone akta dorkari service. Taar akjon engineer, she je
karonei deri hok na kano (dhore nichhi karon-ta khoob-I gurotyopurno)
eshe jodi amon bhaan koren je apni telephone-ta aaj-I chayite eshe anyani
korechhen, tahole birokto lagte badhyo. Kaaj-ta kore deowa taar dayityo.
Na korte parle sheta bolte hobe shei bhabe. Nijer dayityo eDiye onner
opor chokh ranganor ki khoob akta jukti achhe?
> >> Ar eta bhebe dekhechhen ki, je anek chakurijibi'r pakshe ekta jaygay
> >> stree-putra rekhe ar ekta jaygay "mess"-e thaka arthik dik diye sambhab
> >> nao hate pare?
>
> >Shei problem-tao jamon thik temni anek-er shujog thaka shotyeo kaaj-take
> >tato gurutyopurno bhaben na, shetao kintu shotti.
>
> Manchhi apnar katha, tabe amar mate kaje phanki deyoar prabritti sab
> desher loker madhyei dekha jay, eta shudhu Kalkata-r (bampanthi?)
> Bangali-der madhye-i achhe, erakam dharana bhul.
Thik kotha je "kaje phanki deyoar prabritti sab desher loker madhyei
dekha jay". Kintu eta ki apni manben je "Kalkata-r govn. office-er
lokder madhye" eta ektu beshi achhe? Bideshe ami antoto ei probonota-ta
kom dekhchi.
> ths.
Chaitali
Chaitali Basu
> Tahole ekmatro alternative ki kaaj'e fNaaki deowa? Ami kayekta
> alternative suggest kori (je gulo shab ami nije korechhi, tai futo
> gyan noi):
>
> 1. Shwami-stree dujone du jaigai chakri kara at the cost of family
> life - kintu kaaj'r proti nishtha rekhe.
> 2. Ekjon chakri na koreo ekshange thaka, jate onnojon'r chakri'ta
> suffer na kore (aha bou'r rojgare khete ki araam - anyway amar she
> din bheshe gyachhe chole ...), paisa'r tanatani abashyo jai.
> 3. Ek jaigai anek kharap chakri peleo chole asha, tarpar mon diye
> dujonei chakri'ta kara, with modarate financial problem.
>
> Jodi balen dujoner chakri kara'r aboshtha nei, jogyota nei, tabe
> agekar diner Bangali'ra ja korten tai korte habe ar ki. Kolkata'i
> bari bhaRa, bou desher gram'e. Bibhutibhushan korechhen. Amar
> thakurda'o.
>
> Tabe manchhi, kaaj'e fNaaki deowa'ta khub sahaj solution.
Eishob alternative-er paro problem hoye. Ami akjon WBCS-er agricultural
section-er officer-ke jaani. Anek jaegaye ghure ghure Kolkataye posting
niye ashen. Chele meyera school-e bhorti hoye. Besh bachor pNachek baaDe
jakhon tara shob middle ba high school-e poDchhe takhon tini abar bodli
hon Krishnanagar. Ebar prothome tini mess-e thakte shuru koren okhane.
Kintu tin chele meye shamle, bridhyo Ma-baba-r dekhashona kore tNar stri
kichhutei pere uTchilen na. Takhon badhyo hon daily commute korte. Ei
overstrain-e bhadrolok-er heart attack hoye o takhon consideration kore
tNar department tNake abar Kolkataye bodli kore. BTW, initially tini
promotional transfer refuse korechilen ei problem arise korte paare
bhebe. Kintu takhon department raaji hoyeni.
Eer akta alternative solution parle deben?
> Apratim.
Chaitali
Sandeep Kumar Shukla
Chaitali Basu <chaitali@spcm4> wrote:
>On 10 Apr 1996, Apratim Sarkar wrote:
>
>> alternative suggest kori (je gulo shab ami nije korechhi, tai futo
>> gyan noi):
>>
>> 1. Shwami-stree dujone du jaigai chakri kara at the cost of family
>> life - kintu kaaj'r proti nishtha rekhe.
>> 2. Ekjon chakri na koreo ekshange thaka, jate onnojon'r chakri'ta
>> suffer na kore (aha bou'r rojgare khete ki araam - anyway amar she
>> din bheshe gyachhe chole ...), paisa'r tanatani abashyo jai.
>> 3. Ek jaigai anek kharap chakri peleo chole asha, tarpar mon diye
>> dujonei chakri'ta kara, with modarate financial problem.
>>
>> Jodi balen dujoner chakri kara'r aboshtha nei, jogyota nei, tabe
>> agekar diner Bangali'ra ja korten tai korte habe ar ki. Kolkata'i
>> bari bhaRa, bou desher gram'e. Bibhutibhushan korechhen. Amar
>> thakurda'o.
>>
>> Tabe manchhi, kaaj'e fNaaki deowa'ta khub sahaj solution.
>
>section-er officer-ke jaani. Anek jaegaye ghure ghure Kolkataye posting
>niye ashen. Chele meyera school-e bhorti hoye. Besh bachor pNachek baaDe
>jakhon tara shob middle ba high school-e poDchhe takhon tini abar bodli
>hon Krishnanagar. Ebar prothome tini mess-e thakte shuru koren okhane.
>Kintu tin chele meye shamle, bridhyo Ma-baba-r dekhashona kore tNar stri
>kichhutei pere uTchilen na. Takhon badhyo hon daily commute korte. Ei
>overstrain-e bhadrolok-er heart attack hoye o takhon consideration kore
>tNar department tNake abar Kolkataye bodli kore. BTW, initially tini
>promotional transfer refuse korechilen ei problem arise korte paare
>bhebe. Kintu takhon department raaji hoyeni.
>
>Eer akta alternative solution parle deben?
>
>> Apratim.
>
>Chaitali
Biye karaar darkar ta ki? Na korlei to hay, kono jhamela thake na.
Rajiv